[00:02] <outoftime> CarlFK: there are button that allows you to caprute screenshot of dropdown menu
[00:02] <outoftime> CarlFK: + you can set delay for screenshot
[00:02] <CarlFK> yeah - but its grabbing the whole desktop - trying to avoid having to pull it up in gimp to crop only just the window
[00:03] <CarlFK> the "just a window" doesnt' get the menyu
[00:04] <outoftime> CarlFK: there are other options, I did it before, but it was long time ago, do not remember how precisely.
[00:04] <CarlFK> k - this may be the only one I need this for... Ill edit it.
[00:05] <outoftime> CarlFK: shutter have editor out of the box
[00:06] <outoftime> CarlFK: or you can install it as plugin, I'm not sure
[00:06] <CarlFK> meh - I know gimp so..
[00:07] <outoftime> CarlFK: gimp is too much for such stuff, try shutter plugin, it is light and you do not need anything alse in most cases
[00:44] <chull> hi can anyone remind me please where to look to find the full volume?  "The Volume "boot" has only  5.8 MB disk space remaning.  You can free up disk space by removing unused programs or files, or by mounting files to another disk or partition."
[00:47] <fijidrummerboii> Well I can't do anything like that; school chromebook right?
[00:51] <FortKnight> chull: you might be able to free some space by removing/deleting older "unused" kernel versions
[00:53] <chull> FortKnight, yes but it needs more than the usual cleaning [sudo apt autoremove] sometimes
[00:53] <chull> and i forgot where
[00:56] <chalcedony> :)
[01:21] <ChiLLabiS> Anyone knows of a good and easy to use VNC server and client for Ubuntu?
[01:23] <toddc> ChiLLabiS: remmina client
[01:23] <ChiLLabiS> okay and a server then?
[01:24] <FortKnight> ChiLLabiS: a simple google / duckduckgo search would have told you this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[01:24] <toddc> checking 1 sec
[01:24] <ChiLLabiS> Okay sorry then. and thanks :)
[01:25] <toddc> vinagre is my current server
[01:26] <ChiLLabiS> Thank you toddc :)
[01:27] <toddc> looks like vino is the default server in desktop
[01:58] <cfhowlett> !ping
[02:18] <ChiLLabiS> Cool. Ubuntu/gnome has a vnc in settings->sharing. And Remmina is already installed. I've tried access my PC from my laptop and it works! :)
[02:23] <lidja007> what is a Remmina
[02:24] <ChiLLabiS> a program, a vnc viewer
[02:25] <lidja007> I am assuming I can achieve the same results from one Ubuntu client to another--like managing my kids computer...
[02:33] <hggdh> lidja007: it all depends on what type of management you want.
[04:52] <Aduree> hey guys
[04:52] <Aduree> id love some help
[04:52] <Aduree> im having trouble with pulse audio on ubuntu kde running on a chromebit
[04:52] <Aduree> all system sounds work
[04:52] <Aduree> but when i try and play a sound from my python program
[04:53] <Aduree> which is using kivy's sound
[04:53] <Aduree> it throws a permission error
[04:53] <Aduree> "Home directory not accessible: Permission denied"
[04:54] <Aduree> and when i run `pulseaudio`, it gives me an error saying: "pid.c: Daemon already running.", "main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed."
[04:55] <Aduree> please help if you have any idea what the issue is or if theres any other info you need to help
[04:55] <arTee> Aduree, have you read this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/338382/pulseaudio-not-working-home-directory-not-accessible-permission-denied
[04:56] <Aduree> ive read and tried absulutely everything
[04:56] <arTee> Aduree, second, check whether pulseaudio is running under your user
[04:56] <Aduree> ive spent many hours researching and have tried every single suggested fix
[04:56] <Aduree> ok how do i check that
[04:56] <arTee> Aduree, ps -ef | grep pulse
[04:57] <Aduree> ok one sec
[04:57] <friendlyGoat> heya
[04:57] <friendlyGoat> i have a rather simple question
[04:58] <friendlyGoat> im on Xubuntu but i think its universal, i have two sessions and im not sure how to get rid of the extra one. i have xubuntu-desktop and xfce-session and i was wondering how to get rid of xfce-session since i only use the xubuntu one
[05:02] <Aduree> @artee the first line outputs with aran_wit+
[05:03] <Aduree> when its meant to be my full name
[05:03] <Aduree> is this just it cutting off? or is it incorrect
[05:04] <Aduree> well, "aran_wi+"
[05:07] <Aduree> full output is: "aran_wi+ 12279 19747 0 14:58 pts/6 00:00:00 grep --color=auto pulse"
[05:08] <Aduree> "aran_wi+ 14068 738 11:52 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio -- start --log-target=syslog"
[05:10] <Aduree> sorry, i dont really know IRC conventions, this is my first time using irc
[05:10] <Aduree> its my last resort
[05:10] <Aduree> nothing i have tried as worked
[05:10] <Aduree> has*
[05:18] <friendlyGoat> anyone know about my question i posted earlier or should i repost it?
[05:20] <arTee> Aduree, and is it your user? you can try to kill that process via kill 14068 and run pulseaudio from hand
[05:23] <Aduree> well i dont want to say my full user as its my full name but "aran_wi+" is not my user
[05:23] <Aduree> would this just be it cutting it off because of the length?
[05:23] <Aduree> it is the user associated incorrect?
[05:23] <Aduree> because thats what it outputs
[05:24] <Aduree> ok ill try that thanks
[05:26] <Aduree> arTee, I tried killing it and running it again, and im still getting the same error
[05:27] <Aduree> would this have anything to do with the fact its on a partitioned chromebit?
[05:27] <Aduree> because i when i was trying to fix this issue previously, i completely reinstalled ubuntu on it and am still getting the error
[05:27] <Aduree> on a fresh install
[05:28] <Aduree> friendlyGoat, I'm not entirely sure but try "sudo apt-get --purge remove xfce-session"
[05:29] <Aduree> im quite new to linux
[05:32] <arTee> Aduree, sorry, not experienced with chromebit at all
[05:33] <Aduree> ah damn ok, appreciate the help
[05:33] <Aduree> im at a complete loss lol
[05:38] <friendlyGoat> Aduree, i think i tried that before but for some reason after that i couldnt log in anymore and had to reinstall it from command line
[05:39] <friendlyGoat> i might try again in a bit if nothing else bares fruit but thats what happened last time
[05:39] <Aduree> not sure sorry man, am fellow linux noob
[05:43] <arTee> friendlyGoat, I wouldn't remove xfce-session... you can do nasty hack and just rm /usr/share/xsessions/xfce.desktop
[05:44] <Aduree> does anyone else have any idea on what my issue could be? or have experience using ubuntu on the chromebit?
[06:27] <Aduree> does anyone else have any idea on what my issue could be? or have experience using ubuntu on the chromebit?
[06:27] <Aduree> oops
[06:27] <Aduree> does anyone here have experience with ubuntu on a chromebit?
[06:38] <servergeek> morning
[06:39] <servergeek> any ideas why livepatch would fail to start with a message like -> "cannot change profile for the next exec call: No such file or directory"
[06:39] <servergeek> ?
[06:39] <servergeek> running 18.04.1 with 4.15.0-34-generic
[06:45] <servergeek> fixed...snap remove && snap install livepatch ...
[06:45] <servergeek> and it's all good
[06:52] <Aduree> welp last attempt
[06:53] <Aduree> has anyone here worked with ubuntu running on a chromebit?
[07:06] <ducasse> Aduree: what's a chromebit - is that an arm device?
[07:19] <ace_me> I have hundreds of these errors in varlog sep 24 10:17:...  org.gnome.Shell.desktop[7138]: [9940:9940:0924/101759.152375:ERROR:gl_surface_presentation_helper.cc(161)] GetVSyncParametersIfAvailable() failed!
[07:20] <ace_me> any hint to fix them please ?
[07:20] <ace_me>  journalctl -f -n20 show every few tns seconds new lines of that coming out ... :(
[07:22] <Aduree> ducasse, a chromebit is a small usb device which is a computer running chromeos
[07:23] <al2o3-cr> Aduree: but it's arm architecture tho.
[07:23] <Aduree> yes
[07:30] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: I assume its an issue specific to your video driver
[07:32] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: as error indicates about Vertical Sync
[07:36] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: run firefox using terminal , as " firefox --noprofile " and look for the messages what it shows
[07:37] <ducasse> Aduree: if it's an arm device, try asking in #ubuntu-arm - they might be better able to help
[07:38] <linux> hi guys ,does latest ubuntu support PCIe ssd drives?thanks
[07:38] <Aduree> alright, thanks, ill try tomorrow, heading home now
[07:40] <nisankhindia_> linux: yes it does ... any issue!
[07:41] <linux> find contradictory infos on the subject ,just want to be sure before bying laptop
[07:43] <nisankhindia_> linux: all supports just sometimes behaves differently
[07:43] <wrksx> hello there
[07:44] <linux> so the asnwer is ,it might work?
[07:44] <nisankhindia_> linux: for general users it works ,you can not see any differences
[07:44] <lotus|NUC> linux: the best way to test is try a liveusb ubuntu on your hardware, if everything works= physical install
[07:45] <nisankhindia_> linux: you will not get any issue while using ssd pCie devices
[07:45] <lotus|NUC> wrksx: welcome, how can we help you?
[07:45] <wrksx> I'd like to install gcc 7 on ubuntu 16.04, how should I proceed ? It's not available in the std repo I suppose
[07:45] <linux> big thanks !!
[07:45] <nisankhindia_> linux: as NVME in box supported by linux or it's all distros
[07:46] <lotus|NUC> !latest | wrksx
[07:46] <wrksx> wut
[07:47] <wrksx> !backports
[07:47] <lotus|NUC> wrksx: it means, we advice to use the package versions for your specific ubuntu version
[07:47] <wrksx> I guess I'll find it in backports
[07:47] <nisankhindia_> wrksx: https://gist.github.com/jlblancoc/99521194aba975286c80f93e47966dc5
[07:47] <wrksx> thx lotus|NUC, will have a look
[07:47] <linux> now is there a way to manually create an encrypted LVM with ubuntu installer ,to have separate lvm partitions for home tmp var ,with only one luks password at boot ?it works with debian but I don t find a way to do it with ubuntu
[07:48] <wrksx> nisankhindia_, ty. what is that repo ?
[07:48] <shayla> Hi everyone. I'm using ubuntu 16.04 gnome. I've got a problem with disk space, today I examine the situation and I get that I have 46GB used by /var/lib/gdm3
[07:48] <shayla> Is that right?
[07:49] <wrksx> untrusted PPA ?
[07:50] <wrksx> seems scary
[07:51] <nisankhindia_> shayla: run command " du -sh /var/lib/gdm3 " and show the output here
[07:51] <shayla> It seems Xorg.0.log.old it's about 43GB
[07:51] <shayla> nisankhindia_ 43G	/var/lib/gdm3
[07:52] <nisankhindia_> shayla: thst a log file which generaly located in /var/log/
[07:52] <nisankhindia_> shayla: you may or can delete the file
[07:55] <shayla> That's ok, I will remove that but just to know it's a log file for what? 43GB seems that something went wrong xD
[07:56] <nisankhindia_> shayla: size of a file is not a sign that something wrong , read the log and activities than only you can say there is something wrong
[07:56] <shayla> That's ok, thank you nisankhindia_
[07:57] <linux> is ext4 supported on PCIe ssd drive? thanks
[07:58] <nisankhindia_> linux: first read what is ext4 , a file system and read what is SSD drive : a storage mechanism with no mechanical part  . now try to find out yourself ..
[07:59] <wrksx> nisankhindia_, awsome ressource thanks =)
[07:59] <linux> thanks for the arrogance ,but it was known in the beginning that it wasnt supported
[08:00] <nisankhindia_> linux; it is not arrogance , i have given you the way how you can find something which you dont know
[08:00] <ace_me> nisankhindia_: (firefox:8292): Gtk-WARNING **: 10:56:04.648: Theme parsing error: <data>:1:34: Expected ')' in color definition
[08:01] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: what graphics card are you using ???
[08:02] <ace_me> is a asus laptop k95vj
[08:02] <ace_me> onboard
[08:02] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: do your system setting says Tearing prevetion is on / off / atomatic .
[08:02] <nisankhindia_> ace_me:check the OpenGL status using settings
[08:03] <ace_me> how to do these please ?
[08:04] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: open your settings and look for the options
[08:05] <ace_me> Graphics: Intel® Ivybridge Mobile
[08:06] <ace_me> was this what you asked nisankhindia_  ?
[08:07] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: lets start from begining , whats your Distribution ?? ubuntu version
[08:07] <ace_me> I see no options tab
[08:07] <ace_me> ubuntu 18.04
[08:07] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: based on Gnome or KDE or what ???
[08:08] <ace_me> is it displayed anywhere ?
[08:08] <ace_me> have no idea
[08:09] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: from where you open the application  menu
[08:09] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: top left or somewhere else
[08:09] <ace_me> right bottom
[08:09] <ace_me> but I usually press flag on keyboard and I add them to favourites
[08:10] <wrksx> guys, do I really need to install deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-toolchain-r/ppa/ubuntu xenial main
[08:10] <wrksx> I mean it contains sources only right ?
[08:10] <wrksx> what would be the reason to install a deb-src repo
[08:10] <nisankhindia_> wrksx: you have added the PPA right ??? so do not edit it yourself let the apt command do it
[08:11] <wrksx> nisankhindia_, no I don't
[08:11] <wrksx> I don't have the software-prop-common
[08:11] <wrksx> so I don't have add-apt-repo command
[08:11] <wrksx> but I'm fine installing it in the src list
[08:11] <wrksx> I'm just wondering about the deb-src part
[08:12] <ace_me> nisan in the apps list I see gnome power
[08:12] <ace_me> probably I am on gnome
[08:12] <ace_me> nisankhindia_: ^
[08:12] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: look for seetings
[08:13] <nisankhindia_> now
[08:13] <ace_me> I did opened settings
[08:13] <ace_me> dock, notifications ...ans so on
[08:13] <ace_me> there is no opengl setting
[08:14] <ace_me> should I have there a Opengl too nisankhindia_ ?
[08:14] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: look for your graphics settings
[08:15] <Galactor> Hello! I was wondering how does one access /connect bluetooth devices in i3wm?
[08:15] <nisankhindia_> ace_me:  "smooth scrolling" option in the Settings
[08:15] <ace_me> there is no such an entry beside in display tab where I do have both monitior I am using and where I can set the resolution
[08:15] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: Adjust openGL too
[08:16] <ace_me> there is I mean a Device tab where I can see and extend monitors
[08:16] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: cd /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[08:17] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: than look for config file related to intel
[08:17] <ace_me> ok
[08:17] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: if you can see something like 20-intel.config
[08:17] <ace_me> nothing there like 20-intel
[08:18] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: what are the files present there
[08:18] <wrksx> so what is the purpose of a deb-src repo ?
[08:18] <ace_me> 10-amdgpu.conf,10-nvidia.conf,10-quirks.conf,10-radeon.conf,20-nvidia-prime.conf,20-displaylink.conf,40-libinput.conf,70-wacom.conf,
[08:18] <ace_me> nisankhindia_: ^
[08:20] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: install your GPU driver properly
[08:21] <ace_me> have no idea how .... lucky it works like this then
[08:21] <ace_me> thought it auto-detect or so
[08:21] <ace_me> but seems it is not
[08:21] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: " sudo ubuntu-drivers devices "
[08:21] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: " sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall "
[08:22] <ace_me> I see there some GF108M
[08:22] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: run command " sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall "
[08:23] <ace_me> and I remember I did selected once from additional drivers somewhere and the x did not start after next reboot and hat to swithc somehow back to xorg drivers or so
[08:23] <ace_me> but I did not run the command above...
[08:24] <ace_me> could you remind me how t oswitch back if I will arrive in terminal after reboot ?
[08:24] <ace_me> please :)
[08:26] <ace_me> nisankhindia_: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9qvGw7zcjy/
[08:27] <ducasse> wrksx: you use the src repo if you want to rebuild some of the packages or inspect the source etc
[08:27] <ace_me> ok... going to reboot just to be sure
[08:28] <ducasse> wrksx: for example you might want to rebuild a package with other options, or apply a patch etc
[08:28] <ace_me> thank you and hope to work after reboot
[08:29] <wrksx> ducasse, alright, just what I thought. Thnaks for the help
[08:30] <ducasse> wrksx: np
[08:31] <nisankhindia_> acce_me: than using nvidia panel adjust the options
[08:37] <quxgyver> Stallman's Blessings upon you.
[08:37] <quxgyver> Coder's greetings.
[08:38] <quxgyver> Can someone explain what an "executable file" is
[08:38] <quxgyver> in the context of Ubuntu
[08:38] <quxgyver> cus the system isn't showing me a filetype
[08:38] <quxgyver> and terminal won't recognize them as files from what i can see
[08:38] <Bx1MNG> hey guys
[08:38] <Bx1MNG> need to decrypt
[08:38] <Bx1MNG> MTExMDAwMTAxMTExMDAwMDExMDEwMDAxMTEwMTAwMTAxMDAxMTAxMDExMTExMDAwMTExMTAxMDExMTEwMTAwMDExMDAwMDExMTEwMDAxMDAxMTAwMTAxMTExMDExMDAwMTEwMTAwMTExMTExMDEwMTExMTAwMDAxMTAwMTEwMDExMTAxMDAxMTExMDEwMTEx
[08:39] <Bx1MNG> How to decrypt this?
[08:40] <servergeek> ask Siri
[08:40] <Ool> with the key
[08:40] <Bx1MNG> it's ctf comptettion
[08:40] <Bx1MNG> hint
[08:40] <Bx1MNG> xo | rorororo
[08:41] <ace_me> Nissan I am sticked at login screen
[08:41] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: what is the issue now
[08:44] <stevenm> I'm guessing these packages are not in 18.04 because they were just empty (except for a changelog and copyright)  deja-dup-backend-cloudfiles   deja-dup-backend-gvfs    deja-dup-backend-s3
[08:44] <nisankhindia_> Bx1MNG: this is Ubuntu support channel .. you may ask these to somewhere else
[08:44] <stevenm> and the actual functionality you'd *think* they provide is actually built into deja-dup?
[08:46] <quxgyver> Can someone explain what an "executable file" is in the context of Ubuntu? Because the system isn't showing me a filetype, and the terminal won't recognize them as files from what I can see.
[08:47] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: any update from your side
[08:47] <mouses> quxgyver: a 'executable file' is a file with the +x flag set.
[08:47] <avu> quxgyver: it's a very broad term, generally it applies to files with the execute bit set in their permissions (see 'man chmod')
[08:47] <avu> quxgyver: it can be ELF binaries or scripts with a shebang line mostly
[08:47] <quxgyver> Ah I see.
[08:48] <quxgyver> In my case the file has a purple rhombus-shaped icon with two cogs.
[08:48] <quxgyver> Anyone know what that is?
[08:49] <avu> quxgyver: you can ask the 'file' tool to find out
[08:50] <nisankhindia_> quxgyver: run command in this format " file --mime-type -b filename "
[08:51] <ace_me_mob> niSan I am stuck at login
[08:51] <avu> or just 'file <filename>', which will give you more detailed information in most cases and is easier to remember :)
[08:51] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: ok what is going on there
[08:51] <quxgyver> nisankhindia_: It says "application/x-executable"
[08:51] <quxgyver> which is about the same information as I had going into this question!
[08:51] <avu> quxgyver: use 'file <filename>'
[08:52] <ace_me_mob> I enter login and it keep me ther
[08:52] <quxgyver> ELF
[08:52] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: wait
[08:52] <ace_me_mob> I reenter pass and arrive at login
[08:52] <quxgyver> I don't know what that is, but you mentioned it so I guess that's the answer.
[08:52] <avu> quxgyver: the ELF format is the standard binary executable format for Linux
[08:52] <quxgyver> Ah IC
[08:53] <zamba> i want to output a dict as a csv.. with ',' as separator and the values in the csv line as key=value
[08:53] <avu> quxgyver: what you get when you compile a C program for example
[08:53] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: you have faced the login loop scenerio ,
[08:53] <ace_me_mob> how to open a tty to see logs?
[08:53] <zamba> how is this most easily achieved?
[08:53] <quxgyver> Gotcha. :-)
[08:53] <ace_me_mob> yes?
[08:53] <quxgyver> So on to my next question then, I downloaded an application which has an ELF executable, and it used to be that I could double-click it to run it up until today, when I copied it to a different partition and it now suddenly lacks the X parameter
[08:53] <ace_me_mob> login loop scenario
[08:53] <quxgyver> or attribute* rather
[08:53] <ace_me_mob> lucky me
[08:53] <quxgyver> I can't seem to change it either
[08:53] <quxgyver> Anyone know what might've caused this?
[08:53] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: ivoke the tty
[08:54] <ace_me_mob> How
[08:54] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: and that restart the display manager
[08:54] <avu> quxgyver: the partition might be mounted with the no execute option
[08:54] <ace_me_mob> alt f1
[08:54] <avu> quxgyver: type 'mount' and look at the options in the row for that partition
[08:54] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: i guess it works with ctrl+alt+F1
[08:55] <ace_me_mob> f2 worked
[08:55] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: now restart your display manager
[08:55] <ace_me_mob> and how to restart display ?
[08:56] <ace_me_mob> I did sudo service display manager restart but same
[08:56] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[08:57] <quxgyver> avu: Thanks, that's cool/good to know how to do.
[08:57] <quxgyver> I can't see anything about execs not being allowed
[08:57] <quxgyver> Hm, I just read something about certain partitions not allowing file permissions
[08:57] <quxgyver> Maybe I need to format it
[08:57] <avu> quxgyver: the option is called 'noexec'
[08:57] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: what is the output of " cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager "
[08:59] <ace_me_mob> no such file
[08:59] <ace_me_mob> oops
[08:59] <quxgyver> avu: Yeah, no such thing there.
[08:59] <avu> quxgyver: and what happens when you try to 'chmod +x' the file?
[09:00] <ace_me_mob> usr sbin gdm4
[09:00] <ace_me_mob> gdm3
[09:00] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob : what it says " sudo systemctl status display-manager "
[09:02] <ace_me_mob> gdm display lasted 0.06s
[09:02] <ace_me_mob> active running
[09:02] <Galactor> How does one add a start-up command in lubuntu? I have a script I have a command I need to run every time I turn on my computer so bluetooth will detect my headphones, but I want this command to run on start-up automatically
[09:02] <ace_me_mob> started gnome...
[09:02] <Galactor> *I have a commnad I need to run....*
[09:03] <ace_me_mob> env pm Unix gdm launch
[09:03] <mouses> Galactor: Is this a user script or a system service?
[09:03] <mouses> Galactor: If user script, Have a look under System > Preferences > Startup Applications.
[09:03] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: restart the gdm service
[09:04] <quxgyver> avu: Nothing. It just remains at "Nobody"
[09:04] <quxgyver> Could it be the filesystem of the partition?
[09:04] <quxgyver> If so, what's the easiest way to partition it correctly?
[09:04] <Galactor> mouses: It's just a command, not a script (I think? I might be mixing up terminology).
[09:04] <ace_me_mob> restarted... same behavior
[09:05] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: sudo pkill X
[09:05] <Galactor> mouses: the command is pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[09:05] <mouses> Galactor: Do you normally have to do that as root?
[09:05] <Bx1MNG> hey guys
[09:05] <Bx1MNG> need help for decrypt something
[09:06] <Galactor> mouses: I don't know if I need to, but I run it with sudo anyway to be safe
[09:06] <ace_me_mob> same after pkill
[09:06] <Galactor> mouses: I havent tried doing it without doing sudo
[09:06] <mouses> Galactor: In this case, i'd just cron it - from a terminal run sudo crontab -e and add a line like this to it
[09:06] <mouses> @reboot /path/to/script
[09:06] <mouses> Galactor: that'll run that script on reboot
[09:07] <ace_me_mob> xorg log... no devices detected... no screens found
[09:07] <Galactor> mouses: Do I need to make a text file in nano, copy that command into it, and then path to it with cron?
[09:07] <mouses> Galactor: so you just need to create a script (i'd just open a terminal and use nano to create something like this*
[09:07] <mouses> Galactor: yes, i'll give you an example
[09:07] <Galactor> mouses: thanks!
[09:08] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: thats usual
[09:08] <mouses> Galactor: http://i.imgur.com/AEKwSMt.png
[09:09] <mouses> Galactor: And then just do the cron thing I showed you and you should be good to go!  Let me know if you have trouble.
[09:09] <ace_me_mob> so need to uninstall all nvidua
[09:09] <Galactor> mouses: thanks! Is there any specific place I should save the file? I know anywhere would do, but for the sake of keeping things tidy?
[09:09] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: wait i am checking if it needs some reconfiguration
[09:10] <ace_me_mob> OK thx
[09:10] <mouses> Galactor:
[09:10] <mouses> Galactor: Well, considering it will run as root - I'd personally stuff it in /root
[09:10] <mouses> really up to you though
[09:10] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: are you using 18.04 lTS release of ubuntu
[09:11] <Galactor> mouses: thanks! Thats a good tip. :) Let me try this out and Ill get back to you after a reboot to test
[09:12] <ace_me_mob> yes
[09:12] <Junior> yello! :)
[09:13] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: from your terminal run this first " chown username:username .Xauthority " where username is your user
[09:13] <Junior> after upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 from 16.04 i cannot start php7.2-fpm - i get php7.2-fpm.service: Start operation timed out. Terminating . I have tried to increase the timeout for the service without luck. I need to mention that after 2-3 restarts sometimes the service starts directly, what is wrong?
[09:13] <Junior> kernel: Linux blade 3.13.0-52-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 29 16:44:17 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:14] <ace_me_mob> ok
[09:14] <Galactor> mouses: would I run the command as $ sudo crontab -e ~/script-directory/script-name ?
[09:15] <nisankhindia_> ace_me-mob: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:16] <ace_me_mob> gdm is not installed...
[09:16] <mouses> Galactor: no, first just run sudo crontab -e
[09:16] <mouses> that will open a editor
[09:16] <mouses> add the line:
[09:17] <mouses> @reboot /path/to/script
[09:17] <mouses> save and exit, and then give it a reboot
[09:17] <ace_me_mob> should we install it ?
[09:18] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: install that , or check what display manager your system used by default
[09:18] <ace_me_mob> how to check ?
[09:19] <mouses> Galactor: so it should look something like this:
[09:19] <mouses> Galactor: http://i.imgur.com/f8snroC.png
[09:19] <ace_me_mob> display link manager?
[09:19] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: " sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm3 gnome-shell " and " sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop "
[09:23] <ace_me_mob> sad it does not work
[09:23] <ace_me_mob> installed all and dpkg-reconfigure... but
[09:24] <ace_me_mob> have other ideas!?
[09:25] <nisankhindia_> it seems weird
[09:26] <quxgyver> I just initialized a format using Disks, but I'm not getting a confirmation or anything
[09:26] <quxgyver> how do I ensure that it's done?
[09:26] <nisankhindia_> ace_me_mob: wait let me check the chat logs , your nvidia driver was 390 ???
[09:29] <nisankhindia_> ace_me: ace_me_mob: here is the solution it needs nvidia-driver-390 some dependencies .. it doesn't work without the libglvnd and xorg-server from bionic-proposed
[09:32] <Galactor> mouses: Seems to have worked! Thank you very much! I documented the process so I could look it up later if I forget
[09:34] <mouses> Galactor: Yay!  Crontab is super powerful, you can do so much great stuff with it
[09:35] <Galactor> mouses: Very nifty! Happy to have learned something today. Another step towards competence!
[09:35] <mouses> Galactor: \o/ glad it all works!
[10:02] <quxgyver> I formatted an SD card and USB stick using Disks
[10:02] <quxgyver> now they won't appear anywhere in the filesystem
[10:02] <quxgyver> even though they're clearly visible in the disk manager
[10:03] <quxgyver> what is this black magic
[10:03] <EriC^^> quxgyver: can you pastebin "sudo parted -ls" ?
[10:04] <quxgyver> Error: /dev/mmcblk0boot1: unrecognised disk label
[10:04] <quxgyver> This is one of the affected devices
[10:04] <quxgyver> Could this be an issue?
[10:04] <quxgyver> (also thanks)
[10:04] <quxgyver> Partition Table: unknown also.
[10:05] <quxgyver> In Disks it says that it has the GUID Partition Table tho
[10:05] <quxgyver> Both of them
[10:05] <cfhowlett> sudo gparted -ls
[10:06] <quxgyver> I don't have gparted.
[10:06] <EriC^^> quxgyver: do you want a gpt or msdos partition table?
[10:06] <quxgyver> I guess I'll install it
[10:06] <quxgyver> EriC^^: Whichever is the most compatible with Linux
[10:06] <quxgyver> cus the reason why I formatted was cus I've been having issues with FAT
[10:07] <EriC^^> what's the disk's designation under "lsblk" ?
[10:07] <EriC^^> /dev/??
[10:07] <quxgyver> I ran your command and just got "Unit -.mount does not exist, proceeding anyway." and "Could not stat device -ls - No such file or directory."
[10:08] <quxgyver> then it booted gparted which again threw the latter error in a popup
[10:09] <quxgyver> EriC^^: Where should I check for lsblk?
[10:09] <quxgyver> Not sure what you're referring to
[10:09] <EriC^^> quxgyver: type "lsblk" and look at the disk size/name
[10:09] <quxgyver> ah
[10:10] <quxgyver> hm, it seems to have no mount pointn
[10:10] <quxgyver> point*
[10:10] <quxgyver> neither of them
[10:10] <EriC^^> yeah thats normal
[10:11] <quxgyver> So there's nothing of interest for either device there.
[10:11] <quxgyver> Any idea of what might be wrong?
[10:12] <quxgyver> Well this is interesting. After checking the devices in GParted, they seem to have fully unallocated space
[10:12] <quxgyver> Shouldn't format take care of that
[10:12] <quxgyver> Not sure how to format in GParted tho (GUI)
[10:13] <EriC^^> what does it say for /dev/ ??
[10:13] <EriC^> quxgyver: what does it say for /dev/ ??
[10:13] <quxgyver> All the disks are shown as part of /dev
[10:14] <EriC^> quxgyver: can you pastebin the output of "lsblk" ?
[10:16] <quxgyver> EriC^: I truly appreciate the help but can you just tell me more specifically what you're looking for
[10:16] <EriC^> quxgyver: i'm trying to make sure it's the right disk before we partition it from the cli
[10:17] <quxgyver> Ah. Well yes, I'm 100% certain that it's the right ones. I only have three disks in every single list and application we've used so far, and based on their sizes, names and descriptions it's easy for me to determine which is which
[10:17] <quxgyver> so if you just tell me what to do and how to target them, I'll ensure that it's the right ones. :-)
[10:18] <quxgyver> if I target them by path then it's /dev/sda and /dev/sdb
[10:18] <Guest43954> ace_me: you need bionic proposed repository
[10:18] <EriC^> type "sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0boot1" if you're certain that's the one
[10:18] <EriC^> quxgyver: ^
[10:18] <Guest43954> ace_me: to get some dependency to work with your nvidia driver 390
[10:18] <quxgyver> shouldn't I type sudo fdisk /dev/sda?
[10:19] <quxgyver> or were you just using that path as an example
[10:19] <EriC^> quxgyver: no i wasn't
[10:20] <EriC^> quxgyver: i'd rather you pastebin the stuff
[10:20] <Guest43954> ace_me: as it fails to boot into graphical
[10:20] <zamba> i have a string containing comma-separated values.. i want to read this in using csv reader
[10:20] <EriC^> quxgyver: sda is your main disk, not the sd card
[10:20] <zamba> import csv ; cvs.reader(string, delimiter=",")
[10:21] <zamba> but it parses every character into it's own element, it seems
[10:21] <quxgyver> EriC^: I'm 100% certain that sda and sdb are the sd cards, because I only have three disks on this system and sda+sdb are the only devices out of the three that correspond with the cards in terms of size
[10:21] <Guest43954> ace_me:  nvidia-390 fails to boot graphical display it's a bug effected many users and solution is now to get packages like libglvnd0, xserver-xorg-core, and libgl1-mesa-glx from bionic propsed
[10:21] <quxgyver>  /dev/mmcblk0 is my main sys, while /dev/sda and /dev/sdb are my sdcard+usb
[10:21] <quxgyver> main device*
[10:22] <EriC^> quxgyver: ok
[10:22] <quxgyver> this is also reflected in lsblk since I have a ton of partitions on mmcblk0 whereas there are none on sda or sdb
[10:22] <quxgyver> Not trying to sound terse. Just saying. :-)
[10:22] <EriC^> if you're certain
[10:22] <EriC^> quxgyver: sda has no mountpoint right?
[10:22] <quxgyver> Out of curiosity, what's mmcblk0 boot 0 and 1?
[10:23] <quxgyver> because lsblk shows up as follows: sda / sdb / mmcblk0 (with a ton of partitions under it) / mmcblk0boot0 / mmcblk0boot1
[10:23] <quxgyver> and that's it
[10:24] <EriC^> quxgyver: those are likely the partitions of your main hdd
[10:24] <quxgyver> mmcblk0boot0 and boot1's MAJ:MIN corresponds with sda/sdb
[10:24] <EriC^> i cant tell much without a paste can i quxgyver ? :D
[10:24] <quxgyver> well ok
[10:24] <quxgyver> i just don't like pasting stuff taken straight from my system
[10:24] <quxgyver> that i dont know what it is
[10:24] <quxgyver> but alright ill do it
[10:24] <EriC^> it's a partition table
[10:25] <quxgyver> PM'd :)
[10:25] <EriC^> !pm
[10:26] <quxgyver> Ya I just wanted to keep the info private
[10:26] <cfhowlett> :)
[10:27] <EriC^> it's not private info
[10:27] <EriC^> anyways you modded it as well
[10:27] <EriC^> xD
[10:27] <quxgyver> Sure.
[10:28] <quxgyver> Will it suffice?
[10:28] <EriC^> quxgyver: yeah, type "sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[10:29] <EriC^> type "o" to make a new partition table
[10:29] <quxgyver> thank you :=
[10:29] <quxgyver> :)
[10:30] <quxgyver> Hm, o wants to create FAT
[10:30] <quxgyver> I wanna do GPT instead
[10:30] <quxgyver> g?
[10:30] <quxgyver> Is this all I need to do?
[10:30] <EriC^> you said earlier you want something that'll work more easily
[10:30] <cfhowlett> booting from FAT is vastly simpler
[10:30] <quxgyver> Nah, the problem is that a certain application wouldn't run under FAT
[10:30] <EriC^> huh no
[10:30] <quxgyver> and FAT wouldn't let me set x
[10:31] <quxgyver> which is why I formatted to GPT in the first place
[10:31] <quxgyver> so can I just choose g and that's it?
[10:31] <EriC^> k
[10:31] <quxgyver> is that all there's to it?
[10:31] <EriC^> no, type "sudo gdisk /dev/sda"
[10:31] <EriC^> instead of fdisk
[10:32] <quxgyver> Alright
[10:32] <quxgyver> It says:   MBR: protectiveBSD: not presentAPM: not presentGPT: present
[10:33] <quxgyver> after I've written GPT to it with sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[10:34] <EriC^> i said gdisk
[10:34] <EriC^> quxgyver: press ctrl+c if you still have fdisk open
[10:34] <EriC^> type sudo gdisk /dev/sda
[10:34] <EriC^> then press "o" to write a new partition table
[10:35] <quxgyver> okay, done
[10:36] <EriC^> quxgyver: press "n" to create a new partition
[10:36] <EriC^> quxgyver: keep the starting sector the same (press enter with it blank)
[10:36] <EriC^> as well as ending sector
[10:37] <EriC^> quxgyver: for the type, enter"0700"
[10:42] <EriC^> quxgyver: ?
[10:48] <stevendale> Why does Ubuntu get so many update
[10:49] <EriC^> stevendale: software gets updated all the time, the more you have installed the more updates you'll get
[10:50] <stevendale> EriC^, Does that mean I should install everything?
[10:50] <EriC^> stevendale: no the updates are for the specific packages
[10:51] <EriC^> stevendale: you should update when it tells you there's an update, so that everything is up to date and as bug free as possible
[10:51] <stevendale> Is it okay to use PPAs to update stufff that is lagging behind in the official repos
[10:52] <EriC^> stevendale: it depends on the ppa if it's reputable and the maintainer knows what he's doing
[10:52] <EriC^> it could potentially break your system if the dependencies get all screwed up
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:56] <lotus|NUC> stevendale: nothings lagging on the oficial repos neither
[11:01] <stevendale> lotus|NUC, Transmission GTK is 2.92, the latest is 2.94
[11:01] <stevendale> VLC is 3.0.3, latest is 3.0.4
[11:01] <lotus|NUC> !latest | stevendale
[11:02] <illuminated> what does dkpg-reconfigure do?
[11:02] <illuminated> in plain english
[11:03] <quxgyver> EriC^: I'm not following anymore
[11:03] <quxgyver> I'm with you up until sudo gdisk /dev/sda
[11:03] <quxgyver> I don't understand anything past that point
[11:03] <nisankhindia_> illiminated: dpkg-reconfigure reconfigures packages after they have already been installed. Pass it the names of a package or packages to reconfigure. It will ask configuration questions, much like when the package was first installed
[11:03] <quxgyver> can you clarify a bit?
[11:04] <illuminated> nisankhindia_: thanks man
[11:04] <nisankhindia_> illuminated: as word stands it tells the dpkg to reconfigure the package or reset a package
[11:05] <illuminated> one of these days I'm going to reformat and install linux on this box
[11:06] <nisankhindia_> illuminated: than read books about linux / unix alike systems , from my side few resources at http://doc.lagout.org/
[11:08] <nisankhindia_> illuminated: you are free to make a copy of the entire server https://lagout.org/contact/
[11:09] <illuminated> cool thanks
[11:19] <nisankhindia_> i am exhausted , the whole day spent to resolve an firefox issue but unable to get any clue , firefox freezes when i try to open facebook website .. after login to facebook if i do try to write any update as status than immediatly firefox freezes .. it seems like something went wrong with facebook web app service workers and firefox .. anyone else facing the same issue
[11:20] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: ubuntu version plz?
[11:22] <nisankhindia_> i have checked it has nothing to do with system or OS , it is clearly a misbehaviour of Facebook Service worker . i am trying to confirm if anyone else having the same issue
[11:22] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: did you try another browser yet?
[11:23] <nisankhindia_> i have checked with nightly release and works well
[11:23] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: so its about your specific FF version
[11:24] <nisankhindia_> no it is service worker of facebook , which causing freeze
[11:24] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: if another version of FF works, or another browser?
[11:25] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: try launching FF from terminal, wee what it spits out
[11:25] <lotus|NUC> *see
[11:26] <nisankhindia_> i have investigated the serviceworker which loads the cache to browser . but expected behaviour should be load the lightbox when user try to update a status but it somehow failes
[11:28] <nisankhindia_> in case of firefox version 64 ( nightly ) and chrome version 69 works well with the service worker js
[11:29] <nisankhindia_> firefox noprofile and resetting all ( which is shipped with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS ) unable to handle the SW js of facebook
[11:30] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: im using bionics FF just nice here on FB
[11:31] <nisankhindia_> try this i have added google serviceworker script with this to check the system http://nisankhacharjya.me/player/ .. add more than 100 mp3 files and than check whether it respond as normal or freezes for a while
[11:33] <Junior> after upgrading to ubuntu 18.04 from 16.04 i cannot start php7.2-fpm - i get php7.2-fpm.service: Start operation timed out. Terminating . I have tried to increase the timeout for the service without luck. I need to mention that after 2-3 restarts sometimes the service starts directly, what is wrong?
[11:34] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: i dont have 100 tracks locally
[11:34] <lotus|NUC> Junior: your kernel version please?
[11:34] <nisankhindia_> well let me look the other side too , may be my default browser is unable to handle the cache somehow
[11:35] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: youre on 62 FF also?
[11:36] <Junior> lotus|NUC- Linux blade 3.13.0-52-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 29 16:44:17 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:36] <Junior> i have tried reinstall it using apt, removed it, now i am trying to install again
[11:36] <lotus|NUC> Junior: that doesnt seem right mate, 18.04.1 has kernel 4.15
[11:36] <nisankhindia_> yup its 62.0+build2-0ubuntu0.18.04.5
[11:36] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: ok, same
[11:37] <Junior> i have tried to change ExecStart=/usr/sbin/php-fpm7.2 --nodaemonize --fpm-config /etc/php/7.2/fpm/php-fpm.conf to remove --nodaemonize completly or to change it daemonize with the same result
[11:38] <lotus|NUC> Junior: that seems like a not-updated trusty kernel
[11:39] <nisankhindia_> lotus|NUC: yes main culprit finally have come out , i have corrupt cache
[11:40] <lotus|NUC> !yay | nisankhindia_
[11:41] <lotus|NUC> nisankhindia_: i clean stuff with bleachbit myself
[11:41] <lotus|NUC> Junior: if you say you updated to 18.04, something must have gone wrong there
[11:41] <Junior> lotus|NUC i have ran dist-upgrade, let me verify
[11:42] <Junior> lsb_release -a returns Description: Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[11:42] <lotus|NUC> Junior: check your sources.list perhaps?
[11:42] <lotus|NUC> !sources | Junior
[11:42] <nisankhindia_> lotus|NUC : i dont undertsand the way facebook works , most of the web apps do uses serviceworkers to load their pages fast and use less data but facebook never works towards their serviceworkers and rectify these issue , i have seen most of browsers do freeze or sluggishness are there faced by users while visiting facebook web version
[11:43] <Junior> lotus|NUC i know that on start of the upgrade i was prompted to replace x with y on sources
[11:43] <quxgyver> My SD card and USB stick aren't showing up in Ubuntu after being formatted
[11:43] <quxgyver> I have no idea what to do
[11:43] <quxgyver> Can someone help me?
[11:44] <quxgyver> They appear in partition applications as having unallocated space
[11:44] <lotus|NUC> Junior: i think you have old leftovers from trusty, not cleaned well over 16.04 and took it to 18.04 somehow
[11:44] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: format with gparted
[11:45] <quxgyver> How?
[11:45] <lotus|NUC> !info gparted | quxgyver
[11:45] <quxgyver> I know what it is, I have it open, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do to get it working again
[11:45] <quxgyver> the devices that is
[11:46] <Junior> lotus|NUC, let me see that
[11:46] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: does gparted show your devices ontop?
[11:46] <quxgyver> Yeah
[11:47] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: ok, pick one and format
[11:47] <quxgyver> Yeah I mean, I've tried creating a partition out of the unallocated space and then formatting it.
[11:48] <quxgyver> It doesn't make any difference. The device is not showing up in the file manager
[11:48] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: try to format the deive fully right
[11:48] <lotus|NUC> device
[11:49] <lotus|NUC> Junior: feel free to share us a pastebin of your sources, volunteers might take a look
[11:49] <quxgyver> How?
[11:49] <quxgyver> Or like, what should I do in addition to what I've already done
[11:50] <Junior> lotus|NUC i use digital ocean so i have deb https://repos.sonar.digitalocean.com/apt main main
[11:51] <lotus|NUC> Junior: im more interested of your ubuntu sources
[11:51] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: i mean do you use your whole device format, or did you try a second partition next to the existing?
[11:52] <Futurian> apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:52] <Junior> https://pastebin.com/Y87kawQd
[11:53] <Junior> i don't see them being used though..
[11:53]  * Futurian realises not looking at the latest page of text in IRC client... *doh*
[11:54] <lotus|NUC> Junior: you see there are trusty sources in there, try to remove those sudo apt update after
[11:55] <Junior> lotus|NUC, they are commented out
[11:55] <lotus|NUC> Junior: check your software&soures please?
[11:55] <lotus|NUC> Junior: see if anything is enabled as it should
[11:56] <Junior> lotus|NUC, this is a server, no desktop
[11:56] <lotus|NUC> right
[11:57] <lotus|NUC> Junior: what gives: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade please?
[11:58] <Junior> lotus|NUC- https://pastebin.com/CyxNK5vQ
[11:59] <Junior> you are correct, i have another server which i haven't upgraded yet and the kernel version reported is the same as the ones that are already upgraded...
[12:01] <lotus|NUC> Junior: this is how mine looks like: https://hastebin.com/vegususomo.shell
[12:01] <Junior> i have generated a list of repos and this are - https://pastebin.com/tcPTS3jP
[12:01] <quxgyver> lotus|NUC: No no, I always did the entire device
[12:01] <quxgyver> the problem was that when i formatted with Disk, it left me with unallocated space
[12:01] <quxgyver> so I used GParted to partition the entire device, and then reformat it
[12:01] <quxgyver> I just tried rebooting
[12:02] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: ok good, now after the format try a terminal: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin yur device
[12:02] <quxgyver> the devices now show up but both have a lost+found folder that I'm not allowed to access
[12:02] <quxgyver> is there reason for concern?
[12:02] <Junior> lotus|NUC, after i used that source and ran apt-get update && upgrade i get - https://pastebin.com/bL5dtrcq
[12:02] <Junior> ok to upgrade?
[12:02] <lotus|NUC> Junior: yes
[12:03] <lotus|NUC> !info linux-image-generic bionic | Junior is what you should get
[12:07] <Junior> one sec to upgrade the others, then will do the kernel
[12:07] <ducasse> quxgyver: the lost+found folder is a feature of the filesystem and perfectly normal
[12:07] <Junior> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-34-generic
[12:08] <quxgyver> Okay
[12:08] <quxgyver> now I can't even use my newly-formatted devices
[12:08] <quxgyver> why the hell is formatting stuff so insanely complex on linux
[12:08] <quxgyver> I feel like I just destroyed two perfectly good storage devices
[12:08] <quxgyver> just by doing the most plain and vanilla format ever
[12:09] <quxgyver> and every troubleshooting step is just making it weirder and worse
[12:09] <quxgyver> ffs
[12:09] <Junior> it generated /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-35-generic , will reboot now and see if it comes back online :)
[12:10] <illuminated> quxgyver: you didn't destroy the devices.  they can always be reformatted
[12:10] <Junior> it came back with the same kernel
[12:10] <Junior> Linux blade 3.13.0-52-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 29 16:44:17 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:10] <quxgyver> illuminated: how though
[12:11] <Junior> https://pastebin.com/B4CNHCxK
[12:11] <quxgyver> formatting with fdisk or gparted does nothing
[12:11] <quxgyver> the devices just wont work after format
[12:11] <ducasse> quxgyver: fdisk doesn't format, it just creates partitions
[12:11] <lotus|NUC> Junior: reboot perhaps?
[12:11] <quxgyver> Disk*
[12:11] <quxgyver> not fdisk
[12:11] <Junior> lotus|NUC i have rebooated
[12:11] <Junior> twice :)
[12:12] <illuminated> quxgyver: first you create the partition, and then you put the file system on it..(format it).  The fs can be ntfs, ext4, fat, etc.
[12:12] <lotus|NUC> Junior: thats weird man
[12:12] <Junior> maybe it's a restriction from digitalocean
[12:13] <Junior> this is the first time i've done dist upgrade there, on my local servers had no problems
[12:13] <lotus|NUC> Junior: could be that your external ppa's are interfering, but apt doesnt gives us errors so..
[12:13] <quxgyver> illuminated: I've done both
[12:13] <quxgyver> devices won't work
[12:13] <illuminated> quxgyver: how are you doing this?
[12:13] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: give us the tail errors please
[12:14] <illuminated> are you booted into a livecd or what?
[12:14] <Junior> lotus|NUC the bright side is that i have the php-fpm active (running) when it came back from reboot, now if i try to restart it, it fails :)
[12:15] <lotus|NUC> Junior: its not safe to still be running an older, unsafe kernel, you need to fix this fast mate
[12:16] <i4> hi there
[12:16] <quxgyver> lotus|NUC: What's a tail error
[12:16] <i4> Try to use Logitech G930 under ubuntu 18.04
[12:16] <quxgyver> illuminated: GUI and terminal in ubuntu
[12:16] <i4> But no 7.1 sound
[12:16] <lotus|NUC> quxgyver: scroll up, i asked you to pastebin
[12:16] <i4> Maybe someone knows how to setup the Logitech G930 headset under the ubuntu for 7.1 mode?
[12:18] <lotus|NUC> Junior: waitup for leftyfb, he might know howto
[12:18] <quxgyver> lotus|NUC / illuminated: It looks like I somehow lost ownership of the devices when formatting them
[12:18] <quxgyver> so... I'm gonna look into reclaiming them and see what that does
[12:19] <illuminated> can you not chown them?
[12:20] <Junior> lotus|NUC i know, let me see why, brb 5 minutes, have to step out
[12:20] <quxgyver> I'm trying
[12:21] <Kristhian> What is the command to check the if the ip has a reverseDNS?
[12:22] <leftyfb> Kristhian: host <Ip address>
[12:22] <leftyfb> Junior: is this a VPS?
[12:22] <Kristhian> Thanks
[12:22] <Kristhian> Yes
[12:24] <leftyfb> Junior: If you're running a VPS or some sort of container, you're using a shared kernel across the platform. There's nothing you can do about that. Pay for a dedicated or colo server. Or worse, go with a shared platform and not have any real linux access to anything.
[12:25] <quxgyver> I... think it worked
[12:25] <quxgyver> knock on wood
[12:25] <quxgyver> thanks a lot for taking the time to help
[12:25] <quxgyver> one of the most messed up formatting experienced ever
[12:25] <quxgyver> brings me back to the win 95 days of screwing around with partitions as a kid and messing up badly :D
[12:25] <ducasse> Junior: if this is digitalocean you need to select the kernel in their web ui
[12:26] <leftyfb> ducasse: didn't know that was a thing. What's the utility of that?
[12:27] <Cheez> they have different images with different kernel builds in them, you can pick which build you'd like
[12:27] <ducasse> Junior: there is (or at least used to be) a dropdown to select from a list of prepared kernels. if you create a droplet from a later release you just update the kernel with grub as on real hardware, though.
[12:27] <ducasse> Junior: i think they changed this after trusty
[12:27] <Kristhian> Anyway does someone knows here how do i forward Reverse dns?
[12:28] <lotus|NUC> Cheez: how come their not up to date? thats like a not-updated trusty kernel
[12:28] <leftyfb> Kristhian: what do ou mean?
[12:28] <leftyfb> damn, can't keyboard today
[12:28] <Kristhian> For example i have it set one on dns afraid
[12:28] <leftyfb> Kristhian: Sorry, can you try that in better English?
[12:29] <Kristhian> Hehe, again. Sorry
[12:30] <Kristhian> Ok, so i have set one in dns afraid - are you guys familiar with dns afraid?
[12:30] <Kristhian> Its a free dns hosting
[12:32] <leftyfb> Kristhian: You cannot set reverse DNS on ip addresses unless you are authoritative for those ip addresses (you're not)
[12:32] <Kristhian> Actually i am
[12:32] <leftyfb> Kristhian: oh? How'd you get that?
[12:33] <Kristhian> I have an account in vultr
[12:33] <Kristhian> Just trying to study it
[12:34] <leftyfb> Kristhian: I would contact the owner of your IP address and ask them about being authoritative and reverse DNS for the ip address. I think you might be misunderstanding.
[12:34] <Kristhian> Oh
[12:35] <Kristhian> I changed it here though
[12:35] <Kristhian> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/m8oRGKD4/Screenshot_2018-09-24-20-34-27-85.png
[12:35] <Kristhian> You see that kitoy.chickenkiller.com
[12:36] <leftyfb> Kristhian: host 45.76.197.18
[12:36] <leftyfb> 18.197.76.45.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer kitoy.chickenkiller.com.
[12:36] <leftyfb> it's working
[12:36] <Kristhian> Oh
[12:37] <leftyfb> Kristhian: mind you, that has absolutely nothing to do with ubuntu. Please keep on topic moving forward.
[12:38] <Kristhian> Anyway why in my end it is still showing as vultr.com
[12:38] <Kristhian> Last question
[12:40] <leftyfb> Kristhian: again, that is not related to ubuntu. But check which DNS servers you're using. Use nslookup and dig to do the lookups against the vultr DNS servers and the ones you're using
[12:40] <leftyfb> Kristhian: also make sure you don't have it hard coded in /etc/hosts
[12:41] <Kristhian> Ok, thanks though
[12:42] <mouses> DNS can be such a pain
[13:20] <UNIm95> Hi together. I have problem with keytabs. I can create working keytabs only with rc4-hmac encryption. I'm able to create keytab with ktutil, but i can not get kerberos key to authenticate.
[13:20] <UNIm95> I'm able to create keytab with ktutil, but i can not get kerberos key to authenticate. I have Windows active directory as domain controller and ubuntu 18.04 as clients
[13:20] <UNIm95> kinit throws fail Preauthentication failed while getting initial credentials.
[13:41] <Junior> i have wrong output in uname-a , it reports a kernel from 16.04 when i have 18.04 installed https://pastebin.com/hzKNeNRn
[13:41] <Junior> update-initramfs -u did not worked
[13:44] <simpledat> Hi
[13:44] <simpledat> Where can I download ubuntu 32 bit?
[13:48] <enzotib> simpledat, you can find 32bit versione of 16.04: http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[13:48] <enzotib> version*
[13:48] <simpledat> enzotib: What about Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS 32bit?
[13:48] <nikolam> I have troubles installing and running OSes as a VirtualBox guest and Ubuntu as ahost.
[13:49] <nikolam> So aether it's about Linux kernel in Ubuntu or VirtualBox
[13:49] <enzotib> simpledat, there is no 32 bit version of 18.04 on that same site, I suppose it is no longer developed
[13:49] <nikolam> enzotib, I thonk there is 32-bit Ubuntu, just not offered to be installed anymore, nor officially supported.
[13:50] <Junior> lotus|NUC, thank you for your time, if somebody else come here that is using droplets from digital ocean and has the servers created a long time ago, tell them to power off the machines - https://www.digitalocean.com/docs/droplets/how-to/kernel/grubloader/#switch
[13:50] <simpledat> enzotib: Thanks
[13:58] <lotus|NUC> Junior: scroll back to what ducasse & leftyfb suggested please
[14:03] <gpunk> nikolam install the gests modules :)
[14:03] <gpunk> guests*
[14:05] <pragmaticenigma> simpledat, enzotib, nikolam_ : there is a 32 bit install of 18.04 available. There are no longer build images of the Desktop ISO however. You need to use the mini.iso 32bit offering which will install Ubuntu in 32bit edition.
[14:06] <pragmaticenigma> It is a network install method, which means you will need to have an active internet connection when installing. The extra bonus is that all packages installed will already be their most up-to-date versions offered, so no need to wait through a sytem update when done installing
[14:08] <pragmaticenigma> !mini | enzotib, simpledat, nikolam
[14:09] <enzotib> thanks pragmaticenigma
[14:12] <nikolam> yeah, I used to use minimal image to install 32-bi, even in 16.04 time.
[14:26] <lorddoskias> hello shouldn kvm_intel module have parameters for l1tf mitigation i.e vmentry_*
[14:27] <lorddoskias> currently i only see: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PQpJvR5cNF/
[14:30] <pragmaticenigma> lorddoskias: That might be a question you'd have to ask as either a bug report or contact the team developing kvm. To me, I don't think it would, as the host system should provide the protection needed as the patch would be applied there.
[14:32] <lorddoskias> pragmaticenigma: the thing is if i want to disable the mitigation for KVM
[14:32] <kisku> Can not run 0 A.D game on ubuntu 18.04.1, GNOME 3.28.2,  Intel dual core 32bit, 4GB ram
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> lorddoskias: Are you certain that the validation isn't responding to the exposed values through the hypervisor, and not the KVM instance?
[14:34] <lorddoskias> pragmaticenigma: i don't understand the question
[14:34] <lorddoskias> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/L1TF this page says that the l1 cache flushing behavior can be controller by kvm-intel.vmentry_l1d_flush kernel command line options
[14:34] <lorddoskias> and this just means setting the vmentry_l1d_flush option of the kvm-intel module and my intel module doesn't have this option, so that's what i'm asking
[14:36] <pragmaticenigma> lorddoskias: You would have to research what version that was applied to, then file a bug report to launchpad to get the patch backported to the version supported in Ubuntu
[14:37] <lorddoskias> i'm running 18.04 so according to https://usn.ubuntu.com/3740-1/ -> linux-image-4.15.0-32-generic - 4.15.0-32.35
[14:37] <pragmaticenigma> lorddoskias: why are you referring to a kernel version when asking about kvm modules?
[14:37] <lorddoskias> actually i'm on 16.04 and it says linux-image-4.15.0-32-generic - 4.15.0-32.35~16.04.1
[14:38] <lorddoskias> because the modules are shipped as part of the kernel, no ?
[14:39] <pragmaticenigma> lorddoskias: Are you running the stock kernel or running HWE or mainline?
[14:39] <lorddoskias> HWE
[14:42] <pragmaticenigma> lorddoskias: You may want to asking in #ubuntu-kernel ... More than likely, they will encourage you to file a bug report though.
[14:42] <lorddoskias> that's what i did eventually
[14:54] <Greyztar> .
[15:08] <gloomy> Hi :)
[15:08] <gloomy> What tool do you suggest for advanced keyboard shortcuts/macros ?
[15:09] <gloomy> I'd really like to have chorded shortcuts too (two-step shortcuts, not sure how they're called)
[15:09] <gpunk> it s usually at application level ....
[15:10] <MoL0ToV> hi to all
[15:11] <MoL0ToV> hi to all i have a problem with cups, someone can help me?
[15:14] <gloomy> hmm
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> gloomy: There is a built in editor for OS shortcuts, no need for an add on. As gpunk mentioned, most applications have their own set of shortcuts. You should read up on the documentation for your applications to find out what they are.
[15:14] <pragmaticenigma> !details | MoL0ToV
[15:14] <gpunk> is cupsd running ?
[15:16] <gloomy> What about slightly more advanced stuff (like: look up selection on google, react to an image on screen, etc)?
[15:16] <pragmaticenigma> gloomy: those would have to be features provided by the applications themselves
[15:17] <gloomy> (I can make scripts for it by hand of course, but I was hoping for a somewhat unified approach)
[15:18] <pragmaticenigma> gloomy: There might be, but I have no seen anything. Your question might receive better answers in #ubuntu-offtopic ... but I'd suggest doing some google searching for a specific feature and see where that leads you
[15:19] <gloomy> Thanks. :)
[15:19] <MoL0ToV> i have a problem with cups, i tryed to purge cups via apt and reinstall but after that the cups server don't starts anymore
[15:20] <pragmaticenigma> MoL0ToV: have you tried rebooting
[15:23] <MoL0ToV> pragmaticenigma, yes
[15:23] <gpunk> can you do a tailf /var/log/syslog for example while restarting it ?
[15:24] <MoL0ToV> yes just a moment
[15:26] <gpunk> or tail -f
[15:27] <MoL0ToV> https://pastebin.com/3iet1Dni
[15:28] <gpunk>  /etc/cups/cupsd.conf  this file is missing as you can see ,
[15:29] <gpunk> can you do :dpkg-reconfigure cups-daemon   ?
[15:36] <CoolerZ> i need 2 packages TclMagick and TkMagick
[15:36] <gpunk> great to know :)
[15:36] <CoolerZ> where can i find them? this documentation doesn't seem to say https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+source/graphicsmagick
[15:36] <CoolerZ> on ubuntu 18.04
[15:37] <CoolerZ> are they in that package or no?
[15:38] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: they are not
[15:39] <CoolerZ> leftyfb, how do you know?
[15:40] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: because I looked
[15:40] <CoolerZ> where does it say ?
[15:40] <CoolerZ> which section?
[15:40] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: apt-cache search and apt-file search
[15:40] <CoolerZ> is it the build-dependencies section?
[15:41] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: apt-cache search and apt-file search
[15:41] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: a package information page isn't typically going to tell you all the things it DOESN'T include
[15:41] <CoolerZ> leftyfb, no i mean where are the things that it DOES include
[15:42] <CoolerZ> is it the build-dependencies section?
[15:43] <CoolerZ> also apt-cache search for those 2 packages didn't give any results
[15:44] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: apt-file list graphicsmagick
[15:44] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: which means there's no package with those names in it's name/description
[15:45] <CoolerZ> leftyfb, so which package contains those 2 packages that i need?
[15:45] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: none
[15:46] <CoolerZ> fyi the reason i need those 2 are because i want to build ffes
[15:46] <CoolerZ> and its install notes say "NOTE: The new code for importing image data into FFES requires the
[15:46] <CoolerZ>       TclMagick and TkMagick packages. These are available in packages
[15:46] <CoolerZ> 	  for various Linux distributions;"
[15:47] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: Ubuntu 18.04 is not one of those distributions
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: No distribution is it would seem... You might need to do a little research, or reach out to the group developing that application.
[15:51] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, what? how do you know that?
[15:51] <CoolerZ> https://www.cs.rit.edu/~rlaz/ffes/#download
[15:51] <CoolerZ> the software is cross platform
[15:52] <CoolerZ> although it is from 2007
[15:52] <leftyfb> CoolerZ: jeezus. Those 2 packages/files a NOT available in Ubuntu 18.04 or 16.04. Go contact the project maintainer with questions/complaints.
[15:52] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: The TclMagick and TkMagick are listed as Alpha release on the project's hosting site/sourceforge. The last updated was 2013. Do a little google searching and you will find the same information that I am
[15:53] <dbff2> my python installation is messed up
[15:53] <dbff2> anyone can help me fix it? I used sudo
[15:53] <dbff2> and now its broken
[15:53] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: All those are were/are iterfaces for the ImageMagick library. You need to contact the development team of the program you are trying to build for alternatives. Or find a different software solution that doesn't have that requirement.
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> dbff2: what did you run that caused python to break?
[15:54] <dbff2> I should clarify, python actually works fine
[15:54] <dbff2> pip3 is messed up
[15:54] <dbff2> I can't install packages
[15:54] <FurretUber> Hi, I'm trying to use Thunderbird to subscribe to https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/newpkg?format=rss but it keeps failing, bionic-backports and bionic-updates RSS feeds worked
[15:54] <dbff2> I have to run python3 -m pip install ...
[15:55] <dbff2> when I run pip3 I get ImportError: cannot import name 'main'
[15:55] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: Did you try accessing that via a web browser
[15:56] <FurretUber> When removing the ?format=rss from the page I can access with the browser
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: that isn't what I asked
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> dbff2: what were you installing or running with pip3 before it started failing?
[15:57] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: The URL as written... can you access it?
[15:57] <FurretUber> I tried and it just keeps a gray screen (Opera Developer)
[15:57] <dbff2> pragmaticengma I wish I remembered
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: Which would mean...
[15:58] <dbff2> Its been broken for few weeks
[15:58] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, no i mean how did you find out that its not available for ANY linux distro?
[15:58] <pragmaticenigma> dbff2: You might want to try and reinstall it with apt
[15:59] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: The project appears abandoned and is listed as Alpha version. Distributions rarely include alpha versions of software in their distributions.
[15:59] <dbff2> pragmaticenigma already did apt-get purge
[15:59] <FurretUber> Opera Developer is able to open RSS feeds, but the Ubuntu ones from https://packages.ubuntu.com always lead to the gray screen
[15:59] <dbff2> and reinstalled it
[15:59] <dbff2> but again messed up
[16:00] <dbff2> is this the default location? /usr/bin/pip3
[16:00] <FurretUber> For example, the Xubuntu feed from https://xubuntu.org/feed/ works both in Opera Developer and Thunderbird
[16:01] <FurretUber> While the feed from https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-backports/newpkg?format=rss work in Thunderbird but does not work in Opera Developer
[16:01] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: If the page won't load in a webbrowser... why would it work in Thunderbird... they are both attempting to access the same resource...
[16:01] <FurretUber> And https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/newpkg?format=rss does not work in neither of them
[16:01] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: What i'm trying to help you see is that if you can't access it in a browser, Thunderbird most certainly won't work either
[16:02] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: And if it isn't working in the webbrowser, then it's likely an issue on the server that is hosting the page... which means you'll have to wait until said server is updatied
[16:02] <FurretUber> The https://packages.ubuntu.com are broken on Opera for some time already, they never worked there
[16:03] <FurretUber> But the question is: why the feed from bionic-backports work while the feed from bionic does not?
[16:03] <FurretUber> On Thunderbird, as Opera case is different
[16:05] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: The bionic page is 12MB in size, that's a lot of XML to process in a parser. bionic-backports has one entry currently and a much smaller size.
[16:06] <kumool> How can you disable the cd/dvd drive?
[16:06] <FurretUber> So, Thunderbird can't process information from large pages?
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> kumool: You can't... unless you physically remove it's power source
[16:06] <kumool> dang
[16:06] <kumool> well, thanks pragmaticenigma
[16:07] <gpunk> well you can disable the module ?
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: I'm saying it's likely timing out while trying to process it
[16:07] <FurretUber> I suppose this is a bug in Thunderbird, then?
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> gpunk: not recommended
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: No
[16:07] <FurretUber> So... how do I enable the RSS feed for bionic?
[16:08] <kumool> gpunk, I'm planning on using a usb drive instead because the internal one is faulty, so if I disable it, could i still have another load another drive?
[16:08] <gpunk> if it s faulty , better remove it,
[16:09] <pragmaticenigma> FurretUber: I'm trying... over and over and over... to tell you... there is nothing you can do. It's mostly server side at the moment. In addition, it's a 12 MB file... that's huge in the sense of XML processing
[16:09] <kumool> gpunk, yeah but then i'd have a giant hole on the laptop which might would allow critters to get in
[16:09] <gpunk> use duck tape :)
[16:09] <kumool> I was thinking of cardboard but that's good too
[16:10] <kumool> I will though! thanks :D
[16:10] <gpunk> yes you can have a second cd/dvd-usb
[16:10] <kumool> huh
[16:11] <MoL0ToV> someone can help me with xerox sane driver? my xerox multifunction printer is not detected by sane
[16:11] <gpunk> is it supported ?
[16:11] <kumool> before doing that, why is it not recommended pragmaticenigma ?
[16:12] <gpunk> MoL0ToV: ^
[16:13] <MoL0ToV> yes, exists a linux driver for my network printer and network scanner, in ubuntu 16.04 works very good but in 18.04 don't work
[16:13] <gpunk> have looked at your dmesg  / syslog ?
[16:13] <MoL0ToV> no
[16:14] <gpunk> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man5/sane-xerox_mfp.5.html
[16:14] <MoL0ToV> the first problem is that cups admin authentication don't work
[16:15] <pragmaticenigma> kumool: It may disable other components, may raise bugs, it's hard to predict. I don't recommend disabling hardware modules like that... in addition to forgetting that you disabled it later when you have a replacement part
[16:15] <MoL0ToV> if i click on add printer the browser don't authenticate me with a user and password request
[16:16] <MoL0ToV> so i'm unable to add a printer
[16:16] <gpunk> log in as root ?
[16:17] <Sven_vB_> where are gio file attributes saved?
[16:18] <MoL0ToV> gpunk, i don't use root admin i use sudo
[16:19] <gpunk> you lunch the browser with sudo ? i dont understand you
[16:21] <MoL0ToV> no i launch the prowser as default user
[16:21] <gpunk> then you log in as who ?
[16:22] <MoL0ToV> then i expect that browser ask me for password
[16:22]  * Sven_vB uses sudo -b system-config-printer
[16:22] <MoL0ToV> when i click on add printer
[16:22] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, add the printer outside of your browser
[16:22] <MoL0ToV> but the browser don't ask me for a user and password so i can't authenticate
[16:23] <gpunk> check if you have cookies ... just a guess
[16:23] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, use the printer settings dialog to add the printer, restart your browser and then the printer should show up in the browser.
[16:23] <Sven_vB> +system+ printer settings dialog
[16:24] <kumool> pragmaticenigma, mmm not buying a replacement part, looking at new laptops it seems they have less and less dvd drives now, so i'm pretty sure it will all be external usb drives soon (5 years?) but I still want to try, if weird things happen I'll deal with them as they happen
[16:25] <kumool> I was planning on disabling a lot of things since this laptop has a lot of crap on it, (a netcard adapter!? what!?)
[16:26] <kumool> anyway thanks all
[16:26] <pragmaticenigma> kumool: Might I suggest this then: Write all the steps you do down. That will help with troubleshooting any issues that arise later
[16:27] <kumool> alright, Will do, cheers
[16:27] <Sven_vB> FurretUber, you could use some auxiliary server that cuts off all but the most recent 20 entries from that RSS. that way you might miss lots when a big burst of news is posted, but at least you'll know that there are some news.
[16:27] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, if i user xfce printer settings i cannot install printer via ddns but only via fixed ip address that changes every time i restart the router...
[16:28] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, is xfce your primary DE?
[16:28] <gpunk> can you configure the router to give it a fixed ip ?
[16:28] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, the only
[16:28] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, are the xfce printer settings you mentioned, the same as sudo -b system-config-printer?
[16:29] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, yes i just tryed
[16:30] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, ok. does your printer have a hostname? assuming it's "printer", try to ping printer.local
[16:30] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, i don't know the printer hostname
[16:30] <MoL0ToV> i try to print a configuration page
[16:31] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, scan avahi for available printers then :)
[16:31] <gpunk> some printer can be configured to not use dhcp
[16:32] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, also, which version of Ubuntu?
[16:32] <MoL0ToV> 18.04
[16:32] <Sven_vB> oh right, you might want to consider configuring your router to always assign the same IP to your printer (identified by its MAC).
[16:33] <Sven_vB> let's try avahi though because it's neat. :D
[16:33] <MoL0ToV> i use the android phone as router i cant configure dhcp
[16:33] <Sven_vB> the sane thing to do would be to put a real router in between.
[16:34] <MoL0ToV> i can't , i use thethering to surf the web
[16:34] <lorddoskias> i've installed ubuntu-server on a dell r610 with uefi boot enabled but i'm not able to boot ubuntu after the install it just drops to a grub shell
[16:35] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, let's pretend the tethering reason were valid. ;P do you know how to scan avahi?
[16:36] <MoL0ToV> no i don't know
[16:36]  * Sven_vB checks
[16:37] <Sven_vB> avahi-browse --ignore-local --no-db-lookup --all --terminate |& tee -- avahi-scan.txt
[16:37] <MoL0ToV> i want to configure a url to printer not a fixed ip address
[16:37] <Sven_vB> yeah let's see if we can construct a URL for your printer.
[16:37] <m1cr0st4t3> I have a website I'm hosting on a seperarte port for testing. How can change my broswer to listen to test.com on test.com:1234 instead of test.com:80? I am using firefox.
[16:37] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, avahi-scan.txt is zero byte
[16:38] <gpunk> it is not FF that listens
[16:38] <Sven_vB> m1cr0st4t3, usually "listen" is what the servers do. you could use firewall rules to redirect firefox's connection attempts to port 80 to the other port.
[16:38] <leftyfb> which would break all other sites
[16:38] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, is your printer on currently? =)
[16:38] <m1cr0st4t3> gpunk: Is there a simple way to set a rule that makes it always listen to test.com on 1234 instead of 80
[16:38] <gpunk> or configure the virtualhost / apache to listen on another port
[16:38] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, yes
[16:39] <Sven_vB> leftyfb, m1cr0st4t3, of course that firewall rule should be host specific.
[16:39] <m1cr0st4t3> gpunk: well my live version is on port 80 so I don't want to use that
[16:39] <Sven_vB> m1cr0st4t3, you could also configure a proxy that redirects the requests.
[16:39] <Sven_vB> m1cr0st4t3, putting the port in the URL isn't an option, is it?
[16:39] <gpunk> check virtualhost on apache website
[16:40] <m1cr0st4t3> Sven_vB: No because as soon as you click a link it goes back to live site
[16:40] <m1cr0st4t3> Sven_vB: A proxy server might work
[16:40] <Sven_vB> or fix the website.
[16:40] <leftyfb> m1cr0st4t3: setup the site elsewhere on port 80 and set an entry in your /etc/hosts to point your domain to the different ip
[16:40] <m1cr0st4t3> gpunk:  again I don't want to change it on the serverside I know how to do that already
[16:41] <leftyfb> m1cr0st4t3: what you're asking isn't trivial
[16:41] <m1cr0st4t3> leftyfb: this particular server only has one static ip
[16:41] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, are you sure avahi/bonjour is enabled on your printer? because it should show up in the scan if it were advertising.
[16:41] <leftyfb> m1cr0st4t3: so make a local server in a container or VM
[16:42] <m1cr0st4t3> leftyfb: I'm not onsite
[16:42] <leftyfb> m1cr0st4t3: local, as in your workstation
[16:43] <gpunk> m1cr0st4t3  site:xyz should work, clear up your browser's cache/cookies and retry
[16:43] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, is the phone network IPv4? are the first 3 octets of the DHCP IPs always the same?
[16:43] <m1cr0st4t3> leftyfb: It would take days to setup my laptop to mimick this server. I'll try a proxy server.
[16:44] <leftyfb> m1cr0st4t3: pretty sure you would need a reverse proxy
[16:44] <leftyfb> m1cr0st4t3: good luck
[16:44] <m1cr0st4t3> gpunk: Yes it will work on the inital page but as soon as I click a link it will go back to the original without the port
[16:44] <gpunk> oh i see
[16:44] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, ipv4 yes
[16:44] <gpunk> you ll have to edit the html pages to include the port then
[16:44] <gpunk> in the links
[16:44] <leftyfb> m1cr0st4t3: links should be relative
[16:44] <gpunk> thet is normal behavior
[16:45] <leftyfb> relative links should include the port
[16:45] <m1cr0st4t3> gpunk: Yeah I'm not doing that hense why I want to use a proxy
[16:45] <MoL0ToV> in wondows 10 the printer works and uses network name to configure the printer so if the ip changes is ok
[16:45] <alterjsive> why is it that everytime I get a kernell update, i can't boot anymore with raid 1
[16:45] <alterjsive> software raid 1
[16:46] <alterjsive> bios software raid 1*
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: what do you normally have to do to restore your raid?
[16:48] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, there is nothing wrong with my raid, it's intact according to intel raid tooling
[16:48] <alterjsive> when I boot windows
[16:49] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: that didn't answer my question, what are you doing to get it working again with Ubuntu?
[16:49] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, I can choose to switch to master or slave in the bios in case anything goes wrong
[16:50] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, I tried boot-repair
[16:50] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, to be honest i don't understand how software raid works, but my bios is supposed to handle it for me
[16:52] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: I don't believe it is software raid... typically a bios control means there is a chip involved.
[16:53] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, try check the printer options for avahi/bonjour and enable it if you find it. also check the hostname. and see if you could configure a static IP, because that would be the next easiest thing besides avahi.
[16:53] <alterjsive> pragmaticenigma, I can reinstall kubuntu again and again, it works for a while and then it just doesn;t boot anymore
[16:54] <MoL0ToV> Sven_vB, i print only for windows. tomorrow i downgrade to 16.04 that works perfectly
[16:54] <Sven_vB> MoL0ToV, good luck then. :)
[16:57] <pragmaticenigma> alterjsive: I think the issue lies more in how your machine is configured than it being an Ubuntu specific problem. If this is a software raid, then Ubuntu would need to run software to manage the software raid to ensure it's not corrupting the raid.
[16:58] <steven> morning guys, how can I change the global nameservers on ubuntu servers (18.04) for some odd reason systemd-resolve --status lists a global server that doesnt exist anymore and I think thats why I have issues with the networking process
[16:58] <steven> it used to exist, I changed it and removed the line from interfaces.d/interface but for some reason its.. cached?
[16:58] <gpunk> edit /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:59] <pragmaticenigma> steven: caching is what I was going to assume
[16:59] <Sven_vB> steven, do you use network manager to configure your network?
[16:59] <nacc> steven: the interfaces file is only read at ifup/ifdown time
[16:59] <nacc> steven: so unless you reset networking, i don't think it will have any effect
[16:59] <nacc> steven: what gpunk said, although if you're using systemd-resolve, you may need to do something ele
[17:00] <nacc> steven: `sudo systemd-resolve --flush-caches` maybe? i'd read the manpage
[17:00] <nacc> alterjsive: wait, you're using software raid or fake raid?
[17:01] <nacc> alterjsive: your bios has nothing to do with software raid
[17:06] <phill> hey guys, I'm affected by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1742769 how do I iuse that patch?
[17:06] <phill> sorry, wrong link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1742750
[17:07] <gpunk> wait for it ...
[17:08] <Sven_vB> phill, the thread says the fix was released in january
[17:08] <gpunk> you ll have to download pulse audio sources and it s dependencies's sources
[17:08] <gpunk> patch it
[17:08] <gpunk> and recompile it
[17:09] <phill> Sven_vB: your'e right :-)
[17:09] <Sven_vB> phill, if I understand the change log excerpt correctly, any PulseAudio >= 1:11.1-1ubuntu4 should already have that patch included.
[17:09] <thinky> hi there
[17:09] <steven> flusing didn't help and its not in any of the configs in /etc either.
[17:09] <thinky> i am using dual boot with win10 and ubuntu 18.04
[17:10] <thinky> but comparing windows ubuntu is really heavy and not stable
[17:10] <thinky> increasing cpu temp
[17:10] <thinky> i keep it uptodate but no improvement
[17:10] <Sven_vB> phill, also it looks like the patch is about just a config file /etc/pulse/default.pa , so you wouldn't need to re-compile anything, just edit that config and fix the newlines.
[17:10] <thinky> any advise?
[17:11] <thinky> hello?
[17:11] <Sven_vB> thinky, is the CPU temperature your concern? or too much overall activity?
[17:11] <thinky> well it just feels too heavy and slower
[17:12] <thinky> plus cpu temp
[17:12] <Sven_vB> what do you mean with "heavier"? reaction time to user input?
[17:12] <thinky> for example while i am on firefox - facebook it scrolls wavy
[17:12] <thinky> not smooth
[17:12] <lolcat-007> hello, i have problem with bluetooth speaker ubuntu bluetooth audio lag after i pause the audio player
[17:12] <lolcat-007> anyhelp
[17:12] <Sven_vB> thinky, check whether there are better graphics drivers available
[17:13] <thinky> Sven_vB:  how can i check? i am using thinkpad x201 with intel integrated graphics
[17:13] <Sven_vB> lolcat-007, I had the same problem. I somewhat solved it by having another player constantly play very quiet noise.
[17:14] <pragmaticenigma> lolcat-007: Bluetooth uses a buffer to transmit audio... the delay is the bluetooth device finishing playing back what's in the buffer
[17:14] <Sven_vB> thinky, should be in the system update settings
[17:15] <thinky> it says no additional drivers available
[17:15] <Sven_vB> lolcat-007, oh right, is it a general lag or does the lag increase when the audio channel was idle for a while?
[17:16] <Sven_vB> thinky, keep a terminal with htop open and see if your system might be overloaded, or start to overload once you scroll.
[17:16] <alterjsive> sorry lost connection, it was fakeraid btw
[17:16] <lolcat-007> Sven_vB, no it just an audio lag when i pause the media player even i have lag in youtube
[17:17] <Sven_vB> lolcat-007, so you pause and audio continues to play for a few seconds? then unpause and it takes a few seconds until audio plays again?
[17:17] <thinky> Sven_vB: only 1 tab is open in firefox and 2 terminal screen
[17:17] <thinky> cpu usage is over 60%
[17:18] <thinky> it increases 90% ..
[17:18] <Sven_vB> thinky, as long as system load is below 1, CPU's not a problem.
[17:18] <gpunk> can you run top to see what eating up the cpu ?
[17:18] <thinky> firefox is using 90%
[17:19] <Sven_vB> thinky, what are the loads?
[17:19] <lolcat-007> Sven_vB, no what i did is stop the bluetooth device and connect the speaker with the audio jack to the port of my computer but i really want to fix the issue
[17:19] <gpunk> what ubuntu do you have ? is it up to date ?
[17:19] <thinky> Sven_vB: load avarage is 1.77
[17:20] <Sven_vB> thinky, I'll check which of them is which
[17:20] <thinky> ok
[17:21] <Sven_vB> thinky, ok the left one is the most recent. (1 minute / 5 min / 15 min) does it look like load is going up or down?
[17:22] <thinky> load is 2.04 - 1.74 now
[17:22] <thinky> when i move mouse it increases
[17:22] <thinky> when i dont touch laptop it decreases
[17:23] <thinky> now 1.38 - 1.59
[17:23] <Sven_vB> lolcat-007, yeah there are at least 3 kinds of delay in BT audio, so we'll need to know which of them you have
[17:23] <thinky> 1.15 - 1.56
[17:23] <thinky> 1.05 - 1.53
[17:23] <Jordan_U> alterjsive: Please run Boot Info Script from here: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces. That will help make certain things more clear, like which drives are part of your FakeRAID, which OSs are installed on top of the FakeRAID, what kind of metadata is in use for the FakeRAID, etc.
[17:23] <thinky> 1.20 - 1.53
[17:24] <Sven_vB> thinky, close firefox and see if it settles down
[17:24] <Sven_vB> thinky, so we know whether it's a firefox problem or your system is just busy itself
[17:24] <thinky> yes significiantly decreased
[17:24] <thinky> 0.65 - 1.30
[17:25] <thinky> f.k firefox %^&*
[17:25] <thinky> 0.46 - 1.20
[17:25] <Sven_vB> well 0.6 is quite high for an idle system
[17:25] <thinky> 0.45
[17:25] <thinky> 0.41
[17:25] <thinky> 0.38
[17:26] <Sven_vB> yeah it takes a while to adapt since it's calculated over minutes
[17:26] <thinky> 0.36
[17:26] <lolcat-007> Sven_vB, ok just tell me what do you need to know in order so solved the problem
[17:26] <lolcat-007> ?
[17:26] <thinky> gnome-shell cpu usage is high
[17:26] <alterjsive> Jordan_U, sorry i'm exhausted, I gave up for now I reinstalled my system again. I bookmarked your page , thanks ! it's a fight for another day
[17:27] <thinky> not stable jumps between 7% to 50%+
[17:27] <thinky> usr/bin/gnome-shell
[17:28] <Sven_vB> lolcat-007, keep a music player ready (paused), connect the BT device, unpause the music, count in your head (or stopwatch if you like) until you hear it playing; let it play a few more seconds; then pause and count how long it takes until music stops.
[17:29] <Sven_vB> lolcat-007, then quit the player, let the sound rest for a few minutes more, start the player again and test both reaction times again.
[17:30] <Sven_vB> thinky, do you want/need the special effects that gnome gives? else you might try a more light-weight DE
[17:32] <Sven_vB> thinky, also there may be a chance you can find tweaks for your graphics settings online. and check whether other browsers can render more smoothly; in that case your firefox settings might be suboptimal.
[17:33] <thinky> well i really dont need visual effects
[17:33] <Sven_vB> thinky, give xfce a try :)
[17:34] <wtflux> hi all i just installed an ubuntu server o/s on a virtualbox vm and im trying to get a NAT network adapter up and running here... so far i've added the interface to /etc/networking/interfaces and i now see the interface in ifconfig -a but i dont know how to restart the networking service...
[17:34] <wtflux> sudo service networking restart is not working
[17:34] <nacc> wtflux: what version of ubuntu?
[17:34] <wtflux> 4.15.0-34
[17:35] <wtflux> that's what uname -a is returning
[17:35] <nacc> wtflux: that's your kernel, `lsb_release -sd`
[17:35] <wtflux> 18..04.1 LTS
[17:35] <nacc> wtflux: i'm guessing that's 18.04. If it's a fresh install of 18.04 server, then you are using netplan, not ifupdown, by default
[17:35] <thinky> well i was happy with Unity :/
[17:35] <wtflux> yes thats right ifupdown is not installed
[17:35] <nacc> wtflux: meaning /e/n/i is not used at all by default any longer
[17:35] <wtflux> oh, ok.
[17:35] <thinky> wtf changing to gnome
[17:36] <nacc> wtflux: you may want to seek guidance in #ubuntu-server, but the 18.04 release note and netplan.io have guide
[17:36] <nacc> *guides
[17:36] <nacc> thinky: you can still use unity. just not the default.
[17:36] <nacc> thinky: and please stick to support topics.
[17:38] <ledeni> wtflux: try 'sudo systemctl restart network.service'
[17:39] <ledeni> wtflux: check 'sudo systemctl status network.service'
[17:40] <wtflux> that returns a "Failed to restart network.service: Unit network.service not found"
[17:40] <nacc> it's networking.service, ledeni
[17:40] <nacc> and network.target (confusingly)
[17:40] <ledeni> nacc: ok
[17:40] <nacc> systemctl also has tabcomplete, which you should both use :)
[17:41] <thinky> brb
[17:43] <wtflux> the file /etc/netplan/networkd is blank on my system.. is that correct? shouldnt it be filled with some comments and perhaps a sample?
[17:43] <nacc> wtflux: why would that be the filename?
[17:43] <nacc> wtflux: netplan config files end in .yaml
[17:43] <nacc> wtflux: did you read the release notes, or netplan.io?
[17:44] <cristian_c> hello
[17:44] <wtflux> im reading netplan.io
[17:44] <cristian_c> I've tried to blacklist a module in 18.04
[17:45] <ryanxm> anyone have any exp netbooting ubuntu over a usb eth dongle? it doesnt seem to include the r8152 driver and I am trying to figure out the best way to load it -- thanks
[17:45] <cristian_c> I've put a blacklist line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:45] <nacc> ryanxm: you would need to put it in the initramfs that you are netbooting
[17:45] <nacc> ryanxm: and then possibly alter some scripts to ensure it is loaded (if it doesn't work automatically)
[17:46] <nacc> cristian_c: ok (hint, it helps to put your question in one line. you've written three, and yet to state a problem)
[17:46] <cristian_c> but the module continues to be loaded at every boot, so I've tried also to type sudo update-initramfs -u, no success
[17:46] <ryanxm> nacc: I was hopping that wasn't the best solution; been trying that and havn't had the best luck repacking the initramfs
[17:46] <nacc> ryanxm: not sure what other solution would exist. If you are netbooting, there's nothing local. So you need to load over the network, which means you need networking to load the rest of the system.
[17:47] <nacc> cristian_c: i assume with more paramters than just -u ?
[17:48] <cristian_c> nacc: I've tried also to use blacklist method in grub command line, no success. Unfortunately, 18.04 continues to ignore blaclklist. Any ideas?
[17:48] <cristian_c> nacc: and yes, I've tried just -u in update-initramfs command
[17:48] <nacc> cristian_c: are you booting the 'newest' kernel?
[17:49] <ryanxm> nacc: true, it loads the files fine, but when it boots into the initramfs to being the installation process it fails detecting the network, kinda funny.  do you know of any tools that can help me load a driver into the initramfs or am i stuck unpacking and repacking manually?
[17:49] <nacc> cristian_c: -u without arguments only updates the newest one, which might not be what you want
[17:49] <cristian_c> nacc: yes
[17:49] <vavkamil> hello
[17:49] <cristian_c> I've loaded the first kernel on the top pf grub list
[17:49] <nacc> ryanxm: if you drop to a shell there can you get the network configured manually?
[17:49] <cristian_c> *of
[17:49] <nacc> cristian_c: did that match the one that you rebuilt hte initramfs for?
[17:50] <ryanxm> nacc: since the netboot initramfs doesn't include the driver, no, not that I could see
[17:50] <cristian_c> nacc: I can check it again, but I think so
[17:50] <nacc> ryanxm: sorry, i thought you said you had repacked it? or did you mean the stock initramfs above?
[17:50] <cristian_c> (typing update-initramfs, again)
[17:51] <nacc> cristian_c: how did you blacklist on the kernel commandline?
[17:51] <ioria> ryanxm, some adapters are supported by the mini.iso; i did it with a ASIX AX88772  (asix module)
[17:52] <nacc> ioria: oh good point
[17:52] <nacc> ryanxm: yeah, which image are you trying to netboot?
[17:52] <ryanxm> nacc: no worries, ideally I would like to not have to unpack the initrd.gz file, drop the driver in and repack (as I have yet to succeed with that)
[17:52] <cristian_c> nacc: at runtime, by 'e' key, and appended blacklist line after quiet splash
[17:52] <nacc> ryanxm: sure, understood
[17:52] <ryanxm> nacc: the stock ubuntu one -- let me get you the source url if you need it
[17:53] <nacc> cristian_c: yes, i know "how" you did it mechaniicaly. I meant what exact syntax you used.
[17:53] <nacc> ryanxm: desktop or server?
[17:53] <cristian_c> I don't remember exactly, but I've tested two ways
[17:53] <ryanxm> ioria: thanks for the idea; ill take a look at mini.iso - is that officially supported by ubuntu?
[17:53] <nacc> cristian_c: well, only one way actually works :)
[17:53] <ioria> ryanxm, yes
[17:54] <ryanxm> nacc: this would be for a desktop install, but aren't all netboots thin, i.e. server?
[17:54] <cristian_c> nacc: I've not stored the two strings, and if I've got it from askubuntu
[17:54] <nacc> ryanxm: well, it depends on *what* you netboot :)
[17:54] <nacc> ryanxm: you can netboot with just a kernel and initrd
[17:54] <nacc> cristian_c: ok, please find what you did and put it in the channel when you can
[17:54] <zetheroo> I have been using gthumb for years in Ubuntu and really like it but have also experienced a lot of app crashes and freezes which all too often freeze up the whole OS (Ubuntu). It doesn't happen immediately when starting to use gthumb, but rather it usually happens after going through a dozen or so photos and doing some basic color editing and saving. It's like over a period of some minutes performance gets gradually worse until it comple
[17:54] <zetheroo> tely freezes up and takes the whole OS down with it. Anyone else experience this kind of behaviour?
[17:55] <cristian_c> nacc: for example: nameofmodule.blacklist=yes
[17:56] <ryanxm> ioria: thanks, i will def look into it
[17:56] <cristian_c> tried also modprobe.blacklist=nameofmodule
[17:57] <ioria> ok
[17:57] <ryanxm> nacc: hmm  I am booting the initrd.gz from here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/
[17:57] <ryanxm> possibly can try to find the desktop version - that would be ideal since that should have all the drivers preloaded that I would need
[17:58] <hpclemons> Hello
[18:09] <fub> Hi. Is this a gnome or xfce DE: https://twitter.com/taviso/status/1044275800436957188 ?
[18:09] <ryanxm> fub: looks like xfce
[18:10] <ryanxm> nacc, ioria: thanks for the info, Im gonna dig into this more and try out a few things -- hopefully I make a breakthrough, but should be pointed in the right direction now -- thanks a ton for the help!
[18:11] <nacc> cristian_c: the former is not correct (nameofmodule.blacklist), afaik
[18:11] <ioria> ryanxm, no problem
[18:12] <nacc> ryanxm: right, that's what i was thinking -- the desktop initrd may be more in line with what you need
[18:13] <cristian_c> nacc: both don't work
[18:13] <nacc> cristian_c: which version of ubuntu again?
[18:14] <ryanxm> nacc: offhand do you know where it is on archive.ubuntu.com?
[18:15] <cristian_c> nacc: always 18.04
[18:17] <motte> hi, does anyone have any tips on getting a realtek 8188 ftv based usb wifi adapter to work?
[18:18] <nisankhindia_> motte: connect it and try " sudo ubuntu-drivers list "
[18:18] <nacc> ryanxm: sorry, not off the top of my ehad
[18:18] <nacc> cristian_c: ok
[18:18] <motte>  the adapter shows up in dmesg and lsus
[18:18] <ryanxm> nacc: no worries, thanks again for the info
[18:19] <Epx998> Is there a good archive mirror for the current cosmic dev? the debian-install really doesnt like the ones im using
[18:19] <nacc> motte: so what is the issue then?
[18:19] <nacc> Epx998: #ubuntu+1, use the main archive?
[18:19] <motte> it doesnt show up in lshw -C network, or in iwconfig
[18:19] <Epx998> trying that, gives me bad archive mirror
[18:19] <Epx998> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/cosmic/ right?
[18:20] <nisankhindia_> motte: what is the output of " sudo ubuntu-drivers list " after connecting the USB wifi card of realtek
[18:20] <motte> ubuntu-drivers list didnt return anything
[18:20] <nacc> Epx998: id assume so, but please switch to #ubuntu+1
[18:21] <nisankhindia_> motte:  so you are not able to use that card to connect to any wifi / access point ??
[18:21] <motte> no
[18:21] <nisankhindia_> motte: than what is the issue ???
[18:22] <nacc> nisankhindia_: i think they meant 'no, they are not able to use that card to connect'
[18:23] <motte> yeah thats what i meant.. i cannot see APs or connect to any
[18:23] <nisankhindia_> motte: what is the output of this " sudo lshw -C network | grep 'Wireless' "
[18:24] <motte> doesnt show the realtek usb card, only the built in intel interface of the laptop
[18:25] <nacc> motte: any messages/errors in `dmesg` ?
[18:25] <nisankhindia_> motte: just show us the sanpshot
[18:25] <nisankhindia_> motte: confirm first any soft/hard block restricted the card to work properly
[18:26] <motte> https://i.imgur.com/yOJu55k.png
[18:26] <nisankhindia_> motte: as you have two wifi cards in the same system now ( after conneting the USB one )
[18:27] <motte> what do you mean by soft/hard block? like a hardware switch? the usb card has none
[18:27] <nisankhindia_> motte: soft blcok is handled by kernel or system itself it does not require any physical switch
[18:27] <nacc> `rfkill list` can help
[18:28] <motte> rfkill list shows that nothing is blocked
[18:29] <nisankhindia_> motte: after running the " sudo rfkill list " what is there mentioned as wireless device
[18:29] <nisankhindia_> motte: or say Wireless LAN
[18:30] <motte> 0: phy0: Wireless LAN, i assume thats the built in wifi
[18:30] <nisankhindia_> motte: there should be another option about wireless
[18:31] <nisankhindia_> motte: wait
[18:31] <nisankhindia_> motte: comparing it with my test system
[18:33] <nisankhindia_> motte; yup you have to disable the inbuilt card first
[18:34] <motte> soft block by rfkill or hardware switch?
[18:35] <nisankhindia_> motte: what are the output of " sudo lsusb " , sudo lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net "
[18:38] <nisankhindia_> motte: there are several ways to do so , one is by identifying the cards and using simple ifconfig command you can achieve so , e.g if i do execute ifconfig it will show the interface name .. than we need to take it down by simple " sudo ifconfig <YOUR INTERNAL WIFI> down "
[18:39] <nisankhindia_> motte: as of now i have tested that in my system like this ( with two wifi cards ) https://ibb.co/gyYo1p
[18:39] <ubuntutr> hi
[18:39] <motte> the usb card doesnt show up on lspci and shows up on lsusb as Bus 002 Device 010: ID 0bda:f179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp
[18:39] <ubuntutr> how i can install for ubuntu install mod_geoip GeoIP GeoIP-devel GeoIP-data zlib-devel
[18:39] <ubuntutr> ?
[18:40] <nisankhindia_> motte: now run " ifconfig "
[18:40] <ubuntutr> how i can install for ubuntu install mod_geoip GeoIP GeoIP-devel GeoIP-data zlib-devel
[18:40] <nisankhindia_> motte: lspci is not for USB connected devices
[18:40] <motte> yes i know, but you told me to run that
[18:40] <nacc> !repeat | ubuntutr
[18:41] <nacc> ubuntutr: specify the packages that contain what you need to apt-get
[18:41] <motte> usb card doesnt show up on ifconfig either
[18:41] <nisankhindia_> motte: lspci means LIST THE PCI DEVICES
[18:41] <motte> yes i know..
[18:41] <nisankhindia_> motte: just paste the ifconfig output
[18:42] <nacc> nisankhindia_: motte, you'll want to pass -a to ifconfig
[18:42] <motte> you literally told me to run sudo lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net
[18:42] <nacc> (or use `ip a` which is the more likely to work everywhere command)
[18:42] <nisankhindia_> motte: that to know about more Internal card
[18:43] <nacc> nisankhindia_: also, neither of those commands need sudo, afaik
[18:43] <motte> https://pastebin.com/az6j5p0g
[18:43] <nacc> motte: is that ifconfig or ifconfig -a ?
[18:43] <motte> ifconfig
[18:43] <nisankhindia_> motte: by taking down the card using ifconfig , or place the internal card in blacklist , or dactive the internal card driver
[18:44] <nacc> motte: is there any difference in output with -a ?
[18:44] <motte> ifconfig -a is exactly the same
[18:44] <nacc> motte: ok
[18:44] <nisankhindia_> motte : You can blacklist the card ( internal ) but that i would not suggest
[18:45] <nisankhindia_> motte: rather deactivate the internal card driver
[18:45] <motte> i tried blocking the internal wifi with sudo rfkill block 0, after that rfkill list showed the card as soft blocked
[18:45] <qwebirc95665> Hello, i try to transfer a VM-image to aa real hard drive, but i cant even see the hd. So i tried to google and found "sudo fdisk -l" I tried it, but it does give me some weard output instead of the easy thing i saw on the web. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zjccdScX4y/ can someone help me how i can find the other harddrive and mount it?
[18:46] <qwebirc95665> i found this on the web: https://askubuntu.com/questions/177825/how-to-mount-an-external-hdd
[18:47] <ubuntutr> how i can install for ubuntu install mod_geoip GeoIP GeoIP-devel GeoIP-data zlib-devel
[18:47] <nisankhindia_> motte: if it is intel card ( internal ) than " sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi; sudo modprobe -b iwlwifi "
[18:47] <qwebirc95665> this was my startingpoint
[18:47] <motte> yeah that worked
[18:47] <ubuntutr> how i can install geoip ???
[18:48] <motte> i mean it disabled the internal wifi, still cant see the usb card
[18:48] <nisankhindia_> motte: this means you have deactivated the internal card permanently
[18:48] <nisankhindia_> motte: sudo modprobe -r iwlwifi
[18:48] <nacc> ubuntutr: please stop asking the same question over and over again.
[18:48] <nacc> ubuntutr: i have told you what you need to do. If you would like to ask a more specific question, please go ahead.
[18:48] <nisankhindia_> motte: you may activate the same using the same method ref search man page of modprobe
[18:49] <nacc> qwebirc95665: what do you mean, 'can't see the hd'?
[18:49] <nisankhindia_> motte: restart the system , than plug your USB card
[18:49] <nacc> qwebirc95665: there are two disks mentioned in your fdisk output
[18:49] <qwebirc95665> nacc inside nautilus
[18:50] <nacc> qwebirc95665: well, is it mounted?
[18:50] <nacc> qwebirc95665: if it's not mounted, nautilus is the wrong tool
[18:50] <qwebirc95665> nacc how can i found it, i tried like on my rooted phon under /mnt/ but there was nothing
[18:50] <nacc> qwebirc95665: well, again, is it mounted?
[18:50] <seven-eleven> hi
[18:51] <qwebirc95665> and why does it give me so much loops
[18:51] <nacc> qwebirc95665: it would only be in /mnt or anywhere else in the fs hierarchy, if it was mounted
[18:51] <nacc> qwebirc95665: why does that matter? probably snaps.
[18:52] <qwebirc95665> @nacc how can i tell if it is mounted?
[18:52] <motte> nisankhindia_: did that, still cant see it
[18:52] <nacc> qwebirc95665: look in `mount` output for the disk you are looking for
[18:53] <nisankhindia_> motte: For all distros: git clone https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new.git cd rtlwifi_new sudo make install sudo modprobe -r <<YOUR WIRELESS DRIVER CODE>> sudo modprobe <<YOUR WIRELESS DRIVER CODE>>  #### Option configuration If it turns out that your system needs one of the configuration options, then do the following:  vim /etc/modprobe.d/<<YOUR WIRELESS DRIVER CODE>>.conf   There, enter the line below: `options <<YOUR WIR
[18:53] <nisankhindia_> motte: >>=<value>`
[18:53] <motte> my card is rtl8188ftv
[18:54] <nisankhindia_> motte: realtek brand
[18:55] <motte> yes
[18:55] <qwebirc95665> @nacc i tried "mount | grep ntfs" but no output
[18:56] <nacc> motte: do you know that the adpter is actually supported under windows? https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Realtek says it was first seen only last month
[18:56] <qwebirc95665> @nacc since i know its a ntfs harddrive
[18:56] <nacc> qwebirc95665: ok, so it's possibly not mounted
[18:56] <nacc> qwebirc95665: i'm really confused, though. Was your VM windows? Or are you planning on overwriting that disk?
[18:56] <qwebirc95665> i think yes
[18:57] <qwebirc95665> i am planing to override that disk, but to safe some data first
[18:57] <nacc> qwebirc95665: i see. then yes, you may need to mount it by hand
[18:57] <nacc> qwebirc95665: is it an 8G disk or so?
[18:58] <guardian> hello, I'm using 18.04 desktop. I'm used to etckeeper when using other distros. With Ubuntu, is it normal that I see differences in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants even without installing packages? It seems a simple reboot creates a lot of noise there
[18:58] <qwebirc95665> no its more like an 1tb harddrive
[18:59] <qwebirc95665> the 8gb stick is my lifesystem
[18:59] <qwebirc95665> with some 2gbcryptostorage in it
[18:59] <dimm> hello, All! what start point to solve trouble - after i enter login and password os go to sleep mode. Then i power on once again and working fine
[18:59] <dimm> ?
[18:59] <motte> nacc: so youre saying it has no support under linux? or are you asking if it works under windows? havent tried that, but i assume it would
[18:59] <nisankhindia_> motte: do your system shows this output after running lsusb
[18:59] <nisankhindia_> motte: result something like Bus 002 Device 010: ID 0bda:f179
[18:59] <nacc> qwebirc95665: you have two disks in your system, per the output you gave before, a 1TB drive with an EFI partition, two LVM VGs and a encrypted partition. and an 8G disk with 1.8G of empty space and an EFI partition. I don't see any ntfs partitions.
[19:00] <motte> i posted a screenshot a while ago with output of lsusb.
[19:00] <nacc> motte: i'm asking why you think it shold work under linux? :)
[19:00] <motte> well, it was advertised as such, also i have yet to come across an usb device that doesnt
[19:01] <nacc> motte: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1008669/install-realtek-usb-driver-0bdaf179-on-ubuntu-16-04
[19:01] <nacc> comment from feb 24 says not supported in linux?
[19:01] <nacc> motte: where is it advertised as such?
[19:01] <motte> oh right
[19:01] <qwebirc95665> nacc thats my problem, i am confused, since i know there shuld be one
[19:01] <deepfreez> Hello, :) what software you use in ubuntu to manage all your servers (ssh user/ip/pass) ?
[19:02] <motte> thanks a lot. i bought it from ebay for like 3 dollars, not even surprised. at least i know now
[19:02] <nacc> motte: that would be my guess, at least, i'm not a realtek person :)
[19:02] <nacc> qwebirc95665: i don't know why you think that?
[19:02] <nisankhindia_> motte: read larry Finger notes how to make it working in linux ( larry finger is the offixcial developer and maintainer for realtek drivers for linux )
[19:02] <nacc> qwebirc95665: i can only report to you what your system reports
[19:03] <motte> alright, thanks for your help!
[19:03] <nisankhindia_> motte: according to him it works with all distro
[19:03] <ioria> motte, confirm. not supported. sy
[19:04] <nacc> nisankhindia_: link?
[19:04] <qwebirc95665> nacc what can i do to see this harddrive?
[19:04] <nisankhindia_> nacc: linux kernel community
[19:04] <nacc> nisankhindia_: ...
[19:04] <nacc> nisankhindia_: so no, you don't have a link?
[19:04] <nisankhindia_> nacc: patchwork , you need to have kernel.org login
[19:05] <nisankhindia_> nacc: and i cant allow with my ID
[19:05] <nacc> qwebirc95665: what hard drive? the 1tb hard drive is there. There is no ntfs partition listed
[19:05] <nacc> nisankhindia_: if you can't provide a link (hey, guess what, you're not the only one with a patchwork login!), then please don't provide info here.
[19:05] <qwebirc95665> there should be 2 harddrives, exactly the same size
[19:05] <nisankhindia_> nacc: you can ask him at github link https://github.com/lwfinger
[19:05] <nacc> qwebirc95665: there is only one listed
[19:05] <dimm> i imagine that ontebook got to sleep mode because i run it in dock-station with closed cap
[19:05] <qwebirc95665> nacc how can i list the other?
[19:05] <nacc> qwebirc95665: so that's what you've been trying to say? there should be a second disk showing up?
[19:06] <qwebirc95665> NACC YES
[19:06] <qwebirc95665> srry capos
[19:06] <nacc> qwebirc95665: check `dmesg` to see. Is it an internal disk? or USB?
[19:06] <nacc> qwebirc95665: sorry, that was not clear to me before
[19:06] <nisankhindia_> nacc: kernel.org does not allow outsiders to be in that side so ask him at github
[19:07] <nacc> nisankhindia_: ... i have no idea what you're talking about now. If you can't provide a link (even one that requires authentication), then plese don't cite things.
[19:07] <nacc> nisankhindia_: the git repo you provided earlier, rtlwifi_new, does not mention the ftv device, but mentions many others.
[19:07] <nisankhindia_> nacc: read the link .. https://github.com/lwfinger
[19:08] <nisankhindia_> nacc: this is Larry Fingers official repository at github and at issu section anyone can see and ask or post the issues
[19:08] <nacc> nisankhindia_: no. Provide a direct link or please stop. You are not helping anyone at this point.
[19:08] <qwebirc95665> nacc https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QpN8D78JR9/
[19:08] <nacc> qwebirc95665: only two disks detected by your kernel (sda 1tb and sdb usb 8g)
[19:09] <qwebirc95665> wow you can read very fast
[19:09] <nacc> qwebirc95665: i just knew what to look for in the output
[19:09] <nisankhindia_> nacc : read the kernel.org wiki and if they allow you or anyone else to login to the portal than .. i have no issues
[19:10] <nacc> nisankhindia_: ok, seriously, just stop.
[19:10] <qwebirc95665> nacc how can i get ubuntu to read the other harddisk?
[19:10] <nacc> qwebirc95665: is it an internal disk?
[19:10] <qwebirc95665> yes
[19:11] <nisankhindia_> nacc: wait than showing you the snapshot
[19:11] <qwebirc95665> i pluged it in after boot
[19:11] <nacc> qwebirc95665: you plugged an internal disk in after boot??
[19:11] <qwebirc95665> yes, like an usbstick
[19:11] <qwebirc95665> is this bad?
[19:11] <nacc> qwebirc95665: it's a usb drive?
[19:11] <qwebirc95665> no
[19:12] <qwebirc95665> its like sata and power thing
[19:12] <nacc> qwebirc95665: did it work before?
[19:12] <qwebirc95665> yes
[19:12] <qwebirc95665> under windoof
[19:12] <qwebirc95665> but it was not mine windows. so i wanted to reset it
[19:13] <qwebirc95665> but the monitor is broken and windows didnt want to give a signal to my external monitor
[19:13] <qwebirc95665> so i installed ubuntu, and it worked
[19:13] <nacc> qwebirc95665: and you're sure you didn't accidentally, say, insatll over the windows installation?
[19:13] <qwebirc95665> i cnt boot with the oher harddrive, since it want to boott the windows
[19:13] <qwebirc95665> and i cant install windoof blindly
[19:14] <qwebirc95665> i cant acces bios to disable this harddisk
[19:14] <nacc> qwebirc95665: so if both disks are plugged in during boot, it fails to boot (doesn't show grub, just goes into windows and fails?)
[19:14] <qwebirc95665> and if i boot with both it will boot windows
[19:14] <qwebirc95665> yes
[19:14] <qwebirc95665> shows nothing
[19:14] <nacc> qwebirc95665: are you sure the controller in question supports hotplug, etc.
[19:14] <qwebirc95665> so i have to unplug to boot
[19:15] <nacc> qwebirc95665: you should be able to specify a disk to boot in bios, why cant you access the bios?
[19:15] <qwebirc95665> internal monitor of laptop is dead
[19:15] <qwebirc95665> and laptop has a grafic card, that seems to need drivers
[19:15] <qwebirc95665> how can i see if this has hotplug?
[19:15] <nisankhindia_> motte: we are here to sedn you the whole new driver package for your distribution , mail us your email id at nisankh@fedoraproject.org or Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net , link will be emailed to you shortly
[19:16] <qwebirc95665> bios = blank screen
[19:16] <nacc> qwebirc95665: at this point, i dont' know if your second disk should show up or not, if you plug it in at runtime. I'm not sure we can help you
[19:16] <qwebirc95665> how can i find out if this supports hotplug?
[19:18] <cristian_c> nacc: any ideas?
[19:18] <qwebirc95665> its an aspire v3-772g if this helps
[19:18] <ioria> qwebirc95665 in bios
[19:18] <qwebirc95665> i am blind in bios, i cant see it
[19:19] <ioria> qwebirc95665 sata settings
[19:19] <ioria> qwebirc95665 what you mean 'you're blind' ?
[19:19] <qwebirc95665> i dont get a signal inside bios
[19:19] <qwebirc95665> my monitor goes to energy safe mode
[19:20] <R13ose> How come I getting this error "E: Failed to fetch https://repo.skype.com/deb/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2  File has unexpected size (2248 != 2459). Mirror sync in progress?"?
[19:20] <ioria> qwebirc95665  you mean 'i cannot access bios settings ' ?
[19:20] <qwebirc95665> i can access, but i cant see
[19:20] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: do you have a vga monitor?
[19:21] <qwebirc95665> yes, i tried vga and hdmi
[19:21] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: try to reset the MB maybe it's some setting
[19:21] <qwebirc95665> i even unpluged the internal monitor in the hope bios would show something
[19:21] <EriC^^> this is a laptop?
[19:22] <qwebirc95665> yes an Aspire V3-772G
[19:22] <nisankhindia_> R13ose: this is identical issue , no worries . just wait for few moments . it will be resolved by the package or repository mainatainer of skype
[19:22] <ioria> qwebirc95665, yep, remove for a minute or 2 the cmos battery :þ
[19:22] <nisankhindia_> R13ose: it may also show you weak md5 , sha etc etc
[19:23] <qwebirc95665> ok i will try, i will come back
[19:23] <ioria> qwebirc95665, joking man
[19:23] <qwebirc95665> ?
[19:24] <ioria> qwebirc95665, sy, i mean could be buried somewhere
[19:24] <qwebirc95665> may be it will then boot directly ubuntu without removinbg the oher partition
[19:24] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665:  you could modify the windows bootloader to put ubuntu
[19:24] <qwebirc95665> i am on ubuntu
[19:24] <EriC^^> using the bcdedit command
[19:25] <qwebirc95665> and if i could acces windows i would just backup my data there
[19:25] <EriC^^> can you briefly restate what you're trying to achieve/what the problem is?
[19:25] <qwebirc95665> i want to mount this NTFS harddrive with window s on it so safe data, then wipe it
[19:26] <qwebirc95665> if its in while boot, then i cant boot
[19:26] <EriC^^> ok so if you dont hot plug it, it's booting windows instead of ubuntu?
[19:26] <EriC^^> aha
[19:26] <EriC^^> use a live usb instead
[19:26] <EriC^^> did you try that?
[19:27] <qwebirc95665> yes, but windows is reinstallig itself and dont support a grafical signal, so iu am blind in windows
[19:27] <EriC^^> i mean use a live usb with the disk plugged in during boot, is it booting the live session?
[19:27] <qwebirc95665> hm, thats a good idea
[19:28] <qwebirc95665> it should otherwise i know its supporting hotplug
[19:28] <qwebirc95665> i will try and come back, thank you
[19:28] <EriC^^> when you hotplug it what happens in "dmesg" ?
[19:29] <EriC^^> try "dmesg -w" then hotplug it
[19:29] <qwebirc95665> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QpN8D78JR9/
[19:29] <qwebirc95665> ok
[19:30] <qwebirc95665> [ 4291.009774] audit: type=1400 audit(1537817391.800:1440): apparmor="DENIED" operation="create" profile="snap.konversation.konversation" pid=4825 comm=517420626561726572207468726561 family="netlink" sock_type="dgram" protocol=0 requested_mask="create" denied_mask="create"
[19:30] <qwebirc95665> this was the output
[19:30] <EriC^^> that's not related to it
[19:30] <EriC^^> let me see the paste 1 sec
[19:31] <ioria> qwebirc95665, only see a sda
[19:31] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: doesn't seem like it's seeing it plugged in at all
[19:31] <qwebirc95665> ok, then i will try life system,
[19:31] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: does 'udevadm monitor' show anything when you plug it in?
[19:32] <qwebirc95665> nothing
[19:33] <qwebirc95665> i try lifesysten,
[19:33] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: if the live usb does not boot, try pressing "F12" as soon as the PC starts, (spam it) then try various entries blindly
[19:33] <qwebirc95665> ok
[19:37] <guardian> hello, I'm using 18.04 desktop. I'm used to etckeeper when using other distros. With Ubuntu, is it normal that I see differences in /etc/systemd very often even without installing or upgrading packages? It seems a simple reboot creates a lot of noise there
[19:42] <nisankhindia_> guardian: yup it is normal , as etckeeper follows VCS to store
[19:42] <nisankhindia_> guardian : *repositories
[19:42] <guardian> but I mean, it's the first time I see so much changes without me interacting with apt
[19:43] <guardian> s/much/many
[19:44] <nisankhindia_> guardian: what kidn of changes you witnessed as according to VCS repo or something else
[19:45] <qwebirc95665> I'm back did not work
[19:45] <qwebirc95665> cant boot without remove windoof hdd
[19:45] <guardian> e.g. x2dcalculator-xxx.mount where xxx is a number
[19:45] <guardian> so for instance x2dcalculator-167.mount is deleted while x2dcalculator-238.mount appears
[19:46] <qwebirc95665> i cant boot with my life stick
[19:46] <qwebirc95665> F8 F10 or F12 did not work
[19:46] <guardian> or x2dthemes-791.mount appears but I don't even know what it is
[19:51] <qwebirc95665> EriC^^ i treid those 3 per key
[19:53] <nisankhindia_> guardian: network issue back again
[19:53] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:    how about hmmmm checked bios on booting USB stick?   or even check if safemode is ON, I think safemode ON disables usb booting, or check in BIOS to change the UEFI boot to CMS/Legacy
[19:53] <nisankhindia_> guardian: better you should report it to lauchpad etckeeper section
[19:53] <qwebirc95665> internal monitor is broken, cant see in bios
[19:54] <qwebirc95665> bpromt even vga does not work
[19:54] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: you could switch the efi files of windows and ubuntu
[19:54] <guardian> nisankhindia_: ok thanks
[19:54] <qwebirc95665> if i could acces the other harddrive with that windows, i would just format it
[19:55] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: you'd need to mount the efi partition in windows using diskpart, then backup /efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi and replace it it and rename the ubuntu efi file shimx64.efi to bootmgfw.efi and put it in the windows location
[19:55] <EriC^^> ah right
[19:56] <nisankhindia_> gaurdian: owner of etckeeper team in launchpad is https://launchpad.net/~ttx and link is https://launchpad.net/%7Eetckeeper
[19:56] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: did pressing F12 do anything at all?
[19:57] <qwebirc95665>  no, i hear tho other hdd boot every time
[19:57] <qwebirc95665> F8 F10 and F12 did nothing
[19:58] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: are you unable to boot using USB media ???
[19:58] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: try F2, i think it might be it
[19:59] <wtflux> hey guys with netplan can you still bring network adapters up and down using ifconfig? like ifconfig enp0s8 down ?
[19:59] <qwebirc95665>  no, i am just unable to boot from usb if a harddisk with a os is in my laptop
[20:00] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: make sure your BIOS secure moe is off , than make sure your USB media is formated using correct GPT ( GUID PARTITION TABLE ) and your BIOS is configured correctly to boot using USB devices
[20:01] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: ah it says F12 boot menu must be enabled in the BIOS, F2 is actually the bios key not boot menu key
[20:01] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   meaning the bios is in UEFI boot up, which disables external devices booting, IIRC due to safemode or some feature requiring a boot Key on the external device
[20:01] <qwebirc95665> yes it is UEFI
[20:01] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: you could try setting the laptop to legacy mode blindly
[20:01] <qwebirc95665> @<nisankhindia_> i cant see the bios
[20:02] <qwebirc95665> i didnt even saw the bios one time
[20:02] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: switch off the zsecure mode in BIOS otherwise no matter whatever you do it wont boot to anyother OS ( if secure boot option is there )
[20:02] <qwebirc95665> i dont want to boot to another os
[20:02] <qwebirc95665> i want to boot in ubuntu
[20:03] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: actually try to enable the F12 key blindly, i think this should work https://au.answers.acer.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6814/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xNTM3ODE5MzMwL2dlbi8xNTM3ODE5MzMwL3NpZC9mVU81azZxaGNYU05keUlWWWozbDd0MUJvcGtoMFByNXBuJTdFdVB0SjBRX2ZUUTVwREl5NEM1TWc0MDdUeU45cWRmZ2J0YUdIVDFEeWxXbSU3RXVGdUhSYkJLNE1hSExsSWhIbFNPNlo5NnhWU2NBNVlCJTdFTFQ4cmtpZ3clMjElMjE%3D
[20:03] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: read your system manual how to open BIOS settings
[20:03] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: name your system make and model ??
[20:03] <qwebirc95665> Aspire V3 772G
[20:03] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   that's not the issue, so long "secure boot" is ON in bios, external devices are blocked from booting due to lack of a boot key/hash to boot with
[20:03] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: qwebirc95665
[20:03] <nisankhindia_> wait
[20:04] <bprompt> qwebirc95665:   which I think is why you're not usb is not being sought to boot from by the system, not that the stick is bad or anything.
[20:05] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: generally F9, F10 for BIOS boot
[20:05] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665 and acer aspire series has an BIOS level security to blcok any other OS boot using USB ( secure boot mode )
[20:05] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: press F2, then right arrow key, then down down down, enter, down key, enter, right right right, enter enter then F10 and
[20:06] <EriC^^> watch the youtube video so its clearer what you're doing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oDZZ8yTij0
[20:06] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: if you are confused than check the official details at acer aspire community web site
[20:06] <EriC^^> if you've ever played mortal kombat it shouldn't be much harder than those brutality fatalities
[20:06] <EriC^^> those were hard O.o
[20:07] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: untill and unless you are not there and disable the secure boot mode , whatever you do system will not boot from USB
[20:08] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: secure boot is in the 0:47 of the video
[20:10] <qwebirc95665> ok i try the blind bios thing
[20:10] <qwebirc95665> ca later
[20:11] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: dont be blind with BIOS , mis configuration or BIOS causes system dead , so careful
[20:18] <qwebirc95665> EriC^^ did not work
[20:18] <qwebirc95665> i think another bios path
[20:19] <EriC^^> did you enable the f12 key?
[20:19] <EriC^^> did it do anything different? like if you press it and not do anything it stays waiting in bios mode?
[20:19] <qwebirc95665> no
[20:19] <qwebirc95665> it didnt restart after i tried to exit bios
[20:19] <EriC^^> ah
[20:20] <EriC^^> why doesn't windows boot currently?
[20:21] <qwebirc95665> it tried to reinstall
[20:21] <nisankhindia_> qwebirc95665: are you asking ABOUT WINDOWS HERE???
[20:21] <nacc> nisankhindia_: no they are not.
[20:21] <nacc> EriC^^: iirc, it doesn't drive their display or something
[20:21] <qwebirc95665> yes
[20:22] <EriC^^> aha interesting
[20:22] <nacc> nisankhindia_: and there is no reason to yell (caps).
[20:22] <nacc> EriC^^: and their internal display is broken :) it's a mess (IMO)
[20:22] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: can you maybe access a windows safe mode command prompt?
[20:22] <qwebirc95665> i dont even know
[20:22] <qwebirc95665> i cant see$
[20:23] <nacc> qwebirc95665: what files do you need from the windows disk so badly? have you tried plugging the disk in while still at grub, rather than once the system is booted?
[20:23] <JustAPerson> Anyone know a gnome plugin that implemnents "mouse follows focus", whereby when you alt tab between windows the cursor is centered in the newly focused window?
[20:23] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: do you have a windows installation usb?
[20:24] <qwebirc95665> no
[20:24] <JustAPerson> Usually the "focus follows mouse" feature in other WM implement this as well, but no the GNOME extension by the same name
[20:24] <EriC^^> try nacc 's suggestion of plugging in grub
[20:24] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: ^
[20:24] <nacc> qwebirc95665: my thinking being that at least then, linux will init the controller with the disk attached already
[20:24] <nacc> qwebirc95665: and it shouldn't matter to grub once it's already probed the disk
[20:25] <qwebirc95665> nacc yes i tried if i input the hdd 1-2 sec after powerbutton press i does ot boot it
[20:25] <qwebirc95665> *not
[20:25] <nacc> qwebirc95665: so if you plugged it in when the grub menu is shown, the system doesn't boot?
[20:25] <nacc> qwebirc95665: or do you not see grub?
[20:26] <qwebirc95665> i dont see grub
[20:26] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: look at number 6 here https://www.digitalcitizen.life/4-ways-boot-safe-mode-windows-10
[20:26] <qwebirc95665> the first thing i see is my cryptopasswordinput for fulldistencrypton
[20:28] <qwebirc95665> Preparing Automatic Repair wont show ether on screen
[20:28] <qwebirc95665> in safe mode i dont get my nvidea driver at all
[20:28] <cristian_c> nacc: any other ideas?
[20:28] <EriC^^> i say try nacc 's idea
[20:29] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: try holding shift to get grub, then plug the hdd in
[20:29] <EriC^^> and continue booting and see what happens
[20:29] <qwebirc95665> what key do i have to press to continue from grub?
[20:29] <nacc> qwebirc95665: enter key, usually
[20:29] <nacc> cristian_c: sorry, i've lost context again
[20:30] <cristian_c> nacc: about blackliat issue
[20:30] <qwebirc95665> ok i try, see you later
[20:31] <powerninja> Hello I'm having issues with vsftp and using passwords with Ubuntu 16, it stop working when I restart the services  any help would be appreciated
[20:32] <cristian_c> nacc: I'm talking about somethink unknown is blocking blackliat of module
[20:32] <cristian_c> *or ignoring it
[20:32] <JustAPerson> Anyone know of a way to center mouse on newly selected window when alt-tabbing
[20:34] <EriC^^> cristian_c: see in "lsmod" what depends on it that's loading it, also be sure to run sudo update-initramfs -u -k all    after adding the blacklist
[20:34] <cristian_c> ah, ok, I've notmtried -k all
[20:35] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: you could probably do it with xdotool and some scripting or something
[20:35] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I'll check also update-initramfs output to be sure
[20:35] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: whats your environment
[20:38] <EriC^^> JustAPerson: something that picks up on alt-tab, then uses something like wmctrl to get the pixels of the windows boundary and then use xdotool to put the mouse in the center
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: I think they're looking for a setting that moves the mouse to the window that has focus
[20:39] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: check the configuration , there verify the chroot , chroot list , enable filters etc etc
[20:39] <pragmaticenigma> *setting that enables mouse move to active window in the DE
[20:40] <powerninja> yeah I didn't make any changes I only try to add  new sftp user
[20:40] <EriC^^> pragmaticenigma: it already does, i thought they meant they want the mouse always in the center of a selected window
[20:40] <powerninja> add new user to ftponly user group
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: Maybe... my interpretition is a little different I guess
[20:41] <powerninja> sftponly user  /etc/group I mean
[20:41] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: output of /etc/vsftpd.conf
[20:41] <pragmaticenigma> EriC^^: but the left :-( we're left to forever wonder
[20:41] <powerninja> OK it's default hold on thanks
[20:41] <EriC^^> :D
[20:43] <qwebirc95665> did not work
[20:43] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: post the content of " cat /etc/vsftpd.conf "
[20:43] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: did you try pressing the button on the laptop to switch to hdmi after you plugged it in?
[20:44] <EriC^^> you know, the one that looks like a box and 2 lines next to it
[20:44] <qwebirc95665> which button?
[20:44] <EriC^^> oh nice
[20:44] <qwebirc95665> i can switch between the 2 cabels
[20:44] <EriC^^> it might work then, it's the button that looks like this |[]|
[20:46] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: it's Fn-F5 on acer
[20:46] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: try to reconfigure the service , set the default settings than integrate ssl+vsftp configuration including all trhe currect configuration for chroot , chroot list , filter , ssl cert path ( you can use self signed or letsencrypt )
[20:46] <powerninja> Hi nisankhiindia_ here's the settings https://hastebin.com/enusolenow.shell
[20:46] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: try using it while in bios, it might work, my other laptop does the same, just until windows will it start the hdmi, earlier you need to press a button
[20:46] <EriC^^> iirc
[20:47] <powerninja> it's the default
[20:47] <qwebirc95665> EriC^^ yes, it make the monitor deactivate
[20:47] <powerninja> the only thing I added was in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:47] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: it should activate hdmi too
[20:47] <qwebirc95665> @eric so going into bios press this button and connect via vga?
[20:47] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: i can see in quick an error in line number 31
[20:48] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: line number 31 should be uncommented
[20:48] <powerninja> https://hastebin.com/budayevequ.coffeescript
[20:48] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: yeah go to bios, put the cable of hdmi then press the button
[20:48] <qwebirc95665> ok i try
[20:49] <powerninja> OK but it has been working since then, until I added a new user
[20:49] <powerninja> let me try on my dev sftp server thanks
[20:49] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: wait looking around for any changes or modification that should be required
[20:50] <powerninja> OK thanks, I'm trying to use sftp-internal with ssh and password thanks
[20:51] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: compare the sections of /etc/vsftpd.conf from here i have mentioned with descriptions https://zerobin.lagout.org/?aceb155e5e3bebe7#YqxGtEPXKVLGMDudRApTRu3SdJ9Eikw6IeVNhzuB4+0=
[20:51] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: than we will proceed to next
[20:52] <powerninja> I'm using the ssh sftp-internal. per https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/64523/how-to-configure-sftp-so-it-behaves-like-ftp-chrooting-user-to-his-home-director
[20:54] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: wait
[20:54] <qwebirc95665> did not work
[20:55] <powerninja> OK, yeah I shouldn't have to make all those changes if I use sshd_config and internal-ftp, correct?
[20:55] <EriC^^> dang
[20:55] <qwebirc95665> its realy hard
[20:55] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: for that you just need to mention within /etc/vsftpd.chroot_list  # add users you allow to move over their home directory
[20:55] <qwebirc95665> i tought like mount this, bin drive is there
[20:55] <qwebirc95665> *ding
[20:56] <qwebirc95665> is there no hardwarerescan in ubuntu
[20:57] <qwebirc95665> ?
[20:57] <nacc> qwebirc95665: if you can figure out the correct scsi bus you can issue a rescan
[20:57] <qwebirc95665> how?
[20:58] <EriC^^> shouldn't it have scanned though if you plugged in back in grub or no?
[20:58] <nacc> EriC^^: oh i did't realize they succeeded in that
[20:58] <qwebirc95665> i didnt work with grub
[20:58] <nacc> in that csae, yes it does rescan (in that it scans in the first place)
[20:58] <nacc> qwebirc95665: i or it? your typos are killer :)
[20:59] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: reconfigure the package , and keep it simple , enable the SSL and go ahead
[20:59] <powerninja> OK
[20:59] <qwebirc95665> it
[20:59] <qwebirc95665> hm if i do something like hibernate will it boot windoof or ubuntu
[20:59] <qwebirc95665> hibernate in ubuntu
[21:00] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: Retrictive SFTP with Chroot  , thats what you need
[21:00] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: if you hibernate ubuntu it'll still boot windows
[21:00] <qwebirc95665> hm
[21:00] <qwebirc95665> how can i find one of there scsi buses?
[21:00] <powerninja> how about sshd_config? https://hastebin.com/budayevequ.coffeescript
[21:01] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: and how you have specified the pam file in ftp service ( vsftp )
[21:02] <powerninja> UsePAM yes
[21:02] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: do your users included in the same group
[21:04] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: in ubuntu try typing "mokutil --sb-state"
[21:04] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: lets make it simple , we have a global default configuration of vsftp , than we just need to read the commented lines in that than we need to intruct it to use chroot and chroot list ( for users )
[21:04] <powerninja> yes they are in sftponly
[21:04] <qwebirc95665> SecureBoot enabled
[21:04] <powerninja> OK
[21:04] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: ok
[21:05] <qwebirc95665> is this good??
[21:05] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: what about the uefi list entries, maybe it'll lead us to something "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:05] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: than we can create some security files , cert files ( self or letsencrypt)
[21:05] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: mix them in main config properly
[21:06] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: maybe we can disable the default windows booting path using efibootmgr, if we're very lucky
[21:06] <qwebirc95665> no output
[21:06] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: it should give a link, try one more time
[21:06] <qwebirc95665> no
[21:06] <qwebirc95665> http://termbin.com/ekrq
[21:06] <qwebirc95665> *now
[21:07] <EriC^^> aha so ubuntu is actually first in the boot order
[21:07] <EriC^^> i wonder why it's booting windows when you plug the hdd in
[21:07] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: is windows connected via usb?
[21:07] <qwebirc95665> may be its first because windoof is not there?
[21:07] <qwebirc95665> no via the other hdd
[21:07] <EriC^^> maybe it thinks it's a removable device and using a default booting, like a live usb
[21:08] <qwebirc95665> its a identical hdd
[21:08] <EriC^^> no, the hdd cant change the bios uefi entries, they're on the MB
[21:08] <EriC^^> ah
[21:08] <qwebirc95665> i even try to switch them around
[21:08] <EriC^^> that's odd
[21:08] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: you can find it easy it you have any web interface to do the same , like webmin
[21:08] <qwebirc95665> i hoped it will try to boot from the left side
[21:08] <EriC^^> maybe this list isn't really what it uses, it has some other internal one that shows in the bios screen
[21:09] <powerninja> I think I was using this setup https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/limiting-access-with-sftp-jails-on-debian-and-ubuntu/
[21:09] <powerninja> using sshd instead of vsftpd?
[21:09] <EriC^^> qwebirc95665: did you try the vga and hdmi using the Fn-F5 key stuff?
[21:09] <EriC^^> also you might need to press it multiple times
[21:09] <qwebirc95665> yes
[21:09] <EriC^^> ah
[21:10] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: wait let me check what they mentioned , but you can manage server using webmin as managment tool
[21:10] <qwebirc95665> both cabels
[21:10] <EriC^^> no other laptop / pc at all?
[21:11] <qwebirc95665> i have one, but it cant communicate with the hdd
[21:11] <EriC^^> aha
[21:11] <qwebirc95665> but i could try with the life stick
[21:11] <EriC^^> yeah give that a shot!
[21:11] <qwebirc95665> i tried to boot it that way
[21:11] <EriC^^> live usb + windows on it?
[21:11] <EriC^^> i mean windows hdd plugged
[21:12] <powerninja> I think I originally used the following instructions.. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-enable-sftp-without-shell-access-on-ubuntu-16-04
[21:13] <nisankhindia_> powerninja; looks pretty minimal configuration and well working , But i think you could find it more easy if you go with web GUI for server using webmin
[21:14] <powerninja> yeah, I think I might have mixed sshd sftp-internal setup with vsftp
[21:14] <powerninja> I probably don't need vsftpd if I'm using the sshd_config settings?
[21:17] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: yup SFTP is similar to SSH
[21:17] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: you may read this to understand https://doc.lagout.org/operating%20system%20/linux/decouvrir-et-configurer-le-protocole-sftp-avec-mysecureshell.pdf
[21:18] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: its in de but you can undertsand the configs and commands
[21:18] <powerninja> OK thanks
[21:18] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: if you know german than read the whole
[21:19] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: sorry i have given you the france version
[21:21] <qwebirc95665>  EriC^^ the other pc wont boot with this hdd in, it wont me even let acces bios with that hdd in it (the ubuntu one id not work ether, i tried this before. it seems 1 tb is to big for that pc
[21:21] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: yes i can see if you want just SFTP than you don't need any other packages coz you have ssh already
[21:22] <powerninja> OK, but I keep getting Permission denied (publickey).
[21:23] <qwebirc95665> the hdd is a WD10JPVX
[21:23] <nisankhindia_> remove previous key saved in your client
[21:23] <powerninja> sftp -o PreferredAuthentications=password -o PubkeyAuthentication=no
[21:23] <powerninja> OK let me try that thanks
[21:24] <qwebirc95665> its one of the crapy bios with an integrated browser
[21:24] <qwebirc95665> the only other device i have is an 32bit laptop
[21:25] <powerninja> still no luck :(
[21:25] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: is it a cloud server or what ??
[21:25] <powerninja> sftp is also still over TCP 22, correct?
[21:26] <powerninja> yeah it's cloud server, I can ssh to it but not sftp
[21:27] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: than dont play around this , just install webmin web GUI for server managment than from there login using your cloud server root user and go for SFTP and configure it
[21:28] <powerninja> What really bums me out was that it was working
[21:28] <nacc> nisankhindia_: please stop recommending webmin
[21:28] <nacc> !webmin
[21:28] <nisankhindia_> powerninaj: webmin GUI is useful for all type of server services from DNS , DHCP , NTP , HTTP to everything
[21:28] <nisankhindia_> webmin supports ubuntu16.04
[21:28] <nacc> nisankhindia_: it's also incredibly insecure
[21:29] <nacc> nisankhindia_: esp. for a public facing system, you're asking for them to be exploited, and it's totally unnecessary.
[21:29] <nacc> nisankhindia_: that's not what that faq is asserting
[21:30] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: than solve it .. to make it easy webmin will go with GUI way and when done remove webmin
[21:30] <powerninja> OK
[21:30] <nisankhindia_> powerninja: you are using 16.04 right ?
[21:39] <powerninja> Looks like the problem is PasswordAuthentication no
[21:40] <powerninja> If I set PasswordAuthentication yes, does that send clear text password for sftp?
[21:40] <powerninja> Or is that still being encrypted?
[21:48] <tgm4883> powerninja: with that set to no, you have to use ssh keys to login
[21:48] <tgm4883> powerninja: with that set to yes, it allows the use of a password to login
[21:48] <tgm4883> powerninja: the passwords are still encrypted
[21:48] <powerninja> cool, thanks for the helop
[21:49] <powerninja> I think I'm all good now.
[22:02] <PowderKeg> Hello. I've moved from win to ubuntu and after 4 months I want to gouge my eyes out. First thing first - my mouse does not report middle mouse button. xinput reports it as holtek mouse, button map report 9 buttons, extra buttons are working, but xev does not report nothing on middle mouse button. How can I debug that further?
[22:04] <nacc> PowderKeg: what version of ubuntu?
[22:05] <PowderKeg> 18.04
[22:05] <PowderKeg> gnome 3 I think
[22:07] <nacc> PowderKeg: lsmod | grep hid-holtek ?
[22:07] <PowderKeg> nacc: no results
[22:08] <PowderKeg> mouse is fujitsu-siemens
[22:08] <PowderKeg> but maybe it matched to some firmware lowest common denominator
[22:08] <PowderKeg> the thing is it has extra side buttons which are detected fine
[22:09] <PowderKeg> mousewheel works as well
[22:09] <PowderKeg> it just does not register mmb at all - is there some utility to capture raw signals from mouse?
[22:10] <nacc> PowderKeg: you could look at the last few comments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1581088
[22:13] <PowderKeg> Ok, I will look into that. The second biggest issue: my monitors are not working properly. Dual screen, one via HDMI, one via DVI -> VGA connector. The one via connector does not report any meaningful data on EDID, even tho windows had it right. I can't use 1920x1080 on it, only 1600 resolution. The one on HDMI does not wake up from being logged out, it starts to cycle powersaving mode and being off - I
[22:13] <PowderKeg> disabled powersaving mode on it, but not much changed
[22:13] <PowderKeg> Let me see which drivers I use
[22:14] <PowderKeg> Before driver window loads, I can also say that turning the HDMI one off and on again works
[22:15] <PowderKeg> but at the same time the order in which I enable displays matters - if I turn on HDMI before the other one, the non-hdmi goes bonkers and goes into on-off loop
[22:15] <georgemp> Hi. I'm trying to setup a Ubuntu server as an internet gateway router. My networking setup is Netgear_Wan_router---(over wireless bridge)--->TP_link router---over ethernet-->Virtualbox host machine(hosting Ubuntu VM). When connected to the TP_link router over ethernet or from other VM's on the host machine, the gatweay works fine. But, when connected to the netgear router, I can't access WAN using the ubuntu
[22:15] <georgemp> gateway. However, I can ping it and other local machines. Any ideas on why this would be? Thanks
[22:15] <PowderKeg> ok, I use nvidia 390 driver, newer ones kill everything
[22:16] <PowderKeg> gpu is 750ti
[22:17] <nacc> PowderKeg: i don't use the drivers, sorry. Maybe someone else can help.
[22:21] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: This maybe pushing a "new user" off the deep end : http://albertomilone.com/blog/?p=670 ; but good as food for thought .
[22:21] <PowderKeg> Ok, number #3 theen
[22:24] <PowderKeg> I use custom wifi drivers for my adapter: https://github.com/kaduke/Netgear-A6210 I set the dkms auto build feature, but on each kernel minor version update it goes to shit. I don't have the error message right now, but it says something along the lines "mod_unload magic kernel version mismatch"
[22:24] <PowderKeg> it reports the old kernel value there
[22:24] <PowderKeg> I have to remove it from dkms, rebuild and install
[22:24] <PowderKeg> then it works
[22:25] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: BCM43 series WIFI driver ?
[22:26] <PowderKeg> Not really sure
[22:26] <jeremy31> PowderKeg change the Make line in dkms.conf to MAKE="'make' all KVER=${kernelver}"
[22:26] <PowderKeg> I tried replacing https://github.com/kaduke/Netgear-A6210/blob/master/os/linux/Makefile.6#L731 with custom KERNEL_VER
[22:26] <PowderKeg> alright
[22:28] <PowderKeg> jeremy31: are quotes around make required?
[22:28] <jeremy31> PowderKeg yes
[22:30] <PowderKeg> jeremy31: from my last attempt I see I tried to use `${kernelver}`, the script in Makefile uses `${shell uname -r}` - should I change that to `${KVER}`?
[22:30] <PowderKeg> and if yes, do I have to reinstall dkms module?
[22:32] <PowderKeg> as a sidenote, when I upload files all download stops, it does not support 802.11AC, and probably vulnerable to CRACK
[22:32] <jeremy31> PowderKeg once you change the dkms.conf in your home directory, remove/uninstall the dkms version and then add it back again, you may have to manually delete the /usr/src/Netgear-A6210-2.5.0 folder
[22:32] <PowderKeg> I'd prefer builtin ubuntu driver, but nothing ever is perfect
[22:35] <jeremy31> PowderKeg Does your device have a kernel driver?
[22:36] <PowderKeg> jeremy31: Sorry, I don't know what that means. You mean one natively supported by linux kernel? I guess not, I did not have wifi until I built this driver manually.
[22:36] <PowderKeg> Your make command worked without errors, but I won't know if nothing broke until restarting my computer
[22:37] <PowderKeg> Thank you either way
[22:39] <jeremy31> PowderKeg actually it might be better to update the dkms.conf in /usr/src/Netgear-A6210-2.5.0 and then you don't have to do anything with dkms commands
[22:39] <PowderKeg> I keep my source there
[22:39] <PowderKeg> but still reinstalled
[22:40] <PowderKeg> just in case, I saw there's some linking to /var/...
[22:41] <sebsebseb> I would like to check this, how well is 32bit supported really in 16.04.  I belive the ISO's got dropped, but yeah 32bit repos then ?   Is it worth recommending someone with a 32bit system to upgrade to 18.04, properly worth it I mean ?
[22:41] <jeremy31> PowderKeg /var/lib/dkms/Netgear-A6210 is a placeholder, when dkms does its thing it looks at the source in /usr/src
[22:41] <sebsebseb> in 18.04 I meant above
[22:41] <PowderKeg> I guessed so, but I cloned the repo into /usr/src/netgearblah
[22:41] <nacc> sebsebseb: they have an actual 32-bit only cpu?
[22:42] <PowderKeg> well, if next time after kernel update I don't have to dance around with dkms I guess I owe you a beer
[22:42] <PowderKeg> Bashing-om: were you affected by this bug?
[22:42] <PowderKeg> I don't really know if I use gdm3 or lightdm
[22:42] <jeremy31> PowderKeg If you don't find help here, you can find me on ubuntuforums.org
[22:43] <sebsebseb> nacc: I am not sure, but I assume possibly, since the lap top is like ten years old
[22:43] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: Sorry ..lost the context as I had to reboot my system .
[22:43] <PowderKeg> Thanks. I usually try finding the answer through searching the route of stackexchange -> ubuntuforums -> here
[22:44] <sebsebseb> nacc: on the other hand many had 64bit 10 years ago I think as well support
[22:44] <PowderKeg> well, here not really, mostly random hobbyist blogs
[22:44] <nacc> sebsebseb: i would say it's not worth it (if actually 32-bit only), 16.04 supported for ~3 more years.
[22:44] <nacc> sebsebseb: if it does support 64-bit, id' recommend reinstalling
[22:44] <sebsebseb> nacc: yeah we got soeone using ubuntu at an event we did in June becaues of that :)  he came to our lug for help on Saturday
[22:44] <sebsebseb> but I am thinking is it 32bit or 64bit the install etc
[22:45] <sebsebseb> he's got 16.04 installed currently since that's what was on the sub
[22:45] <sebsebseb> usb
[22:45] <sebsebseb> nacc: he wanted to breathe life into a old lap top I guess, with a battery that no longer works for example
[22:45] <nacc> sebsebseb: iirc, you can check cpu flags for bitness, or check the mfr. specs
[22:46] <sebsebseb> nacc: yeah how can he check  the easy way?  I want to put that in a email, about that
[22:46] <PowderKeg> Bashing-om: Nvidia gpu not detecting edid of dvi -> vga connector and not waking up hdmi display
[22:46] <nacc> sebsebseb: but yes, if it's already installed and it's that old, keep it going with what it has (i'm not sure getting 'latest and greatest' software on an old machine is that relevant)
[22:46] <sebsebseb> nacc: that's what I am thinking too, there may be very little advantage upgrading, if any really
[22:46] <nacc> sebsebseb: i think 'lm' in /proc/cpuinfo flags?
[22:47] <sebsebseb> lm is the command ?
[22:47] <nacc> sebsebseb: no, grep lm /proc/cpuinfo
[22:47] <sebsebseb> I could try here then
[22:47] <sebsebseb> as well
[22:47] <nacc> sebsebseb: it will be inthe 'flags' field
[22:47] <sebsebseb> he's Linux newbie, but we started teaching him basic things including in the terminal on Saturday h eh
[22:49] <sebsebseb> nacc: that gave lots of output,  looks like random stuff, and I don't seem to see flags field
[22:49] <nacc> sebsebseb: we all have to start somewhere :)
[22:49] <nacc> sebsebseb: `grep lm /proc/cpuinfo` will only return output if that string is found
[22:49] <sebsebseb> nacc: it was nice on Saturday, someone who came in from an event I organised aimed at public  to try and get people into Linux :)
[22:49] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: No, I have no direct experience with any of those issues .
[22:49] <nacc> sebsebseb: feel free to pastebin
[22:49] <PowderKeg> How do I enable bioinic-proposed repostories? Standard apt-add?
[22:50] <PowderKeg> Bashing-om: no worries, thanks for the pointer anyway
[22:50] <nacc> PowderKeg: `sudo apt-add-repository proposed`, or use the GUI repository tool
[22:50] <nacc> PowderKeg: but you undrestand how to test -proposed?
[22:50] <nacc> PowderKeg: because you can easily break your system by just "enabling it"
[22:50] <sebsebseb> nacc: yeah looks werid on mine, I can pastebin
[22:51] <PowderKeg> not at all, just following bug report claiming they have a fix for my problems
[22:51] <sebsebseb> and mine was a 16.04 upgraded to 18.04
[22:51] <nacc> PowderKeg: in the bug report, if they ask for testing of -proposed there is either instructions or a link to them, on how to test.
[22:51] <nacc> sebsebseb: cpuinfo is provided by the kernel, not really related to your OS release software
[22:52] <PowderKeg> nacc: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-prime/+bug/1778011 - this is what article linked by Bashing-om linked me to
[22:52] <Bashing-om> sebsebseb: ' grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo ' - If you see "lm" in red, it's 64 bits. Otherwise it's 32 bits.
[22:52] <sebsebseb> nacc: https://pastebin.com/WNkfyRan
[22:52] <PowderKeg> If there is a possiblilty to just install lock those specific packages to this repo it would be great
[22:52] <nacc> PowderKeg: c#37
[22:52] <sebsebseb> mine is 64bit, but wanted to test commands so
[22:52] <nacc> PowderKeg: like i said :)
[22:53] <sebsebseb> but this out put looks odd to me
[22:53] <sebsebseb> like random stuff
[22:53] <nacc> sebsebseb: lines 2, 3, 4, etc. are 'flags ...' ?
[22:53] <PowderKeg> nacc: thanks
[22:53] <nacc> sebsebseb: and there is an ' lm ' on each said line.
[22:53] <sebsebseb> https://pastebin.com/WNkfyRan
[22:53] <nacc> sebsebseb: not sure what you're confused by. It's not random, it's showing you the flags your CPU supports.
[22:54] <sebsebseb> yes I got red lm's
[22:54] <sebsebseb> and what are the cpu flags really ?
[22:54] <nacc> sebsebseb: they are feature flags
[22:54] <nacc> sebsebseb: each one is a specific feature, 'lm' is 'long mode' (64-bit)
[22:55] <sebsebseb> specific features such as ?
[22:55] <nacc> sebsebseb: like being 64-bit.
[22:55] <nacc> sebsebseb: or having virtualization extensions
[22:55] <nacc> sebsebseb: physical hardware features
[22:55] <sebsebseb> yeah I got something for virtualbox I guess for example, if I remember correctly
[22:56] <sebsebseb> I guess he can run that, and if it shows lm in red, he has 64bit, there will b e other ways to check really too
[22:56] <PowderKeg> nacc: offtopic - every few years I tried ubuntu and got into trouble you were on this irc - how long are you here
[22:56] <PowderKeg> ?
[22:56] <sebsebseb> such as yes about ubuntu in the gui
[22:57] <sebsebseb> but ok I will give him both ways in my email ok :)
[22:57] <sebsebseb> terminal is powerful !
[22:59] <sebsebseb> nacc: altough going back to what I was asking oringally 18.04 has limited 32 bit support ? via repos? and then no 32bit iso's so ?
[23:01] <nacc> sebsebseb: i'm not sure, tbh
[23:09] <PowderKeg> nacc: Back! It threw me after login into disk check for some reason and I had to use ctrl+f2 to get to normal gui, but nothing else broke so far
[23:12] <nacc> PowderKeg: nice, that's not ... terrible :)
[23:15] <PowderKeg> $ apt policy nvidia-390
[23:15] <PowderKeg> nvidia-390:
[23:15] <PowderKeg>   Installed: (none)
[23:15] <PowderKeg>   Candidate: 390.87-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1
[23:15] <PowderKeg> sorry for multiline
[23:15] <PowderKeg> does not look right
[23:16] <sebsebseb> nacc: Bashing-om yes thanks for help, email sent
[23:16] <sebsebseb> emails even since the '    heh,
[23:18] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: Back to square1, what shows ' sudo lshe -C display ' .. purge and re-install the nvidia driver :?
[23:19] <Bashing-om> lshw**
[23:21] <PowderKeg> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SpjTDwKhpb/
[23:22] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: Humm .. that says a driver is installed . which ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[23:23] <PowderKeg> I started purging already
[23:23] <PowderKeg> sorry
[23:24] <PowderKeg> wait, wtf
[23:24] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: Maube that is a good thing :P .. ubuntu system can chhose the driver to unstall ' sudo apt update ; sido apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[23:25] <Bashing-om> install*
[23:25] <PowderKeg> after purge and install from that bug report
[23:25] <PowderKeg> the nvidia 390 driver is on lower version now
[23:25] <PowderKeg> ii  nvidia-driver-390                          390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.1                 amd64        NVIDIA driver metapackage
[23:26] <PowderKeg> but
[23:26] <PowderKeg> ii  nvidia-kernel-common-390                   390.87-0ubuntu0~gpu18.04.1              amd64        Shared files used with the kernel module
[23:26] <PowderKeg> huh
[23:26] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390
[23:26] <PowderKeg> !info nvidia-kernel-common-390
[23:26] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: version ^^ in the software repository.
[23:27] <Wafficus> hey there, question about the cp command, how do I use the -t flag to move a copied file to my home directory?
[23:27] <Wafficus> cp (file) -t $HOME?
[23:27] <PowderKeg> You pointed me to an article which pointed to bug report which told me to add -proposed repo
[23:28] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: OH yeah .. lemme look . back in a bit .
[23:29] <nacc> Wafficus: are you moving one file or many
[23:29] <Wafficus> one file
[23:29] <nacc> Wafficus: also, the `man cp` page shows clearly how to use the -t flag :)
[23:29] <nacc> Wafficus: then just do `cp $file ~/.`
[23:29] <Wafficus> I tried cp -t $home lubuntuCalamares.txt and it said its not a directory
[23:29] <nacc> Wafficus: did you type that literally "$home" ?
[23:30] <Wafficus> yeah
[23:30] <nacc> Wafficus: it's $HOME or ~ in the shell
[23:30] <Wafficus> gotcha
[23:30] <nacc> Wafficus: and, in any case, seems like the wrong approach, -t is mostly for copying multiple files
[23:30] <nacc> Wafficus: and note, it's copy, not move (as your original question phrased it)
[23:31] <Wafficus> true
[23:32] <Wafficus> um well
[23:32] <Wafficus> I tried
[23:32] <Wafficus> mv lubuntuCalamaresNotes.txt $home
[23:33] <Wafficus> I tried that and its saying its a read only file system
[23:39] <Bashing-om> PowderKeg: Version in proposed: " nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.1) " .
[23:41] <htafdwes> Whats the default username and password in Ubuntu Minimal kvm image?
[23:41] <htafdwes> Or how do i access it?
[23:43] <nacc> htafdwes: usually you'd use cloud-init and specify ssh keys, etc.
[23:44] <htafdwes> Is there a tutorial i could follow? Web search was very unhelpful
[23:46] <htafdwes> Is this one? https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-use-kvm-cloud-images-on-ubuntu-linux/
[23:47] <nacc> htafdwes: i was going to sugget using uvtool, yes
[23:48] <htafdwes> Btw, would you recommend kvm or lxc? One issue i have is frequent crashes so i'm thinking of offloading some processes into vm so if they crash it wont take down the whole server
[23:49] <nacc> htafdwes: they are very different things.
[23:49] <nacc> htafdwes: do you need full virtualization?
[23:49] <nacc> htafdwes: if you don't, use lxd, it's much easier and lightweight
[23:50] <htafdwes> Well i need resource isolation. Like i need my host to have a guaranteed core available to it and some block  of memory to avoid crashes.
[23:50] <nacc> htafdwes: you can do resource isolation with either model
[23:51] <nacc> htafdwes: that's an orthogonal thing (IMO) to what software technology you want
[23:51] <nacc> htafdwes: containers do not have their own kernel, is the biggest thing for most applications
[23:51] <nacc> htafdwes: if you are just wrapping applications, you might also want to look at docker
[23:51] <htafdwes> Can i assign how many cores lxd uses?
[23:51] <nacc> htafdwes: which arguably, is even lighter weight than lxd
[23:51] <nacc> htafdwes: https://stgraber.org/2016/03/26/lxd-2-0-resource-control-412/
[23:52] <htafdwes> Yeah i use docker, but they don't have resource isolation.
[23:52] <nacc> that's old, but it's still true in 3.0, afaik
[23:52] <nacc> htafdwes: sure they do, docker processes are just processes
[23:52] <nacc> htafdwes: you can isolate any process on any linux system, with the right tools
[23:52] <htafdwes> Okay so how can i isolate firefox? It keeps crashing my laptop.
[23:53] <htafdwes> I tried making it nice but didn't work.
[23:53] <nacc> htafdwes: how is firefox crashing your laptop?
[23:54] <htafdwes> Well often when i'm browsing  on firefox it freezes up. Can usualky still move the mouse. But can't even login in a tty, so have to forcibly shutdown.
[23:54] <nacc> htafdwes: you need to figure out why
[23:54] <nacc> htafdwes: what version of ubuntu?
[23:55] <nacc> htafdwes: fwiw, i've been using ubuntu for many years and have never once encountered that :)
[23:55] <htafdwes> 16.04 and 18.04
[23:55] <nacc> htafdwes: and resource isolating firefox may not fix whatever is actually what's crashing
[23:55] <nacc> htafdwes: as it can still crash your kernel, even if isolated, if that's what it's doing
[23:55] <htafdwes> Well so how can i keep firefox to only use 1 core?
[23:55] <b-yeezi> htafdwes, lxc config set <container> limts.cpu <cpu limit>
[23:55] <nacc> htafdwes: but you can use cgroups and make a restricted cgroup for it
[23:56] <nacc> or as b-yeezi said, you can put it in a lxd container and set its limit
[23:56] <nacc> htafdwes: however, you may not just want resource limits, but resource allocation -- not only does it get only 1 core, it only gets to use one specific core
[23:56] <nacc> htafdwes: there are some extra steps required to run GUI apps in lxd, iirc
[23:57] <nacc> htafdwes: there is #lxcontainers for support, as well
[23:57] <htafdwes> Okay, cool. So if it is a kernel crash issue then i'd need to use kvm or virtualbox?
[23:58] <b-yeezi> I agree with nacc . You can check out the blog post he linked to
[23:58] <nacc> htafdwes: that would avoid the host kernel crashing, yeah
[23:58] <nacc> htafdwes: and you might get guest kernel logs as to what is crashing, which would help fix the issue
[23:59] <b-yeezi> Since we are on lxd, how can you expose the logs to the host for monitoring? It seems more straight forward with Docker
[23:59] <nacc> htafdwes: uvtool is also mostly for spinning up lightweight, headless image
[23:59] <nacc> htafdwes: which again won't help you much with firefox