[01:26] <MannyLNJ> How do I run tcpdump without being root on Ubuntu 16.04?
[01:32] <EriC^> MannyLNJ: look into netcap
[01:32] <CarlFK> How do I set "Always On Top"  in this file:    https://salsa.debian.org/debconf-video-team/ansible/blob/master/roles/voctomix/templates/videoteam-cutlist.desktop.j2  [Desktop Entry]
[01:32] <MannyLNJ> EriC^, thank you
[01:33] <EriC^> MannyLNJ: no problem
[01:34] <MannyLNJ> EriC^, I can use that to see what machines are using DNS lookups (port 53)
[01:49] <EriC^> MannyLNJ: see the answer here https://askubuntu.com/questions/530920/tcpdump-permissions-problem
[01:51] <MannyLNJ> EriC^, I did see that and I tried the first answer and it didn't solve it or do I need to log out aand back in after i added myself to the new group
[01:55] <MannyLNJ> EriC^, and that was my issue. I didn't log out so the groups did not update
[02:07] <MannyLNJ> Now for the "fun" part re-installing Ubuntu onto my other drive and then copying over my dnsmasq setup so my network comes back up. Since this system is my DNS and DHCP server the rest of my network will be down too
[02:52] <NewToLubuntu> I noticed in lubuntu I am able to drag the taskbar icons to rearrange their position
[02:52] <NewToLubuntu> does anyone know a way to unmerge multiples from the same program?
[02:53] <NewToLubuntu> for example to have separate icons for the pidgin buddy list and a chatroom?
[02:58] <kumool> latest version broke pithos, i've tried reinstalling and nothing
[02:58] <kumool> NewToLubuntu, ask in #lxde
[03:54] <antonm> hey everyone
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> good morning antonm
[03:58] <antonm> good morning
[03:58] <antonm> it's midnight for me
[03:59] <antonm> fun
[03:59]  * antonm is away
[03:59] <antonm> it's more 4:59-ish actually
[03:59] <antonm> gn
[04:00] <antonm> is sleep necessary
[04:00] <MannyLNJ> Help please. I am trying to install 16.04 on /sda1 and Grub keeps failing. I am booted into the live os now
[04:00] <antonm> back to apt update
[04:01] <antonm> 16.04?
[04:02] <antonm> MannyLNJ: what error is grub showing?
[04:03] <MannyLNJ> antonm, It's not. The installer said there was a problem installing Grub
[04:03] <MannyLNJ> I can't get more info because the installer crashed and I can't restart it
[04:03] <antonm> oh
[04:04] <antonm> there should be a log file for the installer
[04:04] <MannyLNJ> antonm, where would I find the log file?
[04:05] <antonm> try /var/log/installer
[04:05] <antonm> that's where it was when I installed Ubuntu
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> MannyLNJ: did you disable secureboot and fastboot?
[04:06] <MannyLNJ> lotuspsychje, secureboot is disabled. I'm not sure about fastboot
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> MannyLNJ: are you manually partitioning or using the partition layout ubuntu chosen?
[04:08] <MannyLNJ> lotuspsychje, Manually because I don't want to erase the other drive.
[04:08] <antonm> does your computer use uefi
[04:09] <MannyLNJ> antonm, I believe it does have uefi
[04:10] <MannyLNJ> What's really more furestrating is I can't even boot the install on the other hard drive so I'm dead in the water
[04:10] <antonm> you'll need a partition for EFI in order for grub to install if uefi with or without secureboot enabled
[04:11] <MannyLNJ> antonm, Can you walk me through making a partition for EFI then I will reboot and try again
[04:13] <antonm> does your computer have an option for bios mode (legacy mode)?
[04:13] <wr> how much space takes the ubuntu server minimal iso?
[04:13] <MannyLNJ> antonm, I believe it did. I will have to reboot to check
[04:13] <wr> sorry, size
[04:14] <antonm> were you trying to install Ubuntu alongside another os?
[04:15] <MannyLNJ> antonm, Yes in a way. I was trying to install Ubuntu onto a second hard drive. The other drive which is much larger will be re-partitioned after I copy over the files I need
[04:15] <MannyLNJ> From the screen I saw at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI it looks like I was booting the Live USB in UEFI mode
[04:16] <antonm> if there's an option to disable uefi and secureboot, you could try disabling them and running the install again like normal
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> wr: try #ubuntu-server mate
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> wr: i bet its not gonna take much space
[04:19] <wr> lotuspsychje, off course, thanks
[04:25] <MannyLNJ> antonm, I think I found a page that can help. I am going to try boot-repair to see if I can get my other install working. I think part of the problem is one of the drives had Windows 8.1 and I didn't format it just erased most of it
[04:28] <antonm> ok
[04:28]  * antonm is now away
[04:36] <MannyLNJ> Ok I just rebooted. I'm in the live USB. I had to use the UFEI option next to it because without it I was dropped to a > prompt
[04:38] <MannyLNJ> On /sda I have /dev/sda3 as a Fat32 patition flagged as Boot then /dev/sfa1 is ext4 then /sda2 is extended with /sda5 in it as swap. Does this look OK partiition wise?
[05:13] <JustAPerson> What processes are vital to rendering the desktop? I'm running BOINC (distributed computing) on 48 of 64 cores (have even set affinity to leave 16 unused) but desktop is really laggy
[05:15] <tachikomas> Hello. Is there any way to encrypt a full disk (system) on a ubuntu 18.04.1 ?
[05:28] <tatertots> JustAPerson: are you chatting from the system right now?
[05:29] <JustAPerson> RoscoePColtrane: yes. Any suggestions?
[05:30] <RoscoePColtrane> JustAPerson: in terminal> sudo apt install inxi
[05:30] <RoscoePColtrane> JustAPerson: let me know when done
[05:31] <JustAPerson> RoscoePColtrane: done, will the default output suffice?
[05:31] <RoscoePColtrane> JustAPerson: no
[05:31] <RoscoePColtrane> JustAPerson: in terminal>   inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:31] <RoscoePColtrane> JustAPerson: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[05:32] <JustAPerson> RoscoePColtrane, http://termbin.com/wrpg
[05:32] <JustAPerson> I've disabled BOINC for the moment, let me know if I should remeasure with it running.
[05:34] <RoscoePColtrane> i wouldn't expect what you describe with renderer: GeForce GTX 770/PCIe/SSE2
[05:35] <RoscoePColtrane> it is the same when booted to a 4.4 kernel?
[05:36] <RoscoePColtrane> JustAPerson: awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|nc termbin.com 9999
[05:36] <RoscoePColtrane> JustAPerson: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[05:37] <JustAPerson> RoscoePColtrane, http://termbin.com/0z06
[05:38] <RoscoePColtrane> excuse me..is it the same booted to 4.13
[05:38] <RoscoePColtrane> ?
[05:39] <JustAPerson> Haven't tried yet. That's on an old HDD I migrated. I will try on a different kernel some time tomorrow. Curious, why does 4.4 stand out to you?
[05:40] <RoscoePColtrane> i said 4.4 off the top of my head thinking of ubuntu 16.x
[05:41] <RoscoePColtrane> but the earliest you have is 4.13,
[05:41] <RoscoePColtrane> this question is to determine if what you observe is only occurring on your current 4.15.0-34
[05:42] <JustAPerson> Ahh okay. I have to go for tonight but I will give that a try soon. I've been wanting to learn how to compile my own kernel anyway so maybe a good chance to try that as well.
[05:43] <JustAPerson> Thanks for the help!
[05:43] <RoscoePColtrane> no prob
[06:22] <luna> https://www.x.org/wiki/Events/XDC2018/
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> luna: in #ubuntu-discuss please
[06:23] <luna> lotuspsychje: okay
[07:27] <fub> I have a problem with cron which should run every night, but is not. This is my "crontab -e" and also the script which should be executed: http://dpaste.com/19STAYP
[07:27] <fub> When I execute the line in the crontab manually, it works. I can also see the first line of my script output ("Starting ..") in the db-backup.log file, but nothing else
[07:27] <fub> so its not executing completly. How ca nI debug this?
[07:31] <geirha> I suggest you redirect stderr to db-backup.log so you can see the error message there
[07:32] <geirha> My guess is docker-compose is not in cron's PATH. To fix that, set your own PATH at the top of your script
[07:33] <geirha> run ''type -a docker-compose'' to see where it's installed
[07:33] <fub> geirha: I am currently redirecting stderr to stdout, am I not?
[07:33] <fub> I'm using 2>&1
[07:34] <geirha> fub: yes, but in the wrong order
[07:34] <geirha> fub: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/055
[07:35] <fub> geirha: -.- all right, this explains a lot
[07:36] <fub> geirha: thanks for your help!
[07:43] <aLeSD> hi guys
[07:43] <aLeSD> [10366.669336] usb 1-7: USB disconnect, device number 4
[07:43] <aLeSD> I lost my bluetooth device....
[07:43] <aLeSD> keyboard and mouse actually
[07:43] <aLeSD> how could I reinit it ? Just trying to not reboot
[08:14] <nisankh> release ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS , sound output keeps changing to pulseeffect (apps) . looked for possible reason for the issue but what is my conclusion is it is might an ubuntu bug as the pulse module module-switch-on-connect responsible to change immediatly if any bluetooth or USB etc any other hot plugged devices , but i would like to be more sure about this
[08:14] <nisankh> and  the module sees pulseffect(apps) virtual device are real one
[08:20] <qwebirc3386> Hey is there anyone who can help me out with a login problem after installing some nvidia updates from the software/update center?
[08:20] <qwebirc3386> Seems like gnome is crashing everytime I try to log in
[08:49] <Helenah> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 on my clients, however one of them only prints in blue, and the other just prints blank. I can see the print previews are fine, however it's when it's getting send to the printer. I'm using a network printer, and the print server itself prints fine.
[08:50] <Helenah> I'm also using the right driver, I know this because I had to install it, and configure my printer on the server to use the ppd.
[08:59] <gpunk> can you update the machine and resinatll the printer ?
[09:00] <Helenah> gpunk: I tried
[09:00] <Helenah> I'm thinking of downgrading the clients to Ubuntu 16.04
[09:00] <gpunk> what s the model of the printer?
[09:00] <Helenah> Unless someone can help me.
[09:01] <Helenah> Epson XP-342
[09:01] <Helenah> And I set it to use the 340 Series drivers
[09:01] <Helenah> That's XP-340 Series
[09:02] <Helenah> gpunk: All the help I can get is appreciated.
[09:03] <gpunk> https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/tutoriel/installer_imprimante_epson
[09:04] <gpunk> this might help you , to install the manufacturer s driver
[09:04] <Helenah> Has things changed in 18.04? My print server previously was on 16.04, then I didn't have one for a while, and now since I set up again on 18.04, this is when the problems started.
[09:05] <Helenah> Though, it's not a server problem.
[09:05] <Helenah> I'll read the guide, thanks.
[09:08] <Helenah> I don't believe that's the issue, unless something has changed in Ubuntu 18.04
[09:08] <gpunk> try to print then from another application
[09:08] <Helenah> I tried Firefox, GIMP and LibreOffice.
[09:09] <gpunk> then it s a driver problem
[09:09] <gpunk> i would really try the manucafturer s driver
[09:09] <Helenah> On client-end?
[09:09] <Helenah> I always use those.
[09:11] <Helenah> From the server, I can print a test page fine, from one client, the prints are blank, and from the other client, the prints come out with no black ink.
[09:11] <Helenah> Sounds like a driver issue, but I thought cups sent the driver over to the client to use?
[09:12] <Helenah> I may not be fully understanding how cups work, however I am trying my best to.
[09:13] <lotuspsychje> !cups | Helenah
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> epson isnt the best printer neither on linux Helenah
[09:14] <Helenah> lotuspsychje: I found they work the best, better than the other brand I used, HP, and I found they are perfect.
[09:15] <Helenah> We must have different experiences. This is the only time I've had issues.
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Helenah: also on 18.04 the ppd should be already active by default
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> Helenah: did you try direct printing from ubuntu, to the epson?
[09:16] <Helenah> How come the guide "NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu" assumes I'm using a GUI?
[09:17] <Helenah> lotuspsychje: The Ubuntu epson driver version is out of date for my printing, only displaying the driver for one Epson XP printer, and plenty of drivers for other Epson range printers.
[09:18] <Helenah> On Ubuntu 16.04, there were no Epson XP ppd's in the Ubuntu repo (If I remembered correctly)
[09:19] <Helenah> Should I be installing the Epson driver onto the clients?
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> Helenah: they changed that, from 17.04 i think, printer drivers should be included by default
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> Helenah: wich ubuntu version on the client?
[09:25] <Helenah> lotuspsychje: 18.04
[09:25] <Helenah> It's two clients.
[09:25] <Helenah> One prints with no black ink, the other prints blank.
[09:28] <Helenah> lotuspsychje: I got the printing blank problem on my print server when I selected an incompatible driver in the past, this is why I suspect a driver issue which is client-side.
[09:28] <Helenah> So do I need to install the drivers on the clients? The Ubuntu ones are out of date.
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Helenah: if you find a bug in ubuntu please file it
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> Helenah: i would not go messing with drivers myself
[09:30] <Helenah> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure if it's even an Ubuntu-specific bug.
[09:30] <Helenah> I don't, I "accidentally" did it.
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Helenah: try testing things irst then
[09:30] <Helenah> I'm going to install the drivers on the client. I'll get back to you guys on whether or not it was a success, or if more needs to be done.
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> kk
[09:40] <Helenah> lotuspsychje: I checked the cups configuration on the client, it is using the XP-340 series driver which is right, I then got cups on the client to send a test page to the printer, which printed fine.
[09:41] <Helenah> Now to check LibreOffice.
[09:41] <Helenah> and GIMP
[09:42] <Helenah> lotuspsychje: Still prints blank.
[09:46] <ledeni> Helenah: did you install 'printer-driver-escpr' package
[09:47] <Helenah> ledeni: I installed from the Epson website, that package doesn't have the ppd for my printer.
[09:47] <XB23> Hi all, running on 16.04. For some reason my DNS will not work on my server, connections are fine can connect to things via IP address
[09:47] <XB23> But the server will not resolve hostnames at all
[09:48] <XB23> my resolv.conf has nameserver 8.8.8.8 and nameserver 8.8.4.4
[09:50] <ledeni> Helenah: you need just to install 'cups-ppdc' package
[09:51] <Helenah> hmm
[09:51] <Helenah> ledeni: Why do I change to change ppd's?
[09:52] <Helenah> I can print cups test pages from the clients fine
[09:52] <Helenah> just like printing cups test pages from the server
[09:52] <ledeni> Helenah:  ok
[09:52] <Helenah> It's LibreOffice, GIMP and Firefox that's printing blank
[09:55] <XB23> all hostname resolves come back as connection timed out
[09:56] <blackflow> XB23: can you pastebin the actual commands you tried and their output?
[10:00] <XB23> its just when I sudo the hostname of the server comes back as connection timed out
[10:00] <XB23> not sure what else to try?
[10:01] <doubtful> hi
[10:01] <doubtful> My wifi doesn't detect 5G.
[10:02] <doubtful> What can I do about it?
[10:02] <doubtful> Like on my laptop I can't see 5g band of my router, but my phone and tablet can.
[10:03] <doubtful> running ubuntu 16.04
[10:03] <jcdutton> doubtful, does you laptop support 5G ?
[10:04] <doubtful> jcdutton, I don't know how can I check?
[10:04] <doubtful> https://bpaste.net/show/435946545218 does this help?
[10:04] <amine> hello everyone, how to remove the "Switch to greeter" from the login prompt?
[10:06] <jcdutton> doubtful, looks like the laptop hardware does not support 5G
[10:07] <doubtful> jcdutton, thanks
[10:08] <doubtful> my internet speed changes a lot, it becomes slow suddenly then becomes fast.
[10:09] <doubtful> It is very hard to a video call. I have a very fast connection though.
[10:09] <doubtful> Something in the wifi driver is not correct, any ideas?
[10:10] <blackflow> XB23: for starters, try like I told you to, if you want help. If not, good luck.
[10:33] <XB23> backflow: what commands shall I enter?
[10:38] <alterjsive> did anyone here ever try to setup raid and sed encryption?
[10:44] <Helenah> Is nobody able to help me with my printing issue?
[10:46] <gpunk> Helenah: what drivers are you using ? ubuntu default or manufacturer's ?
[10:50] <Helenah> gpunk: manufacturers
[10:50] <Helenah> Ubuntu drivers don't have the ppd for my printer
[10:53] <blackflow> XB23: which ever commands you entered and got that error. then pastebin the output
[10:54] <blackflow> !paste | XB23
[10:57] <XB23> blackflow: https://pastebin.com/T6jGzYkV
[10:59] <Helenah> gpunk: If I send a print to the client's CUPS server with lpr, a blank page is printed, if I send a CUPS test page to the print server from the client machine, all prints well, same for if I print a test page directly from the print server, all prints well.
[11:01] <blackflow> XB23: you're not outputting the commands you've used. what produced that sudo output?
[11:01] <blackflow> *you're not pasting
[11:01] <kupi> hi
[11:02] <kupi> why is this called openjdk-11-jre https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/openjdk-11-jre ?
[11:02] <kupi> it install openjdk 10.0.3
[11:02] <kupi> *10.0.2
[11:03] <XB23> sudo su: backflow
[11:04] <XB23> https://pastebin.com/mPyn4RyF
[11:06] <blackflow> XB23: which ubuntu is this? is systemd-resolved the active resolver or something else? what's in your /etc/resolv.conf  file?
[11:07] <XB23> https://pastebin.com/B8Tim9yZ
[11:07] <XB23> its 16.04
[11:08] <blackflow> XB23: what's the output of   `nslookup ppa.launchpad.net` ?   You might need to install dnsutils for nslookup, if you don't have it already.
[11:09] <XB23> yep but I cant as I cant resolve dns to install pacakges .. catch 22 lol
[11:09] <blackflow> XB23: try using nameserver 8.8.8.8  only in resolv.conf, comment out the opendns ones
[11:09] <XB23> ok
[11:10] <XB23> nope still no luck, unable to resolve
[11:10] <blackflow> XB23: how is your network set up? with dhcp?
[11:10] <XB23> No its static
[11:10] <blackflow> can you ping 8.8.8.8   ?
[11:11] <blackflow> XB23:    ping -c 3 8.8.8.8
[11:11] <XB23> hmm actually, no i cant
[11:11] <XB23> it wont respond to a ping
[11:11] <blackflow> so you don't have dns issues per se, but networking issues
[11:11] <XB23> Ah ha, its a network problem.  yep 100% packet loss
[11:11] <blackflow> XB23: please pastebin the output of    ip addr     and     ip route
[11:12] <XB23> https://pastebin.com/b9C1P1hy
[11:13] <XB23> Its a server that runs lxc containers .. just fyi hence why the weird networking stack
[11:14] <blackflow> not a single non-rfc1918 address in there. you have no public IPs, unless you're behind NAT
[11:14] <XB23> yes backflow, we are behind a NAT
[11:14] <XB23> i can access other servers from inside the same network
[11:14] <XB23> via ssh command by ip
[11:14] <blackflow> okay, and you can also ping the gateway?
[11:14] <XB23> ill try
[11:15] <blackflow> ping -c3 172.16.0.1
[11:15] <XB23> actually, no
[11:15] <XB23> ahhh
[11:15] <XB23> my gateway is wrong
[11:15] <XB23> that will be the cause
[11:15] <blackflow> mh-hm. :)
[11:16] <gpunk> Helenah:  can you run lpoptions -l ?
[11:17] <XB23> ah damn lost it all together now
[11:17] <XB23> oh no its back
[11:17] <XB23> wweehey dns resolving!
[11:18] <blackflow> :)
[11:18] <XB23> blimey, how has the speed of my whole network just increased
[11:18] <XB23> my entire network has just sped up crazily quicker
[11:20] <XB23> thanks blackflow
[11:20] <XB23> :)
[11:20] <blackflow> XB23: btw, sudo -i    is better than   sudo su
[11:20] <XB23> oh, how so .. not disagreeing just curious?
[11:21] <blackflow> it's native to sudo, doesn't need to invoke 'su' subprocess
[11:21] <JimBuntu> environment
[11:21] <blackflow> and that
[11:21] <XB23> ah
[11:21] <XB23> cheers
[11:22] <Helenah> gpunk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m4gY3F7YBz/
[11:24] <Helenah> XB23: Speaking of networks, mine recently had an upgrade in performance too.
[11:47] <ppf> any idea where the sqlite3 command keeps its history?
[11:47] <Gegsite> hello
[11:48] <Gegsite> I had a problem that in 18.04.1 after suspend the screen wont came back and hanged the system.
[11:48] <Gegsite> I found out that in grub settings if you delete the "splash" it works fine
[11:48] <Gegsite> Suspend is working again.
[11:51] <nisankh> dmesh show firmware related errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XQTZ38RrYH/
[11:55] <ioria> ppf, ~/.sqlite_history   ?
[11:58] <nisankh> as far as i can see from qualcom developer Kalle Valo , in his repsosotry there are available firmware 6 API but if i check the ubuntu launchpad there is not available , and when i cross checked the kernel git commit it sayd it is merged into upstream
[11:59] <nisankh> my error messages https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XQTZ38RrYH/ , other sources https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/ , https://github.com/pmachata/linux-firmware
[12:08] <quxgyver> So
[12:08] <quxgyver> My wifi grinds to a halt when I have BT enabled
[12:08] <quxgyver> what do I do
[12:08] <quxgyver> I actually have to choose between using BT devices and internet
[12:11] <gpunk> did you look at your dmesg ?
[12:11] <quxgyver> I don't know what to look for
[12:11] <leftyfb> quxgyver: what type of device is this on?
[12:12] <ppf> ioria: yea... found that too ;( :(
[12:12] <gpunk> post your dmesg after you enabled bt
[12:12] <leftyfb> quxgyver: by post, gpunk means to pastebin
[12:12] <gpunk> yes
[12:12] <quxgyver> leftyfb: A laptop. Network controller: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 31) and
[12:13] <quxgyver> I can't find any listed BT device tho
[12:13] <leftyfb> it's typically the same device
[12:14] <quxgyver> gpunk / leftyfb: With respect, I'm not that knowledgeable and would rather not pastebin significant amounts of console output without knowing what they are.
[12:14] <quxgyver> But I can look for anything if you tell me to
[12:14] <quxgyver> Yeah I was wondering if it's shared.
[12:14] <leftyfb> quxgyver: there won't be any identifying information in your dmesg. It's all hardware changes/messages
[12:14] <quxgyver> But I mean, they should be able to share the capacity right
[12:14] <gpunk> it s hard to explain, but please trust us, there is nothing personal in dmesg
[12:14] <quxgyver> or maybe the driver can't handle it, idk
[12:15] <gpunk> it s only kernel talking
[12:15] <gpunk> you can read it all and confirm
[12:15] <leftyfb> quxgyver: what version of ubuntu?
[12:16] <quxgyver> leftyfb: 18.04.1 LTS
[12:17] <leftyfb> quxgyver: sudo apt install -y ethtool && sudo ethtool -i <your wireless interface>
[12:17] <quxgyver> Alright. Will this risk killing my network?
[12:17] <leftyfb> quxgyver: this will tell us which driver/firmware is being used
[12:17] <quxgyver> Oh
[12:17] <quxgyver> okay
[12:17] <leftyfb> quxgyver: no, it's only informational
[12:17] <quxgyver> In what way should I identify the wifi interface?
[12:17] <quxgyver> path? some sort of ID?
[12:18] <gpunk> the name that you get with ifconfig i guess
[12:20] <quxgyver> wlpls0?
[12:20] <gpunk> yes
[12:20] <quxgyver> aight
[12:22] <quxgyver> ath10k_pci / 4.15.0-34-generic
[12:22] <quxgyver> :)
[12:23] <leftyfb> found this on a forum. Not sure how valid it is: "This forum is not for ath10k. Also, ath10k_pci isn't compatible with QCA9377."
[12:25] <leftyfb> quxgyver: does /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377 exist?
[12:25] <leftyfb> quxgyver: that's dmesg output would really be helpful. Both right at boot and after enabling BT
[12:25] <quxgyver> Wow that's weird
[12:25] <quxgyver> I wonder how I ended up with that driver then
[12:26] <quxgyver> hm that file doesnt seem to exist
[12:26] <quxgyver> oh no my bad
[12:26] <quxgyver> that folder does exist, sorry
[12:27] <quxgyver> All of these: QCA4019  QCA6174  QCA9377  QCA9887  QCA9888  QCA988X  QCA9984  QCA99X0
[12:27] <zen_coder> I use ubuntu in a VM
[12:27] <zen_coder> GL_VENDOR: VMware, Inc. GL_RENDERER: SVGA3D; build: RELEASE; GL_VERSION: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 18.0.5
[12:27] <ridders> hi guys, I have A ubuntu mate LUKS encrypted HDD Im trying to connect to a Ubuntu computer. When it connects im prompted for the password which I enter, but Im then presented with a message that says the filesystem isnt recognised. Sadly I dont know the filesystem for that HDD, but any ideas what would cause this? Does Mate use a different filesystem ?
[12:27] <zen_coder> does mesa means, I use a software renderer?
[12:27] <quxgyver> Yeah I'll work on that output I guess.
[12:27] <quxgyver> It's weird though, it's sort of working now... I think.
[12:28] <quxgyver> Like there's always been a very clear difference between not having BT enabled and enabling it, so much so that it's impossible that I might've made a judgement error
[12:28] <quxgyver> and it has never worked at all with BT enabled
[12:28] <quxgyver> but now I'm listening to music on the same BT headphones that I've always tested with, and it works fine
[12:28] <quxgyver> so I don't know whether to push this or... leave it be :/
[12:29] <quxgyver> i'll do a speed test, one sec
[12:31] <nb-ben> is there a channel for ubuntu-touch?
[12:31] <quxgyver> Yeah I'm getting only a marginal difference between the linux lappy and other devices now
[12:31] <quxgyver> What would you do? Keep troubleshooting or leave it be?
[12:31] <gpunk> if it is not broken, dont fix it
[12:32] <quxgyver> Alright.
[12:32] <quxgyver> Well, thank you so much for taking the time.
[12:32] <bieb> I have a lenovo m79 desktop. currently has 4gb ram, but that will be upgraded. I have installed a 3tb WD red hard drive. When the install completes and say to remove media and reboot.. I remove DVD, ctrl+alt+del, and I get a bunch of squashfs errors. I have to manually power off the machine and restart. Then I get "no operating system found". I have tried with 2 different install DVDs (1 - 18.04 and 1 18.04.1) I have uefi turned off. If
[12:32] <bieb> I restart with the DVD and select "try Ubuntu" I can see the file system exists that I just attempted to install. Any ideas or things to check next?
[12:32] <quxgyver> Actually I wanna do one last test
[12:33] <nisankh> previous error regarding firmware 6 API resolved using manual downloading the firmware-6.bin from the developer github repo , but now unable to solve this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D97V7pJZcN/ anyone have any idea over this
[12:33] <ioria> ridders, probably you need lvm2, cryptsetup and ecyptfs and your host system
[12:33] <leftyfb> bieb: remove/disable all hard drives other than the one you're installing to. Install to that HDD then reboot. It should work. Then you can work on adding in the other HDD's and setting the appropriate boot order
[12:33] <nisankh> as linux-firmware latest unable to provide the firmware 6 API for ath10k
[12:34] <leftyfb> ridders: if it's LUKS, the partition to mount is in /dev/mapper/
[12:36] <bieb> leftyfb: It is the only HDD in the system. It had a 500gb drive originally, I wanted more space for music and I will be using virtual box with various Windows systems for work. so I picked up the 3tb western digital red drive
[12:37] <ridders> leftyfb: Do you know of a guide I can refer to?
[12:37] <ridders> ioria: Do you know of a guide I can refer to?
[12:37] <leftyfb> ridders: https://linuxconfig.org/basic-guide-to-encrypting-linux-partitions-with-luks   found by googling "ubuntu luks"
[12:38] <ioria> ridders, you install the packages : lvm2, cryptsetup, ecryptfs-utils ;  reboot and reconnect the drive
[12:38] <leftyfb> ioria: cryptsetup should pull in all the needed deps
[12:39] <ioria> leftyfb, nope, i'am afraid 3 different packages
[12:46] <quxgyver> Okay, I ran three tests with music streaming to my headphones (which resulted in 0.56mbit/s, 0.49mbit/s and 0.7mbit/s), three tests with the music stopped but the BT connection still present (which resulted in 8.02mbit/s, 4.25mbit/s and 2.35mbit/s) and three tests with BT completely shut off on the PC (which resulted in 7.13mbit/s, 8.84mbit/s and 6.73mbit/s). I even went back and did an additional round of tests
[12:46] <quxgyver> after all of these with music once again streaming to a BT headset, and I just can't seem to break 1mbit/s
[12:47] <quxgyver> so leftyfb / gpunk if you're up for it I'd like to proceed
[12:47] <quxgyver> if you have time
[12:48] <gpunk> proceed with what?
[12:51] <quxgyver> I checked that /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA9377 exists, and it did. Was I supposed to do something with this?
[12:51] <quxgyver> or do some additional troubleshooting with that
[12:51] <quxgyver> gpunk: Oh well I sort of interrupted you two
[12:52] <quxgyver> I was just wondering if you had anything else that you were gonna ask
[12:52] <quxgyver> if I hadn't exclaimed that the problem resolved itself
[12:52] <gpunk> well ... besides of seeing your dmesg we cant do much really
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> quxgyver: most issues we see here on atheros, are about the atheros firmware version, perhaps try that way for some testing?
[12:59] <durka> I'm having trouble with archive.ubuntu.com. I can see listings (e.g. http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/boost1.58/) but I when I try to download packages I get a timeout or connection reset. Is it me or the server?
[13:00] <durka> Or is there a mirror for archive.ubuntu.com?
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> durka: for known issues about mirrors you can ask at #ubuntu-mirrors
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> durka: but first, do you have a firewall our router?
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> *or
[13:01] <durka> probably :) I didn't set up this network
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> durka: is it possible you test a direct connection?
[13:01] <durka> but apt-get upgrade got *almost* all the way through, and the fact that I can see the index in a browser weirds me out
[13:01] <durka> direct how?
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> durka: cable right to modem?
[13:02] <durka> I can try
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> durka: also feel free to share the output of: sudo apt update
[13:03] <durka> lotuspsychje: so that's the *other* weird thing
[13:03] <durka> apt update can supposedly access the server fine
[13:03] <durka> I guess because it's only going for the index
[13:03] <durka> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wJ8snScHfX/
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> durka: looks like its updating?
[13:04] <durka> yes but then https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YgjjNWKzS2/
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> !info libboost1.58-dev xenial
[13:06] <durka> you understand my confusion :p
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> im also getting a 404 on it on browser
[13:06] <durka> 404 is a bit different, I get a timeout
[13:08] <rdg> I'm in a standard Ubuntu 18.04 install.. dual monitor.. left monitor landscape and right monitor portrait..  when I ctrl alt up/down to switch workspaces it only moves the left monitor.. is that normal behavior?
[13:09] <pragmaticenigma> rdg it might be... that depends on other setup choices and what display server you are running
[13:11] <rdg> i don't even remember being asked which one to run
[13:12] <rdg> 18.04.1 LTS .. gnome 3.28.2 .. only info i can find
[13:13] <rdg> the portrait monitor also doesn't have the ability to drag a window to the edge and have it automatically fill 50% of the screen
[13:15] <rdg> ps aux shows gdm3/xorg
[13:16] <rdg> not only that.. every time I move windows down a workspace.. and switch workspaces back and forth.. all of the windows end up back on one workspace
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> rdg: is xinearama enabled?
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> *xinerama
[13:20] <rdg> where do I check that
[13:23] <pragmaticenigma> rdg: Looks like you're not the only one: https://askubuntu.com/q/364742
[13:24] <rdg> oh boy. 4 years ago.
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> I've found stuff going back to 2007
[13:25] <rdg> but i was told linux was ready for the desktop back in 2005 xD
[13:25] <joebobjoe> hi. apparmor is preventing man from working correctly and being able to access man pages on my nfs-mounted home directory. is this a bug?
[13:26] <pragmaticenigma> joebobjoe: not a bug, it's a configuration issue
[13:26] <bieb>  I have a lenovo m79 desktop. currently has 4gb ram, but that will be upgraded. I have installed a 3tb WD red hard drive (replacing the original drive). When the install completes and say to remove media and reboot.. I remove DVD, ctrl+alt+del, and I get a bunch of squashfs errors. I have to manually power off the machine and restart. Then I get "no operating system found". I have tried with 2 different install DVDs (1 - 18.04 and 1 18.0
[13:26] <bieb> 4.1) I have uefi turned off. If I restart with the DVD and select "try Ubuntu" I can see the file system exists that I just attempted to install. Any ideas or things to check next?
[13:27] <joebobjoe> pragmaticenigma, you're saying it was not configured by default this way?
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> joebobjoe: No, I'm saying when you setup your machine, you might need to edit appamor to understand the way you configured your machine to allow you to perform the actions your attempting
[13:30] <pragmaticenigma> rdg: I'm not finding many solutions. Finger pointing goes from nvidia, to compiz, to user error
[13:31] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: First issue, Western Digital RED drives are not meant of general use. They are for storage backup arrays
[13:32] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: Or another way to say it... WD REDs arn't designed to be used as a system drive
[13:33] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: gotcha..
[13:33] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: Since it's a fresh install... I'd try with a regular install and use EXT4 filesystem
[13:34] <pragmaticenigma> see if that results in any issues... that will help rule out buggy kernel code for a filesystem that isn't mainstream
[13:34] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: I did select to use ext4
[13:35] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: initially... I booted the DVD, selected install Ubuntu.. "erase drive and install"
[13:35] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: why are you pushing "CTRL + ALT + DEL" after removing the installation media? The screen says to push enter when you have removed the disk
[13:36] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: no it didn't, I thought that's what it should say also
[13:37] <pragmaticenigma> bieb: I think part of the problem is the drive... WD REDs aren't built the same as conventional harddrives. They're designed to be in raid arrays and are intentionally slow RPMs to extend their life. I'm not sure of other features of the drives, but I suspect it's part of the issue.
[13:38] <bieb> pragmaticenigma: thanks!! I will start there
[13:40] <mustmodify> Ubuntu Server 16.04 + pantheon(gui?) worked fine. Upgrade to 18.04 and my machine is putting itself to sleep on some small interval, like ... 30 min? Power settings changed to "never sleep." syslog: https://gist.github.com/mustmodify/11a6afdc20b25a31928e3d7abe1d08b1
[13:40] <mustmodify> any thoughts on how I can figure out what's requesting the sleep?
[13:40] <mustmodify> It says NetworkManager... would network manager request sleep? Seems odd. Or is NetworkManager receiving the request? Either way, odd.
[13:43] <mustmodify> ok, I found a StackOverflow post saying I may need to update my kernel. Typically that just happens on its own... how can I force a kernel update and/or recompile if latest?
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> mustmodify: take a look in #ubuntu-server mate
[13:46] <mustmodify> ok
[14:11] <BillD73> ubuntu 16, PNY 8GB usb drive, power failed while drive was mounted and receiving files. Can no longer access drive. Drive is visible under disk, does not show up under lsblk but shows up under lsusb. possible dead drive? Unknown age, not my drive
[14:13] <hateball> BillD73: perhaps just broken MBR, did you try simply zeroing the device and putting a new MBR on it?
[14:13] <hateball> well, simply putting a new MBR should do it
[14:15] <BillD73> hateball: no I havent   let me give that a go
[14:16] <hateball> BillD73: gparted is easy to use
[14:17] <EriC^> BillD73: does "dmesg" mention anything about it?
[14:17] <EriC^> if it isn't in lsblk i dont think you can make a partition table on it, does /dev/* show it? or "cat /proc/partitions" ?
[14:17] <BillD73> EriC^ I hadnt looked at DMESG
[14:17] <hateball> hmm fair point, it should show in lsblk even with broken partition table
[14:23] <ridders> ioria: thanks for the advice that worked and I managed to gain access to the contents. How do I mount the contents as read only? At the moment I can delete / edit certain files which I want to prevent
[14:25] <BillD73> EriC^ under what in /dev should I be looking? usb disk? it does not show up under cat /proc/partitions
[14:35] <EriC^> BillD73: anything in dmesg ? "dmesg | grep sd"
[14:36] <BillD73> EriC^ yeah it lists sdb as an attached scsi twice
[14:36] <EriC^> aha nice, in lsblk and 'cat /proc/partitions' there's nothing?
[14:37] <EriC^> BillD73:  is there anything else it says in dmesg? try "dmesg | grep -C10 sdb"
[14:37] <BillD73> EriC^ Correct nothing in lsblk or cat   just a sec
[14:38] <HellFire> i'd suggest unplug it, start "dmesg -w" and plug in again
[14:43] <BillD73> it shows under dmesg -w being connected and disconnected when removed.  mkusb doesnt recognize drive either
[14:44] <rosenjcb> I have a very very slow apt-get update after adding a few repos. I removed them all but it's still slow
[14:44] <BillD73> I'm beging to think its a dead drive  as I said its not mine anyway
[14:45] <rosenjcb> It'll just hang at "0% [4 InRelease gpgv 83.2 kB]"
[14:46] <EriC^> rosenjcb: maybe there are still repos?
[14:46] <rosenjcb> How do I find out?
[14:46] <EriC^> rosenjcb: can you pastebin "sudo apt-get update" ?
[14:46] <rosenjcb> I'll pastebin it
[14:47] <rosenjcb> https://pastebin.com/j2cDXxZs
[14:47] <rosenjcb> It doesn't slow down until after the 6th hit so I don't think it's rael-gc or webupd8team
[14:51] <BillD73> dus says no suitable dev found    think I'm done messing with it.
[14:52] <kristenbb> hello, I can't use the wifi on ubuntu 18.04. The wifi settings say 'no wi-fi adapter found'. What to do?
[14:52] <BillD73> thanks for the help hate HellFire and EriC^
[14:52] <EriC^> BillD73: maybe try "udevadm monitor" and unplug and plug
[14:53] <BillD73> ok cant hurt
[14:53] <cristian_c> EriC^^: I've tried update-initramfs -u -k all and nothing has changed
[14:54] <cristian_c> EriC^: I've looked at lsmod and the new driver appears, if I look at lsusb and dmesg the old blacklisted driver continues to appear
[14:55] <EriC^> cristian_c: how are you blacklisting it?
[14:55] <cristian_c> in both cases, wifi scan doesn0t happen
[14:55] <cristian_c> EriC^: putting blacklist line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:56] <EriC^> aha look here at the bottom about the "fake install" https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting
[14:56] <BillD73> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ym9n8wjbb8/
[14:56] <EriC^> BillD73: seems like it's kinda seeing it
[14:56] <EriC^> BillD73: what does "file /dev/sdb" give?
[14:56] <cristian_c> EriC^: but lsmod doesn't show the blacklisted drivrr
[14:56] <nisankh> anyone have any idea about this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hCVnmHRjVZ/
[14:56] <cristian_c> *driver
[14:57] <cristian_c> it's odd
[14:57] <BillD73> /dev/sdb: block special (8/16)
[14:57] <EriC^> cristian_c: oh
[14:57] <rosenjcb> EriC^, is there a way to pull up the editable sources.list file? I nano into /etc/apt/sources.list but I don't see them all
[14:58] <EriC^> BillD73: ok great, try "sudo parted /dev/sdb print"
[14:58] <EriC^> rosenjcb: they should be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[14:58] <blackandblue> how to use ubuntu as server for coding and stuff?
[14:58] <blackandblue> I have old laptop in spare (installed ubuntu 18.04)
[14:58] <BillD73> Error: Error opening /dev/sdb: No medium found
[14:58] <EriC^> rosenjcb: "tail -v -n+1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" should give you a birds eye view of them
[14:59] <rosenjcb> and how do I purge those?
[14:59] <rosenjcb> I see brightbox is still there
[14:59] <rosenjcb> and I noticed the slow down happen when I tried adding that SOB
[14:59] <rosenjcb> Oh do I just rm?
[15:00] <EriC^> BillD73: maybe it has some security feature or something, read post #3 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2290482
[15:00] <EriC^> rosenjcb: install ppa-purge and point it to it
[15:00] <cristian_c> EriC^: btw, I continue to see: rfkill: Cannot get wiphy information      ioctl[SIOCSIWAP]: Operation not permitted    ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument messages in journalctl
[15:01] <nisankh> i have checked the linux kernel codes for the mentioned error https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hCVnmHRjVZ/ and found that it is mentioned in the part here --> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/wireless/ath/ath10k/core.c#ath10k_fetch_cal_file ( search this too pre-cal-<bus>-<id>.bin ) but system is missing the bin file as mentioned in the kernel codes
[15:01] <cristian_c> EriC^: same messages when I try manual method by wpa-supplicant
[15:01] <EriC^> rosenjcb: this might help in case the ppa isn't a launchpad one, https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool
[15:01] <kristenbb> hello, I can't use the wifi on ubuntu 18.04. The wifi settings say 'no wi-fi adapter found'. What to do?
[15:02] <EriC^> kristenbb: is it a laptop?
[15:02] <BillD73> EriC^ sadly I dont believe that is the case since we have used the drive multiple times and before the "power outage" issue the system loaded it mounted and worked perfectly.   Is there some sort of lockfile somewhere for active file trasnfers possibly?
[15:03] <BillD73> let me slip it into another system and chck it
[15:03] <EriC^> BillD73: is it empty, are you fine to format it? we could try resetting the first few mb of the disk with zeros
[15:04] <akem> Wifi wasn't working on my laptop with 18.04 Live USB but des with 17.10. HP Pavilion serie.
[15:05] <kristenbb> EriC yes
[15:05] <kristenbb> Eric^ yes
[15:05] <BillD73> EriC^  tried that already it says no medium found
[15:06] <BillD73> I am fine in formatting it  I was passing him some files when the power dropped out
[15:06] <EriC^> kristenbb: try to shutdown the laptop, remove the battery, then hold the power button for like 5secs
[15:07] <kristenbb> eric^ what does that do?
[15:07] <EriC^> BillD73: try a smartctl test on it maybe it gives more insight,
[15:07] <EriC^> sudo apt-get install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdb
[15:07] <EriC^> kristenbb: it removes all the electricity completely
[15:08] <EriC^> i've had my wifi also disappear and stuff and it helped when i did that
[15:08] <kristenbb> just did it, didn't help
[15:09] <EriC^> kristenbb: does "rfkill list all" give anything?
[15:10] <akem> kristenbb, you can check with "lspci" in terminal if your wireless network appears.
[15:11] <BillD73> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/T5DgRNphtY/
[15:13] <kristenbb> rfkill list all shows 3 entries, one is acer-wireless (soft blocked=no, hard blocked=no), the 2 others mention bluetooth.
[15:14] <kristenbb> lspci shows, amongst other things, 'network controller (...) 802.11a/b/g/n'
[15:15] <EriC^> kristenbb: does "iwlist scan" give anything?
[15:16] <kristenbb> no
[15:17] <nisankh> kristenbb: can you please verify and give the details using the command " lspci -nnvv | grep 'Network' " , further we will verify board and firmware
[15:17] <kristenbb> also, it used to have wifi, and for no apparent reason stopped working
[15:19] <kristenbb> nisankh: your command shows network controller broadcom limited bcm43228 802.11abgn 14e4:4359
[15:20] <BillD73> EriC^ thx for the help   as cheap as drives are I'm just gonna tell him to get a new  one since it behaves exactly the same on a separate ubuntu system   Even tried it in my wifes $urface and it doesnt do a thing
[15:22] <nisankh> kristenbb: full output with rev tag
[15:22] <kristenbb> nisankh: what are you looking for please? i have to copy it by hand since i'm using another computer
[15:22] <nisankh> kristenbb: the output will start with digits and end also with rev
[15:23] <kristenbb> nisankh: the line starts with 02:00.0
[15:23] <nisankh> kristanbb: the full output will give you details of the hardware so that we can go further
[15:23] <nisankh> kristanbb: now try to find out dmesg log : e.g : dmesg | grep '_pci'
[15:24] <kristenbb> nisankh: well that's the full output, it's just one line, there's just one line of output, and 2 errors, which are 'pcilib: sysfs_read_vpd: read failed: input/output error
[15:25] <kristenbb> nisankh: dmesg does give one line, which is: 'rtsx_pci (numbers) vpd access failed; this is likely a firemark bug on this device; contact the card vendor for a firmware update'
[15:26] <kristenbb> firmware*
[15:26] <nisankh> kristanbb: now check the behaviour of the device driver message try to put the whole output using paste ( ubuntu paste ) https://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:26] <kristenbb> how do you mean check the behaviour of the device driver?
[15:27] <nisankh> kristanbb: it can be done by dmesg
[15:27] <kristenbb> so what am i to do exactly?
[15:28] <nisankh> kristanbb: just type now dmesg and check the messages which is related to your wifi card
[15:33] <nisankh> kristanbb: check the kernel sources to for your wifi card run " apt search bcmwl-kernel-source "
[15:33] <nisankh> kristanbb: and is it says installed
[15:37] <kristenbb> nisankh: you'll find the ouput for dmesg and apt search here: https://pastebin.com/z6yJ9nac
[15:50] <kristenbb> so what am i to do?
[15:58] <nisankh> kristenbb: as dmesg shows your firmware is invalid / wrong or not available
[15:58] <kristenbb> it used to work like 2 days ago...
[15:59] <nisankh> kristenbb: it gives you hint where to download the firmware now
[16:00] <nisankh> kristenbb: in dmesg output it says download the firmware and save it
[16:01] <nisankh> kristenbb: read carefully and follow the instruction https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43
[16:06] <nisankh> kristenbb: for more details check this too https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[16:08] <nisankh> kristenbb: this also will help you to diagnosis and resintall your driver and firmware https://gist.github.com/acharjyanisankh/f46c98b9f9d220a9085f1a4a398dcd74
[16:09] <nisankh> kritenbb: better follow the askubuntu question link https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[16:10] <kristenbb> i don't understand how i got into this situation, i did nothing that should have triggered this... i'm not a computer expert, i don't really understand all those sites. Can you please guide me through it ?
[16:13] <nisankh> kristenbb: it happens . its a chance to know more about things and how they work so dig into deep , good luck
[16:14] <kristenbb> well this is not really what i'm interested in, i just want a computer that works :(
[16:14] <nacc> kristenbb: can you summarize what happened?
[16:14] <nisankh> kristenbb: just read the whole thing from here https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers first , and than match your scenerio as you have missing firmware so try to follow the instructions mentioned there
[16:15] <kristenbb> nacc: yes, basically, i don't have wireless, for no apparent reason. And after digging into dmesg, it appears to be a firmware issue. That's pretty much where i am right now
[16:15] <nacc> kristenbb: did you switch kernels, reboot, etc.? Or during a runnin session this happened?
[16:16] <kristenbb> nacc at startup, from what i remember, i noticed i didn't have wireless anymore. didn't switch kernels or anything fency, but could have done the proposed updates. running 18.04
[16:17] <nacc> kristenbb: ah... proposed?
[16:17] <nacc> kristenbb: you are intentionally running with proposed enabled, that is?
[16:17] <nacc> kristenbb: or do you mean you accepted some updates? :)
[16:18] <kristenbb> what i meant to say is that i may have clicked on 'update' from the software update manager
[16:18] <nacc> kristenbb: have you tried another kernel?
[16:18] <kristenbb> no
[16:18] <kristenbb> wouldnt know how to
[16:19] <ioria> kristenbb, ok, let's start with your chipset :     lspci -nn -d 14e4: | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:19] <nisankh> kristenbb: in your scenerio you need the firmware now as it is missing after your update ....
[16:19] <liefer> I love SourceTree as my git client on windows and macOs. Anyone know of a good alternative on linux (that isnt command line)? It'd be nice if it has some built-in support for git-flow but its not required
[16:19] <nacc> kristenbb: i mean you rebooted, and ubuntu by default picks the latest kernel available. You could see if it was there in the prior kernel (reboot, in the grub menu, pick an older kernel)
[16:19] <nacc> kristenbb: although follow with ioria first
[16:23] <kristenbb> lspci output here: pastebin.com/TeDzyw2H
[16:25] <ioria> kristenbb, afaik, that chipset requires  bcmwl-kernel-source  ; is it installed ?
[16:25] <kristenbb> ioria: how to know?
[16:25] <ioria> kristenbb, dpkg -l | grep   bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:26] <kristenbb> no output
[16:26] <kristenbb> sorry, there's an output, i misspelled it.
[16:27] <ioria> kristenbb, dpkg -l | grep   bcmwl-kernel-source  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:28] <nisankh> kritenbb: first
[16:28] <nisankh>     Uninstall the bcmwl-kernel-source package by issuing the following command on a terminal:
[16:28] <nisankh>     sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[16:28] <nisankh>     Make sure that the firmware-b43-installer and the b43-fwcutter packages are installed (of course you will need internet by others means):
[16:28] <nisankh>     sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter
[16:28] <nisankh>     Type into a terminal:
[16:28] <kristenbb> ioria: output here https://pastebin.com/g0ivHSc3
[16:28] <ioria> kristenbb, has been removed ...
[16:29] <kristenbb> ioria: come again?
[16:29] <ioria> kristenbb,  'rc' mean removed
[16:29] <kristenbb> ioria: okay, so what to do?
[16:29] <nisankh> kristenbb: folow now
[16:30] <kristenbb> nisankh: come again? am i to do what you listed above?
[16:30] <ioria> kristenbb,  we try to reinstall it  (if it's the right package you need)
[16:30] <kristenbb> so what should i do now?
[16:30] <ioria> kristenbb,  sudo apt get install --reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source and reboot  (to be honest, i'am not 100% sure)
[16:31] <ioria> kristenbb,  if it fails, we try with b43 packages
[16:31] <nisankh> kritenbb: you need to follow the bcm common issue list to resolve this issue to do so first try this https://zerobin.lagout.org/?47f2add7186e89f6#2mp2bF70WBpUyyWiZbhCaL0ehdRPyZ4UpdWY3zdaehc=
[16:32] <kristenbb> it worked
[16:33] <nisankh> kritenbb: you may find resources at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:33] <kristenbb> so please let's recap, what was wrong?
[16:33] <kristenbb> (and thank you all)
[16:33] <ioria> kristenbb,  please, paste  lspci -k | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:33] <nacc> ioria: maybe check dpkg/apt history.log to see what uninstalled that pkg, if anything?
[16:33] <ioria> Nach0z, yep
[16:34] <ioria> nacc, sure, good idea
[16:36] <kristenbb> lspci output @ https://pastebin.com/5ciU2q0A
[16:36] <ioria> kristenbb,  please also     cat /var/log/apt/history.log  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:37] <nisankh> kristenbb: change the kernel driver from wl to b43
[16:37] <nisankh> kristenbb: now you need to change the kernel driver from wl to b43
[16:38] <nisankh> kristenbb: wait
[16:40] <Squarism> when I upgraded to 18.04 i can no longer log into a 16.04 machine with the priv keys I have my machine?
[16:40] <ioria> kristenbb,  please also     cat /var/log/apt/history.log  | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:40] <nisankh> kritenbb: first remove this sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source , than install sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter
[16:41] <Squarism> something happend to openssl/ssh from 17.10 -> 18.04?
[16:41] <nisankh> kristenbb: first remove this sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source , than install sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter
[16:41] <kristenbb> ioria: log @ https://pastebin.com/6yYnCB02
[16:41] <nisankh> kristenbb: now cat /etc/modprobe.d/ and look for and see if the term 'blacklist bcm43xx' is there
[16:41] <nisankh> not cat its cd
[16:42] <kristenbb> nisankh: why does it matter changing the driver if it already works as is ?
[16:42] <ioria> kristenbb,  well,no trace... probably has been zipped in other history.log.x files
[16:43] <nisankh> kristenbb: is this your old output than https://pastebin.com/5ciU2q0A
[16:43] <kristenbb> ioria: what word am I to look for in those log files? just bcmwl-kernel-source ?
[16:43] <ioria> kristenbb,  yes, with zgrep
[16:44] <ioria> brb
[16:45] <kristenbb> nisankh: what's your question ? the link you gave in your last reply is the current output, if that's the question (which is to say, now that it works again)
[16:45] <nr9032nsc6> hello, how can i disable iptables firewalling
[16:46] <nr9032nsc6> i don't have access to commands, but only filesystem
[16:46] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: `systemctl ufw disable` ?
[16:46] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: then you can't.
[16:46] <nisankh> kritenbb: i am asking the link you provided is after you have working wifi or before that
[16:46] <nr9032nsc6> in which file can i modify iptables?
[16:46] <nr9032nsc6> nacc: i'm in rescue mode of a distant server
[16:46] <nr9032nsc6> because the firewall blocks SSH :p
[16:46] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: in rescue mode, you have a terminal session
[16:46] <nr9032nsc6> yes terminal
[16:46] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: then why don't you have 'access to commands' ?
[16:47] <nr9032nsc6> i'm booted on a rescue image
[16:47] <nr9032nsc6> and i mounted the disk that contains /etc/
[16:48] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: you hould chroot in and then disable ufw (if it's actually ubuntu). but afaik, ufw by default does not block ssh.
[16:49] <nbastin> does anyone know how to make a serial console work on 18.04?  systemd claims that it starts one if you have the kernel command line set, but it doesn't seem to work, and now I'm having trouble testing because I can't make systemd stop starting one with the wrong settings
[16:49] <nr9032nsc6>  systemctl ufw disable > command not found
[16:49] <kristenbb> nisankh: the link i provided is after i have working wifi, yes
[16:49] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: sorry, sysemctl disable ufw
[16:49] <nr9032nsc6> It's 14.04 LTS (that I was about to upgrade in a few days!)
[16:49] <kristenbb> ioria: it turns out that i did a apt remove dkms, followed by apt install dkms.  the 'remove' operation removed dkms + bcmwl-kernel-source, whereas the install only installed dkms.
[16:49] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: oh, 14.04, it's a different command
[16:50] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: service disable ufw? not sure, tbh
[16:50] <nr9032nsc6> i finally chrooted :)
[16:50] <nr9032nsc6> root:/# service disable ufw
[16:50] <nr9032nsc6> disable: unrecognized service
[16:50] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: service ufw disable (the order changes, sorry)
[16:51] <dax> sudo ufw disable
[16:51] <nacc> dax: thanks
[16:51] <dax> i think there's a service for it too, but i've always heard to just use ufw's disable command
[16:52] <nr9032nsc6> dax thanks!
[16:52] <dax> and yes, ufw by default does not block anything, including ssh
[16:52] <nr9032nsc6> now rebooting the server, I hope I won't be SSH blocked again
[16:52] <nr9032nsc6> a bit of history: this ubuntu has an uptime of 2 years or more ;)
[16:52] <nr9032nsc6> not rebooted once during this time
[16:52] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: ... so insecure?
[16:52] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: 14.04 didn't have live patchings, afaik
[16:53] <nr9032nsc6> and suddenly today: my websites don't work, SSH doesn't work
[16:53] <nacc> dax: thanks for confirming, that's what i thought, but wasn't at all sure
[16:53] <nr9032nsc6> does this mean i've been hacked?
[16:53] <jas> lol
[16:53] <nr9032nsc6> how could the firewall suddenly block me?
[16:54] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: you didn't really address my point. How were you not rebooting in 2 years on a system that is that old (and doesn't have kernel live patching, so is vulnerable to spectre/meltdown without a reboot)?
[16:54] <nr9032nsc6> spectre / meltdown but how?
[16:54] <nr9032nsc6> it's not a VPS
[16:55] <nisankh> correction UFW by default policy blocks/deny all incoming but allow all outgoing connection
[16:55] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: that's just one example of security problems you had.
[16:55] <nisankh> reference wiki ubuntu ufw , and digitalocean wiki ufw setup
[16:55] <nr9032nsc6> now I rebooted and everythin is working again
[16:56] <nr9032nsc6> how can I have the log of why the firewall suddenly blocked me?
[16:56] <nr9032nsc6> (in SSH)
[16:56] <nbastin> serial-getty@ttyS0.service states that it is inactive, and yet every time I kill the damn agetty process holding ttyS0, it starts again
[16:57] <nisankh> correction to UFW block or not ( default policy ) https://ibb.co/kSdchU
[16:57] <nr9032nsc6> do you know how I can see who modified the firewall rules and block SSH between a few days ago and today?
[17:00] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: if that is what happened, it would be someone operating as the root user, so i'm not sure what you are hoping to determine. If you think you have been hacked, that's an orthogonal question (and youshould not use this server, until you know you have not been)
[17:01] <nr9032nsc6> I would just like to know if there is a log about firewall
[17:01] <nr9032nsc6> to know if it's maybe fail2ban or another reason that made the ports closed
[17:02] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: you could check syslog, the ufw log (if there is one for the service), etc.
[17:02] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: fail2ban also logs, iirc
[17:02] <nbastin> so I did systemctl mask serial-getty@ttyS0.service, and that doesn't stop it from coming back either.. :-/
[17:03] <nacc> nbastin: what does `systemctl status serial-getty@ttyS0.service` say?
[17:03] <nbastin> it says it's masked and inactive
[17:03] <nacc> nbastin: can you use a pastebin and show it, just to be sure?
[17:03] <nbastin> of course it said it was inactive before, but something is clearly starting it (something in systemd)
[17:03] <nbastin> http://termbin.com/v5qv
[17:03] <nacc> nbastin: and can you show the pid of the getty process you are seeing (and that is's a child of systemd (pstree  may help there ))
[17:04] <nbastin> systemd records starting it in syslog
[17:05] <nbastin> but yes, systemd is the parent of both agetty processes
[17:06] <nacc> nbastin: have you rebooted since you made your changes?
[17:06] <nbastin> no, can't reboot
[17:08] <nacc> nbastin: why not (curious)?
[17:08] <nbastin> because I don't have hands on the box to get the network up again
[17:08] <nbastin> which is why I'm trying to fix the serial console
[17:09] <nbastin> but I can't test what parameters work because systemd keeps stealing the port
[17:09] <nr9032nsc6> nacc: what is "ufw", is it the same than "iptables" or something different?
[17:09] <nbastin> I just need to be able to run agetty by hand until I find a set that works
[17:09] <nacc> nbastin: iirc, the getty thing is via a generator
[17:10] <nacc> nbastin: so i think you need to disable the generator?
[17:11] <nbastin> so status told me about the generator, which I don't know anything about - I read the man page which didn't tell me much, and the "docs" are a blog post that also don't help me
[17:11] <nbastin> since all of them assume that the default behaviour is what you want, and don't tell you how to stop it
[17:12] <nbastin> I tried the mask from https://stackoverflow.com/questions/21596384/cannot-disable-systemd-serial-getty-service
[17:12] <nbastin> but that didn't work either
[17:15] <nisankh> nr9032nsc6: ufw details http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/en/man8/ufw.8.html
[17:16] <nisankh> nr9032nsc6: or run command to see about ufw " curl cheat.sh/ufw "
[17:17] <nacc> nr9032nsc6: ufw is a wrapper around iptables
[17:17] <nr9032nsc6> ok thanks
[17:18] <nr9032nsc6> cat auth.log |grep Accepted  => only logins by myself,
[17:19] <nr9032nsc6> i checked fail2ban logs => no problem, it's not fail2ban who jailed SSH
[17:19] <nr9032nsc6> where else could i discover potential problems?
[17:23] <nbastin> nacc: I don't really know anything about generators, as I found out about them like 2 hours ago, but my sense is that the generator has already run, and while I might have wanted to disable it for next reboot, what I really need to do is disable the *effect* of the generator for this iteration, unless it's also going to run again without a reboot?
[17:24] <nbastin> it's not clear to me how to do that though
[17:24] <nbastin> and I can't figure out how to get systemd to tell me why it launched a given pid
[17:27] <nacc> nbastin: what kernel commandline did you use? are you sure there aren't more serial-getty services running than the one you disabled?
[17:29] <ioria> kristenbb, i see
[17:31] <nbastin> nacc: the kernel commandline does have a console, and it works right up until systemd kills it
[17:31] <nbastin> nacc: and replaces it with the agetty, which doesn't work
[17:32] <nbastin> nacc: there are no more serial-getty services running that I know of, but I don't really know where systemd is starting this one from, so I can't really say for sure
[17:36] <Sven_vB> one of my computers has just broken remains of an old Ubuntu on its harddisk, with a broken GRUB. is there an easy way to replace that with a stub that chainboots the first available USB thumbdrive?
[17:37] <Sven_vB> I could probably just copy a few MB from another computer to get a working GRUB. so would it become easy if I had GRUB working?
[17:37] <rdg> why don't you just tell the BIOS to boot USB
[17:38] <rdg> what do you need grub for
[17:40] <nacc> nbastin: sorry, i'm not sure. you might ask in #systemd (as this seems like less of an ubuntu-specific issue)
[17:40] <Sven_vB> I'd like to learn and practice how I'd do that remotely. the idea is to make the machine boot from USB how ever many attempts it needs until it manages to install Ubuntu, and once that succeeds, it shall continue with the local system.
[17:40] <Sven_vB> oh, sorry, you're right!
[17:41] <Sven_vB> no, dang. I'd have to enable boot from USB as a default, which would require someone with BIOS password to change later
[17:42] <Sven_vB> would be nicer if I'd only need one boot medium override at the beginning of the rollout.
[17:43] <Sven_vB> but the idea was good. if fallback to USB were an option, all I'd have to do was mutilate the broken GRUB even more.
[17:45] <Sven_vB> I guess there's no easy shortcut then for such a rare scenario.
[17:46] <Barabacha> any tips on how to free up some hard drive space on Ubuntu?
[17:47] <nacc> Barabacha: figure out what is using space and remove it? seems like a weird question :)
[17:47] <Nach0z> Barabacha: there's a handful of scripts you can find on stackoverflow that will list off the largest files on the system, and the largest subdirectories of a given directory
[17:47] <nacc> Barabacha: use `ncdu` of `du` to see disk usage
[17:48] <Sven_vB> Barabacha, start by enumerating the important files – probably those for which you have a backup strategy. then delete the others, except system files. ;)
[17:49] <Barabacha> nacc: nice, that helped
[17:49] <Barabacha> Steam takes up 2 gigabytes
[17:49] <nacc> Barabacha: np
[17:49] <Barabacha> out of 15 available
[17:49] <nacc> lol, probably for game data?
[17:49] <Barabacha> no, don't have any games installed
[17:50] <Barabacha> the steam became fat like its owner
[17:50] <Sven_vB> Barabacha, that doesn't mean Steam won't store savegames though.
[17:50] <Barabacha> it updates every time I open it
[17:50] <Sven_vB> Barabacha, steam probably also collects usage data.
[17:50] <nr9032nsc6> nacc: still about ufw/iptables
[17:50] <nr9032nsc6> the log seems to be in /var/log/kern.log or syslog
[17:50] <Barabacha> Sven_vB: never used it to play games on this system, installed only to keep in touch with friends
[17:50] <nr9032nsc6> but how to filter it to see iptables/ufw things only?
[17:50] <nr9032nsc6> is there a prefix for such lines? i can't find it
[17:51] <Barabacha> Sven_vB: just a 2GB chat client lol
[17:51] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, grep can filter text files. also awk and sed.
[17:51] <nr9032nsc6> Sven_vB: yes i've already tried "grep iptables syslog" etc.
[17:51] <jerichowasahoax> Barabacha: that seems wrong
[17:51] <nr9032nsc6> but nothing, so i thought maybe there's another prefix relative to iptables commands in syslog / kern.log?
[17:52] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, use pipes to feed output from one program (e.g. iptables) to another (e.g. grep)
[17:53] <jerichowasahoax> Barabacha: like, that feels like it shouldn't be happening
[17:53] <nr9032nsc6> Sven_vB: I know that, but it's for something different
[17:53] <nr9032nsc6> I don't want to feed out from iptable to grep
[17:53] <nr9032nsc6> i want to see in logs what happened about firewall
[17:53] <Barabacha> jerichowasahoax: you think there is a solution? :D
[17:53] <jerichowasahoax> man du
[17:53] <jerichowasahoax> wrong window
[17:54] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, you can use input redirection ("<" + filename) to start such a chain with reading from a file, e.g. </var/log/syslog grep -nFe 'bla'; you could of couse give a filename to sed, but when experimenting with search terms, I prefer to have them last in the command line.
[17:54] <jerichowasahoax> Barabacha: no wait, i found where those extra GB are going
[17:55] <jerichowasahoax> Barabacha: steam keeps a copy of basic libraries to make sure some of the games (like older ones) will still work
[17:55] <Sven_vB> I meant (give a filename to) *grep
[17:55] <Sven_vB> works for sed as well though :)
[17:55] <jerichowasahoax> Barabacha: *just in case* you want to run a game on this system later
[17:56] <binaryhermit> I'm in #debian and "frankendebian" came up.  How awful is it to use the weechat.org repo which just provides latest (and dev) weechats compiled against ubuntu
[17:56] <Barabacha> jerichowasahoax: hmm, with the help of ncdu I found a /packages/ folder that keeps a bunch of install packages I think?
[17:56] <Barabacha> jerichowasahoax: also inside the /packages/ folder there is a tmp folder
[17:56] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, oh I see now your command above is indeed valid. I wasn't used to seeing grep used without flags.
[17:56] <binaryhermit> I assume unlikely to fatally break anything that can't be fixed by uninstalling weechat
[17:57] <Barabacha> jerichowasahoax: /package folder is almost 1GB
[17:57] <jerichowasahoax> Barabacha: package only takes 200MB on my system, the bigger thing should be /ubuntu12_32
[17:57] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, do you have an example of what messages you're looking for?
[17:57] <dax> binaryhermit: as someone who uses the weechat.org repos with debian, i agree with your assumption. but they are, of course, unofficial, so if something does break you're kinda on your own
[17:58] <dax> binaryhermit: it's entirely possible for flashcode to go crazy one day and push up a package that deletes all your files, so...
[17:58] <Barabacha> jerichowasahoax: for me /package folder is 900 mb while the /ubuntu12_32 is also big, 700 mb... do you think I can delete ubuntu12_32 if I'm on Ubuntu 64 bit?
[17:58] <dax> (but i quite doubt this)
[17:58] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, you can also configure ufw to use its own logfile so you don't have to filter as much. https://askubuntu.com/a/452125
[17:59] <nr9032nsc6> Sven_vB: I don't know how ufw messages do look like
[17:59] <nr9032nsc6> I would like to analyze why the firewall settings changed in the last day!
[17:59] <nr9032nsc6> but i don't know which messages to look for in syslog or kern.log
[18:00] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, maybe some with "ufw" or "netfilter"
[18:00] <Sven_vB> nr9032nsc6, you could also configure a separate log file and then try to trigger similar events, so you see what kinds of messages could have been logged.
[18:00] <jerichowasahoax> Barabacha: but i'm running late for work, so i'll just give a hurried response and say "that's probably normal, sorry"
[18:01] <nr9032nsc6> Sven_vB thanks a lot!
[18:01] <Barabacha> jerichowasahoax: the rule of thumb is you're allowed to delete everything but steam.exe and steamapps folder on windows so I'll go ahead with it
[18:02] <donalsd> Hi, I want to run a script to install a list of deb packages on a few computers and I can't use the internet connection on those computers since they are high school systems and they don't allow that for some reason. So, I need to copy the packages using a flash drive and run a script to install all of them.
[18:02] <donalsd> How do I get deb packages with all the dependencies for the applications I want to install?
[18:04] <enzotib> donalsd: sudo apt-get --print-uris install package will give you all the URLs of the package and dependencies
[18:04] <donalsd> I need to manually download each of the packages and the dependencies?
[18:05] <enzotib> donalsd, you can feed the list to wget, after some cleaning
[18:05] <enzotib> or curl
[18:05] <donalsd> Uhh, I guess that's an option. I will look into it, thanks!
[18:07] <ubuntutr> hi
[18:07] <nacc> !offline | donalsd
[18:08] <donalsd> enzotib: Is there any other way to just list the dependency urls without installing it? It turns out that I already have them installed.
[18:08] <enzotib> donalsd, that comman only lists, do not install anything
[18:08] <ubuntutr> heyy
[18:09] <ubuntutr> i have question
[18:09] <enzotib> donalsd, but only lists packages that you need, not what you have already installed, I think
[18:09] <ubuntutr> my sendmail not working
[18:09] <nacc> ubuntutr: just ask.
[18:09] <ubuntutr> for Anope IRC services
[18:09] <enzotib> donalsd, you can freely try, because, I repeat, it does not install anything
[18:09] <ubuntutr> verify mail not coming
[18:10] <ubuntutr> users nick confirm coming in "dead.letter"
[18:10] <ubuntutr> "Your email address is not confirmed. To confirm it, follow the instructions that were emailed to you."
[18:10] <ubuntutr> but not coming in mail
[18:21] <nacc> !pm | ubuntutr
[18:21] <nacc> ubuntutr: what does sendmail have to do with receiving mail?
[18:22] <ubuntutr> postfix and sendmail
[18:22] <nacc> ubuntutr: both of those are MTA
[18:22] <ubuntutr> yes
[18:22] <nacc> ubuntutr: are you running the server that is sending the mail?
[18:23] <ubuntutr> in irc network
[18:23] <nacc> ubuntutr: you are running an irc network server?
[18:23] <ubuntutr> yes
[18:23] <ubuntutr> /ns register password mail
[18:23] <nacc> ubuntutr: and that server is not sending mails to users?
[18:23] <nacc> ubuntutr: did you check the logs
[18:23] <ubuntutr> yes
[18:23] <ubuntutr> which log
[18:23] <nacc> ubuntutr: did you test mails using sendmail directly?
[18:24] <nacc> ubuntutr: why are you using sendmail and postfix?
[18:24] <ubuntutr> test_message
[18:24] <ubuntutr> coming
[18:24] <ubuntutr> but irc network mail not workingn
[18:24] <ubuntutr> working
[18:25] <Sven_vB> ubuntutr, problem info should be in /var/log/syslog and/or /var/log/mail.err
[18:25] <ubuntutr> ok
[18:26] <nacc> ubuntutr: please stop using enter as punctuation, as well, it's really hard to follow
[18:27] <RandomNoob> Hello guys. What is best way to control process status. If it crashes run it. First way is Supervisor.
[18:28] <Sven_vB> RandomNoob, is this about keeping a service alive?
[18:29] <RandomNoob> Sven_vB: Yes it is. I have program to run 24/7
[18:30] <Sven_vB> RandomNoob, systemd can do that.
[18:30] <Sven_vB> RandomNoob, in case you need the service only in certain conditions (e.g. when someone connects via network), systemd can also start stuff on demand.
[18:31] <texla> Ubuntu 18.04 is Ubuntu budgie 18.04 considered as a favor in this irc channel and can we get help!!!
[18:31] <RandomNoob>  Sven_vB: currently I am using supervisord for it. But Ill check systemd if it will better choice.
[18:32] <Sven_vB> RandomNoob, what mechanism do you use to keep supervisord alive?
[18:33] <RandomNoob>  Sven_vB: nothing its just starts process if server will restart. I do not think it can check process status.
[18:35] <coconut> texla: what's your question?
[18:36] <texla> coconut, I was wanting to know for further use will budgie questions be allowed in ubuntu
[18:37] <Younder> We deal mainly with the core OS
[18:37] <Younder> What you get 'out of the box'
[18:38] <Barabacha> I have Ubuntu installed alongside Windows 7, I can browse Windows files using the file manager, but I can't seem to be able to access them with the terminal, how can I do that?
[18:39] <Sven_vB> Barabacha, in your file manager, enable the location bar, or try Ctrl+l maybe a location dialog pops up. that should show the path with which you can access the files in a terminal.
[18:40] <Sven_vB> Barabacha, you could also check the output of the "mount" command to see where the partitions are mounted.
[18:41] <coconut> texla: no i don't think so, but "/msg alis list budgie" does give an channel here on freenode.
[18:42] <Barabacha> Sven_vB: the first solution worked, thanks
[18:42] <Sven_vB> Barabacha, yw
[18:47] <nacc> !budgie | texla
[18:47] <nacc> Younder: coconut: to be clear, budgie is an official flavor, and is supported here.
[18:52] <coconut> nacc: are you sure? :/
[18:52] <nacc> coconut: yes.
[18:52] <ioria> !info ubuntu-budgie-desktop
[18:52] <nacc> !flavors
[18:52] <dax> #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and all of its official flavors, including Budgie. There are also channels for specific flavors that might have better support, or might not, depending on the channel.
[18:55] <linuxr> hi all. While updating software from repository, I noticed a process "http" which looks like this:
[18:55] <linuxr> 2301 _apt      20   0   88948   8892   7928 R   8.6  0.2   0:01.31 http
[18:55] <linuxr> However, i cannot find a "http" program
[18:55] <linuxr> what is this process? thanks
[18:55] <nacc> linuxr: that's just the 'comm' field from /proc. It does not necessarily correspond to an executable's name.
[18:56] <linuxr> nacc, is there a way to find the actual executable of a process?
[18:56] <nacc> linuxr: /proc/pid/exe
[18:56] <nacc> linuxr: e.g. ls -ahl /proc/self/exec
[18:56] <nacc> or a specific pid number, if it's still alive
[18:57] <coconut> dax: has that changed recently?
[18:57] <dax> coconut: no
[18:58] <dax> !-flavors
[18:58] <nacc> dax: handy command, thanks :)
[18:58] <dax> and i'm pretty sure that edit in 2017 wasn't a material change
[18:58] <nacc> yeah, budgie was added around then, maybe?
[18:58] <nacc> but official flavors have always (ime) been supported here
[18:58] <dax> i vaguely recall that there used to be a list in the factoid but it got too big so we link it instead
[18:59] <dax> and yeah, they've been supported the whole time i've been here, which is... a while
[18:59] <nacc> and it can change async from that factoid itself :)
[18:59] <nacc> dax: heh
[18:59] <ioria> coconut, are you on xenial ?
[18:59] <coconut> ioria: no
[19:00] <linuxr> nacc, I see, that's the binary...I meant the path of the executable :)
[19:00] <nacc> linuxr: yes, use `ls -ahl` and you can see where it is
[19:00] <nacc> linuxr: not sure what you mean by 'binary' vs. 'executable'
[19:00] <ioria> coconut, if you are on bionic you should have budgie in your repos ...
[19:00] <coconut> :D
[19:01] <ioria> linuxr, are you sure 'http' is the proc name ? maybe is the protocol
[19:02] <linuxr> ahh I see nacc...stupid me, that's a link to the binary...perfect just what I was looking for, thanks
[19:02] <nacc> iirc, apt grew some threads between 16.04 and 18.04, for the download steps, etc.
[19:02] <nacc> linuxr: yep, np
[19:03] <linuxr> ioria, no it's not the actual process name, see nacc's explanations
[19:03] <ioria> ok
[19:29] <nshirelaptop> I've set the resolution of my ubuntu server to 1024x768x24 in /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub but it is still the default 640x480. any tips?
[19:30] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: You don't supply the bit depth on GRUB_GFXMODE ... drop the x24
[19:31] <nshirelaptop> I'll try that, rebooting...
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: when you change the value did you run the update tool?
[19:32] <nshirelaptop> did sudo update-grub
[19:32] <pragmaticenigma> k
[19:34] <nshirelaptop> pragmaticenigma, nope, still 640x480. Is there an error log saved somewhere I should look at?
[19:34] <pragmaticenigma> dmesg contains things from boot... I don't know if grub will have it
[19:35] <nacc> lol, grub does not log (it is way too early to). You might be able to configure it to be more verbose, but i doubt it
[19:35] <ioria> nshirelaptop, try to comment the GRUB_GFXMODE line and add  GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768
[19:35] <nacc> nshirelaptop: and you checked with vbeinfo that your monitor can do it
[19:35] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: is there any particular reason that you need to change it? It's so briefly seen I just leave it alone rather than risk it causing other issues
[19:35] <nacc> nshirelaptop: grub is in real mode, which has some limitations
[19:36] <nacc> nshirelaptop: real restricted, sorry
[19:36] <nshirelaptop> nacc: I've tried several resolutions listen in vbeinfo
[19:36] <nshirelaptop> pragmaticenigma, having the interface locked to 640x480 is pretty restrictive
[19:37] <nacc> nshirelaptop: why are you interacting with grub that much? :)
[19:37] <nacc> nshirelaptop: it's not a super awesome interface, or really meant to be amazing visually on newer displays
[19:37] <ubuntutr> You have new mail.
[19:37] <nacc> you want grub to just work
[19:37] <ubuntutr> how i can read this mail
[19:38] <nacc> ubuntutr: run `mail`
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: restrictive how exactly? GRUB is on your screen all ove 10 seconds at the most before handing off to plymouth for the rest of the boot sequence
[19:38] <pragmaticenigma> ubuntutr: you type "mail"
[19:41] <nshirelaptop> ioria: GFXPAYLOAD worked. Now I realize it wasn't the grub resolution I wanted to change, but the resolution of the regular terminal. I assumed the terminal resolution would be identical to that of grub
[19:42] <ioria> nshirelaptop, good
[19:43] <antonm> Ever since upgrading my ubuntu server from 16.04 to 18.04, there's been a lot of issues with it
[19:44] <nshirelaptop> nacc, yeah you're right I assumed changing the grub resolution would change the resolution of the terminal when it's done booting
[19:44] <firelegend> Why does 18.04 not allow me to set a keyboard shortcut for input language?
[19:45] <firelegend> I want to set it to shift+alt but it doesnt work
[19:45] <firelegend> It only accepts three keycombo
[19:45] <firelegend> something like shift+alt+z
[19:48] <nshirelaptop> everything I've read online says to edit the grub resolution ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ https://askubuntu.com/questions/18444/how-do-i-increase-console-mode-resolution
[19:49] <firelegend> gnome-tweaks helped with the kb
[19:54] <nacc> nshirelaptop: by terminal, do you mean console? no gui running?
[19:54] <nshirelaptop> correct no gui
[19:54] <nshirelaptop> on a vm with no hw acceleration so I want to keep the load down
[19:55] <zonaut> antonm, what issues do you experience becauase i"m looking to upgrade :p
[19:56] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: the key is to look at the dates of the articles and help guides... typically the answer was correct at the time, but have since changed. The article you posted was from 2010... 8 years ago
[19:57] <pragmaticenigma> nshirelaptop: Anything not specifically calling out your installation or within a couple years is probably out-of-date
[19:57] <nshirelaptop> yeah I'm on 18.04lts
[19:57] <nacc> nshirelaptop: ah i see, yeha, grub is unrelated to your console/tty resolution (and if it happened to work before, it was probably pre-systemd)
[19:58] <nshirelaptop> the guide I originally started on had no date posted
[19:58] <pragmaticenigma> zonaut: Each person's upgrade experience will depend on their computer's current configuration. Common reasons for issues have mostly been related to the use of 3rd party software repositories (PPAs) having been added.
[19:59] <zonaut> any specific ppa's?
[20:00] <pragmaticenigma> zonaut: All PPAs are considered unsupported. They are maintained by 3rd parties and are not monitored by Canonical or Ubuntu developers. PPAs are at your own risk.
[20:01] <bluesmonk_> I'm installing Ubuntu 18.04 and it starts with the screen reverted. How do I make it normal? Gnome does not show something to rotate it  at this point and I'ven some terminal commands but opening a shell i.e with ctrlaltF3 is not doing it
[20:01] <bluesmonk_> Meaning I login as Ubuntu, and xrandr commands return there's no screen available
[20:03] <zonaut> pragmaticenigma, yeah i know. My question was which specific ppa's are know to pose problems
[20:04] <teward> zonaut: there's no way for us to tell.
[20:04] <teward> zonaut: ANY PPA can pose ANY problem at ANY time for ANY given use case
[20:04] <teward> and since we don't support PPAs here, we can't vouch for them, nor reliably indicate which ones are problematic
[20:05] <pragmaticenigma> zonaut: What I'm saying is based on people that had issues, and after removing the PPA, resolved their problems
[20:06] <antonm> zonaut: there's been a delay between running sudo (anything) and when it'll actually load, some config files and software didn't seem to work correctly - nothing was really that severe though, it stil works for the most part
[20:08] <zonaut> ok thanks antonm, will give it a try on a vps
[20:08] <pragmaticenigma> antonm: Making a generic statement like you did isn't helpful and won't generate helpful responses. I'd recommend monitoring syslog when you issue sudo commands to see if any errors are being logged
[20:08] <zonaut> pragmaticenigma, are you a bot?
[20:08] <antonm> ok
[20:09] <Epx998> If have a list of packages to install, when i apt-get install them all at once, i get a failure because a dep issue on package X, but if I single out package X, it installs.  I thought apt was sort to sort that all out and install in the correct order when a big list is given?
[20:09] <antonm> I never had the issue in 16.04 though
[20:10] <pragmaticenigma> antonm: There are quite a few changes from 16.04 to 18.04 ... some of it might be the way your computer was configured in 16.04 not being compatible with 18.04. I'm certain that syslog will be the best starting point for figuring out what's going on
[20:12] <zonaut> only a few changes between 16.04 and 18.04, never would have guessed
[20:12] <Epx998> https://gist.github.com/epx998/50bdab2edcd7147e7f592cf9d44585df
[20:12] <Epx998> is the output from apt
[20:13] <pragmaticenigma> Epx998: The issue is in the message: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[20:13] <pragmaticenigma> Epx998: Somewhere, you have flagged packages to be pinned at a specific version
[20:14] <pragmaticenigma> Epx998: You failed previous installations of packages
[20:14] <pragmaticenigma> you => or
[20:15] <Epx998> pragmaticenigma: ok checking each one as a single package
[20:15] <pragmaticenigma> Epx998: Running each as a single package won't help you identify the package causing the issue
[20:15] <Epx998> pragmaticenigma: apt-cache search shows each package exists
[20:16] <Epx998> i ran a i loop on the list doing a apt-cache search, all returned 0
[20:16] <Epx998> hmm dang apt
[20:16] <antonm> this was with a clean install
[20:17] <nacc> Epx998: packages existing is not hte problem
[20:17] <zonaut> Epx998, try to run sudo apt-get -f install
[20:17] <pragmaticenigma> Epx998: I know there is a command to flush out the held package so you can move past it
[20:17] <Epx998> zonaut: I ran than, no issues there.
[20:17] <Epx998> man page to the rescue
[20:17] <nacc> Epx998: and also using a shell script to install packages makes it hard for us to help you :)
[20:18] <nacc> pragmaticenigma: that message also may not have anything to do with 'holds'
[20:18] <nacc> it si emitted if a manually installed package conflicts as well
[20:18] <nacc> which is a hold, but not the kind we usually think of
[20:18] <Epx998> nacc: the script was just apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 ... ... -y
[20:18] <pragmaticenigma> Thanks nacc, I'm aware that is one of the scenarios as well
[20:19] <nacc> Epx998: ok, but we odn' tknow what pkg1 pkg2 pkg3 are
[20:19] <Epx998> nacc: https://gist.github.com/epx998/13e9dea5339230555abcb4fa84479299 those are the packages
[20:21] <zonaut> Epx998, run dpkg --get-selections | grep hold
[20:22] <Epx998> zonaut: nothing was returned
[20:31]  * Epx998 smacks apt around
[20:49] <nacc> Epx998: why are you picking versions of boost?
[20:49] <nacc> Epx998: you are picking generic and versioned packages
[20:49] <nacc> Epx998: that is almost certainly wrong.
[20:50] <Epx998> nacc: it a requirement from our dev team - this was the list handed down to me.
[20:50] <nacc> Epx998: in particular, if in your versin of ubuntu and apt configuration
[20:51] <nacc> Epx998: you have requested boost1.65 by hand
[20:51] <nacc> Epx998: but your unversioned packages depend on 1.67
[20:51] <nacc> complete PEBKAC :)
[20:51] <nacc> Epx998: don't tell apt to install conflicting packges, and it won't
[20:51] <Epx998> hmm yeah let me gander more at the versions
[20:51] <nacc> Epx998: `apt-cache show libboost-container-dev; apt-cache policy libboost-container1.67-dev`
[20:51] <nacc> Epx998: their list is wrong.
[20:51] <Epx998> but when i ran a manual install of each, no issues
[20:52] <nacc> Epx998: yes, the problem is you told it to install two conflicting packages
[20:52] <nacc> Epx998: e.g., libboost-container-dev (depends on libbost-container1.67-dev) and libboost-container1.65-dev
[20:52] <Epx998> yeah i hear what youre saying
[20:53] <Epx998> I got the ok to change versions to see if dev even notices
[20:54] <nacc> Epx998: but the point is your list was wrong
[20:54] <nacc> Epx998: you either need a specific version, or you need the current verion
[20:54] <nacc> Epx998: you are painting yourself in a corner otherwise
[20:54] <Epx998> yes I understood your point :D
[20:54] <Epx998> ill cross ref everything and sort it out
[20:55] <Epx998> ty for pointing that out, i looked right over the obvious
[20:55] <nacc> Epx998: yes, ime, 100% of the time someone comes in this channel and says "apt is wrong", they are wrong. :)
[21:13] <Irritiable|LT> nacc: apt is wrong
[21:14] <eden> Any way to install ubuntu with "optional" gui, like you can choose to boot to a gui or run in server/no gui mode?
[21:14] <_KaszpiR_> eden not really
[21:15] <_KaszpiR_> you could just disable X to start
[21:15] <eden> what if I install server and then some gui that I manually start?
[21:15] <tiggster79> or install Ubuntu Server and then X?
[21:15] <eden> havnt looked at X....
[21:16] <tiggster79> XORG
[21:16] <tiggster79> in order to use a gui on any Linux distribution, you need Xorg and probably a window manager or desktop environment.
[21:17] <tiggster79> which you can install from the repo on Ubuntu Server
[21:17] <eden> sounds like no easy/normal way to do this
[21:19] <tiggster79> eden: its not that difficult, but it'll be more effort than just clicking next a few times in a GUI installer.
[21:20] <eden> right well if I install XORG and a window manager, could I set them to not auto start? so I can manually boot em up on demand?
[21:21] <mendi> Hey guys so I want to open a terminal, run a .sh script in it after each reboot, how do I do that? gnome-terminal -e /path/script.sh tells me that -e is deprecated
[21:21] <tiggster79> eden: Xorg will only auto-start if you install a display manager and enable it through systemd.
[21:21] <tiggster79> otherwise you start Xorg using startx command from the tty
[21:22] <mendi> also crontab or something else? using crontab to execute the shell script gives me segmentation faults
[21:23] <mendi> while executing it in a terminal myself is no problem so that's why I want to run it in a terminal
[21:28] <mendi> oh nvm!
[21:28] <mendi> it works fine
[21:28] <mendi> xD
[21:35] <Sven_vB> seems like I broke something in my Bionic Live USB. today I again tried to install it, but the desktop doesn't come up, the screen is black. I can SSH in and systemd says gdm is "active (running)", but "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr" says "No protocol specified¶ Can't open display :0" any ideas?
[21:38] <newdimension> In unattended-upgrades conf Allowed Origins has a few options. What's the difference between "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-updates"; and the first one without -updates?
[21:41] <[Gort]> Anyone know something about recent shim packages' being pulled by Ubuntu? A week ago I updated my system, and shim and shim-signed were amongst the packages updated. They were pulled shortly afterwards by Ubuntu, and now show as obsolete on my system. Just wondering what to do about this? Asked twice yesterday, but no answer.
[21:45] <Sven_vB> nevermind, asking here magically solved the problem.
[21:47] <Sven_vB> [Gort], which Ubuntu version?
[21:48] <[Gort]> Sven_vB,  18.04. It came down in a regular update. Then I learnt that it was shortly pulled a couple of days later, so now shows as obsolete/self-installed.
[21:50] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, noticed both were in Obsolete and googled. shim version 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1, and shim-signed version 1.37~18.04.1+15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1
[21:50] <Sven_vB> here's the package description page at least: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/shim maybe I can find something in the recent bug reports.
[21:50] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, yeah, everything is fine, so I'm not worried as such, it's just that two important packages in obsolete after an update is a bit wrong. ;)
[21:51] <Sven_vB> [Gort], maybe they were transitional packages
[21:51] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, just wondering if to leave them till they're finally superseded by new ones or "fix" them.
[21:51] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, These aren't that.
[21:51] <Sven_vB> aptitude why $pkgname
[21:51] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, checked that
[21:51] <Sven_vB> if there's no good reason you can safely remove it.
[21:52] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, we're talking about shim and shim-signed. I'm not removing them :D
[21:52] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, they're not transitional
[21:52] <Sven_vB> then I probably misunderstood your question.
[21:53] <Sven_vB> what did you mean with "pull"? first I thought of unpublished, but they're currently available, so that's probably not it.
[21:54] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, see, I did an update about a week ago, both were updated. Then I find them a couple of days later as obsolete. I then check on Google and discover that they're pulled and the previous are back on the servers. So I'm stuck with packages that are ahead of those on the servers. I'm wondering if to wait till they catch up or put the previous ones back. I tried force version, but got complaints and decided not to be silly.
[21:54] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, bug or something. Ubuntu took them off the repository.
[21:54] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, I unfortunately was caught in between
[21:54] <Sven_vB> oh I see now. would you mind sending me a copy of the ahead packages?
[21:57] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, sorry, what do you mean? The ones I've got now? I'm not sure where they are on the repositories. I think they might be in proposed (I'm not pointed to that in my sources.list, before you ask)
[21:57] <[Gort]> Sven_vB,  I don't save packages updated I have the cache wiped after update
[21:58] <Sven_vB> so 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1 is the ahead version?
[21:58] <Sven_vB> that seems to be in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim/15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1
[22:00] <[Gort]> Sven_vB,  the version I have now, yes. It's in proposed and on Cosmic. I got them in a regular update.
[22:00] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, nothing is wrong, it's working fine, I can dual boot, etc, so I'm not desperate to fix it, but if it can be done easily, I will.
[22:01] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, but I shouldn't have got those packages.
[22:01] <Sven_vB> well it says it was published for Bionic proposed on 2018-09-14, so why shouldn't you have gotten it?
[22:02] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, why is it seen as obsolete?
[22:02] <Sven_vB> I've no idea. what program says it's obsolete?
[22:02] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, that happens when the package isn't in the repository
[22:02] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, synaptic
[22:03] <Sven_vB> might it have fetched some outdated repo index?
[22:03] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, no, all point to bionic
[22:03] <Sven_vB> I'll ask my bionic apt what it thinks is current
[22:04] <Sven_vB> yeah my apt on bionic thinks 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1 is current. your package cache seems to be out of date.
[22:04] <Sven_vB> or index rather
[22:05] <Sven_vB> maybe try another mirror?
[22:05] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim shows that my version is bionic-proposed
[22:06] <Sven_vB> yeah. do you not have that in your package sources?
[22:06] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, no
[22:07] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, want me to paste my sources.list?
[22:07] <Sven_vB> oh ok. maybe run apt update?
[22:07] <Sven_vB> nah I believe you :)
[22:07] <[Gort]> yeah, going to do a dist-update
[22:07] <[Gort]> dist-upgrade
[22:07] <[Gort]> I meant
[22:07] <Sven_vB> I wonder if apt even has a feature to forget packages whose source has vanished.
[22:08] <Sven_vB> not sure whether upgrade will imply update
[22:08] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, did sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:09] <[Gort]> Sven_vB,  same problem
[22:10] <Sven_vB> ok so at least now I think I know your situation. I don't however know an apt command to make it forget about packages.
[22:10] <[Gort]> maybe I just wait till it catches up with me
[22:11] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, as I said, everything works, but it's just annoying to see that obsolete there ;)
[22:12] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, eventually those proposed will be added for real again. Seems that they put them up, then someone changed their minds and put the previous back up.
[22:13] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, thanks for the help, btw.
[22:13] <Sven_vB> yeah maybe they disagreed on whether it was ready yet.
[22:13] <Sven_vB> this article claims to explain cleaning obsolete packages: https://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/02/07/debian-cleanup-tip-2-get-rid-of-obsolete-packages/
[22:14] <Sven_vB> "apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean" probably won't hurt either.
[22:16] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, I regularly do that. But these packages are important to keep and they're not flagged by autoremove.
[22:16] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, I'll just keep them and wait for proposed to be moved to bionic proper.
[22:17] <Sven_vB> ok :)
[22:17] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, they're not causing a problem for me, so I can live with them being obsolete.
[22:17] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, cheers :)
[22:19] <[Gort]> Sven_vB, still, a bit of a silly situation. Seems I was just "unlucky"; in the right place at the wrong time. ;)
[22:20] <Sven_vB> could also be lucky if the changes remove bugs :)
[22:21] <[Gort]> hehe
[22:21] <[Gort]> hope so ;)
[22:34] <nacc> [Gort]: what was the problem with apt?
[22:35] <nisankh> do anyone have idea about what user-agent used by apt
[22:35] <nacc> (or the repositories, rather)
[22:35] <nacc> nisankh: something like Debian APT-HTTP/3?
[22:35] <nacc> but you can set it in apt.conf
[22:36] <nisankh> nacc: mismatched
[22:36] <nacc> nisankh: what?
[22:36] <nisankh> nacc: testing for some exploit in recent apt package , Debian APT-HTTP/3 resulted mismatch
[22:37] <nacc> nisankh: 'mismatch' in what? testing where and how? you are giving zero context
[22:37] <nacc> nisankh: you asked a question, i gave an answer.
[22:38] <[Gort]> nacc, basically, I did a usual system update, shim and shim-signed were upgraded, then a few days later I discover in synaptic that they're now obsolete. I googled and found out that they were pulled and the original versions put back. The pulled packages are for Cosmic, and are in bionic-proposed. I don't have my sources.list linking to proposed, in case you ask.
[22:38] <nisankh> exploit works with Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (1.6.3ubuntu0.1) , this is the user-agent
[22:39] <nacc> [Gort]: are you on 18.10?
[22:39] <nacc> [Gort]: which specific version, as well, if you don't mind me asking
[22:39] <[Gort]> nacc, it's no big deal, things work and what's in proposed will come into bionic proper eventually. Still, I was wondering how to safely return both packages to original versions.
[22:39] <[Gort]> nacc, 18.04
[22:40] <[Gort]> nacc, I have googled and know that the packages were put up then pulled a day later. I updated while they were up.
[22:40] <nacc> [Gort]: what version of the package i meant
[22:40] <nacc> [Gort]: ah so there was an archive error?
[22:40] <[Gort]> nacc, it's not an error on my part
[22:40] <nacc> [Gort]: was it 1.37~18.04.1 ?
[22:41] <[Gort]> nacc, someone who maintains the repositories put up wrong packages or changed their minds.
[22:41] <[Gort]> nacc, shim 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1 and shim-signed 1.37~18.04.1+15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1
[22:41] <marsje> did anyone get sshfs to mount at boot time?
[22:42] <[Gort]> nacc, I can live with them and wait for proposed to be put into bionic. I was just trying to sate my ocd ;)
[22:43] <[Gort]> nacc, you know, obsolete packages that shouldn't be obsolete, etc
[22:43] <nacc> [Gort]: yes, that came from src version 1.37~18.04.1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim-signed/+publishinghistory it was SRU'd and then reverted
[22:43] <nacc> it's rare, but does happen
[22:44] <nacc> LP: #1790724 and LP: #1792575 have the details
[22:44] <[Gort]> nacc, yeah, I was wondering if I could safely revert, but shim isn't one of those types of packages to play with.
[22:44] <[Gort]> nacc, I can live with them.
[22:44] <nacc> [Gort]: yeah, it should be fine, it will get rereleased soonish
[22:44] <[Gort]> nacc, thanks
[22:44] <[Gort]> nacc, yeah. cheers :)
[22:44] <nacc> [Gort]: looks to have been blocked by unrelated issues in grub2, which are now fixed
[22:44] <nacc> (but might still be pending for bionic)
[22:45] <[Gort]> nacc, seems my machine is ahead of itself ;)
[22:46] <blackyboy> Hi Everyone,
[22:46] <nacc> marsje: well, it's not at 'boot time', but it would be after networking is up
[22:46] <blackyboy> We are running a wordpress website in VPS server.
[22:46] <nacc> marsje: never tried, what do you see happen and how is it configured to mount?
[22:47] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | blackyboy
[22:47] <marsje> nacc: I put it in fstab and added the _netdev option to make sure it will wait for the network. Nothing happens and I cant find any errors. I have got it working by doing mount -a
[22:47] <blackyboy> Now site loading very slow. If we flush all the iptables rules and change the default CHAIN to ACCEPT it works in great speed. But with iptables its very slow and plugin installation page showing some error.
[22:48] <nacc> marsje: can you pastebin the line from fstab?
[22:49] <nacc> marsje: if you are on a modern ubuntu (16.04 or later), you might try a systemd.mount unit instead
[22:50] <marsje> nacc: yeah, read something about it.. if I understand correctly fstab is converted to systemd unit files on the fly
[22:51] <nacc> marsje: right, it should be -- you should therefore be able to check the status andlogs of the generated systemd.mount unit
[22:51] <pragmaticenigma> blackyboy: the more rules set in iptables, the slower it's going to function
[22:52] <marsje> nacc: how can I check those?
[22:52] <pragmaticenigma> blackyboy: Also, the more rules the morely likely rules are going to overlap, contradict, or collide with each other
[22:53] <nacc> marsje: systemctl list-units --all to find the right unit, then systemctl status <unit>
[22:53] <nacc> marsje: that's how i'd start at least
[22:54] <blackyboy> So making the INPUT Chain as DROP and OUTPUT Chain as ACCEPT will be safe enough? Instead of making both DROP and writing more rules.
[22:54] <marsje> nacc: good tip... I will try. thanks
[22:54] <pragmaticenigma> blackyboy: what are you trying to do with iptables... there's no context for anyone to give proper advice
[22:56] <blackyboy> pragmaticenigma i need to allow only http, https, SSH other need to be blocked.
[22:56] <nacc> blackyboy: then i don't think you'd want to drop all input
[22:56] <Sven_vB> so Ubiquity was about to crash in plugin ubi-language.py, because "sh -c /usr/lib/ubiquity/localechooser/post-base-installer && /usr/lib/ubiquity/localechooser/finish-install" had returned exit code 2. I'm now in a debug shell in the same context in which sh ran, tried to run post-base-installer but it seems to expect to talk to debconf, because all it does is ask me "GET debian-installer/locale". any ideas how to debug from here? do I
[22:56] <Sven_vB> really have to play all of Ubiquity again (since this is after all the copying) in order to capture stdio next time?
[22:57] <nacc> Sven_vB: what are you doing that is involving running ubiquity by hand?
[22:57] <nacc> Sven_vB: it's really not a support topic, as it's not something anyone should be doing :)
[22:58] <Sven_vB> nacc, I'd really prefer to not have to debug this myself. I just lack someone else willing to fix the ubiquity crash for me. :D
[22:58] <nacc> Sven_vB: is it a real ubiquity crash? or something funky with your setup
[22:58] <nacc> Sven_vB: that is, stock ubuntu installer crashes?
[22:59] <blackyboy> nacc ok
[22:59] <Sven_vB> nacc, the ubiquity is stock, but it runs with a seed. I suspect I might have an incorrect keyboard layout name, but really, there are better ways to tell me than "Plugin crashed with error code 2" and flinch the almost-completed install
[23:00] <pragmaticenigma> blackyboy: This appears to be close to your answer, it doesn't include port 80, which should be easy enough to add: https://serverfault.com/a/758499
[23:00] <Sven_vB> so I edited ubi-language.py near "return command" to run my REPL via fifo bash script instead of sh directly
[23:02] <blackyboy> pragmaticenigma Thank you, let me look into it.
[23:03] <jeremy31> [Gort] have you seen https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2402068
[23:03] <nacc> Sven_vB: i just meant this isn't really an ubuntu support topic any more :)
[23:03] <Sven_vB> nacc, oh ok. :)
[23:03] <nacc> Sven_vB: if the bug is with your preseed, seems easy enough to fix
[23:04] <Sven_vB> nacc, well at this point I don't even know whether it's in my seed. the main bug is the non-helpfulness of Ubiquity's message.
[23:05] <nacc> Sven_vB: which plugin?
[23:06] <nacc> Sven_vB: related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/906015 ?
[23:06] <Sven_vB> nacc, ubi-language.py https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GVtqfFxTPs/
[23:06] <Sven_vB> I'll check that bug
[23:06] <nacc> Sven_vB: i'd trawl launchpad a bit if i was you
[23:07] <nacc> Sven_vB: and possibly file your own bug, installer bugs typicall get response
[23:07] <Sven_vB> ok then. I had no hope for that because it was the same bug with 18.04 and 18.04.1
[23:08] <Sven_vB> then I'm probably unlucky. the garbage collection patch I submitted years ago, I still have to apply myself.
[23:08] <MWM> I am having trouble accessing a samba share because it the share is outside my user directory (I think) and advice besides moving the share?
[23:09] <dar123> hey guyz, i am doing bind config for the first time. I  added two domains, first one works fine. Second one still showing public name server. I even removed the forwarder
[23:09] <Sven_vB> hahahaha. "Do you want to try running this step again before continuing?" yeah I wish my Ubiquity showed that amount of cooperation. so it's probably not bug 906015.
[23:10] <Sven_vB> oh that's for precise also. precise and xenial install ok for me.
[23:11] <Sven_vB> strange, in the log excerpt I pasted it's code 143 not 2, must have been something else.
[23:11] <[Gort]> jeremy31, yeah, I started that. ;) I go under the name of Qew on the forum.
[23:11] <[Gort]> jeremy31, thanks, though. :)
[23:12] <pragmaticenigma> dar123: You might want to ask in #ubuntu-server
[23:13] <dar123> thanks
[23:13] <Sven_vB> now that I faked success, the next plugin (apt-setup) crashes. grah.
[23:18] <blackyboy> pragmaticenigma Thank you, It works.
[23:18] <pragmaticenigma> awesome blackyboy ... glad we could help
[23:21] <Sven_vB> looks like I'll have to rewrite the entire "def run(self):" in a debug-friendly way. if someone is interested in having that in master, I'll gladly share.
[23:38] <Kuwanger> No matter what I do, org.gtk.Settings.FileChooser sort-directories-first keeps being reset to false.  Is there any way to make the setting read-only?
[23:41] <pragmaticenigma> Kuwanger: Have you tried setting it within Nautilus's own preferences?
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> Kuwanger: If there is an instance of nautilus open, the last instance to close writes it's preferences at that's what sticks.
[23:43] <Kuwanger> pragmaticenigma: The issue is save dialogs.  Nautilus has the right setting, but Chromium/Firefox repeatedly lose/reset the setting.
[23:46] <Kuwanger> pragmaticenigma: I can use dconf watch to observe Firefox (I think it's the main culprit) resetting it, but I don't know how to get better resolution to find out what code is actually doing it.
[23:46] <Kuwanger> So, short of that, it'd be nice to just lock a setting.
[23:47] <pragmaticenigma> Kuwanger: there are a number of bugs that I found were firefox has issues with integrating to the DE file manager
[23:47] <Kuwanger> Any workaround/solution?
[23:48] <pragmaticenigma> Kuwanger: You might want to try starting firefox with a different profile (easily done by moving ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla_bak) after making the settings change
[23:58] <Kuwanger> pragmaticenigma: The thing is I change the setting in the file dialog and it seems to keep for a while to just then revert later. :/