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didrocksgood morning06:24
jibelgood morning07:15
WimpressYawn. Morning didrocks jibel07:21
jibelHi Wimpress07:23
didrocksmorning jibel, Wimpress07:26
willcookeahoy shipmates07:46
didrockshey willcooke07:47
willcookehow goes didrocks?07:47
didrockswillcooke: ok, and you?07:48
willcookeGlad it's Friday07:48
willcookebut another week gone07:49
willcookeGetting to grips with the new gimp07:49
willcookeThey moved my cheese07:49
didrocksgood :)07:51
Laneyyo08:04
Trevinhoya08:08
Laneyye yi yu08:08
didrockshey Laney, Trevinho08:09
* Laney gives didrocks the secret desktop team handshake08:13
Laney(no, it's not like that you perverts)08:14
didrocks:p08:15
Laneycold is worse today08:19
TrevinhoCh'ti's land is actually quite warm these days.08:24
Trevinhoah, Laney I was forgetting... can you give a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/355192 ?08:24
Trevinhonope, as it's missing the changelog it seems08:24
Trevinhogbp dch for the glory08:25
Laneycan do later on probably08:26
willcookeLaney, how do you fell about making the images in the installer slideshow jpegs as well?  Goes from ~ 1 MB for PNG to 400K for JPG.08:29
willcookeNo real difference in image quality since they are quite small dimensions08:30
Laneywhat has happened between bionic and cosmic?08:31
Laneylaney@nightingale> du -hs .                                                                                                                               ~/temp/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-139/slideshows/ubuntu/slides/screenshots08:31
Laney604K.08:31
Laneyjpegs for screenshots isn't really the best idea imo08:31
willcookekk, I'll see if I can do some better optimisation08:31
willcookePNGcrush had no luck08:32
Laneytry zopfli08:32
TrevinhoLaney: ok, thanks. It's updated btw now.08:32
Laneythx!08:32
* willcooke googles08:32
Trevinhowell jpg on low compression level is stilll cheaper and really quality normally, but indeed something is lost. not really much noticeable I think, though08:33
willcookesaved 200k by removing embedded thumbnails08:41
willcookewoah08:46
willcookeAn online panda just saved 71% of the file size08:46
willcooketoo good to be true perhaps08:46
* willcooke tries with the wallpaper08:46
willcooke?!?!?!?!?!08:49
willcookeLaney, 260K now08:50
willcookefor the slideshow images08:50
LaneyO_O08:50
Laneylook good still?08:50
willcookeyeah, I can't tell teh difference08:52
willcookealso, wallpaper down to 1MB PNG08:52
willcookeand I can't tell the difference there either08:53
Laneyhaha08:53
Laneywhat is this tool08:53
willcookehttps://tinypng.com/08:53
willcookeI love it08:53
LaneyMP away for the slideshow then08:53
Laneyiirc cyphermox usually reviews that one08:54
willcookeon it08:54
willcookeLaney, see what you think of this:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hU43L8Fwmp5VN_VHX6CwAjudXUpfVEEy/view?usp=sharing08:54
willcookethat's the wallpaper after the panda did it's thing08:54
willcookein eog I can't tell the difference08:54
oSoMoNLaney, thanks for syncing evince!08:55
Laneynps08:55
Laneyactually it was already in the queue though08:55
Laneywhich is good because I can accept it then :-)08:56
oSoMoNtrue, jbicha beat you to it08:57
oSoMoNso duplicate sync requests are not automatically rejected?08:58
Laneyno08:58
Laneythe queue sucks in that respect08:58
Laneywillcooke: looks a little bit more bandy to me08:58
Laneyin the bottom left08:58
willcookeLooks the same as the compressed png from design on my monitor - that is to say, just as bandy09:00
willcookeOh09:00
willcookemaybe I tried to compress the compressed one09:00
willcookeI'll check09:00
willcookeyes09:01
willcookeThe panda will only accept a 5MB file, and the original is 909:01
willcooke(!!)09:01
willcookeI'll fiddle with it later09:01
willcookeIf I can get it down to <5 then I can try again09:01
Laneywho compresses the compressors themselves09:01
willcooke:)09:03
willcooketiny pandas it seems09:03
willcookeMP up:  https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/35582109:07
willcookeIf anyone would like to take a quick look at the new screenshots I'd appreciate it09:07
didrockswe have an UIFe coming for Yaru btw09:07
willcookedidrocks, might be relevent to your interests - screenshots with Yaru ^09:07
didrocksunsure how much you are impacted by them :)09:08
willcookedidrocks, will that need screenshots redoing?09:08
* didrocks looks09:08
didrocksif only launchpad MP had a simple way to view binary files09:08
willcookeikr09:08
willcookedidrocks, you want me to put them somewhere easy?09:08
* jibel looks at the screenshot09:08
jibels09:08
willcookewont take a look09:08
willcooke*take long09:08
willcookeone sec09:08
willcookehttps://imgur.com/a/RjeuBbb09:09
willcookedidrocks, jibel  ^09:09
jibelI pulled the branch09:10
willcooke:)09:10
didrockswillcooke: you shouldn't be impacted (I went to the download options :p)09:10
willcookedidrocks, \o/ thank you!09:10
didrocksnice shotwell screenshot btw :p09:10
willcooke:)09:10
willcookewhy not, right?09:10
* willcooke makes tea09:11
jibelnice one indeed09:11
jibel:)09:11
willcookedidrocks, you can't see it in that screenshot, but I called that photo "IT Team"09:11
didrockswillcooke: haha, good one :p09:12
willcookecyphermox, I put you as a reviewer for the slideshow, and Wimpress asked me to ask you to look at the MATE MP as well09:16
willcookecc anyone who might merge it ^09:16
* Laney is trying 175% scaling09:22
Laneynot sure about this09:23
Laneygreat, now firefox is huge for some reason09:25
jibelwillcooke, approved. Where is the MP for Mate?09:29
willcookejibel, thank you!09:33
willcookeWimpress, got a link for the MATE slideshow? ^09:34
jibelI'll review kylin too09:36
Wimpresswillcooke: tsimonq2 merged my proposal last night.09:36
handsome_fengjibel: Thanks!09:38
willcookejibel, were you seeing cosmic take a long time to get to a log in screen on a vm yesterday?10:39
willcookeI didnt see that problem yesterday, but today with the same images, I am. ??!10:40
willcookeha, it worked this time10:40
willcookeI assume it's all part of the same problem10:40
jibelwillcooke,yes, I saw snaps being installed. But I think it's because xorg didn't come up so you see the console11:40
willcookeLaney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/179496711:56
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1794967 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 18.10 Free Culture Showcase community wallpapers" [Undecided,New]11:56
willcookea thousand thank yous11:56
Laneywillcooke: they're not ×2160?12:03
willcookethe aspectratios were all over the place, so I have to crop them to 16:912:04
willcookeI'll see if I can get them more standardised12:04
willcookeah, right, I should crop to 16:9 then resize12:05
willcookesec12:05
Laney:312:06
Laneymuch appreciated, then no upscaling on 4k screens12:08
willcooke4k is still 16:9 right?12:09
Laneycan't remember if it's 9 or 1012:10
* willcooke google12:10
willcookelooks like 16:912:11
willcookethat should be ok12:11
* Laney git rm debian/patches/disable-bubblewrap.patch12:14
willcooke:)12:15
willcookeLaney, fresh tgz uploaded12:31
Laneythx12:31
* oSoMoN wishes all architectures built as fast as s390x12:55
ogralets just drop all the others12:55
oSoMoNwfm12:56
oSoMoN"focus is the key to success"12:56
didrocks./remove-package -y -m "oSoMoN said so" -a amd64 -a x86 -a armhf -a armel64 -a ppcel64 *12:58
ograTGIF !13:01
oSoMoNthat was a good week :)13:02
didrockskthxbye ;)13:02
didrocksachievement: dropped maintenance by 80%13:02
ogra"reduced build times by the ssame amount"13:03
ogra-s13:03
didrocksheh13:03
kenvandineoSoMoN: do you think you can review that MR today?  I'd like to get it promoted to stable by Monday13:53
oSoMoNkenvandine, right, I'm still busy fixing firefox build failures but I'll make room for that review this afternoon13:55
kenvandineoSoMoN: thanks13:55
Laneyhttps://blogs.gnome.org/kalev/2018/09/28/gnome-software-mini-hackfest/14:32
Laneymight interest some of yous14:32
willcookethanks Laney14:40
oSoMoNkenvandine, I suppose that technically an app could request icons from the theme by name for other apps or for the panel, but most apps won't, so it's fine to remove those icons from the common themes snap?15:09
kenvandineoSoMoN: i think so15:10
kenvandinethose add a ton of space15:10
kenvandineand i can't think of a good use case to justify adding 80M :)15:10
oSoMoNright, so it's a trade-off that we should probably document, because someday a bug might be reported against a snap because it can't find the missing icons15:10
oSoMoNthere's already a comment but maybe it could be more explicit15:11
kenvandinesure15:11
oSoMoNI'm gonna test building the snap locally to confirm the decrease in size15:12
kenvandineit's most noticeable after we add the Mint-X and Mint-Y themes15:12
kenvandinebut I've avoided adding those until after this is merged15:13
xnoxI like updated theme stuff.15:22
xnoxi do not like updated hexchat, which is not updated for the new theme stuff, and as i bit too-grey for my liking =)15:22
xnox(i mean to white-grey; would be nice to have it more dark-grey like gnome-terminal)15:23
xnoxbut i guess it is up to me to fix =)15:23
willcookeI guess hexchat is gtk215:28
willcookehttps://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/204715:29
gitbothexchat issue 2047 in hexchat "Port to gtk3" [Enhancement, Open]15:29
willcooke:)15:29
xnoxwillcooke, ah! that would be it.16:41
xnoxi wish there was a good irc client....16:41
willcookeg'night all, happy weekend17:06
oSoMoNhave a good week-end everyone17:12
* Laney wibbles17:14
Laneytrying to get the wallpapers uploaded pre weekend17:14
LaneyDONE17:39
Laneynight!17:39
kenvandineLaney: great, have a good weekend!17:39

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