[00:07] <Wafficus> sbpc@sbpc:~/Desktop$ tar -xzvf qt-everywhere-src-5.11.2.tar.xz
[00:07] <Wafficus> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[00:07] <Wafficus> tar: Child returned status 1
[00:07] <Wafficus> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[00:07] <Wafficus> that's the error i'm getting now, though the guide says to do this
[00:07] <Wafficus> http://zetcode.com/gui/qt5/introduction/
[00:09] <Wafficus> trying to just open this up in nautilus at this point since the command line route isn't working, just wanna unzip the damn thing
[00:11] <lyorian> is there a reason qt5-style-plugin-plastique is in not on the seed for the beta is was on and seems to have fallen off with no discussion?
[00:20] <wxl> lyorian: i don't know why it disappeared if it did. what i do know is one day i popped up the daily to find it using windows and no one liked it. so we all put our heads together and came up with something different.. though it hasn't gone into the dailies yet
[00:20] <wxl> Wafficus: maybe try the videos instead? :/
[00:21] <Wafficus> got it unzipped
[00:22] <Wafficus> yeah I'll try that
[00:29] <Wafficus> I'm trying their official installation method
[00:29] <Wafficus> working so far tbh
 @wxl [<wxl> lyorian: i don't know why it disappeared if it did. what i do know is one …], OHHHHHHHHHHHH
 WAIT A MINUTE.
 Someone just throw me a screenshot of the Qt theme selection under LXQt real quick.
 (So, under the Openbox settings I believe.)
[00:38] <lyorian> I just installed plastique so sorry on my vm and this one is a bit far from the stock install
[00:38] <lyorian> wait I have another vm handy
 If that darn thing is bare, there's a reason it defaulted back to that freaking Windows theme. If it isn't bare, then, well WTF O_O
 Yes please lynorian, the new VM :)
[00:42] <lyorian> https://imgur.com/a/T4vaJyD is a vm from a few days ago
[00:45] <wxl> don't look at me
 I think we have a common problem here boss.
 Wanna hunt down infinity who knows Perl better than both of us to look at that darn seed issue, which could be tasksel?
[00:46] <wxl> well as far as this issue is concerned, it's going to be moot if we get the changes Hans and Wendy did
 It needs to be a release blocker; it may be too late though for a Beta blocker though.
[00:46] <wxl> but also i've tried several times to poke people and haven't got a sufficient response
 Ugh.
[00:46] <wxl> and i don't know enough about it *at all* to even ask the right questions
 K I gotchu
 Sec.
[00:48] <lyorian> https://imgur.com/a/T4vaJyD
[00:54] <Wafficus_> hey guys, what's GNOME MPV known as in console?
[00:54] <Wafficus_> random question but I'm trying to force Ranger to use GNOME MPV for all .mp4 files
 wxl: Done, and please go save my awful awful English. :)
[00:56] <wxl> good enough
 @tsimonq2 what will be the set Qt Style, Fusion?
[01:07] <wxl> that's what Hans submitted
[01:07] <wxl> just need him to add his changelog
 Uh, should be Breeze. :)
[01:08] <lyorian> breeze was not on my screenshot 
[01:08] <wxl> naw we had a whole big discussion about that for days
 Well, I'm getting ready to start screen shots and wanted to double check. So I need to install breeze before doing screen shots...
 When was that? XD
[01:09] <wxl> while you were dying i think :)
 Breeze looks more consistent, what were the points against it? (I don't want to just come and crap all over the discussion, but a tl;dr would be cool)
[01:10] <wxl> i honestly don't care too much about how things look. i know what looks horrible (windows theme, for example) but between good and gooder? meh
[01:10] <wxl> i'd ask @HMollerCl
[01:10] <wxl> in fact you might want to ask him on that merge
 I know I saw @tsimonq2 mention breeze dark today.
[01:11] <wxl> yeah well we never had it set to breeze dark, ever, so that might be a thing
 @TheWendyPower [I know I saw @tsimonq2 mention breeze dark today.], Oh, because I confused it with Papirus I think.
 So the Qt Style should = breeze not Fusion or breeze dark
 Breeze
 That is what I'll screen shot then!
[01:18] <wxl> i think that much of hans' work was based off of the notion of using fusion
 Ok
 Let's talk to him
 Well with Breeze not being installed, I'm sure that is part of it.
 I don't really care buuut :)
[01:20] <wxl> i don't care at all
[01:20] <wxl> i don't like ugly
[01:20] <wxl> and that's about it
[01:20] <wxl> gorgeous is not a requirement
 Breeze looks good, as does Fusion. Breeze is a bit rounder on the edges. Anything looks better than Windows!!!
[01:21] <wxl> ANYTHING
[01:21] <wxl> we could actually start using fusion now since it's not problematic seed wise :/
[01:25] <wxl> around here was the beginning of the discussion https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/09/07/%23lubuntu-devel.html
 (Photo, 611x496) https://i.imgur.com/Mne21iO.jpg
 (Photo, 611x496) https://i.imgur.com/0kpHjFg.jpg
 Again, I'm a fan of Breeze, but if @HMollerCl has a good argument for Fusion I'm all ears.
 Same with @VikingRedwolf, who I have no doubt had this argument with before once upon a time.
[01:49] <lyorian> breeze or fusion are ok I just think windows looks bad and definetly don't bring back the blackberry themes that were broken
 Hi, let me open my PC to see way we don't chose breeze
 I remember that @VikingRedwolf said dark titlebar and light window
 And that there were some themes that messes everything (in August dailies)
 The other option that is good is to use gtk2 theme. That mimics the chosen gtk theme
 (Photo, 675x495) https://i.imgur.com/A8nEvqi.jpg Ok, this is the Breeze I have, it's completely dark, and we decided that titlbar should be dark but window light
 Do you have another Breeze?
 Hmm I do.
 That's weird 🤔
 @HMollerCl The Breeze I have is light. See above. I'll reboot with it set to breeze just to make sure.
 @TheWendyPower, wxl, @VikingRedwolf: Thoughts on making the bird wallpaper the default for this release? It just looks soooooo good.
 I will run anothe daily (this one is from august)
 @HMollerCl [I will run anothe daily (this one is from august)], Ack :)
 @HMollerCl [I will run anothe daily (this one is from august)], I'm using the 2018/09/25 daily.
 @tsimonq2 [@TheWendyPower, wxl, @VikingRedwolf: Thoughts on making the bird wallpaper the d …], I haven't looked at the wallpapers. I'll do that after dinner.
 @TheWendyPower [I haven't looked at the wallpapers. I'll do that after dinner.], Thanks! Enjoy your dinner 😁
 (New chat photo, 640x640) https://i.imgur.com/0nxniDM.jpg
 LENNY CUTTLEFISH!
 The other daily one I have is from 22sept and it only has Windows and Fusion. Will install Breeze and let you know
 @HMollerCl [The other daily one I have is from 22sept and it only has Windows and Fusion. Wi …], Wrong channel :)
 Er
 Right channel
 Hehe, my bad :D
 jeje
 Thanks
 ok, the Breeze I got inow s light
 personally find that dropbox are too big
 and buttons
[02:38] <wxl[m]> I like the bird
 Qt Curve is also nice
 In qterminal, I don't see difference between windows, Qt Curve and Breeze.
 mmm that's weird, I will logout and see if it change
 yes, now changes. Breeze gives more space Fusion is more "compact"
 so, what did I do, do the changelog with fusion and then change it we decide different? Or put breeze? or wait?
 I'm still leaning towards Breeze all the way but what do you think wxl?
 @wxl [<wxl> 7. `dch -i` -- this should open your editor with debian/changelog in it wi …], why 1.14? that's for lubuntu-default-settings and/or lubuntu-artwork ???
[02:57] <lyorian> I like the bird wallpaper
 @wxl [<wxl> that sort of thing is something nearly anyone can do, even if it's just do …], @wxl @tsimonq2 I took a stab at this. It may be a little rough and could probably use some more meat. I'll need some guidance on where to go from here if you still need it.
 Hitting the hay for a few, give me an at and I will look for it in the morning.
 @kc2bez [@wxl @tsimonq2 I took a stab at this. It may be a little rough and could probabl …], Awesome!
 wxl: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/cosmic/+upload/19032093/+files/tasksel_3.34ubuntu12_source.changes in Cosmic UNAPPROVED
 @tsimonq2 [Awesome!], Noob corner here. What do I need to do to get my MD in a place where you can get at it?
 @kc2bez [Noob corner here. What do I need to do to get my MD in a place where you can get …], Just put it in a plaintext file called e.g. SOMETHING.md and send it to me privately as an attachment.
 I will do that shortly. Thanks.
 @tsimonq2 I didn't see any bird wallpaper.
 @TheWendyPower [@tsimonq2 I didn't see any bird wallpaper.], Look closer 😉
 It's in the same directory as the default one.
 Try changing the wallpaper on the daily.
 I'll check again, all I saw was the default.
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-artwork/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/src/usr/share/lubuntu/wallpapers/1804-lubuntu-default-wallpaper-h.png;768d46045279f5c1827c22a13e53e54afe475e89?as=image
 Raw link: https://phab.lubuntu.me/file/data/up6iy6lmxngzksmk4ejn/PHID-FILE-bka2bt46od2aczn6sdhm/1804-lubuntu-default-wallpaper-h.png
 I love that wallpaper
 I remember that actually Breeze is the last dailies I installed (until 22sept) But it doesn't apply because it is not installed
 It is a cool wallpaper. It looks a bit funny used as my 3 screens break it up.
 Here https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/lxqt/lxqt.conf$12
 @TheWendyPower [It is a cool wallpaper. It looks a bit funny used as my 3 screens break it up.], You should use my script to solve it. I'm not in my computer now, but you can search it in launchpad under stitchWP
 Under hmollercl
 That looks much better! Thank you @HMollerCl
 👍
 Currently it only works for stretch and fit though
 And there is no way to put different wallpapers for each screen
 It works just fine. More than one wallpaper is nice, but not a must.
 (Photo, 614x440) https://i.imgur.com/neJTzEJ.jpg @tsimonq2 @TheWendyPower @wxl I just booted with yesterdays daily and Breeze Theme is not present (only Windows and Fusion). That's why it fallback to Windows (xdg lxqt.conf has Breeze).
 what should I do? I'm waiting your decision to do the changelog
 I had to install Breeze yesterday to try it out. I would liek to get this nailed down, as I don't want to do any of the screenshots until I know for sure what all those settings are going to be.
 I did do a arc diff for the task bar buttons this morning. Once that is done I'll work on the changes to globalkeys.
 @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], The problem is actually ours. Please propose a diff to https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu adding the Breeze theme before the Breeze Cursor theme in `desktop` and in settings + the changelog entry, make Breeze the default.
 @TheWendyPower [I did do a arc diff for the task bar buttons this morning. Once that is done I'l …], Please get wxl to look it over as well but conceptually it looks good to me.
 Will do, thanks @tsimonq2
 ok, so I will revert my change to Fusion, leaving Breeze.
 @tsimonq2 [The problem is actually ours. Please propose a diff to https://git.launchpad.net …], this is git not phab?
 @HMollerCl [this is git not phab?], Launchpad
[15:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED59d429fea199: Add mising Task headers to live seed.] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED59d429fea199
[15:47] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.9 => 1.10] (lubuntu)
[16:38] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.10]
[17:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED541e7744933d: Revert "Add xfsprogs to provide XFS support in Calamares."] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED541e7744933d
[17:08] <wxl> @HMollerCl you do need a changelog, as aforementioned. if you revert Fusion that's ok, but i think leave it is fine, too. we have to make sure that we have the breeze package in the seed and i'm not sure @tsimonq2 did that
 ok
 I will do he changelog with fusion, the if breeze is tehre we can change
 wxl: Adam fixed xfsprogs, go buy him many beers :)
[17:13] <wxl> i saw
[17:13] <wxl> and it looks like the fix is dead simple
[17:14] <wxl> so the reversion of xfsprogs was necessary because some other package provides it?
 @wxl you told me that the chnagelog entry should be 1.14. How yo now that? Tha is for lububuntu default settings and/or lubuntu-artwork ?
 as i see in artwork should be 1.8
[17:19] <wxl> uh
[17:19] <wxl> @HMollerCl link me to that MR please?
 MR?
[17:20] <wxl> merge request
 https://code.launchpad.net/~hmollercl/lubuntu-artwork/+git/lubuntu-artwork/+ref/ubuntu/cosmic
[17:23] <wxl> that's not the one i commented on
 ok
 I will do the other
[17:28] <wxl> my *personal* feeling is that lubuntu-artwork should be for artistic assets and lubuntu-default-settings should include visual/aesthetic preferences for the DE
[17:28] <wxl> so i'd propose that first one over the lubuntu-default-settings
[17:28] <wxl> heck, add it to this one
[17:31] <wxl> i guess my "personal feeling" is consistent with the way we do things. list of files in lubuntu-artwork does not include any configurations https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/all/lubuntu-artwork/filelist
 In lubuntu artwork I was adding the border to the theme.
[17:32] <wxl> oh! right, yeah that makes sense
 anyway after the dch -i what should I do?
[17:32] <wxl> fill in the little bullet points, e.g.
 git add what?
[17:32] <wxl>  * I changed this thing.
[17:33] <wxl>  * I changed that thing, etc.
[17:33] <wxl> git add the files that changes
[17:33] <wxl> you can see git status to get a feel for things
 @wxl [<wxl> git add the files that changes], but I already added those, for proposal
[17:33] <wxl> if you didn't add any extra files (such as you might when pulling source, etc.), you could `git add -A`
[17:34] <wxl> right and those have already been committed
[17:34] <wxl> so assumedly this would only be the changelog, so `git add debian/changelog` should do the trick
[17:34] <wxl> i'm not sure if you reverted the Fusion
[17:34] <wxl> if you did, you'd want to add that
 @wxl [<wxl> so the reversion of xfsprogs was necessary because some other package prov …], Ish, yeah.
 ok, that was the one i was searching
[17:35] <wxl> @tsimonq2: so what about the pulse/bt module?
 @wxl ok, it's pushed with changelog https://code.launchpad.net/~hmollercl/lubuntu-default-settings/+git/lubuntu-default-settings/+merge/355516
 maybe teh artwork is better I do it on phab? I can add the thicker border to.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: so what about the pulse/bt module?], In the recent seed update.
[17:38] <wxl> a quick comment about version numbers (feel free to add something like this to the tutorial, as it's helpful): check the changelog in the repository and the one in the actual achive on launchpad (with duckduckgo: !upkg source-package-name). if they match, use the next one. if phab is higher, don't add a new entry but add to it (dch -a). be careful to look out for anything in proposed on the archive. 
[17:38] <wxl> you won't see it available in the repos normally or in isos, but it's coming soon.
[17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEd5556f177d3a: DSC file for 1.10] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEd5556f177d3a
[17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEe5ef6564e63a: Import patches-unapplied version 1.10 to ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEe5ef6564e63a
[17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEd66edfdb089b: Import patches-applied version 1.10 to applied/ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEd66edfdb089b
[17:38] <wxl> one other thing: native packages kind of go like you would normally think (1.2, 1.3, 1.4, etc.) but normally you would expect there to be ubuntu patch changes so you'd see something like 1.2-0ubuntu1, 1.2-0ubuntu2, 1.2-0ubuntu3, etc.
[17:40] <wxl> @HMollerCl do you actually have <<<<<<< debian/changelog in your debian/changelog?
[17:41] <wxl> @HMollerCl i think using phab is ALWAYS easier, personally
[17:41] <wxl> @tsimonq2: the question about the pulse/bt module is whether or not we need to specify it, as it may just come along with bluedevil. any way to figure that out?
[17:41] <wxl> also big ups to @kc2bez for the writing. did that get put up somewhere?
[17:42] <wxl> and can someone do me a favor and ping the lubuntu-devel list for testers for the iso images we plan to release tomorrow? 
[17:42]  * wxl bites fingernails... wait.. no fingernails left
[17:42] <wxl> @HMollerCl oh and all that talk about version numbers: yes, lubuntu-artwork would be 1.8
[17:53] <wxl> OH
[17:54] <wxl> and if anyone is doing that lubuntu-devel post (please) please make a note that we need i386 testers. if we don't have sufficient i386 testers all throughout this cycle, we'll likely drop the architecture
[18:00] <wxl> @TheWendyPower i think we still plan on taking that annoying MR from launchpad and doing it on phab, right?
[18:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Calamares should let the user pick what applications they WANT to use] SBanya (Samuel Banya) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#1496
[18:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Calamares should let the user pick what applications they WANT to use] SBanya (Samuel Banya) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#1497
[18:09] <wxl> i'm kind of drowning at work here so if someone wants to do that announcement ASAP i'll be your BFF
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: the question about the pulse/bt module is whether or not we nee …], aptitude? XD
[18:14] <wxl> um no thanks. that stuff is contagious
 @HMollerCl [maybe teh artwork is better I do it on phab? I can add the thicker border to.], That would be great!
 @wxl [<wxl> @TheWendyPower i think we still plan on taking that annoying MR from launc …], MR?
 Hey wxl, you know we can use an entirely Phab workflow but still use LP on the backend as long as the remotes are set up correctly in the local copies, riiight? :)
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl do you actually have <<<<<<< debian/changelog in your debian/ch …], yes
 I push it, you can see here
 https://git.launchpad.net/~hmollercl/lubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=cab14f0da31e0d0fc9fbf586115ed45f0937c875
 I added changelog of lubuntu artwork also
[18:31] <wxl> @TheWendyPower Merge Request.. Launchpad language
[18:32] <wxl> @tsimonq2: yes i know but i'd consider that a slightly more advanced thing
[18:32] <wxl> @HMollerCl you don't want those. remove them.
[18:32] <wxl> tbh i'm not sure how they got there. that's weird.
[18:32]  * wxl drinks nitro cold brew
 We were having a heck of a lot of problems with the merge request. This morning I submitted the changes through arc diff.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: yes i know but i'd consider that a slightly more advanced thing], Bah, you'd consider just doing `arc diff` more complex than dealing with *gasp* Launchpad?
[18:33] <lyorian> why is this on the tracker for cosmic? bug 1794440
 As long as the remote locally matches what a remote says in Phab it should DTRT.
 If that is good then I'll do are commit.
[18:34] <wxl> YOU RULE WENDY
 @lyorian [<lyorian> why is this on the tracker for cosmic? bug 1794440], Not on our list, we're free from lxterminal.
[18:34] <wxl> @tsimonq2: no i mean setting up the remotes
[18:34] <wxl> lyorian: i asked jbicha who's the one that reported it. haven't heard
 I'm actually curious to see what happens to a system when upgraded from stock 18.04 to 18.10... Has anyone actually tested that yet? XD
[18:35] <wxl> um
[18:35] <wxl> yeah that needs to be done before release
[18:35] <wxl> and we need docs/etc
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: no i mean setting up the remotes], As long as the initial clone is correct, people don't need to mess around with it.
 @wxl [<wxl> also big ups to @kc2bez for the writing. did that get put up somewhere?], Thanks. It likely needs some edits. I sent it to @tsimonq2 via telegram this morning.
[18:35] <wxl> i'll take your word for it tsimonq2 
 So about what Dan just sent me XD
 I can't view it on mobile and ENOENERGY
 Sooo just send it here please @kc2bez? :))
[18:37] <wxl> like pastebinit
[18:37] <wxl> BTW i'm not sure everyone understands system call errors XD
 System calls are sort of easy to interpret with me XD
 E is error, W is warning, I is info, etc. and then the rest is in all caps.
 So e.g. ENOCOMPUTER means I need a computer to do that, heh
[18:40] <lyorian> hmmm also wierd on the tracker why is i386 925.1 and the amd64 925
 Because i386 is freaking weird and we're going to get a respin anyway because Desktop decided we need to do a last minute Mesa respin.
[18:42] <lyorian> ok
[18:42] <wxl> re: that lxterminal bug, removed iso-testing tag with a note and deleted the result on the tracker
 Love you long time
 Your "pastebinit" wxl XD
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/TI6FNnhp/file_4148.md
 or https://pastebin.com/MpSuPKry
[18:47] <wxl> k
[18:47] <wxl> hopefully i have a sufficient development environment here
[18:47] <wxl> um
[18:47] <wxl> what kicks it off on the blog? is this in the yaml?
[18:47] <wxl> like i can toggle something?
 Uhh
 It's complicated XD
 For now just put the YAML file in the right dir
[18:49] <wxl> i was thinking i'd put it in there and then mess with it later
[18:49] <wxl> so i guess i'll just not add the yaml for now
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl you don't want those. remove them.], what Is what I don't want?
[18:51] <wxl> @HMollerCl the lines with debian/changelog and angle brackets
[18:52] <wxl> @kc2bez you into doing that announcement for testers to the mailing list?
 If it can wait until I get home from work. I get home about 6 PM eastern.
[18:54] <wxl> @kc2bez well so far i'm having a monday, so that may work, but asap is ideal
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl the lines with debian/changelog and angle brackets], sorry, I don't understan if changelog file change, they go with the commit and push.
[18:56] <wxl> @HMollerCl well note none of the other files have that same problem
[18:57] <wxl> oh nevermind actually
[18:57] <wxl> i guess that is some weird thing
[18:58] <wxl> OH
 @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez well so far i'm having a monday, so that may work, but asap is ide …], I will try but if someone can get to it before me feel free.
[18:58] <wxl> i see the problem
[18:58] <wxl> there's a 1.11 in the upstream. you need to pull in those changes
[18:59] <wxl> look here https://git.launchpad.net/~hmollercl/lubuntu-default-settings/tree/debian/changelog
[18:59] <wxl> versus here https://git.launchpad.net/lubuntu-default-settings/tree/debian/changelog?h=ubuntu/cosmic
 @HMollerCl [<reply to image>], eeww
[18:59] <wxl> i think i see the problem
[18:59] <wxl> you were working off the wrong branch
[19:00] <wxl> :(
[19:00] <wxl> so maybe just start over and do this in phab the right way......... unless you want to do some hacking (going to the right branch, modifying your diff until you can apply it)
[19:03] <wxl> the other thing you MIGHT be able to do is to copy over the debian/changelog from the right branch wholesale and then edit it
 I will do it in phab
[19:05] <wxl> :)
 I will erease lubuntu-artwork and lubuntu-default-settings from my launchpad to avoid mistakes
[19:06] <wxl> sounds good
 wxl: Dude, juct create a sane looking announcement directory like any other and drop Dan's post under there as "post.md" :)
 is lubuntu-artwork in phabricator?
[19:12] <wxl> yep, rART
 phabricator-ssh-exec: This repository ("lubuntu-artwork") is not available over SSH.
[19:14] <wxl> what exactly are you trying to do?
[19:14] <wxl> the command
 git clone ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/lubuntu-artwork.git
 the same I did with lubuntu-default-seetings and worked
 @VikingRedwolf [eeww], Exactly! We're working on getting that corrected.
 @HMollerCl [the same I did with lubuntu-default-seetings and worked], There is only one clone url for artwork and it is not ssh. Settings has two clone urls and one is ssh clone option.
 aaaa, lubuntu-artwork is not in phab!!!
[19:23] <wxl> it is. but it isn't.
[19:23] <wxl> the remotes are not the same as normal (i.e. they're not in phab) but it works the same
 so, clone from this? https://git.launchpad.net/lubuntu-artwork
 Yes
[19:24] <wxl> yep
[19:31] <wxl> oh great only 71 new emails
[19:31] <wxl> ughhhhhhhhhhhhh
 @TheWendyPower [Yes], could you tell me how to configure arcanist?
 nevermind, got it
 @wxl [<wxl> oh great only 71 new emails], Try subscribing to the devel-changes list right before a big transition. XD
 ok, lubuntu-default-settings arc diff'ed'
 @HMollerCl [nevermind, got it], Sorry, I was on the phone.
 lubuntu-artwork with blue border and border width of 2 was also arc diffed
 BOOM!!!
 @tsimonq2 [The problem is actually ours. Please propose a diff to https://git.launchpad.net …], just to be clear, this should go launchpad, not phab. Or should it go to phab?
 I think phab... IDK @wxl
[21:09] <wxl> what's the context here @HMollerCl ? i only see part of what you're quoting
 add Breez theme
 @ts
 @tsimonq2 says I should add a diff here https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu
[21:12] <wxl> you can do that through phab
[21:12] <wxl> rSEEDS
 rSEEDS ?
[21:13] <wxl> stick that in the search box at the top of phab
[21:13] <wxl> sorry, rSEED
 so this? https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/
[21:14] <wxl> yuppers
 @wxl do I need to wait for review to push the arc commit?
[21:16] <wxl> @TheWendyPower i don't think you can actually `arc land` it... `arc diff` actually sends it for review
[21:19] <wxl> @tsimonq2: does accepting on phab automatically land it?
 So I just tried ti 'arc land" I'm  gettign a 403 error. WTH!
[21:21] <wxl> ugh yeah i don't have arc setup here. siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
[21:21] <wxl> i'd use my container on the server but the disk space is too low :( @tsimonq2 
 I was getting that error with git too. I can 'arc diff' but not 'arc land'
[21:23] <wxl> right. like i said, it's a permissions thing
 ok https://phab.lubuntu.me/D17 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D18 and https://phab.lubuntu.me/D19 are mine
 @tsimonq2 [The problem is actually ours. Please propose a diff to https://git.launchpad.net …], you said I should add breeze to desktop +settings.  What you mean with settings? I already added in desktop
[21:28] <wxl> he probably means in lieu of Fusion
[21:28] <wxl> @HMollerCl please add me as review on your diffs in the future
[21:29] <wxl> oh you didn't add any reviewers!
[21:29] <wxl> me and @tsimonq2 then
[21:30] <wxl> !info breeze cosmic
 @wxl [<wxl> he probably means in lieu of Fusion], If Breeze works we can change back to Breeze.
[21:31] <wxl> do we actually want all of breeze?
 @wxl [<wxl> oh you didn't add any reviewers!], should I change something now? How should I add you? As wxl an tsimonq? Walter and SImon?
 @wxl [<wxl> do we actually want all of breeze?], @tsimonq2  want's it
[21:31] <wxl> all of it though? it's a metapackage that includes a bunch
[21:33] <wxl> @HMollerCl load it up on phab and at the bottom click "Add Action" and "Change Reviewers" and add the two of us. in the future when you `arc diff` pay attention to the "Reviewers" section of the template
 ok
 @wxl [<wxl> all of it though? it's a metapackage that includes a bunch], maybe kde-style-breeze is enough https://packages.ubuntu.com/cosmic/kde-style-breeze
[21:40] <wxl> i seem to remember lyorian saying something about the one breeze package we needed to make it work. i thought it was qt-something but i guess not
[21:40] <lyorian> wxl that was for plastique
[21:40] <wxl> ah, foo
[21:41] <lyorian> qt5-style-plugin-plastique it does not add much to iso size or installed disk size
[21:42] <lyorian> it was like 70 or so KB
[21:43] <lyorian> how much uneeded stuff did breeze pull in
 kde-style-breeze (= 4:5.13.5-0ubuntu1) ...     Widget style for Qt and KDE Software
 Download kde-style-breeze ... Architecture   Package Size   Installed Size ... amd64   199.4 kB  949.0 kB
[21:43] <wxl> try it out and see if that alone will do the trick
[21:44] <wxl> meanwhile wow it's surprising what a big difference a single pixel on the border makes
 Ya, it makes it much easier to grab!
[21:44] <lyorian> yeah that is like nearly threetimes download size
 Just to add Breeze?
[21:45] <lyorian> no of plastique package
[21:45] <lyorian> I don'[t know if breeze does that much more
[21:45] <wxl> yeah so make sure your Qt theme is set to Breeze (in lxqt.conf) and keep poking at it until you don't see Windows XD
[21:46] <wxl> lyorian: i think we've sort of decided it's down to either Fusion or Breeze
[21:46] <lyorian> awww ok
[21:46] <lyorian> at elast I know the package name
[21:46] <lyorian> and I can change it easy enough
[21:46] <lyorian> might make a screenshot vm once this is all decided for the manual
 @wxl [<wxl> try it out and see if that alone will do the trick], I tried and it work n my (messi) environment. I changed it in phab to kde-style-breeze .
[22:15] <wxl> k just need us to make a decision on Fusion or Breeze or what
 I'm not sure if breeze will work ok if it comes with the iso. The only time I've seen a breeze in the iso, in august, it was dark. However, in newer dailies, since it doesn't come, when I installed it is light.
 I prefer to wait and see.
 That meaning, shipping the two and test them, then we change lxqt.conf accordingly.
[22:19] <wxl> well i mean if we want to test, just install the package restart
[22:19] <wxl> even in a live environment (sudo service sddm restart)
 @wxl [<wxl> even in a live environment (sudo service sddm restart)], yes, but in one installation I have (from august) after purging, reinstalling, restarting it's still dark, and in anotther (newer) is light.
[22:28] <wxl> doing the exact same thing????
[22:28] <wxl> that makes no sense!
 I know, that's what I don't understand
[22:29] <wxl> i mean what you should do is copy over all the configs (gtk, qt, etc.) and make sure everything is the same
 @kc2bez [I will try but if someone can get to it before me feel free.], I have something crafted. One thing I need is a url for where the announcement will be.
[22:30] <wxl> @kc2bez i meant a call for testers, not an announcement email.. but that will be eventually useful
 (Photo, 675x495) https://i.imgur.com/uHERrvI.jpg this is how I see it in august daily
 Ah gotcha. I can fix it up. Sorry about the confusion. @wxl
[22:32] <wxl> @kc2bez probably my bad, so sorry. but what you did WILL be useful!
 @kc2bez You are awesome!
 Saving it for later. I will get something in the hopper.
 I wouldn't mind if someone would proof this before it gets sent.
 I can do a proof in about 45 minutes.
[22:51] <wxl> pastebinit
 https://pastebin.com/BAhcUX77
[23:05] <wxl> @kc2bez looks good. please add one other note about doing "exploratory testing" in that we don't JUST want people going through the testcases like normal but to actually be proactive and look for bugs and file them
[23:05] <wxl> also feel free to post that to the list, signed "on behalf of the Lubuntu QA Team" :)
 Can do. Give me couple and I will try to get it sent out.
[23:07] <wxl> YOU ROCK
[23:08] <wxl> want to go above and beyond the call of duty? post it to the lxqt forum. mention that it's our first release of lxqt as a distro and we could use as many eyes on it as possible
[23:08] <wxl> oh and putting it under the flavors section of discourse.ubuntu.com
[23:08] <wxl> andddd maybe the ubuntu-quality forum
[23:09] <wxl> s/forum/mailing list/
 @tsimonq2 Cthulhu tux?
 Or is that supposed to be something else?
[23:18] <lyorian> respin done?
[23:24] <wxl> i don't think it even affects us
[23:26] <lyorian> ok
[23:26] <wxl> you rock @kc2bez
[23:28] <wxl> tooted
[23:28] <wxl> should be on twitter soon
[23:28] <wxl> retoot ya'll https://mastodon.technology/@lubuntu/100794664009269888
[23:30] <wxl> retweet https://mobile.twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1045093034105262080?p=p
 @wxl [<wxl> you rock @kc2bez], You rock @wxl! My part is trivial. I am not on the other mailing lists but will look into it. In the meantime if someone could forward, that would be cool.
[23:39] <wxl> @kc2bez lists.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quality .. you should be able to post there without being a member
 I'm on it.
[23:39] <wxl> and you can get an account on the discourse using your launchpad account but here's the section https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/flavors
[23:43] <wxl> here's the right place on the lxqt forum https://forum.lxqt.org/c/discussions
[23:59] <lyorian> grr flaky usb key