[00:13] is it normal that kde5 plasma doesn't have the compiz effects enabled? [00:14] Kuwanger: The idea of trying this is to see if it's something in the profile or something else [00:14] illuminated: KDE doesn't use compiz as a window compisitor... it has it's own engine [00:15] pragmaticenigma: well how do I get all the neat effects I've seen? [00:15] i mean my kde is just plain... it doesn't do crap [00:16] illuminated: that's kind of the point of all computers... they're meant to do tasks... entertainment is a side effect [00:16] I want it to look good [00:17] can someone tell me how to change gnome's font size based on dpi monitors? At home, I have a 1440p monitor and the font size is perfect. However, when i move my ext hd to a lower res monitor, the font sizes are too large. How do I change the overall system font based on dpi? [00:17] illuminated: If you want the effects of compiz... compiz was designed for Gnome Desktop environment [00:18] moredrowsy: you could write a script that runs on login that detects the environment and changes the setting. I don't believe there is a built in function [00:18] well I mean I'm watching this video on plasma on youtube.. and the dude is switching the task switcher effects. I change the effect and it doesn't do shit. It just does the same thing no matter what effect I choose. [00:19] illuminated: Please mind your language [00:19] pragmaticenigma, oh, unfortunate. thanks anyways [00:20] pragmaticenigma: could it not be doing any of that cuz it's a virtualbox instance and the emulated vid card doesn't have the nuts to do these effects? [00:21] illuminated: What you see some dude on YouTube doing, probably took hours of configuration and trial and error. And a VM is a very limited environment, those effects rely on components in the graphics card to perform. Just like you can't play a video game in a VM very well, the same components are used for compiz and other desktop effects === gurmble is now known as grumble [00:39] pragmaticenigma: I checked and a blank profile has the same problem. [00:41] Kuwanger: Do you have other tools or plugins installed? [00:43] pragmaticenigma: Think I found a workaround: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Projects/dconf/SystemAdministrators?action=show&redirect=dconf%2FSystemAdministrators [00:46] it's something to check out... I haven't experienced the same issue, at least that I noticed [00:46] so I'm unsure if that will solve it. or just mask the problem [00:50] pragmaticenigma: Mask, yes. Because finding the problem doesn't seem readily doable. [00:58] pragmaticenigma: And I can verify it worked. I do wish I could actual trace the problem rather than endless trial and error, but at least it's some sort of solution. [01:11] Kuwanger: You might want to consider filing a bug report on launchpad against Nautilus... Ubuntu/Canonical devs monitor that and will help you find the culprit and while helping you, might figure out if it really is a bug [01:11] lookling through the Ubiquity bug tracker makes me wonder how people manage to install Ubuntu at all. :D [01:16] hey there question about the newest Ubuntu release, so is it possible to flash it onto a flash drive, and just run it from a flash drive without installing it? [01:17] I ask because I was thinking about testing the newest release that Canoical posted on their twitter onto my Windows gaming pc, but didn't want to erase any existing harddrive data [01:17] I've only used flash drives to install Lubuntu directly onto old laptops [01:18] I am pretty sure that you can use it as long as you do not install it. [01:18] It will give you options. Use the closest to live cd... [01:22] Wafficus: Yes, down laod the desktop edition, and once the .iso file is burned .. choose "try ubuntu" . [01:24] Bashing-om: thanks, and where can I go to report any bugs? I ask because I'd like to get more Open Source project experience for later work, and would love to help you guys out [01:25] I've been helping out Lubuntu so far through their "Phab" page [01:26] !bug | Wafficus [01:26] Wafficus: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [01:28] Wafficus: You will find we appreciate all the help we can get :P === tatertotz is now known as RoscoePColtrane [01:28] weird question, but if I do this, could I list in on my LinkedIn under my "Open Source Developer" position? [01:28] just wondering if that's okay with you guys [01:28] I already have a job in tech as a QC Auditor for an ad tech company, just trying to get dev experience to maybe break into the field later [01:29] I don't use code in my current job tbh, but I see the effects of it through the ads they capture [03:20] So, I've got an issue with Ubuntu and presumably most Linux distributions (as this issue also occurs under FreeBSD): [03:20] Old AMD card from 2009, passed through to an Ubuntu guest. I can't get any display, and if I try to load radeon (or radeonkms under FreeBSD), I get "Unable to locate BIOS ROM" [03:21] drivers work fine under Windows, displays the login screen as I boot up. Under Ubuntu, I get no display, not even a terminal, to the monitor it is connected to. [03:34] hi all, i'm setting up a simple server for a school project but I ran in to an issue I just can't see through. made a thread here: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2402163 - please have a look and see if you can give me a direction for troubleshooting, thanks! === fishfox__ is now known as fishfox [04:36] willer, had you installed apache rewrite module ? === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === capella is now known as capella|away [05:00] debsan: yes it's already enabled [05:02] Is it normal for a internal hard drive to be mounted on /media.... I'm having issues with emby... not sure if its related. [05:02] I just formatted the hard drive today, and it appears to be in /media/user/harddrivename [05:06] debsan: maybe i need to adjust .htaccess? [05:07] is the problem that i have humhub in a subdirectory? [05:10] got it [05:10] I needed to add to my fstab, and mount the drive [05:10] Thats the DE automount [05:10] interesting, so what is going on when its in /media, this is not "mounted" [05:11] why does emby have issues accessing there, and not after I mount it I wonder, I chmod 777 -R both locations.... [05:11] Just booted into my system and everything was looking fine, sddm started fine but I only see my mouse and the terminal window behind. my desktop doesn't show up. (Using kubuntu 18.04) [05:12] I also had to install an unsigned kernel (from a canonical employee) to fix an issue with my hard drive. I'm not sure if this is relevant to the issue or not. [05:14] You should know if the issue started after you installed the kernel or not [05:15] The system was fine and stable and booted with the new kernel as normal when I first installed [05:18] `sudo service sddm status` looks completely normal [05:21] !nomodeset [05:21] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [05:23] Right but it was booting just fine before and doesn't have a dedicated gpu [05:25] and its weird that I can move my mouse around. Its almost like something with kde didn't start properly [05:26] I think something is wrong with my xserver === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [05:36] ok I just switched to a signed kernel and can confirm that the issue is still present [05:37] i messed up postgres setup [05:37] so i did apt remove and then apt install on it hoping to start from scratch [05:37] but the post install scripts are not being ran after apt install postgres [05:37] so /etc/postgresql/ is not created [05:38] systemctl start postgresql doesn't work === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [05:38] how do i reinstall postgresql from scratch? [05:39] You probably want purge, not remove [05:40] Is 4.18.0.3-generic a default/standard kernel? [05:41] Shmam: it's not part of an official release right now. it's probably derived from Ubuntu's cutting edge kernel in the cosmic branch. [05:42] ah ok. How can I check if my xorg server is running? sddm is running fine and I thought that started up the x server [05:42] Shmam: what iso you use to install kbuntu? [05:42] If you have video output that isn't from a virtual console, it's probably X11. almost no one here uses software that draws directly to a framebuffer. [05:43] Yeah I'm using X11 [05:44] O I just got in with a `startx` [05:44] well, that starts X too. [05:44] wonder why it failed during startup... [05:44] You could check the logs [05:45] Shmam: did you install using 18.04.1 Kubuntu? [05:45] Strange issue you have... I stopped trying to use KDE5 after all the weird glitchs I ran into. [05:45] ryuo: yep [05:46] That was 16.04, but still... I kept seeing such things so I finally gave up on KDE. [05:46] Shmam: ok... no idea what your issue is exactly, though it could be hardware support. How new is the system? [05:47] Shmam: how you got that kernel 4.18.0.3-generic ? [05:47] ryuo: It's only a few months old [05:47] Hm. [05:47] what makes you think its a hardware issue? [05:48] Shmam: Linux support for latest hardware tends to lag. [05:48] It's been that way for the last 10 years i've noticed. [05:48] ledeni: I just did an apt update and upgrade and it installed it [05:48] Especially laptops. [05:48] ryuo: Yeah... I'm running into that rn lel [05:48] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1746340 [05:48] Launchpad bug 1746340 in linux (Ubuntu) "Samsung SSD corruption (fsck needed)" [High,Confirmed] [05:48] Shmam: it sounds like you may have to wait for LTS HWE to resolve your issue officially. [05:49] What laptop anyway? [05:49] Razer blade stealth [05:49] its really awesome [05:49] Huh. [05:49] Wait, the BIOS is from 2017? [05:49] Yet you just bought it? [05:50] Oh. [05:50] This is someone else's. [05:50] yeah I didn't post till the bottom [05:50] only like 2 posts from me [05:51] Shmam: my new probook isn't that fancy but it's had very few issues... go figure. [05:51] had only like 2 issues... the audio leds didn't work (had to submit a kernel patch), and the function keys had issues (bios update fixed). [05:52] how long does it take for the kernel patches to get merged in? [05:52] Shmam: In my case, it was a simple one liner. [05:54] Shmam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1781763 [05:54] Launchpad bug 1781763 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "HP ProBook 455 G5 needs mute-led-gpio fixup" [Undecided,Fix released] === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [05:55] 4-5 weeks for the Ubuntu kernel to include it. [05:55] Like half that for it to get into upstream. [05:55] the one that I linked was started in Jan :( [05:57] Shmam: is your BIOS current? [06:10] Can the Gnome watch screen (if energy saver is set: turn of monitor: 12 min) somehow be deactivated? It's weird those two things are interlinked. [06:34] I often have a problem, while running Firefox with many tabs for a long time, then I start openin like ten Firefox tabs and memory usage spikes and fills and then whole computer blocks... [06:34] nikolam: I started using Vivaldi [06:34] I can not even ssh to machine, nor move mouse pointer, can't switch to text console... only network routing is working [06:35] I think it is OS problem when one running app fills RAM and kills machine [06:35] ctrl+alt+f1 ? [06:35] and if its a desktop zRAM helps a lot. [06:35] nudoge, no joy, tried it [06:36] basicaly , firefox freaks out, start allocating RAM and machine is then halted (even kernel still works [06:36] I had that same issue with running firefox. I know people that swear by it and I have issues with Vivaldi a lot less than I do with Firefox atm [06:36] Would like somehow to limit Firefox and other app memory usage to at least can restart them without halting whole machine [06:37] zRAM to help with the freezing. Im sure there are cgroup mods that could help with memory allocations [06:37] I think I need system solution that always works (limiting per-app usage caps at least) and recovering from large ram usage situations [06:37] cgroup sounds promising [06:38] its tough, I balked it last time I set up cgroups. There are some enviroments I've seen cgroups run well in. === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [07:11] Hello, how can I remove the screen that appears after inactivity? It's not the lock screen, it's a screen that drives me to the desktop if I move the mouse up while pressing the mouse button [07:12] ubuntu 18.04 [07:50] hi, I am trying to use Synaptic package manager to get the offline package list for downloading, but with that I don't get the list of dependencies that need to be installed if I already have a package install and I want to reinstall it. How do I get them in the script as well? [07:50] I don't know how to enable OpenCL on Nvidia graphics (9800GT) For example, can't enable OlenCL in LibreOffice, it is disabled every time I restart it [07:51] For example, if I need python in the script, although I have python installed, I want to generate the download script for python and all its dependencies. How do I do it? [07:54] hi all. System-load-monitor under xubuntu 18.04 doesn't show ram usage when mouse is over the bar. Any solution on this issue? [07:58] Just asking if there is a way to install R9 AMD 270x GPU to ubuntu. There was support to it back in 14.04 version. I have tried to find information about this, but very hard to get 3D acceleration to work. [08:12] ilias_gr, yes, contact xfce developers and send them a patch enabling that option. In the meantime, you can get the source with apt-get source and if build dependencies are installed, compile your own enhanced package. Or pay someone to do it for you. Anyway, post a feature request report to Xfce. [08:14] TsakNorris, R9 270X is supposed to be very well supported for Linux, even with open source divers from AMD at full speed. I just found 20X drivers page on AMD's site. [08:15] TsakNorris, you don't install any drivers. It should just... work. [08:15] nikolam: i am wondering if i can downgrade to 1.1.2 version (from 1.2.1 version installed) which under 16.04 worked fine [08:15] Make sure to enable amdgpu in your boot stuff. [08:18] donalsd, maybe creating locally available package repository mirror is the best solution of working offline, other then that, apt show shows dependecies. Not sure what are best ways of scripting, but it is sure you are trying some personal solution that suits you, so.. [08:19] ilias_gr, what's not working well for you? rpeort your findings in a Ubuntu bug reporta && to AMD [08:21] hi. kubuntu 18.04.1 installer fails at installing grub [08:22] memphisto: what does it say exactly? [08:24] executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. this is fatal error [08:26] as i haven't left installtion yet, i've check and /target is still mounted [08:26] chrooted there [08:27] and manually starteg grub-install [08:27] root@kubuntu:/# grub-install /dev/sda [08:27] Installing for x86_64-efi platform. [08:27] Could not delete variable: Invalid argument [08:27] grub-install: error: efibootmgr failed to register the boot entry: Block device required. [08:34] EriC^^: i've tried this too grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi=/boot/efi /dev/sda but same error appears [08:34] memphisto: type "ls /sys/firmware/efi" , dir exists? [08:35] EriC^^: it does [08:35] memphisto: odd [08:36] so, i have a cronjob running /usr/lib/php/sessionclean every half hour, which litters my email with dozens of "No such file or directory" errors [08:36] memphisto: "ubiquity -b" let's you install without the bootloader so you can chroot and install later [08:36] is there a fix for that? [08:37] memphisto: did the installer continue after the grub error or just crash/stop [08:37] EriC^^: i've got a popup and with mentioned error, but i didn't close the popup [08:37] it will probably finish [08:37] this is anyway the finial step [08:38] that cronjob is part of php-common [08:38] this is xenial btw [08:38] but issue is that i'm manually doing the grub install wich is also failing [08:38] in chroot environment [08:38] memphisto: it actually does some clean up after grub [08:38] memphisto: ok, what does "sudo efibootmgr -v" give? [08:40] EriC^^: i get Boot0000 and Boot001 entries [08:40] i mean i can hack the script to fix, but this seems buggy? [08:40] EriC^^: this could be a leftover from previous install [08:40] memphisto: how did you chroot? [08:41] chroot /target [08:41] memphisto: try to let the installer continue [08:41] then we can setup a chroot ourselves and see [08:44] EriC^^: it finished quicky [08:45] memphisto: ok, type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" share the pastebin link here [08:48] EriC^^: http://termbin.com/yohf [08:51] nikolam: could you send me the link. I wanna check it. All the pages what i have found, it hasn't had any support after 14.04 LTS. [08:51] memphisto: type "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt" [08:52] done [08:52] memphisto: "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done" [08:53] done [08:53] memphisto: sudo chroot /mnt [08:53] done [08:54] memphisto: mount -a [08:54] done [08:54] memphisto: let's see which grub is installed first, "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" [08:54] http://termbin.com/3vdg [08:55] there appears to be a mix of grub legacy and grub efi [08:55] memphisto: apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin [08:56] done with errors [08:56] what errors? [08:57] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) ; that was shim-signed [08:57] hmm [08:57] TsakNorris, I still don't know what is not working for you in newer drivers. SInce 270X is GCN graphics it is supported and as I know drivers are open. [08:58] It's possible that the old fglrx proprietary drivers are old and not developed anymore [08:58] what does "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999" give now? [08:58] memphisto: [08:59] http://termbin.com/padbj [08:59] memphisto: it's still there [09:00] memphisto: anyways, try "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi" [09:00] nikolam: ??? 3D acceleration isn't working. Is there good page where i can read more? [09:01] nikolam: Everybody know that Linux supports more heavily Nvidia than AMD GPU's [09:01] TsakNorris, see in 'synaptic' what packages you have installed [09:01] TsakNorris, Linux does not supports anything, Linux is a kernel. Nvidia makes proprietary drivers and AMD makes open source drivers and supports hardware. [09:02] EriC^^: http://termbin.com/htb7 [09:04] memphisto: ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:04] also sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999 [09:04] EriC^^: http://termbin.com/htb7 [09:05] and "blkid | nc termbin.com 9999" === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [09:05] thats the same link [09:06] EriC^^: sorry , copy/paste error [09:06] http://termbin.com/1j2d [09:08] everything appears to be in place [09:08] it should boot [09:08] the entry is in efibootmgr with correct partuuid and the file is in the partition [09:09] you still need to purge the grub-pc package after you boot to get a clean dpkg/apt state [09:10] memphisto: try rebooting [09:10] EriC^^: i will but if it won't boot..... [09:11] come back here to troubleshoot why [09:11] try first the one-time boot of your pc [09:12] that gives the uefi list and other options to boot [09:12] this is strace of grub-install http://termbin.com/r3rfi [09:12] part of it [09:12] big part of it [09:12] try rebooting [09:12] rebooting [09:18] EriC^^: back [09:19] EriC^^: stuck at grub> [09:19] memphisto: ok, type "echo $prefix" [09:20] ah [09:20] EriC^^: where ? [09:20] thought you were on grub still on another pc [09:20] memphisto: can you get on a phone or other pc while in grub> ? [09:20] EriC^^: will do so... [09:20] ok cool [09:23] EriC^^: back with 2 PCs [09:23] memphisto: cool type "echo $prefix" [09:23] EriC^^: echo $prefix gives (hd0,gpt2)/boot/grub [09:24] hmm odd [09:24] memphisto: try typing "normal" [09:25] EriC^^: did that, and prefix gives the same;still in grub> [09:25] memphisto: try "configfile $prefix/grub.cfg" [09:26] memphisto: ah it makes sense, we forgot to run update-grub Doh O.o [09:26] ok , going live [09:26] ok === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [09:34] EriC^^: http://termbin.com/cblv [09:34] :) [09:35] but noooo [09:35] memphisto: great, run sudo update-grub [09:38] EriC^^: done [09:38] how to check, apart from rebooting [09:38] ls /boot/grub/grub.cfg [09:38] memphisto: also try apt-get purge grub-pc from the chroot [09:40] i'm doing apt-get purge grub-pc, but it has a scary question popup [09:41] Do you want all grub2 files removed from /boot/grub? [09:41] hmmm === capella|away is now known as capella [09:41] say yes [09:41] i'm gonna blindly follow you [09:41] then run apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed && grub-install && update-grub [09:42] i get io error [09:44] EriC^^: http://termbin.com/svpq === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [09:45] memphisto: no worries, type "update-grub" [09:45] It says done [09:45] reboot ? [09:45] ok try rebooting [09:45] and pray [09:46] oooooo [09:46] i have ugly blue grub and text scroling [09:46] its what i've always wanted [09:47] lol [09:47] ok [09:47] so all good memphisto ? [09:47] what does "dpkg -l | grep grub" give? [09:48] all praises to EriC^^ - lord of the GRUB and the master of dpkg [09:48] thansk [09:48] no problem memphisto [09:48] will check as soon as it boots [09:49] so, should this be a bug report ? [09:49] is it known issue [09:49] mm i think it's some efibootmgr uefi issue [09:49] i've did manual partitioning === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [09:49] maybe that bothered him [09:49] it's failing when adding the entry, though it's actually succeeding in adding it [09:50] oddly enough grub-install worked from the install later, but when installing the package it failed [09:50] so must be some software bug [09:51] http://termbin.com/rp86 [09:51] can you send me those termbin links that i've sent you [09:51] i'd like to try and file a bug report [09:51] and i'll need those === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === capella is now known as capella|away [10:41] 'Morning folks === imsurit_ofc1 is now known as imsurit_ofc [11:27] morning [11:40] hi! i want to set up an automatic deployment scheme for ubuntu.. this will be for virtual machines running on the vmware vsphere platform.. how do you recommend doing this? [11:42] zamba, try to remaster your own oem install [11:42] Sven_vB: preseed files? [11:42] Sven_vB: pxe booted? [11:42] zamba, yes both [11:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubiquity/OEM [11:43] Sven_vB: is cobbler something that can be used here? [11:43] dunno [12:28] What kernel version currently ships with Ubuntu 18.10? Sites I've seen say 4.17, but what minor version? I looked through the package repository but couldn't find it. [12:31] chris062689: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=cosmic§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=linux-image-generic&searchon=names [12:32] 4.18.0.7.8 [12:32] hello, which channel is support/help channel? [12:32] sylwek-ibmr50e: topic ? [12:32] my PC takes too long to boot, maybe someone could take a look at my systemd-analyze blame [12:33] Thank you Ool. I imagine if I require kernel version 4.17.2, 4.18.0 would be inclusive of that? [12:34] I don't know, just, this link may be helfull to know versions :) [12:35] !paste | sylwek-ibmr50e [12:35] sylwek-ibmr50e: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [12:35] I know how to paste shit [12:35] http://termbin.com/tt2i [12:35] !ohmy | sylwek-ibmr50e [12:35] sylwek-ibmr50e: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [12:36] it's an old laptop, but it takes longer to boot than windows 7 which is weird [12:37] sylwek-ibmr50e: comparing windows boot times to linux boot times is like comparing an orange to a banana. They are not the same things. [12:38] sylwek-ibmr50e: Both systems use very different approaches to booting. An example, Microsoft has optimized windows to boot essential items to get to the boot screen, and continues it's boot process while waiting for a user to authenticate. Linux/Ubuntu does not [12:39] Linux/Ubuntu takes a different approach, in some cases similar, every attempt is made to get the user to the login screen as fast as possible. But the approach is different (systemd attempts to load things in parallel instead of waiting for one service to start before starting the next [12:40] oh I see [12:40] very interesting, cleared up some things [12:40] so linux want to be ready at desktop, while windows is still loading stuff in the background [12:43] How can I force an upgrade from 18.04.1 to 18.10? do-release-upgrade -d says I need to be running the latest version before upgrading? [12:44] perhaps do your update upgrade before ? [12:44] but I don't try, I only use LTS [12:44] sylwek-ibmr50e: One thing I see in your post, are you mounting a windows partition or network share? [12:44] it's a windows partition, I added it to fstab [12:44] !ubuntu+1 | chris062689 [12:44] chris062689: Cosmic Cuttlefish is the codename for Ubuntu 18.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 [12:45] Thank you. [12:46] chris062689: Also note, 18.10 has not been released yet. [12:53] hey guys, I just upgraded to 18.04.1 LTS from 16.04 and the UI freezes after login - I tried all the recommended solutions on the interwebs, but nothing works? Would anyone be able to guide me through in order to get to a proper fix ? Thanks [12:57] @rfv I had a similar thing happen, ended up just doing a clean install, I was trying to see if during the install there would be an option to "repair" my 18.04 installation [12:58] @jessarcade did a clean install fix the issue? [12:59] @rfv I can boot into 18.04 and login like normally, but now grub doesn't launch, I have a dual boot with windows on my desktop, and it boots straight into ubuntu [13:00] rfv: are you using an nvidia card by any chance? [13:02] I am. [13:02] @lotus|NUC I think it's Intel integrated, lspci says Intel Corporation Xeon E301299 [13:03] @jessarcade maybe you have GRUB_TIMEOUT set to 0 in /etc/default/grub ? [13:04] rfv: did you test xorg vs wayland login? [13:04] lotus|NUC: I have not, what's wayland ? [13:05] lotus|NUC: ah, I see, will give a try, thanks! [13:05] Since I basically already did a clean install last night, I'm thinking of just completely formatting the drive and installing again. But when it boots, the Grub CLI comes up without any options. I've run grub-install on my linux hard drive still won't boot into grub manager. [13:07] jessarcade: are you dualbooting or so? [13:09] Trying to. Both my linux and windows installations are on seperate hard drives [13:09] jessarcade_: you used your existing partition perhaps for the new install? [13:09] is the bios set to boot from the linux hdd? [13:10] yeah, that's why I'm thinking a reformat would fix it [13:10] you dont have to [13:11] @lotus|NUC that didn't work, the thing is that I can see apps starting up, like Skype etc. but besides moving the mouse around there's no way to do anything else [13:12] rfv: can you open a terminal? [13:13] gpunk the bios has the linux drive as the primary boot, and I've been using boot selector to boot straight into ubuntu [13:13] lotus|NUC: yup, that I can do, though there's something wrong with the key presses as well as typing 'rfv' ends up as 'rrfffffffvvvvv' and is really annoying [13:13] where is linux, /dev/sda or /dev/sdb ? [13:13] rfv: seems like things are badly scrambled.. === capella|away is now known as capella [13:14] gpunk: /sda [13:14] rfv: try a: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade from terminal first [13:14] lotus|NUC: did that, nothing to upgrade [13:15] what s the value of GRUB_TIMEOUT= in /etc/default/grub ? [13:16] At work now so I can't check till I get home. [13:16] rfv: how about dmesg, see whats going on in there? [13:18] rfv: nothing, besides my asus wifi network adapter OOPS-ing, which is nothing new under the sun - same thing happened with 16.04 and I'm used to reconnecting the adapter every couple of hours. I think I need to look into a more stable distro [13:19] lotus|NUC: ^^ :) [13:20] rfv: you have external ppa's of any kind in your system? [13:22] @lotus|NUC quite a bunch, since this was an upgrade from 16.04 [13:23] but apparently they have been disabled on upgrade [13:24] jessarcade_: ok , make sure you do grub-install /dev/sda , then update-grub [13:25] hello folks am trying to execute a script after network start but it fails;I have the script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ on 18.04 LTS [13:25] rfv: if things got too scrambled, perhaps consider a clean install, 18.04 working like a charm here [13:26] gpunk: will do [13:27] lotus|NUC: I was thinking I could get around that so I don't have to spend another day at least with backing up my data (yeah, I know, bad disk setup) and another half day re-doing my setup. I might end up doing that since that could potentially solve my wifi driver issue as well, either with clean 18.04 or some other distro [13:29] rfv: can you doublecheck if your on right kernel aswell mate? [13:30] @lotus|NUC 4.15.0-34 [13:30] rfv: ok tnx looks right [13:31] rfv: what i would also try is a tail -f /var/log/syslog see whats going on in realtime with gnome.. [13:32] rfv: maybe a full cleanup of ppa's, system with clean with bleachbit [13:43] hey guys, why wont this seem to run as a crontab as root [13:43] * * * * * /sbin/iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.up.rules [13:43] if i run it manually, works great [13:43] but as a crontab .. no changes get made to iptablse [13:46] heh, syntax error in my file .. typial [13:46] working now [13:46] !yay [13:46] Glad you made it! :-) [13:49] @lotus|NUC workspaces to dock gnome-shell extension was the culprit ... I removed that and it looks fine now [13:52] !yay | rfv [13:52] rfv: Glad you made it! :-) [13:52] rfv: install preload also, it will give your system a lil boost too [14:01] This is going to sound childish or whatever... but is there a way I can get `sudo service start servicename` to show a different error? I'm used to upstart's `sudo start servicename` so I keep typing the other backwards and it takes me a good 2 minutes to figure out why it isn't working. [14:01] like " ========= [ START IS NOT A SERVICE ] ============================== " or something [14:04]