[06:28] <didrocks> good morning
[06:48] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:06] <sameee> good-day
[07:09] <jibel> Good morning everyone
[07:19] <oSoMoN> hi sameee, salut jibel
[07:20] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN, bien rentré?
[07:20] <oSoMoN> oui, et toi?
[07:21] <jibel> parfait, un peu de retard sur le dernier train mais c'est tout
[07:21] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN, sameee, jibel
[07:21] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, ça va?
[07:23] <didrocks> ça va, et toi ?
[07:23] <oSoMoN> très bien
[07:23] <oSoMoN> le retour au bercail fait du bien :)
[07:25] <didrocks> héhé
[07:45] <willcooke> morning all
[07:45] <willcooke> chilly today
[07:47] <oSoMoN> mornin' willcooke
[07:49] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[08:01] <Laney> harrrr
[08:01] <didrocks> pirate day?
[08:01] <didrocks> a week late :p
[08:03] <Laney> takes a while for a message in a (rum) bottle to arrive
[08:04] <didrocks> heh, maybe it's one from 17xx even ;)
[08:04] <Laney> ye olde talke like ae pirate daye
[08:04] <Laney> :>
[08:04] <didrocks> looks like english with french typo can work as well :)
[08:27] <popey> willcooke: what shall we call this sub-category on the community hub?
[08:27] <popey> Underneath "Desktop", so doesn't need that word in the name.
[08:27] <popey> "Team Co-Ordination"?
[08:40] <oSoMoN> salsa.debian.org seems to be down
[08:42] <Laney> some network problem at ubc.ca apparently
[08:43] <Laney> jbicha / darkxst_: one of you handling the mozjs60 switch? removals on s390x at least (as it stands)
[09:01] <didrocks> Laney: systemctl enable --user … seems to create the symlink in $HOME/
[09:01] <didrocks> Laney: I do then wonder how this work in the package, as obviously, nothing run as root and we aren't sure to have access to every user $HOME
[09:03] <Laney> didrocks: --global (/usr/lib/systemd/user)
[09:03] <didrocks> do you know if dh_systemd does this? (if you don't know, no worry, I'll have a look myself)
[09:04] <Laney> yeh
[09:04] <Laney> it got user unit support recently
[09:05] <didrocks> excellent, thanks Laney! Last question, how did you import the user environment already? It was running a command in the Environment= key?
[09:07] <Laney> didrocks: hmm, not sure what you mean, sorry
[09:07] <jamesh> didrocks: one of "systemctl --user {show,set,import}-environment" maybe?
[09:08] <didrocks> jamesh: yeah, but that's importing from the current environment apparently (so, from the env in your console you are running it), I want something like this, but in the .service file
[09:08] <jamesh> didrocks: if you want to set something visible in the user's environment, then set-environment should do the trick
[09:08] <jamesh> see e.g. /usr/lib/systemd/user/dbus.socket
[09:09] <didrocks> Laney: IIRC, you figured out how to get the whole env variables from a user in the service
[09:09] <didrocks> jamesh: let me have a look
[09:09] <jamesh> environment variables already set in the session should already be set when systemd invokes your service
[09:10] <didrocks> jamesh: interstingly, that doesn't seem to be the case, I don't have DISPLAY for instance, using the default.target
[09:10] <didrocks> I have 3 XDG_ variables, some ZEIGEIST and JOURNAL env and that's it
[09:11] <jamesh> didrocks: maybe it is added to the environment after your service is started?
[09:11] <didrocks> could be, I thought Laney found a way to get that delayed/getting all env variables before, but I'm unsure now
[09:12] <didrocks> maybe I have enough env variables to do what ubuntu-report does, let me give it a try
[09:12] <didrocks> thanks jamesh and Laney, I'll dig a little bit :)
[09:15] <jamesh> does gnome-shell or gnome-session inject the environment variables, maybe?
[09:15] <Laney> gdm and gnome-session will both set things
[09:16] <didrocks> well, in X, it's supposively gdm & the scripts in /etc/Xsession.d/
[09:16] <didrocks> /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[09:17] <jamesh> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/95dbus_update-activation-env in particular
[09:19] <didrocks> ok, so it seems systemd user session has its default.target started before the env variables are injected to it
[09:20] <didrocks> for any unit starting later, not an issue, but if you want one getting env variables (waiting for them to be available), that's an issue
[09:20] <didrocks> at least, there is the xdg/autostart fallback
[09:20] <jamesh> without refactoring gnome-session into systemd user units, I'm not sure if there is anything to wait on
[09:21] <didrocks> yep
[09:21] <jamesh> you could probably do something horrible with a timer unit that activates your real unit when the environment is set
[09:21] <jamesh> but that is horrible
[09:22] <didrocks> well, rather than hacks, better to just use /etc/xdg/autostart in that case :p
[09:25] <oSoMoN> jbicha, are you going to update evince in debian with https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/evince/commit/a8f43ae39dda72fcb21ec486f8eb4c40a9de017c soon? or is it worth cherry-picking that change to ubuntu?
[10:48] <tkamppeter> I have a problem with gnome-control-center. In the VPN config window the green "Apply" button is always grayed out and I cannot change my settings.
[10:48] <tkamppeter> Also my W-Fi status is not shown any more under the icons in the top right corner and in the menu there.
[10:49] <jibel> Can someone confirm if the session starts after installation of latest Cosmic image?
[10:54] <oSoMoN> jibel, I'm downloading the iso, will test shortly
[11:05] <oSoMoN> jibel, in virtualbox, live session doesn't start (after selecting live session user at login screen), and choosing to install directly doesn't seem to manage to start a graphical session either
[11:05] <oSoMoN> tldr; it's busted
[11:07] <darkxst_> Laney, I'm in the middle of another moving week, and not real good with arch specific stuff, but can certainly look at issues
[11:39] <jibel> oSoMoN, nnot starting in vbox is known its's bug 1792932
[11:40] <jibel> oSoMoN, can you try with qemu?
[11:40] <jibel> or vmware anything != vbox
[12:00] <jibel> Could someone have a look at bug 1794280 ?
[12:00] <jibel> maybe Trevinho ?
[12:03] <jibel> oSoMoN, Daniel marked it as a duplicate but I am not actually sure that it is. vbox used to work fine.
[12:24] <Trevinho> ok
[12:29] <Laney> sept. 25 13:50:25 pc gdm-launch-environment][753]: pam_systemd(gdm-launch-environment:session): Failed to create session: Start job for unit user-123.slice failed with 'canceled'
[12:29] <Laney> that's probably where the bad shit starts
[12:30] <Laney> (works for me here, sadly [virt-manager/qemu])
[12:30] <jibel> Laney, fresh installation?
[12:30] <jibel> there is this too
[12:30] <jibel> sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-shell[721]: Failed to create backend: Could not find a primary drm kms device
[12:30] <Laney> ya I just zsynced pending
[12:30] <jibel> sept. 25 13:50:24 pc /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[653]: gnome-session-binary[659]: DEBUG(+): GsmAutostartApp: (pid:721) done (status:1)
[12:30] <jibel> sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: DEBUG(+): GsmAutostartApp: (pid:721) done (status:1)
[12:30] <jibel> sept. 25 13:50:24 pc /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[653]: gnome-session-binary[659]: WARNING: App 'org.gnome.Shell.desktop' exited with code 1
[12:30] <jibel> sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: WARNING: App 'org.gnome.Shell.desktop' exited with code 1
[12:31] <jibel> sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop
[12:31] <jbicha> oSoMoN: there might be an evince 3.30.1 release this week so I was thinking about just waiting for that
[12:31] <Laney> it should fall back to x if wayland fails though
[12:32] <jibel> I'll do a another installation
[12:32] <jibel> installation was in French, would it matter?
[12:32] <oSoMoN> jbicha, ack, I'll wait for that one then
[12:32] <Laney> nah
[12:32]  * oSoMoN needs to free disk space to create VMs
[12:32] <Laney> probably the choice of driver or something
[12:33] <Laney> the wayland to x fallback has been a bit shady in 3.30
[12:33] <jbicha> Laney: sorry, I'm not working on the gjs upgrade. btw, did you see Debian bug 909536?
[12:33] <Laney> jbicha: yes
[12:33] <jibel> Laney, I'm using qxl. which one did you use?
[12:33] <Laney> jibel: qxl also
[12:35] <Laney> back later, need to eat before meeting
[12:35] <jibel> same problem with vga
[12:48] <Trevinho> jibel: is that 100% reproducibile on cosmic + vm (which one, sorry, I lost the context?)
[12:55] <jibel> Trevinho, it's reproducible overseveral reboots, I'm doing a new installation. It's cosmic + qemu on cosmic. but Laney already started looking.
[12:59] <Trevinho> ok, let me know if i should join the party. If you have an image to share can help
[13:03] <jibel> Trevinho, it's latest image on cdimage
[13:04] <jibel> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[13:10] <oSoMoN> qemu+virt-manager here, first reboot after installation and the session started correctly
[13:11] <tsimonq2> andyrock: Congratulations on Ubuntu Membership. :)
[13:14] <tsimonq2> Hm, did it just expire at one point? Nobody had any reservations but we could have just added you back. :)
[13:15] <Trevinho> jibel: I meant, a vm image where it happens 100% of times :)
[13:16] <jibel> Trevinho, ah yes sorry, I kept it
[13:16] <jibel> although it's too big to upload unfortunately
[13:18] <Trevinho> mmh okkkay
[13:18] <Trevinho> even shrinking it...
[13:23] <andyrock> tsimonq2: thanks! :)
[13:26] <popey> willcooke: had a thought about the name of your desktop team group? :)
[13:27] <kenvandine> popey: adding mint-x and mint-y themes adds ~90M to the snap :(
[13:27] <kenvandine> popey: but i have an idea how to trim it down
[13:28] <willcooke> popey, "Desktop Team Weekly Updates"?
[13:28] <willcooke> s/?/<null>
[13:29] <didrocks> I would remove "weekly", because maybe we want to broad the scopes and not only include those?
[13:29] <didrocks> more a "we want to hilight those topics"
[13:29] <didrocks> wdyt?
[13:31] <willcooke> interesting, thanks didrocks - lets pick it up again after the meeting?
[13:31] <didrocks> sure
[13:31] <popey> doesnt need "Desktop" in it, as it is within the desktop category
[13:31] <popey> so "Team Updates"?
[13:31] <didrocks> +1 ;)
[13:31] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25
[13:31] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 25 13:31:30 2018 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[13:31] <popey> Nicely vague?
[13:31] <andyrock> o/
[13:31] <didrocks> hey
[13:31] <willcooke> popey, +1, thanks
[13:31] <jibel> hi o/
[13:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[13:31] <heber> o/
[13:32] <Laney> Trevinho: please do, I've got other stuff to do, just happened to have an iso around
[13:32] <willcooke> Quick note before we start:  Let's do the usual round-table format today since people are out etc etc.  Also the updates from the last week should be pretty quick
[13:33] <willcooke> PSA: I've invited t_jaalton along to these in future since he's looking after the Xorg stack etc.
[13:33] <willcooke> I think we've got everyone we need, so let's rock on
[13:33] <willcooke> #topic andyrock
[13:33] <andyrock> 1. Sprinting in Bruselles!
[13:33] <andyrock> 2. Several IBus releated issues:
[13:33] <andyrock>    2.1 Investigate if GTK_IM_MODULE can be removed in the wayland session: there
[13:33] <andyrock>        are several regressions with the im-wayland.so module, I'm talking with
[13:33] <andyrock>        upstream trying to fix them.
[13:33] <andyrock>    2.2 OSK does not show up when running apps with GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus: worked
[13:33] <andyrock>        with Carlos to find a partial fix.
[13:33] <andyrock>    2.3 Try to complete the above fix fixing directly Ibus
[13:33] <andyrock>    2.4 Ivestigating some ibus issus on libreoffice
[13:33] <andyrock> 3. Working on a gnome-control-center crash: (LP: #1794276)
[13:33] <andyrock> 4. Debugging a crash when chaning resolution on a 4k VM
[13:33] <andyrock> 5. MP to drop first page from gnome-initial-setup.
[13:34] <andyrock> 6. EOW
[13:34] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[13:34] <willcooke> You want to mention your new(?) memebership andyrock?
[13:34] <willcooke> ;)
[13:34] <andyrock> I just got it \o/
[13:34] <andyrock> re-got
[13:35] <willcooke> Congrats on re-becoming an Ubuntu memeber :)
[13:35] <Trevinho> Hugs...
[13:35] <andyrock> I'll make sure I'll re-new it this time every year
[13:35] <willcooke> hehe
[13:35] <kenvandine> congrats
[13:35] <didrocks> :p
[13:35] <popey> Congratulations!
[13:35] <willcooke> #topic dgadomski
[13:35] <dgadomski> hey
[13:35] <dgadomski> * waiting for merge of upstream mutter fix to bug #1755490, updated unity-control-center fix
[13:35] <dgadomski> * working on bug #1762391
[13:35] <dgadomski> * checked bug #1793485
[13:36] <dgadomski> eof
[13:36] <willcooke> Trevinho, is #1755490 anything you can look at?
[13:37] <willcooke> thanks dgadomski
[13:37] <willcooke> #topic didrocks
[13:37] <didrocks> (some items are pre and post sprint week)
[13:37] <didrocks> * Yaru:
[13:37] <didrocks>  - enable future-proofing for shipping a dark theme independently
[13:37] <didrocks>  - simplify the build-system, removing our python wrapper to adapt to dynamic theme name (using configure_data meson functionality)
[13:37] <didrocks>  - released 18.10.4 (UIF version)
[13:37] <didrocks>  - reviewed and did some bug triaging
[13:37] <didrocks> * Updates:
[13:37] <didrocks>  - network-manager-applet, gnome-user-docs
[13:37] <didrocks> * Misc:
[13:37] <didrocks>  - apport SRU regression investigation and fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1791324. Verified as well the SRU
[13:37] <didrocks>  - review Marco's XUbuntuCancel for bionic ttps://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calculator/+git/gnome-calculator/+merge/354330
[13:37] <didrocks>  - New installer investigation, architecture discussion with j_ibel
[13:37] <didrocks>  - tracker MIR review
[13:37] <didrocks>  - Various discussions at sprint (snap theme transition, initial setup + PoC for update migration, new installer + global team discussion).
[13:37] <didrocks> Remaining bionic rls bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1790609. Will tackle it next week as time permits (no hurry on that one).
[13:37] <didrocks> .
[13:38] <willcooke> thanks didrocks
[13:38] <willcooke> #topic jamesh
[13:38] <willcooke> From Brussels Sprint:
[13:38] <willcooke> * Got an agreement on how to move forward with snapd document portal
[13:38] <willcooke> startup: to minimise overhead for systems without portals, we'll
[13:38] <willcooke> record absence of portal services in a file in $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, so
[13:38] <willcooke> "snap run" can avoid connecting to the session bus on future attempts
[13:38] <willcooke> to start an application.  The snapd team has also requested more
[13:38] <willcooke> spread tests covering portal use (including cases of their absence).
[13:38] <willcooke> * Pulse Audio snap policy module: I tested my backport against the
[13:38] <willcooke> snapd-glib that was stuck in the Xenial NEW queue, but ran into a
[13:38] <willcooke> failure case when snapd restarts (one I thought I'm surprised I didn't
[13:38] <willcooke> trigger in my tests on cosmic).  Isolated this into a unit test for
[13:38] <willcooke> snapd-glib, and Robert helped with the fix.  So we'll definitely need
[13:38] <willcooke> a new snapd-glib as a prerequisite for both xenial and bionic
[13:38] <willcooke> backports.
[13:38] <willcooke> * Snapcraft debug symbols: I met with the Snapcraft team to get some
[13:38] <willcooke> feedback on the work I've been doing.  There seemed to be general
[13:38] <willcooke> agreement on the parts I'd got working, and Sergio promised to give
[13:38] <willcooke> some review comments.  There wasn't consensus on a need to collect
[13:38] <willcooke> debug symbols for binaries copied from deb packages, with the thought
[13:38] <willcooke> that these could be located in the main archive at the point we want
[13:38] <willcooke> to analyse a crash.
[13:38] <willcooke> This week:
[13:38] <willcooke> * I've been working on the document portal activation changes, which I
[13:38] <willcooke> want to get pushed through this week.
[13:38] <willcooke> #topic jibel
[13:39] <jibel> hi
[13:39] <jibel> - Updating slidedeck on the new installer following presentation last week to Foundations and server team
[13:39] <jibel> - Debugged (lack of) installation of proprietary drivers during image installation
[13:39] <jibel> - Started a Steam snap
[13:39] <jibel> - Cosmic Beta testing. Release planned this Thursday;
[13:39] <jibel> - If you want to help, I posted instructions on the forum in https://community.ubuntu.com/t/cosmic-cuttlefish-18-10-beta-testing/8132
[13:39] <jibel> done
[13:39] <willcooke> thanks jibel
[13:39] <willcooke> #topic heber
[13:39] <heber> hey
[13:40] <heber> * Finished with nvidia testing summary
[13:40] <heber> * Triaged bugs found during nvidia call for testing
[13:40] <heber> *  Started a base project to take screenshots of snaps in desktop using checkbox
[13:40] <heber> EOF
[13:40] <willcooke> thanks eh
[13:40] <willcooke> heber,
[13:40] <willcooke> #topic kenvandine
[13:40] <kenvandine> hey
[13:40] <kenvandine> * gtk-common-themes:
[13:40] <kenvandine>   - Added Mint themes which adds just over 90M to the snap size.  Currently working on stripping icons that aren't useful inside an application snap to get the size down.
[13:40] <kenvandine> * snap-store:
[13:40] <kenvandine>   - The necessary interfaces are now approved.
[13:40] <kenvandine> * gnome-contacts:
[13:40] <kenvandine>   - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved.
[13:40] <kenvandine> * gnome-calendar:
[13:40] <kenvandine>   - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved.
[13:40] <kenvandine> ⚾
[13:41] <willcooke> thanks kenvandine
[13:41] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, have you seen https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/i-can-not-add-accounts-in-gnome-contacts/7511 ?
[13:41] <kenvandine> yes
[13:41] <kenvandine> i tested that this morning
[13:41] <kenvandine> i'll reply
[13:41] <oSoMoN> ok
[13:41] <willcooke> thx
[13:41] <willcooke> #topic Laney
[13:42] <Laney> • sprint
[13:42] <Laney> • looking at new wallpapers (no community contest this time? also slideshow needs updating 😉)
[13:42] <Laney> • cosmic uploads to unblock things:
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ fixed gvfs tests (just got merged upstream as well)
[13:42] <Laney> ∘ fixed n-m tests
[13:42] <Laney> 🚞
[13:43] <willcooke> Laney, slideshow is on my list.  Let's see if we can upload a wallpaper and then I'll get on with it (once I can log in again)
[13:43] <willcooke> how do you feel about uploading a JPG version?
[13:43] <Laney> quite bad
[13:43] <Laney> but I guess we have to
[13:43] <Laney> got a pkg with that in
[13:44] <willcooke> you want me to upload anything to the bug?
[13:44] <Laney> nah
[13:44] <willcooke> oki, thanks Laney
[13:44] <willcooke> Poke me when it's there and I will refresh the slideshow
[13:44] <willcooke> No significant changes (again) just new screenshots
[13:44] <Laney> it's going to be that image
[13:44] <Laney> I don't think you need to wait for the upload per se
[13:45] <willcooke> roger roger
[13:45] <Laney> but ya should get it done today
[13:45] <willcooke> I will crack on
[13:45] <willcooke> thanks
[13:45] <willcooke> #topic oSoMoN
[13:45] <oSoMoN> hey
[13:45] <oSoMoN> • firefox
[13:45] <oSoMoN>   - updated branding at https://launchpad.net/firefox
[13:45] <oSoMoN>   - prepared and tested 62.0.2 update in a PPA, waiting for feedback from Chris before I upload to cosmic, and I will then proceed to prepare the updates for bionic, xenial and trusty
[13:45] <oSoMoN>   - working on building the beta branch (63) on cosmic
[13:45] <oSoMoN> • chromium
[13:45] <oSoMoN>   - updated stable to 69.0.3497.100
[13:45] <oSoMoN>   - debugged bug #1738164 with jd_strand and kyro_fa, made some progress but couldn't get to the bottom of it yet
[13:45] <oSoMoN>   - discussed with stakeholders how to migrate user profile when transitioning from deb to snap, a new interface called dotfiles is in the works (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5845) and should help, need to test it and provide feedback
[13:45] <oSoMoN>   - successfully built chromium snap from source on armhf and arm64
[13:45] <gitbot> snapcore issue (Pull request) 5845 in snapd "interface: add new dotfiles interface" [Open]
[13:46] <oSoMoN> • libreoffice
[13:46] <oSoMoN>   - verified 1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 SRU in bionic-proposed, released to bionic-updates
[13:46] <oSoMoN>   - updated LO to 6.1.1 (bug #1792894), now in cosmic
[13:46] <oSoMoN>   - updated snap to 6.1.1, promoted to stable channel
[13:46] <oSoMoN> • other
[13:46] <oSoMoN>   - submitted https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/merge_requests/198 to fix bug #1792648, got nacked and submitted https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/evince/merge_requests/1 instead, which was merged and will make its way to the next evince update in debian (3.30.1, scheduled this week) which we will then need to sync in ubuntu
[13:46] <gitbot> AppArmor issue (Merge request) 198 in apparmor "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Closed]
[13:46] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 1 in evince "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Merged]
[13:46] <oSoMoN>   - filed and investigated bug #1794064
[13:46] <oSoMoN> 🍟🍺
[13:46] <willcooke> hehe
[13:46] <willcooke> thanks oSoMoN
[13:47] <willcooke> #topic tjaalton
[13:47] <tjaalton> yay
[13:47] <willcooke> Hey tjaalton, anything you need from us, or anything to tell us this week?
[13:48] <tjaalton> nothing out of the ordinary, unblocked x-x-v-amdgpu from proposed today, mesa FFE is almost reviewed, vulkan-* still in NEW
[13:48] <willcooke> tjaalton, shout if we can try to help get things moving
[13:48] <willcooke> #topic tkamppeter
[13:49] <tkamppeter> - ghostscript: Updated to 9.25, regression fix release of 9.24.
[13:49] <tkamppeter> - printing-stack-snap: Solved a lot of problems with the snapd team on the Sprint in Brussels:
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + CUPS snap now checks whether port 631 is busy. If it is not busy it starts CUPS on port 631, otherwise on 10631.
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + cups-browsed startup waits for CUPS startup having selected the port, to assure correct connection of the snap's CUPS and cups-browsed
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + It is not recommended to run both the system's (Debian-package-based) and the snapped CUPS on production systems, but for development setups this is possible.
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + If a system is only running the snap's CUPS, this CUPS is available through port 631 and both Debian-package-based and snapped applications can print on it.
[13:49] <jdstrand> oSoMoN: oh heh, I just commented on bug 1794064
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + The snap still needs manual connection to Avahi and USB interfaces (on core also to home dir intrerface).
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + Connected to Avahi interface the snapped CUPS finds and sets up IPP (driverless) printers automatically, using its cups-browsed.
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   +  Users in "adm" group can do administrative tasks using the command line utilities of the snap (they use the snap's domain socket by default), admin via localhost:631 (system's utilities) does not work.
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + The snap uses now the up-to-date upstream versions: CUPS 2.2.8, cups-filters 1.21.2, and to fulfill the dependencies of cups-filters QPDF (8.2.1) is nowalso included.
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + Cleaned up warnings in snap build process
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + Updated README.md
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   + Planned Next steps:
[13:49] <tkamppeter>      o Automatic connection of all interfaces ([Request](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/request-printing-stack-snap-auto-connection-to-avahi-control-raw-usb-and-home-interfaces/))
[13:49] <tkamppeter>      o Addition of ippusbxd for auto-setup of driverless USB printers (Needs support for [systemd templates](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/feature-request-support-for-systemd-templates)).
[13:49] <tkamppeter>      o If possible/needed: Have "lpadmin" group for administrative tasks (Thread: [Multiple users and groups in snaps](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/multiple-users-and-groups-in-snaps/))
[13:49] <tkamppeter>      o Get admin via localhost:631 to work (Thread: [User authentication in snapd](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/user-authentication-in-snapd/))
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   See:
[13:49] <tkamppeter>   https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/developer-sprint-sep-17th-2018/7336/46?u=till.kamppeter
[13:49] <tkamppeter> - Google Summer of Code 2018: Continuing mentoring the students for completing their work.
[13:50] <tkamppeter> - Bugs.
[13:50] <willcooke> thanks tkamppeter, great work on the snap
[13:51] <willcooke> #topic Trevinho
[13:51] <Trevinho> · Joined the Ubuntu sprint in Brussels, did good plannings for future
[13:51] <Trevinho> · Some fixes on meson and gtk-doc integration:
[13:51] <Trevinho>   - https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/4214
[13:51] <Trevinho>   - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk-doc/merge_requests/7
[13:51] <Trevinho> · Wrote a g-s extension to add search provider to web search through the default browser
[13:51] <Trevinho> · Fixed a desktop helper regression
[13:51] <Trevinho>   - https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/155
[13:51] <Trevinho> · Some mutter 3.28 cherry-picks
[13:51] <Trevinho> 🍟
[13:51] <gitbot> mesonbuild issue (Pull request) 4214 in meson "Gtk docs improvements" [Open]
[13:51] <gitbot> GNOME issue (Merge request) 7 in gtk-doc "gtkdoc-scangobj: support double quotes in flags and multiple flags parameters" [Opened]
[13:51] <gitbot> ubuntu issue (Pull request) 155 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "desktop-exports: don't break cycle overriding variables" [Closed]
[13:51] <oSoMoN> thanks jdstrand
[13:51] <willcooke> thanks Trevinho
[13:51] <willcooke> #topic robert_ancell
[13:51] <willcooke> - Brussels sprint!
[13:51] <willcooke> - Implemented initial support for header artwork in gnome-software
[13:51] <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/header-artwork
[13:51] <willcooke> - Implemented initial support for new page in gnome-software
[13:51] <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/news-page
[13:51] <willcooke> - Implemented updated simple-scan design in
[13:51] <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/issues/10
[13:51] <gitbot> GNOME issue 10 in simple-scan "Indicate text/photo page/feeder in the scan button" [1. Feature, Closed]
[13:51] <willcooke> - simple-scan 3.30.1 release
[13:51] <willcooke> #topic rls-bugs
[13:52] <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[13:52] <willcooke> jibel, is your bug tagged for the rls yet?
[13:52] <willcooke> Bugs on the list seem to all be assigned
[13:53] <willcooke> This one could use a person assigning
[13:53] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216
[13:53] <Laney> they should be nominated to accept them
[13:53] <willcooke> for xdg-utils
[13:53] <jibel> willcooke, not yet, cannot find a way to reproduce
[13:54] <willcooke> Laney, let's check them now...
[13:54] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216
[13:54] <andyrock> regarding this http://launchpad.net/bugs/1786344
[13:54] <andyrock> is it really necessary? it's not a regression
[13:55] <willcooke> andyrock, stand by a mo, let's get this xdg-utils one sorted first
[13:55] <andyrock> kk
[13:55] <willcooke> xdg-screensaver?!
[13:55] <Laney> it does seem like a fairly common crash
[13:56] <willcooke> yeah, just looked at e.u.c
[13:56] <willcooke> Ok, anyone want to take a look at that one?
[13:56] <Laney> can do
[13:57] <willcooke> thank you
[13:57] <jibel> willcooke, bug 1792932 was on the cc-incoming bug list but has been duplicated
[13:57] <jibel> it's a crash on vbox.
[13:58] <willcooke> one moment. lets get through the first list
[13:58] <willcooke> k, andyrock you're up
[13:58] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1786344
[13:58] <willcooke> You feel it's not a rls blocker?
[13:58] <andyrock> indeed
[13:58] <andyrock> it was a regression before
[13:59] <andyrock> but now the behaviour is the same as before
[13:59] <andyrock> it makes sense to fix it, but not sure it should be marked as a rls bug
[13:59] <didrocks> basically, people starting the live session can't input chinese?
[13:59] <didrocks> and we told that was ok for bionic, is that it?
[14:00] <andyrock> didrocks: they can, they just need to select "Simpliefied Chinese" from the keyboard menu
[14:00] <andyrock> when they opened the bug even doing that was not enough
[14:00] <didrocks> ah, so it's really "only" the default method which isn't set properly
[14:00] <andyrock> yep
[14:00] <andyrock> and we never did that
[14:00] <willcooke> Ah I see
[14:01] <andyrock> so I'm ok fixing it but it should not be in that list
[14:01] <willcooke> ok, then I'd say yes we should "fix" it, but not a rls bug
[14:01] <willcooke> any +1 / -1 ?
[14:01] <andyrock> +1
[14:01] <didrocks> I think it's an important feature we should fix, but we have bigger fish to tackle and as long as it's fixed anyway… Don't care about blocking or not
[14:01] <willcooke> didrocks, any feelings? ^
[14:01] <willcooke> oosp
[14:02] <willcooke> Laney?
[14:02] <andyrock> btw I'll check again
[14:02] <didrocks> andyrock: if you need help with casper to pre-setting the correct keys, I can give you some hands
[14:02] <andyrock> didrocks: kk
[14:03] <willcooke> andyrock, oki, I think you can untag it then, but keep us posted (pending L_aney's view)
[14:03] <willcooke> next:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1790146
[14:03] <Laney> notfixing would be ok I guess
[14:04] <Laney> yes, g-i-s is rls imho
[14:04] <Laney> one of us should review that branch
[14:04] <willcooke> agreed
[14:04] <willcooke> but updated, please can someone review the branch
[14:04] <didrocks> will do
[14:04] <willcooke> andyrock - poke people if you dont get a review
[14:04] <willcooke> nice one ,thanks didrocks
[14:05] <willcooke> next: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1792648
[14:05] <willcooke> oSoMoN
[14:05] <andyrock> thk didrocks
[14:05] <willcooke> (reading)
[14:05] <oSoMoN> that's fixed in debian and pending an updated package, which we will then sync
[14:06] <willcooke> Should it block release?
[14:06] <oSoMoN> it's a regression, it probably should
[14:06] <oSoMoN> alternatively I could cherry-pick the fix in ubuntu if we want it earlier
[14:06] <oSoMoN> but j_bicha said there'd be a 3.30.1 evince release this week
[14:06] <jbicha> *might be*
[14:07] <willcooke> we can hold off for a little while and see what happens
[14:07] <willcooke> if no release, we have our plan B
[14:07] <oSoMoN> cherry-picking is easy enough
[14:07] <willcooke> k, updated
[14:07] <willcooke> jibel, you're up
[14:07] <willcooke> there is a bug missing from the lsit?
[14:07] <willcooke> ist
[14:07] <willcooke> list
[14:08] <jibel> bug 1792932 happening on vbox
[14:08] <jibel> the image doesn boot
[14:08] <jibel> or rather boots to a black scren
[14:08] <jibel> +e
[14:09] <willcooke> jibel, sounds like a blocker to me then :)
[14:09] <willcooke> jibel, should it be assigned to you for now?
[14:10] <willcooke> and is it something t_jaalton can help with?
[14:10] <jibel> willcooke, not me, not much I can do
[14:10] <willcooke> k, tjaalton - can we ask you to look at this one? ^
[14:11] <willcooke> bug 1432137
[14:12]  * willcooke assumes the answer will be yes
[14:12] <willcooke> #topic AOB
[14:12] <didrocks> :p
[14:12] <willcooke> Anyone got anything?
[14:12] <kenvandine> not me
[14:12] <didrocks> on Yaru team and mpt opening bugs on their repo, here are some of their reactions: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/communitheme-progress/5924/9
[14:13] <didrocks> (from this topic to the next one)
[14:13]  * mpt waves
[14:13] <didrocks> hey mpt ;)
[14:13] <didrocks> I suggest that for being good citizen, we should get those bugs opened against Suru
[14:13] <didrocks> then, we can modify them if Sam doesn't agree to fix them
[14:13] <mpt> I’ve opened one, I will do the rest
[14:13] <didrocks> thanks mpt!
[14:14] <mpt> (I just didn’t have time today)
[14:14] <didrocks> mpt: do you mind linking Suru to "downstream/Yaru ones"?
[14:14] <didrocks> so that we can check the individual status
[14:14] <didrocks> and see if it's a NACK upstream, we just go our way
[14:14] <mpt> Yep
[14:14] <didrocks> thx a lot mpt!
[14:14] <willcooke> didrocks, fwiw - I agree with your point - we can fix these in the future, and snap users will get the fixes sooner
[14:14] <didrocks> mpt: however, I doubt most of the changes will happen in cosmic IMHO (due to remainining time and UIF)
[14:14] <didrocks> exactly!
[14:15] <didrocks> only cosmic would be "frozen in look"
[14:15] <willcooke> +1
[14:15] <didrocks> thanks mpt, willcooke
[14:15] <willcooke> in 9 months time it won't matter :)
[14:15] <didrocks> yep
[14:15] <willcooke> just enough time to have a baby
[14:15] <didrocks> (was just thinking the same, time flies…)
[14:16] <didrocks> that's it for me
[14:16] <willcooke> any more for any more?
[14:16] <willcooke> Going once
[14:16] <willcooke> twice
[14:16] <willcooke> #endmeeting
[14:16] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 14:16:51 2018 UTC.
[14:16] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-09-25-13.31.moin.txt
[14:16] <oSoMoN> willcooke and didrocks having babies?
[14:16] <willcooke> thanks all
[14:17] <willcooke> oSoMoN, little didcooke will fix all the things
[14:17] <kenvandine> :)
[14:17] <didrocks> roh
[14:17] <willcooke> no more babies here. eva eva eva eva eva eva
[14:39] <Laney> Trevinho: did you see my msg? looking into that bug would be appreciated
[14:48] <Trevinho> Laney: yeah, I saw it
[14:48] <Trevinho> it was just before the meeting, but I read it
[14:48] <Trevinho> didn't want to bother with an ack :)
[14:50] <Laney> thx
[14:50] <Laney> didn't want to let it go missing!
[15:12] <tjaalton> jibel: did you try the new mesa from the ppa?
[15:29] <jibel> tjaalton, no I didn't. not easy to test because it's on boot of the live session but I'll try something tomorrow
[15:32] <tjaalton> use nomodeset
[15:32] <tjaalton> on kernel cmdline
[15:33] <tjaalton> recovery boot does the same
[17:36] <willcooke> night all
[18:26] <oSoMoN> good night everyone
[18:42] <kenvandine> sarnold: any update on bug 1750069 ?
[22:05] <k_alam> muktupavels: Hi, After pygobject port, ccsm doesn't show any icon......error occurs in ccsm/utils.py at line 171
[22:05] <k_alam>  ret = Gtk.Button.do_draw (self, cr)
[22:05] <k_alam> can you reproduce ?