[00:00] miceiken: Advanced options, I mean. [00:09] is there an easy way of injecting a package as installed, without actually installing it ? [00:09] WoC: why? [00:11] libgles1 & nvidia-340 have conflicting files and i need to inject libgles1 as installed [00:11] and i cant remove nvidia-340 [00:11] that would have me with no gfx driver [00:12] And nouv* is useless for me [00:16] suggestions tgm4883 ? [00:18] WoC: Still not clear what you're after here. Do you need libgles1 to show as installed because it's the dependency for something else or do you need the files that are in libgles1 actually installed even though some are in nvidia-340 [00:19] yup, deps [00:20] so it seems i either fake an installed libgles1, or switch to a different distro [00:20] WoC: looks like you might be able to use a command like this sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install --reinstall [00:21] k, ty trying [00:21] which I would think would overwrite the files in nvidia-340 with the ones in libgles1, but I suppose this could break things [00:22] hi all, I heard there is a place that will give me a temporary server to log into, do you know if that exists? [00:22] agile_prg: AWS? [00:23] I guess so, not sure [00:23] agile_prg: well AWS does have servers that you could spin up and log into, and there's a free tier if you haven't used them before [00:24] hmm... ok [00:25] amazon aws free option is still "metered" so depending on the intended application you might still get a bill [00:25] ty tgm4883 looks like working with the same for nvidia-340 after, so it still have the right files [00:25] good luck [00:26] WoC: cool, glad that worked for yo [00:26] I am ubuntu hell, I try to do apt-get install and it says things like: The following packages have unmet dependencies: but is not going to be installed [00:26] \/\/underbar ;] [00:27] agile_prg, i guess you too have nvidia gfx? [00:27] agile_prg: you should start with how you got in this situation [00:28] agile_prg: and the version of ubuntu you're runnin [00:28] g [00:30] ok [00:35] agile_prg: sooooo... did you actually want help? [00:37] sorry got interrupted, here I go, forgive me [00:47] ubuntu wily 15.10 [00:48] I think I added a repository, tried to install something and it messed up all the dependencies [00:49] !16.10 | agile_prg [00:49] agile_prg: Ubuntu Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) was the 25th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 20th, 2017. See !eol and https://ubottu.com/y/yakkety [00:49] https://pastebin.com/ApVvdpVv [00:49] that is the pastbin of what I am seeing [00:50] well I am open to suggestions on how to proceed [00:51] agile_prg: that's a weird log [00:51] agile_prg: post ' lsb_release -a ' output . [00:52] !eolupgrade | agile_prg first read this, as wily is long since dead [00:52] agile_prg first read this, as wily is long since dead: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [00:54] agile_prg: install 18.04 and restore from backup. That is your best option and probably the only one you're going to get any help with here. [00:54] here is what lsb_release -a https://pastebin.com/arKyFTaT [00:54] restore from a backup to where exactly? [00:55] agile_prg: install 18.04. Then copy your files back from the backup you have or are planning to make [00:56] agile_prg: if you don't have any backups, then your data isn't important, so that makes things a bit simpler. Just install Ubuntu 18.04 and you'll be good to go. [00:56] agile_prg: good luck [01:02] I wish I could install it without deleting everything :< [01:03] agile_prg: you could, but it'll be a lot easier to just restore from backup [01:04] well ok === cshep is now known as platonical [01:28] You should change the topic into 'restore from backup' [01:38] gorginator: Are you suggesting that people should not keep backups? [01:38] not at all [01:39] restoring from backup is still a pain in the a* when you have to reinstall all kind of programs [01:40] 'just restore from backup' isn't always so easy [01:40] even if you have a backup of the files [01:40] gorginator: agile_prg is running a version which went out of support 3 years ago. To do an in-place upgrade across 5 versions of ubuntu will take hours upon hours and leave you in a very unstable state. [01:40] gorginator: copying a /home directory and running apt-get on a handful of package names is pretty easy [01:41] sure if you only have to run apt-get [01:41] (you also gave me the advise to restore from backup) [01:42] gorginator: there's a reason why we only support installing applications via apt or snap. Anything else is obviously going to take longer and more complicated since it's usually compiling from source. [01:42] gorginator: right, because you were running an unsupported version of ubuntu [01:43] gorginator: there are ways to do fresh installs over old installations and still keep your files. But it'll be a lot quicker and cleaner to just install from scratch and restore. [01:44] if you have a backup, files aren't the issue, it's the programs [01:44] and system settings [01:45] gorginator: again, sudo apt install [01:45] gorginator: settings are stored in your home directory [01:45] also like mime settings? [01:46] gorginator: if you're doing more advanced settings such as in /etc, then just make a backup of /etc as well. I use my laptop more than most and my /etc is 30MB. It'll take under a minute to back it up. [01:50] though I do not suggest just copying that backup directly back to /etc. It's meant for reference to reconfigure any files you need to modify. [02:07] Hello! can anyone recommend a set of earbuds/very light weight headphones that are bluetooth, microphone, and work well with lubuntu? [02:07] #javascript [02:09] Galactor_: any of them should work with ubuntu. If you want recommendations on hardware try #hardware [02:17] does anyone happen to have a bionic or trusty or xenial live session running atm and could copy the "ubuntu" user line from /etc/passwd for me? [02:19] gorginator, user-specific MIME settings are in ~/.local/share/mime/ usually [02:20] Sven_vB: You could boot a live session using a virtual machine [02:21] Galactor_, I can recommend using separate bluetooth audio receivers where you plug in your traditional earphones. that way you can keep them in your ear when you change the low-battery receiver for the one you've just recharged. ;) [02:22] leftyfb, that's my fallback plan. :) [02:23] fallback [02:24] Sven_vB: ubuntu:x:999:999:Live session user,,,:/home/ubuntu:/bin/bash [02:24] gorginator, thanks! [02:48] does anyone here use brotli [02:53] Netwolf: are you taking a survey? [02:54] leftyfb: maybe. Just asking if anyone has it enabled. I just did and was looking for anyone else that uses it [02:55] Netwolf: This is a support channel. If you have a support question, please detail the issue you are having. Otherwise, conduct surveys or general discussions in #ubuntu-offtopic [02:55] ah sorry [03:10] hi, ive got an external drive, what partition should i [03:10] format it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk [03:10] manager software? [03:11] hi, ive got an external drive, what partition should i [03:11] format it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk [03:11] manager software? [03:16] ive got an external drive, what partition should iformat it to work best with lubuntu? and whats a good disk manager software? [03:17] !patience | vegombrei [03:17] vegombrei: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [03:24] !eatme | krytarik [03:37] vegombrei: please don't. We do follow a code of conduct here. [03:46] i'm configuring postfix incorrectly and i'm not sure where to get started debugging it. i don't have any meaningful output when i send myself an email; it just doesn't go through. how can i probe what it's actually doing? === imsurit1 is now known as imsurit_off [04:27] I'm recompiling a kernel. Is there some easy method of appending a CONFIG_LOCALVERSION to my custom kernel using debian/rules makefile that I'm just completely missing? manually editing config.common* just results in a broken build. === CyberHacker__ is now known as CyberHacker [04:30] oh. nvm. Found just the right wiki page. === capella|away is now known as capella === nisankh is now known as Guest23803 [05:35] I’m running Ubuntu 16.04 and when at the login screen it’s different now, it says Ubuntu14 and the login prompt also changed. Any idea how to change this? === granttrec is now known as rusty1 [05:42] !ping [05:42] pong! === imsurit_off is now known as imsurit_ofc [06:05] rz1a, the login or greeter screen is dictated by display manager usually (lightdm, gdm3 etc), some allow you to change backgrounds, display text - so it could be consequence of a change to your config at some time; `lightdm` is default of 16.04 with `unity-greeter` - and this may help changing the text/login-greeter config (if it's that) https://askubuntu.com/questions/797845/how-do-i-change-the-login-screen-in-ubuntu-16 [06:05] -04 [06:20] https://preview.ibb.co/b4LQSU/Screenshot_from_2018_09_22_22_56_15.png [06:20] how do i delete the file icon and the 0ad icon in activities? [06:22] i can't right click and remove as favorites [06:24] ZaZaQR: thats something you installed thats not going away? [06:24] yup [06:24] ZaZaQR: can you recall the packagename? [06:25] 0ad [06:25] on snap [06:25] ZaZaQR: did you try to remove the snap from terminal? [06:25] i believe so [06:27] people is ubuntu a rolling release? [06:27] ZaZaQR: sudo snap remove 0ad [06:27] snap "0ad" is not installed [06:28] ZaZaQR: did you already remove it? [06:28] ye [06:28] yes [06:29] ZaZaQR: did you reboot after remove yet? [06:29] no i did not [06:29] ZaZaQR: can you try? perhaps its still in memory [06:29] acresearch: no [06:30] !updates | acresearch [06:30] !upgrade | acresearch [06:30] acresearch: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [06:31] so the file icon is gone on the buttom. [06:32] !yay | ZaZaQR [06:32] ZaZaQR: Glad you made it! :-) [06:32] but i can't remove the big icon [06:32] how do i check how much disk space is partitioned for /home [06:32] in the show applications button [06:32] on 18.04 LTS where is the log of suspend/hibernate ? [06:32] ZaZaQR: still there? [06:32] yes [06:33] lotuspsychje_: because i read on distro watch that snapshot cosmic is a rolling release (not sure what snapshot cosmic is) [06:33] ZaZaQR: did you install from gnome software or terminal snap? [06:33] terminal snap [06:33] ZaZaQR: ok not sure then, maybe try a system cleanup with bleachbit, it still got leftovers? [06:34] acresearch, Ubuntu releases are not rolling; releases come out every six months (april & october) with one a LTS or long-term-support once every two years [06:35] egh [06:36] guiverc: ok [06:37] I'm unable to ping a machine(A) from one specific machine(B), both are ubuntu machines , how to debug ??? A is accessible from any machine except B, B can access any machine except A. it all happened after doing 'docker-machine create' , afaik it does some network changes .... [06:42] Hello everybody, i am trying to install ubuntu on a disk that allready have 4 used primary partitions. Is it posible to convert the last partition as logical? or i must back up data, delete and create new logical? Thank you all. [06:44] wendico, you can't convert a primary to extended (without re-creating it & loosing data) to my knowledge... gpt (guid partition table) however allows >4 [primary] partitions [06:47] guiverc: how can i check if posible on gparted if i have or not a guid partition table? Im on gparted on the affected machine. Thank you very much. [06:48] Device information says: Partition Table: msdos [06:49] wendico, you don't have gpt given it said 'msdos' :( so 4 is your 'max' [06:50] may i convert that msdos to gpt? all my file systems on the partitions are ext2, swap and ext4, im not using dos or windows [06:51] so i could then shrink the 4th partition and create more [06:53] msdos in that case does not have a relationship to msdos/windows, just the partition table compatible with old msdos/windows -- you'd have to create a gpt partition-table which would destroy the mbr/msdos/partition-table wiping your data - i'm not aware of any means to 'convert' [06:55] Thank you very much so, if not planned to use dos or windows, would you recommend to back up my partitions, wipe disk and create a new gpt partition table? im going to need only ext2, swap, ext3 and ext4 file systems. [07:01] wendico, your choice; backup always a good idea!! so first step regardless of what you do is backup. you could delete only what you need to create the required space, then re-create as extended as originally asked allowing an extra one; or re-do them all - whatever best fits your needs [07:06] guiverc, thank you very much, full back up in progress. is there more advantages than having more than 4 primary partitions on a gpt partition table? so i can decide if start over or just delete my 4th primary partitions? Thank you in advance [07:07] could you point me to a link where i can learn easy about gpt partitions tables. I am planning to install androidx86 on that machine (never dos or windows) so i want to make sure what partition table i should use that it is compatible with android [07:07] i can't think of any (advantages for >4 partitions); i think of gpt's advantage as >2tb primarily [07:08] guiverc: thank you very much, then you just solved my problem and i took decision, my disk is very small hehe. [07:09] so im going for the easy fast option of just delete 4th partition and make extended leaving msdos partition table. Thank you very much again [07:10] i'm not aware of any good/great howto/wiki/guides on partitioning (esp. gtp) sorry [07:11] guiverc, dont worry more, since my disk is very small, i will just keep my msdos partition table [07:12] wendico, take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gdisk#Convert_between_MBR_and_GPT -- it mentions converting mbr to gpt !! (gdisk, sgdisk... but I've not used them) [07:12] guiverc, and thank you very much anyways [07:12] guiverc, i take a look while back up ends, i always want to know more [07:12] you're most weltall wendico (i'd stick with mbr too; sticking with what I know..) [07:14] new question (while backing up) im trying to make a bootable usb with more than one iso, i tryed to install unetbootin on my ubuntu 18 machine but somehow that app does not work on my machine. Do you know any other app for my ubuntu 18 to make multi boot usb? thank you very much [07:15] not me sorry; maybe someone else will know wendico [07:16] guiverc, ^^^ ty, dont worry, ill wait for anybody else that have an answer. [07:16] wendico: https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ [07:16] ducasse, ^^^ thank you very much [07:17] wendico: you're most welcome [07:17] wendico: i can't comment on that tool as i've never used it, but i've seen people recommending it here === capella is now known as capella|away [07:20] Thank you very much, im on it [07:21] i used unetbootin years ago and worked very good, but trying that script asap [07:21] i dont want to bother trying to fix unetbootin [07:22] the advantage of unetbootin is that it has a large list of distros that can be selected, downloaded and installed from within the app [07:23] but i really dont care now, so im trying pendrivelinux. [07:34] wendico: let us know if it doesn't work, so we can look for something else [07:36] ill let you know asap for sure, the script allready on my desktop but im downloading iso files and making breakfast for my kids [07:38] priorities :) [07:38] downloading will be slow, so i wont be able to let you know soon, maybe half an hour or so, im on the mountain and have only 3g connection [07:38] ask lotuspsychje_ if you run into problems, he was the one who told me about it [07:42] how do i set up my ubuntu vm to have a static public ip? [07:42] ubuntu the holy grail... [07:42] i know i need to edit /etc/network/interfaces and it has something to do with my vm8 adapter on my host machine [07:42] but i'm confused about the details [07:43] which hypervisor are u using? there should be a setting to make it bridged instead of nat [07:45] TaZeR vmware player. will making it bridged let me ping it from outside my network? [07:45] it should just be seen like another pc on the network and get a dhcp ip, so yes [07:46] TaZeR my host machine has a dynamic ip i think, would that mean a bridged guest machine will have a dynamic ip as well? [07:46] okovko: which ubuntu version is this? [07:46] ducasse ubuntu 18.04 [07:46] host is win10 [07:46] okovko: then use netplan instead of the interfaces file [07:46] !netplan [07:46] Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/ [07:47] yea just make sure firewall is configured properly if ur running one, and use something like a free dyndns service [07:47] i have cron just automatically run a script later that updates my machine if my ip changes [07:48] https://freedns.afraid.org/ is the one i use [07:49] i grabbed a domain name from godaddy and i'm using cloudfare for the nameservers, i want to point it to my vm running on my win10 machine. i'm not sure where the dyndns service comes in if i'm doing that [07:50] isn't freedns.afraid.org similar to godaddy for grabbing name.afraid.org domain names? is the dyndns service another service that they offer? [07:54] TaZeR i disconnected there for a sec, if you've still got a second to help out :P i'm just trying to figure this stuff out for the first time [08:02] Question, (done some googling but might not be using the right terms), when I am switching consoles, from X to the terminal it looks like gnome is auto suspending my session, stopping music and anything running (not sure on that bit tho), I have disabled lock screen and power saving, but its still doing it, any ideas how to stop it at all? [08:18] TaZeR thanks for sending me in the right direction, i'm setting up dyndns through cloudfare [08:22] broyles, if I switch from my gui session to an unused terminal (ctrl+alt+f5 say), my music stops, but if i login at the text terminal as me, my music continues... (i know nothing more though sorry) [08:23] guiverc, ty :) going to have a dig around tho its something thats got my interest now :) === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman === Dreaman is now known as Blade === imsurit is now known as imsurit__ [08:44] Do you know how to encapsulate amule in a virtual machine or in a firewall to protect the host computer? [09:33] greenEarth: you just answered your question in your own words. Install the virtual machine, add a network interface not connected to the host, disable any sharing to the host then install your system and amule on the virtual machine [09:38] lenny_lemon: paste the file [09:39] sorry, I was reading an old message, forget me, please [09:45] enzotib: happens to the best of us <3 [09:45] im using instructions of this recommended link https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ but i cant run in terminal on terminal as showed on the pictures, i dont get the pop up window to run in terminal [09:45] what is the command so i can run that script straight from terminal? [09:47] so my question is, from terminal, how can i run the sh script to install the program on my ubuntu? thank you [09:51] I am having a problem connecting to my vps "ssh_excange_identification" connection closed by remote host [09:51] What should i do? [09:51] Please help [09:55] Problem happpened when i enable ufw [09:55] I installed nginx [09:55] Ubuntu 18.04x64 [09:57] Kristhian: i have joined lately , could you please mention your issue once more === addicted is now known as vanko [09:59] Im not able to connect to my vps "ssh_exchange_identification" connection closed by remote host - this happened after enabling ufw [10:00] Kristhian: ok , do you have any access to your vps provider control panel, and can you name your provider === imsurit__ is now known as imsurit === imsurit is now known as imsurit_ [10:02] Yes i have access to control panel and provider is vultr [10:02] Kristhain: remember UFW’s defaults are to deny all incoming connections and allow all outgoing connections. This means anyone trying to reach your cloud server would not be able to connect, while any application within the server would be able to reach the outside world. [10:03] Kristhian: you have to go through your VPS web control panel now , use web login to your VPS , than allow port 22 using UFW [10:04] Kristhian: name of your provider so that i have give you any further hint how to do so [10:05] Ok, ill take note of that === Blade is now known as BgLamersTeam [10:05] does anyone here have experience setting up a public ip for ubuntu running in vmware? [10:05] Provider name is vultr [10:05] i bridged the connection so my guest os is in my private network, and now i need it to be accessible from the internet [10:05] Kristhian: wait for a while [10:07] Ok [10:07] Kristhian: snapshot resetting can do the thing , but better go through web access give the root credetials and than configure UFW to allow port 22 as well as any other available services ( e.g http port 80 etc etc ) [10:08] Kristhian: in future before commiting anything to servers read the basics about setting things from here https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_18.04 , this is just a note keeping portal regarding server basic works [10:09] ssh should be port 22 by default [10:09] Thanks nisankhindia_, ill just do this in a computer [10:09] Im using my mobile phone atm [10:10] I can access console but couldnt type anything [10:11] Kristhian : have a PC .. for now take these notes as guide [10:11] Thanks again [10:15] okovko: set your network to bridged . Then set port forwarding in your router to send server traffic to the guest. If you don't have a router you can probably configure this using NAT [10:17] nisankhindia_ i want to host a server on my workstation laptop, so i want this to be independent of my router. i already set up dynamic dns, how i'm trying to figure out how i can get a public IP for my guest OS [10:17] now* i'm trying to figure out [10:18] okovko: Bridged mode means the VMware guest is an autonomous networked device on the LAN. Meaning it can be handled like any other (physical) networked device [10:19] https://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ does not work on fresh and updated ubuntu 18.04.1. The scrip just gives "Error xterm". Any clue? [10:20] do xhost + in your terminal as your own user [10:20] unless xterm is not installed [10:22] nisankhindia_ thanks for your help [10:24] gpunk.^^^ Done with echo "access control disabled...." Same error running pendrivelinux sh "Error: xterm" [10:24] is xterm installed? [10:24] xterm not installed, just doing it [10:24] ty [10:24] :) [10:25] gpunk: awesome script running. ty. [10:25] wlc === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman [10:57] any of you who have experienced that when using ubuntu netinstall it takes 5 seconds per file download attempt so it takes very long to complete the installation? [10:59] Apachez check latency (ping) between both machines, that may be your issue [11:00] nope 9.5ms [11:00] the issue seems to be the wget script in netinstall who will take 5 seconds to resolve each download [11:01] might be DNS related , can you reboot the router? [11:01] but there are no network issues once its resolved it goes fast to download [11:01] it seems to me a network related issue, dns, netbios names.... etc [11:01] how can I debug what the netinstall or rather wget is acutally trying to do? [11:01] other boxes on the same switch resolves fine [11:02] I would guess its somehow ipv6 related [11:02] tty2 says there is a linklocal v6 but I would guess wget still waits for something v6 related before giving up and go for v4 anyway [11:02] snort (check your packets transfers with sniffing software) [11:03] do you have any experiences with other netinstalls on the in the same network environment that do NOT take 5 seconds to resolve downloads??? [11:03] or just tcpdump, really no need to install the whole snort IDS...... [11:03] well only needed to netinstall ubuntu so far [11:03] unfortunately tcpdump isnt included in the mini.iso [11:03] so no experience to validate it being abnormal === jstein_ is now known as jstein [11:04] well the same box once isntalled works just fine [11:04] so we can rule out hardware, cable, routers etc [11:04] what remains is the behaviour of netinstall (mini.iso) and how wget does things [11:04] snort as hint, but u can use ethercap or similar lighter sniffing software [11:04] without any other experiences with netinstall to compare it to...could be functioning as designed [11:04] hmm [11:05] does wget have some nifty debug mode which isnt too obstructed? [11:05] Apachez: I'm not sure what the mini iso does specifically but perhaps you could temporarily configure /etc/resolv.conf to use your upstream resolvers directly, bypass systemd-resolved, which often seems to be causing issues. [11:05] blackflow: ill try thAT IN tty2 [11:05] after all you have nothing to directly compare this performance to or against ...keyword "directly" [11:05] exit [11:06] the /etc/resolv.conf shows correct nameservers so systemd doesnt seem to interfere there [11:06] FortKnight: well once installed everything is fine so I have that to compare again [11:06] st [11:06] apples vs oranges comparison [11:06] netinstall vs netinstall [11:07] well sure but this apple to apple compare rules out hardware malfunctions [11:07] will try debugging wget to hopefully see what its waiting for for each download [11:08] hi [11:08] hi [11:08] does anyone run ubuntu on dell inspiron 17 7000? [11:08] thinking of buying it wondering if linux runs on it well [11:09] https://certification.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4755/dmi:Inspiron177000Series7746/ [11:09] i have to configure dns server in lab, just a domain with couple of A/SRV records. Still bind is the most popular dns server? [11:10] yup [11:10] so something is fishy with resolving in netinstall [11:11] Apachez: did you try manually wgetting a packge from another tty? [11:12] anyone know of a way to synchronize photos between an android phone and an ubuntu system? [11:13] _without_ detour via "the cloud" [11:16] ppf: did you try it with Shotwell? I think it is mtp aware and can do "sync" -- assuming you don't mean just "copy over", as that it definitely can. plus you can use the file manager. [11:17] blackflow: i was looking more for a permanent backup type solution [11:18] ppf: mobile apps are all about cloud. if you don't want cloud, then plug in + copy over is "a way". I don't know if there's any software that can do that automatically when you plug your phone in [11:18] blackflow: yup.. I can clearly see how it hangs for 5 seconds in "resolving" before getting the answer, but other boxes gets answer instantly [11:18] I am now trying to boot the netinstall with ipv6.disable=1 and see how that will affect wget [11:18] i'm not looking for a way to do it when the phones plugged in, but always-on [11:19] ppf: and you can always script up a solution with rsync that does that. plug your phone in, and run a rsync script that syncs up (not just copy over but "sync" as in delete what's missing on source) [11:19] ppf: maybe something based on syncthing? google says there's an android app [11:20] interesting, i hadn't even consided! [11:20] fwiw i'm using syncthing already for the local network backup :D [11:20] (not on the phone though) [11:20] ppf: but in general, if you don't want "cloud", you'll have to make your own cloud. always-on, not only when plugged in, requires a server running somwhere, ergo your own personal cloud. [11:21] sure, i can do that [11:21] Apachez: can't apt install tcpdump on mini iso's root? [11:21] maybe 'sometimes-on' is nicer though [11:21] i.e. only sync with the server at home, not the ones on the internet [11:21] Apachez: it should be a regular ubuntu root fs, albeit in ram iirc [11:22] ppf: syncthing or see if nextcloud has an android app, and I think I saw one [11:22] you can install nextcloud on your own server/machine [11:22] yeah, but nextcloud is not too happy generally when the other end isn't available [11:23] ppf: I'm not sure what you mean, as that's it primary purpose, for clients to be not available always. [11:23] doesnt seem to exist any apt-get [11:23] I mean, if there's an app, then there's a nextcloud _client_ app, which by design works in "not available always" mode [11:23] there is an apt-install but apt-install tcpdump didnt make any difference [11:24] Apachez: maybe wget in the .deb of tcpdump and install locall with dpkg -I [11:24] *locally [11:24] surely there's dpkg? [11:24] blackflow: i mean the server [11:25] assume i run the server at home, so the phones get to synch whenever they join the wifi [11:26] nope, no dpkg [11:26] those who created mini.iso at canonical sure made debugging hard :P [11:26] ipv6.disable=1 as kernelparam when booting doesnt seem to affect this behaviour [11:26] ppf: well in that case I don't know. it does sound weird that nextcloud would have issues with it, even its client app having issues with server being termporarily unavailable. isues other than "no server, can't run at the moment" kind, which is... normal. [11:27] ip addr verifies that there are no longer any v6 link local when booted with ipv6.disable=1 [11:27] Apachez: why even use mini. personally I carry the full blown ubuntu desktop iso around and use debootstrap to install servers :) but... that said, I'm not sure what you can do then. if you can't install tools and there aren't tools present already. [11:29] Apachez: also, resolving might be just a red herring. as it's the _first_ step in network comm, could be your ipv6 needs to re-negotiate every time a session is started, so resolving takes longer because it's the first thing wget does [11:29] blackflow: yes, syncthing is absolutely perfect for this [11:29] ppf: excellent :) [11:30] Apachez: tried forcing ipv4? [11:30] for wget? [11:31] I tried adding options timeout:1 in /etc/resolv.conf and that affects the wait for wget [11:31] https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/290987/resolving-hostname-takes-5-seconds [11:32] i've just created ... ' adduser myuser && passwd myuser ' . I can login as such on tty, but not on XFCE / X session ... what am i missing ? [11:32] blackflow: i'm just so confused i hadn't considered it .. [11:33] Apachez: right so perhaps try with ipv4 only? [11:35] Hello. Is there any chance to upgrade Ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04\18.04 without reinstalling? [11:35] blackflow: cause it just works [11:37] hey guys, the directory /var/www/html is owned by the root user, how can i give /var/www/ access to my user so i dont have to sudo everything i do on any website i do ? [11:37] you _can_, but you shouldn't [11:38] ppf, me? why not? [11:38] security [11:39] this is a local server, no access to/from the internet.. and isnt it more risky to run web apps and websites using root user? [11:39] blackflow: yeah, wget -4 http://idg.se will directly resolve [11:39] rather, you should set up some auto-deployment pipeline [11:39] Smokie: there's ~/public_html/ or ~/htdocs/ kind of a standard for those cases, configure the site to use those dirs, if you want regular user to change stuff there [11:39] the webapps aren't running as root, your nginx/apache has its own user [11:39] blackflow, this is only for me on a local isolated VM [11:40] ppf, yeah, but whatever changes i need to do there has to be done with 'sudo' [11:40] i mean the way it is right now [11:40] yes, and that's good [11:40] Smokie: right so do that. OR, put /var/www in your user group and set g+w on all dirs. need to sticky that too, for new files to inherit g+w [11:40] blackflow: while wget http://idg.se will hang for 5 seconds before going for the v4 address [11:41] Smokie: although developing sites under ~/public_html/ on a personal server / dev machine, is better. dont' change system default paths [11:42] Apachez: tcpdump would show stuff here. sounds like it's trying AAAA, hangs or doesn't get the answer, retries A, and in total takes longer. Just remove ipv6 then for the installation [11:42] blackflow, id do that using VirtualHost, right? [11:42] Smokie: for Apache? yes [11:43] Smokie: there's even a mod that understands http://blahblah/~user/ paths and automatically uses ~/public_html [11:43] s/paths/URLs [11:43] Smokie: mod_userdir [11:44] Smokie: however, that might break the web app if it's not expecting to be run under //~user/ so then yeah, VirtualHost directive mapping the dev domain of your choice to your ~/ [11:45] blackflow, ill read up on that [11:46] blackflow: how to do that? adding ipv6.disable=1 to kernel during boot of netinstall didnt help [11:46] seems like glibc or whatever is doing the resolving still tries v6 and timesout before going v4 [11:46] like old windows systems :( [11:46] Apachez: frankly, other than removing ipv6 from network config, I'm not sure [11:47] Apachez: ip addr del dev eth0_or_whatever_device_is_it [11:49] yeah but when booting with ipv6.disable=1 there is never a v6 interface setup [11:50] ip addr displays just v4 [11:50] will try manipulating my dns to see if replies only including v4 might resolve this, this wont help people using 8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4 but will resolve my issues at least [11:50] im trying to find a decent computer that will allow me to edit photos well [11:50] Apachez: so why would it try to resolve via ipv6? or hummm... yes... I think resolving will try AAAA always.... lemme check [11:50] using darktable [11:50] any suggestions [11:51] my 2013 macbook is starting to get long in the tooth [11:53] Hi. I want to restore some files from an (I think encrypted) dejadup backup. I selected the folder -> restore folder and dejadup opens. It finds my backup on my external drive. Then I select "forward" and Im on the "Restore.. Preparing" screen where nothing happens. [11:53] nvm, just as I wrote it worked. Seems like restoring takes time, even for just a few files. [11:54] blackflow: adding options single-request or options single-request-reopen seems to fix the behaviour [11:54] Apachez: right, gai.conf, try this: https://community.rackspace.com/products/f/public-cloud-forum/5110/how-to-prefer-ipv4-over-ipv6-in-ubuntu-and-centos [11:54] Apachez: oh that too, as it removes parallelization of A/AAAA [11:58]