[01:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: webkit2gtk (cosmic-proposed/main) [2.22.2-1 => 2.22.2-1ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[01:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: evolution (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.30.0-1 => 3.30.1-1] (ubuntukylin) (sync)
[01:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libsoup2.4 (cosmic-proposed/main) [2.64.0-2 => 2.64.1-1] (core) (sync)
[01:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libdazzle (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.30.0-2 => 3.30.1-1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
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[04:56] <cpaelzer> anybody around here that could unblock ocfs2 via accepting https://code.launchpad.net/~paelzer/britney/hints-ubuntu-ocfs2-cosmic-bump/+merge/355482
[05:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pylint-django (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.11-1 => 2.0.1-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[05:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: pylint2 (cosmic-proposed/primary) [1.9.2-2]
[05:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pylint-django [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [2.0.1-1]
[05:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pytest-pylint (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.9.0-2ubuntu3 => 0.12.3-1] (no packageset) (sync)
[05:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pytest-pylint [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [0.12.3-1]
[05:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-mines (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:3.30.0-1 => 1:3.30.1.1-1] (ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[05:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: pylint (cosmic-proposed/universe) [2.1.1-1 => 2.1.1-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[05:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pylint [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [2.1.1-2]
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[06:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: pylint2 (cosmic-proposed/primary) [1.9.2-2]
[06:28] <valorie> dang it, still no respin?
[06:33] <infinity> valorie: There was a hiccup with some kde autopkgtests, it seems.  They're passing on retry now.
[06:33] <valorie> cool
[06:33] <valorie> too late for me though
[06:33] <valorie> nearly midnight here
[06:34] <valorie> I guess the europeans will have to do the testing
[06:34] <infinity> I think they promised they would anyway.
[06:34] <infinity> I'm going to respin in a few minutes, actually, when mesa publishes (it's migrated)
[06:36] <tjaalton> \o/
[06:38] <valorie> yay!
[06:43] <wxl> still planning on releasing thursdady @infinity ?
[06:47] <infinity> wxl: Don't see why not.  Thursday has 23 hours left in it for me.  More for Hawaii.
[06:48] <infinity> (is "thursdady" a nickname for Odin?)
[06:48] <wxl> don't make me slap you
[06:49] <wxl> instead i'll quote you: "we're releasing no earlier than midnight thursday, hawaii time" XD
[06:49] <infinity> I said no such thing.
[06:49] <infinity> Now if you said "no later than", that might work.
[06:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[06:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base arm64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[06:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base armhf [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[06:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base i386 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[06:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base ppc64el [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[06:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base s390x [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[06:58] <wxl> ah, paraphrase/quote what's the difference XD
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server arm64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server ppc64el [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server s390x [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:20] <jibel> infinity, the "black screen on boot" issue could be the plymouth crash in bug 1794292
[07:20] <ubot5> bug 1794292 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in /sbin/plymouthd:11 in ply_renderer_set_handler_for_input_source -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_renderer_input -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_input -> ply_device_manager_deactivate_keyboards -> on_deactivate" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794292
[07:21] <infinity> jibel: Could be.  Definitely too late to sort that one.
[07:21] <infinity> jibel: But respins for the mesa thing are in progress.
[07:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server armhf+raspi2 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:27] <jibel> right
[07:27] <jibel> I still haven't found what triggers it
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop i386 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:51] <LocutusOfBorg> please accept llvm-toolchain-7, it brings back the ocaml binding, and fixes a nasty bug with the clang sanitizer
[07:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: llvm-toolchain-7 (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:7-2 => 1:7-3] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop) (sync)
[07:52]  * willcooke starts iso testing
[07:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[07:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-initial-setup (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.29.92-1ubuntu2 => 3.29.92-1ubuntu3] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntugnome)
[07:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ukui-panel (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.1.3-0ubuntu1 => 1.1.4-1] (ubuntukylin) (sync)
[08:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ukui-panel (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.1.3-0ubuntu1 => 1.1.4-1] (ubuntukylin) (sync)
[08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[08:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[08:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libxkbcommon (bionic-proposed/main) [0.8.0-1 => 0.8.2-1~ubuntu18.04.1] (core, xorg)
[08:06] <handsome_feng> mapreri: Thanks! :)
[08:07] <mapreri> o/
[08:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Server Subiquity amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[08:09] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[08:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: unity-greeter (cosmic-proposed/universe) [18.04.0+18.04.20180314.1-0ubuntu2 => 18.04.0+18.10.20180926-0ubuntu1] (mythbuntu) (sync)
[08:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[08:20] <mapreri> I could do with somebody processing src:pylint2 from new, btw.
[08:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927)
[08:55] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, is it possible to demote llvm-toolchain-6.0 from main to universe?
[08:55] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, ^^ maybe you can?
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[09:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: celery (cosmic-proposed/universe) [4.2.1-1fakesync1 => 4.2.1-2fakesync1] (no packageset)
[09:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted celery [source] (cosmic-proposed) [4.2.1-2fakesync1]
[09:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libguestfs (bionic-proposed/universe) [1:1.36.13-1ubuntu3.1 => 1:1.36.13-1ubuntu3.2] (no packageset)
[09:37] <doko> LocutusOfBorg: please could you figure out why so many llvm 7 packages want to promote? more than want demote in 6
[09:37] <doko> e.g. lldb
[09:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3.7 (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.7.0-7ubuntu1 => 3.7.1~rc1-1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[09:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3.6 (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.6.6-4ubuntu1 => 3.6.7~rc1-1] (core)
[09:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: rejected pylint2 [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.9.2-2]
[09:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted pylint2 [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.9.2-2]
[09:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3.6 [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.6.7~rc1-1]
[09:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3.7 [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.7.1~rc1-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted atril [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.2-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted evolution [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-mines [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1:3.30.1.1-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libsoup2.4 [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [2.64.1-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-backgrounds [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.0-2]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-dock-applet [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [0.87-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-power-manager [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.2-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-themes [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.22.18-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pluma [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.2-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python-pbr [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [4.2.0-0ubuntu3]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted eom [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.1-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libdazzle [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-control-center [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.3-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-screensaver [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.2-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted pygments [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [2.2.0+dfsg-2]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected ukui-panel [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.1.4-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted unity-greeter [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [18.04.0+18.10.20180926-0ubuntu1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gdm3 [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1ubuntu1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-panel [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.3-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted restrictedpython [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [4.0~b3-2]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1:7-3]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ukui-panel [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.1.4-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-utils [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.1-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted marco [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.2-1]
[10:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mate-desktop [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1.20.3-2]
[10:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ostree [source] (bionic-proposed) [2018.8-0ubuntu0.1]
[10:22] <LocutusOfBorg> doko, where do you see it? lldb is generic... lldb-7? liblldb? which one?
[10:24] <LocutusOfBorg> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt
[10:24] <LocutusOfBorg> you mean there?
[10:33] <LocutusOfBorg> please let me know, I'll be afk soon
[10:33] <LocutusOfBorg> I need to understand the logic for that page... something in main requires lldb?
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: iwyu (cosmic-proposed/universe) [6.0-1 => 6.0-2] (no packageset) (sync)
[10:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted iwyu [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [6.0-2]
[10:53] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.7.5-1ubuntu16.4]
[11:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected zfs-linux [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.6.5.6-0ubuntu25]
[11:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted zfs-linux [source] (xenial-proposed) [0.6.5.6-0ubuntu25]
[11:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted flatpak [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.0.1-0ubuntu0.1]
[11:11] <LocutusOfBorg> can any AA please parse this to me?
[11:11] <LocutusOfBorg>  Binary only movements to main
[11:11] <LocutusOfBorg>  -----------------------------
[11:11] <LocutusOfBorg>  o libc++-7-dev libc++1-7 libc++abi-7-dev libc++abi1-7 liblld-7 liblld-7-dev libomp-7-dev libomp-7-doc libomp5-7 lld-7 llvm-7 llvm-7-dev llvm-7-doc llvm-7-examples llvm-7-runtime{llvm-toolchain-7}
[11:11] <LocutusOfBorg>    [Reverse-Depends: Rescued from llvm-toolchain-7, libc++-7-dev, libc++1-7, liblld-7-dev, libomp-7-dev, llvm-7, llvm-7-dev, llvm-7-examples]
[11:17] <LocutusOfBorg> nothing in main depends on any of the above libraries
[11:17] <LocutusOfBorg> can it be something in -proposed?
[11:19] <sil2100> cjwatson: hmm, maybe you'll know a bit more about this - ubuntustudio image build has failed because of the livefs build failing, but there's no build logs of it:
[11:19] <sil2100> cjwatson: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/cosmic/ubuntustudio/+build/146192
[11:20] <sil2100> cjwatson: I vaguely remember something like this before
[11:21] <mapreri> handsome_feng: for the fun of it, I've now filed a bug against that package :P
[11:25] <cjwatson> sil2100: That happens when the builder dies, the buildd-manager loses network connectivity to it, or something along those lines.  Our logs are inconclusive in this case and you should probably just re-request the build
[11:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-7 [s390x] (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:7-3] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[11:44] <sil2100> cjwatson: ok, thanks
[11:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted metacity [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:3.28.0-1ubuntu0.1]
[11:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-flashback [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.28.0-1ubuntu1.2]
[12:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected qemu [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:2.11+dfsg-1ubuntu7.6]
[12:10] <cpaelzer> sil2100: are you on SRU duty?
[12:10] <cpaelzer> wha was it rejected ... looking for mails
[12:11] <cpaelzer> sil2100: the message I got via mail is cut off
[12:11] <cpaelzer> the .changes file comes with 2 bugs that se...
[12:11] <cpaelzer> how does this continue ?
[12:12] <sil2100> cpaelzer: I continued on the bug ;)
[12:12] <sil2100> (stupid sru tooling)
[12:12] <cpaelzer> ok, reading there then ...
[12:12] <sil2100> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu/+bug/1789551/comments/20
[12:12] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 1789551 in qemu (Ubuntu Bionic) "qemu: CVE-2018-15746: seccomp: blacklist is not applied to all threads" [High,Triaged]
[12:13] <sil2100> cpaelzer: I can't review something that I can't have access to + the same for the tools, they won't be able to track the verification of those bugs
[12:13] <mapreri> handsome_feng: since BTS is currently not completely working and you didn't receive the report, https://bugs.debian.org/909729
[12:13] <ubot5> Debian bug 909729 in src:ukui-menus "ukui-menus: don't build-dep on all python3 versions without building for them all" [Important,Open]
[12:14] <cpaelzer> sil2100: the code is all upstream now, I think I can make the bugs public now
[12:14] <cpaelzer> sil2100: when IBM started things were partially secret still
[12:14] <cpaelzer> sil2100: both are public now
[12:14] <cpaelzer> sil2100: can you review it that way and accept from rejected
[12:15] <sil2100> cpaelzer: ok, thanks! I can, yes
[12:15] <cpaelzer> I happened to learn by bdmurray last week that "accept from rejected" is a thing that exists
[12:15] <sil2100> (if Brian fixed the bug we had with sru-review for rejected reviews)
[12:15] <cpaelzer> sil2100: if there is anything else with it ping me and we will sort it out
[12:15] <cpaelzer> sil2100: he tested with one of my bugs and it got accepted - not sure if he uploaded the fix thou
[12:15] <bdmurray> sil2100: I did!
[12:16] <bdmurray> sil2100: its fixed in r1188
[12:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted xorg-server-hwe-16.04 [source] (xenial-proposed) [2:1.19.6-1ubuntu4.1~16.04.1]
[12:17] <cpaelzer> general SRU question to you guys then, if a partner opened things as a private bug and other than in this case does not want it to become public what am I supposed to do then on the SRU upload?
[12:17] <cpaelzer> not mention the bug at all sounds stupid
[12:17] <bdmurray> Make a public bug without any private info?
[12:18] <cpaelzer> with some projects we created secondary bugs holding the public info and referring in the SRU to that - is that the preferred way?
[12:18] <sil2100> bdmurray: \o/
[12:18] <cpaelzer> bdmurray: ok your answer sounds like mine with 505 of the words :-)
[12:18] <cpaelzer> thanks
[12:18] <sil2100> Aaaaa, ok, we have a problem, the rejected queue has 2 uploads with the same version number
[12:19] <cpaelzer> sil2100: I can dput the same thing again if that helps sil2100
[12:19] <sil2100> cpaelzer: if you have it handy, please do, if not I can manually review it and approve through LP
[12:19] <sil2100> But that's usually error-prone
[12:19] <cpaelzer> it is all here, let me re-dput it
[12:20] <sil2100> Thanks!
[12:21] <acheronuk> sil2100: FYI, there is new KDE plasma point release SRU on the way
[12:21]  * acheronuk hides
[12:23] <acheronuk> will be testing ppa builds 1st, so maybe not for a day or 2
[12:23] <acheronuk> just giving fair warning ;)
[12:23] <cpaelzer> sil2100: took a minute to make sure this would not accidentially be a "different" 7.6 on my system - uploaded again
[12:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qemu (bionic-proposed/main) [1:2.11+dfsg-1ubuntu7.5 => 1:2.11+dfsg-1ubuntu7.6] (ubuntu-server, virt)
[12:24] <cpaelzer> here it is thanks queuebot
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: llvm-toolchain-7 [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:7-3] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[12:32] <sil2100> Thanks!
[12:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted qemu [source] (bionic-proposed) [1:2.11+dfsg-1ubuntu7.6]
[12:39] <cpaelzer> sil2100: thank you
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: mediawiki (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1:1.31.1-2 => 1:1.31.1-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[13:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted mediawiki [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [1:1.31.1-3]
[13:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[13:34] <ahasenack> is there a page that marks the state of these builds? Which ones are ready, etc?
[13:35]  * ahasenack checks the iso tracker
[13:37] <ahasenack> yep
[13:46] <sil2100> infinity: hey! I cancelled the stuck re-build request of the failed build of ubuntustudio and kicked a new one
[13:46] <sil2100> infinity: hopefully this time the builder won't die
[13:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: samba (xenial-proposed/main) [2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.16 => 2:4.3.11+dfsg-0ubuntu0.16.04.17] (core)
[13:50] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Netboot i386 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libsdl2 (cosmic-proposed/universe) [2.0.8+dfsg1-2ubuntu1 => 2.0.8+dfsg1-3ubuntu1] (kubuntu)
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[14:28] <LocutusOfBorg> libsdl2 is again multiarch ready ^^
[14:30]  * LocutusOfBorg would like to see ghc blacklisted
[14:31] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, ^^
[14:34] <cjwatson> auto-sync is in dry-run mode anyway, so that doesn't seem necessary
[14:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been updated (20180927.1)
[14:38] <LocutusOfBorg> cjwatson, I'm thinking wrt cosmic+1 and somebody syncing it "by mistake"
[14:39] <cjwatson> That seems like it would better be considered closer to the time
[14:39] <cjwatson> Anyway, it's pretty easy for any archive admin to do that nowadays, since it's a straightforward pair of sync-blacklist entries
[14:58] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[15:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:18.10.8 => 1:18.10.9] (core)
[15:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu8.5 => 2.02-2ubuntu8.6] (core)
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: linux-azure (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1018.18 => 4.18.0-1002.2] (kernel) (sync)
[15:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: linux-meta-azure (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.15.0.1018.18 => 4.18.0.1002.2] (kernel) (sync)
[15:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: linux-signed-azure (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1018.18 => 4.18.0-1002.2] (kernel) (sync)
[15:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed) [1:7-3]
[15:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted llvm-toolchain-7 [s390x] (cosmic-proposed) [1:7-3]
[15:57] <infinity> willcooke: Apparently, while I was napping, studio didn't build for infra reasons.  It exists now, but cutting it close.  Do you still have an army (is the army you?) ready to help?
[15:57]  * willcooke flexes
[15:58] <willcooke> infinity, no worries, we're about done on everything else
[15:58] <willcooke> sil2100 said he might help as well
[15:58] <willcooke> I'm downloading now
[15:58] <infinity> willcooke: You're my favourite manager-who-doesn't-manage-me ever.
[15:59] <willcooke> You're my favourite too
[15:59] <Laney> What.
[15:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tzdata (xenial-proposed/main) [2017c-0ubuntu0.16.04 => 2018e-0ubuntu0.16.04] (core)
[16:00] <willcooke> <furtive glances>
[16:01] <infinity> slangasek: ^-- That's your way of saying my "I'll do it today" wasn't soon enough? :P
[16:02] <slangasek> infinity: yeah you have more important things to do and I haven't been able to context switch away from it
[16:02] <tsimonq2> infinity: I think we're officially wrapping up shop for i386 in Lubuntu then. ENOTESTERS.
[16:02] <infinity> slangasek: Fair enough.  Enjoy testing it. :)
[16:02] <infinity> slangasek: Also, don't forget the ESM archive.
[16:02] <slangasek> infinity: testing? :P
[16:03] <infinity> Yep.
[16:03] <infinity> Testing good.
[16:03] <tsimonq2> (Well, besides jibel, but that isn't "active community interest" as much as it is jibel being nice.)
[16:03] <slangasek> infinity: I will follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#tzdata
[16:04] <infinity> slangasek: Oh, that was pitti's testing.  Maybe I should update it.  "if the package is different, you win" seems like a poor test.
[16:05] <slangasek> infinity: if you want me to do a different test, then yes, you should update it ;)
[16:05] <infinity> slangasek: My testing method is basically to spawn schroots for every supported release, update to current, check a current and future date output for a control TZ (say, my own), then past/current/future, crossing DST boundaries for changed TZs.  Record results.  Update to proposed.  Repeat.  See if results are expected.
[16:06] <infinity> slangasek: Basically, it means actually understanding upstream's changes, not just blindly updating and calling it good.
[16:06] <slangasek> k
[16:07] <infinity> slangasek: And yeah, please do precise ESM too.  Or I can $later, but it's much easier to do them all in bulk.
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[16:07] <slangasek> infinity: I'm not sure I'm able to upload to precise-esm, given the failures I've gotten before trying to process ESM kernel SRUs
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[16:08] <infinity> slangasek: Toss it in a PPA of your own, and I'll take it from there.
[16:08] <infinity> slangasek: Just so all your uploads match.
[16:08] <slangasek> ok
[16:08] <infinity> slangasek: (And test it from said PPA too before the hand-off)
[16:09] <slangasek> though I probably /ought/ to have ESM ppa publishing rights
[16:09] <infinity> slangasek: But also, we should fix the part where you might not have ESM access.  You should.
[16:09]  * slangasek nos
[16:09] <slangasek> nods
[16:09] <infinity> slangasek: You do...
[16:09] <infinity> Latest members
[16:09] <infinity>     Steve Langasek
[16:09] <infinity>     Łukasz Zemczak
[16:09] <infinity>     Canonical Kernel Security Team
[16:09] <slangasek> ok, possibly fixed since last time I tried to do a kernel?
[16:09] <infinity> Steve Langasek 2018-03-16 – Approved
[16:09] <infinity> Maybe?
[16:10] <slangasek> wasn't that long ago that I tried
[16:10] <slangasek> so I don't know why the kernel publishing failed
[16:10] <infinity> slangasek: Oh, maybe it was kernel process that tripped you up, with kernel-team-owned ESM PPAs on the way to the final PPA?
[16:10] <slangasek> yeah must be
[16:10] <infinity> slangasek: I'm just looking at *the* ESM PPA here.
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[16:30] <apw> slangasek, you short permissions on the 'proposed' ppa for ESM ?
[16:31] <apw> slangasek, no should be ok there too
[16:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted evolution-data-server [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1]
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[16:32] <slangasek> apw: ok, we'll see what happens next time I try to process an esm kernel
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[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: liblivemedia [s390x] (cosmic-proposed/universe) [2018.09.18-1] (kubuntu)
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[17:48] <tsimonq2> infinity: Looks like some people pulled through for i386.
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
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[17:50] <willcooke> infinity, studio testing all done, will be marked ready shortly
[17:50] <willcooke> (I think)
[17:52] <cyphermox> sil2100: bdmurray: either of you could have a look at the bionic queue? there's a lot of stuff in there (though I'm mostly interested in netplan.io, ledmon, grub2, grub2-signed, initramfs-tools)
[17:52] <cyphermox> ^ or anyone on the SRU team, for that matter
[17:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
[17:56] <sil2100> cyphermox: didn't manage to get to those yet!
[17:56] <sil2100> cyphermox: let me fetch one from the list then
[18:00] <sil2100> cyphermox: I'll look at netplan
[18:01] <sil2100> Love the number of bugs fixed, the bug tabs were popping up for ages!
[18:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: qemu (cosmic-proposed/main) [1:2.12+dfsg-3ubuntu6 => 1:2.12+dfsg-3ubuntu7] (ubuntu-server, virt)
[18:15] <fossfreedom> hi all - whilst testing the budgie beta I noticed that our ubiquity slideshow request hasn't been reviewed.  Is the two outstanding merge requests (ubuntu and UBudgie) on anyone's radar?
[18:15] <willcooke> fossfreedom, I'm updating the Ubuntu slideshow images right now, so I can nudge somone tomorrow
[18:16] <fossfreedom> thx
[18:16] <sil2100> cyphermox: ok, so some bugs are missing SRU information right now for netplan - the doc-only ones I could basically let in as is but there's some that I'd need to know more about, with detailed testing and regression potential
[18:18] <sil2100> cyphermox: those would be: LP: #1736965, LP: #1736975, LP: #1747455, LP: #1768798, LP: #1771704 and LP: #1786726
[18:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1736965 in nplan (Ubuntu) ""netplan apply" does not set file mode, umask 077 causes systemd-networkd to be unable to start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1736965
[18:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1736975 in netplan "netplan does not bring up anonymous bridge on boot" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1736975
[18:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1747455 in netplan "netplan does not support defining route with scope 'link'" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747455
[18:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1768798 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "netplan try: terminal does not echo keypresses after ^C during wait " [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1768798
[18:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1771704 in netplan "support for ipv4 link-local addressing" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1771704
[18:18] <sil2100> Also, LP: #1768560 seems to be linked in the changelog but it's a duplicate
[18:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1736965 in nplan (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1768560 "netplan apply" does not set file mode, umask 077 causes systemd-networkd to be unable to start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1736965
[18:28] <jbicha> slangasek: do my comments on bug 1788256 satisfy your concerns?
[18:28] <ubot5> bug 1788256 in fonts-noto-color-emoji (Ubuntu Bionic) "Update fonts-noto-color-emoji to 20180810 release for Unicode 11" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1788256
[18:38] <tsimonq2> lubuntu-meta update coming down the pike; should go in immediately after the Beta if possible.
[18:42] <sil2100> cyphermox: grub2/grub2-signed I can't review as there's already one in -proposed, it's still aging
[18:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted initramfs-tools [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.130ubuntu3.5]
[19:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted cloud-init [source] (trusty-proposed) [0.7.5-0ubuntu1.23]
[19:27] <tsimonq2> fossfreedom: Oh, I just noticed this in scrollback. I have gone ahead and merged your MP and Wimpress's MP, but I'll leave it to Will to upload.
[19:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: groovy (cosmic-proposed/universe) [2.4.15-3ubuntu1 => 2.4.15-3ubuntu2] (no packageset)
[19:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted groovy [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2.4.15-3ubuntu2]
[19:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: freeipa (cosmic-proposed/universe) [4.7.0~pre1+git20180411-2ubuntu2 => 4.7.0~pre2-0ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[19:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted freeipa [source] (cosmic-proposed) [4.7.0~pre2-0ubuntu1]
[19:35] <Wimpress> sil2100: cyphermox: Do you have an ETA for the beta release?
[19:40] <infinity> Wimpress: They might, but they'd be wrong.
[19:40] <infinity> sil2100: Since sil2100 isn't driving it, and cyphermox isn't on the release team at all. :P
[19:40] <infinity> Wimpress: Anyhow, it'll be a few hours, just waiting on some mirror settling and dotting and crossing various letters.
[19:41] <infinity> Wimpress: Basically, my EOD (it's 2pm here now)
[19:42] <acheronuk> ah. just enough time to have a good panic about release notes.....
[19:43] <sil2100> :D
[19:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (bionic-proposed) [2018e-0ubuntu0.18.04]
[19:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.10 => 1.11] (lubuntu)
[19:47] <Wimpress> infinity: Thanks.
[20:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lubuntu-artwork (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.7 => 1.8] (lubuntu)
[20:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (xenial-proposed) [2018e-0ubuntu0.16.04]
[20:04] <cyphermox> sil2100: grub2/grub2-signed in unapproved includes the changes in -proposed.
[20:06] <cyphermox> (dannf gave his go-ahead)
[20:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (trusty-proposed) [2018e-0ubuntu0.14.04]
[20:22] <bdmurray> slangasek: Could you have a look at the verification of bug 1787649? I don't want to do the whole thing myself.
[20:22] <ubot5> bug 1787649 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Bionic) "ubuntu-release-upgrader crashed with SystemError: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1787649
[20:56] <tsimonq2> infinity: Can I safely assume e.g. Lubuntu images will be under http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/cosmic/beta/ when they're ready?
[20:59] <infinity> tsimonq2: That seems like a fair assumption.
[20:59] <tsimonq2> infinity: Wonderful.
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[21:44] <wxl> cjwatson: can you puhleeeeeeez help lubuntu fix their isolinux logos. they seem in every way correct, but they just don't display.
[21:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [source] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu8.6]
[21:46] <wxl> ^^^ or if anyone else has any clues. (infinity?)
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[21:55] <infinity> wxl: Ask me on a day that isn't today, and maybe I can have a look.  But Colin might beat me to it.
[21:56] <wxl> infinity: i've ping around here a couple times to no avail, so hopefully someone gets to it XD
[22:00] <Wimpress> wxl Compare with Ubuntu MATE. Colin helped us get the resolutions correct sometime back.
[22:01] <wxl> Wimpress: i'm pretty sure i actually got so far as comparing the freaking headers on the darn images.
[22:02] <wxl> Wimpress: also was your problem no display at all or poor resolution?
[22:23] <xnox> wxl, i'd fix isolinux by dropping it in favor of grub only iso =) without any logos
[22:23] <wxl> xnox is that an option?
[22:24] <wxl> like is someone else doing that?
[22:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: livecd-rootfs (cosmic-proposed/main) [2.540 => 2.541] (desktop-core)
[22:24] <xnox> i think we all agree isolinux is crap on isos, and kind of useless in the uefi / modern hardware world.
[22:24] <xnox> and is now more harmful, than useful.
[22:24] <wxl> well afaik it doesn't get used in uefi boots
[22:24] <wxl> right?
[22:24] <xnox> even on i386, and even for lubuntu
[22:25] <wxl> so let's get everyone to go that direction. i'm all for it!
[22:25] <xnox> correct uefi boots are grub only; and imho non-uefi should be the same
[22:25] <xnox> but like we moan about it each time at release time; rather than at like archive opening =)
[22:25] <wxl> well i think the former is a statement of fact while the latter is, at this point, a matter of opinion. currently a non-uefi boot is, unfortunately, an isolinux boot
[22:26] <slangasek> and it's a much nicer experience than grub on uefi
[22:26] <slangasek> which is why there's not much enthusiasm for switching
[22:26] <wxl> because of the language support or what?
[22:27] <xnox> grub is non-graphical
[22:27] <wxl> because as far as theming and boot options, both should be able to support the same thing unless i'm missing something
[22:27] <wxl> wait i thought you could theme grub?
[22:27] <xnox> ha
[22:28] <xnox> if by theme, you mean change colors on ascii characters -> yes
[22:28] <wxl> https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Theme-file-format.html
[22:29] <wxl> i mean i'vre never tried to do this before so i just may be missing something, but it seems like there's support for everything everyone could possibly want
[22:31] <xnox> slangasek, to me isolinux is odd; given that normal ubuntu machines do not boot like that.
[22:31] <slangasek> language support. keyboard support. extended options support.
[22:31] <slangasek> it is odd, sure
[22:31] <wxl> seems there is at least some il18n support
[22:31] <xnox> slangasek, what do you like about isolinux, and what should i fix? the Fn key norton-commander pop-ups?
[22:32] <xnox> yeah, grub-menus are less flexible like that, unless we build a massive tree of boot options
[22:32] <slangasek> xnox: it's not a question about "what I like"; the x86 BIOS boot with isolinux is a designed experience, the UEFI GRUB one is not
[22:32] <wxl> given the future is UEFI, i think maybe it might be wise to start focusing on building for it/
[22:33] <tsimonq2> Whatever we end up with, I really think that the locale selection on first boot is very valuable.
[22:33] <xnox> slangasek, i think out of the 18.04 release sprint, the desire came out "why do we not have Maybe-ubiquity" as the first uefi option
[22:33] <xnox> slangasek, which times-out and boots to the same "maybe ubiquity" screen with "try" or "install" buttons
[22:33] <wxl> yeah i think that's a reasonable concern, tsimonq2. while grub supports translated strings it's not clear how to select your language
[22:33] <xnox> well, it's nicer to choose language in ubiquity screen..... i thought.
[22:34] <tsimonq2> wxl: We don't have Ubiquity :))
[22:34] <tsimonq2> er, xnox ^
[22:34] <xnox> ah
[22:34] <xnox> yes
[22:34] <wxl> that's true.. but you can't check the disk or memtest with ubiquity
[22:34] <xnox> i forgot.
[22:34] <xnox> i should try to use that btw.
[22:34] <tsimonq2> Plus, what about with e.g. Kubuntu where you boot up and have to select the desktop icon?
[22:34] <tsimonq2> (Much like Lubuntu.)
[22:34] <slangasek> xnox: choosing keyboard in ubiquity doesn't work right today
[22:34] <tsimonq2> If I speak Arabic, I won't know what to do. :P
[22:35] <xnox> slangasek, yeah, true
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu8.6 => 2.02-2ubuntu8.6] (core)
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[22:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted gnome-tweaks [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1]
[22:39] <xnox> slangasek, sounds like isolinux should be replaced by something nice - like plymouth in the initramfs that can do language/keyboard stuff. and is highdpi aware.
[22:40] <xnox> and it can bind-mount a different /proc/cmdline
[22:41] <xnox> or like write out options in /run
[22:41] <xnox> slangasek, i hate that both isolinux and grub are non-highdpi; the first highdpi thing is plymouth.
[22:41] <slangasek> xnox: petitboot-uefi
[22:41] <xnox> yes!
[22:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base amd64 [Cosmic Beta] has been marked as ready
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[22:42] <xnox> slangasek, is that a thing? or a troll? or i need to implement it?
[22:43] <slangasek> xnox: troll
[22:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sakura (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.6.0-1ubuntu1 => 3.6.0-3] (no packageset) (sync)
[22:43] <slangasek> please select all of the lines on your IRC screen that contain pictures of "troll"
[22:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sakura [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.6.0-3]
=== slangasek is now known as vorlon
[22:44] <vorlon> perhaps this helps
=== vorlon is now known as slangasek
[22:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libsecret (cosmic-proposed/main) [0.18.6-2 => 0.18.6-3] (desktop-core) (sync)
=== slangasek is now known as vorlon
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[22:49] <tsimonq2> infinity: How's publishing coming?
[22:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted evolution-ews [sync] (cosmic-proposed) [3.30.1-1]
[22:49] <infinity> tsimonq2: Hashy hashy disky disky networky networky.
[22:50] <tsimonq2> infinity: Sounds fun.
[22:50] <infinity> Thrill-a-minute.
[22:51] <xnox> infinity, what about typy typy? all done that?
[22:52] <infinity> xnox: It's more cutty pastey.
[22:52] <xnox> hehe
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