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didrocksgood morning06:28
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:48
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sameeegood-day07:06
jibelGood morning everyone07:09
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oSoMoNhi sameee, salut jibel07:19
jibelSalut oSoMoN, bien rentré?07:20
oSoMoNoui, et toi?07:20
jibelparfait, un peu de retard sur le dernier train mais c'est tout07:21
didrockssalut oSoMoN, sameee, jibel07:21
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va?07:21
didrocksça va, et toi ?07:23
oSoMoNtrès bien07:23
oSoMoNle retour au bercail fait du bien :)07:23
didrockshéhé07:25
willcookemorning all07:45
willcookechilly today07:45
oSoMoNmornin' willcooke07:47
didrockshey willcooke07:49
Laneyharrrr08:01
didrockspirate day?08:01
didrocksa week late :p08:01
Laneytakes a while for a message in a (rum) bottle to arrive08:03
didrocksheh, maybe it's one from 17xx even ;)08:04
Laneyye olde talke like ae pirate daye08:04
Laney:>08:04
didrockslooks like english with french typo can work as well :)08:04
popeywillcooke: what shall we call this sub-category on the community hub?08:27
popeyUnderneath "Desktop", so doesn't need that word in the name.08:27
popey"Team Co-Ordination"?08:27
oSoMoNsalsa.debian.org seems to be down08:40
Laneysome network problem at ubc.ca apparently08:42
Laneyjbicha / darkxst_: one of you handling the mozjs60 switch? removals on s390x at least (as it stands)08:43
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didrocksLaney: systemctl enable --user … seems to create the symlink in $HOME/09:01
didrocksLaney: I do then wonder how this work in the package, as obviously, nothing run as root and we aren't sure to have access to every user $HOME09:01
Laneydidrocks: --global (/usr/lib/systemd/user)09:03
didrocksdo you know if dh_systemd does this? (if you don't know, no worry, I'll have a look myself)09:03
Laneyyeh09:04
Laneyit got user unit support recently09:04
didrocksexcellent, thanks Laney! Last question, how did you import the user environment already? It was running a command in the Environment= key?09:05
Laneydidrocks: hmm, not sure what you mean, sorry09:07
jameshdidrocks: one of "systemctl --user {show,set,import}-environment" maybe?09:07
didrocksjamesh: yeah, but that's importing from the current environment apparently (so, from the env in your console you are running it), I want something like this, but in the .service file09:08
jameshdidrocks: if you want to set something visible in the user's environment, then set-environment should do the trick09:08
jameshsee e.g. /usr/lib/systemd/user/dbus.socket09:08
didrocksLaney: IIRC, you figured out how to get the whole env variables from a user in the service09:09
didrocksjamesh: let me have a look09:09
jameshenvironment variables already set in the session should already be set when systemd invokes your service09:09
didrocksjamesh: interstingly, that doesn't seem to be the case, I don't have DISPLAY for instance, using the default.target09:10
didrocksI have 3 XDG_ variables, some ZEIGEIST and JOURNAL env and that's it09:10
jameshdidrocks: maybe it is added to the environment after your service is started?09:11
didrockscould be, I thought Laney found a way to get that delayed/getting all env variables before, but I'm unsure now09:11
didrocksmaybe I have enough env variables to do what ubuntu-report does, let me give it a try09:12
didrocksthanks jamesh and Laney, I'll dig a little bit :)09:12
jameshdoes gnome-shell or gnome-session inject the environment variables, maybe?09:15
Laneygdm and gnome-session will both set things09:15
didrockswell, in X, it's supposively gdm & the scripts in /etc/Xsession.d/09:16
didrocks/etc/X11/Xsession.d09:16
jamesh/etc/X11/Xsession.d/95dbus_update-activation-env in particular09:17
didrocksok, so it seems systemd user session has its default.target started before the env variables are injected to it09:19
didrocksfor any unit starting later, not an issue, but if you want one getting env variables (waiting for them to be available), that's an issue09:20
didrocksat least, there is the xdg/autostart fallback09:20
jameshwithout refactoring gnome-session into systemd user units, I'm not sure if there is anything to wait on09:20
didrocksyep09:21
jameshyou could probably do something horrible with a timer unit that activates your real unit when the environment is set09:21
jameshbut that is horrible09:21
didrockswell, rather than hacks, better to just use /etc/xdg/autostart in that case :p09:22
oSoMoNjbicha, are you going to update evince in debian with https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/evince/commit/a8f43ae39dda72fcb21ec486f8eb4c40a9de017c soon? or is it worth cherry-picking that change to ubuntu?09:25
tkamppeterI have a problem with gnome-control-center. In the VPN config window the green "Apply" button is always grayed out and I cannot change my settings.10:48
tkamppeterAlso my W-Fi status is not shown any more under the icons in the top right corner and in the menu there.10:48
jibelCan someone confirm if the session starts after installation of latest Cosmic image?10:49
oSoMoNjibel, I'm downloading the iso, will test shortly10:54
oSoMoNjibel, in virtualbox, live session doesn't start (after selecting live session user at login screen), and choosing to install directly doesn't seem to manage to start a graphical session either11:05
oSoMoNtldr; it's busted11:05
darkxst_Laney, I'm in the middle of another moving week, and not real good with arch specific stuff, but can certainly look at issues11:07
jibeloSoMoN, nnot starting in vbox is known its's bug 179293211:39
ubot5bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1792932 Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143213711:39
jibeloSoMoN, can you try with qemu?11:40
jibelor vmware anything != vbox11:40
jibelCould someone have a look at bug 1794280 ?12:00
ubot5bug 1794280 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm doesn't start on a fresh installation of Cosmic Desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179428012:00
jibelmaybe Trevinho ?12:00
jibeloSoMoN, Daniel marked it as a duplicate but I am not actually sure that it is. vbox used to work fine.12:03
Trevinhook12:24
Laneysept. 25 13:50:25 pc gdm-launch-environment][753]: pam_systemd(gdm-launch-environment:session): Failed to create session: Start job for unit user-123.slice failed with 'canceled'12:29
Laneythat's probably where the bad shit starts12:29
Laney(works for me here, sadly [virt-manager/qemu])12:30
jibelLaney, fresh installation?12:30
jibelthere is this too12:30
jibelsept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-shell[721]: Failed to create backend: Could not find a primary drm kms device12:30
Laneyya I just zsynced pending12:30
jibelsept. 25 13:50:24 pc /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[653]: gnome-session-binary[659]: DEBUG(+): GsmAutostartApp: (pid:721) done (status:1)12:30
jibelsept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: DEBUG(+): GsmAutostartApp: (pid:721) done (status:1)12:30
jibelsept. 25 13:50:24 pc /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[653]: gnome-session-binary[659]: WARNING: App 'org.gnome.Shell.desktop' exited with code 112:30
jibelsept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: WARNING: App 'org.gnome.Shell.desktop' exited with code 112:30
jibelsept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop12:31
jbichaoSoMoN: there might be an evince 3.30.1 release this week so I was thinking about just waiting for that12:31
Laneyit should fall back to x if wayland fails though12:31
jibelI'll do a another installation12:32
jibelinstallation was in French, would it matter?12:32
oSoMoNjbicha, ack, I'll wait for that one then12:32
Laneynah12:32
* oSoMoN needs to free disk space to create VMs12:32
Laneyprobably the choice of driver or something12:32
Laneythe wayland to x fallback has been a bit shady in 3.3012:33
jbichaLaney: sorry, I'm not working on the gjs upgrade. btw, did you see Debian bug 909536?12:33
ubot5Debian bug 909536 in src:mozjs60 "mozjs60: FTBFS on s390x: around 80% of tests crash" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/90953612:33
Laneyjbicha: yes12:33
jibelLaney, I'm using qxl. which one did you use?12:33
Laneyjibel: qxl also12:33
Laneyback later, need to eat before meeting12:35
jibelsame problem with vga12:35
Trevinhojibel: is that 100% reproducibile on cosmic + vm (which one, sorry, I lost the context?)12:48
jibelTrevinho, it's reproducible overseveral reboots, I'm doing a new installation. It's cosmic + qemu on cosmic. but Laney already started looking.12:55
Trevinhook, let me know if i should join the party. If you have an image to share can help12:59
jibelTrevinho, it's latest image on cdimage13:03
jibelhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/13:04
oSoMoNqemu+virt-manager here, first reboot after installation and the session started correctly13:10
tsimonq2andyrock: Congratulations on Ubuntu Membership. :)13:11
tsimonq2Hm, did it just expire at one point? Nobody had any reservations but we could have just added you back. :)13:14
Trevinhojibel: I meant, a vm image where it happens 100% of times :)13:15
jibelTrevinho, ah yes sorry, I kept it13:16
jibelalthough it's too big to upload unfortunately13:16
Trevinhommh okkkay13:18
Trevinhoeven shrinking it...13:18
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andyrocktsimonq2: thanks! :)13:23
popeywillcooke: had a thought about the name of your desktop team group? :)13:26
kenvandinepopey: adding mint-x and mint-y themes adds ~90M to the snap :(13:27
kenvandinepopey: but i have an idea how to trim it down13:27
willcookepopey, "Desktop Team Weekly Updates"?13:28
willcookes/?/<null>13:28
didrocksI would remove "weekly", because maybe we want to broad the scopes and not only include those?13:29
didrocksmore a "we want to hilight those topics"13:29
didrockswdyt?13:29
willcookeinteresting, thanks didrocks - lets pick it up again after the meeting?13:31
didrockssure13:31
popeydoesnt need "Desktop" in it, as it is within the desktop category13:31
popeyso "Team Updates"?13:31
didrocks+1 ;)13:31
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-2513:31
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popeyNicely vague?13:31
andyrocko/13:31
didrockshey13:31
willcookepopey, +1, thanks13:31
jibelhi o/13:31
oSoMoNo/13:31
hebero/13:31
LaneyTrevinho: please do, I've got other stuff to do, just happened to have an iso around13:32
willcookeQuick note before we start:  Let's do the usual round-table format today since people are out etc etc.  Also the updates from the last week should be pretty quick13:32
willcookePSA: I've invited t_jaalton along to these in future since he's looking after the Xorg stack etc.13:33
willcookeI think we've got everyone we need, so let's rock on13:33
willcooke#topic andyrock13:33
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andyrock1. Sprinting in Bruselles!13:33
andyrock2. Several IBus releated issues:13:33
andyrock   2.1 Investigate if GTK_IM_MODULE can be removed in the wayland session: there13:33
andyrock       are several regressions with the im-wayland.so module, I'm talking with13:33
andyrock       upstream trying to fix them.13:33
andyrock   2.2 OSK does not show up when running apps with GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus: worked13:33
andyrock       with Carlos to find a partial fix.13:33
andyrock   2.3 Try to complete the above fix fixing directly Ibus13:33
andyrock   2.4 Ivestigating some ibus issus on libreoffice13:33
andyrock3. Working on a gnome-control-center crash: (LP: #1794276)13:33
andyrock4. Debugging a crash when chaning resolution on a 4k VM13:33
andyrock5. MP to drop first page from gnome-initial-setup.13:33
ubot5Launchpad bug 1794276 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-control-center:6:g_assertion_message:g_assertion_message_expr:cc_object_storage_create_dbus_proxy_finish:rfkill_proxy_acquired_cb:g_task_return_now" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179427613:33
andyrock6. EOW13:34
willcookethanks andyrock13:34
willcookeYou want to mention your new(?) memebership andyrock?13:34
willcooke;)13:34
andyrockI just got it \o/13:34
andyrockre-got13:34
willcookeCongrats on re-becoming an Ubuntu memeber :)13:35
TrevinhoHugs...13:35
andyrockI'll make sure I'll re-new it this time every year13:35
willcookehehe13:35
kenvandinecongrats13:35
didrocks:p13:35
popeyCongratulations!13:35
willcooke#topic dgadomski13:35
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dgadomskihey13:35
dgadomski* waiting for merge of upstream mutter fix to bug #1755490, updated unity-control-center fix13:35
dgadomski* working on bug #176239113:35
dgadomski* checked bug #179348513:35
ubot5bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175549013:35
ubot5bug 1762391 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "pam_group.so is not evaluated by gnome-terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176239113:35
ubot5bug 1793485 in imagemagick (Ubuntu Xenial) "segfault in png to gif conversion" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179348513:35
dgadomskieof13:36
willcookeTrevinho, is #1755490 anything you can look at?13:36
willcookethanks dgadomski13:37
willcooke#topic didrocks13:37
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didrocks(some items are pre and post sprint week)13:37
didrocks* Yaru:13:37
didrocks - enable future-proofing for shipping a dark theme independently13:37
didrocks - simplify the build-system, removing our python wrapper to adapt to dynamic theme name (using configure_data meson functionality)13:37
didrocks - released 18.10.4 (UIF version)13:37
didrocks - reviewed and did some bug triaging13:37
didrocks* Updates:13:37
didrocks - network-manager-applet, gnome-user-docs13:37
didrocks* Misc:13:37
didrocks - apport SRU regression investigation and fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1791324. Verified as well the SRU13:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1791324 in apport (Ubuntu Bionic) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:KeyError:/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk@598:run_argv:run_crashes:run_crash" [Medium,Fix committed]13:37
didrocks - review Marco's XUbuntuCancel for bionic ttps://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calculator/+git/gnome-calculator/+merge/35433013:37
didrocks - New installer investigation, architecture discussion with j_ibel13:37
didrocks - tracker MIR review13:37
didrocks - Various discussions at sprint (snap theme transition, initial setup + PoC for update migration, new installer + global team discussion).13:37
didrocksRemaining bionic rls bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1790609. Will tackle it next week as time permits (no hurry on that one).13:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1790609 in evince (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update evince to 3.28.3" [Medium,Triaged]13:37
didrocks.13:37
willcookethanks didrocks13:38
willcooke#topic jamesh13:38
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willcookeFrom Brussels Sprint:13:38
willcooke* Got an agreement on how to move forward with snapd document portal13:38
willcookestartup: to minimise overhead for systems without portals, we'll13:38
willcookerecord absence of portal services in a file in $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, so13:38
willcooke"snap run" can avoid connecting to the session bus on future attempts13:38
willcooketo start an application.  The snapd team has also requested more13:38
willcookespread tests covering portal use (including cases of their absence).13:38
willcooke* Pulse Audio snap policy module: I tested my backport against the13:38
willcookesnapd-glib that was stuck in the Xenial NEW queue, but ran into a13:38
willcookefailure case when snapd restarts (one I thought I'm surprised I didn't13:38
willcooketrigger in my tests on cosmic).  Isolated this into a unit test for13:38
willcookesnapd-glib, and Robert helped with the fix.  So we'll definitely need13:38
willcookea new snapd-glib as a prerequisite for both xenial and bionic13:38
willcookebackports.13:38
willcooke* Snapcraft debug symbols: I met with the Snapcraft team to get some13:38
willcookefeedback on the work I've been doing.  There seemed to be general13:38
willcookeagreement on the parts I'd got working, and Sergio promised to give13:38
willcookesome review comments.  There wasn't consensus on a need to collect13:38
willcookedebug symbols for binaries copied from deb packages, with the thought13:38
willcookethat these could be located in the main archive at the point we want13:38
willcooketo analyse a crash.13:38
willcookeThis week:13:38
willcooke* I've been working on the document portal activation changes, which I13:38
willcookewant to get pushed through this week.13:38
willcooke#topic jibel13:38
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jibelhi13:39
jibel- Updating slidedeck on the new installer following presentation last week to Foundations and server team13:39
jibel- Debugged (lack of) installation of proprietary drivers during image installation13:39
jibel- Started a Steam snap13:39
jibel- Cosmic Beta testing. Release planned this Thursday;13:39
jibel- If you want to help, I posted instructions on the forum in https://community.ubuntu.com/t/cosmic-cuttlefish-18-10-beta-testing/813213:39
jibeldone13:39
willcookethanks jibel13:39
willcooke#topic heber13:39
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heberhey13:39
heber* Finished with nvidia testing summary13:40
heber* Triaged bugs found during nvidia call for testing13:40
heber*  Started a base project to take screenshots of snaps in desktop using checkbox13:40
heberEOF13:40
willcookethanks eh13:40
willcookeheber,13:40
willcooke#topic kenvandine13:40
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kenvandinehey13:40
kenvandine* gtk-common-themes:13:40
kenvandine  - Added Mint themes which adds just over 90M to the snap size.  Currently working on stripping icons that aren't useful inside an application snap to get the size down.13:40
kenvandine* snap-store:13:40
kenvandine  - The necessary interfaces are now approved.13:40
kenvandine* gnome-contacts:13:40
kenvandine  - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved.13:40
kenvandine* gnome-calendar:13:40
kenvandine  - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved.13:40
kenvandine13:40
willcookethanks kenvandine13:41
oSoMoNkenvandine, have you seen https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/i-can-not-add-accounts-in-gnome-contacts/7511 ?13:41
kenvandineyes13:41
kenvandinei tested that this morning13:41
kenvandinei'll reply13:41
oSoMoNok13:41
willcookethx13:41
willcooke#topic Laney13:41
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Laney• sprint13:42
Laney• looking at new wallpapers (no community contest this time? also slideshow needs updating 😉)13:42
Laney• cosmic uploads to unblock things:13:42
Laney∘ fixed gvfs tests (just got merged upstream as well)13:42
Laney∘ fixed n-m tests13:42
Laney🚞13:42
willcookeLaney, slideshow is on my list.  Let's see if we can upload a wallpaper and then I'll get on with it (once I can log in again)13:43
willcookehow do you feel about uploading a JPG version?13:43
Laneyquite bad13:43
Laneybut I guess we have to13:43
Laneygot a pkg with that in13:43
willcookeyou want me to upload anything to the bug?13:44
Laneynah13:44
willcookeoki, thanks Laney13:44
willcookePoke me when it's there and I will refresh the slideshow13:44
willcookeNo significant changes (again) just new screenshots13:44
Laneyit's going to be that image13:44
LaneyI don't think you need to wait for the upload per se13:44
willcookeroger roger13:45
Laneybut ya should get it done today13:45
willcookeI will crack on13:45
willcookethanks13:45
willcooke#topic oSoMoN13:45
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oSoMoNhey13:45
oSoMoN• firefox13:45
oSoMoN  - updated branding at https://launchpad.net/firefox13:45
oSoMoN  - prepared and tested 62.0.2 update in a PPA, waiting for feedback from Chris before I upload to cosmic, and I will then proceed to prepare the updates for bionic, xenial and trusty13:45
oSoMoN  - working on building the beta branch (63) on cosmic13:45
oSoMoN• chromium13:45
oSoMoN  - updated stable to 69.0.3497.10013:45
oSoMoN  - debugged bug #1738164 with jd_strand and kyro_fa, made some progress but couldn't get to the bottom of it yet13:45
ubot5bug 1738164 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] U2F doesn't work with yubikey" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/173816413:45
oSoMoN  - discussed with stakeholders how to migrate user profile when transitioning from deb to snap, a new interface called dotfiles is in the works (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5845) and should help, need to test it and provide feedback13:45
oSoMoN  - successfully built chromium snap from source on armhf and arm6413:45
gitbotsnapcore issue (Pull request) 5845 in snapd "interface: add new dotfiles interface" [Open]13:45
oSoMoN• libreoffice13:46
oSoMoN  - verified 1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 SRU in bionic-proposed, released to bionic-updates13:46
oSoMoN  - updated LO to 6.1.1 (bug #1792894), now in cosmic13:46
ubot5bug 1792894 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Update to 6.1.1" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179289413:46
oSoMoN  - updated snap to 6.1.1, promoted to stable channel13:46
oSoMoN• other13:46
oSoMoN  - submitted https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/merge_requests/198 to fix bug #1792648, got nacked and submitted https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/evince/merge_requests/1 instead, which was merged and will make its way to the next evince update in debian (3.30.1, scheduled this week) which we will then need to sync in ubuntu13:46
ubot5bug 1792648 in evince (Ubuntu) "Can't preview document in evince - Ubuntu 18.10 Failed to execute child process (Permission Denied)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179264813:46
gitbotAppArmor issue (Merge request) 198 in apparmor "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Closed]13:46
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 1 in evince "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Merged]13:46
oSoMoN  - filed and investigated bug #179406413:46
ubot5bug 1794064 in evince (Ubuntu) "Clicking a hyperlink in a PDF fails to open it if the default browser is a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179406413:46
oSoMoN🍟🍺13:46
willcookehehe13:46
willcookethanks oSoMoN13:46
willcooke#topic tjaalton13:47
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tjaaltonyay13:47
willcookeHey tjaalton, anything you need from us, or anything to tell us this week?13:47
tjaaltonnothing out of the ordinary, unblocked x-x-v-amdgpu from proposed today, mesa FFE is almost reviewed, vulkan-* still in NEW13:48
willcooketjaalton, shout if we can try to help get things moving13:48
willcooke#topic tkamppeter13:48
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tkamppeter- ghostscript: Updated to 9.25, regression fix release of 9.24.13:49
tkamppeter- printing-stack-snap: Solved a lot of problems with the snapd team on the Sprint in Brussels:13:49
tkamppeter  + CUPS snap now checks whether port 631 is busy. If it is not busy it starts CUPS on port 631, otherwise on 10631.13:49
tkamppeter  + cups-browsed startup waits for CUPS startup having selected the port, to assure correct connection of the snap's CUPS and cups-browsed13:49
tkamppeter  + It is not recommended to run both the system's (Debian-package-based) and the snapped CUPS on production systems, but for development setups this is possible.13:49
tkamppeter  + If a system is only running the snap's CUPS, this CUPS is available through port 631 and both Debian-package-based and snapped applications can print on it.13:49
jdstrandoSoMoN: oh heh, I just commented on bug 179406413:49
ubot5bug 1794064 in evince (Ubuntu) "Clicking a hyperlink in a PDF fails to open it if the default browser is a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179406413:49
tkamppeter  + The snap still needs manual connection to Avahi and USB interfaces (on core also to home dir intrerface).13:49
tkamppeter  + Connected to Avahi interface the snapped CUPS finds and sets up IPP (driverless) printers automatically, using its cups-browsed.13:49
tkamppeter  +  Users in "adm" group can do administrative tasks using the command line utilities of the snap (they use the snap's domain socket by default), admin via localhost:631 (system's utilities) does not work.13:49
tkamppeter  + The snap uses now the up-to-date upstream versions: CUPS 2.2.8, cups-filters 1.21.2, and to fulfill the dependencies of cups-filters QPDF (8.2.1) is nowalso included.13:49
tkamppeter  + Cleaned up warnings in snap build process13:49
tkamppeter  + Updated README.md13:49
tkamppeter  + Planned Next steps:13:49
tkamppeter     o Automatic connection of all interfaces ([Request](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/request-printing-stack-snap-auto-connection-to-avahi-control-raw-usb-and-home-interfaces/))13:49
tkamppeter     o Addition of ippusbxd for auto-setup of driverless USB printers (Needs support for [systemd templates](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/feature-request-support-for-systemd-templates)).13:49
tkamppeter     o If possible/needed: Have "lpadmin" group for administrative tasks (Thread: [Multiple users and groups in snaps](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/multiple-users-and-groups-in-snaps/))13:49
tkamppeter     o Get admin via localhost:631 to work (Thread: [User authentication in snapd](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/user-authentication-in-snapd/))13:49
tkamppeter  See:13:49
tkamppeter  https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/developer-sprint-sep-17th-2018/7336/46?u=till.kamppeter13:49
tkamppeter- Google Summer of Code 2018: Continuing mentoring the students for completing their work.13:49
tkamppeter- Bugs.13:50
willcookethanks tkamppeter, great work on the snap13:50
willcooke#topic Trevinho13:51
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Trevinho· Joined the Ubuntu sprint in Brussels, did good plannings for future13:51
Trevinho· Some fixes on meson and gtk-doc integration:13:51
Trevinho  - https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/421413:51
Trevinho  - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk-doc/merge_requests/713:51
Trevinho· Wrote a g-s extension to add search provider to web search through the default browser13:51
Trevinho· Fixed a desktop helper regression13:51
Trevinho  - https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/15513:51
Trevinho· Some mutter 3.28 cherry-picks13:51
Trevinho🍟13:51
gitbotmesonbuild issue (Pull request) 4214 in meson "Gtk docs improvements" [Open]13:51
gitbotGNOME issue (Merge request) 7 in gtk-doc "gtkdoc-scangobj: support double quotes in flags and multiple flags parameters" [Opened]13:51
gitbotubuntu issue (Pull request) 155 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "desktop-exports: don't break cycle overriding variables" [Closed]13:51
oSoMoNthanks jdstrand13:51
willcookethanks Trevinho13:51
willcooke#topic robert_ancell13:51
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willcooke- Brussels sprint!13:51
willcooke- Implemented initial support for header artwork in gnome-software13:51
willcookehttps://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/header-artwork13:51
willcooke- Implemented initial support for new page in gnome-software13:51
willcookehttps://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/news-page13:51
willcooke- Implemented updated simple-scan design in13:51
willcookehttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/issues/1013:51
gitbotGNOME issue 10 in simple-scan "Indicate text/photo page/feeder in the scan button" [1. Feature, Closed]13:51
willcooke- simple-scan 3.30.1 release13:51
willcooke#topic rls-bugs13:51
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willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:52
willcookejibel, is your bug tagged for the rls yet?13:52
willcookeBugs on the list seem to all be assigned13:52
willcookeThis one could use a person assigning13:53
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/174321613:53
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1743216 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "perl crashed with SIGABRT in _dbus_abort()" [High,Confirmed]13:53
Laneythey should be nominated to accept them13:53
willcookefor xdg-utils13:53
jibelwillcooke, not yet, cannot find a way to reproduce13:53
willcookeLaney, let's check them now...13:54
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/174321613:54
andyrockregarding this http://launchpad.net/bugs/178634413:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress]13:54
andyrockis it really necessary? it's not a regression13:54
willcookeandyrock, stand by a mo, let's get this xdg-utils one sorted first13:55
andyrockkk13:55
willcookexdg-screensaver?!13:55
Laneyit does seem like a fairly common crash13:55
willcookeyeah, just looked at e.u.c13:56
willcookeOk, anyone want to take a look at that one?13:56
Laneycan do13:56
willcookethank you13:57
jibelwillcooke, bug 1792932 was on the cc-incoming bug list but has been duplicated13:57
ubot5bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1792932 Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143213713:57
jibelit's a crash on vbox.13:57
willcookeone moment. lets get through the first list13:58
willcookek, andyrock you're up13:58
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/178634413:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress]13:58
willcookeYou feel it's not a rls blocker?13:58
andyrockindeed13:58
andyrockit was a regression before13:58
andyrockbut now the behaviour is the same as before13:59
andyrockit makes sense to fix it, but not sure it should be marked as a rls bug13:59
didrocksbasically, people starting the live session can't input chinese?13:59
didrocksand we told that was ok for bionic, is that it?13:59
andyrockdidrocks: they can, they just need to select "Simpliefied Chinese" from the keyboard menu14:00
andyrockwhen they opened the bug even doing that was not enough14:00
didrocksah, so it's really "only" the default method which isn't set properly14:00
andyrockyep14:00
andyrockand we never did that14:00
willcookeAh I see14:00
andyrockso I'm ok fixing it but it should not be in that list14:01
willcookeok, then I'd say yes we should "fix" it, but not a rls bug14:01
willcookeany +1 / -1 ?14:01
andyrock+114:01
didrocksI think it's an important feature we should fix, but we have bigger fish to tackle and as long as it's fixed anyway… Don't care about blocking or not14:01
willcookedidrocks, any feelings? ^14:01
willcookeoosp14:01
willcookeLaney?14:02
andyrockbtw I'll check again14:02
didrocksandyrock: if you need help with casper to pre-setting the correct keys, I can give you some hands14:02
andyrockdidrocks: kk14:02
willcookeandyrock, oki, I think you can untag it then, but keep us posted (pending L_aney's view)14:03
willcookenext:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/179014614:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1790146 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Update Welcome page for Ubuntu 18.10" [High,In progress]14:03
Laneynotfixing would be ok I guess14:03
Laneyyes, g-i-s is rls imho14:04
Laneyone of us should review that branch14:04
willcookeagreed14:04
willcookebut updated, please can someone review the branch14:04
didrockswill do14:04
willcookeandyrock - poke people if you dont get a review14:04
willcookenice one ,thanks didrocks14:04
willcookenext: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/179264814:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1792648 in evince (Ubuntu) "Can't preview document in evince - Ubuntu 18.10 Failed to execute child process (Permission Denied)" [High,In progress]14:05
willcookeoSoMoN14:05
andyrockthk didrocks14:05
willcooke(reading)14:05
oSoMoNthat's fixed in debian and pending an updated package, which we will then sync14:05
willcookeShould it block release?14:06
oSoMoNit's a regression, it probably should14:06
oSoMoNalternatively I could cherry-pick the fix in ubuntu if we want it earlier14:06
oSoMoNbut j_bicha said there'd be a 3.30.1 evince release this week14:06
jbicha*might be*14:06
willcookewe can hold off for a little while and see what happens14:07
willcookeif no release, we have our plan B14:07
oSoMoNcherry-picking is easy enough14:07
willcookek, updated14:07
willcookejibel, you're up14:07
willcookethere is a bug missing from the lsit?14:07
willcookeist14:07
willcookelist14:07
jibelbug 1792932 happening on vbox14:08
ubot5bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1792932 Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143213714:08
jibelthe image doesn boot14:08
jibelor rather boots to a black scren14:08
jibel+e14:08
willcookejibel, sounds like a blocker to me then :)14:09
willcookejibel, should it be assigned to you for now?14:09
willcookeand is it something t_jaalton can help with?14:10
jibelwillcooke, not me, not much I can do14:10
willcookek, tjaalton - can we ask you to look at this one? ^14:10
willcookebug 143213714:11
ubot5bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/143213714:11
* willcooke assumes the answer will be yes14:12
willcooke#topic AOB14:12
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didrocks:p14:12
willcookeAnyone got anything?14:12
kenvandinenot me14:12
didrockson Yaru team and mpt opening bugs on their repo, here are some of their reactions: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/communitheme-progress/5924/914:12
didrocks(from this topic to the next one)14:13
* mpt waves14:13
didrockshey mpt ;)14:13
didrocksI suggest that for being good citizen, we should get those bugs opened against Suru14:13
didrocksthen, we can modify them if Sam doesn't agree to fix them14:13
mptI’ve opened one, I will do the rest14:13
didrocksthanks mpt!14:13
mpt(I just didn’t have time today)14:14
didrocksmpt: do you mind linking Suru to "downstream/Yaru ones"?14:14
didrocksso that we can check the individual status14:14
didrocksand see if it's a NACK upstream, we just go our way14:14
mptYep14:14
didrocksthx a lot mpt!14:14
willcookedidrocks, fwiw - I agree with your point - we can fix these in the future, and snap users will get the fixes sooner14:14
didrocksmpt: however, I doubt most of the changes will happen in cosmic IMHO (due to remainining time and UIF)14:14
didrocksexactly!14:14
didrocksonly cosmic would be "frozen in look"14:15
willcooke+114:15
didrocksthanks mpt, willcooke14:15
willcookein 9 months time it won't matter :)14:15
didrocksyep14:15
willcookejust enough time to have a baby14:15
didrocks(was just thinking the same, time flies…)14:15
didrocksthat's it for me14:16
willcookeany more for any more?14:16
willcookeGoing once14:16
willcooketwice14:16
willcooke#endmeeting14:16
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Sep 25 14:16:51 2018 UTC.14:16
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-09-25-13.31.moin.txt14:16
oSoMoNwillcooke and didrocks having babies?14:16
willcookethanks all14:16
willcookeoSoMoN, little didcooke will fix all the things14:17
kenvandine:)14:17
didrocksroh14:17
willcookeno more babies here. eva eva eva eva eva eva14:17
LaneyTrevinho: did you see my msg? looking into that bug would be appreciated14:39
TrevinhoLaney: yeah, I saw it14:48
Trevinhoit was just before the meeting, but I read it14:48
Trevinhodidn't want to bother with an ack :)14:48
Laneythx14:50
Laneydidn't want to let it go missing!14:50
tjaaltonjibel: did you try the new mesa from the ppa?15:12
jibeltjaalton, no I didn't. not easy to test because it's on boot of the live session but I'll try something tomorrow15:29
tjaaltonuse nomodeset15:32
tjaaltonon kernel cmdline15:32
tjaaltonrecovery boot does the same15:33
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willcookenight all17:36
oSoMoNgood night everyone18:26
kenvandinesarnold: any update on bug 1750069 ?18:42
ubot5bug 1750069 in xdg-desktop-portal-gtk (Ubuntu) "[MIR] xdg-desktop-portal-gtk" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175006918:42
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k_alammuktupavels: Hi, After pygobject port, ccsm doesn't show any icon......error occurs in ccsm/utils.py at line 17122:05
k_alam ret = Gtk.Button.do_draw (self, cr)22:05
k_alamcan you reproduce ?22:05

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