[00:44] <bluesabre> flocculant: thanks for the help, tidied up and added details to the release notes
=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash
[05:11] <flocculant> bluesabre: thanks
[06:18] <Unit193> bluesabre: ...Uhh...We never picked up xfwm4 4.12.5? >_<
[06:23] <Unit193> http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfwm4-4-12-5-released-td51453.html ?
[09:54] <bluesabre> Unit193: huh, how'd we miss that?
[09:55] <Unit193> Too busy looking at GTK3...
[09:56] <bluesabre> :)
[10:35] <brainwash> why not 4.13?
[10:37] <Unit193> It's not reliable.
[10:37] <brainwash> not even .1?
[10:38] <brainwash> https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/x/xfwm4/xfwm4_4.13.1-1_changelog
[10:38] <Unit193> It was better.
[10:39] <Unit193> It's in the experimental PPA so people can test it though.
[10:43] <brainwash> I guess they can
[11:26] <Unit193> bluesabre: Can we slip that bugfix release in?
[11:29] <bluesabre> Unit193: go for it
[11:42] <akxwi-dave> flocculant: aye it happened on the 64bit iso but the 32bit was fine..   I'll recheck on a different machine and fresh install of vbox tonight, just incase its something lingering
[11:48] <brainwash> Unit193: did you answer re ubiquity panel in xubuntu?
[11:49] <brainwash> there are no indicators to show, so the panel could be hidden again
[11:49] <brainwash> https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/commit/?id=f8356ea277efc8dded2bc7057e6e161383f73884
[11:50] <Unit193> brainwash: Based on the ping, I did not.  I'm not entirely sure what was broken which caused me to say that, but since it's not displaying anything anymore..
[11:50] <Unit193> Wonder what would happen if we had indicator-application on the ISO...
[11:51] <Unit193> In theory it shouldn't start in the live session, and we already have xubuntu-live-settings that's only on the ISO...Hmm...
[11:52] <brainwash> could work, but how to test this?
[11:52] <Unit193> Crack open an ISO, stick it in, tape it shut?
[11:52] <brainwash> with indicator-application it would allow nm-applet to show up
[11:53] <Unit193> Exactly.
[11:53] <brainwash> -sound is not really needed
[11:53] <Unit193> Mhmm.
[11:54] <brainwash> and -session was never used in xubuntu, but could be handy during the Welcome screen
[11:54] <brainwash> to shutdown the system etc
[11:55] <Unit193> Isn't there a screen to connect to wireless anyway though?
[11:56] <brainwash> probably
[11:56] <brainwash> in that case the empty panel could be just hidden
[11:57] <brainwash> or left like it is now
[12:47] <knome> bluesabre, Unit193: do we need UIFe's for other packages than artwork for the wallpaper?
[12:50] <knome> bluesabre, Unit193: bug 1794978
[12:50] <ubottu> bug 1794978 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "[UIFe] New wallpaper for Xubuntu 18.10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794978
[12:50] <knome> anything to add or should i sub -release?
[17:28] <brainwash> bluesabre: changelogs for ristretto, tumbler and libxfce4util are missing in the release notes
[19:34] <flocculant> brainwash: re bug 1572792 - pretty sure someone xfce'ish told me kind of expected - even if it is bizarre, noted what I see here in 18.04 to the report
[19:34] <ubottu> bug 1572792 in Ubuntu "Drag and drop copies files instead of moving them" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1572792
[19:40] <brainwash> flocculant: I think this is related to how the live session mounts/handles the home partition
[19:41] <brainwash> it should work the opposite like you describe in your comment
[19:42] <brainwash> ultimately, not something thunar specific
[19:43] <brainwash> the bug reporter used the live session cuz he mentions /home/xubuntu
[19:46] <flocculant> right - well it's not live session specific - I saw the bug show in tbird - checked it to remind myself
[19:47] <flocculant> pretty sure I checked way back when I first saw it on a live session with one of my drives mounted
[19:48] <flocculant> also - think there is an xfce report for it but can't check as bugzilla is down
[19:48] <brainwash> oh yeah. still down.
[19:52] <ochosi> yeah, may stay like this over the weekend
[19:52] <ochosi> because the university we're hosted at has some network troubles
[19:53] <ochosi> or at least our servers do
[22:05] <bluesabre> knome, thanks. I'll work on getting it approved this weekend
[22:05] <bluesabre> Or just upload with that bug report in tow.
[22:06] <bluesabre> knome: where are the files
[22:10] <bluesabre> :)
[23:52] <guiverc_d> would old x86 [32bit] (18.10) daily images be available for download - (need one with 4.17 kernel for comparison; xubuntu)  -- I could use bionic