[00:00] <Wafficus> ah I see
[00:00] <wxl> here's the docs for the module https://docs.python.org/3/library/urllib.request.html
[00:00] <Wafficus> yep, i've briefly used urllib before, for one task that beautifulsoup couldn't handle
[00:01] <wxl> and this is a good general starting point as it handles HTTP and URL errors as well as timeout errors
[00:01] <wxl> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8763451/how-to-handle-urllibs-timeout-in-python-3/52375450#52375450
[00:01] <wxl> cool
[00:01] <wxl> so this should be pretty simple, no?
[00:02] <Wafficus> seems pretty doable at my stage in Python
[00:02] <Wafficus> i'd have to sit with it
[00:02] <wxl> thought so :)
[00:02] <Wafficus> but sounds like a good challenge tbh
[00:02] <Wafficus> when do you need this fixed by?
[00:02] <wxl> well ideally before we end up releasing
[00:03] <wxl> i think we should seek @tsimonq2 's opinion but i'd consider this fix more important than working on the radio buttons in netinstall on calamares. i.e. it doesn't matter WHAT you install if you can't install anything
[00:04] <wxl> when you get it figured out you can use this to submit your changes to the calamares-settings-ubuntu repository https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging-tutorial/
[00:05] <wxl> we just ran @HMollerCl and @TheWendyPower on how to do that process (they just submitted their first changes to Ubuntu!!!!!) so you can ask them or myself/@tsimonq2 for help
[00:05] <wxl> also @tsimonq2 and i both speak python fairly well
[00:07] <wxl> @TheWendyPower 's first change in Ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-artwork/1.7
[00:07]  * wxl beams proudly
[00:07] <Wafficus> sweet
[00:08] <Wafficus> yeah I wrote everything down as notes
[00:08] <wxl> Hans' is coming down the pike shortly
[00:08] <Wafficus> I'll try to look at it during work lunch tomorrow in that case for sure
[00:08] <wxl> it'd probably be already there but today's the day we released the Beta image of 18.10
[00:08] <wxl> sounds good
[00:08] <Wafficus> I'm gonna git commit this to my personal git hub account
[00:08] <wxl> looking forward to getting your name in lights (or at least in the changelog) soon too :)
[00:09] <Wafficus> I'll name this directory as bug1794844 to stay align with the original post
[00:09] <Wafficus> for sure, definitely seems nice to be on a small team
[00:09] <Wafficus> believe me, the bigger the teams get at my personal job aka a .com ad tech company, the worse its getting lol
[00:09] <wxl> well it's harder to coordinate
 This team is awesome @Wafficus!
[00:10] <wxl> i like small teams too
[00:10] <Wafficus> I much prefer this tbh, at least I can have somewhat of a role
[00:10] <wxl> if only we ran politics the same way...
[00:10] <Wafficus> ha, I guess
[00:10] <Wafficus> just cause you mentioned it, i'll be flat out honest with you
[00:10] <Wafficus> I'm republican, but hopefully that doesn't phase you. I don't ever put politics with work, so it won't be a problem with me
[00:10] <wxl> i even see on mastodon the people with the smallest instances have the best luck, community management wise
[00:11] <Wafficus> yeah I've seen Mastodon, looks like a nice alternative to Facebook tbh
[00:11] <wxl> well right or left, i'm simply talking about managable organization
[00:11] <Wafficus> ah I see lol
[00:11] <Wafficus> whoops
[00:11] <Wafficus> well at least you know now I guess, I never make it into an issue
[00:12] <wxl> that said, i don't really give a hoot.... but i have very strong political opinions that i don't mind voicing loudly XD 
[00:12] <wxl> you might find more common ground with @tsimonq2 :)
[00:12] <Wafficus> people at work however try to, but I usually stay silent lol
[00:12] <Wafficus> haha nice
[00:12] <Wafficus> thought I was the only one tbh, though at my current job, kinda am
[00:12] <Wafficus> but with that out of the way
[00:12] <Wafficus> looks like a cool bug
[00:12] <wxl> heh yep. totally solvable
[00:12] <wxl> and i think well within your wheelhouse
[00:12] <Wafficus> pretty sick cause it directly involves a webscraping module I almost used
[00:12] <Wafficus> I usually use BeautifulSoup4
[00:13] <Wafficus> but still, sweet definitely will give this a go
[00:13] <wxl> i think you've been chewing hard on a rather big chunk and this is way more bite size. i think that will prove to be a bit more encouraging in the end
[00:13] <Wafficus> I'll still try to keep a bit versed with qt
[00:13] <wxl> suffice it to say, i'm on the look out for things for you and as i see them i'll make sure to mention them
[00:13] <Wafficus> well tbh, the small projects still have been pushing me too
[00:13] <Wafficus> sweet, I appreciate that
[00:14] <wxl> i appreciate your help!
[00:14] <Wafficus> like today, I got just a little bit further with a Python based MTA app I've been building on Repl.it during lunch breaks
[00:14] <Wafficus> yeah man, love how open you guys are
[00:14] <Wafficus> and the fact that you have an IRC channel, ace my man
[00:14] <Wafficus> that Pybee project would maybe give me a response like a day later lol
[00:14] <wxl> one last thing. you have a cell phone? cuz you know we have this channel bridged to telegram and matrix so you won't miss anything
[00:14] <Wafficus> by someone who doesn't even work on that project, go figure
[00:14] <wxl> hahahahah
[00:14] <wxl> yeah no that's not us
[00:15] <Wafficus> yeah, I'll give you my number in private if you need it later
[00:15] <wxl> and i think that @tsimonq2 and i both are full of ideas so there's not going to be any time in the near future where we run out of things to do XD
[00:15] <wxl> i was thinking more that you could have more ready access to the scrollback
[00:15] <tsimonq2> Holy freaking 20 pings in 30 seconds XD
[00:15] <wxl> i mostly use irc but if i'm out and about i might use mobile
[00:15] <Wafficus> I'll try burning the newest ISO onto a flash drive this weekend too btw, and poke around to see if I can find any bugs using the live disc
[00:16] <wxl> we were trying to figure out Super_L to run the menu while i was watching my daughter perform in a horse show XD
[00:16] <Wafficus> well I use Termux on my cellphone when I'm on the train in the morning
[00:16] <Wafficus> aww that's dang cute
[00:16] <wxl> yes that would be greta!
[00:16] <wxl> great that is
[00:16] <wxl> btw did we ever finish the Super_L thing? @TheWendyPower weren't you going to come up with something based on my discoveries/
[00:16] <Wafficus> yeah, cause I saw the post that the Canoical CEO put out on Twitter, so I figured we had our own release too
[00:17] <Wafficus> interesting how you guys trail their releases
[00:17] <Wafficus> like, how is the relationship between Lubuntu and ubuntu? its more or less a forked version right?
[00:17] <wxl> i have to say.. being that i complain a lot about telegram (it's not completely open source and it's centralized which sucks).. it's been one of the best things for getting us connected contributors
[00:17] <wxl> well "ubuntu" is essentially a selection of packages out of the repositories hosted by canonical
[00:18] <wxl> so is lubuntu.. and kubuntu.. and all the other flavors
[00:18] <wxl> they're actually on the same release cycle, same infrastructure, etc.
 @wxl that is the plan! I have a pull/move list from that. Right now the dang 403 error is still kicking my bum... :-P
[00:18] <wxl> put another way, i would say this: lubuntu *IS* ubuntu
[00:19] <wxl> @TheWendyPower did you already arc diff that? or is it in a repo anywhere????
[00:19] <Wafficus> gotcha, pretty cool imo how we're able to provide latest releases even on lower end hardware. Love it cause I love rescuing old laptops and stuff like that
[00:20] <Wafficus> still impressed though there is one very weird thing regarding videos I wanted to know in Lubuntu
[00:20] <wxl> yeah it's pretty neat. we've had some school systems completely "upgrade" their school simply by using lubuntu on old windows xp/95 machines
[00:20] <Wafficus> I tried GNOME MPV on a 2 gig ram laptop for a Blueray ripped video, and it didn't run that stable, choppy every other minute
[00:20] <Wafficus> wow
[00:20] <Wafficus> that is sick
 I have not for the global keys. I need to mesh some files then they need to go /ect/xdg/lxqt Taht means I have another repo to clone to get the new file there. We also need to get the file out of the $HOME. I have no idea how to do that. Hiopefully that isn't to many typos...
[00:21] <wxl> yeah i haven't dealt with blueray much.. could be a lot of things
[00:21] <Wafficus> probably the ram tbh, even on a basic user level, me and my girlfriend were talking about how its probably only good for DVD type quality, and anything blueray quality is probably resulting in the lag in the video
[00:22] <Wafficus> makes sense
[00:22] <wxl> @TheWendyPower could you do me the favor of going through scrollback (or irclogs.ubuntu.com) and finding my notes on the subjecT? then maybe we can put our heads together and fix it
[00:22] <wxl> well blueray is kind of proprietary too and that could be an issue
[00:22] <Wafficus> well in basic terms
[00:22] <Wafficus> its a video from Pirate Bay
[00:22] <Wafficus> so like its just a blue ray rip of a movie
 @wxl I have already copied them and put them in a text doc. :)
[00:23] <wxl> @TheWendyPower once again you prove yourself to be the lady! can you pastebinit?
[00:23] <Wafficus> i'll look at the file extension next time though, probably just the ram
[00:23] <wxl> Wafficus: then i'd guess RAM
[00:23] <Wafficus> yeah for sure
[00:23] <Wafficus> that's what I was thinking
 Yep!
[00:23] <wxl> you might get around it with proper caching
[00:23] <Wafficus> I was kinda bummed cause I was looking to use that 2 gig laptop as a media center pc for the couch tbh
[00:23] <Wafficus> Ill upgrade the ram to 8 gigs though anyway
[00:24] <wxl> i like 12+
[00:24] <wxl> but i also do like 100 things at once :)
[00:24] <Wafficus> yeah I prefer 16 gigs like my Windows gaming pc
[00:24] <Wafficus> but I can't find laptops that cheap that would allow that ha
[00:24] <wxl> well memory is relatively cheap
[00:24] <Wafficus> I dang wish though I could find a decent eBay laptop that I could ugprade to 16 gigs ram
[00:24] <Wafficus> depends though
[00:24] <Wafficus> not with Apple buying out so much ram to build cellphones
[00:24] <wxl> especially if you look for used stuff
[00:25] <wxl> we have an electronics recycler here that we get cheap stuff from
[00:25] <Wafficus> true though, even used ram would be cheaper
[00:25] <Wafficus> hmm I wonder if they have one in NYC tbh
[00:25] <wxl> (we=work)
[00:25] <wxl> probably
[00:25] <wxl> there's one up in pdx too (free geek)
[00:25] <Wafficus> what's pdx?
[00:25] <tsimonq2> But PDX is too far for wxl. XD
[00:25] <Wafficus> ha
[00:25] <tsimonq2> Wafficus: Portland, OR.
[00:25] <wxl> portland
[00:25] <Wafficus> ahh nice
[00:25] <Wafficus> my Girlfriend would love to live there ha
[00:25] <wxl> shush, tsimonq2. it was a timing thing
[00:26] <Wafficus> she loves that damn city
[00:26] <Wafficus> Rose City
[00:26] <wxl> it's pretty fantastic
[00:26] <wxl> for a city
[00:26] <Wafficus> I live in Queens aka a borough of NY
[00:26] <wxl> i'm all for moving out into the country at this point
[00:26] <Wafficus> lol
[00:26] <wxl> even eugene's getting too big
[00:26] <Wafficus> I can imagine
[00:26] <Wafficus> its probably hipster central right?
[00:26] <wxl> i mean it's not
[00:26] <wxl> portland yes
[00:26] <wxl> eugene, no. just hippies.
[00:27] <tsimonq2> ^^^^^
[00:27] <Wafficus> ah I see
[00:27] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:27] <wxl> many of them quite old and barechested
[00:27] <wxl> but that's a whole different story................
[00:27] <Wafficus> yeah once they price me out of Queens, I'll probably be in Jersey at the very least for a commute to NY
[00:27] <wxl> XD
[00:27] <Wafficus> but idk for later though
[00:27] <wxl> i'm originally from cleveland
[00:27] <Wafficus> definitely not back to PA though
[00:27] <Wafficus> ah I see
 Here you go @wxl  ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MQkC5QtSdY/
[00:28] <wxl> a long time ago i drove through a blizzard to go to a jungle rave in pittsburgh
[00:28] <wxl> that was fun
[00:28] <Wafficus> my sister went to college in Pittsburgh
[00:28] <tsimonq2> JUNGLE RAVE?
[00:28] <Wafficus> cool city 
[00:28] <tsimonq2> WHAT IS THIS?
[00:28] <wxl> tsimonq2: you know what jungle is?
[00:28] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[00:28] <tsimonq2> So like...
[00:28] <Wafficus> haha jungle juice
[00:28] <wxl> you know what a rave is/
[00:28] <tsimonq2> A rave... in the jungle?
[00:28] <tsimonq2> Sounds sick, dude.
[00:28] <wxl> not THE jungle
[00:28] <tsimonq2> No, it HAS TO BE IN THE JUNGLE.
[00:28] <tsimonq2> XD
[00:28] <wxl> jungle as in the sort of precursor to drum and bass
[00:29] <Wafficus> oh sick
[00:29] <Wafficus> like acid house?
[00:29] <wxl> oh i wish
[00:29] <tsimonq2> Ohhhhhhh, you hippie wxl. XD
[00:29] <wxl> there was never ever an acid rave anywhere but man i'd go in a heartbeat
[00:29] <wxl> i would go NOW to an acid rave
[00:29] <wxl> and i'm old
[00:29] <Wafficus> makes me wanna get a Roland T808 and replace my current drum machine
[00:29] <wxl> 303
[00:29] <wxl> 303
[00:29] <wxl> 303
[00:29] <Wafficus> haha nice
[00:29] <wxl> want some tunes for programming, Wafficus ?
[00:29] <Wafficus> sure for tomorrow ha
[00:30] <wxl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aloryfd5ipw
[00:30] <wxl> alright i gotta jet
[00:30] <wxl> thanks @TheWendyPower talk soon
 Sound goo!
[00:30] <Wafficus> peace wxl
[00:30]  * wxl high 5s everyone
 *good :P
[00:30] <tsimonq2> cyaaaaaaaaa
[00:30] <wxl> good job ya'll! keep up the good work!
[00:31]  * tsimonq2 moves wxl's ' left a letter.
[00:31] <tsimonq2> It's y'all. :P
 There ya go, making me laught again...
 WOW! I can't type...
[00:32]  * wxl gets a tool to relieve the pressure from tsimonq2's sphincter which is obviously so tight he can barely breathe
 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
[00:33] <tsimonq2> XD
 Downloaded and burned latest i386 image. Will test and report when I wake up tomorrow.
 Sweet!
 Helps to have an old Pentium4 laptop that not much runs on.
 hehe
[00:42] <lyorian> I think I have pentium IV stuff somewhwere in teh garage not sure if it works looks horrible trying to view on my 16:9 aspect ratio screen in 4:3
[00:43]  * lyorian has done more work on the manual
[00:43] <tsimonq2> Huzzah!
 Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Lubuntu Cosmic Cuttlefish Beta has been released! ... This is the first Lubuntu milestone to be released with LXQt as the main desktop environment. The Lubuntu project, in 18.10 and successive releases, will no longer support the LXDE desktop environment or tools, and will instead focus on the LXQt
[01:45] <guiverc> booting x86 daily on x86_64 hardware (>4gb of ram) -- is "ehci-pci 0000:00:a.7: dma_direct_map_sg: overflow 0x000000016e3f3000+2048 of device mask ffffffff"  (or equiv; typed in) normal/expected?  (image fine on other boxes!)
[02:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGa68bfa393ee6: Fix the rest of the posts up.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGa68bfa393ee6
[02:44] <wxl[m]> guiverc: did you check the hashes?
[03:08] <guiverc> wxl[m], zsync said no issues on download, thumb-drive "check disk for defects" pass (tested on another system), & [thumb-drive] worked on two systems, but that error on two (both having >4gb ram)
[03:23] <guiverc> fyi: that message repeats 'ad infinitum' & lubuntu never booted on (2x) x86_64 machines...
[04:08] <lyorian> guiverc come to think of it mine was greater than 4 GB of ram had that exact same message
[04:08] <lyorian> that is hard to report a bug on
[04:09] <lyorian> guiverc: do you happen to know if the laptop you have has 2 dimms of physical ram chips in it that are not soldiered
[04:10] <lyorian> is this a pae bug?
[04:10] <guiverc> sorry - reporting another issue currently...
[04:11] <lyorian> ok take your time and write a good report on that
[04:13]  * lyorian is thinking about taking a dimm out on one of the laptops that failed and then booting and seeing if it boots then we definetaly can tell it is related to the amount of RAM
[04:17] <guiverc> thanks lyorian  - didn't get message on hp dx6120 (desktop), d610 (dell laptop), but on both hp dc7700 & dell 755 (desktops); all have varying ram, but ones it failed on have 4 ddr2 dimms (varying capacity, non-soldered)
[04:18] <guiverc> (all machines mentioned are ~10 years old - if not more)
[04:37] <wxl> guiverc: lyorian: http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Bug-908924-dma-direct-map-sg-overflow-on-USB-access-after-upgrade-to-kernel-4-18-td4387757.html
[04:46] <wxl> seems like it's a usb issue of some kind with 4.18
[04:51] <wxl> so @TheWendyPower from what i can, if there is a *COMPLETE* /etc/xdg/lxqt/globalkeyshortcuts.conf, then you don't have to worry about removing the one in $HOME. assuming the order of daemons is correct, that should just work. if it doesn't, we can debug that, but i think that's a minimum. grab the one from $HOME and use that as a start. throw it into lubuntu-default-settings. sound good? 
[04:54] <lyorian> wxl that seems a likely culprit
[04:54] <wxl> indeed it seems to match: usb, 4.18, same messages, repeated multiple times
[05:06] <guiverc> THANK YOU wxl :)  (x100000) - i tested lubuntu awhile back with no issues on that 755, it would have been back in 4-17 days -- so I'm happy now!
[05:16] <guiverc> wxl, do you want me to report issue on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/390/builds/181504/testcases/1303/results/, report as [lp] bug, or just ignore?  (two systems had same message)
[05:26] <wxl[m]> guiverc: I would make a new bug on lp. And then see if we can figure out which conditions it applies to and which it doesn't. Other flavors, architectures, different USB devices and protocols (ehci should be 2.0), etc
[05:27] <wxl[m]> Include it on the tracker too but with clear information on the affected system
[05:27] <guiverc> thanks wxl[m] - will do.
[05:57] <guiverc> me being clear - that's a stretch !!  :)   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1794922   (but still getting lshw for 2nd machine..)
[06:08] <guiverc> done wxl (not sure about clear, but I tried..)
[06:39] <guiverc> lubuntu x86 iso - the countdown counter appears to change (redraw without erase, becoming a block) during language selection, then remain unchanged for 'try/install/check/test/boot' option - i've ignored it; but should I?
 @wxl I will see if the home file is complete. I was looking for the right repo for /etc/xdg/lxqt as it isn't in lubuntu-default-settings ... I've also got to get this 403 error resolved or figure out how to make that merge happy.
 @TheWendyPower [@wxl I will see if the home file is complete. I was looking for the right repo f …], there is etc/xdg/xdg_Lubuntu if you need/ etc/xdg/lxqt can create it in your clone, made the changes and arc diff them
[13:22] <wxl[m]> guiverc: thanks for the bug! Ignore anything to do with the look of the boot screen right now. Something is strange but we haven't put our finger on it yet.
[13:25] <wxl[m]> @TheWendyPower what @HMollerCl said is correct. Just make sure **only for this** to put the file in etc/xdg/lxqt. Normally we would use xdg-Lubuntu but this doesn't follow normal forms.
 @HMollerCl and @wxl thanks. The one in $HOME does seem to be complete.
[13:29] <wxl[m]> Yeah it should be
 Anyone up for some bug hunting?
 https://twitter.com/AspidistraFlyin/status/1045660782493618181?s=19
[15:17] <wxl> someone document this somewhere: the isolinux/gfxboot logos needs to be 256 colors or less. jesus.
 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA.
 IS THAT IT?
[15:18] <wxl> yeah. too many colors.
[15:18] <wxl> apparently gfxboot's problem, but i can't find it documented anywhere
 Huh.
[15:24] <wxl> @tsimonq2: not sure if you saw last night but keep an eye open for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1794922 it should be affecting usbs everywhere so as long as we're on 4.18
[15:24] <wxl> (or until a fix comes)
[15:25] <wxl> looks like debian's still working on it
 With kernel stuff, we separate that out completely from Debian iirc.
 Go ask in #ubuntu-kernel :)
[15:27] <wxl> i'm not worried about that. they'll figure it out. i'm just letting you know :)
 Mkay love you long time
[15:27] <wxl> although… this may be 32 bit only
 Ruh rooooh
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: not sure if you saw last night but keep an eye open for https:/ …], I've noticed the vim thing. Will look at it. On login screen I've seen that in a 2 monitor environment. Only one screen works. I asked him how many monitors he have
 anyone knows where the default (not ~.config/mimeapp.list) mimeapps.list is saved? I don't see it in xdg.
[15:41] <wxl> i'd start by looking at the lxqt-session defaults
[15:49] <wxl> lyorian: where is the manual code at?
[16:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAe046d0c5cba9: remove Depends variables, add lintian TODO] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAe046d0c5cba9
[16:13] <wxl> a little bit closer now on trojita
[16:19] <wxl> To ssh://phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/trojita.git
[16:19] <wxl>  ! [remote rejected] master -> master (unpacker error)
[16:19] <wxl> error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/trojita.git'  
[16:19] <wxl> O_O
[16:28] <wxl> OH
[16:28] <wxl> @tsimonq2: we're 100% in use which is why i can't push. PLEASE FIX NOW
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: we're 100% in use which is why i can't push. PLEASE FIX NOW], I THOUGHT YOU SAID REMOVING THE THINGS THAT ARE A GIG OR TWO WOULDN'T HELP
 :)
 When you remove the archive copy of a couple of things it should free up a gig or two.
 I can't do much from here. I can give us a virtual drive that can get us through but long term we're moving hosts.
 wxl: is there a bug for this bluedevil thing?
[16:46] <acheronuk> wxl tsimonq2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GWHZVQ8xZd/
[16:48] <acheronuk> building in https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/cosmic
[16:49] <tsimonq2> ack
[16:50] <wxl> acheronuk: no bug, actually. i guess you could make one: if you don't use plasma, this is required to expose the bluetooth functions
[16:50] <tsimonq2> Server (and thus IRC bridge etc.) is going down for some maintenance. Should last anywhere between 20 minutes and two hours, but we're doing a necessary storage upgrade.
[16:52] <acheronuk> wxl: might make release team happier if there was a bug, but not essential I guess. if they reject it requesting more paperwork we can quickly do it ;)
[16:55] <acheronuk> anyway. please just confirm changes really do what you want them to
[16:56] <wxl> done did
[17:03] <acheronuk> wxl: did done (upload)
[17:03] <wxl> danke
[17:03] <acheronuk> in freeze queue anyway
[17:05] <wxl> well we do have a FFe but i'm not sure what's necessary to get that going
[17:05] <wxl> i.e. how to apply it to this situation
[17:05] <acheronuk> now you say :P
[17:06] <wxl> well like i said, i don't know anything :)
[17:06] <wxl> on the other hand @tsimonq2 does so i blame him
[17:06] <tsimonq2> What bluedevil patch?
[17:06] <tsimonq2> XD
[17:07]  * acheronuk backs up irc logs
[17:07] <wxl> siiiiigh
[17:07] <wxl> the one that actually exposes the bluetooth controls
[17:08] <wxl> since bluedevil, the only reasonable qt bluetooth solution, is out-of-the-box dependent largely on a plasmoid
[17:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: pingalingling
[17:31] <tsimonq2> wxl: So apparently the disk space you initially get for a Digital Ocean droplet is what you have forever... so I just had to create a snapshot, and now we have more than 5x the disk space.
[17:32] <tsimonq2> Just waiting for processing.
[17:32] <tsimonq2> We'll also have to have IS change the wildcard domain entry over, but that's trivial.
[17:37] <wxl> ok cool
[17:40] <tsimonq2> wxl: Mkay, should be back in place. You might want to put /etc/hosts locally at 159.203.98.186 for phab.lubuntu.me et. al until DNS propogates.
[17:41] <wxl> kthx
[17:41] <wxl> ^folks
[17:41] <tsimonq2> Meanwhile, wanna do the rejoin dance real quick wxl?
[17:41] <tsimonq2> IRC <-> Telegram isn't back yet.
[17:41] <wxl> yeah
[17:41] <tsimonq2> Alright. Let me know when you're ready.
[17:41] <wxl> ok in 5
[17:41] <wxl> go
 All clear?
[17:43] <tsimonq2> Huzzah!
[17:43] <wxl> looks like it
 There was some activity on this end while the bridge was gone, relaying again.
 Fwd from brli7848: is there an easy way to configure lxqt's color scheme?
 Fwd from brli7848: I don't know why but using the lxqt appearance setting doesn't change color of the window
 Fwd from brli7848: ps. it does change the panel and wallpaper(if checked the alter user-defined wallpaper)
[17:44] <wxl> i think you have to dig into the actual theme for that @brli7848
[17:45] <tsimonq2> wxl: Push trojita again?
[17:46] <wxl> will in ~5-10
[17:46] <tsimonq2> k
[17:56] <tsimonq2> wxl, lyorian: Manual's now published at manual.lubuntu.me.
[18:02] <lyorian> ok
 will we have daily today?
 We should, within the hour.
[18:31] <wxl> did you just kick them off again?
 It's 1:30 PM my time and builds kickoff at about noon so they should just be finishing up.
 @wxl [<wxl> did you just kick them off again?], No, did you?
[18:31] <wxl> builds kick off at 1659 and it's 1831
[18:31] <wxl> they finished building at 1709
 OK, so they did build today.
 Qool.
[18:32] <wxl> but they're not on the tracker
[18:32] <wxl> i'm asking at -release
 Blame Adam. XD
[18:33] <wxl> i usually do
[20:02] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-artwork [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.8]
 now I can see current dailies. Downloading to test them.
[20:24] <wxl> @HMollerCl check that whole vim as default for text files
[20:24] <wxl> my memory is that's old but it's also possible that's old BUT BECAUSE NO ONE REPORTS BUGS it got forgotten about :)
 I'm on it (with not much time) at this moment the only thing that I know is that it's governed by .config/mimeapps.list but I don't know how it is created
[20:27] <wxl> is that really it?
[20:28] <wxl> apt-file search says that's from gdm
[20:29] <tsimonq2> wxl: No, WALTER doesn't report bugs. :P
[20:29] <wxl> you're right
[20:29] <wxl> i go fix them
[20:29] <wxl> unlike your twitter followers :/
[20:29] <acheronuk> bluedevil accepted into -proposed
[20:29] <wxl> (who do neither!)
[20:29] <wxl> gold star for acheronuk !
[20:29] <tsimonq2> wxl: OUR Twitter followers. :P
[20:30] <wxl> @tsimonq2: well you run the show there, so they're yours :)
[20:30] <tsimonq2> bah
[20:30] <wxl> unless you're saying you want to adopt the mastodon followers as yours, too
[20:30]  * wxl grins
[20:30] <tsimonq2> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[20:30] <tsimonq2> Mastodon has furries.
[20:30] <tsimonq2> Furries are bad.
[20:30] <tsimonq2> Therefore, Mastodon is bad.
[20:30] <tsimonq2> QED.
[20:31] <wxl> that's a terrible uninclusive perspective
[20:31] <wxl> that said, go fix your followers :)
[20:31] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 @wxl [<wxl> is that really it?], https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/11
[20:33] <wxl> ok so that suggests this can be fixed in what is most likely /etc/xdg/applications/mimeapps.list
[20:34] <tsimonq2> Oh hey btw wxl if you want something to chew on... Calamares currently is a GUI application that starts as root (yes, *gasp*, I know) but try passing the -E argument to sudo in the desktop file before clicking it.
[20:34] <tsimonq2> That makes theming look MUCH better.
[20:35] <tsimonq2> But, if that didn't make you pull your hair out enough, running Cala as root, with sudo or pkexec, you can't actually click the link in the installer and have it work.
[20:35] <tsimonq2> You know, the "Support" link.
[20:36] <wxl> oh fun
[20:36] <wxl> file a bug love you bye :)
[20:36] <wxl> (or maybe put it on +2)
 @wxl [<wxl> ok so that suggests this can be fixed in what is most likely /etc/xdg/appl …], how do you know it is in xdg/applications and not only xdg ? because in the user it in in .config not .config/applications
[20:39] <wxl> @HMollerCl the bug says $XDG_DATA_HOME echo should be /etc/xdg, if i'm not wrong
 good pint, but also says:  ... libfm-pref-apps is writing into $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/mimeapps.list
[20:41] <wxl> true enough
 will have to read the manual in cpp.
[20:46] <wxl> there is /etc/gnome/defaults.list
[20:48] <wxl> i'm not finding mimeapps* anywher
[20:52] <wxl> huh
[20:52] <wxl> xdg-mime query default text/plain
[20:52] <wxl> org.gnome.gedit.desktop
[20:53] <wxl> wooooot
 schema.override?
[20:53] <wxl> yeah i don't know
[20:53] <wxl> i mean this should basically derive from the default database shared-mime-info
[20:54] <wxl> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/latest/ar01s04.html
[20:55] <wxl> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/latest/ar01s02.html
[20:56] <wxl> to be fair it doesn't open vim for me but libreoffice
 that happend to me in the latest dailies I tried with .conf
[20:58] <wxl> ah
[20:58] <wxl> /usr/share/application/defaults.list
 Huzzah: https://l10n.lubuntu.me/cosmic-beta-released/es/
 @wxl [<wxl> /usr/share/application/defaults.list], could be, I read that in ubuntu 14.04 was in /usr/share/application/mimeapps.list
[21:00] <wxl> it's certainly there
[21:01] <wxl> and to be honest the current spec seems to suggest it should be mimeapps.list
[21:01] <wxl> it's just not
[21:01] <wxl> sigh
 mimeapps.list for working, default for creating the first mimeapps.list
[21:03] <wxl> well mimeapps does work
[21:06] <wxl> @HMollerCl /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/mimeapps.list
[21:06] <wxl> [Default Applications]
[21:06] <wxl> plain/text:featherpad.desktop
[21:06] <wxl> that's all you need
 right!
 that makes sense
 it's friday from a loooong week.
[21:08] <wxl> i KNOW XD
[21:08]  * wxl has to go driving to an out-of-town event with $child soon
 ls
 sorry, wrong window
 Now I have a question, this is in the same same repository as D17 that hasn't been closed yet. ... So, how should I handle this? new commit? Or same? If it's news, should I create a new directory clonening the repository? Because if I pull the changes from D17 would be overrided in my working directory, right?
[21:20] <wxl> you could add to D17
[21:21] <wxl> if you don't have the working copy you grab the repo, then `arc patch D17` then make changes and `arc diff`
[21:21] <wxl> are we waiting on @tsimonq2 for D17?
 Are we?
[21:22] <wxl> aren't we/
[21:22] <wxl> :)
 I blame wxl. XD
[21:22] <wxl> unlikely
 Just put 'er in one.
 Less hassle to get through queues.
[21:23] <wxl> huh?
[21:23] <wxl> you saying make a new one?
 I'm saying put both of the changes in one.
 D17
 Breeze is in current daily, it worked
 Sweeeet.
 Is there a reason to be 2 screenshots app? Screen grab and other one I don't know his name?
[21:31] <wxl> ^^ @tsimonq2 
 What's the name of the other one?
 Mm it appears in the menu, the first one in graphics
 LXImage-Qt?
 Could be, with a startup flag
 (Photo, 559x155) https://i.imgur.com/4qj2I9T.jpg
 Right. Let's axe screengrab.
 I think screen grab is not necessary
 Agreed.
 @wxl [<wxl> plain/text:featherpad.desktop], isn't it text/plain ?
[21:41] <wxl> that's what i meant XD
 I also have application/x-shellscript=featherpad.desktop; should I add it?
 Heeeya wxl, so is xserver-xorg-input-synaptics kind of an important package?
[21:45] <wxl> sure @HMollerCl. whatever seems reasonable. feel free to dig through all of the desktop.list and see what you might want to change
[21:45] <wxl> just ignore firefox references because it appears that lxqt settings have precedence over that
[21:45] <wxl> @tsimonq2: um depends on who you ask :)
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: um depends on who you ask :)], Does every other flavor besides Lubuntu have it in 18.04?
[21:46] <wxl> theoretically libinput has superceded the need for synaptics but i still hear chatter about it not supporting this device or that device or this feature or that feature
[21:46] <wxl> but synaptics should be considered, at least, on its way out
 What about for 18.04?
[21:47] <wxl> more questionable
 "Hi Simon, ... I needed to try to see if you would happen to know of a particular reason why the following is no longer part of an 18.04 default install? ... xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ... This is as I'm trying to find out how we can go about getting Trackpad Hotkey functionality in 18.04.1 LTS? ... The Trackpad Hotkey seems to be 
[21:51] <wxl> apt-rdepends -r xserver-xorg-input-synaptics| grep ^[a-z]*-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> Reading package lists... Done
[21:51] <wxl> Building dependency tree       
[21:51] <wxl> Reading state information... Done
[21:51] <wxl> lubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> kubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> mythbuntu-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> ubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> edubuntu-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> ubuntukylin-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> ubuntustudio-desktop
[21:51] <wxl> ubuntustudio-desktop-core
[21:51] <wxl> xubuntu-desktop
[21:53] <wxl> so probably something broken about their system
[21:53] <wxl> er wait a minute
[21:53] <wxl> ah heck that's xenial
[21:55] <wxl> in bionic we're the only noes
[21:55] <wxl> but we do have it
 added featherpad as default viewer in D17, D21 is for screengrab removal
 wxl: https://twitter.com/grufwub/status/1045612321857523712?s=19
[22:52] <wxl[m]> 👾
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> 👾], Should show up on Mastodon too, Lubuntu RTed it.
[22:53] <wxl[m]> Nice