[00:37] <jbicha> RAOF: please push your pristine-tar branch for colord
[01:20] <jbicha> upstream branch too
[01:29] <RAOF> jbicha: They're already pushed?
[01:30] <RAOF> As far as I can tell.
[01:36] <jbicha> RAOF: no, there's only the master branch https://salsa.debian.org/debian/colord/branches
[01:36] <RAOF> Huh. That 404s for me!
[01:37] <RAOF> jbicha: Would you kindly pull the pristine-tar and upstream branches from https://salsa.debian.org/raof-guest/colord ?
[01:39] <jbicha> RAOF: I gave you access instead
[01:40] <RAOF> I will accept that as a workable solution :)
[01:40] <jbicha> I've never seen that meson build stamp stuff before but I guess it makes sense
[01:41] <RAOF> jbicha: It's a huge faff.
[01:41] <RAOF> Because meson won't let you generate the build system twice.
[01:42] <jbicha> maybe you could ask debhelper to allow maintainers a more elegant way of overriding configure flags for arch-indep
[01:43] <jbicha> there's a nodoc build profile that probably works for most cases like that, but these aren't docs
[01:52] <jbicha> the repo is private, that's very strange
[01:55] <RAOF> I didn't set it up; blame Seb :)
[07:18] <didrocks> good morning
[07:55] <willcooke> morning all
[07:55] <willcooke> suddenly Wednesday
[08:00] <jibel> morning willcooke
[08:01] <Laney> suppington
[08:01] <jibel> willcooke, could you try latest Cosmic in vbox again and check if you reproduce the problem from last week? It works for me but I'm on cosmic and it's a newer version of virtualbox
[08:01] <willcooke> jibel, sure thing
[08:02] <willcooke> jibel, this image?  2018-09-25 16:45	1.9G
[08:02] <willcooke> current or pending
[08:02] <willcooke> oh, they are the same
[08:03] <willcooke> We should probably think about removing this text now:
[08:03] <willcooke> "Warning: This image is oversized (which is a bug) and will not fit onto a standard 703MiB CD. However, you may still test it using a DVD, a USB drive, or a virtual machine."
[08:03] <willcooke> since it's a bug which is never ever going to get fixed
[08:04] <willcooke> Any ideas who owns that page?
[08:04] <jibel> willcooke, yes this image
[08:04] <jibel> cdimage AFAIR
[08:04] <jibel> there might be a bug existing already
[08:05] <jibel> cannot find the exact package name, I'll search
[08:05] <willcooke> jibel, don't worry about it now
[08:05] <willcooke> not important
[08:05] <willcooke> I'll speak to inifinity at the release sprint
[08:10] <Laney> it's lp:ubuntu-cdimage
[08:10] <Laney> size_limit() function
[08:11] <willcooke> hi Laney
[08:11] <Laney> guten tag
[08:11] <willcooke> ca va?
[08:12] <willcooke> jibel, black screen here
[08:13] <Laney> muy bien
[08:13] <Laney> А вы?
[08:13] <willcooke> estic cansat
[08:14] <Laney> 😫
[08:17] <jibel> willcooke, which version of bionic?
[08:17] <jibel> s/bionic/vbox/
[08:18] <willcooke> jibel,
[08:18] <willcooke> virtualbox:
[08:18] <willcooke>   Installed: 5.2.10-dfsg-6ubuntu18.04.1
[08:18] <willcooke>   Candidate: 5.2.10-dfsg-6ubuntu18.04.1
[08:18] <willcooke>   Version table:
[08:18] <willcooke>  *** 5.2.10-dfsg-6ubuntu18.04.1 500
[08:18] <willcooke>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages
[08:18] <willcooke>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:18] <willcooke>      5.2.10-dfsg-6 500
[08:18] <willcooke>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/multiverse amd64 Packages
[08:19] <willcooke> jibel, I removed quiet and splash from the kernel options and I got a live session log in screen
[08:19]  * willcooke looks at Plymouth 
[08:20] <jibel> willcooke, it'sthe same problem I had last week, on my laptop, the shell fails to start
[08:23] <jibel> ah, it doesn't boot after installation, same problem than yesterday
[08:24] <Laney> probably will get the new gdm later today
[08:25] <Laney> maybe you can try that to see if it changes anything
[08:25] <willcooke> my vm has locked up now
[08:25] <jibel> it seems to be when snaps are installing
[08:25] <willcooke> after reporting a problem with xorg
[08:25] <willcooke> jibel, I didnt even get that far
[08:25] <willcooke> I'll try agai
[08:26] <jibel> willcooke, can you try the version of vbox from cosmic. If it's installable on bionic of course
[08:27] <willcooke> the "Live Session User" should have no password, right?
[08:27] <willcooke> i.e. it's not "ubuntu"
[08:28] <willcooke> jibel I got in to a live session this time (removing quiet & splash  from the boot options) and I'm trying the install now
[08:28] <willcooke> I get "Would you like to report an error" about xorg, but it still seems to be running
[08:33] <willcooke> jibel, I'll nurse this through installation and then try a different version of vbox
[08:33] <willcooke> it feels a bit slugish right now
[08:33] <willcooke> like something's not right
[08:34] <jibel> willcooke, it's bug 1432137, xorg crashes, the shell cannot start and the session restarts
[08:41] <willcooke> jibel, yeah, it;s dead.  Ok, trying the Cosmic version of virtual box
[08:41] <willcooke> hm, I dont want to scre up this machine
[08:41] <willcooke> I will install B on my test machine and try it there
[08:42] <willcooke> but before I do that I have to finish a couple of other things, can it wait a few hours?
[08:43] <jibel> willcooke, np, i'll do it
[08:45] <willcooke> jibel, I can make a start, I'll let you know how far I get
[08:46] <jibel> is there a way to "unseed" snap so the system is in the same state than first boot?
[08:46] <willcooke> e.g. while it's installing I can write docs
[08:46] <willcooke> not sure
[08:47] <willcooke> as in, the snaps haven't been started or updated?
[08:47] <willcooke> You could rm -rf the ~/snap dir?
[08:52] <jibel> like the snaps have never been installed on the system
[08:52] <jibel> and installed on boot
[08:52] <willcooke> ah
[08:53] <jibel> I think that's what causes the black screen
[09:26] <willcooke> jibel, B installed on my test machine
[09:26] <willcooke> jibel, shall I just try and install the vbox debs from C?
[09:27] <jibel> willcooke, yes, if the kernel module is compatible with the kernel from B it should work fine
[09:31] <willcooke> jibel, lots of missing deps, mainly around qt, this will take me a while to unpick
[09:32] <willcooke> urgh, and libc
[11:26] <willcooke> Would one expect that software-properies-gtk does not show that nvidia proprietary drivers are available in the live session?
[11:26] <willcooke> i.e. I open it and it says there arent any drivers, but I think that there should be
[12:05] <Laney> jibel: might want to try the gdm in ppa:laney/ppa to see if it changes your bug at all
[12:21] <jibel> Laney, I've another failed boot. I'll try your ppa
[12:21] <jibel> I cannot even switch to a tty
[12:31] <cpaelzer> tkamppeter: would you have an advice what a good next step to debug http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sDWCS83qKd/ might be?
[12:31] <cpaelzer> The TL;DR is - it sometimes works after boot, but if it doesn't then no printer on/off nor cable replug can resovle it
[12:32] <cpaelzer> the /dev/usb/lp1 entry that it would usually gain never appears and I'm lost where to check for more
[12:32] <cpaelzer> I wondered if I should try a HWE kernel, but wanted to hear your opinion first
[12:51] <jibel> would anyone know a way to disable snaps initialization on first boot?
[12:57] <willcooke> jibel, like stopping snapd from starting?  Can we just disable the systemd unit?
[12:59] <jibel> willcooke, another machine running cosmic, same version of vbox and cosmic doesn't start
[13:00] <tkamppeter> cpaelzer, do  not worry about the usblp kernel module. It is not used any more for years. The USB CUPS backend does raw USB access via libusb. Otherwise have a look at the "USB printer" section on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems.
[13:01] <willcooke> jibel, I dont follow, are you saying its racey?
[13:01] <tkamppeter> Anyone can help me on a gnome-control-center/network setup issue?
[13:03] <tkamppeter> I have a problem with gnome-control-center. In the VPN config window the green "Apply" button is always grayed out and I cannot change my settings.
[13:05] <willcooke> tkamppeter, which sort of VPN?
[13:06] <willcooke> PPTP or OpenVPNB
[13:06] <willcooke> *OpenVPN
[13:13] <tkamppeter> willcooke, our Canonical VPN.
[13:15] <tkamppeter> willcooke, I do not know whether it is PPTP or OpenVPN.
[13:16] <tkamppeter> willcooke, I also selected the config where the VPN is only used for the internal hosts for which the VPN is actually needed.
[13:18] <tkamppeter> willcooke, another hint: On Monday it happened to me that my home directory ran full. I immediately cleaned up to have space again, but I do not know whether it can have broken something in my g-c-c config, perhaps something which allowed me as normal user having root access to certain config settings.
[13:51] <tkamppeter> Anyone has an idea here?
[13:53] <willcooke> tkamppeter, Our VPN is OpenVPN
[13:54] <tkamppeter> willcooke, any hint? Whon could help me with this?
[13:54] <willcooke> tkamppeter, can you send me a screenshot of the config you've got set up so far
[13:54] <willcooke> I got it working, so it must be possible
[13:55] <tkamppeter> willcooke, I got it working in the first place and then it suddenly stopped.
[13:55] <tkamppeter> Probably I will simply remove everything related to it and follow the instructions again, as I had nver done it.
[13:57] <tkamppeter> I hoped that I am here with the guys who maintain g-c-c and have a quick hint for me.
[14:06] <jibel> Laney, when booting an iso do you know if it's possible to break after the squashfs is mounted but before ubiquity-dm starts?
[14:09] <Laney> jibel: I usually use systemd.unit=rescue.target
[14:09] <Laney> and then systemctl start network-online.target to get network
[14:09] <Laney> is that enough?
[14:11] <jibel> Laney, yes it should.
[14:12] <tjaalton> jibel: you've filed the same bug twice now :) please install the new mesa, it should fix it
[14:13] <tjaalton> jibel: oh, unduped it.. that's better
[14:13] <jibel> tjaalton, actually I am not sure they are duplicates because the boot failure happens without the xorg crash and on errors.u.c there are no crahs for cosmic
[14:15] <tjaalton> that crash is just a symptom of a failure somewhere else, like in this case the gallium swrast driver
[14:20] <tjaalton> I wonder if it's a theme bug that I can't select text on a split terminator window from the start of the line, it always grabs the vertical border instead
[14:21] <tjaalton> in cosmic, bionic was fine but it has issues with some elements being transparent..
[14:23] <tkamppeter> willcooke, I have tried to enter all again and it seems that something has changed in the g-c-c. Now it seems to be required to have a CA private key or a CA key password. This is not contained in the provided credentials.
[14:24] <tkamppeter> willcooke, therefore the "Apply" button is grayed out.
[14:24] <willcooke> tkamppeter, I have a private key in my VPN set up, so I think it does exist, but likely the instructions haven't been updated recently
[14:25] <willcooke> fwiw, my private key is called "canonical-will.key" inside .vpn
[14:25] <willcooke> inside ~/.vpn/
[14:26] <tkamppeter> willcooke, this is the "User Private Key". What it also wants to have is a "CA Private Key".
[14:29] <willcooke> hm, not sure
[14:29] <willcooke> I'll set it up from scratch on another machine
[14:45] <Laney> tkamppeter: it's probably https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/network-manager-applet/issues/20
[14:45] <gitbot> GNOME issue 20 in network-manager-applet "Cannot import VPN configuration from standard ovpn files" [Closed]
[14:45] <Laney> maybe you could try the linked merge request (!27) and see if that fixes you
[14:48] <jibel> tjaalton, it boots with mesa from canonical-x ppa
[14:49] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[14:49] <Laney> de nada
[14:50] <tjaalton> jibel: great. it's uploaded to the queue already, should hopefully enter cosmic after the beta is out
[14:51] <willcooke> That means beta gets released broken though, right?
[14:52] <tjaalton> I'm not opposed if someone pings the release team about it.. I've tried
[14:52] <tjaalton> +else
[14:53] <tjaalton> uploaded it to the queue last night
[14:53] <willcooke> tjaalton, ack
[14:59] <tjaalton> pinged again
[15:25] <tkamppeter> Laney, thank you very much. I will try it soon. Is it already planned to go into Cosmic?
[15:28] <Laney> Don't know, but it would be a good idea
[17:00] <Trevinho> Laney: can you please publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3440 ?
[17:01] <Trevinho> Laney: no sorry, don't.
[17:02] <Trevinho> looks like I've to remerge the src in the pkg first -_-
[17:08] <jibel> sil2100, toreporduce bug 1794280 did you keep the default options in the installer?
[17:08] <jibel> to reproduce*
[17:19] <sil2100> jibel: basically only things I did was disable downloading updates during install and selected minimal
[17:19] <sil2100> jibel: rest was default basically
[17:21] <jibel> Laney, no improvement with your ppa
[17:22] <jibel> Laney, the difference is that gdm tries continuously to restart the session
[18:29] <Trevinho> Laney: https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/3440 now is fine
[20:45] <tkamppeter> Laney, I have tried the patch for libnma and now I can set up Canonical's VPNs again, the "CA Private Key" field simply went away after applying the patch. Thank you very much.
[20:46] <tkamppeter> Laney, so please let this patch go into Cosmic.
[20:50] <tkamppeter> Laney, only the DNS problem is not solved. I cannot connect to rugby.internal.