=== jamesh_ is now known as jamesh [06:28] good morning [06:48] good morning desktoppers === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski [07:06] good-day [07:09] Good morning everyone === pesari_ is now known as pesari [07:19] hi sameee, salut jibel [07:20] Salut oSoMoN, bien rentré? [07:20] oui, et toi? [07:21] parfait, un peu de retard sur le dernier train mais c'est tout [07:21] salut oSoMoN, sameee, jibel [07:21] salut didrocks, ça va? [07:23] ça va, et toi ? [07:23] très bien [07:23] le retour au bercail fait du bien :) [07:25] héhé [07:45] morning all [07:45] chilly today [07:47] mornin' willcooke [07:49] hey willcooke [08:01] harrrr [08:01] pirate day? [08:01] a week late :p [08:03] takes a while for a message in a (rum) bottle to arrive [08:04] heh, maybe it's one from 17xx even ;) [08:04] ye olde talke like ae pirate daye [08:04] :> [08:04] looks like english with french typo can work as well :) [08:27] willcooke: what shall we call this sub-category on the community hub? [08:27] Underneath "Desktop", so doesn't need that word in the name. [08:27] "Team Co-Ordination"? [08:40] salsa.debian.org seems to be down [08:42] some network problem at ubc.ca apparently [08:43] jbicha / darkxst_: one of you handling the mozjs60 switch? removals on s390x at least (as it stands) === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [09:01] Laney: systemctl enable --user … seems to create the symlink in $HOME/ [09:01] Laney: I do then wonder how this work in the package, as obviously, nothing run as root and we aren't sure to have access to every user $HOME [09:03] didrocks: --global (/usr/lib/systemd/user) [09:03] do you know if dh_systemd does this? (if you don't know, no worry, I'll have a look myself) [09:04] yeh [09:04] it got user unit support recently [09:05] excellent, thanks Laney! Last question, how did you import the user environment already? It was running a command in the Environment= key? [09:07] didrocks: hmm, not sure what you mean, sorry [09:07] didrocks: one of "systemctl --user {show,set,import}-environment" maybe? [09:08] jamesh: yeah, but that's importing from the current environment apparently (so, from the env in your console you are running it), I want something like this, but in the .service file [09:08] didrocks: if you want to set something visible in the user's environment, then set-environment should do the trick [09:08] see e.g. /usr/lib/systemd/user/dbus.socket [09:09] Laney: IIRC, you figured out how to get the whole env variables from a user in the service [09:09] jamesh: let me have a look [09:09] environment variables already set in the session should already be set when systemd invokes your service [09:10] jamesh: interstingly, that doesn't seem to be the case, I don't have DISPLAY for instance, using the default.target [09:10] I have 3 XDG_ variables, some ZEIGEIST and JOURNAL env and that's it [09:11] didrocks: maybe it is added to the environment after your service is started? [09:11] could be, I thought Laney found a way to get that delayed/getting all env variables before, but I'm unsure now [09:12] maybe I have enough env variables to do what ubuntu-report does, let me give it a try [09:12] thanks jamesh and Laney, I'll dig a little bit :) [09:15] does gnome-shell or gnome-session inject the environment variables, maybe? [09:15] gdm and gnome-session will both set things [09:16] well, in X, it's supposively gdm & the scripts in /etc/Xsession.d/ [09:16] /etc/X11/Xsession.d [09:17] /etc/X11/Xsession.d/95dbus_update-activation-env in particular [09:19] ok, so it seems systemd user session has its default.target started before the env variables are injected to it [09:20] for any unit starting later, not an issue, but if you want one getting env variables (waiting for them to be available), that's an issue [09:20] at least, there is the xdg/autostart fallback [09:20] without refactoring gnome-session into systemd user units, I'm not sure if there is anything to wait on [09:21] yep [09:21] you could probably do something horrible with a timer unit that activates your real unit when the environment is set [09:21] but that is horrible [09:22] well, rather than hacks, better to just use /etc/xdg/autostart in that case :p [09:25] jbicha, are you going to update evince in debian with https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/evince/commit/a8f43ae39dda72fcb21ec486f8eb4c40a9de017c soon? or is it worth cherry-picking that change to ubuntu? [10:48] I have a problem with gnome-control-center. In the VPN config window the green "Apply" button is always grayed out and I cannot change my settings. [10:48] Also my W-Fi status is not shown any more under the icons in the top right corner and in the menu there. [10:49] Can someone confirm if the session starts after installation of latest Cosmic image? [10:54] jibel, I'm downloading the iso, will test shortly [11:05] jibel, in virtualbox, live session doesn't start (after selecting live session user at login screen), and choosing to install directly doesn't seem to manage to start a graphical session either [11:05] tldr; it's busted [11:07] Laney, I'm in the middle of another moving week, and not real good with arch specific stuff, but can certainly look at issues [11:39] oSoMoN, nnot starting in vbox is known its's bug 1792932 [11:39] bug 1432137 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1792932 Xorg crashed due to assertion failure "!global_keys[type].created" in dixRegisterPrivateKey" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1432137 [11:40] oSoMoN, can you try with qemu? [11:40] or vmware anything != vbox [12:00] Could someone have a look at bug 1794280 ? [12:00] bug 1794280 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm doesn't start on a fresh installation of Cosmic Desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794280 [12:00] maybe Trevinho ? [12:03] oSoMoN, Daniel marked it as a duplicate but I am not actually sure that it is. vbox used to work fine. [12:24] ok [12:29] sept. 25 13:50:25 pc gdm-launch-environment][753]: pam_systemd(gdm-launch-environment:session): Failed to create session: Start job for unit user-123.slice failed with 'canceled' [12:29] that's probably where the bad shit starts [12:30] (works for me here, sadly [virt-manager/qemu]) [12:30] Laney, fresh installation? [12:30] there is this too [12:30] sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-shell[721]: Failed to create backend: Could not find a primary drm kms device [12:30] ya I just zsynced pending [12:30] sept. 25 13:50:24 pc /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[653]: gnome-session-binary[659]: DEBUG(+): GsmAutostartApp: (pid:721) done (status:1) [12:30] sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: DEBUG(+): GsmAutostartApp: (pid:721) done (status:1) [12:30] sept. 25 13:50:24 pc /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[653]: gnome-session-binary[659]: WARNING: App 'org.gnome.Shell.desktop' exited with code 1 [12:30] sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: WARNING: App 'org.gnome.Shell.desktop' exited with code 1 [12:31] sept. 25 13:50:24 pc gnome-session-binary[659]: Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop [12:31] oSoMoN: there might be an evince 3.30.1 release this week so I was thinking about just waiting for that [12:31] it should fall back to x if wayland fails though [12:32] I'll do a another installation [12:32] installation was in French, would it matter? [12:32] jbicha, ack, I'll wait for that one then [12:32] nah [12:32] * oSoMoN needs to free disk space to create VMs [12:32] probably the choice of driver or something [12:33] the wayland to x fallback has been a bit shady in 3.30 [12:33] Laney: sorry, I'm not working on the gjs upgrade. btw, did you see Debian bug 909536? [12:33] Debian bug 909536 in src:mozjs60 "mozjs60: FTBFS on s390x: around 80% of tests crash" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/909536 [12:33] jbicha: yes [12:33] Laney, I'm using qxl. which one did you use? [12:33] jibel: qxl also [12:35] back later, need to eat before meeting [12:35] same problem with vga [12:48] jibel: is that 100% reproducibile on cosmic + vm (which one, sorry, I lost the context?) [12:55] Trevinho, it's reproducible overseveral reboots, I'm doing a new installation. It's cosmic + qemu on cosmic. but Laney already started looking. [12:59] ok, let me know if i should join the party. If you have an image to share can help [13:03] Trevinho, it's latest image on cdimage [13:04] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [13:10] qemu+virt-manager here, first reboot after installation and the session started correctly [13:11] andyrock: Congratulations on Ubuntu Membership. :) [13:14] Hm, did it just expire at one point? Nobody had any reservations but we could have just added you back. :) [13:15] jibel: I meant, a vm image where it happens 100% of times :) [13:16] Trevinho, ah yes sorry, I kept it [13:16] although it's too big to upload unfortunately [13:18] mmh okkkay [13:18] even shrinking it... === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [13:23] tsimonq2: thanks! :) [13:26] willcooke: had a thought about the name of your desktop team group? :) [13:27] popey: adding mint-x and mint-y themes adds ~90M to the snap :( [13:27] popey: but i have an idea how to trim it down [13:28] popey, "Desktop Team Weekly Updates"? [13:28] s/?/ [13:29] I would remove "weekly", because maybe we want to broad the scopes and not only include those? [13:29] more a "we want to hilight those topics" [13:29] wdyt? [13:31] interesting, thanks didrocks - lets pick it up again after the meeting? [13:31] sure [13:31] doesnt need "Desktop" in it, as it is within the desktop category [13:31] so "Team Updates"? [13:31] +1 ;) [13:31] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 [13:31] Meeting started Tue Sep 25 13:31:30 2018 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [13:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: [13:31] Nicely vague? [13:31] o/ [13:31] hey [13:31] popey, +1, thanks [13:31] hi o/ [13:31] o/ [13:31] o/ [13:32] Trevinho: please do, I've got other stuff to do, just happened to have an iso around [13:32] Quick note before we start: Let's do the usual round-table format today since people are out etc etc. Also the updates from the last week should be pretty quick [13:33] PSA: I've invited t_jaalton along to these in future since he's looking after the Xorg stack etc. [13:33] I think we've got everyone we need, so let's rock on [13:33] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: andyrock [13:33] 1. Sprinting in Bruselles! [13:33] 2. Several IBus releated issues: [13:33] 2.1 Investigate if GTK_IM_MODULE can be removed in the wayland session: there [13:33] are several regressions with the im-wayland.so module, I'm talking with [13:33] upstream trying to fix them. [13:33] 2.2 OSK does not show up when running apps with GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus: worked [13:33] with Carlos to find a partial fix. [13:33] 2.3 Try to complete the above fix fixing directly Ibus [13:33] 2.4 Ivestigating some ibus issus on libreoffice [13:33] 3. Working on a gnome-control-center crash: (LP: #1794276) [13:33] 4. Debugging a crash when chaning resolution on a 4k VM [13:33] 5. MP to drop first page from gnome-initial-setup. [13:33] Launchpad bug 1794276 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/gnome-control-center:6:g_assertion_message:g_assertion_message_expr:cc_object_storage_create_dbus_proxy_finish:rfkill_proxy_acquired_cb:g_task_return_now" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794276 [13:34] 6. EOW [13:34] thanks andyrock [13:34] You want to mention your new(?) memebership andyrock? [13:34] ;) [13:34] I just got it \o/ [13:34] re-got [13:35] Congrats on re-becoming an Ubuntu memeber :) [13:35] Hugs... [13:35] I'll make sure I'll re-new it this time every year [13:35] hehe [13:35] congrats [13:35] :p [13:35] Congratulations! [13:35] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: dgadomski [13:35] hey [13:35] * waiting for merge of upstream mutter fix to bug #1755490, updated unity-control-center fix [13:35] * working on bug #1762391 [13:35] * checked bug #1793485 [13:35] bug 1755490 in unity-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Incorrect information about display shown in unity-control-center" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1755490 [13:35] bug 1762391 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "pam_group.so is not evaluated by gnome-terminal" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1762391 [13:35] bug 1793485 in imagemagick (Ubuntu Xenial) "segfault in png to gif conversion" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1793485 [13:36] eof [13:36] Trevinho, is #1755490 anything you can look at? [13:37] thanks dgadomski [13:37] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: didrocks [13:37] (some items are pre and post sprint week) [13:37] * Yaru: [13:37] - enable future-proofing for shipping a dark theme independently [13:37] - simplify the build-system, removing our python wrapper to adapt to dynamic theme name (using configure_data meson functionality) [13:37] - released 18.10.4 (UIF version) [13:37] - reviewed and did some bug triaging [13:37] * Updates: [13:37] - network-manager-applet, gnome-user-docs [13:37] * Misc: [13:37] - apport SRU regression investigation and fix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1791324. Verified as well the SRU [13:37] Ubuntu bug 1791324 in apport (Ubuntu Bionic) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:KeyError:/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk@598:run_argv:run_crashes:run_crash" [Medium,Fix committed] [13:37] - review Marco's XUbuntuCancel for bionic ttps://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calculator/+git/gnome-calculator/+merge/354330 [13:37] - New installer investigation, architecture discussion with j_ibel [13:37] - tracker MIR review [13:37] - Various discussions at sprint (snap theme transition, initial setup + PoC for update migration, new installer + global team discussion). [13:37] Remaining bionic rls bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/1790609. Will tackle it next week as time permits (no hurry on that one). [13:37] Ubuntu bug 1790609 in evince (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update evince to 3.28.3" [Medium,Triaged] [13:37] . [13:38] thanks didrocks [13:38] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: jamesh [13:38] From Brussels Sprint: [13:38] * Got an agreement on how to move forward with snapd document portal [13:38] startup: to minimise overhead for systems without portals, we'll [13:38] record absence of portal services in a file in $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR, so [13:38] "snap run" can avoid connecting to the session bus on future attempts [13:38] to start an application. The snapd team has also requested more [13:38] spread tests covering portal use (including cases of their absence). [13:38] * Pulse Audio snap policy module: I tested my backport against the [13:38] snapd-glib that was stuck in the Xenial NEW queue, but ran into a [13:38] failure case when snapd restarts (one I thought I'm surprised I didn't [13:38] trigger in my tests on cosmic). Isolated this into a unit test for [13:38] snapd-glib, and Robert helped with the fix. So we'll definitely need [13:38] a new snapd-glib as a prerequisite for both xenial and bionic [13:38] backports. [13:38] * Snapcraft debug symbols: I met with the Snapcraft team to get some [13:38] feedback on the work I've been doing. There seemed to be general [13:38] agreement on the parts I'd got working, and Sergio promised to give [13:38] some review comments. There wasn't consensus on a need to collect [13:38] debug symbols for binaries copied from deb packages, with the thought [13:38] that these could be located in the main archive at the point we want [13:38] to analyse a crash. [13:38] This week: [13:38] * I've been working on the document portal activation changes, which I [13:38] want to get pushed through this week. [13:38] #topic jibel === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: jibel [13:39] hi [13:39] - Updating slidedeck on the new installer following presentation last week to Foundations and server team [13:39] - Debugged (lack of) installation of proprietary drivers during image installation [13:39] - Started a Steam snap [13:39] - Cosmic Beta testing. Release planned this Thursday; [13:39] - If you want to help, I posted instructions on the forum in https://community.ubuntu.com/t/cosmic-cuttlefish-18-10-beta-testing/8132 [13:39] done [13:39] thanks jibel [13:39] #topic heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: heber [13:39] hey [13:40] * Finished with nvidia testing summary [13:40] * Triaged bugs found during nvidia call for testing [13:40] * Started a base project to take screenshots of snaps in desktop using checkbox [13:40] EOF [13:40] thanks eh [13:40] heber, [13:40] #topic kenvandine === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: kenvandine [13:40] hey [13:40] * gtk-common-themes: [13:40] - Added Mint themes which adds just over 90M to the snap size. Currently working on stripping icons that aren't useful inside an application snap to get the size down. [13:40] * snap-store: [13:40] - The necessary interfaces are now approved. [13:40] * gnome-contacts: [13:40] - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved. [13:40] * gnome-calendar: [13:40] - Converted to a strict snap and necessary interfaces are now approved. [13:40] ⚾ [13:41] thanks kenvandine [13:41] kenvandine, have you seen https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/i-can-not-add-accounts-in-gnome-contacts/7511 ? [13:41] yes [13:41] i tested that this morning [13:41] i'll reply [13:41] ok [13:41] thx [13:41] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: Laney [13:42] • sprint [13:42] • looking at new wallpapers (no community contest this time? also slideshow needs updating 😉) [13:42] • cosmic uploads to unblock things: [13:42] ∘ fixed gvfs tests (just got merged upstream as well) [13:42] ∘ fixed n-m tests [13:42] 🚞 [13:43] Laney, slideshow is on my list. Let's see if we can upload a wallpaper and then I'll get on with it (once I can log in again) [13:43] how do you feel about uploading a JPG version? [13:43] quite bad [13:43] but I guess we have to [13:43] got a pkg with that in [13:44] you want me to upload anything to the bug? [13:44] nah [13:44] oki, thanks Laney [13:44] Poke me when it's there and I will refresh the slideshow [13:44] No significant changes (again) just new screenshots [13:44] it's going to be that image [13:44] I don't think you need to wait for the upload per se [13:45] roger roger [13:45] but ya should get it done today [13:45] I will crack on [13:45] thanks [13:45] #topic oSoMoN === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: oSoMoN [13:45] hey [13:45] • firefox [13:45] - updated branding at https://launchpad.net/firefox [13:45] - prepared and tested 62.0.2 update in a PPA, waiting for feedback from Chris before I upload to cosmic, and I will then proceed to prepare the updates for bionic, xenial and trusty [13:45] - working on building the beta branch (63) on cosmic [13:45] • chromium [13:45] - updated stable to 69.0.3497.100 [13:45] - debugged bug #1738164 with jd_strand and kyro_fa, made some progress but couldn't get to the bottom of it yet [13:45] bug 1738164 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] U2F doesn't work with yubikey" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1738164 [13:45] - discussed with stakeholders how to migrate user profile when transitioning from deb to snap, a new interface called dotfiles is in the works (https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/5845) and should help, need to test it and provide feedback [13:45] - successfully built chromium snap from source on armhf and arm64 [13:45] snapcore issue (Pull request) 5845 in snapd "interface: add new dotfiles interface" [Open] [13:46] • libreoffice [13:46] - verified 1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 SRU in bionic-proposed, released to bionic-updates [13:46] - updated LO to 6.1.1 (bug #1792894), now in cosmic [13:46] bug 1792894 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "Update to 6.1.1" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1792894 [13:46] - updated snap to 6.1.1, promoted to stable channel [13:46] • other [13:46] - submitted https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/merge_requests/198 to fix bug #1792648, got nacked and submitted https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/evince/merge_requests/1 instead, which was merged and will make its way to the next evince update in debian (3.30.1, scheduled this week) which we will then need to sync in ubuntu [13:46] bug 1792648 in evince (Ubuntu) "Can't preview document in evince - Ubuntu 18.10 Failed to execute child process (Permission Denied)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1792648 [13:46] AppArmor issue (Merge request) 198 in apparmor "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Closed] [13:46] GNOME issue (Merge request) 1 in evince "Allow executing the gio-launch-desktop helper." [Merged] [13:46] - filed and investigated bug #1794064 [13:46] bug 1794064 in evince (Ubuntu) "Clicking a hyperlink in a PDF fails to open it if the default browser is a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794064 [13:46] 🍟🍺 [13:46] hehe [13:46] thanks oSoMoN [13:47] #topic tjaalton === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: tjaalton [13:47] yay [13:47] Hey tjaalton, anything you need from us, or anything to tell us this week? [13:48] nothing out of the ordinary, unblocked x-x-v-amdgpu from proposed today, mesa FFE is almost reviewed, vulkan-* still in NEW [13:48] tjaalton, shout if we can try to help get things moving [13:48] #topic tkamppeter === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: tkamppeter [13:49] - ghostscript: Updated to 9.25, regression fix release of 9.24. [13:49] - printing-stack-snap: Solved a lot of problems with the snapd team on the Sprint in Brussels: [13:49] + CUPS snap now checks whether port 631 is busy. If it is not busy it starts CUPS on port 631, otherwise on 10631. [13:49] + cups-browsed startup waits for CUPS startup having selected the port, to assure correct connection of the snap's CUPS and cups-browsed [13:49] + It is not recommended to run both the system's (Debian-package-based) and the snapped CUPS on production systems, but for development setups this is possible. [13:49] + If a system is only running the snap's CUPS, this CUPS is available through port 631 and both Debian-package-based and snapped applications can print on it. [13:49] oSoMoN: oh heh, I just commented on bug 1794064 [13:49] bug 1794064 in evince (Ubuntu) "Clicking a hyperlink in a PDF fails to open it if the default browser is a snap" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794064 [13:49] + The snap still needs manual connection to Avahi and USB interfaces (on core also to home dir intrerface). [13:49] + Connected to Avahi interface the snapped CUPS finds and sets up IPP (driverless) printers automatically, using its cups-browsed. [13:49] + Users in "adm" group can do administrative tasks using the command line utilities of the snap (they use the snap's domain socket by default), admin via localhost:631 (system's utilities) does not work. [13:49] + The snap uses now the up-to-date upstream versions: CUPS 2.2.8, cups-filters 1.21.2, and to fulfill the dependencies of cups-filters QPDF (8.2.1) is nowalso included. [13:49] + Cleaned up warnings in snap build process [13:49] + Updated README.md [13:49] + Planned Next steps: [13:49] o Automatic connection of all interfaces ([Request](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/request-printing-stack-snap-auto-connection-to-avahi-control-raw-usb-and-home-interfaces/)) [13:49] o Addition of ippusbxd for auto-setup of driverless USB printers (Needs support for [systemd templates](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/feature-request-support-for-systemd-templates)). [13:49] o If possible/needed: Have "lpadmin" group for administrative tasks (Thread: [Multiple users and groups in snaps](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/multiple-users-and-groups-in-snaps/)) [13:49] o Get admin via localhost:631 to work (Thread: [User authentication in snapd](https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/user-authentication-in-snapd/)) [13:49] See: [13:49] https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/developer-sprint-sep-17th-2018/7336/46?u=till.kamppeter [13:49] - Google Summer of Code 2018: Continuing mentoring the students for completing their work. [13:50] - Bugs. [13:50] thanks tkamppeter, great work on the snap [13:51] #topic Trevinho === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: Trevinho [13:51] · Joined the Ubuntu sprint in Brussels, did good plannings for future [13:51] · Some fixes on meson and gtk-doc integration: [13:51] - https://github.com/mesonbuild/meson/pull/4214 [13:51] - https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk-doc/merge_requests/7 [13:51] · Wrote a g-s extension to add search provider to web search through the default browser [13:51] · Fixed a desktop helper regression [13:51] - https://github.com/ubuntu/snapcraft-desktop-helpers/pull/155 [13:51] · Some mutter 3.28 cherry-picks [13:51] 🍟 [13:51] mesonbuild issue (Pull request) 4214 in meson "Gtk docs improvements" [Open] [13:51] GNOME issue (Merge request) 7 in gtk-doc "gtkdoc-scangobj: support double quotes in flags and multiple flags parameters" [Opened] [13:51] ubuntu issue (Pull request) 155 in snapcraft-desktop-helpers "desktop-exports: don't break cycle overriding variables" [Closed] [13:51] thanks jdstrand [13:51] thanks Trevinho [13:51] #topic robert_ancell === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: robert_ancell [13:51] - Brussels sprint! [13:51] - Implemented initial support for header artwork in gnome-software [13:51] https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/header-artwork [13:51] - Implemented initial support for new page in gnome-software [13:51] https://gitlab.gnome.org/robert.ancell/gnome-software/tree/news-page [13:51] - Implemented updated simple-scan design in [13:51] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/simple-scan/issues/10 [13:51] GNOME issue 10 in simple-scan "Indicate text/photo page/feeder in the scan button" [1. Feature, Closed] [13:51] - simple-scan 3.30.1 release [13:51] #topic rls-bugs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/3VYBPFaR/ubuntu-desktop-1810-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2018-09-25 | Current topic: rls-bugs [13:52] http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html [13:52] jibel, is your bug tagged for the rls yet? [13:52] Bugs on the list seem to all be assigned [13:53] This one could use a person assigning [13:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216 [13:53] Ubuntu bug 1743216 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "perl crashed with SIGABRT in _dbus_abort()" [High,Confirmed] [13:53] they should be nominated to accept them [13:53] for xdg-utils [13:53] willcooke, not yet, cannot find a way to reproduce [13:54] Laney, let's check them now... [13:54] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/perl/+bug/1743216 [13:54] regarding this http://launchpad.net/bugs/1786344 [13:54] Ubuntu bug 1786344 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "Default IBus input method ignored in live session" [High,In progress] [13:54] is it really necessary? it's not a regression [13:55] andyrock, stand by a mo, let's get this xdg-utils one sorted first [13:55] kk [13:55] xdg-screensaver?! [13:55] it does seem like a fairly common crash [13:56] yeah, just looked at e.u.c [13:56] Ok, anyone want to take a look at that one? [13:56] can do [13:57] thank you [13:57] willcooke, bug 1792932 was on the cc-incoming bug list but has been duplicated [13:57]