[00:53] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: I'm drained of energy being under the weather but Lubuntu has this seed issue we just can't seem to work out that's left over from the whole split seed thing. jbicha thinks it's tasksel, which very well could be the case because the darn package hasn't been touched since Artful, and I've only gotten as far as to see it doesn't reflect the Bazaar -> Git move. wxl can't make
[00:53] <tsimonq2> heads or tails of `ubuntu-seeds.pl` and I need to prioritize my health, but whatever the root cause is, it's a Release Blocker for Lubuntu. I understand it's likely too late for the Beta, fine, but for the final images someone should go through and port that over.
[00:54] <tsimonq2> Xubuntu will probably see effects soon, if Xubuntu Core didn't exist before Artful, and we will too because the Platform seed was switched over. Please, can I get some help here?
[00:55] <tsimonq2> Whatever it is, it's causing packages to exist which should exist in the dailies, e.g.. in the case of xfsprogs not coming in at all.
[00:56] <tsimonq2> (er, my wording is off, it is causing packages to exist in a case where this is occurong)
[00:56] <tsimonq2> *occurring
[01:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: docker.io (cosmic-proposed/universe) [17.12.1-0ubuntu6 => 18.06.1-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[01:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted docker.io [source] (cosmic-proposed) [18.06.1-0ubuntu1]
[02:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-builder (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.30.0-1ubuntu1 => 3.30.1-2ubuntu1] (desktop-extra)
[03:52] <slangasek> tsimonq2: tasksel uploaded
[03:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tasksel (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.34ubuntu11 => 3.34ubuntu12] (core)
[04:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected liblivemedia [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [2018.09.18-1]
[04:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gvfs [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.38.0-2ubuntu2]
[04:10] <tsimonq2> slangasek: many thanks
[04:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected gnome-builder [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1ubuntu1]
[04:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cinder [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2:13.0.0-0ubuntu3]
[04:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted neutron [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2:13.0.0-0ubuntu4]
[04:22] <jbicha> slangasek: new gnome-builder is going to fail its build tests on i386 so I don't know, maybe you want to reject it too
[05:16] <slangasek> jbicha: well, if a fixed upload was imminent I might; but the other reject was simply because it was superseded before it made it through the queue
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-builder [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-2ubuntu1]
[05:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (xenial-proposed/main) [2.408.36 => 2.408.37] (desktop-core)
[07:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apturl (bionic-proposed/main) [0.5.2ubuntu14.1 => 0.5.2ubuntu14.2] (ubuntu-desktop)
[07:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mir (cosmic-proposed/main) [0.32.1-0ubuntu1 => 1.0.0-0ubuntu1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[07:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: colord (cosmic-release/main) [1.3.3-2build1 => 1.4.3-3] (core) (sync)
[07:59] <doko> xnox: looks like all the openssl related autopkg tests need a retrigger against all-proposed
[08:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ukui-control-center (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.1.5-0ubuntu1 => 1.1.6-0ubuntu1] (ubuntukylin)
[08:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pylint (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.9.2-1 => 2.1.1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pylint [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [2.1.1-1]
[08:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mir [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.0.0-0ubuntu1]
[08:21] <doko> Laney: http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/c/cross-toolchain-base/cosmic/amd64  any idea why it run under three hours in some cases, and above 12 hours in others?
[08:23] <Laney> doko: not really, are you sure it's not a bug in the package itself that it sometimes gets into a bad state?
[08:23] <Laney> if you look at the "--security-groups" value at the top of each log you can see which cloud it ran on, maybe there's a correlation there
[08:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ukui-indicators (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.1.1-0ubuntu1 => 1.1.2-0ubuntu1] (ubuntukylin)
[08:24] <doko> I wouldn't know why. it's just a rebuild for one cross toolchain
[08:26] <Laney> and I guess maybe look at what happens in the logs differently between the good and bad cases
[08:26] <Laney> might give us some hints
[08:35] <doko> no, both lcy and lgw involved in both short and long builds
[08:35] <doko> I could add some timestamps in the build log to see if a particular package just builds slowly
[09:16] <xnox> doko, whilst it looks like python3.6 and 3.7 will be fine, i don't think retries will help in 2.7 case =( https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zz6dm5Nj9P/
[09:21] <doko> xnox: will update to the branch later today. there are some new openssl related changes
[09:22] <doko> fyi, ruby2.5 ftbfs on amd64
[09:22] <xnox> doko, well, it doesn't =)
[09:22] <xnox> doko, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ruby2.5/+bug/1794059 after 4 retries it built....
[09:23] <xnox> affects ruby2.5 too
[09:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oem [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1020.23]
[10:00] <cascardo> we are also seeing lots of timeouts on ADT, and that's preventing our latest cosmic kernel to migrate
[10:46] <xnox> doko, right, and i think i want python3.6 update too, the stuff that uses SSL_CTX_set_post_handshake_auth@OPENSSL_1_1_1 1.1.1 symbol. I see patches for that in master, 3.7 and 3.6. But not 2.7 =( https://bugs.python.org/issue34670
[10:47] <xnox> and that makes the python gain a >= 1.1.1 dep too
[10:48] <tdaitx> need an archive admin to remove gradle-debian-helper 2.0.1 from -proposed, it's blocking groovy and I actually have a merge request for gradle 2.0.1ubuntu1 (LP: #1794122) but groovy needs to go first
[10:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: packagekit (cosmic-proposed/main) [1.1.10-1ubuntu5 => 1.1.10-1ubuntu6] (desktop-core)
[10:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: systemd (cosmic-proposed/main) [239-7ubuntu8 => 239-7ubuntu9] (core)
[11:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: networkd-dispatcher (cosmic-proposed/main) [1.7-0ubuntu6 => 1.7-0ubuntu7] (core)
[11:29] <fossfreedom_> Quick question for the 18.10 iso's  - at the end of the install I see "Please remove the installation medium, then reboot" - in 18.04 you also were advised to press enter to reboot.  Is this a deliberate change?  Just wondering if the QA tracker scripts needs updating
[11:31] <doko> RAOF: yaml-cpp needs a MIR
[11:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.4.0-137.163] (core, kernel)
[11:46] <xnox> fossfreedom_, there are two messages.
[11:47] <xnox> fossfreedom_, the message you see - means that plymouth has failed on your system.
[11:47] <xnox> fossfreedom_, we added this one as a fallback, when the other one does not work.
[11:47] <fossfreedom_> ah - makes more sense
[11:47] <xnox> fossfreedom_, previously people saw black screen or corrupted screen and complained that "no message appeared"
[11:47] <xnox> fossfreedom_, this is now "fixed"
[11:49] <maltris> Cheers! I am interested in when this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1789653 gets merged into xenial-updates? Verification seems to be there. Is there anything missing I can contribute?
[11:49] <fossfreedom_> xnox: should I raise an issue on maybe plymouth - or is this being tracked?
[12:00] <xnox> fossfreedom_, no, there is no issue. and everything is working as expected.
[12:01] <xnox> fossfreedom_, we had a laptop during last release sprint which would fail to show shutdown splash half of the time; hence we added this extra message - meaning a user gets a message with an instruction always now.
[12:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3.6 (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.6.6-4build1 => 3.6.6-4ubuntu1] (core)
[12:06] <fossfreedom_> xnox: cheers
[12:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-usage (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.28.0-2 => 3.30.0-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pipewire (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.2.3-1 => 0.2.3-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-usage [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.0-1]
[12:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pipewire [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [0.2.3-3]
[12:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock (cosmic-proposed/universe) [48-1 => 48-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[12:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-shell-extension-workspaces-to-dock [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [48-2]
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted os-autoinst [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed) [4.5.1527308405.8b586d5-1]
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted os-autoinst [s390x] (cosmic-proposed) [4.5.1527308405.8b586d5-1]
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3.6 [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.6.6-4ubuntu1]
[12:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-bep-go-tocss [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [0.5.0-1]
[12:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python2.7 (cosmic-proposed/main) [2.7.15-4ubuntu2 => 2.7.15-4ubuntu3] (core)
[12:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: udisks2 (cosmic-proposed/main) [2.7.6-3ubuntu2 => 2.7.6-3ubuntu3] (desktop-core, ubuntu-server)
[12:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python2.7 [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.7.15-4ubuntu3]
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-indicator-applet (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-1 => 1.20.1-2ubuntu0] (ubuntu-mate)
[12:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3.7 (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.7.0-7 => 3.7.0-7ubuntu1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[12:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3.7 [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.7.0-7ubuntu1]
[12:35] <mitya57> Wimpress: ^^ 1.20.1-2ubuntu0 is a semantically invalid version number, you probably meant 1.20.1-1ubuntu1
[12:36] <Wimpress> mitya57: Can you reject it?
[12:40] <Wimpress> xnox: Please can you reject mate-indicator-applet 1.20.1-2ubuntu0 and I'll reupload with the correct version.
[12:41]  * mitya57 can’t reject it, just noticed it in the log
[12:42] <xnox> Wimpress, no i cannot reject that either, you need an archive admin.
[12:43] <xnox> !archive-admin please remove.... oh wait there is not archive-admin highligh =)
[12:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: open-vm-tools (cosmic-proposed/main) [2:10.3.0-0ubuntu2 => 2:10.3.0-0ubuntu3] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[12:45] <cpaelzer> ah right that is unapproved now due to the freeze
[12:52] <Wimpress> I need an update mate-indicator-applet in cosmic. It fixes a serious issue.
[12:53] <Wimpress> Happy to reload with a correct version for the deb if an admin can reject the recent upload.
[13:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-desktop (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-2ubuntu1 => 1.20.3-2] (ubuntu-mate, ubuntukylin, xubuntu) (sync)
[13:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: marco (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-2ubuntu1 => 1.20.2-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-panel (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-3ubuntu1 => 1.20.3-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-backgrounds (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.0-0ubuntu1 => 1.20.0-2] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-themes (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.22.16-4ubuntu1 => 3.22.18-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gcc-6-cross-ports (cosmic-proposed/universe) [28ubuntu4 => 28ubuntu5] (no packageset)
[13:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-control-center (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.2-2ubuntu1 => 1.20.3-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gcc-6-cross-ports [source] (cosmic-proposed) [28ubuntu5]
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-power-manager (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-2ubuntu1 => 1.20.2-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: atril (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-2ubuntu2 => 1.20.2-1] (ubuntu-mate, ubuntukylin, xubuntu) (sync)
[13:22] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: eom (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.0-2ubuntu1 => 1.20.1-1] (ubuntu-mate, ubuntukylin) (sync)
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-utils (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.0-0ubuntu1 => 1.20.1-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pluma (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-3ubuntu1 => 1.20.2-1] (ubuntu-mate, ubuntukylin) (sync)
[13:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-screensaver (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-1 => 1.20.2-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[13:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: strongswan (cosmic-proposed/main) [5.6.3-1ubuntu1 => 5.6.3-1ubuntu2] (ubuntu-server)
[13:46] <Wimpress> Laney: You are an archive admin, right?
[13:46] <Laney> no
[13:46] <Wimpress> #sadface
[13:46] <Laney> tell me about it
[13:47] <Wimpress> I have a face. It looks sad.
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: networkd-dispatcher (cosmic-proposed/main) [1.7-0ubuntu6 => 1.7-0ubuntu8] (core)
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nginx (cosmic-proposed/main) [1.15.3-0ubuntu1 => 1.15.4-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[13:49] <Wimpress> didrocks You are an archive admin, right?
[13:50] <teward> if someone could Approve the NGINX upload to proposed, that'd be great, it got an FFe approval from sil2100 in the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nginx/+bug/1794321
[13:50] <apw> Wimpress, you are looking fora  reject ?
[13:51] <Wimpress> apw: Yes please. Could you reject mate-indicator-applet 1.20.1-2ubuntu0.
[13:51] <Wimpress> And I'll upload again with the correct deb version.
[13:51] <cyphermox> could someone in the SRU team please review netplan.io and ledmon in the bionic unapproved queue?
[13:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected mate-indicator-applet [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.1-2ubuntu0]
[13:54] <Wimpress> apw: Thank you.
[13:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: amavisd-new (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:2.11.0-1ubuntu1 => 1:2.11.0-1ubuntu2] (ubuntu-server)
[13:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-indicator-applet (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.20.1-1 => 1.20.1-1ubuntu1] (ubuntu-mate)
[14:01] <Wimpress> cyphermox: Please could you accept mate-indicator-applet 1.20.1-1ubuntu1?
[14:01] <Wimpress> It include a critical fix for Ubuntu MATE 18.10. For which I'll need to respin the iso.
[14:02] <cyphermox> Wimpress: sorry, I don't have that kind of access
[14:03] <Wimpress> cyphermox: OK. Can you suggest someone I can seek assistance from?
[14:04] <cyphermox> you need someone in the release team, if you say it's a critical fix (and it certainly sounds plausible given it's mate-indicator-applet), then it should be fine to land
[14:04] <cyphermox> depends who's on
[14:05] <jbicha> please accept tasksel/cosmic since it tries to fix an important issue for Lubuntu
[14:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mate-dock-applet (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.86-2 => 0.87-1] (ubuntu-mate) (sync)
[14:06] <apw> Wimpress, i can have a look at that
[14:06] <jbicha> I don't know if it's worth respinning everything just for that but at least it can be ready if we do need a respin
[14:06] <Wimpress> apw: Thank you!
[14:06] <cyphermox> jbicha: at least it will be available, doesn't necessarily require a respin
[14:07] <apw> Wimpress, if i read this right the existing package is utterly broken ... right ?
[14:08] <jbicha> oh I see, tasksel isn't seeded on the desktop images
[14:08] <cyphermox> jbicha: well, it's a bit more complicated than that, but yeah ;)
[14:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-indicator-applet [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.1-1ubuntu1]
[14:11] <teward> apw: any chance while you're in there that you can do an accept on nginx/cosmic since it already got its FFe approval?
[14:11] <Wimpress> apw: Thanks
[14:11] <teward> if not, that's fine just thought I'd ask :)
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unity (cosmic-proposed/universe) [7.5.0+18.10.20180827-0ubuntu1 => 7.5.0+18.10.20180926.2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset) (sync)
[14:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unity [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [7.5.0+18.10.20180926.2-0ubuntu1]
[14:18] <apw> teward, normally that would be a slam dunk i am sure, but we are in beta-freeze through thursday
[14:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[14:44] <infinity> jbicha: tasksel isn't even on (most) media.
[14:44] <infinity> jbicha: Oh, you got there.
[14:52] <infinity> tsimonq2: From your (not entirely clear) description of your problem, I'm not sure how you think tasksel could relate at all, since it's not involved in either the building or installation of desktop dailies.
[14:53] <teward> apw: so then I have to wait to Thursday though nginx isn't on the seeds that I'm aware of?
[14:53] <infinity> teward: It's seeded in server.
[14:53] <teward> huh that must be a recent change
[14:53] <teward> infinity: missed that, but i see it now
[14:53] <teward> thanks i'll wait
[14:53] <apw> right, would have auto-accepted if it wasn't seeded
[14:55] <teward> infinity: apw: none of these issues it's fixing are major enough to break beta freeze, however after beta freeze if we could get the fixes in that'd be great
[14:56] <teward> (I missed the beta freeze announcement whoops?:)
[14:56] <infinity> teward: Yeah, it'll get in.
[14:56] <teward> +1 thanks.  (I'll have to see when it was added to the seeds...)
[14:56] <teward> (since apparently I wasn't aware of that or missed it (or forgot because I"m overworked))
[14:59] <tjaalton> infinity: mesa on the queue fixes virtualbox guest not booting up properly, would be nice to have that in the beta if possible
[15:00] <infinity> tjaalton: That means respinning literally every image.
[15:00] <infinity> tjaalton: If it's just virtualbox, my carefactor is low.
[15:00] <tjaalton> ok
[15:00] <jibel> infinity, desktop team carefactor is rather high
[15:02] <infinity> jibel: Is this the bug you filed?  (which was qemu, not vbox...)
[15:02] <jibel> infinity, it's bug 1792932
[15:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-builder (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.30.1-2ubuntu1 => 3.30.1-2ubuntu2] (desktop-extra)
[15:04] <infinity> And a lovely 3.4MB diff.
[15:07] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, if this can make you feel better, mesa in the queue switches to llvm-7, so llvm-6 can go in universe from main
[15:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mesa [source] (cosmic-proposed) [18.2.1-1ubuntu1]
[15:07] <infinity> LocutusOfBorg: I know.
[15:07] <LocutusOfBorg> does it make you feel better? :)
[15:08] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks <3
[15:08]  * LocutusOfBorg crosses  fingers
[15:08] <tjaalton> once it's built it'll end up in NEW because of libd3dadapter*
[15:08] <tjaalton> and yeah thanks
[15:09] <tjaalton> also, xorg-lts-transitionals would allow x-x-v-amdgpu to migrate
[15:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xorg-lts-transitional [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3:14.4]
[15:17] <LocutusOfBorg> infinity, is it possible to see ldc migrate?
[15:18] <LocutusOfBorg> it should need libundead removal on armhf (no reverse deps, it has been broken since forever)
[15:18] <LocutusOfBorg> and sambamba kick out from release
[15:18] <LocutusOfBorg> this release has full arm64 working support
[15:18] <LocutusOfBorg> while armhf is a no-go (and it has never been working, since no rdep has been working, or compiling test code)
[15:22] <willcooke> infinity, the problem we have is that a lot of beta testers will do their testing on Virtualbox and if that's broken out of the box, that's going to affect the reach of our testing.  We can make sure the iso tests are back to the state they are in now a few hours after a new image
[15:22] <tjaalton> willcooke: accepted already ;)
[15:22]  * willcooke winds his neck in
[15:22] <willcooke> thank you very much
[15:23] <infinity> tjaalton: Accepted to -proposed, not migrated.
[15:23] <infinity> willcooke: So, the concern with migrating it is that it's on *every* image, not just Ubuntu.
[15:23] <tjaalton> infinity: you mean -amdgpu?
[15:23] <tjaalton> oh
[15:23] <infinity> willcooke: So, do you have people willing to help out re-testing flavours if we let it migrate and respin the world later today?
[15:23] <willcooke> infinity, I personally sign up to iso test every image
[15:23] <tjaalton> right, nothing has migrated yet
[15:24] <willcooke> infinity, yeah I can get that sorted
[15:24] <infinity> willcooke: In that case, I'll unblock it if/when it passes britney/adt testing.
[15:24] <willcooke> infinity, thank you
[15:24]  * willcooke readies a whole load of VMs
[15:24] <infinity> willcooke, jibel: Did anyone make headway on the "gdm no come up" bug?
[15:25] <infinity> If we're respinnig the world, that would be nice to nail down too.
[15:25] <willcooke> jibel is looking at that one now I think
[15:26] <jibel> infinity, I'm the only who reproduce this bug for the moment, so less a priority until its understood
[15:27] <infinity> jibel: Oh, so maybe we just need to disable the bit that turns on the webcam and refuses to boot if it sees you?
[15:29] <jibel> infinity, yeah or I should try showing your face to check if it boots
[15:30] <sil2100> jibel: were you testing that on real hardware or kvm?
[15:30] <infinity> kvm.
[15:30]  * sil2100 tries
[15:30] <infinity> At least, the log he posted is very qemu.
[15:30] <infinity> It was also on an Opteron, which may or may not relate.
[15:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: mesa [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [18.2.1-1ubuntu1] (core, xorg)
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[15:51] <Wimpress> infinity: I'm waiting on mate-indicator-applet to promote from proposed. It fixes a serious issue in Ubuntu MATE 18.10
[15:51] <Wimpress> I see the arm builders are delayed.
[15:52] <Wimpress> Which is why mate-indicator-applet is not promoting from proposed.
[15:59] <infinity> Wimpress: Scored up.
[16:02] <cjwatson> ARM build queues should clear shortly.
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[16:08] <tjaalton> qemu worked fine here fwiw, also with new mesa
[16:08] <cjwatson> (Or maybe not.  Investigating with IS.)
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[16:09] <sil2100> jibel: huh, I think I reproduced your issue on my kvm
[16:10] <sil2100> jibel: first boot after installation, saw plymouth loading, then it turned into a black screen with the console cursor blinking on top and nothing
[16:10] <sil2100> jibel: it's been like this since 2 minutes already
[16:10] <infinity> sil2100: That's definitely his bug.
[16:10] <Wimpress> infinity: Cheers
[16:11] <infinity> willcooke: Is that gdm3 upload suspected to address the issue, or just a random hail mary "well, maybe a new upstream?"
[16:11] <infinity> Or just someone staging a post-beta merge.
[16:11] <infinity> Wimpress: Not that scoring up will do any good until scalingstack is picked up off the floor.
[16:12] <Laney> The last one.
[16:12] <infinity> Laney: Kay.
[16:12] <Laney> It does have some fixes that might affect this bug, but until someone's tested that, I wouldn't apply any particular urgency to it.
[16:13] <infinity> Gah.  Yanking on the little pull-tab to un-wax my Babybel succeeded in nothing except to pull the string out.  Now my cheese is stuck forever in a little wax prison.
[16:13] <infinity> THIS IS RELEASE CRITICAL.
[16:13] <infinity> SOMEONE SAVE MY CHEESE.
[16:14]  * Wimpress moves infinity's cheese
[16:15] <infinity> Nevermind, crisis averted.  I remembered that knives exist.
[16:15] <willcooke> That was a close one
[16:16] <sil2100> phew
[16:16] <willcooke> infinity, I've let the flavours know what's going on.
[16:16] <teward> you actually made me laugh today, infinity, thanks for that xD  (I needed something to cheer me up it's a dreary day here)
[16:17] <sil2100> ...cheese flavours?
[16:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [3.13.0-160.210]
[16:21] <infinity> teward: I'm glad my personal breakfast anguish could bring you joy.
[16:22] <sil2100> It was no laughing matter, the release was at risk here
[16:22] <infinity> Well, the release of my cheese, at any rate.
[16:22] <sil2100> A release is a release
[16:23] <sil2100> !
[16:23] <sil2100> jibel: hm, gdm doesn't come up for me at all, even after 15 minutes
[16:23] <teward> infinity: sorry, it doesn't take much to amuse me on a crazy dark and dreary day xD
[16:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntustudio-meta (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.181 => 0.182] (ubuntustudio)
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[16:39] <cjwatson> scalingstack is better now
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[16:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted androguard [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.2.1-1]
[16:43] <willcooke> infinity, Do you know of any other fixes that might go in for the same respin?  The flavours are planning who to get to do the testing
[16:43] <willcooke> also, any ideas when the images will pop out?
[16:44] <infinity> willcooke: I refreshed a couple of stale metas, but the only big thing will be mesa, I think.
[16:44] <willcooke> infinity, got it thanks
[16:44] <infinity> willcooke: Images won't be for a long while.  mesa's got a lot of testing it needs to pass.
[16:44] <flocculant> willcooke: bit early for 'are we there yet' :p
[16:44] <infinity> willcooke: And it still needs to build on arm*, due to the above scalingstack oops.
[16:44] <flocculant> infinity: thanks :)
[16:44] <willcooke> I need to know if I can start on my beer before or after testing
[16:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zapping (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.10~cvs6-13 => 0.10~cvs6-14] (no packageset) (sync)
[16:45] <infinity> willcooke: It's never the wrong time for beer.
[16:45] <willcooke> Sounds like tomorrow morning my time might be good enough
[16:45] <willcooke> for testing, not beer
[16:45] <infinity> What did I just say?
[16:45] <flocculant> morning beer is good :p
[16:45] <teward> infinity: by extension, then, it's never the wrong time for booze.  *takes a swig from the flask he has*
[16:45]  * willcooke makes plans for the release sprint 
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[16:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted developers-reference [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.4.21]
[16:52] <infinity> wxl: Fixed your live-common seed issue.
[16:52] <infinity> wxl: (See the last commit on the lubuntu seeds)
[17:14] <wxl> infinity: you are the man. in return, i've concocted a game plan to get the shortlist of TB candidates.
[17:20] <infinity> wxl: Does it involve following Mark from country to country and poking him every 5 minutes?
[17:32] <wxl> infinity: not quite. but almost.
[17:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1021.22~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[17:57] <wxl> jbicha: you did a test on the lubuntu live image and included bug 1794440 in your report but 18.10 doesn't have lxterminal
[17:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1025.26~16.04.1] (kernel)
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[18:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pylama [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [7.4.3-2]
[18:41] <wxl> jbicha: i'm just going to delete your result.
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[19:14] <jbicha> wxl: sorry about that, does Lubuntu have someone that could look at that issue though?
[19:14] <wxl> jbicha: for 18.10 we're not really supporting LXDE.
[19:15] <wxl> get the clone link from https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-artwork/
[19:16] <wxl> this one doesn't follow the norm
[19:16] <jbicha> wxl: does that mean I can sync over https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxterminal/0.3.1-2ubuntu1 ?
[19:16] <jbicha> (meaning can I drop that change?)
[19:16] <wxl> jbicha: as i said, we're not really supporting it, so unless someone is planning on backporting it for bionic or before, we're kind of out of the loop
[19:17] <wxl> jbicha: that said, i'd put the decision into the hands of ubuntu devs as a whole. my 2¢ is that it seems reasonable
[19:17] <infinity> wxl: I'd say that, as part of dropping support going forward for LXDE, it would be good to push any useful deltas to Debian and sync over the Ubuntu packages, so you can wash your hands of it.
[19:17] <jbicha> done :)
[19:18] <infinity> wxl: Just leaving delta cruft around unmaintained isn't helpful.
[19:18] <wxl> ^^ ahem @tsimonq2
[19:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxterminal (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.3.1-2ubuntu2 => 0.3.2-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[19:19]  * tsimonq2 reads scrollback
[19:19] <jbicha> context was bug 1794440
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu8.5]
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted lxterminal [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [0.3.2-1]
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu8.5]
[19:23] <tsimonq2> infinity, jbicha: Lubuntu as a flavor team no longer cares about LXDE (and thus, LXTerminal) at all in Cosmic+ with the exception of following best practice in making sure fixes are in devel before SRUing them to releases we support. So please use your best judgment as Ubuntu Developers, but it's also "not our problem" anymore (specifically) unless it's also an SRU-justifiable problem in the
[19:23] <tsimonq2> stable release.
[19:24] <tsimonq2> tl;dr, JFDI.
[19:24] <infinity> tsimonq2: Leaving a bunch of deltas around and declaring "not our problem" is pretty hostile behaviour.
[19:24] <wxl> tsimonq2: i think what i'm reading from infinity is that we go through all the LXDE packages and and push any Ubuntu deltas to Debian in the effort of cleaning up our mess
[19:24] <infinity> tsimonq2: That's what I was driving at above.  If you want to walk away from a set of packages, please leave them in a state where others don't have to run around trying to figure out how to unstick them.
[19:25] <infinity> (no automated process will do those merges, after all)
[19:26] <tsimonq2> infinity: Let me clarify; maintainance of the packages in Universe in general is no longer our problem as a team. If there's some stuff we didn't clean up, please do ping me about it, but if you have clear justification, go ahead. I guess I haven't looked through the deltas we have left behind but if I recall we're talking single digits, if that.
[19:26] <tsimonq2> wxl: Works for me.
[19:26] <infinity> tsimonq2: Sure, I haven't done an audit, this just came up because of lxterminal.  If it's single-digits, I'd love the digit to be 0. ;)
[19:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1021.22] (no packageset)
[19:27] <tsimonq2> Apologies, I have a bit of a spaghetti brain right now, what wxl says is what I agree with. Perhaps wxl can follow up with LStranger in Debian?
[19:27] <tsimonq2> I mean no hostility. :)
[19:27] <tsimonq2> infinity: But yes, we are agreed there.
[19:28] <wxl> suffice it to say we'll put it on the TODO list but i think we're up against the wall right now. so until cosmic is out, i think it would be best to just ask if there are questions. after that we can do a more formal and complete audit.
[19:28] <wxl> does that work, infinity ?
[19:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1021.22]
[19:28] <tsimonq2> That.
[19:28] <infinity> wxl: Yeah, my carefactor for deltas in cosmic is low, since we're past FF anyway, it's going forward, I don't want some old-lubuntu package to go unmerged for 2 years because "no one cares anymore".  Resolving deltas and syncing makes that go away.
[19:29] <wxl> yeah, no. we don't want to roll that way at all, either.
[19:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-lts-xenial [amd64] (trusty-proposed) [4.4.0-137.163~14.04.1]
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[20:08] <infinity> jbicha: Still around?
[20:08] <jbicha> yes
[20:10] <infinity> jbicha: You're TIL on pygobject it seems.  What's the point in python3-gi-cairo if python3-gi depends on cairo? :P
[20:11] <infinity> jbicha: (Or, put another way, I think maybe you messed up, because python3-gi now depends on cairo when it didn't used to, pulling a bunch of X stuff into the base system)
[20:12] <infinity> jbicha: I think that's responsible for the bulk of this: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/priority-mismatches.txt
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[20:41] <jbicha> well I didn't cause it but I'm still investigating. One interesting change in 3.29 was that we switched to pybuild
[20:41] <jbicha> the new dep showed up in 3.29.2 but it took a while for that to migrate out of -proposed
[20:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (xenial-proposed) [2.408.37]
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[21:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-1.10 (bionic-proposed/main) [1.10.1-1ubuntu2 => 1.10.4-2ubuntu1~18.04.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[21:21] <mwhudson> [1.10-1ubuntu1~16.04.1 => 1.10.4-2ubuntu1~16.04.1 ??
[21:21] <mwhudson> oh backports
[21:39] <valorie> so is the respin happening?
[21:39] <infinity> valorie: Waiting on mesa autopkgtests.
[21:39] <valorie> ok
[21:40] <valorie> I guess there is always tonight to run tests
[21:40] <acheronuk> valorie: and I can do some in the morning UK time
[21:40] <infinity> Though I may short circuit that soon if the tests look plausibly okay on enough arches.
[21:40] <wxl> this isn't the "vbox" respin, right?
[21:40] <infinity> wxl: It is.
[21:40] <wxl> huh. just booted in vbox.
[21:41] <infinity> You're clearly special.
[21:41] <acheronuk> valorie: oh, autotests :D
[21:41] <wxl> clearly :)
[21:41] <valorie> we <3 autotests
[21:41] <valorie> right?
[21:41] <acheronuk> when they pass and are quick!
[21:41] <valorie> amen to that
[21:45] <infinity> Not unlike kidney stones.
[21:46] <infinity> That said, it probably won't surprise anyone that mesa has a few rdeps, and I think it's important they actually get tested.
[21:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: celery (cosmic-proposed/universe) [4.2.1-0ubuntu3 => 4.2.1-1fakesync1] (no packageset)
[21:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted celery [source] (cosmic-proposed) [4.2.1-1fakesync1]
[22:22] <wxl> oh now i get it the "vbox bug" is a ubiquity-related bug it seems. no problem with calamares.
[22:50] <RAOF> doko: Urgh, I thought I picked a yaml library already in main. Ok, filing.
[22:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dokuwiki (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.0.20180422.a-1 => 0.0.20180422.a-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dokuwiki [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [0.0.20180422.a-2]