[06:24] <didrocks> good morning
[07:15] <jibel> good morning
[07:21] <Wimpress> Yawn. Morning didrocks jibel
[07:23] <jibel> Hi Wimpress
[07:26] <didrocks> morning jibel, Wimpress
[07:46] <willcooke> ahoy shipmates
[07:47] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[07:47] <willcooke> how goes didrocks?
[07:48] <didrocks> willcooke: ok, and you?
[07:48] <willcooke> Glad it's Friday
[07:49] <willcooke> but another week gone
[07:49] <willcooke> Getting to grips with the new gimp
[07:49] <willcooke> They moved my cheese
[07:51] <didrocks> good :)
[08:04] <Laney> yo
[08:08] <Trevinho> ya
[08:08] <Laney> ye yi yu
[08:09] <didrocks> hey Laney, Trevinho
[08:13]  * Laney gives didrocks the secret desktop team handshake
[08:14] <Laney> (no, it's not like that you perverts)
[08:15] <didrocks> :p
[08:19] <Laney> cold is worse today
[08:24] <Trevinho> Ch'ti's land is actually quite warm these days.
[08:24] <Trevinho> ah, Laney I was forgetting... can you give a look to https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+git/nautilus/+merge/355192 ?
[08:24] <Trevinho> nope, as it's missing the changelog it seems
[08:25] <Trevinho> gbp dch for the glory
[08:26] <Laney> can do later on probably
[08:29] <willcooke> Laney, how do you fell about making the images in the installer slideshow jpegs as well?  Goes from ~ 1 MB for PNG to 400K for JPG.
[08:30] <willcooke> No real difference in image quality since they are quite small dimensions
[08:31] <Laney> what has happened between bionic and cosmic?
[08:31] <Laney> laney@nightingale> du -hs .                                                                                                                               ~/temp/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu-139/slideshows/ubuntu/slides/screenshots
[08:31] <Laney> 604K	.
[08:31] <Laney> jpegs for screenshots isn't really the best idea imo
[08:31] <willcooke> kk, I'll see if I can do some better optimisation
[08:32] <willcooke> PNGcrush had no luck
[08:32] <Laney> try zopfli
[08:32] <Trevinho> Laney: ok, thanks. It's updated btw now.
[08:32] <Laney> thx!
[08:32]  * willcooke googles
[08:33] <Trevinho> well jpg on low compression level is stilll cheaper and really quality normally, but indeed something is lost. not really much noticeable I think, though
[08:41] <willcooke> saved 200k by removing embedded thumbnails
[08:46] <willcooke> woah
[08:46] <willcooke> An online panda just saved 71% of the file size
[08:46] <willcooke> too good to be true perhaps
[08:46]  * willcooke tries with the wallpaper
[08:49] <willcooke> ?!?!?!?!?!
[08:50] <willcooke> Laney, 260K now
[08:50] <willcooke> for the slideshow images
[08:50] <Laney> O_O
[08:50] <Laney> look good still?
[08:52] <willcooke> yeah, I can't tell teh difference
[08:52] <willcooke> also, wallpaper down to 1MB PNG
[08:53] <willcooke> and I can't tell the difference there either
[08:53] <Laney> haha
[08:53] <Laney> what is this tool
[08:53] <willcooke> https://tinypng.com/
[08:53] <willcooke> I love it
[08:53] <Laney> MP away for the slideshow then
[08:54] <Laney> iirc cyphermox usually reviews that one
[08:54] <willcooke> on it
[08:54] <willcooke> Laney, see what you think of this:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hU43L8Fwmp5VN_VHX6CwAjudXUpfVEEy/view?usp=sharing
[08:54] <willcooke> that's the wallpaper after the panda did it's thing
[08:54] <willcooke> in eog I can't tell the difference
[08:55] <oSoMoN> Laney, thanks for syncing evince!
[08:55] <Laney> nps
[08:55] <Laney> actually it was already in the queue though
[08:56] <Laney> which is good because I can accept it then :-)
[08:57] <oSoMoN> true, jbicha beat you to it
[08:58] <oSoMoN> so duplicate sync requests are not automatically rejected?
[08:58] <Laney> no
[08:58] <Laney> the queue sucks in that respect
[08:58] <Laney> willcooke: looks a little bit more bandy to me
[08:58] <Laney> in the bottom left
[09:00] <willcooke> Looks the same as the compressed png from design on my monitor - that is to say, just as bandy
[09:00] <willcooke> Oh
[09:00] <willcooke> maybe I tried to compress the compressed one
[09:00] <willcooke> I'll check
[09:01] <willcooke> yes
[09:01] <willcooke> The panda will only accept a 5MB file, and the original is 9
[09:01] <willcooke> (!!)
[09:01] <willcooke> I'll fiddle with it later
[09:01] <willcooke> If I can get it down to <5 then I can try again
[09:01] <Laney> who compresses the compressors themselves
[09:03] <willcooke> :)
[09:03] <willcooke> tiny pandas it seems
[09:07] <willcooke> MP up:  https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+merge/355821
[09:07] <willcooke> If anyone would like to take a quick look at the new screenshots I'd appreciate it
[09:07] <didrocks> we have an UIFe coming for Yaru btw
[09:07] <willcooke> didrocks, might be relevent to your interests - screenshots with Yaru ^
[09:08] <didrocks> unsure how much you are impacted by them :)
[09:08] <willcooke> didrocks, will that need screenshots redoing?
[09:08]  * didrocks looks
[09:08] <didrocks> if only launchpad MP had a simple way to view binary files
[09:08] <willcooke> ikr
[09:08] <willcooke> didrocks, you want me to put them somewhere easy?
[09:08]  * jibel looks at the screenshot
[09:08] <jibel> s
[09:08] <willcooke> wont take a look
[09:08] <willcooke> *take long
[09:08] <willcooke> one sec
[09:09] <willcooke> https://imgur.com/a/RjeuBbb
[09:09] <willcooke> didrocks, jibel  ^
[09:10] <jibel> I pulled the branch
[09:10] <willcooke> :)
[09:10] <didrocks> willcooke: you shouldn't be impacted (I went to the download options :p)
[09:10] <willcooke> didrocks, \o/ thank you!
[09:10] <didrocks> nice shotwell screenshot btw :p
[09:10] <willcooke> :)
[09:10] <willcooke> why not, right?
[09:11]  * willcooke makes tea
[09:11] <jibel> nice one indeed
[09:11] <jibel> :)
[09:11] <willcooke> didrocks, you can't see it in that screenshot, but I called that photo "IT Team"
[09:12] <didrocks> willcooke: haha, good one :p
[09:16] <willcooke> cyphermox, I put you as a reviewer for the slideshow, and Wimpress asked me to ask you to look at the MATE MP as well
[09:16] <willcooke> cc anyone who might merge it ^
[09:22]  * Laney is trying 175% scaling
[09:23] <Laney> not sure about this
[09:25] <Laney> great, now firefox is huge for some reason
[09:29] <jibel> willcooke, approved. Where is the MP for Mate?
[09:33] <willcooke> jibel, thank you!
[09:34] <willcooke> Wimpress, got a link for the MATE slideshow? ^
[09:36] <jibel> I'll review kylin too
[09:36] <Wimpress> willcooke: tsimonq2 merged my proposal last night.
[09:38] <handsome_feng> jibel: Thanks!
[10:39] <willcooke> jibel, were you seeing cosmic take a long time to get to a log in screen on a vm yesterday?
[10:40] <willcooke> I didnt see that problem yesterday, but today with the same images, I am. ??!
[10:40] <willcooke> ha, it worked this time
[10:40] <willcooke> I assume it's all part of the same problem
[11:40] <jibel> willcooke,yes, I saw snaps being installed. But I think it's because xorg didn't come up so you see the console
[11:56] <willcooke> Laney, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1794967
[11:56] <willcooke> a thousand thank yous
[12:03] <Laney> willcooke: they're not ×2160?
[12:04] <willcooke> the aspectratios were all over the place, so I have to crop them to 16:9
[12:04] <willcooke> I'll see if I can get them more standardised
[12:05] <willcooke> ah, right, I should crop to 16:9 then resize
[12:05] <willcooke> sec
[12:06] <Laney> :3
[12:08] <Laney> much appreciated, then no upscaling on 4k screens
[12:09] <willcooke> 4k is still 16:9 right?
[12:10] <Laney> can't remember if it's 9 or 10
[12:10]  * willcooke google
[12:11] <willcooke> looks like 16:9
[12:11] <willcooke> that should be ok
[12:14]  * Laney git rm debian/patches/disable-bubblewrap.patch
[12:15] <willcooke> :)
[12:31] <willcooke> Laney, fresh tgz uploaded
[12:31] <Laney> thx
[12:55]  * oSoMoN wishes all architectures built as fast as s390x
[12:55] <ogra> lets just drop all the others
[12:56] <oSoMoN> wfm
[12:56] <oSoMoN> "focus is the key to success"
[12:58] <didrocks> ./remove-package -y -m "oSoMoN said so" -a amd64 -a x86 -a armhf -a armel64 -a ppcel64 *
[13:01] <ogra> TGIF !
[13:02] <oSoMoN> that was a good week :)
[13:02] <didrocks> kthxbye ;)
[13:02] <didrocks> achievement: dropped maintenance by 80%
[13:03] <ogra> "reduced build times by the ssame amount"
[13:03] <ogra> -s
[13:03] <didrocks> heh
[13:53] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: do you think you can review that MR today?  I'd like to get it promoted to stable by Monday
[13:55] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, right, I'm still busy fixing firefox build failures but I'll make room for that review this afternoon
[13:55] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: thanks
[14:32] <Laney> https://blogs.gnome.org/kalev/2018/09/28/gnome-software-mini-hackfest/
[14:32] <Laney> might interest some of yous
[14:40] <willcooke> thanks Laney
[15:09] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, I suppose that technically an app could request icons from the theme by name for other apps or for the panel, but most apps won't, so it's fine to remove those icons from the common themes snap?
[15:10] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: i think so
[15:10] <kenvandine> those add a ton of space
[15:10] <kenvandine> and i can't think of a good use case to justify adding 80M :)
[15:10] <oSoMoN> right, so it's a trade-off that we should probably document, because someday a bug might be reported against a snap because it can't find the missing icons
[15:11] <oSoMoN> there's already a comment but maybe it could be more explicit
[15:11] <kenvandine> sure
[15:12] <oSoMoN> I'm gonna test building the snap locally to confirm the decrease in size
[15:12] <kenvandine> it's most noticeable after we add the Mint-X and Mint-Y themes
[15:13] <kenvandine> but I've avoided adding those until after this is merged
[15:22] <xnox> I like updated theme stuff.
[15:22] <xnox> i do not like updated hexchat, which is not updated for the new theme stuff, and as i bit too-grey for my liking =)
[15:23] <xnox> (i mean to white-grey; would be nice to have it more dark-grey like gnome-terminal)
[15:23] <xnox> but i guess it is up to me to fix =)
[15:28] <willcooke> I guess hexchat is gtk2
[15:29] <willcooke> https://github.com/hexchat/hexchat/issues/2047
[15:29] <gitbot> hexchat issue 2047 in hexchat "Port to gtk3" [Enhancement, Open]
[15:29] <willcooke> :)
[16:41] <xnox> willcooke, ah! that would be it.
[16:41] <xnox> i wish there was a good irc client....
[17:06] <willcooke> g'night all, happy weekend
[17:12] <oSoMoN> have a good week-end everyone
[17:14]  * Laney wibbles
[17:14] <Laney> trying to get the wallpapers uploaded pre weekend
[17:39] <Laney> DONE
[17:39] <Laney> night!
[17:39] <kenvandine> Laney: great, have a good weekend!