| Helenah | How come ppa.launchpad.net is done? | 17:55 |
|---|---|---|
| Helenah | *down | 17:55 |
| Helenah | Can I have an alternate address please? | 17:55 |
| Helenah | This is frequent... | 17:56 |
| teward | Helenah: how do you know it's "down"? | 17:59 |
| Helenah | I don't really | 17:59 |
| Helenah | Either way | 18:00 |
| Helenah | I need an alternate address | 18:00 |
| nacc | Helenah: what do you mean by 'alternate address'? | 19:09 |
| Helenah | nacc: Well... there is some fluky node | 19:26 |
| Helenah | around here, out of my control | 19:26 |
| Helenah | So I'd like an alternative address to the PPA server | 19:26 |
| teward | LP timeouts on launchpad.net/ubuntu - OOPS-85c744bff89cd439dc48678479027349 | 19:32 |
| ubot5 | https://oops.canonical.com/?oopsid=OOPS-85c744bff89cd439dc48678479027349 | 19:32 |
| teward | Helenah: I don't think there's an alternative address for it | 19:32 |
| teward | since there's only one IP address assigned to it, I don't think there's alternate servers/addressees | 19:32 |
| teward | but that's an LP Admin question | 19:33 |
| teward | Helenah: and by 'fluky node' what do you mean? | 19:34 |
| teward | if you mean some point between you and the PPA servers an alternate address won't help | 19:34 |
| Helenah | teward: There are several fluky nodes that belong to my ISP | 19:36 |
| Helenah | and it's a nightmare when trying to administrate things | 19:36 |
| teward | Helenah: then there's nothing you can do | 19:38 |
| teward | alt address or not | 19:38 |
| teward | and you're out of luck | 19:38 |
| teward | if the "fluky nodes" are out of your control an alternate address won't solve the problem | 19:38 |
| Helenah | So what do I need to be doing? | 19:38 |
| Helenah | Cause... I'm considering a switch over to Debian | 19:38 |
| teward | yelling at your ISP is what you should be doing | 19:39 |
| Helenah | That fixes nothing | 19:39 |
| teward | since the ISP's bad nodes in the network chain are at fault | 19:39 |
| teward | Helenah: neither does switching to Debian - same fluky nodes problem | 19:39 |
| Helenah | Like... I learned in this life that you can yell and scream all you want but your voice wont get heard. | 19:40 |
| Helenah | Debians repos work though | 19:40 |
| Helenah | like always | 19:40 |
| teward | so do Ubuntu - PPAs aren't official repos :p | 19:40 |
| teward | and there's no PPAs for Debian if you need custom packages | 19:40 |
| Helenah | Agreed | 19:40 |
| Helenah | I have issues with Ubuntu repos too though sometimes | 19:41 |
| Helenah | and when I traceroute, things get stuck on ISP nodes | 19:41 |
| teward | again, ISP problem. Up to you whether you use Ubuntu or not, but ther'es nothing *we* can do to help you | 19:42 |
| teward | Helenah: have you tried looking for a local repo mirror | 19:42 |
| teward | one that might be more 'accessible' by your ISP? | 19:42 |
| Helenah | I could do | 19:42 |
| teward | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors might be prudent | 19:43 |
| teward | a whole list of them | 19:43 |
| teward | some are not up to date though | 19:43 |
| nacc | Helenah: teward's point is that if you tried to route to the ppa in debian, it's the same issue. | 22:01 |
| nacc | Helenah: that's the only thing to diagnose, so 1) fix the ISP, 2) switch ISP, 3) don't use PPAs. | 22:01 |
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