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lubot<kc2bez> Boosted the toot!00:03
lubot<tsimonq2> Huzzah!00:06
lubot<Dreamingwolf> HP zd8000 Pentium4 @3.4 (single core with hyperthreading) AMD ATI Mobility Radion X600 2Gb of RAM.  ... 32bit iso burned to a dvd.  ... Installed cleanly even in an optical drive that tends to overheat and lock up. Was it intentional to have no 'Erase disk' option in the installer? Also would personally like a 'use same password 02:37
lubotfor administrator' option (but understand why it's not there)  ... System rebooted with no problems and updated cleanly. System seems lean and quick.  ... Will update further as I add my usual array of muck to the system.02:37
lubot<Dreamingwolf> No Broadcom support out of the box, but track pad and logitech mouse (via dongle) work flawlessly.02:37
wxl[m]Blame Broadcom02:39
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Blame Broadcom], What's the deal with Broadcom drivers anyway?02:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Why are they so freaking problematic and is there anything we can do about it, at all?02:40
lubot<brli7848> they didn't release any new driver ever since 3.x kernel series IIRC02:40
lubot<brli7848> the rest of support up to 4.0x was done by patching the last release02:41
lubot<brli7848> they claim to contribute to kernel but the fact is their upstreamed kernel module (bcm, or, the supported hardware list) is always a few model behind the latest02:42
lubot<tsimonq2> Harumph.02:45
lubot<Dreamingwolf> Siduction 18.3.0 has them working out of the box. Any chance of stealing their setup? (It was their x64 version I had on this laptop)02:46
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: IT'S ALWAYS ALF'S FAULT XD02:49
lubot<Dreamingwolf> LOL02:49
wxl[m]Siduction doesn't care about using proprietary binary blobs02:57
lubot<tsimonq2> True.02:57
wxl[m]Alf hates free software02:57
lubot<tsimonq2> agaida doesn't care. XD02:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Exaaaactly.02:57
wxl[m]So no we won't02:58
wxl[m]Of course we do too since we're using Telegram 😭02:58
lubot<Dreamingwolf> Is it available under additional drivers like Nvidia? Hasn't found that part of settings yet.03:02
wxl[m]There's a package who's sole purpose is to download the binaries03:03
wxl[m]That way we don't have to dirty our repos with them 😁03:04
lubot<Dreamingwolf> B43 cutter installer or something. I installed that from the software installer already.03:04
krytarik!info ubuntu-drivers-common | More general like this03:33
ubot93More general like this: ubuntu-drivers-common (source: ubuntu-drivers-common): Detect and install additional Ubuntu driver packages. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.5.4 (cosmic), package size 39.5 kB, installed size 209 kB03:33
lubot<Dreamingwolf> Thank you12:12
lubot<HMollerCl> @Dreamingwolf [B43 cutter installer or something. I installed that from the software installer …], here is a compiliation of different methods for broadcom http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers13:19
lubot<Dreamingwolf> Excellent! Thank you @HMollerCl !13:20
lubot<HMollerCl> IN my case what work was: ... $sudo apt-get remove —purge bcmwl-kernel-source ... $sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer b43-fwcutter ... blacklists: ... $cat /etc/modprobe.d/* | egrep 'bcm ... (You may want to copy this) and see if the term 'blacklist bcm43xx' is there. ... If it is, type cd /etc/modprobe.d/ and then $sudo le13:22
lubotafpad blacklist.conf ... Put a # in front of the line: blacklist bcm43xx ... reboot13:22
lubot<HMollerCl> $sudo modprobe -r b43 ... $sudo modprobe b43     ... $sudo rfkill unblock all13:22
lubot<HMollerCl> when if turno wireless on/off Ihad to  ... $sudo rfkill unblock all ... tomo make it work again13:23
lubot<HMollerCl> of course, it was a bcm43xx13:23
lubot<Dreamingwolf> Again, thank you. I'll try that when I'm back at testing. Nuling and paving my desktop… again… at the moment.13:40
lubot<Dreamingwolf> *nuking not nuling*13:41
wxllooks like the bluetooth stuff should be in the menu now https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluedevil/4:5.13.5-0ubuntu2 @tsimonq2 do we need to do something to get around freeze with this?17:03
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> looks like the bluetooth stuff should be in the menu now https://launchpad …], Should be in the next dailies.17:04
lubot<tsimonq2> It migrated and should be installable as of 20 hours ago.17:04
wxl20 hours ago.. might already be there in today's?17:04
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah.17:04
wxlk cool. just didn't know if that FFe is automatic or if we need to bug people17:05
lubot<tsimonq2> An FFe is a human-made and human-enforced freeze. :P17:05
wxlah ic17:05
wxloh jeez what did i do wrong17:18
wxli tried to land D16 and smoething went weird17:19
wxli think17:19
wxl@tsimonq2: ?17:19
lubot<tsimonq2> Oof, rookie mistake :)17:20
wxli blame my instructor17:20
lubot<tsimonq2> Go to master and revert that commit you just made. Later I'll rewind both and force push.17:20
lubot<tsimonq2> When you do arc land, you have to do `arc land BRANCH` otherwise it automatically lands to master.17:21
wxlaw jeez that's dumb17:21
lubot<tsimonq2> So you just landed all of that to master.17:21
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah ik :/17:21
wxltjat17:21
lubot<tsimonq2> So revert it, and retry it.17:21
wxloops17:21
wxlthat's particularly ungitlike17:21
lubot<tsimonq2> But you'll likely have to git merge the branch created by arc patch onto ubuntu/cosmic.17:22
lubot<tsimonq2> This part is weird and buggy, I know. :/17:22
wxlok i think i did the revert right17:23
wxl`git diff HEAD HEAD^^` returns null so that's a good sign17:25
wxlweird that i can do the arc patch but land fails17:27
lubot<tsimonq2> Huh17:27
lubot<tsimonq2> I dunno, dude.17:27
wxlnope can't do it17:29
wxli give up17:29
wxlyou fix it XD17:29
lubot<tsimonq2> Lazy XD17:29
lubot<tsimonq2> Let me sleep a little bit to let you wallow in shame17:29
wxlno effect17:29
wxlyou'll just be making wendy sad17:30
wxloh. i think i know why. it updated the whole differential https://phab.lubuntu.me/D1617:31
wxland even picking at just the diff (62) of the whole differential (D16) is still not enough.17:36
lubot<TheWendyPower> Yay! You are making more progress than I was in actually getting it to land.17:50
wxlthere i think i did it18:18
wxlproblem was, again, the instructor18:18
wxlarc land --onto ubuntu/cosmic18:18
wxlok let's try this again18:20
wxlah well i was going to land D21 but it wants launchpad credentials which then doesn't seem to accept18:24
wxlmaybe if i change the remote to git+ssh instead of http18:28
wxlthat seems to work but cosmic doesn't exist in remote origin bah18:43
wxlwell i give up on that. @tsimonq2 got any clues?18:52
lubot<tsimonq2> git merge arcpatch-D12 or whatever and push.18:52
lubot<tsimonq2> Using arc patch makes its own Git branch locally.18:53
wxlor whatever?18:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Whatever the branch name is.18:53
wxllet's make sure we get this right18:53
wxlso you wnat me to arc patch18:53
wxland then what? git checkout cosmic?18:54
wxland then git merge arcpatch-Dwhatever?18:55
wxlwhy doesn't this just work with arc land?18:55
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah18:56
lubot<tsimonq2> Because arc land is stupid, that's why :)18:56
wxlthat seems like a less likely explanation18:56
lubot<tsimonq2> Bet18:56
wxlso you have no clue. got it18:57
lubot<tsimonq2> I get it to work locally that way.18:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Right, I don't.18:57
wxl:)18:57
lubot<tsimonq2> You think I'm just being a bad instructor? I had to clumsily step through this myself. XD18:57
wxlhm18:58
wxli wonder if it's not the changing of the origin that messes with things18:59
lubot<acheronuk> using stupid arc puts me off upstreaming patches to KDE18:59
wxlwell often times it's so much easier it's ridiculous18:59
wxlbut these edge cases good god18:59
lubot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk [using stupid arc puts me off upstreaming patches to KDE], Oh so KDE has the same problems?19:00
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl: Maybe poke around there?19:00
lubot<acheronuk> dunno. but the docs are **it19:00
wxlhah now THAT is true19:01
wxlhttps://discourse.phabricator-community.org/t/documentation-for-bin-commands/192819:01
wxlapparently the developers are allergic to making it better, too19:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Hahahahahaha19:02
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wxli tried explicitly setting the branch tracking to no avail19:13
wxloh well that's done19:15
wxlanother one for Hans19:15
wxlmaybe if we actually had that on phab as opposed to launchpad that might make a difference19:17
lubot<tsimonq2> Let's move it then.19:17
lubot<tsimonq2> I can in a bit.19:17

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