[12:57] <cyphermox> doko: didrocks: jdstrand: cpaelzer: MIR team ping?
[12:58] <cpaelzer> yeah I'm here
[12:58]  * jdstrand is here
[12:59] <jamespage> o/
[12:59] <cyphermox> jamespage: hey
[12:59] <didrocks> hey!
[12:59] <cyphermox> do you have a meeting at this time?
[12:59] <jamespage> yep this one :)
[12:59] <didrocks> that's what was in my calendar
[13:00] <cpaelzer> only this one as agreed last week
[13:00] <cyphermox> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[13:00] <cyphermox> anybody absolutely wants to chair?
[13:00] <didrocks> seems you started :)
[13:01] <didrocks> I'm fine with not chairing :p
[13:01] <cyphermox> ack
[13:01] <cyphermox> well, let's carry on
[13:01] <cyphermox> #topic New MIRs
[13:01] <doko> hi
[13:01] <cyphermox> I'm playing it by ear, bear with me
[13:01] <cpaelzer> new since X?
[13:02] <cyphermox> new since the last I noticed
[13:02] <cyphermox> sorting the bugs by bug number?
[13:02] <didrocks> fine with me
[13:02] <cyphermox> there's pmdk
[13:02] <cpaelzer> I updated pmdk
[13:02] <cyphermox> LP: #1790856
[13:02] <cyphermox> ok
[13:02] <cpaelzer> this is now on the security team
[13:03] <cyphermox> cpaelzer: wasn't it server team?
[13:03] <cpaelzer> it is ours
[13:03] <cyphermox> ok
[13:03] <cpaelzer> but all former concerns were eliminated
[13:03] <cyphermox> alright
[13:03] <cpaelzer> next step, security
[13:03] <cyphermox> kk
[13:03] <jdstrand> it is in our prioritized list
[13:03] <cyphermox> LP: #1786489  rygel
[13:03] <didrocks> the whole dlna stack was assigned to me last week
[13:03] <cyphermox> this is desktop, I thought it had been reviewed before
[13:04] <cpaelzer> Important to know this also drags in gupnp-dlna (MIR bug #1785649) and gupnp-av (MIR bug #1785629)
[13:04] <didrocks> material for 19.04 at this stage
[13:04] <didrocks> yep, those 3 ;)
[13:04] <cyphermox> yup
[13:04] <cyphermox> oh, actually
[13:04] <cyphermox> well, didrocks, best of luck with all that ;)
[13:04] <cyphermox> cpaelzer: we shouldn't review MIRs we filed ourselves...
[13:04] <didrocks> cyphermox: thanks, I'll need it :p TBH, I don't plan having a look before 3 weeks, once we are near release
[13:05] <cyphermox> you're marked as the reporter for the pmdk bug
[13:05] <cpaelzer> cpaelzer: that is why I had doko make the update after I summarized the state
[13:05] <didrocks> unsure how we can mark those so that they don't came back in our meeting until $DELAY
[13:05] <cpaelzer> cyphermox: ^^
[13:05] <cyphermox> cpaelzer: ack.
[13:05] <cyphermox> didrocks: we can think of something in a bit ;)
[13:05] <didrocks> yep ;)
[13:05] <cyphermox> ok, next
[13:06] <cyphermox> LP: #1786201 MIR for intel-ipsec-mb
[13:06] <cyphermox> I can take that?
[13:06] <cyphermox> oh, it's already assigned to security
[13:06] <cyphermox> this isn't working as well as I thought it would
[13:06] <cpaelzer> on that I acted only as the reporter, and I asked jdstrand to lower the prio
[13:07] <jdstrand> it is currently in the list as possible to defer to 19.04
[13:07] <jdstrand> it is high for 19.04
[13:07] <cyphermox> can we say, make sure we put things in Confirmed if they're assigned / otherwise reviewed
[13:07] <jdstrand> it will likely be deferred
[13:07] <cyphermox> and then always just look at News for this meeting?
[13:07] <cpaelzer> ack
[13:08] <cyphermox> jdstrand: would that work for the security team too?
[13:08] <cpaelzer> if they are on security we would mark them confirmed and assigned to security then?
[13:08] <didrocks> or we filter on NEW without assignee?
[13:08] <didrocks> don't have strong opinions
[13:08] <cyphermox> *shrugs*
[13:08] <jdstrand> we don't filter on NEW vs !NEW
[13:08] <cpaelzer> did "confirmed" so far carry a special meaning for you all?
[13:08] <jdstrand> so that's fine with me
[13:08] <cyphermox> not really
[13:09] <cyphermox> neither did Triaged
[13:09] <cyphermox> no assignments I have this:
[13:09] <cyphermox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mir/+subscribedbugs?field.searchtext=&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.structural_subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.ha
[13:09] <cyphermox> s_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&orderby=-id&start=0
[13:10] <cyphermox> ten bugs, but all slightly older
[13:10] <cyphermox> actually, not even ten
[13:10] <cyphermox> the percona-* one is one big chunk
[13:10] <cpaelzer> cyphermox: also given your list so far you don't see "incomplete", e.g. you might miss ledmon LP: #1794219 which I invalidated today
[13:11] <cpaelzer> that is, until the reporter provides the required info
[13:11] <cyphermox> cpaelzer: well incomplete would mean it's thrown back to the reporter to fix something?
[13:11] <cyphermox> so do we need to reassign?
[13:11] <cpaelzer> no it exactly is "thrown back to the reporter to fix something"
[13:11] <cpaelzer> which is why I had chosen "no assignee + incomplete"
[13:12] <cyphermox> yeah
[13:12] <cpaelzer> just saying "such updates" will be missing in your list
[13:12] <cpaelzer> if we check that weekly
[13:12] <cyphermox> my question is, do we need to go through those right now?
[13:12] <cyphermox> if we're just assigning new bugs
[13:12] <cpaelzer> I think Team members can mention those if there was anything special but otherwise we can skip them
[13:12] <cpaelzer> opinions?
[13:12] <cyphermox> we can go through those right after?
[13:12] <didrocks> cyphermox: +1
[13:13] <cyphermox> first new assigns, then go through incompletes see if there's something we missed?
[13:13] <doko> sounds good
[13:13] <cyphermox> I'm happy to take percona-*
[13:13] <didrocks> and then, if people wants to ask questions on in progress MIRs or are blocked on anything, we can tackle them
[13:13] <cyphermox> yep
[13:13] <cyphermox> ok, LP: ##1742711 MIR: vulkan(-loader)
[13:14] <cyphermox> oops
[13:14] <cyphermox> LP: #1742711 MIR: vulkan(-loader)
[13:14] <cyphermox> who wants?
[13:14] <cyphermox> looks desktopy
[13:14] <didrocks> yep, can add
[13:15] <cyphermox> I don't think the desktop team has signed up for that at all yet
[13:15] <cpaelzer> FYI: the old "All open unclaimed MIR bugs" on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MIRTeam was broken anyway, I replaced it with cyphermox new link above
[13:15] <cyphermox> LP: #1605337 [MIR] virtualbox
[13:15] <cyphermox> my filter is not perfect
[13:15] <cyphermox> carrying on ;)
[13:16] <cyphermox> LP: #1274247 [MIR] Glusterfs
[13:16] <cpaelzer> it is much better than the old broken link leading to a LP-oops
[13:16] <cyphermox> I'm not sure why all the other tasks are on that bug for glusterfs
[13:16] <cpaelzer> I think I do
[13:17] <cyphermox> ok, it was NAKed, and nobody signed up
[13:17] <cyphermox> (to maintain)
[13:17] <cpaelzer> yep
[13:17] <cyphermox> looks like this is probably just a triage to do
[13:17] <cpaelzer> the tasks are packages that would drop Delta
[13:17] <cyphermox> cpaelzer: you want to do the triage?
[13:17] <cpaelzer> I will, but that essentially is setting all to Won't Fix
[13:17] <cyphermox> yup
[13:18] <cyphermox> next; LP: #1108935 [MIR] websockify, spice-html5
[13:18] <didrocks> security review a year ago, no answer since then
[13:18] <didrocks> I would set it as incomplete, thoughts?
[13:19] <cyphermox> agreed
[13:19] <didrocks> (done)
[13:19] <cyphermox> otoh it was an ACK
[13:19] <didrocks> yeah, but with some changes
[13:19] <cpaelzer> well it was opened and driven by chuck
[13:19] <cyphermox> jamespage: is that something you guys want to have a look at?
[13:19] <cpaelzer> jamespage: do you have any insight what became of this?
[13:19] <cpaelzer> it did not end up on our side of the team split afaik
[13:20]  * jamespage looks again
[13:20] <jamespage> no its an ubuntu-openstack team thing
[13:20] <cpaelzer> Quote "Rationale: Dependency for nova console access"
[13:20] <cyphermox> if it's still required, what next steps are, how to schedule the engineering time to do the changes
[13:20] <jamespage> I see some work in websockify based on the security team review
[13:21] <cyphermox> let's reassign to the openstack team, with a note?
[13:21] <jamespage> yes - done
[13:21] <cyphermox> ah, cool, thanks!
[13:22] <jamespage> np
[13:23] <cyphermox> and finally, LP: #821883 [MIR] argyll
[13:23] <cyphermox> looks like another one with changes requested
[13:23] <cyphermox> didrocks: doko: you both commented on previously, do you recall what the state is?
[13:24] <didrocks> cyphermox: not really, I commented on it in 2011 ;)
[13:24] <didrocks> sounds like doko requested 2 changes, one is done
[13:24] <cyphermox> afaik the exotic build system isn't great, but we don't  require MIRs for build-deps anymore
[13:24] <doko> three years ...
[13:25] <didrocks> 3 < 7 ;)
[13:25] <cyphermox> I'll reassign to Till and ask if this is still required
[13:25] <didrocks> yep
[13:25] <doko> yeah, better before looking again
[13:26] <cpaelzer> FYI the linked blueprint is tagged as done
[13:26] <cpaelzer> maybe there was a different way to get this done after all
[13:26] <didrocks> we have ICC color profile support for a while in ubuntu
[13:26] <didrocks> which is why I wonder why Till still reverted it to NEW
[13:27] <cyphermox> *shrugs*
[13:27] <cyphermox> looks like I skipped over one
[13:27] <cyphermox> LP: #1770146 [MIR] libayatana-appindicator
[13:27] <didrocks> seriously?
[13:27]  * didrocks looks
[13:28] <cyphermox> ah, doko commented
[13:28] <didrocks> nack for desktop team to maintain it anyway: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libayatana-appindicator/+bug/1770146/comments/11
[13:28] <cyphermox> ah I see
[13:29] <cyphermox> it would replace appindicator, and it looks like maybe there are changes to some revdeps
[13:30] <didrocks> and we are not interested in appindicator anymore as based on GNOME which doesn't support this
[13:30] <cpaelzer> still "incomplete - unless an owning team is found" right?
[13:30] <didrocks> right
[13:30] <cyphermox> yeah, I'm updating
[13:32] <cyphermox> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[13:33] <cyphermox> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir&field.structural_subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1
[13:33] <cyphermox> &field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search
[13:33] <cyphermox> another URL of doom
[13:34] <cyphermox> any questions on open MIR bugs, or stuff that need to be shared?
[13:34] <cpaelzer> maybe the last list should be ordered by last updated
[13:35] <cpaelzer> On "imcomplete bugs" - as I said I marked LP: #1794219 incomplete today waiting for the reporter - being the least experienced here let me know if this was wrong
[13:36] <cyphermox> no, looks good
[13:36] <cyphermox> afaik foundations would own it (that's what I recall from discussions last week), but I'll ask to confirm that
[13:37] <doko> cyphermox: could you move these URLs into the MIRTeam wiki?
[13:37] <cyphermox> also, to keep the list short, we should try to see if there are bugs there that can be set Won't Fix for real
[13:37] <cyphermox> doko: yup
[13:37] <cyphermox> tbh it's filters I set up just now from the LP forms
[13:38] <cyphermox> maybe I'll try to get something to generate such a report
[13:38] <cpaelzer> still useful in the wiki to use the same every week
[13:38] <cyphermox> yup
[13:39] <cyphermox> does anybody feel the need to go over each of the incompletes? I don't really ;)
[13:39] <didrocks> not really (and in parallel weekly desktop meeting right now)
[13:39] <cpaelzer> +1 on filtering the incomplete list, best done by whoever was involved back then
[13:39] <didrocks> yep
[13:39] <cpaelzer> I will kill a few server items there
[13:39] <cyphermox> ack
[13:39] <cyphermox> cool, moving on...
[13:39] <cyphermox> #topic Any other business?
[13:40] <cyphermox> anything else MIR Team related that isn't the open MIRs?
[13:41] <cyphermox> oh, fwiw I'll record the commands and write a short script for running the meetings ;)
[13:41] <cyphermox> so it's more copy-paste next time
[13:41] <didrocks> \o/
[13:41] <cpaelzer> yay
[13:41] <cyphermox> #action cyphermox to add bug list URLs to wiki
[13:41] <meetingology> ACTION: cyphermox to add bug list URLs to wiki
[13:42] <cyphermox> cool, then let's call this one done
[13:42] <cyphermox> jamespage: you were hanging out here, anything you wanted to ask about, concerns, etc?
[13:42] <jamespage> not today
[13:43] <cyphermox> alright
[13:43] <cyphermox> thanks all!
[13:43] <cyphermox> #endmeeting
[13:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 25 13:43:07 2018 UTC.
[13:43] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2018/ubuntu-meeting.2018-09-25-13.00.moin.txt
[13:43] <cyphermox> oh
[13:43] <cyphermox> didrocks: do you know how to add things to the fridge calendar so we don't eventually end up in some conflict in here?
[13:43] <cpaelzer> thank you very much cyphermox!
[13:44] <didrocks> cyphermox: I think I've requested that years ago, it was like "ping dholbach", maybe we just try with popey…
[13:44] <jamespage> ta
[13:44] <popey> :)
[13:45] <didrocks> #victim-found :)
[13:48] <cyphermox> excellent
[13:48] <cyphermox> cpaelzer: didrocks: doko: jdstrand: fyi, http://people.ubuntu.com/~cyphermox/meetings/ubuntu-mir.html
[13:49] <didrocks> great!
[13:51] <doko> ta
[13:52] <jdstrand> cyphermox: thanks!
[13:55] <cyphermox> wiki page updated.