[00:00] <ChaiTRex> miceiken: Advanced options, I mean.
[00:09] <WoC> is there an easy way of injecting a package as installed, without actually installing it ?
[00:09] <tgm4883> WoC: why?
[00:11] <WoC> libgles1 & nvidia-340 have conflicting files and i need to inject libgles1 as installed
[00:11] <WoC> and i cant remove nvidia-340
[00:11] <WoC> that would have me with no gfx driver
[00:12] <WoC> And nouv* is useless for me
[00:16] <WoC> suggestions tgm4883 ?
[00:18] <tgm4883> WoC: Still not clear what you're after here. Do you need libgles1 to show as installed because it's the dependency for something else or do you need the files that are in libgles1 actually installed even though some are in nvidia-340
[00:19] <WoC> yup, deps
[00:20] <WoC> so it seems i either fake an installed libgles1, or switch to a different distro
[00:20] <tgm4883> WoC: looks like you might be able to use a command like this    sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install --reinstall <packagename>
[00:21] <WoC> k, ty trying
[00:21] <tgm4883> which I would think would overwrite the files in nvidia-340 with the ones in libgles1, but I suppose this could break things
[00:22] <agile_prg> hi all, I heard there is a place that will give me a temporary server to log into, do you know if that exists?
[00:22] <tgm4883> agile_prg: AWS?
[00:23] <agile_prg> I guess so, not sure
[00:23] <tgm4883> agile_prg: well AWS does have servers that you could spin up and log into, and there's a free tier if you haven't used them before
[00:24] <agile_prg> hmm... ok
[00:25] <FortKnight> amazon aws free option is still "metered" so depending on the intended application you might still get a bill
[00:25] <WoC> ty tgm4883 looks like working with the same for nvidia-340 after, so it still have the right files
[00:25] <FortKnight> good luck
[00:26] <tgm4883> WoC: cool, glad that worked for yo
[00:26] <agile_prg> I am ubuntu hell, I try to do apt-get install and it says things like:  The following packages have unmet dependencies: but is not going to be installed
[00:26] <WoC> \/\/underbar ;]
[00:27] <WoC> agile_prg, i guess you too have nvidia gfx?
[00:27] <tgm4883> agile_prg: you should start with how you got in this situation
[00:28] <leftyfb> agile_prg: and the version of ubuntu you're runnin
[00:28] <leftyfb> g
[00:30] <agile_prg> ok
[00:35] <leftyfb> agile_prg: sooooo... did you actually want help?
[00:37] <agile_prg> sorry got interrupted, here I go, forgive me
[00:47] <agile_prg> ubuntu wily 15.10
[00:48] <agile_prg> I think I added a repository, tried to install something and it messed up all the dependencies
[00:49] <Bashing-om> !16.10 | agile_prg
[00:49] <agile_prg> https://pastebin.com/ApVvdpVv
[00:49] <agile_prg> that is the pastbin of what I am seeing
[00:50] <agile_prg> well I am open to suggestions on how to proceed
[00:51] <mouses> agile_prg: that's a weird log
[00:51] <Bashing-om> agile_prg: post ' lsb_release -a ' output .
[00:52] <ducasse> !eolupgrade | agile_prg first read this, as wily is long since dead
[00:54] <leftyfb> agile_prg: install 18.04 and restore from backup. That is your best option and probably the only one you're going to get any help with here.
[00:54] <agile_prg> here is what lsb_release -a https://pastebin.com/arKyFTaT
[00:54] <agile_prg> restore from a backup to where exactly?
[00:55] <leftyfb> agile_prg: install 18.04. Then copy your files back from the backup you have or are planning to make
[00:56] <leftyfb> agile_prg: if you don't have any backups, then your data isn't important, so that makes things a bit simpler. Just install Ubuntu 18.04 and you'll be good to go.
[00:56] <leftyfb> agile_prg: good luck
[01:02] <agile_prg> I wish I could install it without deleting everything :<
[01:03] <leftyfb> agile_prg: you could, but it'll be a lot easier to just restore from backup
[01:04] <agile_prg> well ok
[01:28] <gorginator> You should change the topic into 'restore from backup'
[01:38] <leftyfb> gorginator: Are you suggesting that people should not keep backups?
[01:38] <gorginator> not at all
[01:39] <gorginator> restoring from backup is still a pain in the a* when you have to reinstall all kind of programs
[01:40] <gorginator> 'just restore from backup' isn't always so easy
[01:40] <gorginator> even if you have a backup of the files
[01:40] <leftyfb> gorginator: agile_prg is running a version which went out of support 3 years ago. To do an in-place upgrade across 5 versions of ubuntu will take hours upon hours and leave you in a very unstable state.
[01:40] <leftyfb> gorginator: copying a /home directory and running apt-get on a handful of package names is pretty easy
[01:41] <gorginator> sure if you only have to run apt-get
[01:41] <gorginator> (you also gave me the advise to restore from backup)
[01:42] <leftyfb> gorginator: there's a reason why we only support installing applications via apt or snap. Anything else is obviously going to take longer and more complicated since it's usually compiling from source.
[01:42] <leftyfb> gorginator: right, because you were running an unsupported version of ubuntu
[01:43] <leftyfb> gorginator: there are ways to do fresh installs over old installations and still keep your files. But it'll be a lot quicker and cleaner to just install from scratch and restore.
[01:44] <gorginator> if you have a backup, files aren't the issue, it's the programs
[01:44] <gorginator> and system settings
[01:45] <leftyfb> gorginator: again, sudo apt install <package1> <package2> <package3> <and so on>
[01:45] <leftyfb> gorginator: settings are stored in your home directory
[01:45] <gorginator> also like mime settings?
[01:46] <leftyfb> gorginator: if you're doing more advanced settings such as in /etc, then just make a backup of /etc as well. I use my laptop more than most and my /etc is 30MB. It'll take under a minute to back it up.
[01:50] <leftyfb> though I do not suggest just copying that backup directly back to /etc. It's meant for reference to reconfigure any files you need to modify.
[02:07] <Galactor_> Hello! can anyone recommend a set of earbuds/very light weight headphones that are bluetooth, microphone, and work well with lubuntu?
[02:07] <BloopMonsterOMG>  #javascript
[02:09] <leftyfb> Galactor_: any of them should work with ubuntu. If you want recommendations on hardware try #hardware
[02:17] <Sven_vB> does anyone happen to have a bionic or trusty or xenial live session running atm and could copy the "ubuntu" user line from /etc/passwd for me?
[02:19] <Sven_vB> gorginator, user-specific MIME settings are in ~/.local/share/mime/ usually
[02:20] <leftyfb> Sven_vB: You could boot a live session using a virtual machine
[02:21] <Sven_vB> Galactor_, I can recommend using separate bluetooth audio receivers where you plug in your traditional earphones. that way you can keep them in your ear when you change the low-battery receiver for the one you've just recharged. ;)
[02:22] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, that's my fallback plan. :)
[02:23] <FortKnight> fallback
[02:24] <gorginator> Sven_vB: ubuntu:x:999:999:Live session user,,,:/home/ubuntu:/bin/bash
[02:24] <Sven_vB> gorginator, thanks!
[02:48] <Netwolf> does anyone here use brotli
[02:53] <leftyfb> Netwolf: are you taking a survey?
[02:54] <Netwolf> leftyfb: maybe. Just asking if anyone has it enabled. I just did and was looking for anyone else that uses it
[02:55] <leftyfb> Netwolf: This is a support channel. If you have a support question, please detail the issue you are having. Otherwise, conduct surveys or general discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:55] <Netwolf> ah sorry
[03:10] <vegombrei> hi, ive got an external drive, what partition should i
[03:10] <vegombrei>                    format it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk
[03:10] <vegombrei>                    manager software?
[03:11] <vegombrei> hi, ive got an external drive, what partition should i
[03:11] <vegombrei>                    format it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk
[03:11] <vegombrei>                    manager software?
[03:16] <vegombrei> ive got an external drive, what partition should iformat it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk manager software?
[03:17] <krytarik> !patience | vegombrei
[03:24] <vegombrei> !eatme | krytarik
[03:37] <hggdh> vegombrei: please don't. We do follow a code of conduct here.
[03:46] <okovko> i'm configuring postfix incorrectly and i'm not sure where to get started debugging it. i don't have any meaningful output when i send myself an email; it just doesn't go through. how can i probe what it's actually doing?
[04:27] <midnightmagic> I'm recompiling a kernel. Is there some easy method of appending a CONFIG_LOCALVERSION to my custom kernel using debian/rules makefile that I'm just completely missing? manually editing config.common* just results in a broken build.
[04:30] <midnightmagic> oh. nvm. Found just the right wiki page.
[05:35] <rz1a> I’m running Ubuntu 16.04 and when at the login screen it’s different now, it says Ubuntu14 and the login prompt also changed. Any idea how to change this?
[05:42] <EriC^^> !ping
[06:05] <guiverc> rz1a, the login or greeter screen is dictated by display manager usually (lightdm, gdm3 etc), some allow you to change backgrounds, display text - so it could be consequence of a change to your config at some time;  `lightdm` is default of 16.04 with `unity-greeter` - and this may help changing the text/login-greeter config (if it's that) https://askubuntu.com/questions/797845/how-do-i-change-the-login-screen-in-ubuntu-16
[06:05] <guiverc> -04
[06:20] <ZaZaQR> https://preview.ibb.co/b4LQSU/Screenshot_from_2018_09_22_22_56_15.png
[06:20] <ZaZaQR> how do i delete the file icon and the 0ad icon in activities?
[06:22] <ZaZaQR> i can't right click and remove as favorites
[06:24] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: thats something you installed thats not going away?
[06:24] <ZaZaQR> yup
[06:24] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: can you recall the packagename?
[06:25] <ZaZaQR> 0ad
[06:25] <ZaZaQR> on snap
[06:25] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: did you try to remove the snap from terminal?
[06:25] <ZaZaQR> i believe so
[06:27] <acresearch> people is ubuntu a rolling release?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: sudo snap remove 0ad
[06:27] <ZaZaQR> snap "0ad" is not installed
[06:28] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: did you already remove it?
[06:28] <ZaZaQR> ye
[06:28] <ZaZaQR> yes
[06:29] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: did you reboot after remove yet?
[06:29] <ZaZaQR> no i did not
[06:29] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: can you try? perhaps its still in memory
[06:29] <lotuspsychje_> acresearch: no
[06:30] <lotuspsychje_> !updates | acresearch
[06:30] <lotuspsychje_> !upgrade | acresearch
[06:31] <ZaZaQR> so the file icon is gone on the buttom.
[06:32] <lotuspsychje_> !yay | ZaZaQR
[06:32] <ZaZaQR> but i can't remove the big icon
[06:32] <pi0> how do i check how much disk space is partitioned for /home
[06:32] <ZaZaQR> in the show applications button
[06:32] <zfer> on 18.04 LTS where is the log of suspend/hibernate ?
[06:32] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: still there?
[06:32] <ZaZaQR> yes
[06:33] <acresearch> lotuspsychje_: because i read on distro watch that snapshot cosmic is a rolling release (not sure what snapshot cosmic is)
[06:33] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: did you install from gnome software or terminal snap?
[06:33] <ZaZaQR> terminal snap
[06:33] <lotuspsychje_> ZaZaQR: ok not sure then, maybe try a system cleanup with bleachbit, it still got leftovers?
[06:34] <guiverc> acresearch, Ubuntu releases are not rolling; releases come out every six months (april & october)  with one a LTS or long-term-support once every two years
[06:35] <ZaZaQR> egh
[06:36] <acresearch> guiverc: ok
[06:37] <humblewolf> I'm unable to ping a machine(A) from one specific machine(B), both are ubuntu machines , how to debug ??? A is accessible from any machine except B, B can access any machine except A. it all happened after doing 'docker-machine create' , afaik it does some network changes ....
[06:42] <wendico> Hello everybody, i am trying to install ubuntu on a disk that allready have 4 used primary partitions. Is it posible to convert the last partition as logical? or i must back up data, delete and create new logical? Thank you all.
[06:44] <guiverc> wendico, you can't convert a primary to extended (without re-creating it & loosing data) to my knowledge...  gpt (guid partition table) however allows >4 [primary] partitions
[06:47] <wendico> guiverc: how can i check if posible on gparted if i have or not a guid partition table? Im on gparted on the affected machine. Thank you very much.
[06:48] <wendico> Device information says: Partition Table: msdos
[06:49] <guiverc> wendico, you don't have gpt given it said 'msdos' :(  so 4 is your 'max'
[06:50] <wendico> may i convert that msdos to gpt? all my file systems on the partitions are ext2, swap and ext4, im not using dos or windows
[06:51] <wendico> so i could then shrink the 4th partition and create more
[06:53] <guiverc> msdos in that case does not have a relationship to msdos/windows, just the partition table compatible with old msdos/windows -- you'd have to create a gpt partition-table which would destroy the mbr/msdos/partition-table wiping your data - i'm not aware of any means to 'convert'
[06:55] <wendico> Thank you very much so, if not planned to use dos or windows, would you recommend to back up my partitions, wipe disk and create a new gpt partition table? im going to need only ext2, swap, ext3 and ext4 file systems.
[07:01] <guiverc> wendico, your choice; backup always a good idea!! so first step regardless of what you do is backup.  you could delete only what you need to create the required space, then re-create as extended as originally asked allowing an extra one; or re-do them all - whatever best fits your needs
[07:06] <wendico> guiverc, thank you very much, full back up in progress. is there more advantages than having more than 4 primary partitions on a gpt partition table? so i can decide if start over or just delete my 4th primary partitions? Thank you in advance
[07:07] <wendico> could you point me to a link where i can learn easy about gpt partitions tables. I am planning to install androidx86 on that machine (never dos or windows) so i want to make sure what partition table i should use that it is compatible with android
[07:07] <guiverc> i can't think of any (advantages for >4 partitions);  i think of gpt's advantage as >2tb primarily
[07:08] <wendico> guiverc: thank you very much, then you just solved my problem and i took decision, my disk is very small hehe.
[07:09] <wendico> so im going for the easy fast option of just delete 4th partition and make extended leaving msdos partition table. Thank you very much again
[07:10] <guiverc> i'm not aware of any good/great howto/wiki/guides on partitioning (esp. gtp) sorry
[07:11] <wendico> guiverc, dont worry more, since my disk is very small, i will just keep my msdos partition table
[07:12] <guiverc> wendico, take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gdisk#Convert_between_MBR_and_GPT -- it mentions converting mbr to gpt !!  (gdisk, sgdisk... but I've not used them)
[07:12] <wendico> guiverc, and thank you very much anyways
[07:12] <wendico> guiverc, i take a look while back up ends, i always want to know more
[07:12] <guiverc> you're most weltall wendico   (i'd stick with mbr too; sticking with what I know..)
[07:14] <wendico> new question (while backing up) im trying to make a bootable usb with more than one iso, i tryed to install unetbootin on my ubuntu 18 machine but somehow that app does not work on my machine. Do you know any other app for my ubuntu 18 to make multi boot usb? thank you very much
[07:15] <guiverc> not me sorry; maybe someone else will know wendico
[07:16] <wendico> guiverc, ^^^ ty, dont worry, ill wait for anybody else that have an answer.
[07:16] <ducasse> wendico: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[07:16] <wendico> ducasse, ^^^ thank you very much
[07:17] <ducasse> wendico: you're most welcome
[07:17] <ducasse> wendico: i can't comment on that tool as i've never used it, but i've seen people recommending it here
[07:20] <wendico> Thank you very much, im on it
[07:21] <wendico> i used unetbootin years ago and worked very good, but trying that script asap
[07:21] <wendico> i dont want to bother trying to fix unetbootin
[07:22] <wendico> the advantage of unetbootin is that it has a large list of distros that can be selected, downloaded and installed from within the app
[07:23] <wendico> but i really dont care now, so im trying pendrivelinux.
[07:34] <ducasse> wendico: let us know if it doesn't work, so we can look for something else
[07:36] <wendico> ill let you know asap for sure, the script allready on my desktop but im downloading iso files and making breakfast for my kids
[07:38] <ducasse> priorities :)
[07:38] <wendico> downloading will be slow, so i wont be able to let you know soon, maybe half an hour or so, im on the mountain and have only 3g connection
[07:38] <ducasse> ask lotuspsychje_ if you run into problems, he was the one who told me about it
[07:42] <okovko> how do i set up my ubuntu vm to have a static public ip?
[07:42] <TaZeR> ubuntu the holy grail...
[07:42] <okovko> i know i need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and it has something to do with my vm8 adapter on my host machine
[07:42] <okovko> but i'm confused about the details
[07:43] <TaZeR> which hypervisor are u using? there should be a setting to make it bridged instead of nat
[07:45] <okovko> TaZeR vmware player. will making it bridged let me ping it from outside my network?
[07:45] <TaZeR> it should just be seen like another pc on the network and get a dhcp ip, so yes
[07:46] <okovko> TaZeR my host machine has a dynamic ip i think, would that mean a bridged guest machine will have a dynamic ip as well?
[07:46] <ducasse> okovko: which ubuntu version is this?
[07:46] <okovko> ducasse ubuntu 18.04
[07:46] <okovko> host is win10
[07:46] <ducasse> okovko: then use netplan instead of the interfaces file
[07:46] <ducasse> !netplan
[07:47] <TaZeR> yea just make sure firewall is configured properly if ur running one, and use something like a free dyndns service
[07:47] <TaZeR> i have cron just automatically run a script later that updates my machine if my ip changes
[07:48] <TaZeR> https://freedns.afraid.org/ is the one i use
[07:49] <okovko> i grabbed a domain name from godaddy and i'm using cloudfare for the nameservers, i want to point it to my vm running on my win10 machine. i'm not sure where the dyndns service comes in if i'm doing that
[07:50] <okovko> isn't freedns.afraid.org similar to godaddy for grabbing name.afraid.org domain names? is the dyndns service another service that they offer?
[07:54] <okovko> TaZeR i disconnected there for a sec, if you've still got a second to help out :P  i'm just trying to figure this stuff out for the first time
[08:02] <broyles> Question, (done some googling but might not be using the right terms), when I am switching consoles, from X to the terminal it looks like gnome is auto suspending my session, stopping music and anything running (not sure on that bit tho), I have disabled lock screen and power saving, but its still doing it, any ideas how to stop it at all?
[08:18] <okovko> TaZeR thanks for sending me in the right direction, i'm setting up dyndns through cloudfare
[08:22] <guiverc> broyles, if I switch from my gui session to an unused terminal (ctrl+alt+f5 say), my music stops, but if i login at the text terminal as me, my music continues...  (i know nothing more though sorry)
[08:23] <broyles> guiverc, ty :) going to have a dig around tho its something thats got my interest now :)
[08:44] <greenEarth> Do you know how to encapsulate amule in a virtual machine or in a firewall to protect the host computer?
[09:33] <wendico> greenEarth: you just answered your question in your own words. Install the virtual machine, add a network interface not connected to the host, disable any sharing to the host then install your system and amule on the virtual machine
[09:38] <enzotib> lenny_lemon: paste the file
[09:39] <enzotib> sorry, I was reading an old message, forget me, please
[09:45] <mouses> enzotib: happens to the best of us <3
[09:45] <wendico> im using instructions of this recommended link https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ but i cant run in terminal on terminal as showed on the pictures, i dont get the pop up window to run in terminal
[09:45] <wendico> what is the command so i can run that script straight from terminal?
[09:47] <wendico> so my question is, from terminal, how can i run the sh script to install the program on my ubuntu? thank you
[09:51] <Kristhian> I am having a problem connecting to my vps "ssh_excange_identification" connection closed by remote host
[09:51] <Kristhian> What should i do?
[09:51] <Kristhian> Please help
[09:55] <Kristhian> Problem happpened when i enable ufw
[09:55] <Kristhian> I installed nginx
[09:55] <Kristhian> Ubuntu 18.04x64
[09:57] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: i have joined lately , could you please mention your issue once more
[09:59] <Kristhian> Im not able to connect to my vps "ssh_exchange_identification" connection closed by remote host - this happened after enabling ufw
[10:00] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: ok , do you have any access to your vps provider control panel, and can you name your provider
[10:02] <Kristhian> Yes i have access to control panel and provider is vultr
[10:02] <nisankhindia_> Kristhain: remember UFW’s defaults are to deny all incoming connections and allow all outgoing connections. This means anyone trying to reach your cloud server would not be able to connect, while any application within the server would be able to reach the outside world.
[10:03] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: you have to go through your VPS web control panel now , use web login to your VPS , than allow port 22 using UFW
[10:04] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: name of your provider so that i have give you any further hint how to do so
[10:05] <Kristhian> Ok, ill take note of that
[10:05] <okovko> does anyone here have experience setting up a public ip for ubuntu running in vmware?
[10:05] <Kristhian> Provider name is vultr
[10:05] <okovko> i bridged the connection so my guest os is in my private network, and now i need it to be accessible from the internet
[10:05] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: wait for a while
[10:07] <Kristhian> Ok
[10:07] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: snapshot resetting can do the thing , but better go through web access give the root credetials and than configure UFW to allow port 22 as well as any other available services ( e.g http port 80 etc etc )
[10:08] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian: in future before commiting anything to servers read the basics about setting things from here https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_18.04 , this is just a note keeping portal regarding server basic works
[10:09] <toddc> ssh should be port 22 by default
[10:09] <Kristhian> Thanks nisankhindia_, ill just do this in a computer
[10:09] <Kristhian> Im using my mobile  phone atm
[10:10] <Kristhian> I can access console but couldnt type anything
[10:11] <nisankhindia_> Kristhian : have a PC .. for now take these notes as guide
[10:11] <Kristhian> Thanks again
[10:15] <nisankhindia_> okovko: set your network to bridged . Then set port forwarding in your router to send server traffic to the guest.  If you don't have a router you can probably configure this using NAT
[10:17] <okovko> nisankhindia_ i want to host a server on my workstation laptop, so i want this to be independent of my router. i already set up dynamic dns, how i'm trying to figure out how i can get a public IP for my guest OS
[10:17] <okovko> now* i'm trying to figure out
[10:18] <nisankhindia_> okovko: Bridged mode means the VMware guest is an autonomous networked device on the LAN. Meaning it can be handled like any other (physical) networked device
[10:19] <wendico> https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ does not work on fresh and updated ubuntu 18.04.1. The scrip just gives "Error xterm". Any clue?
[10:20] <gpunk> do xhost + in your terminal as your own user
[10:20] <gpunk> unless xterm is not installed
[10:22] <okovko> nisankhindia_ thanks for your help
[10:24] <wendico> gpunk.^^^ Done with echo "access control disabled...." Same error running  pendrivelinux sh "Error: xterm"
[10:24] <gpunk> is xterm installed?
[10:24] <wendico> xterm not installed, just doing it
[10:24] <wendico> ty
[10:24] <gpunk> :)
[10:25] <wendico> gpunk: awesome script running. ty.
[10:25] <gpunk> wlc
[10:57] <Apachez> any of you who have experienced that when using ubuntu netinstall it takes 5 seconds per file download attempt so it takes very long to complete the installation?
[10:59] <wendico> Apachez check latency (ping) between both machines, that may be your issue
[11:00] <Apachez> nope 9.5ms
[11:00] <Apachez> the issue seems to be the wget script in netinstall who will take 5 seconds to resolve each download
[11:01] <gpunk> might be DNS related , can you reboot the router?
[11:01] <Apachez> but there are no network issues once its resolved it goes fast to download
[11:01] <wendico> it seems to me a network related issue, dns, netbios names.... etc
[11:01] <Apachez> how can I debug what the netinstall or rather wget is acutally trying to do?
[11:01] <Apachez> other boxes on the same switch resolves fine
[11:02] <Apachez> I would guess its somehow ipv6 related
[11:02] <Apachez> tty2 says there is a linklocal v6 but I would guess wget still waits for something v6 related before giving up and go for v4 anyway
[11:02] <wendico> snort (check your packets transfers with sniffing software)
[11:03] <FortKnight> do you have any experiences with other netinstalls on the in the same network environment that do NOT take 5 seconds to resolve downloads???
[11:03] <blackflow> or just tcpdump, really no need to install the whole snort IDS......
[11:03] <Apachez> well only needed to netinstall ubuntu so far
[11:03] <Apachez> unfortunately tcpdump isnt included in the mini.iso
[11:03] <FortKnight> so no experience to validate it being abnormal
[11:04] <Apachez> well the same box once isntalled works just fine
[11:04] <Apachez> so we can rule out hardware, cable, routers etc
[11:04] <Apachez> what remains is the behaviour of netinstall (mini.iso) and how wget does things
[11:04] <wendico> snort as hint, but u can use ethercap or similar lighter sniffing software
[11:04] <FortKnight> without any other experiences with netinstall to compare it to...could be functioning as designed
[11:04] <Apachez> hmm
[11:05] <Apachez> does wget have some nifty debug mode which isnt too obstructed?
[11:05] <blackflow> Apachez: I'm not sure what the mini iso does specifically but perhaps you could temporarily configure /etc/resolv.conf to use your upstream resolvers directly, bypass systemd-resolved, which often seems to be causing issues.
[11:05] <Apachez> blackflow: ill try thAT IN tty2
[11:05] <FortKnight> after all you have nothing to directly compare this performance to or against ...keyword "directly"
[11:05] <dchapman> exit
[11:06] <Apachez> the /etc/resolv.conf shows correct nameservers so systemd doesnt seem to interfere there
[11:06] <Apachez> FortKnight: well once installed everything is fine so I have that to compare again
[11:06] <Apachez> st
[11:06] <FortKnight> apples vs oranges comparison
[11:06] <FortKnight> netinstall vs netinstall
[11:07] <Apachez> well sure but this apple to apple compare rules out hardware malfunctions
[11:07] <Apachez> will try debugging wget to hopefully see what its waiting for for each download
[11:08] <glick> hi
[11:08] <adrian_1908> hi
[11:08] <glick> does anyone run ubuntu on dell inspiron 17 7000?
[11:08] <glick> thinking of buying it wondering if linux runs on it well
[11:09] <gpunk> https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4755/dmi:Inspiron177000Series7746/
[11:09] <dar123> i have to configure dns server in lab, just a domain with couple of A/SRV records. Still bind is the most popular dns server?
[11:10] <gpunk> yup
[11:10] <Apachez> so something is fishy with resolving in netinstall
[11:11] <blackflow> Apachez: did you try manually wgetting a packge from another tty?
[11:12] <ppf> anyone know of a way to synchronize photos between an android phone and an ubuntu system?
[11:13] <ppf> _without_ detour via "the cloud"
[11:16] <blackflow> ppf: did you try it with Shotwell? I think it is mtp aware and can do "sync" -- assuming you don't mean just "copy over", as that it definitely can. plus you can use the file manager.
[11:17] <ppf> blackflow: i was looking more for a permanent backup type solution
[11:18] <blackflow> ppf: mobile apps are all about cloud. if you don't want cloud, then plug in + copy over is "a way". I don't know if there's any software that can do that automatically when you plug your phone in
[11:18] <Apachez> blackflow: yup.. I can clearly see how it hangs for 5 seconds in "resolving" before getting the answer, but other boxes gets answer instantly
[11:18] <Apachez> I am now trying to boot the netinstall with ipv6.disable=1 and see how that will affect wget
[11:18] <ppf> i'm not looking for a way to do it when the phones plugged in, but always-on
[11:19] <blackflow> ppf: and you can always script up a solution with rsync that does that. plug your phone in, and run a rsync script that syncs up (not just copy over but "sync" as in delete what's missing on source)
[11:19] <blackflow> ppf: maybe something based on syncthing? google says there's an android app
[11:20] <ppf> interesting, i hadn't even consided!
[11:20] <ppf> fwiw i'm using syncthing already for the local network backup :D
[11:20] <ppf> (not on the phone though)
[11:20] <blackflow> ppf: but in general, if you don't want "cloud", you'll have to make your own cloud. always-on, not only when plugged in, requires a server running somwhere, ergo your own personal cloud.
[11:21] <ppf> sure,  i can do that
[11:21] <blackflow> Apachez: can't apt install tcpdump on mini iso's root?
[11:21] <ppf> maybe 'sometimes-on' is nicer though
[11:21] <ppf> i.e. only sync with the server at home, not the ones on the internet
[11:21] <blackflow> Apachez: it should be a regular ubuntu root fs, albeit in ram iirc
[11:22] <blackflow> ppf: syncthing or see if nextcloud has an android app, and I think I saw one
[11:22] <blackflow> you can install nextcloud on your own server/machine
[11:22] <ppf> yeah, but nextcloud is not too happy generally when the other end isn't available
[11:23] <blackflow> ppf: I'm not sure what you mean, as that's it primary purpose, for clients to be not available always.
[11:23] <Apachez> doesnt seem to exist any apt-get
[11:23] <blackflow> I mean, if there's an app, then there's a nextcloud _client_ app, which by design works in "not available always" mode
[11:23] <Apachez> there is an apt-install but apt-install tcpdump  didnt make any difference
[11:24] <blackflow> Apachez: maybe wget in the .deb of tcpdump and install locall with dpkg -I
[11:24] <blackflow> *locally
[11:24] <blackflow> surely there's dpkg?
[11:24] <ppf> blackflow: i mean the server
[11:25] <ppf> assume i run the server at home, so the phones get to synch whenever they join the wifi
[11:26] <Apachez> nope, no dpkg
[11:26] <Apachez> those who created mini.iso at canonical sure made debugging hard :P
[11:26] <Apachez> ipv6.disable=1 as kernelparam when booting doesnt seem to affect this behaviour
[11:26] <blackflow> ppf: well in that case I don't know. it does sound weird that nextcloud would have issues with it, even its client app having issues with server being termporarily unavailable. isues other than "no server, can't run at the moment" kind, which is... normal.
[11:27] <Apachez> ip addr verifies that there are no longer any v6 link local when booted with ipv6.disable=1
[11:27] <blackflow> Apachez: why even use mini. personally I carry the full blown ubuntu desktop iso around and use debootstrap to install servers :)      but... that said, I'm not sure what you can do then. if you can't install tools and there aren't tools present already.
[11:29] <blackflow> Apachez: also, resolving might be just a red herring. as it's the _first_ step in network comm, could be your ipv6 needs to re-negotiate every time a session is started, so resolving takes longer because it's the first thing wget does
[11:29] <ppf> blackflow: yes, syncthing is absolutely perfect for this
[11:29] <blackflow> ppf: excellent :)
[11:30] <blackflow> Apachez: tried forcing ipv4?
[11:30] <Apachez> for wget?
[11:31] <Apachez> I tried adding    options timeout:1    in /etc/resolv.conf and that affects the wait for wget
[11:31] <Apachez> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/290987/resolving-hostname-takes-5-seconds
[11:32] <jordila> i've just created ... ' adduser myuser && passwd myuser ' . I can login as such on tty, but not on XFCE / X session ... what am i missing ?
[11:32] <ppf> blackflow: i'm just so confused i hadn't considered it ..
[11:33] <blackflow> Apachez: right so perhaps try with ipv4 only?
[11:35] <outoftime> Hello. Is there any chance to upgrade Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04\18.04 without reinstalling?
[11:35] <ppf> blackflow: cause it just works
[11:37] <Smokie> hey guys, the directory /var/www/html is owned by the root user, how can i give /var/www/ access to my user so i dont have to sudo everything i do on any website i do ?
[11:37] <ppf> you _can_, but you shouldn't
[11:38] <Smokie> ppf, me? why not?
[11:38] <ppf> security
[11:39] <Smokie> this is a local server, no access to/from the internet.. and isnt it more risky to run web apps and websites using root user?
[11:39] <Apachez> blackflow: yeah, wget -4 http://idg.se   will directly resolve
[11:39] <ppf> rather, you should set up some auto-deployment pipeline
[11:39] <blackflow> Smokie: there's  ~/public_html/   or ~/htdocs/   kind of a standard for those cases, configure the site to use those dirs, if you want regular user to change stuff there
[11:39] <ppf> the webapps aren't running as root, your nginx/apache has its own user
[11:39] <Smokie> blackflow, this is only for me on a local isolated VM
[11:40] <Smokie> ppf, yeah, but whatever changes i need to do there has to be done with 'sudo'
[11:40] <Smokie> i mean the way it is right now
[11:40] <ppf> yes, and that's good
[11:40] <blackflow> Smokie: right so do that. OR, put /var/www in your user group and set g+w on all dirs. need to sticky that too, for new files to inherit g+w
[11:40] <Apachez> blackflow: while wget http://idg.se   will hang for 5 seconds before going for the v4 address
[11:41] <blackflow> Smokie: although developing sites under ~/public_html/   on a personal server  /  dev machine,    is better. dont' change system default paths
[11:42] <blackflow> Apachez: tcpdump would show stuff here. sounds like it's trying AAAA, hangs or doesn't get the answer, retries A, and in total takes longer. Just remove ipv6 then for the installation
[11:42] <Smokie> blackflow, id do that using VirtualHost, right?
[11:42] <blackflow> Smokie: for Apache? yes
[11:43] <blackflow> Smokie: there's even a mod that understands   http://blahblah/~user/   paths and automatically uses ~/public_html
[11:43] <blackflow> s/paths/URLs
[11:43] <blackflow> Smokie: mod_userdir
[11:44] <blackflow> Smokie: however, that might break the web app if it's not expecting to be run under //~user/   so then yeah, VirtualHost directive mapping the dev domain of your choice to your ~/
[11:45] <Smokie> blackflow, ill read up on that
[11:46] <Apachez> blackflow: how to do that?  adding ipv6.disable=1 to kernel during boot of netinstall didnt help
[11:46] <Apachez> seems like glibc or whatever is doing the resolving still tries v6 and timesout before going v4
[11:46] <Apachez> like old windows systems :(
[11:46] <blackflow> Apachez: frankly, other than removing ipv6 from network config, I'm not sure
[11:47] <blackflow> Apachez: ip addr del <public-ipv6-subnet-you-got> dev eth0_or_whatever_device_is_it
[11:49] <Apachez> yeah but when booting with ipv6.disable=1 there is never a v6 interface setup
[11:50] <Apachez> ip addr   displays just v4
[11:50] <Apachez> will try manipulating my dns to see if replies only including v4 might resolve this, this wont help people using 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 but will resolve my issues at least
[11:50] <glick> im trying to find a decent computer that will allow me to edit photos well
[11:50] <blackflow> Apachez: so why would it try to resolve via ipv6? or hummm... yes... I think resolving will try AAAA always.... lemme check
[11:50] <glick> using darktable
[11:50] <glick> any suggestions
[11:51] <glick> my 2013 macbook is starting to get long in the tooth
[11:53] <fub> Hi. I want to restore some files from an (I think encrypted) dejadup backup. I selected the folder -> restore folder and dejadup opens. It finds my backup on my external drive. Then I select "forward" and Im on the "Restore.. Preparing" screen where nothing happens.
[11:53] <fub> nvm, just as I wrote it worked. Seems like restoring takes time, even for just a few files.
[11:54] <Apachez> blackflow: adding   options single-request    or      options single-request-reopen    seems to fix the behaviour
[11:54] <blackflow> Apachez: right, gai.conf, try this:    https://community.rackspace.com/products/f/public-cloud-forum/5110/how-to-prefer-ipv4-over-ipv6-in-ubuntu-and-centos
[11:54] <blackflow> Apachez: oh that too, as it removes parallelization of A/AAAA
[11:58] <Apachez> except that netinstall lacks /etc/gai.conf :(
[12:04] <Apachez> the proper fix seems to be to include options single-request and/or options single-request-reopen  in /etc/resolv.conf
[12:04] <Apachez> how do I file this as a complaint? ;)  feature request for the people maintaining the mini.iso ?
[12:08] <jordila> outoftime ... we are on the same boat ... (we always did) 'Hi again, Is there any chance to upgrade Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04\18.04 without reinstalling? '
[12:23] <aswsd> Does Ubuntu runs better on Hyper-V than Virtualbox? https://blog.ubuntu.com/2018/09/17/optimised-ubuntu-desktop-images-available-in-microsoft-hyper-v-gallery?_ga=2.250540998.1598578804.1537704939-1299210311.1537704939
[12:31] <blackflow> jordila: outoftime: not sure if you can upgrade straight from 14.04 to 18.04, but it should be possible through 16.04, thus in two steps
[12:32] <blackflow> !upgrade
[12:33] <blackflow> Apachez: not sure there's anything to fix. I think that thing is meant to be quickly deployed from an installation image, that's why it's a "mini" ISO. there's always regulard desktop/server isos, fully featured, that you can (de)bootstrap your installation from.
[12:34] <ruffleS> On a Dell XPS 14 (L421X) notebook running Ubuntu 18.04 I can't set screen brightness using Fn + F4 / Fn + F5. Anyone?
[12:36] <Apachez> blackflow: well sure but the mini.iso is official for alternative downloads netinstall
[12:37] <Apachez> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads   ->  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[12:37] <Apachez> so it would be great if the mini.iso would be fixed to include   options single-request   in its /etc/resolv.conf
[12:38] <blackflow> Apachez: but why? it's not a bug, this is specific to your use case
[12:39] <blackflow> your upstream either misconfiugred ipv6 or isn't caching
[12:58] <Sven_vB> what's that clock screen called that shows up in Bionic when I'm inactive for too long?
[12:58] <Sven_vB> s~I'm~my input devices are~
[12:58] <Apachez> blackflow: I have seen this elsewhere with people grumbling that ubuntu is slow for netinstall so its not just me
[12:58] <Apachez> but since i got a usecase on front row I spent some time to identify a proper fix
[12:59] <Apachez> no reason for why canonical wouldnt add this fix in resolv.conf for mini.iso
[12:59] <Apachez> there is no negative impact
[13:09] <Sven_vB> bing seems to think that clock screen is the "lock" screen… is that the same? because the settings panel shows the lock screen as disabled
[13:10] <blackflow> Apachez: they probably won't because that'll affect users with working ipv6. But you can always try and file a bug report on the launchpad, not sure against which package/product, tho'
[13:12] <blackflow> Apachez: you can use this link, because reporting bugs directly is very much discouraged, but I guess acceptable in this case:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[13:15] <Sven_vB> looks like it might have been the "screen blanking". I'd have thought "blanking" would show a black screen, not the wall time. =)
[13:28] <wendico> guiverc, ducasse: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ worked good but instructions are not correct. Need install xterm and must manually execute script from terminal. Thank you.
[13:28] <wendico> sorry for so late feedback
[13:29] <ducasse> wendico: thanks for letting us know, we'll keep that in mind the next time someone asks
[13:30] <ring0> how can unattended-upgrades also update packages from the partner repo? /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades only provides options for security, updates, proposed and backports
[13:30] <ducasse> wendico: glad it worked out for you :)
[13:31] <wendico> ducasse, also not all iso are suported, for example, cm-x86_64.r2.iso from androidx86 is not supported
[13:31] <wendico> thank you very much though for the help
[13:31] <Moulin> hello guys. just remind me: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M status=progress, is the correct command to zero out a HDD, right?
[13:33] <ppf> Moulin: yes
[13:35] <outoftime> Can anybody help me with dist-upgrade 14.04 to 18.04?
[13:35] <Moulin> ppf, thanks :D
[13:35] <Moulin> !eol
[13:35] <Moulin> outoftime, ^
[13:38] <outoftime> I want to upgrade Ubuntu 14.04.5 so it is still not EOL
[13:38] <outoftime> According to
[13:38] <outoftime> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[13:42] <outoftime> Why 'sudo do-release-upgrade -d' sad "No new release found"?
[13:43] <ppf> -d only brings you from latest to development
[13:43] <ppf> which version to you want to upgrade to
[13:43] <outoftime> latest
[13:43] <Doow> Hi, I'm trying to set up a custom keyboard (ubuntu 18.04), nothing peculiar about the system. I want to inherit the one I'm currently using. I google a bit and found about 5 different guides, and they all say slightly different things.
[13:44] <Doow> I just want to add a couple of characters (swedish ones) to the american keyboard
[13:44] <Doow> sofar I
[13:44] <Doow> I
[13:45] <ppf> outoftime: just do-release-upgrade brings you to the latest
[13:45] <Doow> I'm not even sure what exactly is being used
[13:45] <outoftime> ppf: I have started `sudo do-release-upgrade` and waiting for it to finish
[13:45] <ppf> okay, does it work?
[13:45] <ppf> because "skipping" releases is not specifically supported
[13:46] <wk-work> hey there having some errors trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04 : https://pastebin.com/raw/69iBLhn5 - as far as i can see, those paths dont seem to exist on the repo
[13:46] <outoftime> ppf: I says that it needs to download 1.5G in order to upgrade and about 80 packages not supported
[13:46] <outoftime> ppf: *it says
[13:47] <ppf> well i guess you'll see if it works :)
[13:47] <outoftime> ppf: it touches xenial, is it 18 ?
[13:49] <wk-work> hey there having some errors trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04 : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9MPQPQ945z/ - as far as i can see, those paths dont seem to exist on the repo. is there anything i need to do prior to upgrading ?
[13:49] <livingdaylight> Hello. Have very old hardware, 'core-duo' processor What would be a suiutable window manager? Mate or xfce or lighter?
[13:50] <outoftime> livingdaylight: I have even older processor and standard WM works fine
[13:52] <outoftime> wk-work: I'm trying to upgrade 14.04.5 right now, for now I can see no errors
[13:52] <livingdaylight> I don't know why, my machine is very slow... don't remember if it its 2 or 4gb ram... I looked on elementrary and they said ideally minimum should be i3 processor.... you're saying standard gnome is fine?
[13:52] <wk-work> outoftime: thanks, but that doesnt help me :) how does your source.list look like ?
[13:53] <outoftime> wk-work: "http://ua.archive/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial..."
[13:56] <outoftime> livingdaylight: I have PC with athlon x2 and I'm using it as development machine. Is had 10G RAM and uses SSD for OS related data and programs. All user data on HDD.
[13:56] <dptc> I've logged onto my laptop today to find that I can log in and use programs but my local files are unaccessable. Moreover, my dropbox folder is said to been relocated despite that not being the case. Is there any known bugs with recent updates that could cause this?
[13:57] <dptc> in fact, the only directories that exist using the ls command are snap and template, which I had made months ago.
[13:58] <outoftime> wk-work: You sad that you have upgraded to 16.04 but in your sources list links to 14.04
[13:58] <outoftime> wk-work: what `lsb_release -a` says?
[13:59] <livingdaylight> outoftime: this is an old dell 530s Dug it out of the cupboard recently... nice to get some life out of it
[13:59] <wk-work> that's not what I said, I said I'm having issues updating to 16.04 from 14.04.5
[13:59] <outoftime> wk-work: same to me, I have all of error before I have finaly started upgrade
[14:00] <wk-work> hey there having some errors trying to upgrade from 14.04.5 to 16.04 : https://pastebin.com/raw/69iBLhn5 - as far as i can see, those paths dont seem to exist on the repo
[14:00] <wk-work> hmm
[14:00] <outoftime> wk-work: I have intalled apt-transport-https first
[14:00] <wk-work> i've already got that
[14:00] <outoftime> wk-work: that I have ignorred warning and update phase as well as `apt-get` and started to use `apt`
[14:01] <FortKnight> dptc: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[14:01] <outoftime> wk-work: I have also installed update-manager-core
[14:03] <outoftime> wk-work: then I have tried few timed `sudo apt dist-upgrade` and last command I have tried you can find in this chat above
[14:04] <outoftime> livingdaylight: Have you tried to install latest ubuntu and turn off all visual effects?
[14:06] <livingdaylight> outoftime: no, haven't tbh. What DE does Ubuntu ship with these days?  I haven't tried default Ubuntu since Unity days
[14:06] <ppf> livingdaylight: gnome
[14:07] <ppf> but you might just install a more tiny DE
[14:07] <ppf> or maybe run a bare WM?
[14:09] <wk-work> outoftime: I'm blind. ddebs was in sources.list.d
[14:09] <wk-work> removed that and we're good to go
[14:09] <livingdaylight> Yea, gnome feels its gonna give me a poor experience
[14:09] <dar123> how can i verify which files are installed by a package, need to see all the files and directories
[14:09] <dar123> installed the package using apt install
[14:13] <outoftime> dar123: have you seen https://serverfault.com/questions/88510/how-do-i-show-the-actions-that-installing-a-deb-package-will-take ?
[14:14] <dar123>  'dpkg --listfiles packagename' works
[14:14] <dar123> thanks
[14:14] <outoftime> lmgtfy works
[14:24] <Exterminador> livingdaylight: I have xubuntu installed and I like the xfce DE that's shipped with
[14:24] <Exterminador> perhaps you could give it a go?
[14:24] <livingdaylight> Exterminador: thx
[14:25] <Exterminador> it's probably one of the most lightweight DEs you'll encounter (imho)
[14:33] <dorei> I've just installed unity @ ubuntu18, no more depression and sadness caused by the ugliness of ubuntu18 :)
[14:34] <usr123> https://dpaste.de/CF7i I get this error when I try and open emacs shell
[14:34] <outoftime> dorei: is it so bad with default settings?
[14:34] <outoftime> usr123: using vim...
[14:36] <usr123> outoftime: I'm sorry?
[14:36] <outoftime> usr123: `ls /usr/bin/zsh`
[14:36] <dorei> outoftime: it is confusing and some thinks seems pointless, like that bar at the top
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:37] <outoftime> usr123: what output do you have?
[14:37] <usr123> outoftime: There is not dir like that, I uninstalled zsh
[14:38] <outoftime> usr123: looks like emacs is shell script with shebang to /usr/bin/zsh install it back or change shebang
[14:39] <outoftime> usr123: it will not work if script uses some zsh specific calls
[14:39] <usr123> outoftime: How do I change the shebang?
[14:39] <outoftime> usr123: vim or nano $(which emacs)
[14:40] <usr123> outoftime: It looks binary
[14:42] <outoftime> usr123: `emacs | nc termbin.com 9999`
[14:42] <outoftime> usr123:  not sure it will redirect errors
[14:43] <outoftime> usr123: use `&>` instead of pipe
[14:43] <outoftime> usr123: `emacs &> nc termbin.com 9999`
[14:50] <outoftime> usr123: what do you have?
[14:50] <Moulin> is it supposed to zero out a HDD to take like 2h (it's a 500GB HDD)?
[14:51] <outoftime> Moulin: do you want to use `dd`?
[14:52] <Moulin> I'm currently zeroing it out using dd
[14:53] <Moulin> I've typed: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M status=progress
[14:53] <outoftime> Moulin: speed depends on block size you choose
[14:53] <Moulin> next time I'll choose like bs=4M then xD
[14:54] <outoftime> Moulin: I'm using 8M when making bootalbe USB sticks, do not know what is the best choice for HDD
[14:54] <Moulin> although seems to be almost done (490GB done)
[14:54] <outoftime> Moulin: there no flush yet
[14:54] <Moulin> nope. doesn't seem so
[14:54] <outoftime> flush takes most of the time
[14:55] <outoftime> Moulin: I do not remember command, but I usually using it after `dd` to ensure everything is in sync with fs
[14:56] <Moulin> funny fact is that the laptop started to zero out the HDD at a speed of about 400MB/s and now it's only 50MB/s
[14:56] <outoftime> Moulin: `man sync`
[14:56] <blackandblue> # Recommended location for database
[14:56] <blackandblue> db_file            "~/.config/mpd/database"
[14:56] <blackandblue> # Logs to systemd journal
[14:56] <blackandblue> log_file           "syslog"
[14:56] <blackandblue> # The music directory is by default the XDG directory, uncomment to amend and choose a different directory
[14:56] <blackandblue> #music_directory    "~/music"
[14:57] <outoftime> blackandblue: you have to use pastebin to provide multinile output, etc.
[14:58] <outoftime> Moulin: writing speed depends on how close writing sector to center of HDD
[14:58] <outoftime> !motd
[15:01] <usr123> outoftime: Hey, thanks for all your suggestions
[15:02] <usr123> outoftime: So my $SHELL is pointing to /usr/bin/zsh
[15:02] <usr123> outoftime: and emacs picked up default from there I guess
[15:02] <usr123> outoftime: I changed it to /bin/bash and it worked just now
[15:02] <outoftime> usr123: looks true
[15:03] <usr123> outoftime: One question though, my $SHELL still points to /usr/bin/zsh. Any way I can change that?
[15:03] <outoftime> usr123: do not forget to modify ~/.bashrc
[15:04] <usr123> outoftime: modify .bashrc to what?
[15:04] <outoftime> usr123: there are bunch of files that executes when user logging in, .bashrc only one of them
[15:05] <usr123> outoftime: Ok, Thanks.
[15:05] <outoftime> usr123: $SHELL should be overriden in .bashrc or similar config
[15:08] <oaulakh> can anyone help with lubuntu here, i updated my system and wifi stop working. i done "lspci" but device not showing
[15:08] <Beren> outoftime: chsh -s /bin/bash
[15:09] <outoftime> Beren: usr123 is who needs help
[15:10] <usr123> Beren: Do I need sudo?
[15:10] <ioria> oaulakh, probably you built the module your self and get lost with kernel update ?
[15:10] <Beren> oaulakh: does the network device show up in `ip a`?
[15:12] <Beren> usr123: no, since you're probably changing for your own user
[15:12] <dorei> how can i disable snapd? systemctl disable snapd seems to have no effect :(
[15:12] <outoftime> dorei: you can not disable windows's hand
[15:12] <ioria> dorei, not sure, but you need to systemctl stop/disable   snapd-seeded too
[15:12] <oaulakh> Beren, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yxHVxNcqBg/
[15:12] <Sven_vB> dorei, try to also mask the service
[15:13] <dorei> okie, i think it'd be better to just purge the snap package
[15:13] <oaulakh> Beren, mean i try on off wifi but light also not working, is it something wrong with my hardware or os
[15:14] <usr123> Beren: I had to do a sudo, it worked
[15:14] <outoftime> dorei: do you have problems with snap?
[15:14] <usr123> Beren: Thanks
[15:14] <usr123> outoftime: Thanks
[15:14] <outoftime> usr123: google for `linux change $SHELL` or similar
[15:14] <xyz111> Hi, I seem to have messed up my Lubuntu installation by trying to install wine. Now, mysql won't start and neither will php. Moreover, my shortcuts for atom IDE and google chrome from the main menu seem to have randomly disappeared too. I have no idea how this happened, and would really appreciate any help. Thanks :)
[15:15] <usr123> Just asking, this might have caused issues while uninstalling zsh, so the best way to uninstall anything is purge and autoremove right?
[15:15] <dorei> outoftime: i see no reason for replacing apt with snap
[15:15] <Beren> oaulakh: 1. what version of Ubuntu are you on? 2. do you know what device it is? 3. are you on stock kernel?
[15:16] <Beren> usr123: You can do that. Removing zsh should be fine
[15:16] <usr123> Beren:  How do I remove?
[15:17] <outoftime> dorei: me too, but I'm using snap to install Skype for instance. There are lot of packages that do not have repos on launchpad and can not be installed with apt
[15:17] <usr123> Beren: sudo apt-get autoremove zsh?
[15:17] <Beren> usr123: yes. You can try it, it won't remove without prompting you
[15:18] <xyz111> I did at one point run `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386` and then did `sudo apt-get install -f` - could these have messed things up on my 64 bit machine?
[15:18] <usr123> Beren: Thanks
[15:18] <oaulakh> Beren, i am on lubuntu 18.04 on Sony Vaio VPCEH25EN
[15:20] <Beren> oaulakh: When you say light, you mean the backlight isn't working?
[15:21] <Beren> oaulakh: can you post output of lspci?
[15:24] <outoftime> xyz111: you should be able to install and run x32 apps now, but you probably have to follow instruction on ubuntu's wiki
[15:25] <oaulakh> Beren, when i say light i mean to button light of wifi&bluetooth, here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QpKRqDQP9W/
[15:25] <xyz111> outoftime: to be honest, I don't even want wine on my system any more. I just want to go back to the state before I tried adding wine.
[15:26] <outoftime> xyz111: what do you need wine?
[15:26] <outoftime> xyz111: why?
[15:26] <xyz111> outoftime: I don't need it anymore - I was trying to use it for something, but found an alternate solution.
[15:26] <xyz111> outoftime: while installing wine32 something seems to have messed up my system
[15:27] <xyz111> in that google chrome and atom IDE have been uninstalled
[15:27] <xyz111> and php and mariadb no longer seem to start
[15:27] <xyz111> perhaps they have been uninstalled too
[15:27] <outoftime> xyz111: backup your commands `history | /tmp/history.log`
[15:27] <outoftime> xyz111: wrong command
[15:28] <outoftime> xyz111: there are just idea of what to do
[15:28] <outoftime> xyz111: then follow your commands and decline them one by one in oposite order
[15:29] <xyz111> I did this: `sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386` , then:  `sudo apt update && apt install wine32` then `sudo apt update`
[15:29] <xyz111> could they have messed things up?
[15:30] <ioria> oaulakh, i don't see a wifi device; try with  sudo lshw -c Network
[15:31]  * outoftime away
[15:33] <oaulakh> Beren, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3xwgCm3Hy9/
[15:34] <ioria> oaulakh, no wifi, sy
[15:35] <oaulakh> ioria, i dunno what happened but before update my laptop was just fine :(
[15:36] <ioria> oaulakh,  you can check dmesg ,but idk the correct keyword
[15:36] <usr123> I get bash: /home/detect/.local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin: No such file or directory. Is this bad?
[15:37] <Beren> usr123: bad PATH
[15:37] <usr123> Beren: How do I fix this?
[15:37] <outoftime> xyz111: this 3 commands are harmless
[15:37] <ioria> oaulakh,  you can always use an adapter (you're already using one fot eth)
[15:37] <Beren> check your bashrc, are you exporting something to PATH?
[15:38] <oaulakh> ioria, but i'm using my phone but now i think i need wifi adaptor :(
[15:38] <oaulakh> ioria, thanks for help anyways  :)
[15:38] <ioria> oaulakh,  no prob ... do you rember the wifi adapter manufacturer ?
[15:38] <ioria> *remember
[15:39] <oaulakh> ioria, athk something i think, i seen before in lspci
[15:39] <usr123> Beren: nope
[15:39] <ioria> oaulakh,  yep.... your kernel ?  uname -r
[15:40] <xyz111> outoftime: I'm basically reinstalling everything as I can't quite understand what happened
[15:40] <xyz111> to be honest, I also did an update
[15:40] <oaulakh> ioria, 4.15.0-33-generic
[15:40] <xyz111> outoftime: I updated the system just before attempting to install wine
[15:40] <ioria> oaulakh,  current is 34 : sudo apt update  && sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:41] <xyz111> I think that may have done something funny as well
[15:41] <outoftime> xyz111: looks like proublems are because of system upgrade, not because of wine installation not even launch
[15:41] <oaulakh> ioria, ok wait
[15:42] <outoftime> xyz111: *not even launched
[15:43] <usr123> Beren: I found this in .profile though. https://dpaste.de/ypjq
[15:43] <outoftime> usr123: !paste
[15:43] <usr123> !paste
[15:44] <usr123> outoftime: I'm sorry?
[15:44] <usr123> outoftime: I should not paste that?
[15:45] <outoftime> usr123: your pasts contain lots of numbers and that pastebin just makes thing worth
[15:46] <usr123> outoftime: Apologies.
[15:46] <usr123> Here is the new paste https://dpaste.de/bkMC
[15:47] <Beren> usr123: That looks like the default .profile. Should be fine
[15:47] <Beren> usr123: Check that list of paths, one of them is bad. Maybe your home folder one with .local
[15:59] <cnnx> I have lubuntu installed on a usb 2.0 stick I've been booting off of, but its slow so I want to move it to an ssd drive, is it possible to do this without re-installing and copying the files?
[15:59] <cnnx> the usb is 32gb and the ssd is 60gb
[16:00] <BluesKaj> cnnx, read up on the dd command, it's one option
[16:00] <gpunk> you could tar/untar  but you ll have to reinstall thebootloader
[16:01] <Beren> cnnx: You can use a tool like Clonezilla to disk to disk copy. Since the target is larger, You can use the -r option to use the additional space
[16:02] <cnnx> Beren: thanks I'll use that
[16:02] <cnnx> I think dd I will lose the extra space
[16:02] <jordila> On a fresh install, i want to stick to Firefox pre-Quantum release ... how does it can be accomplished ?
[16:03] <outoftime> cnnx: dd + gparted
[16:04] <Beren> jordila: maybe install from source, or firefox-esr packagr from mozillateam ppa
[16:04] <oaulakh> ioria, just come here to say thanks, yes it worked with full upgrade
[16:04] <outoftime> cnnx: dd will copy your system to new device and gparted will extend partition to size of SSD
[16:04] <oaulakh> ioria, thanks :)
[16:04] <ioria> oaulakh,  ok, good
[16:04] <ioria> oaulakh,  you're wellcome
[16:04] <jordila> ah... Beren ... so, Firefox-ESR is yet at pre-Quantum release ?
[16:04] <oaulakh> ioria, i think it crashed with last kernel update
[16:05] <ioria> oaulakh,  probably
[16:05] <oaulakh> ioria, :) bye
[16:05] <ioria> oaulakh,  bye
[16:05] <cnnx> so dd is easy.. dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb (that's it?) assuming bootingt from a live usb
[16:07] <outoftime> cnnx: you can add blocksize as well as progress
[16:08]  * jordila umh... it seems that Firefox 60 is the latest pre-Quantum release, while Firefox-ESR is on v60 , AFAIK
[16:08] <cnnx> outoftime: bs=512 is ok?
[16:10] <outoftime> cnnx: I'm usually using 8M
[16:11] <legendary-acp> Hi
[16:11] <cnnx> i'm booting into clonezilla live usb
[16:11] <cristian_c> I've tried to blacklist a kernel module
[16:11] <cnnx> then i can plug my other usb
[16:11] <BluesKaj> 4M is a good comproise
[16:11] <BluesKaj> oops compromise
[16:12] <cnnx> its ok im on a shell now
[16:12] <cnnx> dont need clonezilla
[16:12] <cnnx> ok bs=4096
[16:12] <legendary-acp> Anyone plz help me I need to switch my WiFi to 5GHz band. How to do it?
[16:12] <cristian_c> I've edited /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf but it didn't work, also typing sudo update-initramfs -u after that
[16:13] <cristian_c> I've tried also to pur a blackliat in grub command line at runrime, in tqo different ways and that didn't work too
[16:13] <cnnx> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=4096 | pv | dd of=/dev/null
[16:13] <cnnx> is this command ok?
[16:13] <cristian_c> I don't know how to effectively blacklist a module in 18.04, every boot I find the mosule loaded
[16:13] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[16:14] <cnnx> no wait
[16:14] <Beren> cnnx: cool. You can resize after dd to use your additional space
[16:18] <outoftime> I have upgraded 14.04.5 to 16.04, after reboot I'm trying kernel 4.4 and I'm getting black screen and no reaction
[16:19] <outoftime> kernel 4.4.0-135-generic from grub menu
[16:20] <ioria> outoftime, amd/ati card ?
[16:20] <outoftime> ioria: yes, radeon
[16:20] <cnnx> will the resulting ssd boot
[16:20] <ioria> outoftime,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[16:20] <cnnx> just like the usb boots?
[16:21] <outoftime> ioria: how? I have black screen after grub
[16:21] <outoftime> ioria: liveusb?
[16:21] <ioria> outoftime,  recovery
[16:21] <ioria> outoftime,  Advanced Options -> recovery
[16:22] <outoftime> ioria: yes, I saw recovery mode, rebooting
[16:22] <ioria> outoftime,  or just use 'nomodeset' to boot the gui
[16:22] <outoftime> I can see `dmesg` log now
[16:23] <ioria> outoftime,  dpkg -l | grep fglrx
[16:23] <outoftime> ioria: from root shell?
[16:23] <ioria> outoftime,  yes
[16:25] <outoftime> ioria: I have tried to pipe to termbin, got error, rewriting to pastebin by hands now
[16:26] <ioria> outoftime,  just tell if it's installed (ii)
[16:28] <cesdo> Hello all
[16:28] <cesdo> How to watch F4M in mpv or vlc?
[16:29] <cesdo> It is video stream
[16:29] <outoftime> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dQ7Pbmp968/
[16:29] <cesdo> without drm
[16:29] <ioria> outoftime,   exit and resume   (it should boot with nomodeset iirc)
[16:31] <outoftime> ioria: "You are now goin to exit te recovery mode and continue the boot sequence. Please note that some graphic drivers require a full graphical boot and so will fail whn resuming from recovery. If that's the case, simply reboot from the login screen and the perform a standard boot.
[16:31] <ioria> outoftime,   it's ok
[16:32] <outoftime> ioria: I've got alt+f1 login request
[16:33] <bulle>   only when doing the release upgrade
[16:33] <ioria> outoftime,   'low graphic mode' ?
[16:33] <bulle> hi, im using btrfs as root fs. And want to do a release upgrade. But ubuntu then automaticly creates a bunch och snapshots ( three of them ) and then i run out of disk space and the upgrade failes. How do i disable this ? i do not have apt-btrfs-snapshot installed. And i dont get these snapshots when just using apt, only when doing the release upgrade
[16:33] <outoftime> ioria: tty1
[16:33] <ioria> outoftime,  can you login ?
[16:33] <outoftime> ioria: done
[16:34] <outoftime> ioria: already
[16:34] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo apt-get update
[16:35] <outoftime> ioria: done
[16:35] <outoftime> ioria: upgrade?
[16:35] <ioria> outoftime,  ps -A | grep lightdm
[16:36] <outoftime> ioria: absent
[16:36] <outoftime> ioria: start service?
[16:36] <ioria> outoftime,   sudo lshw -c Video | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:37] <outoftime> ioria: sudo: lshw: command not found
[16:38] <ioria> outoftime,   which lshw
[16:38] <compdoc> sudo with the :
[16:38] <outoftime> ioria: empty
[16:39] <ioria> outoftime,   uname -r
[16:39] <outoftime> ioria: 4.4.0-135-generic
[16:39] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[16:40] <outoftime> ioria: done, but nothing seems to be installed
[16:41] <outoftime> ioria: I have autoremove messege, that all
[16:41] <ioria> outoftime,   lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:42] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/sgsk
[16:43] <ioria> outoftime,   dpkg -l | grep lshw  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:43] <outoftime> ioria: my video card is HD 670G2 - 1Gb
[16:43] <ioria> outoftime, i got it
[16:43] <ioria> outoftime,   dpkg -l | grep lshw  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:43] <outoftime> ioria: empty
[16:44] <ioria> outoftime,   sudo apt-get purge fglrx*   (note the *)
[16:46] <outoftime> ioria: got 2 warnings, but it is done
[16:46] <ioria> outoftime,   sudo apt autoremove --purge
[16:47] <Apachez> blackflow: it woulndt affect v6 users, they will still get AAAA
[16:47] <Apachez> but the delivery is more reliable with that option set
[16:47] <outoftime> ioria: done
[16:48] <ioria> outoftime,   ok, now try to reboot; if you got a blank screen after grub, wait a minute and try to open a console  (ctrl+alt+f1, or f2)
[16:49] <outoftime> ioria: I have tried ctrl+alt+f1 before
[16:50] <ioria> outoftime,   f2 and so on
[16:50] <outoftime> ioria: no, only f1 and f7, f7 is where is gui is usually
[16:50] <ioria> outoftime,   have you rebooted ?
[16:51] <outoftime> ioria: black screen for now
[16:51] <outoftime> ioria: i'll wait a bit more
[16:54] <outoftime> ioria: no response
[16:55] <ioria> outoftime,   ok, you know how to boot with nomodeset ?
[16:55] <outoftime> ioria: do not remember, I did it once with guide nearby
[16:56] <ioria> outoftime,   https://www.dell.com/support/article/it/it/itbsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en
[16:59] <outoftime> ioria: I have purple screen and ubuntu logo with loaging
[17:01] <BeforeClick> wtf is loaging
[17:01] <outoftime> BeforeClick: typo
[17:01] <BeforeClick> oh ok
[17:01] <ioria> outoftime,  if you can't boot with nomodeset,i'd start looking at logs
[17:02] <outoftime> ioria: yes, booting is looooong
[17:02] <BeforeClick> is your disk ok?
[17:02] <outoftime> ioria: looks like that is why I can not switch to tty1
[17:03] <outoftime> BeforeClick: not sure, but It should be ok
[17:03] <ioria> outoftime,  wait a bit longer...  you did an upstart -> systemd transition , probably the worst
[17:03] <outoftime> BeforeClick: I have 14.04.5 that was not able to upgrade packages that is why I decided to upgrade ubuntu
[17:04] <outoftime> ioria: I can see (upstart) mode in grub menu
[17:04] <BeforeClick> check whether your disk is working correctly and isn't full
[17:04] <ioria> outoftime,  maybe you should have told that before
[17:04] <outoftime> BeforeClick: it is not full
[17:05] <ioria> outoftime, about not being able to upgrade packages, i mean
[17:05] <outoftime> ioria: I have thought that it is because 14 is old one...
[17:05] <BeforeClick> I still suspect a disk or permission issue
[17:06] <ioria> outoftime, 14.04 is till well supported until '19
[17:06] <ioria> *s
[17:06] <outoftime> I have liveusb with 16.04 to check storage capasity, etc.
[17:07]  * outoftime still loading
[17:07] <BeforeClick> you could use a live image and modify your /etc/default/grub
[17:07] <BeforeClick> and add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"
[17:08] <outoftime> btw, I saw worning or error about swap
[17:08] <ioria> outoftime, are you sure you correctly set the parameter ?
[17:08] <BeforeClick> that should make it boot into cli
[17:08] <outoftime> ioria: yes, I have verified it few times
[17:09] <outoftime> BeforeClick: will it show boot progress in cli mode?
[17:09] <BeforeClick> and add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="text"
[17:10] <BeforeClick> there is also a line that says quiet, just comment that out
[17:11] <ioria> outoftime, we can try: reboot, where you added nomodeset, remove 'quiet splash' and add 'text'
[17:11] <outoftime> BeforeClick: so if I'll comment `quiet` that I'll see step where boot stops?
[17:11] <BeforeClick> try it :)
[17:11]  * outoftime on my way
[17:11] <outoftime> ioria: I suppose nomodeset is still required
[17:12] <ioria> outoftime, i guess so
[17:12] <ioria> outoftime, after press F10 or ctrl+x
[17:13]  * outoftime waiting
[17:15] <outoftime> ioria: no ubuntu logo apears this time
[17:15] <ioria> outoftime, that's normal
[17:16] <outoftime> ioria: 2 mins since I wrote "waiting" and still blank screen
[17:17] <BeforeClick> outoftime: next time you reboot can you use in GRUB the line with "more option for ubuntu" and use the second latest entry?
[17:17] <outoftime> BeforeClick: it is 3.3 kernel
[17:17] <outoftime> BeforeClick: from 14.04.5
[17:17] <BeforeClick> I don't care that test is to see whether your old kernel boots
[17:17] <BeforeClick> fucking KC
[17:18] <lotus|NUC> BeforeClick: can you please mind your language here
[17:18] <ioria> outoftime, you mean 3.13 ?
[17:18] <BeforeClick> yes I stand corrected
[17:18] <BeforeClick> bleepin KC
[17:19] <outoftime> ioria: yes, should be, not sure
[17:19] <grkblood13> i have a RAID5 made up of 4 drives that wont come up after a power outage. cat /proc/mdstat outputs 'md1: inactive sda1[0](S) sdc1[1](S) sdc1[2](S) sdd1[3](S)'. How do I tell which drive is bad?
[17:19] <BeforeClick> is suspect that at least two are bad else it should boot
[17:20] <grkblood13> is there a way to tell?
[17:20] <ioria> outoftime, i guess you removed something, trying to fix your previous issues
[17:20] <outoftime> BeforeClick: if your advice will help, you can write in PM anythig you want (:
[17:21] <outoftime> ioria: during upgrade there was about 80+ packages to remove
[17:21] <ioria> outoftime, it's not that; lightdm not running and default pkgs like lshw not installed
[17:21] <BeforeClick> outoftime: :) I do that anyway but it doesn't hurt to be courteous when you bump into rules every now and then
[17:21] <outoftime> ioria: and close number of outdated packages that should be deleted
[17:22] <BeforeClick> grkblood13: sorry that isn't anything I've done in years and I don't want to give you any advise in case that damages another disk
[17:23] <outoftime> ioria: I'll switch to recovery mode to find out is my home is encrypted, too long loading
[17:23] <ioria> outoftime, ok
[17:24] <outoftime> ioria: btw, what if remove only quiet without splash?
[17:24] <ioria> outoftime, you need to remove both
[17:25] <outoftime> ioria: second latest boot option for ubuntu - 3.11.0-15-generic (upstart)
[17:25] <ioria> outoftime, 3.11 ???
[17:25] <outoftime> ioria: second option is 4.4.0-135-generic (upstart)
[17:25] <ioria> outoftime, not an ubuntu kernel
[17:26] <ioria> outoftime, 3.11 it's not a trusty kernel
[17:26] <outoftime> ioria: 3.11 could be from 13.10
[17:26] <outoftime> ioria: I have started using ubuntu since 13.10 it was my first machine
[17:27] <ioria> outoftime, and why it's still there, no sense
[17:28] <outoftime> list of kernels in grub: 4.4.0-135, 3.13.0-37, 3.11.0-15
[17:28] <BeforeClick> outoftime: have you done a fresh install since this first install?
[17:29] <outoftime> BeforeClick: I have reinstalled lots of OSes since that time.. I just do not remember.
[17:29] <BeforeClick> updated or reinstalled?
[17:30] <outoftime> BeforeClick: But I know that 16.04 had problems with drivers that I have configured for 14.04 and I have not touched this machine a long time, not apt ugrades, etc.
[17:30] <NSA_Spy> Hello world! I want to mount a usb Ubuntu root system on another machine but when I mount the casper-rw file all it has is a lost+found folder.
[17:31] <NSA_Spy> My question is: Where is the try Ubuntu root system on the usb?
[17:31] <outoftime> BeforeClick: I have reinstalled my last on dev machine because of troubles, lots of troubles, also made some improvements as I added SSD (changing fstab as well)
[17:33] <ioria> outoftime, reboot in Recovery Mode , resume and open a console
[17:34] <outoftime> ioria: done
[17:34] <ioria> outoftime, sudo service lightdm restart
[17:36] <outoftime> ioria: "Job for lightdm.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systedmctl status lightdm.service" and "jurcnalctl -xe" for details
[17:38] <outoftime> ioria: sorry for typo, params are ok, those names can be guessed easy
[17:39] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/z70i
[17:39] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/3jih
[17:42] <ioria> outoftime,  do you have other display mangers installed ?
[17:44] <outoftime> ioria: I have istalled gdm on some machine manually, not sure where and when. This one doesn't look like it.
[17:44] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[17:45] <outoftime> ioria: done
[17:45] <ioria> outoftime,  ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[17:46] <outoftime> ioria: "insserv: warning: script 'ccpd' missing LSB tags and overrides
[17:46] <ioria> outoftime,  it's borked
[17:46] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/hzgm
[17:47] <outoftime> ioria: it looks like binary file
[17:49] <ioria> outoftime,  for me it's a borked system; but we can try to boot in text mode :   sudo systemctl set-default multi-user.target     and reboot
[17:51] <outoftime> ioria: done, black screen
[17:53] <outoftime> ioria: looks like solution is fresh install with same home directory
[17:53] <ioria> outoftime, well, you can also do-release-upgrade to 18.04
[17:53] <outoftime> ioria: yes, but from recovery mode only
[17:54] <outoftime> ioria: at least I can try
[17:55] <outoftime> ioria: we are chating since 19:20
[17:55] <outoftime> ioria: almove 1 hour and 40 mins
[17:55] <outoftime> *almost
[17:56] <ioria> outoftime, from recovery-> resume you can try to install --reinstall ubuntu-minimal  and install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[17:57] <outoftime> ioria: in one go or two different?
[17:57] <ioria> outoftime, one by one
[17:59] <outoftime> ioria: desktop require 334 packages to install...
[17:59] <ioria> outoftime, what ?
[17:59] <outoftime> ioria: on my way,46%
[17:59] <ioria> outoftime, you were using unity on 14.04, right ?
[17:59] <outoftime> ioria: yes
[18:00] <ioria> outoftime, puzzled; we did a full-upgrade before
[18:01] <outoftime> ioria: full-upgrade that doesn't install anything
[18:01] <ioria> ii know
[18:05] <lotus|NUC> outoftime: pastebin inxi -Fr please
[18:06] <outoftime> lotus|NUC: what?
[18:06] <lotus|NUC> outoftime: to see some info about your system
[18:07] <outoftime> ioria: reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' right now
[18:07] <outoftime> lotus|NUC: reinstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' right now
[18:07] <Rboreal_Frippery> Hello, I am looking for a software for my Mother to help her record her piano playing video and audio to post online. She has a USB webcam and uses the built-in audio for input mic. We have tried to troubleshoot guvcview for over a month now with constant issues. (Audio desync, video file does not navigate, program freezes and stops recording after about 20 minutes, etc) I am looking for any alternative to suggest to her because we are both
[18:07] <Rboreal_Frippery> pretty untrusting of guvcview at this point. Does anyone have any suggestions?
[18:07] <ioria> outoftime, ok, the i suggest to install the hwe
[18:07] <ioria> *then
[18:09] <outoftime> ioria: "Errors were encountererd while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.7+dfsg-5ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[18:10] <outoftime> ioria: and one more: sni-qt_0.2.7+16.04.20170217.1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[18:10] <pc_magas> Greedings community I wave this following question why on Unity/KDE/GMOME etc etc I can shutdown the computer without root access whilst on terminal the shutdown command needs root access?
[18:10] <ioria> !info libqtcore4 xenial
[18:10] <outoftime> lotus|NUC: looks like I have no inxi
[18:12] <ioria> outoftime,  apt-cache policy libqtcore4  | termbin.nc 9999
[18:12] <outoftime> 8dog
[18:13] <ioria> outoftime,  apt-cache policy libqtcore4  | termbin.com 9999
[18:13] <ioria> sorry
[18:13] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/8dog
[18:14] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo apt clean && sudo apt autoclean
[18:15] <outoftime> ioria: done
[18:15] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo apt update && sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[18:16] <ioria> brb in 10 min
[18:16] <outoftime> ioria: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[18:17] <ioria> do it
[18:17] <ztychr> Hello. I just spilled a little water on my laptop. Wiped it off, and now a voice reads out loud LITERALLY everything. Every key i press and every program I open. While having quite a laugh, I'd really like to turn this guy off now. Can anyone help?
[18:17] <NSA_Spy> Hello! I want to mount a usb Ubuntu root system on another machine but when I mount the casper-rw file all it has is a lost+found folder.
[18:17] <NSA_Spy> My question is: Where is the try Ubuntu root system on the usb?
[18:18] <outoftime> ioria: wanted to install same libqtcore4 but same error occurs as during ubuntu-desktop reinstall
[18:23] <pmeijer85> hello, is there any way to enable ssh access when my server drops in emergency mode ?
[18:26] <gpunk> you ll have to start networking and sshd manually
[18:27] <pmeijer85> aw that to bad, no way to auto enable starting it?
[18:28] <outoftime> pmeijer85: auto turn on machine of software?
[18:31] <ioria> outoftime,  what error exactly ?
[18:31] <outoftime> ioria: how to redirect error stream to | nc termbin ?
[18:32] <ioria> outoftime,  commad  | nc termbin 9999
[18:32] <ioria> outoftime,  commad  | nc termbin.com  9999
[18:32] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/h0d3
[18:33] <ioria> outoftime,  what command you issued ?
[18:33] <Akegata> Hi, I upgraded my thinkpad to 18.04 the other day. After the upgrade, the synaptics drivers won't load anymore. When I run 18.04 from a live usb I can get synaptics to work though, but I cannot figure out what's blocking it on my regular install. Any ideas?
[18:34] <ioria> outoftime, and you see the  '332 not fully installed' ?
[18:34] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/6wn7
[18:35] <outoftime> ioria: yes, now I see it.
[18:35] <ioria> outoftime, ok, but what was the cmd you typed to get that output ?
[18:36] <outoftime> ioria: added -y to autoconfirm yes
[18:36] <ioria> outoftime, i don't get you
[18:37] <outoftime> ioria: `sudo apt-get -f -y install | nc termbin.com 9999`
[18:37] <ioria> ok
[18:38] <ioria> outoftime,   sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite  /var/cache/apt/archives/libqtcore4_4%3a4.8.7+dfsg-5ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[18:42] <outoftime> ioria: dpkg: error processing arcive <path> (--install): cannot access arcive: No such file or directory Errors were ecrountered while processing: <path>
[18:43] <ioria> outoftime,  you mistyped , try again please
[18:43] <outoftime> ioria: corrected
[18:44] <ioria> outoftime,  and ?
[18:45] <outoftime> ioria: dpkg: error processing package libqtcore4:amd64 (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[18:45] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo apt-get -f install
[18:45] <outoftime> ioria: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libqtcore4:amd64: libqtcore4:amd64 depends on qtcore4_l10n; however: Package qtcore4_l10n is not configured yet
[18:46] <outoftime> ioria: should I still run -f install?
[18:46] <ioria> outoftime,  yes
[18:50] <outoftime> ioria: haven't noticed any warnings/errors
[18:51] <outoftime> ioria: do you know how to scroll up in tty mode?
[18:51] <outoftime> ioria: I saw line "Setting up ubuntu-desktop.."
[18:52] <ioria> outoftime,  just run sudo apt install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop   again and check the errors
[18:53] <outoftime> ioria: there are autoremove message
[18:53] <outoftime> ioria: no erros/warnings
[18:53] <ioria> outoftime,  we don't care about autoremove unless your disk is full : check with   df -h
[18:54] <outoftime> ioria: 17G free
[18:54] <ioria> outoftime,  can you paste the outputs on termbin.com
[18:55] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/6f1s
[18:55] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:55] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/wnvh
[18:56] <outoftime> ioria: no output for this command
[18:56] <ioria> outoftime,  good
[18:56] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo reboot; you'll a text boot, no gui
[18:56] <ioria> *have
[18:58] <outoftime> ioria: black screen
[18:59] <ioria> outoftime,  you don't even get the bootstrap ?
[18:59] <outoftime> ioria: text from grub disapeared, and after few seconds it turns black
[19:00] <ioria> outoftime,  ctrl+alt +f1
[19:00] <outoftime> ioria: it is too black, looks like pixel hightlight is not working
[19:00] <outoftime> ioria: not response
[19:01] <outoftime> *no response
[19:03] <ioria> outoftime,  we can try with the hwe; recovery -> resume
[19:04] <outoftime> ioria: I'm in
[19:05] <ioria> outoftime,  udo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-16.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-16.04
[19:05] <ioria> *s
[19:06] <outoftime> ioria: 26 newly installed, 17 to remove
[19:06] <ioria> ok
[19:07] <outoftime> ioria: some dependecies are removed anyway...
[19:09] <outoftime> ioria: 4.15.0-34 added
[19:09] <ioria> yes
[19:10] <outoftime> ioria: done
[19:10] <ioria> outoftime,  cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:11] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/bcs8
[19:11] <destinydriven> Hey guys, I'm trying to upgrade nginx to 1.15.3 on xenial so I run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nginx/development to get the mainline version.   When I do sudo apt update . . . I'm not seeing any updates. I do see the new nginx-ubuntu-development-xenial.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory however
[19:11] <destinydriven> Am I missing a step or something?
[19:12] <destinydriven> I aslo tried removing nginx - sudo apt remove nginx and re-installing it but I get the same 1.14.0 version
[19:12] <outoftime> destinydriven: I'm using NVM
[19:12] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo apt autoremove --purge
[19:12] <destinydriven> NVM?
[19:13] <destinydriven> ioria, ok let me try this
[19:13] <outoftime> destinydriven: https://github.com/creationix/nvm
[19:13] <ioria> destinydriven, not for you
[19:14] <destinydriven> ioria, ok noted
[19:14] <outoftime> ioria: removed 3 packages
[19:14] <ioria> outoftime,  ok
[19:14] <destinydriven> outoftime, node version manager?
[19:14] <outoftime> destinydriven: you got the link
[19:15] <destinydriven> Yes but I don't see how it's relevant to me
[19:15] <ioria> outoftime,  then   sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target
[19:15] <destinydriven> I want to update nginx not node
[19:15] <outoftime> destinydriven: sorry, it is almost night
[19:16] <outoftime> ioria: done
[19:16] <ioria> outoftime,  reboot
[19:16] <outoftime> ioria: in recovery?
[19:16] <outoftime> destinydriven: have you tried to specify version?
[19:16] <ioria> outoftime,  nope, sudo reboot
[19:17] <destinydriven> outoftime, no I haven't
[19:17] <outoftime> ioria: boot again in recovery mode?
[19:17] <outoftime> destinydriven: try to install with verion specification
[19:17] <ioria> outoftime, i said: sudo reboot
[19:17] <destinydriven> outoftime, ok let me try this
[19:17] <outoftime> ioria: done
[19:17] <outoftime> ioria: I'm in grub
[19:18] <arTee> destinydriven, simple apt update, apt dist-upgrade?
[19:18] <ioria> outoftime, wait the timeout
[19:18] <outoftime> arTee: dist-upgrade? Why?
[19:18] <destinydriven> arTee, that's what I have been trying and I get 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:19] <destinydriven> Yes I did read that list-upgrade can be dangerous
[19:19] <destinydriven> dist*
[19:19] <outoftime> destinydriven: you can check update settings, there should be allow development versions or so
[19:19] <outoftime> ioria: I see login screen
[19:19] <arTee> destinydriven, did you import the signing key?
[19:19] <ioria> outoftime, deo gratias
[19:20] <destinydriven> arTee, I did
[19:20] <outoftime> ioria: 2 too man
[19:20] <arTee> outoftime, I'm used to using dist-upgrade :-)
[19:20] <destinydriven> wget https://nginx.org/keys/nginx_signing.key -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[19:20] <outoftime> ioria: I can see error message before unity loaded
[19:20] <arTee> destinydriven, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[19:20] <destinydriven> 16.04
[19:20] <ioria> outoftime, let me see
[19:21] <outoftime> ioria: just MessageBox with Ok button, have to relog to show you
[19:21] <outoftime> ioria: or maybe not
[19:22] <ioria> outoftime, what ?  check /var/crash
[19:22] <arTee> destinydriven, naaah... you need to import keys for the ppa I guess...
[19:22] <outoftime> ioria: first is about cupsd
[19:22] <FortKnight> destinydriven: did you apt update?
[19:23] <arTee> destinydriven, but add-apt-repository should take care of that
[19:23] <destinydriven> FortKnight, yup. I did all the seemingly basic things
[19:23] <ioria> outoftime,   la -al  /var/crash
[19:23] <ioria> outoftime,   ls -al  /var/crash
[19:23] <arTee> destinydriven, have you tried turning it off and on again? ;-) (joke)
[19:23] <destinydriven> I should add that is is on a digital ocean LEMP one-click installation
[19:24] <outoftime> ioria: 3 files there
[19:24] <destinydriven> If that helps.
[19:24] <ioria> outoftime,   cd /var/crash
[19:24] <destinydriven> I did the same steps on my local vagrant box and everything went fine
[19:24] <outoftime> ioria: libqtcore4.0.crash sni-qt.-.crash. _sr_sbin_cupsd.0.crash
[19:24] <ioria> outoftime,   cd /var/crash
[19:24] <arTee> destinydriven, have you tried running apt reinstall nginx=1.15.0 or similar?
[19:24] <destinydriven> arTee, sudo reboot now . .  uh huh
[19:24] <destinydriven> arTee, not yet
[19:25] <outoftime> ioria: http://termbin.com/8gdi
[19:25] <ioria> outoftime,   i know    cd /var/crash
[19:25] <outoftime> ioria: done
[19:25] <ioria> outoftime,   pwd
[19:26] <destinydriven> Reinstall is an invalid operation
[19:26] <outoftime> ioria: just as you sad, /var/crash
[19:26] <ioria> outoftime,  sudo rm -rif *
[19:26] <destinydriven> Ok I think I will give this a break and try in the morning
[19:26] <outoftime> ioria: done
[19:26] <ioria> outoftime, logout login
[19:28] <arTee> destinydriven, apt install nginx=1.15.0 then
[19:28] <outoftime> ioria: "drm redeon resume error" where during loggin out
[19:28] <arTee> destinydriven, gn
[19:28] <giggybyte> is there any way to see logs when trying to boot from an Ubuntu usb? currently the logo just spins forever and I'd like to find out why
[19:28] <ioria> outoftime,  a moment please
[19:28] <giggybyte> same behavior on try without installing and install
[19:28] <outoftime> ioria:  no crashes apears additionally
[19:28] <destinydriven> arTee, E: Version '1.15.0' for 'nginx' was not found
[19:29] <outoftime> ioria: maybe I have to restart to reproduce them
[19:29] <outoftime> ioria: also desktop appeared faster than first time
[19:31] <ioria> outoftime, ok, reboot
[19:31] <outoftime> giggybyte: have you choose "Try" button instead of "Install"?
[19:31] <giggybyte> yeah, I've gone both ways
[19:32] <outoftime> giggybyte: how long did you wait for it?
[19:32] <giggybyte> about five minutes
[19:32] <outoftime> giggybyte: how do you made liveusb?
[19:33] <giggybyte> dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4M status=progress
[19:34] <outoftime> ioria: I've got lots of "radeon" errors...
[19:34] <outoftime> ioria: on shutdown
[19:34] <ioria> outoftime, try to login
[19:36] <outoftime> giggybyte: sorry, never had problems with linux disto written with dd
[19:37] <outoftime> ioria: strange, no crashes
[19:37] <ioria> outoftime, ok,   sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:37] <outoftime> ioria: I mean it is good
[19:38] <ioria> outoftime, do the upgrade it will be '0' if we are good
[19:38] <outoftime> ioria: done, clean
[19:38] <outoftime> ioria: 0 errors/warnings
[19:39] <ioria> outoftime, very good
[19:39] <giggybyte> quick question, I'm gonna add nomodeset, does it go before or after "---" at the end of the "quiet splash" line?
[19:39] <outoftime> giggybyte: https://www.dell.com/support/article/ua/ru/uabsdt1/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en
[19:40] <giggybyte> thanks
[19:40] <outoftime> giggybyte: link provided by ioria
[19:41] <outoftime> ioria: that you for help with upgrading to 16.04
[19:41] <outoftime> ioria: how do you think is it safe to upgrade to 18.04?
[19:41] <outoftime> ioria: or I should at least try to fix radeon troubles?
[19:42] <ioria> outoftime, in my opinion; your system was already inconsistent; so you got it but a fresh install would be better
[19:45] <mustmodify> After upgrading to 18.04, I can't restart networking. https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/531e7d779ffcba336f7b53957d017f26
[19:46] <mustmodify> Any thoughts about what's wrong? The previous /etc/network/interfaces file also does not work, but at least I know what it was. :) And the new one actually allows me to startup and connect locally, but I can't access the net, which is why I tried to edit it by adding dns-nameservers... but that didn't work so I had to comment it out.
[19:49] <mustmodify> ping
[19:51] <outoftime> mustmodify: wait, I can not help you, you should wait for answer and ask again time to time
[19:51] <mustmodify> sure. I just wanted to make sure my messages were going out. This IRC client isn't the best. :)
[19:54] <outoftime> mustmodify: I'm using irssi or web.freenode from browser, never had problems
[19:58] <Dan0maN> oddly enough, hexchat works fine as well
[19:58] <Dan0maN> even when bouncing through znc
[20:00] <outoftime> Dan0maN: As vim lover, irssi is best choice if I have access to it.
[20:19] <Welastevil> hi ubuntu people!
[20:20] <Welastevil> some news about ubuntu new version?
[20:20] <hggdh> Welastevil: which one? 18.04, or (the in-deveolpment) 18.10?
[20:20] <Welastevil> 18.10
[20:21] <Welastevil> very sad with 18.04 because compiz doesnt wor anymore!!!!
[20:21] <Welastevil> thats so so sad...
[20:21] <hggdh> Welastevil: it is going good, about month to be released. #ubuntu+1 is the channel for it
[20:21] <Welastevil> the best feature was that!
[20:21] <mustmodify> Welastevil: I just installed 18.04. Non-fantastic experience.
[20:22] <Welastevil> neither
[20:22] <hggdh> Welastevil, mustmodify: anyway, this is not the channel for opinions.
[20:23] <Welastevil> ok...
[20:23] <Welastevil> jus asked.
[20:29] <outoftime> Welastevil: hate compiz because of 100% cpu load...
[20:31] <mustmodify> I need help rebuilding my network configuration.
[20:49] <outoftime> mustmodify: I had my EDID corrupted and I waited about 1.5 days for help. Then 2 days of work and it has been done. Also details will help too. Not too much, but to understand what you want.
[20:53] <CarlFK> outoftime: EDID corrupted?  curious what that means
[20:56] <okovko> is there anything special about configuring postfix as send only mail client on ubuntu running in a vm>
[20:56] <outoftime> CarlFK: That monitor not working right now, I have to replace high frequency condencer, maybe there are some more elements failed, but at least one. I suppose it was the problem, because EDID sequence was corrupted only in header
[20:57] <okovko> i got msmtp working instantly, but postfix won't work and i've tried like five different guides
[20:58] <outoftime> CarlFK: PM
[20:58] <SimonNL> and I was thinking there was a chip broke
[20:59] <madLyfe> so i renamed a filesystem and the drive mounts in the hidden state now..
[21:01] <madLyfe> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Rh4EVhAL/image.png
[21:02] <madLyfe> actually i have another internal drive that is mounted and hidden as well.
[21:03] <madLyfe> so its probably not because i renamed the filesystem on one drive.
[22:47] <fijidrummerboii> Hey guys; this may be unrelated but I want to install Ubuntu on a chromebook without Crouton or ChrUbuntu
[22:47] <fijidrummerboii> Can anyone help me with that? Like, I need a partition assistant for Chromebooks
[22:56] <FortKnight> why can't you create installation media and boot from it and install ?
[22:56] <FortKnight> letting the installer automatically / auto pilot  create partitions
[22:59] <kk4ewt> freedom?
[22:59] <kk4ewt> some people want to dual boot others do not
[23:02] <leftyfb> FortKnight: you can
[23:02] <leftyfb> FortKnight: it's called preseeding
[23:17] <gmh> Anyone that can help me figure out VPN not connecting. L2TP / ipsec. /w me - Ubuntu 18.04
[23:40] <jason0597> gmh: what's the issue?
[23:41] <CarlFK> im trying to make a screen shot of a gui app window that shows the mouse pointing at a menu option ...
[23:41] <CarlFK> ideally using the import command
[23:41] <gmh> jason0597: Can't connect and I have no idea why :P
[23:42] <FortKnight> gmh: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[23:43] <gmh> ssh to server, but yeah ssh connection is on computer
[23:43] <gmh> Trying to find out which phas1 / 2 algorithms I should use
[23:44] <FortKnight> gmh: in terminal>  journalctl|grep ovp|nc termbin.com 9999
[23:44] <FortKnight> gmh: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link...say so
[23:46] <gmh> https://pastebin.com/AAEGBErj
[23:46] <gmh> That is the output of querying vpn server for IKEv1 algorithm proposals from https://github.com/nm-l2tp/network-manager-l2tp/wiki/Known-Issues#querying-vpn-server-for-supported-ipsec-ikev1-ciphers
[23:47] <FortKnight> gmh: that's not what i asked for ...but if you wanna independently freestyle...good luck
[23:47] <gmh> I need to know what to put in phase 1 and phase 2 algorithm
[23:48] <FortKnight> gmh: who is your vpn provider?
[23:48] <gmh> private vpn at work
[23:48] <FortKnight> gmh: you should probably consult corporate IT / help desk for assistance tele working
[23:49] <gmh> Lack of linux experience. Works fine on windows :)
[23:49] <FortKnight> oh corp IT / help desk straight up told you they don't/ won't support Linux@work?
[23:50] <gmh>  They said they have no experience with it, but if I have issues connecting from Windows they could debug.
[23:50] <outoftime> CarlFK: I'm using shutter to make such screenshots
[23:52] <gmh> I've tried to mimmick the Windows settings tho enabling CHAP and MSCHAPv2, same pre-shared key ofc.
[23:53] <gmh> I am just stuck at trying to figure out this phase1 and phase2 algorithm part
[23:53] <gmh> Not that querying the vpn servered helped me much as I dont understand the result I got :P
[23:59] <CarlFK> outoftime: shutter looks pretty cool - any idea how I get it to grab the window when I have a drop down menu selected ?