| lubot | <kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> here's the right place on the lxqt forum https://forum.lxqt.org/c/discussi …], @wxl I'm a noob on this forum, I don't think my post went through yet. New at the Ubuntu discourse too, you may want to post it up. Waiting on a mod at ubuntu-quality. It's out there though. Thanks for the help. | 00:08 |
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| wxl | ugh i forgot discourse is stupid | 00:10 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @wxl I saw my diff was approved, but I still have 403 error whe trying to 'arc land' will land automaticly since it was approved? | 00:11 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower i think it's a permissions thing. and i can't do it here. have to wait until i get home | 00:12 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> What's arc land? Do I need to do it too? | 00:13 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl `arc land` is what basically takes your diff (remember `arc diff`) and applies it to the actual repo | 00:16 |
| wxl | in Launchpad/git language, it's a merge | 00:16 |
| wxl | but like i said, you can't do it, so don't worry :) | 00:16 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> 👍👍👍 ... Ok I'll slow down for a bit. ;) | 00:17 |
| wxl | well i'm sure there's something else to work on :) | 00:17 |
| wxl | The Welcome Center? :) | 00:17 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> Oh yes, I still have a lot to work on. No worries there! | 00:18 |
| wxl | XD | 00:19 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @wxl What does it take to get the call for help posted on the Lubuntu Announcement Telegram? | 00:19 |
| wxl | @kc2bez as someone who is not really a telegram user, i haven't the foggiest XD | 00:20 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Fair enough. There aren't too many of us over there yet. | 00:20 |
| lyorian | grr I can't get i386 to boot off a usb it get stuck on plymoth | 00:23 |
| lyorian | I get a repead message of echi-pci 0000:00:1d.7: dma_direct_map_sg: overflow 0x0000000135a35000+2048 of device mask ffffffffff | 00:25 |
| lubot | <brli7848> lxqt seems to give weird locale regard to Chinese... | 00:25 |
| lubot | <brli7848> aka. trv_TW.UTF-8 | 00:25 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I've got a 32bit machine here somewhere. I'll dig it out. | 00:25 |
| lubot | <brli7848> which I've never seen before | 00:25 |
| lyorian | this was a 64 that normally is can boot 32 before | 00:26 |
| wxl | does that locale problem happen with other 18.10 flavors of ubuntu? | 00:26 |
| lyorian | I should check if this is 32 bit only | 00:27 |
| wxl | and if other flavors are affected. i think xubuntu still has i386 | 00:27 |
| wxl | netboot too | 00:27 |
| Wafficus | wxl: hey wxl, I tried doing an "#include <QtCore>" and its saying no file or directory lol | 00:29 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> In all the dailies I've never had a local issue on Lubuntu. It has been the most accurate of the *buntu bases I've used. | 00:30 |
| wxl | Wafficus: jeez. maybe try #qt? | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | https://pastebin.com/c2J0dNJ8 | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | just the first script | 00:31 |
| Wafficus | I just ran g++ version.cpp | 00:31 |
| Wafficus | like as in, ask in #qt? | 00:31 |
| wxl | personally i wouldn't expect the locale behavior to be different between flavors | 00:31 |
| Wafficus | the channel? | 00:31 |
| wxl | Wafficus: yeah. i mean that is THE qt channel. maybe they can help you sort out the issues. | 00:31 |
| Wafficus | wxl: gotcha | 00:31 |
| Wafficus | wxl: so I gone ahead without that version.cpp file example | 00:43 |
| Wafficus | I made the "simple.cpp" example | 00:43 |
| Wafficus | I have a Makefile, simple.cpp, simple.pro, simple, and simple.o file | 00:44 |
| Wafficus | which one is the blank window in that directory? | 00:44 |
| lyorian | ok 64 bit boots | 00:48 |
| lyorian | wierdly enough 32 bit boots to the old try Lubuntu / install lubuntu while 64 boots to only say start lubuntu | 00:48 |
| lyorian | something wierd is going on and I am thinking is that laptop booting off something it shouldn't be of a previous 64 bit image on the usb | 00:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: does accepting on phab automatically land it?], No. I wish, heh. | 00:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @kc2bez [@wxl What does it take to get the call for help posted on the Lubuntu Announceme …], I'll go ahead and give you access. | 00:54 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Huzzah, go for it. | 00:55 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Cool, I'll get it posted. | 00:55 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Appreciate it! | 00:56 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> It's hot! | 00:58 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I just wanted to say, especially to our newer contributors like @kc2bez, @TheWendyPower, Wafficus, @HMollerCl, and anyone else I'm missing, you all are doing really great! I'm suffering through a personal illness at the moment and so I've been very in and out, but all of you are really helping in the ways that matter and I appreciate | 00:58 |
| lubot | it. | 00:58 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> And of course wxl knows I love him long time, so 'nuff said. XD | 00:59 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Happy to help really. Trying to get up to speed, Ill get there eventually, I appreciate the guidance. I hope you feel better soon. | 01:00 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> Hope you feel better soon. Thanks for being so nice to the newbies who are learing as we go. | 01:01 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Thanks; we all go through the beginners phase when starting out, and it's hard at first, but once you find your groove, what you like/dislike doing, and whatever else, it makes it a lot more enjoyable. | 01:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [Hope you feel better soon. Thanks for being so nice to the newbies who are leari …], Of course! If you have any questions, although wxl might be in a better condition recently to answer them, I'll be more than happy to help. :) | 01:02 |
| lyorian | hmm i386 boots on virt manager | 01:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Help is Needed Testing 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Beta! ... The Lubuntu team development team has been working hard on getting the 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Beta ready and needs your help! ... With the switch from the LXDE desktop environment to the LXQt desktop environment there is a great amount of te | 01:08 |
| lubot | sting still needed. We need you to explore and report any bugs that you find. ... The release schedule for Cosmic Cuttlefish can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseSchedule ... The Lubuntu wiki page for testing can be found here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/testing/ ... Thank you on behalf of the Lubuntu QA Team. | 01:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Looking good 💪 | 01:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @lyorian [<lyorian> hmm i386 boots on virt manager], Wait, what o_O i386 boots to the old Try Lubuntu / Install Lubuntu? | 01:09 |
| Wafficus | dir | 01:13 |
| Wafficus | hey weird question about testing btw, regarding lubuntu and ubuntu | 01:14 |
| Wafficus | I can install the latest Ubuntu release onto a flash drive, and just "test" it without installing it onto the machine right/ | 01:14 |
| Wafficus | I ask because I have a good Windows gaming pc that I could use to do this, but don't want to erase any pre-existing harddrive data | 01:14 |
| lubot | <BigDaddyLinux> @tsimonq2 [Help is Needed Testing 18.10 Cosmic Cuttlefish Beta! ... The Lubuntu team developme …], After the distro challenge is over, I'm all over it | 01:16 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @BigDaddyLinux [After the distro challenge is over, I'm all over it], Huzzah :D | 01:17 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @Wafficus [<Wafficus> I ask because I have a good Windows gaming pc that I could use to do …], Ya, yo can test the live USB. | 01:19 |
| Wafficus | Sweet, I'll try that this weekend. is there anything in particular that I should do, or just use it normally right? | 01:21 |
| Wafficus | weird question, but is it possible to "save" my progress in the flash drive too? | 01:21 |
| Wafficus | I've never done that before hence why I ask. Makes me wanna get a ton of flash drives haha | 01:21 |
| lyorian | tsimonq2: for some reason I was reporting a bug buit then got distracted finding anime on what was a laptop was my brother orignally then passed down to my dad and now basically I can use it. | 01:45 |
| lyorian | bug 1794639 | 01:46 |
| ubot93 | Bug 1794639 in lubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "plymouth-theme for lubuntu 18.10 shows try lubuntu/ install lubuntu while amd 64 shows start lubuntu" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794639 | 01:46 |
| wxl | lyorian: do you see the art on i386? | 01:58 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGce6cce666053: initial commit thanks to @kc2bez] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGce6cce666053 | 02:41 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAb7b77fc9e4b4: rearranged depends] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAb7b77fc9e4b4 | 04:26 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA01d09fae56d1: removed optional depends] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA01d09fae56d1 | 04:26 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAf797aa5cad75: nearing completion on depends] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAf797aa5cad75 | 04:26 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAd039c2870397: added qtkeychain plugin] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAd039c2870397 | 04:26 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAd2a4a91a8f2c: update stanards version] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAd2a4a91a8f2c | 04:31 | |
| wxl | so @tsimonq2 trojita needs this section https://cgit.kde.org/trojita.git/tree/CMakeLists.txt#n92 to work correctly with the the 0.7 (last release) version of trojita and the CURRENT state of gpgmepp (see https://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2018/01/msg00579.html) so should i just patch and make 0.7-0ubuntu1 the initial version? | 04:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> so @tsimonq2 trojita needs this section https://cgit.kde.org/trojita.git/t …], Does CMake treat the dependency as optional? | 05:00 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: yes but my intention is to include all depends | 05:00 |
| wxl | optional or not | 05:00 |
| wxl | also this supports encryption and that would be nice | 05:01 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: yes but my intention is to include all depends], That isn't always possible, and this is a... Fidgety dep to get working correctly. Ask acheronuk. :P | 05:01 |
| wxl | it's not fidgety at all | 05:01 |
| wxl | the long story short is that upstream gpgme rolled the qt bindings into their code | 05:01 |
| wxl | so basically kde gpgmepp is dead | 05:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I can't think of a better word to describe the dep just not being picked up by CMake. | 05:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But go on. | 05:02 |
| wxl | that bit in the current master of trojita first checks to see if gpgme 1.8.0+ is installed | 05:02 |
| wxl | if it is, then depend satisfied | 05:02 |
| wxl | if not, then it looks for the old crap | 05:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> What version do we have? | 05:03 |
| wxl | 1.11 | 05:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah man, I'm not in a good state to give you a definite answer right now. acheronuk will surely know when he gets up. | 05:04 |
| wxl | the question is less about the depends and more about a more general question | 05:04 |
| wxl | if a patch just makes everything work, is there anything bad about making the initial release a patched version? | 05:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Nope | 05:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Not bad at all | 05:05 |
| wxl | done and done then | 05:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Love you long time | 05:05 |
| wxl | so long | 05:05 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAdf697cac6531: made gameplan for gpgmepp] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAdf697cac6531 | 05:08 | |
| lyorian | I am having trouble with i386 booting on 64 bit systems and I don't have i386 hardware that handy would have to plug things in on the really loud ineffiecient dell and can't run in native aspect ratio dimension 3000 dells so not sure I can test 32 bit | 05:25 |
| lyorian | really sucks and not sure my USBs are all being wierd | 05:25 |
| lyorian | is i386 still bootable on amd64 hardware? | 05:26 |
| wxl | should be lyorian | 05:36 |
| lyorian | ok might just either be a bad dd with one certain laptop as now I have my mom's amd acer booted to the live session | 05:37 |
| lyorian | I hope I have not dded some of my usbs to death which is what I thought the origanl problem was | 05:48 |
| lyorian | wxl I did get i386 to boot on another laptop until I knocked my usb flash drive while it was being plugged in and now it was not detected | 05:56 |
| lyorian | RIP | 05:56 |
| wxl | ooooooooooops | 05:57 |
| wxl | i can't believe the great progress i'm making with trojita | 05:57 |
| wxl | i might actually get this done soon!!! XD | 05:57 |
| lyorian | well at least I know it isn't all amd64 host systems that can't boot i386 I don't know why my one hp core 2 duo model won't | 05:59 |
| wxl | that's weird | 06:00 |
| wxl | might be some strange cpu flag | 06:00 |
| lyorian | wxl and I have booted 32 live images off that a ton of times before | 06:04 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA18617670de06: depends updated for compile time crypto depends] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA18617670de06 | 06:20 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA0189539607c4: patches added and home stretch!] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA0189539607c4 | 06:20 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAa77d01f89a3a: to paraphrase Hermione Granger, it's trojiTA not troJIta] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAa77d01f89a3a | 06:30 | |
| wxl | ^ +1 multiplier for Harry Potter reference in a git commit message | 06:30 |
| * wxl is a wizard | 06:30 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS8f59bc93c1dc: Translated using Weblate (Greek)] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS8f59bc93c1dc | 06:35 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927) | 08:03 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927) | 08:03 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Final stretch, folks! | 10:52 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Test, test, test! :) | 10:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl @TheWendyPower changelog entry in pab are added the same way as launchpad? | 11:46 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> dch -i ? | 11:47 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @HMollerCl if I understand correctly, then yes. It can be ... dch -i new entry ... dch -a add to existing entry | 11:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> thanks | 11:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl you said I need to add changelog to lubuntu-seed. But there is no debian/changelog in the tree. | 12:39 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://git.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/lubuntu/tree/ | 12:39 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/ | 12:40 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> Okay I have updated with a changelog entry. | 13:09 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'v added changelog to lubuntu-artwork and lubuntu-default seetings and reverted from Fusion to Breeze. But I haven't add changelog to lubuntu-seed because it does not has debian/changelog | 13:37 |
| wxl[m] | Sounds good @HMollerCl I think I see just on autopilot | 14:33 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Sounds good @HMollerCl I think I see just on autopilot], so, there is no need for changelog on lubuntu-seed? | 14:50 |
| wxl | right | 14:51 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I saw in the seed that you are including libreoffice-kde5 but not libreoffice-gtk3. I think they work great together. | 14:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/browse/cosmic/desktop$104 | 14:53 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> also, normally changelog should be added in first arc diff or after review? | 14:56 |
| wxl | yeah well we're trying to get rid of as much gtk as possible | 14:56 |
| wxl | normally the changelog should be included initially, but obviously can be included later :) | 14:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> 'sup party people. | 15:02 |
| wxl | hey | 15:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> How's that Beta chugging along, yo? | 15:04 |
| wxl | tsimonq2: we had all tests for amd64, no bugs. now we're 1/2. we had at least 1 i386 but now have zero. stupid respin happened at like 2am or so your time | 15:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Hi @tsimonq2 feeling better now? | 15:07 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> yeah well we're trying to get rid of as much gtk as possible], I don't see any benefit in installing libreoffice-kde5 w/o libreoffice-gtk. At least in my installation I don't see it. | 15:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> *gtk3 | 15:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> tsimonq2: we had all tests for amd64, no bugs. now we're 1/2. we had at le …], I'd call amd64 good on the simple fact that very very little should have changed and we have mostly passing results in what was completely passing before. i386 is a different story; completion there would be nice. | 15:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [Hi @tsimonq2 feeling better now?], Not quite yet, but I'm feeling slightly better. | 15:09 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: please arc land this or tell me how to get the stupid thing to authorize to launchpad correctly https://phab.lubuntu.me/D19 | 15:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: please arc land this or tell me how to get the stupid thing to …], Ack. | 15:16 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower and @HMollerCl comments added | 15:20 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> wxl: Are we going to call it on i386, man? | 15:58 |
| * wxl shrugs | 15:58 | |
| wxl | perhaps not releasing beta will get people to test final | 15:58 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> The Release Team is pretty clear on "what gets released in Beta gets released in Final, no more, no less, unless there is extenuating circumstances." | 15:59 |
| wxl | i'd say extenuating circumstances, maybe | 16:00 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So, I mean, go ahead and try to convince Adam, since that's who asked me, but I doubt his answer will be yes. | 16:00 |
| wxl | well too bad so sad then | 16:00 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl there is a problem when cloning lubuntu-default-seetings it brings me bionic changelog | 16:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> this url ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/lubuntu-default-settings.git | 16:05 |
| wxl | you're in the wrong branch then | 16:05 |
| wxl | `git checkout ubuntu/cosmic` | 16:05 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2018-September/001354.html | 16:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> that url I got from here, which says ubuntu/cosmic on top https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/ | 16:06 |
| wxl | that url doesn't include the branch | 16:06 |
| wxl | and never ever assume which branch you're on | 16:06 |
| wxl | especially based on what the web interface shows | 16:06 |
| wxl | that's advise i'd give you regardless of whether or not you're viewing it on launchpad, phabricator, cgit, github, etc. | 16:07 |
| wxl | this is why the tutorial says to git checkout | 16:07 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ok,got it. to change branch checkout is the command? | 16:07 |
| wxl | `git checkout ubuntu/cosmic` | 16:07 |
| acheronuk | git aware bash prompt helps | 16:07 |
| wxl | that too | 16:07 |
| wxl | but better safe than sorry | 16:08 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2018-September/ …], Ack | 16:08 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> and after git checkout anything else? | 16:08 |
| wxl | do work like normal | 16:08 |
| wxl | see my note about how to move changes over | 16:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2018-September/ …], Toot (thus tweeting) please. | 16:09 |
| wxl | tooted | 16:12 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> ack | 16:12 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> see my note about how to move changes over], apparently git patch doesn't exist, will do de patch manually | 16:15 |
| wxl | git diff i meant | 16:15 |
| wxl | off to work | 16:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: ⚠ i386 Lubuntu in danger of disappearing. URGENT help needed! ⚠ ... https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1045345732465573888?s=19 ... https://t.co/Wni2NqM8vP | 17:02 |
| lubot | <SivaMachina> No maintainers with 32 bit hardware? | 17:05 |
| tsimonq2 | Not anymore. | 17:11 |
| wxl | hey hey can anyone in a non-US country do me a favor and give me the average results of running this several times `/usr/bin/time -f '%e' /path/to/this/script` where the script is here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/h6k9h4wYTS/ | 17:38 |
| Wafficus | hey guys, with that response from Calamares, do you think its worth pursuing to see if we can fork their netinstall module, or do we have to create a series of radio buttons via our own PyQt module like they suggested? | 17:39 |
| wxl | Wafficus: if we can change the face of the netinstall module, that would be cool, but tbh either is potentially reasonable | 17:40 |
| Wafficus | wxl: that would involve the .ui section correct? This is me as a total qt beginner asking | 17:40 |
| Wafficus | wxl: I got those examples working btw in that guide, but with qmake | 17:41 |
| Wafficus | * and make | 17:41 |
| wxl | that is my understanding, yes | 17:41 |
| Wafficus | wouldn't it be just a matter of adding a few <input> html tags in that case? | 17:41 |
| Wafficus | <input type="radio"></input> | 17:42 |
| wxl | possibly maybe, but logic will likely need to be changed too | 17:42 |
| Wafficus | so when it comes to kind of forking this idea, should I fork it, get it working normally, and then slowly modify it right? | 17:42 |
| Wafficus | like, would Calamares work in a normal setting without actually having to install an OS? | 17:42 |
| wxl | yep | 17:42 |
| Wafficus | Okay, I'll see if I can run it successfully later on its own later tonight on my laptop, and then dig into that netinstall module for that .ui file to see what section needs those <input> tags | 17:43 |
| Wafficus | I imagine it would just be as simple as running ./Calamares right? | 17:43 |
| Wafficus | or just concentrate on just getting the net install module section to run in its own window right? | 17:44 |
| wxl | i mean you'll need to compile it, but yes | 17:45 |
| Wafficus | sorry to ask to specify which question you answered but you meant just the net install module? | 17:45 |
| wxl | and "normal setting" but without an OS is what? um... XD | 17:45 |
| wxl | the module will not run easily on its own | 17:46 |
| wxl | so you need Calamares too | 17:46 |
| lyorian | How much time Do I have left do I really need to bust out the old dell dimension 3000 | 17:48 |
| tsimonq2 | Just marked as ready... BUT, for the final release, we still do need testers. | 17:49 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready | 17:49 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready | 17:49 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> hey hey can anyone in a non-US country do me a favor and give me the avera …], what do you mean with several? | 17:49 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I got numbers between 1,2 and 0,61 | 17:50 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> average shoudl be aroun 0,7 | 17:50 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl that works | 17:52 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: note that @HMollerCl's results were, at worst, 4x greater in terms of time to get the country from the API | 17:53 |
| wxl | actually i wonder if it fails | 17:54 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: My major concern right now is getting this Beta out, and this "works for now" soooo | 17:54 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 17:54 |
| wxl | it should | 17:55 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: well that doesn't mean we should ignore the isuee | 17:56 |
| tsimonq2 | I agree with you. | 17:56 |
| wxl | oh maybe it's the mirrorlist that filsx | 17:57 |
| wxl | nope. definitely country | 17:57 |
| wxl | i should get wafficus on that given it's python. should be pretty easy | 18:01 |
| tsimonq2 | True. | 18:01 |
| wxl | something like https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8763451/how-to-handle-urllibs-timeout-in-python-3/52375450#52375450 seems like a good direction to go in | 18:04 |
| wxl | it has a timeout and attempts to handle timeout errors as well as general url and http errors | 18:04 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: i note lubuntu packages team isn't surprised to calamares-settings-ubuntu. we should probably get that resolved | 18:06 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED88a1c6dd3455: added breeze theme package] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED88a1c6dd3455 | 18:41 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @lugito [<lugito> 3[ 13rSEED88a1c6dd3455: added breeze theme package 3] 15tsimonq2 ( …], good, when will the iso with that changes be available? Today? | 18:44 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [good, when will the iso with that changes be available? Today?], Not with the beta, but for the next daily. | 18:46 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> so daily of 28sept. Normally dailies where going out at 17:00. The today one says 8:00. (i assume that time is my local time in GMT -3) looking it in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/ | 18:48 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGbdfa1204d985: Import changes from the archive.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGINGbdfa1204d985 | 18:48 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [so daily of 28sept. Normally dailies where going out at 17:00. The today one say …], Yes. | 18:49 |
| acheronuk | hmmm. you may as well just add kubuntu-desktop to your seed at this rate... ;) | 19:08 |
| * acheronuk hides | 19:08 | |
| wxl | bah, we're proud not to have baloo, akonadi, or pim in general | 19:08 |
| wxl | NOT TO MENTION THOSE STUPID CASHEWS | 19:08 |
| wxl | ;) | 19:08 |
| wxl | and don't get me started on activities | 19:09 |
| acheronuk | I like cashews. salted ones | 19:11 |
| wxl | unfortunately the one in kubuntu is salty in its own way.... :/ | 19:13 |
| acheronuk | can be made to go away quite easily | 19:17 |
| genii | wxl: Now I'm trying to figure out if you're dissing Kubuntu or not .... | 19:21 |
| wxl | genii: as a user and contributor of kubuntu, i have every right to complain about aspects of it :) | 19:22 |
| acheronuk | we will eventually converge on 'klubuntu' | 19:22 |
| genii | hah | 19:22 |
| wxl | klaatubuntu | 19:23 |
| tsimonq2 | *gargles mouthwash* buntu | 19:23 |
| wxl | i will give credit to anyone who gets that reference | 19:23 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> What's cashew i googled it and only found entries for "killing the cashew" or similar | 19:24 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://www.google.com/search?q=cashew+kde&client=ubuntu&hs=Pme&channel=fs&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQ0tr389vdAhXDkZAKHZP-DAcQ_AUICSgA&biw=1360&bih=692&dpr=1 | 19:24 |
| wxl | and given a reasonable time, will happily provide a brief hint | 19:24 |
| tsimonq2 | A cashew is a nut but don't google that either. ;) | 19:24 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl it's a theoretical kubuntu "feature" | 19:24 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> A cashew is a nut but don't google that either. ;)], duckduckgo where less hilarious, only said "remove cashew" | 19:25 |
| wxl | NO ONE GETS IT? | 19:26 |
| wxl | ok, here's your clue: "barada nikto" | 19:27 |
| wxl | this is embarassing | 19:27 |
| wxl | none of you are allowed to say you're a science fiction fan | 19:28 |
| tsimonq2 | Dude, wtf are you on about XD | 19:28 |
| tsimonq2 | I figured out what you're talking about but like... wassap? :) | 19:28 |
| wxl | the reference made in "klaatubuntu" | 19:29 |
| tsimonq2 | The full phrase is "klaatu barada nikto" innit? | 19:29 |
| wxl | yep | 19:30 |
| tsimonq2 | ...and? XD | 19:30 |
| wxl | it's what you need to say to gort to keep him from destroying the world | 19:30 |
| wxl | and klaatu is an alien ambassador, so... | 19:30 |
| wxl | just nevermind. | 19:31 |
| wxl | go back to the no fun box | 19:31 |
| tsimonq2 | ...what the hell. XD | 19:31 |
| tsimonq2 | Dude, you kraaaaaaazy. | 19:31 |
| tsimonq2 | >_> | 19:31 |
| wxl | you've never seen the movie so it doesn't count anyways | 19:31 |
| wxl | Congratulations and welcome to the Bike Friday community. It was nice talking with you about your upcoming Bike Friday and thanks for the order. | 19:32 |
| wxl | I have your completed bike design & invoice information for you in the attachments; please review to be sure all parts, sizing, and accessories are listed as you expect them. Everything looks good on this end. | 19:32 |
| wxl | Your bike should ship within a plus or minus five business day window of DATE. Note Ground shipping is usually 5-7 additional business days. You will get a tracking number from us automatically when it's on the way. If we run into a situation where we are unable to make your promise date, we'll contact you. Otherwise, assume your bike order is proceeding like normal. | 19:32 |
| wxl | An important consideration about timing: once your bicycle begins the production process, any changes made closer than 3 weeks from your ship date may not be possible. The things we can change for you we will but it may result in a service charge if it requires someone's time away from other tasks to expedite it through. If you need to make any changes or add anything, please let me know as soon as | 19:32 |
| wxl | possible. | 19:32 |
| wxl | ugh | 19:32 |
| wxl | nooooooooooo | 19:32 |
| wxl | sorry | 19:32 |
| acheronuk | o.O | 19:32 |
| tsimonq2 | It's Bike Friday Walter, everybaaaawdddddyyyyy! | 19:33 |
| wxl | i sell bikes. come buy one | 19:34 |
| tsimonq2 | bikefriday.com | 19:34 |
| acheronuk | wxl: I'll look at that bluez thing tomorrow and do a test build to make sure it does nothing odd to KDE (it shouldn't) | 19:34 |
| tsimonq2 | #shamelesspromotion | 19:34 |
| acheronuk | I hadn't completely forgot | 19:34 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: DUDE YOU SHOULD TOTES BUY bikefridaywalter.com AND MAKE A REDIR OMG | 19:34 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGec35faabb4cb: Rename the directory.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGec35faabb4cb | 19:37 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGdd859b13cb56: Initial copy.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGdd859b13cb56 | 19:37 | |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Rate my blog post updates. | 19:37 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGING41889cc0fa43: Upload to Cosmic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGING41889cc0fa43 | 19:45 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @TheWendyPower don't you think that inactive windows button (close toogle maximize, iconify) doesn't look good in Lubuntu Arc? I mean, you can't see them. | 19:45 |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.10 => 1.11] (lubuntu) | 19:47 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rART9eb34169925e: changing border color of active window to blue and window border to 2] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rART9eb34169925e | 19:54 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-artwork (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.7 => 1.8] (lubuntu) | 20:00 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @queuebot> Unapproved: lubuntu-artwork (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.7 = [<queuebot> Unapproved: lubuntu-artwork (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.7 => 1.8] ( …], @tsimonq2 not sure what is the status here. | 20:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It's now waiting in a queue for the Ubuntu Release Team to approve. | 20:09 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I'll nag^Mask Adam after the Beta is out. :) | 20:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> thanks! | 20:11 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> No, thank you. :) | 20:12 |
| wxl[m] | First few commits are always the most exciting ones. Good job @HMollerCl and @TheWendyPower 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 | 20:20 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> First few commits are always the most exciting ones. Good job @HMollerC …], thanks!! | 20:21 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [No, thank you. :)], thank you, I've been using Lubuntu sin 2016. | 20:21 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> *since | 20:21 |
| tsimonq2 | +100000000000000000000 wxl[m] :) | 20:21 |
| wxl | acheronuk: cool, thanks! | 20:26 |
| wxl | acheronuk: if we can get that in before final that'd be cool | 20:26 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: "Welcome to LXQt" already love it | 20:26 |
| tsimonq2 | I did keep a lot of what Dan had, so kudos for a great start on that. :) | 20:27 |
| wxl | i know big kudos | 20:27 |
| wxl | make sure to include thank yous | 20:27 |
| wxl | and maybe include links directly the lubuntu-devel stuff under the how to help bit | 20:28 |
| wxl | and the file bug link against lubuntu.. seems weird, but ok | 20:28 |
| tsimonq2 | What do you have in mind wxl? | 20:28 |
| wxl | for? | 20:28 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> What you just suggested. | 20:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Ideally we can just build up a wiki page. | 20:29 |
| wxl | for the links? | 20:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah. | 20:32 |
| wxl | i mean we could do that | 20:33 |
| wxl | we could just include links: Telegram, Matrix, IRC, mailing list | 20:33 |
| tsimonq2 | Right. | 20:42 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: Wanna tweak that or you want me to? | 20:42 |
| wxl | if you have half a brain, please do | 20:42 |
| tsimonq2 | Starting to slip into "no-brain" soooo I'll make this change and wrap things up. | 20:43 |
| wxl | k | 20:43 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @HMollerCl are you having issues with 'arc land' on the lubuntu-default-settings? I'm still gettiing 403 error with it being approved. | 20:44 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower do you have permissions? | 20:44 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @TheWendyPower [@HMollerCl are you having issues with 'arc land' on the lubuntu-default-settings …], I haven't arc land | 20:45 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> I must not, but I thought @tsimonq2 fixed that. | 20:45 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ed | 20:45 |
| tsimonq2 | I'll move lubuntu-default-settings over to Phab once and for all. | 20:45 |
| tsimonq2 | Sec. | 20:45 |
| wxl | oh THAT'S why | 20:45 |
| tsimonq2 | Yessiree. | 20:45 |
| wxl | omg the cosmic freaking containers are back to no networking again aiiigh | 20:46 |
| * wxl rips out hair in chunks | 20:46 | |
| tsimonq2 | JUST UPGRADE TO COSMIC ALREADY, DAMN IT! | 20:46 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 20:46 |
| wxl | that's not the issue, dude | 20:46 |
| wxl | it's a fundamental aspect of the container images themselves | 20:47 |
| wxl | anyways it doesn't matter because i can't use 2222 at work anyways | 20:47 |
| wxl | so back to that server space.... | 20:47 |
| tsimonq2 | dude, sloooow down :) | 20:47 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 I don't think @wxl can! | 20:48 |
| tsimonq2 | This is TOTALLY the opposite compared to how it's always been, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. | 20:49 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> This is the same guy yht told you to go back to the no fun box. ;) | 20:49 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower hey he's the one chewing on crabby patties | 20:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Huh? :) | 20:50 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> Yopu two crack me up! | 20:50 |
| wxl | hah you should see us in person | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | EXACTLY> | 20:50 |
| tsimonq2 | omg. | 20:50 |
| wxl | https://i.pinimg.com/originals/84/d4/cd/84d4cdb3f9b72b9249dfc076b602cfac.gif | 20:51 |
| wxl | i'm the one with the cool hat | 20:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Accurate. | 20:51 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: By the way, I'm totally about to piss Raf off by screwing up his downloads page. XD | 20:52 |
| wxl | i'm pretty sure i'm not the doctor https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/2/27/14/anigif_enhanced-buzz-18830-1361994497-6.gif | 20:53 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I just found out, that with the wrong branch issue, have a mistake in the filename in https://phab.lubuntu.me/D17 is lxqt-config-appearance.conf can hay arc diff over it now that it is accepted? | 20:54 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl it's not closed, so feel free. Also clear up the confusion between D17 and D20 as they seem to be the same thing | 20:55 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> yes, I supposed to have close D20. | 20:56 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG2cb10368e295: Fix some more links.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG2cb10368e295 | 21:05 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: rejected lubuntu-meta [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.10] | 21:24 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.11] | 21:24 | |
| wxl | we don't need this for the beta but let's get screenshots in the final release announcement | 21:42 |
| wxl | soemthing flashy | 21:42 |
| tsimonq2 | I just tried. | 21:42 |
| tsimonq2 | For ten freaking minutes. | 21:42 |
| tsimonq2 | I SUCK AT THEM. | 21:42 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 21:42 |
| wxl | dude | 21:42 |
| wxl | remember we already learned this | 21:42 |
| wxl | let @TheWendyPower do it! | 21:42 |
| wxl | we don't need it now, though | 21:42 |
| wxl | later | 21:42 |
| tsimonq2 | We learned what? THAT A BLACK BOOTUP SCREEN IS BETTER THAN A FUZZY ONE? >_> | 21:42 |
| wxl | put it on the 18.10 needs | 21:42 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 21:43 |
| wxl | bah, that's a technical error, not an artistic one | 21:43 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 21:43 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @wxl @tsimonq2 I need to do some anyway. I was waiting until I was 1000% sure on all the theme stuff first. ;) | 21:48 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> Let me know when I can 'arc land' as it still doen't like me. | 21:49 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVE984d96d2bca5: DSC file for 1.11] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVE984d96d2bca5 | 23:36 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEcdb422531717: Import patches-unapplied version 1.11 to ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEcdb422531717 | 23:36 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVE3580efe395b7: Import patches-applied version 1.11 to applied/ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVE3580efe395b7 | 23:36 | |
| Wafficus | hey wxl i'm here | 23:55 |
| wxl | Wafficus: hey! | 23:55 |
| Wafficus | I've been following that guide a little bit more today botw | 23:55 |
| wxl | so i know you've been hitting the qt hard lately | 23:55 |
| wxl | much appreciated | 23:55 |
| wxl | but i found a project you might want to take on that's right up your alley. way easier | 23:55 |
| wxl | it's python, too | 23:55 |
| Wafficus | sweet | 23:55 |
| wxl | interested? | 23:55 |
| Wafficus | yeah whatcha got | 23:56 |
| Wafficus | sounds cool | 23:56 |
| wxl | ok see this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/+bug/1794844 | 23:56 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1794844 in calamares-settings-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Calamares crashes in calamares/modules/automirror/main.py in run() country = getcountry() with urlopen error [Errno 0] Error" [Undecided, New] | 23:56 |
| wxl | long story short for some reason when running an api call to get the country of a particular user, there's a fail | 23:56 |
| wxl | the code doesn't properly deal with error handling | 23:56 |
| wxl | that's all that needs to be fixed basically | 23:56 |
| wxl | a little try/except stuff and perhaps a sane timeout might make a big difference | 23:56 |
| wxl | so pretty simple | 23:57 |
| wxl | this revolves around an ubuntu-specific calamares module called automirror | 23:58 |
| wxl | you can see the code here https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/common/modules/automirror/ | 23:58 |
| wxl | and right here is your problem child https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/common/modules/automirror/main.py$85 | 23:58 |
| Wafficus | ok gotcha, basically the code needs to be looked at for try and accept causes regarding French laungage installations | 23:58 |
| Wafficus | ok i'll check em both out | 23:58 |
| wxl | not necessarily french | 23:58 |
| wxl | i think the problem faced that french user because they're not in the US where ipapi is | 23:59 |
| wxl | which is why we (all in the US) never really saw the problem | 23:59 |
| wxl | i'm not sure if it's a timeout issue or not | 23:59 |
| wxl | but with proper error handling we can figure it out | 23:59 |
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