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sgenCan anyone recommend a console markdown viewer that transforms links into something more like a hyperlink instead of just a regular markdown link00:05
LysergZHey, I need some help! I hadn't used Ubuntu in a while (Ubuntu 18, forget when I last updated it) so the updater had some things to update. After letting it restart it seems to have gotten stuck and it's been like going like this for a while: https://i.imgur.com/7RS3yoI.jpg  I've seen some solutions, but I specially want to know exactly the best way to stop it right now in case doing something like a hard shutdown could be a terrib00:24
elhamI have a problem here. Ubuntu uses my broadband data in the background. I saw this on the System Monitor. What should I do?00:28
ryuoelham: and what's the issue? metered bandwidth?00:29
elhamyep.00:29
elhamI tried to check on the settings but I can't find it...00:30
ryuoelham: all versions of Ubuntu will use some to check for updates... it's a few hundred kilobytes at least to do this.00:30
illuminaughtyyanyone else having issues controlling volume through laptop hotkeys in 18.04?00:30
ryuoelham: there's multiple things it will do automatically.00:30
illuminaughtyybrightmess00:30
illuminaughtyybrightness, not volume00:30
ryuoilluminaughtyy: does anything control it?00:31
illuminaughtyynothing i've tried yet00:31
ryuoelham: do you know anything more specific about what it's doing?00:31
illuminaughtyythere's no x11/xconf00:31
ryuoilluminaughtyy: Intel or AMD?00:31
illuminaughtyyi can't find xserver in nividia00:31
illuminaughtyyintel00:31
ryuo... So it's dual GPU?00:31
illuminaughtyyquad i think00:32
ryuoI just mean, two GPUs.00:32
ryuothe Intel and Nvidia?00:32
illuminaughtyyit's a laptop00:32
illuminaughtyynot sure00:32
illuminaughtyyto be honest00:32
ryuoWell, most don't carry a dedicated GPU, but some do.00:32
illuminaughtyyi assume one, but it might be one of those gpu's that is kind of a vgu in itself00:32
illuminaughtyyassume not, not one00:32
ryuodiscrete or w/e.00:32
illuminaughtyyit's a gaming laptop00:32
ryuoOH, then it does.00:33
illuminaughtyyso it has a dedicated gpu00:33
illuminaughtyy965M00:33
illuminaughtyyIt's an Asus G75300:33
illuminaughtyyg75200:33
illuminaughtyygot almost all the other bugs out except for this00:33
ryuoilluminaughtyy: well, one thing to try is BIOS updates if available. those are a good idea whenever you have issues.00:34
elhamUmm.... no. It's okay.. At least it is better to know why it uses my bandwith... Thanks :D00:34
ryuoilluminaughtyy: if not, you can poke around in /sys/class/backlight to see if the kernel00:34
illuminaughtyypretty sure I'm on the latest, I can check though00:34
ryuoilluminaughtyy: supports any backlight controls.00:34
ryuoilluminaughtyy: you can get the BIOS version from dmidecode.00:34
illuminaughtyyI see two folders00:35
illuminaughtyyacpi 0 and 100:35
ryuostrange.00:35
ryuoyou can play around with it to see if you can change brightness through it.00:35
illuminaughtyyi added a command to grub that involved acpi 0 trying to fix it00:35
illuminaughtyymaybe it's something to do with that and needs set to 1 instead00:35
ryuoilluminaughtyy: good luck... you can test the backlight controls by writing to a special brightness file.00:36
illuminaughtyyi'd have no idea how00:37
illuminaughtyyi found this one program00:37
ryuoas root, writing to a file like /sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl0/brightness00:37
ryuoit's not hard.00:37
illuminaughtyyhttps://haikarainen.github.io/light/00:37
ryuolike echo 255 > /sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl0/brightness00:37
illuminaughtyyit's not an amd gpu00:37
ryuoI know, but the same method is applicable.00:37
ryuoelham: you can probably configure it. if you really need to control bandwidth used for updates and you have multiple Ubuntu installs, you can always setup a LAN mirror.00:38
illuminaughtyythere's acpi_video1 and acpi_video000:39
illuminaughtyyno actual gpu specific00:39
ryuoilluminaughtyy: ah. that's normal.00:39
ryuoi'd play around with their brightness values to see if you can get something to happen.00:39
ryuoto start with.00:39
ryuofirst, check the max brightness.00:40
ryuocat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness00:40
ryuothen write a new value to the brightness file.00:40
ryuoecho ... > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness00:40
ryuoilluminaughtyy: i had an issue a few months ago where brightness only worked through /sys but a BIOS update fixed the keys.00:41
illuminaughtyyI will check into that00:42
ryuoilluminaughtyy: if playing around with either of them produces a change in the backlight, then you know the kernel can control it.00:42
ryuothen you just need to figure out what's up with the brightness keys.00:42
SirNapkin1334so, I'm following the tutorial https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-windows-ubuntu-hyperv-containers and i'm on step six, when I start docker from admin CMD it just stays at DEBU[2018-09-28T16:50:42.539288400-07:00] Config reload - waiting signal at Global\docker-daemon-config-9228 and doesn't output anything else - does that mean it's running properly? I don't see the docker icon in the toolbar. is it safe to00:46
SirNapkin1334close the CMD window?00:46
illuminaughtyySo current version is 304.....00:49
SirNapkin1334also when running .\docker.exe pull ubuntu it says no matching manifest for unknown in the manifest list entries00:52
outoftimeIs it hard to get ubuntu 18.04 use unity?00:53
ducasseoutoftime: shouldn't be, it's still in the repos00:54
Ourminehello guys i need help plz01:00
bane500Does anyone know if you can use a '$' in fstab when specifying a network share? i.e. //servername/share/test$01:00
Bashing-om!ask | Ourmine01:00
ubottuOurmine: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:00
SirNapkin1334I guess i'll repeat my question01:02
SirNapkin1334so, I'm following the tutorial https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-windows-ubuntu-hyperv-containers and i'm on step six, when I start docker from admin CMD it just stays at DEBU[2018-09-28T16:50:42.539288400-07:00] Config reload - waiting signal at Global\docker-daemon-config-9228 and doesn't output anything else - does that mean it's running properly? I don't see the docker icon in the toolbar. is it safe to01:03
SirNapkin1334close the CMD window?01:03
SirNapkin1334 also when running .\docker.exe pull ubuntu it says no matching manifest for unknown in the manifest list entries01:03
Ourminei have pc portable with 2 graphique card (Intel HD Graphics / Amd Radeon HD 8500M) i just installed steam on ubuntu and i try to play csgo bu i have low fps so i think that Amd Graphic is no running01:04
elhamDid you tried to check on Software and Updates if you are using a restricted driver or the xorg driver?01:06
Ourminei do anything i just install ubuntu , update , install steam and csgo and start to play -_-01:07
elhamYou can try using other desktop environment... Like XFCE or LXDE, Ourmine. I heard that GNOME desktop is heavy resourced.01:10
Bashing-omOurmine: I do not know much about hybrid graphics with AMD, but is a driver loaded ? pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' . see what we can finger out .01:11
qwebirc97047Hey all, I'm having an issue with installing ubuntu server, I've gotten to the point where I need to enable nomodeset to get past the graphics not working, but now I've run into Unable to find a medium containing a live file system.01:19
qwebirc97047Tried to identify myself dosen't seem to have worked I'll rejoin01:19
elhamOurmine, what if you try to check the settings on CSGO. Try to lower the resolution or change the texture quality.01:19
CukenHopefully this worked! :)01:20
CukenHey all, I'm having an issue with installing ubuntu server, I've gotten to the point where I need to enable nomodeset to get past the graphics not working, but now I've run into Unable to find a medium containing a live file system.01:21
elhamCuken, eject all external drives ( if available ) and try to restart01:22
CukenWhen I switch my SATA Mode from IDE Mode to AHCI mode, I get a seperate boot error01:22
CukenACPI Error [DSSP] Namespace lookup failure01:22
Cukenelham: I only have the one usb boot stick in the device currently, there is no OS Loaded on the drives yet.01:23
elhamCuken, try using other USB ports...01:23
Cukenshould I stay with ACPI or switch back to IDE01:24
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Cukenelham: I had it running on a usb 2 slot, switched it to 3 to try and now I'm getting a nouveau bus MMIO read at 00000000 FAULT error01:30
Cukenwhich eventually falls out to initramfs unable to find a medium containing a live file system.01:31
elhamheck... Cuken, try to switch back to IDE mode and try again.. If failed, try to use a bootable CD instead of usb stick.01:31
CukenJust did, I'm gonna try remaking the boot disk in DD mode, I saw something on reddit mentioning this01:31
CukenI'll post back01:31
Vic2Trying to do an upgrade to 18.04 ... server.  First we are upgrading to 16.04 and it seems not to be working ...01:37
Vic2I've been keeping an eye on running processes with webmin... the upgrade process is still running... but... it doesn't look like it's making any progress...01:37
Vic2the terminal is connected but still sitting there on "preconfiguring packages" for way, way, WAY too long...01:37
Vic2... it seems to have gotten stuck on the keyboard configuration task.01:38
Vic2in fact, it looks like it's executing a grep command, as if scanning a directory or file for different keyboard type configurations.01:38
elhamVic2 relax... be patient. It will finish upgrading soon.... I hope...01:39
Vic2Heh like how long? other machine was 15-20 mins ... so far this one is almost an hour? that normal?01:40
Vic2Ok elham ... seems to be stuck here...       21550 root 01:03 grep -i AT Set \|AT Translated Set\|AT Raw Set\|Atari Keyboard\|Amiga Keyboard\| ...01:41
elhamOkay.... maybe your machine is ABnormal? :P01:41
Vic2entirely possible, lol --01:42
elhamWELL, after upgrading. Maybe you should use other keyboard next time? I mean amiga keyboard sounds.... old? lol01:44
Vic2Uhmm, no keyboard ... this is a server install - headless.01:49
Vic2not sure why it is even doing anything with a keyboard tbh elham.01:50
elhamGod... I think it's confused.01:53
Vic2so elham, how best to unconfuse it? :p01:54
elhamwell plug in an amiga keyboard?01:55
Vic2hahaha, sure show up at a 9-5 data center at 4 in the morning ... not gonna work. :(01:56
R13oseHi01:58
Vic2so elham ... what is the recommended method to abort this process?02:00
elhamGod not sure anymore, Vic2.02:01
Vic2Is there some signal we can send via command line?02:02
elhamCTRL + C ?02:02
elhamWait... shoot no keyboard right?02:02
elhamIf you want to take risk. I suggest you shut down the computer02:02
Vic2no keyboard, in theory.02:05
elhamHave some coffee, and get some rest for a while, Vic2. I'm sure you're tired.02:05
elhamreboot the computer?02:05
R13oseHow do I make sure a second usb drive is mounted in initramfs cli busybox?  I then want to mount the hard drive and move over the home directory to the usb key.02:07
Vic2elham: what sig should we try to send ...02:10
Vic221550 pts/2    S+     0:00 grep -i AT Set \|AT Translated Set\|AT Raw Set\|Ata02:10
elhamVic2: Can we really reboot?02:11
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Vic2elham - long history but would rather that be our last option.  last time we rebooted it took 2 days for tech support to reboot the thing. :(02:16
Vic2(cause they were out of office)02:16
elhamOh god... can you contact the tech support now?02:17
Vic2did sig int  (Ctrl-c) and It just restarted from where it left off... the whole tree02:21
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ghostboarderhey guys i am having an issue with my MSP remote access viewer app, running ubuntu 18.04. They say to download the tar, uncompress, and then run the *.sh not as root. But if i attempt this, i get a Permission Denied error. If i run as root, i get a long list of dependencies that cant be downloaded as they are from untrusted repos. I can pastebin if anyone can help03:00
feohHas anyone tried upgrading from 18.04 to 18.10 via update-manager yet?03:03
feohI'm wondering if it'll fix some lingering power management issues with my Alienware 17 R503:03
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feohAnd when I run update manager and tell it to notify me of any new release it just says I'm up to date03:03
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Bashing-omfeoh: 18.10 has not been released to this time . Join #ubuntu+1 for instruction to get onto 18.10 .03:09
feohThanks very much and sorry about the poor channel choice!03:10
Bashing-omfeoh: We are gere to help .. a re-direct is easy enough to do :)03:11
Bashing-omhere*03:11
ghostboarderanyone guys?03:14
RoscoePColtraneghostboarder: name and version of this "msp remote access viewer app"?03:18
ghostboarderSolarwinds MSP "Take Control Viewer" v.6.80.17.2403:19
ghostboarderIm switching to ubuntu as my daily driver and apparently they fully support03:21
RoscoePColtraneghostboarder: https://support.solarwindsmsp.com/kb/solarwinds_rmm/Take-Control-MSP-Anywhere-System-Requirements03:23
RoscoePColtraneghostboarder: i don't think so buddy03:23
feohSorry SolarWinds is a Windows product through and through :(03:23
ghostboarderhttps://support.solarwindsmsp.com/kb/solarwinds_rmm/How-can-I-install-the-Take-Control-MSP-Anywhere-viewer-on-Ubuntu?q=linux%20take%20control%20viewer03:24
ghostboarderno need to ve rude RoscoePColtrane03:25
elhamHey vic2. Is the problem sloved yet?03:26
RoscoePColtraneghostboarder: not to be rude, but was supported on a non LTS ubuntu version that is no longer supported (17.10), you can try to find a 17.10 iso and run an unsupported ubuntu version for the sake of having this software, however you may hear echoes of "it's no longer supported" when or if you reach out for help03:28
ghostboarderyeah i saw that....shame on me i suppose for assuming they would CONTINUE support. How much sense does THAT make, eh?03:29
ghostboarderThey have had a great product (at least for Windows) for years, wonder why they would only support non LTS 17.10 and then stop?03:30
RoscoePColtraneghostboarder: the article was published August 27th 2018, so it seems they really had no long term linux support intentions03:31
RoscoePColtraneghostboarder: looks more like a after thought than full support03:32
ghostboarderyeesh....that is literally the ONLY product i needed to worry about compatibility with. Otherwise my shift to nix was complete03:34
ghostboarderwell that is pretty depressing03:35
ghostboarderthx for your input RoscoePColtrane03:35
RoscoePColtraneno prob03:36
SeaDotOtterHi folks, testing one, two ...03:38
Vic2elham ---- nah going to bed!!! gonna keep running 14.04 until i can get someone at the data center to reinstall from scratch. :p03:39
ghostboarderhey RoscoePColtrane: what significant risks would running 17.10 really present anyway?03:40
ghostboarderthat might be a long answer, but in a nutshell :)03:40
ghostboarderthis is coming from a linux user but not exactly a high functioning nix admin haha03:42
RoscoePColtraneghostboarder: no updates or patches and what not03:48
ghostboarderhmmm03:51
elhamVic2: Have a good night sleep! I'm sure you'll solve your problem. :D03:54
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ghostboardernight guys and thanks04:03
Niytrohowdy04:16
Vic2elham eventually. :)04:18
* Niytro like ubu04:29
ace_meHi all I am wondering how to send a vlc stream directly to a CD burn like https://www.systutorials.com/docs/linux/man/1-cdrskin/ in order to write directly an audio CD04:38
ace_meIs it possible ?04:38
bane500anybody here use autofs04:44
ace_meI am thinking on something like sudo cdrskin -v dev=/dev/sr0 speed=48 -sao -swab http://ubuntu.hbr1.com:19800/ambient.ogg04:47
ace_meit said no such file or directory04:47
ilias_grhi all. Could you please advise me if minimal xubuntu offers during installation luks disk security option?04:54
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ilias_grAs i read here https://www.circuidipity.com/minimal-ubuntu/ there is this option available05:03
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MannyLNJI need help please. I had Ubuntu installed on /dev/sdb5 somehow I screwed things up trying to re-install Ubuntu onyto /dev/sda1 so I could convert /sdb to a media drive I now have Ubuntu on /sda and there is still a GRUB entry for the install on /sdb5 but I can't log in as my user. I need to because I encrypted the home directory and I need to copy some files off. Would someone please help me fix the install on /sdb5? It boots as far06:44
MannyLNJas emergency mode but that's all06:44
monkwitdafunkhi. i want to dual boot ubuntu server and ubuntu desktop. what should i do after i sanitize my hard disk? i was considering of using knoppix to run gparted07:07
monkwitdafunk2 primary partitions?07:08
Agbayamonkwitdafunk: I'm a Linux scrub but it shouldn't matter if the partitions are primary or not07:12
monkwitdafunkhow many ubuntu installations can i have on 1 hard disk?07:18
monkwitdafunk4?07:18
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arTeemonkwitdafunk, 128 with GPT? :-)07:31
wjdennywould anyone like to take a stab at helping me troubleshoot some network/dns issues? I'm in China, trying to set up the ancient desktop ethernet-only computer with lubuntu, but having trouble. First, China-internet was working, but to try to get ExpressVPN going I changed some DNS settings and now lost access. My phone and laptop are both using the WIFI from the same router and they work just fine. This desktop has China-internet access before I07:32
wjdennyinstalled Lubuntu on it. I'm in way over my head.07:32
mobile_c_how do i know if my audio is muted or not07:41
pikiaGo on youtube and play a video?07:46
brondifmobile_c:in terminal pavucontrol or alsamixer07:53
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mobile_c_HDMI / DisplayPort (unplugged)08:01
mobile_c_Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (unplugged) (unavailable)08:02
brondifmobile_c_: maybe a kernel module not loading??08:05
mobile_c_bluetooth audio works but my headphones r charging08:05
mobile_c_Sysinfo for 'Mobile-C': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.12.6 on Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS (Bionic Beaver) powered by Linux 4.15.0-33-generic, CPU: AMD A6-9220 RADEON R4, 5 COMPUTE CORES 2C+3G at 1728-1730/2500 MHz, RAM: 6787/7487 MB, Storage: 187/904 GB, 215 procs, 104.46h up08:09
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brondifmobile_c_:with lsmod the modules that are compiled, to load it modprobe but i can not help you more.08:17
brondifi am not a expert.08:17
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ilias_grhi all. could you please advise me if there is any chance for xubuntu 16.04.5 LTS to be supported from the community beyond 3 years limit (Apr 2019) ?08:30
mobile_c_https://paste.pound-python.org/show/mCcJUl9USfQShYhYuOtp/08:33
brondifmobile_c_: the driver has to be ,for your sound card.08:44
brondifwhich is?08:44
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Talsinhow can i list the files in a package ?09:06
Talsinlike 'apt listfiles packagename' or something...09:07
Ben64apt-file list <packagename>09:08
Ben64from google09:08
mobile_c_Ben64: idk09:16
mobile_c_wtf so many names ;-;09:16
mobile_c_brondif: idk09:16
EriC^^Talsin: if it's already installed, dpkg -L <package>09:17
Talsinthanks EriC^^09:20
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cim209hello i just installed xubuntu, how do i disable numlock? it keeps turning on every time i lock the screen10:19
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coconutAre there a lot of games available for ubuntu?11:35
ca-on-adamHi there, question about the "at" queue11:43
yeatsca-on-adam: just ask - people will answer as they can11:44
ca-on-adamThe man page says that queues 'a' to 'z' are handled by at rules, and 'A' to 'Z' are handled by batch rules (cpu load-dependant) but I am confused as to whether queue 'b' is handled by at or batch since the man page *also* says that the default for batch is 'b'...11:45
jasvia steam, sure @ coconut11:45
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ca-on-adamyeats: I know the ask-to-ask rule, but I threw it out in case somebody would reply saying that it belongs in another channel.11:46
coconutoh, a steam app now.11:48
motte_hey, can someone help me recover an encrypted /home folder? after logging in, i cant access my files and i get "signature not found in keyring, try ecryptfs-mount-private"11:49
yeatsca-on-adam: I consider that on-topic, but I don't have a good answer - I've not gotten into complex use cases with "at"11:49
ca-on-adamyeats: well it looks like capital letters were a later addition, since it would make the most sense for batch to use 'A' by default, not 'b'.11:54
R13osejcdutton: hi11:55
ca-on-adamPerhaps the only way to really know will be to look at the source.11:55
BluesKajHiyas all11:57
R13oseHi BluesKaj11:57
BluesKajHi R13ose11:57
R13oseWhat's up?11:59
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BluesKajmorning coffee atm12:08
coconutjas: Are most games stable at the moment? (i played quake once a while on a nvidia 6600GT somewhere year 2005/2006, but this was not stable at that time...)12:09
BluesKajcoconut:  steam games are afaik12:10
coconutSome times a black screen.12:10
coconutok12:10
BluesKajsome games still aren't written for the linux platform12:11
coconuta shame, but perhaps a good reason to install steam.12:12
BluesKajyup12:12
coconutBluesKaj: do you have a fast video card? (i am considering a new tuxedo laptop with big video card)12:13
BluesKajcoconut:  well I had a bvidia gt520, but since my new MSI Z370 board was installed I've been using the intel onboard graphics, but I'm not really an action gamer12:16
BluesKajnvidia12:16
jascan install and run windows games now straight from steam12:16
jasproton is the new toy12:16
jasvery impressive12:16
BluesKajproton?12:17
jasonly a handful of games on the 'official whitelist', but lots work just fine regardless12:17
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Greyztar~~~~~~~~~12:28
BluesKajGreyztar:  we see you12:28
Greyztarsry trying out new terminal irc client seems buggy keys,return didnt work,tested enter and all is working again,thanks though12:29
R13oseI wish my issue would go away12:29
BluesKajGreyztar: no problem12:33
BluesKajR13ose:  still with the rw troubles?12:33
Anthaas_I have a machine with 4 HDDS, I wanted to RAID the OS across them - is there a way to do this that is supported in the installer?12:36
R13oseWill, my computer crashes like it always does because too many tabs open in Opera browser.  Now, I can't get into the gui and goes into busybox.  When I ran memtest86, I had 3 errors.  Now I want to try and copy the home directory and passwords to a usb key if possible.  Yet, I can't figure out how to mount both.12:36
Anthaas_Ubuntu desktop 18.0412:36
mousesR13ose: memtest86 showing errors - bad RAM.  You're likely not going to be able to do anything functional on a system with a stick of bad ram placed in it12:39
R13oseNot even mount?12:40
mousesR13ose: Might be better to plug that systems drive into a working system and recover from there, or (assuming multiple sticks of RAM) isolate the bad stick and remove12:40
mousesR13ose: Nothing - any anything you copy over is likely going to become corrupted12:40
mousesyou can't really use a computer with faulty RAM12:40
R13oseReally?  Why would this be corrupted?12:40
mousesR13ose: The data is fine, but if you are trying to use a system with bad RAM to copy the data over to something, you're going to end up with a corrupted copy12:41
R13oseWhy?12:41
mousesR13ose: Because system RAM is used as a buffer during the copy12:41
mousesR13ose: Bad ram = corrupt buffer = corrupt data12:41
mousesR13ose: Is this a laptop or a desktop?12:42
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R13oseLaptop12:42
mousesGah, that complicates things.12:42
mousesIs the RAM accessable?12:42
mouseslike, can you open it up and physically get to it?12:42
mousesIf you are super lucky the system has more than one stick, and chances are very good that only one is dead12:43
mousesSo you pull run, run a mem test, if you still get errors, pull the other, replace with the first, test12:43
R13oseYes but only one stick.  I don't want to open this as there are other problems too.12:43
mousesugh12:43
R13oseOne stick is accessible and the other one is not12:43
mousesoh that's weird12:43
mouseswell pull the accessible one12:43
mousesmaybe you'll get lucky12:44
mousespull it, memtest12:44
R13oseAs I said, my laptop has additional issues that makes me not want to open laptop12:44
mousesNot much you can do then.  You can try to maybe boot from a USB image, mount the drive, and then recover the data but with bad RAM inserted the chances of that working are pretty damn slim12:45
mousesand even if it does work you'll end up with corrupted data.12:45
R13oseCorrupted data boo12:46
mousesR13ose: If it was me in this situation, i'd just take it apart.  You're going to have to if you ever want to fix it.  At worst you break it, pull the HDD/SDD, and recover it later from another system or get an adapter to hook the drive into something else12:47
mouses(just my opinion, your experience may vary)12:47
R13oseI don't have another machine to use that is the issue.12:47
mousesyeah :(12:47
mousesRough, not really sure what you tell you.12:47
mouseswhat to tell you*12:47
R13oseI will turn this off and pull the memory off12:48
mousesmaybe you'll get lucky12:48
mousesdon't forget to memtest12:48
motte_hey, can someone help me recover an encrypted /home folder? after logging in, i cant access my files and i get "signature not found in keyring, try ecryptfs-mount-private"12:48
R13oseHow many tests should I do? last time, I did 10 tests and I had to esc that12:49
ryusakuwhat about googling the laptops make and model number; R13ose? If you have one accessible memory stick, good chances are that the other one also is. Perhaps hiding behind the keyboard (?)12:49
mousesryusaku: yeah, that's what I was thinking too12:50
R13oseI have and others did here too.  I will open laptop12:50
R13oseI have to open laptop12:50
mousesryusaku: did you back up the encrypted passphrase?12:51
mousesOr the mount passphrase?12:51
mousesIf no to both; you can't.12:51
mousesryusaku: https://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/12:52
ryusakumouses : probably some other user who asked that question12:52
ryusaku:)12:52
mousesoh shoot12:52
mousessorry12:53
mousesmotte_: ^^ that was meant for you12:53
motte_mouses: i tried that, i get "the key to required to access this private data is not available"12:53
mousesmotte_: Right, you'd need to have backed it up12:53
mousesif you didn't, the data cannot be recovered12:53
motte_mouses: i actually do, i have a full disk backup from a few months ago12:53
mousesmotte_: Oh sweet!  Recover the passphrases and you should be golden then12:54
motte_mouses: im recovering the backup right now, how would i recover the passphrases?12:54
mousesmotte_: Hmmmm, this should be what you need to do.12:55
mousesmotte_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Long_way12:55
mousesmotte_: it'll be a bit of a pain but should be doable12:55
motte_right, got it12:56
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R13oseI removed the one strip of memory.  Now I am doing memtest86 but how many tests should I do?13:22
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flipsHi! I'm going to test default new gnome desktop (installed ubuntu-desktop). But have to run lightdm, not gdm3. Just wondering if unity-greeter is the default, or should I switch to another greeter package?13:24
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mousesR13ose: A few passes should be fine13:34
mousesR13ose: If you're not showing any errors, you should be good to mount the drive and recover what you need to13:34
R13oseCan I run the system normally if no errors?13:35
mousesR13ose: No reason why not13:35
illuminaughtyyanyone run into difficulties controlling backlight brightness in ubuntu 18.04?13:35
flipsTried Ubuntu on Wayland, that crashed ... which log file should I check?13:35
be-pwhy dmesg shows module's printk while /var/log/dmesg doesn't13:36
R13oseThanks.  I will just continue to check because I want to be safe.13:36
brwANyone here seen some weird disk corruption (and consequently read-only file systems) after upgrading to 18.04? I'm running vSphere 6.7 vms, all recent kit, Synology 916+ with recent kit as well.13:38
be-pprobably your hd has died, how old is it? is it an ssd?13:40
brwNo, it's a Synology13:40
brwNAS13:40
brwthere are debian VMs that are running fine without a hitch13:40
brwonly the ubuntu 18.04 ones. didn't do it under 16.0413:40
be-pi've upgraded from 17.04 to 18.04 and my filesystem has not encountered troubles fortunately..13:45
skinuxHaving an issue. I installed DVDFab 10 x64. I double-clicked the desktop launcher a few times, it's not launching. It is installed via WINE13:45
gpunktry it from a command line skinux13:45
be-pany hint on why dmesg shows kernel module's printk while /var/log/dmesg does not? i cannot tail dmesg's printks otherwise13:46
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skinuxAnyone know what this means? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/3cacd8b16a6644a4fe1409332e9c860313:49
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R13oseI booted normally and now again in busybox.  This time it is saying https://pastebin.com/de6YRPPn13:57
R13oseThe grub list did come up and when I hit enter on Ubuntu, booted into busybox.  The memtest86 didn't show any errors and I did lots of tests.13:59
coconutjas: does steam use a lot cpu for you? Because mine does...14:00
EriC^^R13ose: try booting a live usb and run fsck /dev/sda114:04
R13oseTrying14:05
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R13oseFrom the live usb list, I hit enter on run Ubuntu. Now I am back in busybox and fsck is not found.14:09
brwIs tehre a way to keep Ubuntu pinned at 16.04 so it wont upgrade to 18.04?14:16
brwI'm going to reinstall this VM and try to keep it at 16.04 and see if tehre is some weird issue between 16/18 that is corrupting things14:16
CookieMin the settings of update manager, you can disable upgrading (either LTS-es or short support or both)14:19
RoscoePColtranebrw: did the system administrator NOT initiate this 16 > 18 upgrade you speak of?14:20
brwroot did it14:21
brw(me)14:21
RoscoePColtranebrw: i wouldn't think the computer/system would make such a decision on it's own without the administrator having been involved at some level14:21
brwthere was an apt process that ran that forced a 18.04 update isntead of keeping me at 16.0414:21
brwoh you know what14:21
brwI ran the do-release-upgrade14:21
brwnow I remember. So as long as I don't do that, I'm on 16.0414:22
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RoscoePColtranebrw: then install 16.x and don't do that anymore14:22
brwyeah I got it now14:22
brwforgot about that little command14:22
R13oseI get this error running the live usb: "(initramfs) mount mounting dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed: Input/output error" Yet, this live usb has worked before.14:28
EoflaOEHave you verified the download? Did the hash sum match? How did you make a live USB?14:31
R13oseI can't remember the tool I used but I used this live usb before in the same computer.14:32
EoflaOEAre you sure you verified the download if it was corrupt or not?14:32
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R13oseYes!14:35
EoflaOEAre you trying to do a dual-boot between Windows and Ubuntu?14:37
R13oseNope.  I only have Ubuntu14:37
RoscoePColtraneR13ose: boot it again using a different usb port if available14:37
R13oseI will try that.14:38
RoscoePColtraneR13ose: try booting it on a different computer, if it doesn't boot on a second computer, make yourself another LiveUSB14:38
R13oseSomething is most definitely wrong with the live usb as I wasn't able to boot on another machine.  I only have windows 10 on the other machines, what should I use to make a new LiveUSB?14:47
RoscoePColtraneR13ose: same process as when you created the liveusb you have now14:48
EoflaOEI recommend Rufus as it creates a FAT32 and you can use your flash drive on Windows while you can boot to it.14:48
RoscoePColtraneR13ose: obtain an ISO, use a software utility to create bootable usb14:49
cyanidemounting an ext4 volume using fstab. is there any option that changes the default permissions on all files/directories like the umask option on ntfs/vfat?14:51
R13oseEoflaOE: I want to boot this on a Ubuntu only machine.14:51
EoflaOEI now get it. Use decent USB maker that's available on Ubuntu.14:52
R13oseEoflaOE: link?14:52
EoflaOEI will give a link. One moment...14:52
Mr_Pan!chiedi14:56
coconutR13ose: you can just use the cp command from terminal (unmounted and with fdisk -l to check the right /dev/*location*) So no really in need for an app for this, although when you ram is not ok you probably want to do this on the other pc.14:57
EoflaOEYou can try Unetbootin. Do 'sudo apt-get install unetbootin' and ('gksu unetbootin' or 'gksudo unetbootin')14:57
coconutR13ose: though this can go wrong if you give a wrong /dev/*location*, so be careful!14:59
R13osecoconut: oh I know14:59
R13oseEoflaOE: confused.  I am on another machine that has Windows 10.  The machine that is broken boots only Ubuntu.  Should I be using Rufus or Unetbootin to create the live usb on the Windows 10 machine?15:01
EoflaOEI prefer Rufus on the Windows 10 machine. Make sure you have a valid Ubuntu ISO there.15:01
R13oseEoflaOE: how do I know if I do?15:02
coconutR13ose: check the sha256 sum.15:02
EoflaOEGo to the location that you have downloaded the ISO on. (common path: Downloads)15:03
R13oseEoflaOE: done15:04
EoflaOEFound anything?15:04
R13oseYes15:05
jjecan anyone help me understand why nodejs and nodejs-dev are being held back by apt on the update i just did?15:05
EoflaOER13ose: Go to Rufus, click on the CD-ROM icon, then select the Ubuntu ISO file that is downloaded, then plug in your USB, press START, and follow the instructions. Be sure not to turn off the PC or disconnect while it's doing its job15:07
EoflaOEjje: Did you do15:07
EoflaOEsudo apt-get dist-update?15:07
jjeyes15:07
EoflaOEand it showed that they have left out?15:08
jjeyes15:08
EoflaOEAre these packages locked by you?15:09
jjeno they are not15:09
EoflaOEcan you try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade again? if they're still left out, let me know.15:10
R13oseEoflaOE: trying now15:11
jjeEoflaOE: ok that got it. thanks15:12
EoflaOEyou are welcome. Enjoy your updated nodejs15:12
jjethanks15:12
EoflaOEyou're welcome15:13
qwebirc95665hello, i'm looking for a paint like application15:16
vlouvetqwebirc95665, take a look at mypaint15:17
vlouvetqwebirc95665, depending on the number of features you are looking for you might also look into Krita, Inkscape, or Gimp15:18
R13oseEoflaOE: I am using this LiveUSB now but all I see is the text marker that is flashing and nothing else.15:20
qwebirc95665mypaint was exactly was i was looking for, thank you15:20
EoflaOEDid you set the first boot device to USB? and what type of the PC is it (BIOS/UEFI)?15:21
qwebirc95665powerstaticstic shows a error: https://ibb.co/cXmoeK how can i fix this?15:21
R13oseEoflaOE: yes.  This is bios afaik15:23
R13oseI just go into the boot options and select usb15:23
EoflaOECan you try switching slots each time you reboot?15:24
vlouvetqwebirc95665, I would google the error message... https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239045715:25
R13oseEoflaOE: can you rephrase that?15:25
EoflaOECan you put the USB into different USB ports each time you try to reboot?15:26
R13oseI will try now15:26
EriC^^R13ose: try using nomodeset15:26
EriC^^R13ose: and make sure the usb is actually booting15:26
EriC^^R13ose: do you get grub initially or no?15:26
R13oseEoflaOE: no luck, there are only two usb ports.15:27
R13oseEriC^^: last time I tried to boot normally, yes I get grub.15:28
EoflaOEWhich ISO did you select while making live USB?15:28
vlouvetR13ose, it sounds like the usb stick was not successfully created15:28
R13oseEriC^^: why use nomodeset?15:29
vlouvetR13ose, nomodeset would instruct the Linux kernel to not load video drivers, it is a more 'barebones' boot mode15:30
R13oseEoflaOE: I use ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd6415:31
R13oseThanks.  I will try that if nothing else works.15:32
R13oseHow do I fix the LiveUSB?15:35
EoflaOEIs the PC type that you selected when Rufus was making a live USB a BIOS?15:37
R13oseEoflaOE: Target system is BIOS or UEFI15:38
EoflaOEAre these ports USB 2.0? Did you see a message when booting to USB that has "SYSLINUX" then "Loading bootlogo..."?15:40
R13oseYes15:42
EoflaOEAfter the SYSLINUX message, did it go to the purple background with keyboard, equal sign, and a person in the bottom?15:42
R13oseEoflaOE: sorry I was answering the first question, not the second.  I get nothing when booting the new LiveUSB.15:44
harutUbuntu good, make cave great again15:44
EoflaOECan you retry making a LiveUSB, this time, using UNetbootin?15:45
R13oseTrying15:45
EoflaOELet me know when you finish.15:46
R13oseEoflaOE: this is finished and now going to try and boot the LiveUSB15:58
EoflaOEOK.15:58
R13oseEoflaOE: I got to the UNetbootin list.  Should I try and start Kubuntu?  There are two of them.16:00
EoflaOEWhich entries does the menu list have?16:00
R13oseEoflaOE: Default, Help, Start Ubuntu, Check disc for defects, Test memory, Boot from first hard disk, Start Ubuntu, OEM install (for manufacturers), Check disc for defects.16:03
EoflaOECan you go to "Default" entry? and tell me what happened whenever you went there.16:04
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R13oseEoflaOE: I am in now, trying Ubuntu instead of installing this.16:07
EoflaOEAre you able to access the Internet and hear sound on Ubuntu?16:08
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R13oseEoflaOE: yes to both.  Yet, I would like to do the fsck that I mentioned earlier.16:11
EoflaOEOK.16:11
R13oseEoflaOE: would you be able to help me do that properly without messing anything up?16:13
EoflaOEYes. But tell me which device do you want to check its file system (/dev/<device>)16:14
R13oseEoflaOE: the hdd but I am unsure if this is sda1 or another one or not mounted.16:17
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EoflaOEOn the terminal, you can list all hard drives and its partitions whether it's mounted or unmounted by using 'sudo fdisk -l'.16:20
R13oseEoflaOE: thanks. Seems the one I want is sdb116:22
EoflaOEIf it is mounted, unmount it by 'sudo umount /dev/sdb1' before running 'sudo fsck /dev/sdb1'.16:23
R13oseEoflaOE: how do I tell if mounted?16:24
EoflaOETry to use 'df' and if the /dev/sdb1 is not found, then it's not mounted. If it is found, it's mounted.16:24
R13oseEoflaOE: I should fix corrupted orphan....?16:26
EoflaOEYes. Fix every error found.16:27
R13oseEoflaOE: done.  Now should I reboot, and see if I can running the system normally?16:28
EoflaOEYes, you can.16:28
R13oseThanks to all, I am back in business.16:31
EoflaOEYou are welcome. Everything is fine?16:32
R13oseEoflaOE: one more issue that was here before was that when I first go into somewhere to type after booting, ++++ start to key without me doing anything.  The only way I have fixed this is using xmodmap -e "keycode 86 = " each time I boot into the system.  How do you fix this permanently?16:34
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EoflaOEI will look up. one moment...16:35
EoflaOEsorry, but I have to eat food. see you later.16:36
R13oseEoflaOE: no problem16:37
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Lavinhogood afternoon16:39
Lavinhohelp me please16:40
R13ose!ask16:40
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:40
Lavinholenovo ideapad 320s boot usb ubuntu 18.04 but after black screen16:40
Lavinhohow to solved16:40
Lavinho???16:40
EoflaOER13ose: I am back. Still looking...16:57
apawlUpgrading my desktop after 10ish years. Looking at a small NVMe drive to host OS. How is Ubuntu support for NVMe? Plug and play? Anything I should be aware of/careful about?16:58
rdgnvme is like usb in the sense that the /dev IDs could change, so when referencing partitions and teh like use UUID16:59
rdgotherwise it's pretty transparent16:59
rdgubuntu will do it by default when you install/format etc. you'll see it in the fstab since it's been standard for a bit.. but if you do any partitioning yourself don't try ot use /dev/nvme0n01p1 or anything because it could change on reboot17:00
apawlOk, perfect. Yeah I was hoping the installer would handle the partitioning of that for me. Sounds like it will. Thanks!17:02
R13oseEoflaOE: thanks17:04
EoflaOER13ose: You may need to open the terminal, 'cd ~', do 'nano .Xmodmap', and add "keycode 86 = ", then save and exit. Reboot your PC, and the problem should be fixed. If it is fixed, let me know.17:04
R13oseEoflaOE: this will not happen right away?17:07
EoflaOEIf you logged out and logged in, the changes will happen. If it didn't, tell me17:08
R13oseOkay, I will do they, let me do one email beforehand17:09
EoflaOEOK.17:09
raubSo I installed npm in my 16.04 vm, but when I try to do even "npm help help" I am getting an EISDIR error https://paste.centos.org/view/abe6a8d417:10
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R13oseEoflaOE: is .Xmodmap a new file?17:15
EoflaOEYes, it's created because Ubuntu 18.04 currently does not ship ~/.Xmodmap by default.17:16
raubNVM, solved by rmeoving .npmrc17:18
EoflaOEDid the new changes apply?17:20
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R13oseEoflaOE: yes and logged out and in.  Seems to be working but if I do reboot, I will let you know what happens.17:20
EoflaOEOK. Let me know.17:21
R13oseIf this come up unexpectedly, I will let you know too.17:22
EoflaOEOK thanks17:22
R13oseEoflaOE: i just rebooted and works.  I will let you know if this changes.17:24
EoflaOEOK.17:24
R13oseThe only other issue is I think my wifi is not working well.  I use wired in my bedroom but try don't move the machine for various other reasons.  How do I fix this?17:26
ratinajarhey17:26
ratinajari dont know the passwrod to my keyring, how do i change it or disable it?17:27
ratinajari can login to my account and it shows the login keyring unlocked, but it prompt to a password when i try to do docker login, and my user password isnt the same as the keyring17:27
EoflaOER13ose: I think I may have to go to sleep. I need to get ready for school tomorrow honestly. See you later.17:27
ratinajarand im stuck17:27
R13oseEoflaOE: no problem thanks again17:28
EoflaOEYou are welcome. Goodbye.17:28
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cim209hey guys how do i keep numlock disabled after logging back in?17:47
lunorianHello. I have a Macbook Pro Early 2015. I've tried Ubuntu in the past however it's just been frustrating due to drivers and other issues and I've ended up switching back to macOS just to deal with those things. I'd like to ask a few questions in hopes that I can make the switch again and stick with it.17:47
lunorianThe biggest issue is the Wi-Fi driver, I stopped using bluetooth headphones as mine broke :(, however the driver tends to use 2.4Ghz and 802.11G rather than 802.11AC like macOS does this means I get 50mbps tops rather than the 1gbps I'd get on macOS (yes my home internet is fiber and supports that :) ).17:48
lunorianIs there a way to use the commercial Wi-Fi driver rather than the open source one? This issue even affects 18.10 Beta.17:48
tomreyncim209: you should provide context, such as ubuntu version, (whether and which) graphical desktop, architecture, kernel version.17:48
RoscoePColtrane117:49
cim209oh my bad17:49
cim209lubuntu 18.04 64 bit, generic usb keyboard, latest kernel17:49
cim2094.15.0-34-generic17:50
tomreyncim209: do you happen to have a file /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/*numlock* ?17:56
tomreyncim209: also, what does this return: gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.keyboard numlock-state17:58
tomreynlunorian: it's hardly possible to answer this unless you'll post "lsusb" and "lspci -nn" from this system running ubuntu (can be booted from a live / installer iso)17:59
lunorianCan anyone help with the wifi issue I posted above?17:59
lunorianThanks tomreyn17:59
lunorianOne moment:  Model Identifier:MacBookPro12,118:00
lunorianThat would probably help you18:00
lunorianPlugging in my desktop18:00
tomreynit doesn't18:00
lunorianrebooting will break IRC18:00
lunorianneed to get a second client up18:00
cim209tomreyn, sorry i was out for a moment18:01
cim209let me get the output18:01
cim209tomreyn, No such schema “org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.keyboard”18:01
cim20950-xubuntu-numlock.conf does exists18:02
tomreyncim209: which login manager do you use there? lightdm? gdm?18:02
cim209how do i check?18:03
cim209tomreyn, sorry i'm not using lubuntu but xubuntu18:03
cim209got those 2 mixed up18:03
tomreyncim209: xubuntu-default-settings sets the numlock state lightdm should use in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-xubuntu-numlock.conf - I suspect this can be overridden by placing the same file in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ and editing it to match your needs.18:06
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cim209tomreyn, the output of 50-xubuntu-numlock.conf is greeter-setup-script=xubuntu-numlockx18:07
tomreyncim209: https://www.reddit.com/r/xubuntu/comments/8vjq2k/lightdm_numlock_bug_for_laptop_users/18:07
cim209i'm on a desktop18:08
cim209should i just remove that entry?18:08
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lunoriantom can you repeat the commands to give you info about my mac18:10
lunorianso I can get wifi working correctly?18:10
tomreyn<tomreyn> lunorian: it's hardly possible to answer this unless you'll post "lsusb" and "lspci -nn" from this system running ubuntu (can be booted from a live / installer iso)18:10
lunorianI am in live usb now18:10
lunorianI just needed you to repeat the commands18:10
lunorianmaking a aste now18:10
lunorian:)18:10
cim209let me test it out18:11
tomreyncim209: i think you want to install numlockx and configure it to disable numlock by default18:11
lunorianhttp://paste.debian.net/hidden/fab5c34e/18:11
lunoriandoes that info help18:11
cim209ok let me try18:12
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cim209tomreyn, it's already installed18:13
lunorianOne other thing that might be helpful: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/6c0b8ab3/18:13
lunorianIt says 5.26Ghz great - I'd like to make sure I'm on 80Mhz and using 802.11AC standard for max browsing speeds18:13
cim209i'm gonna reboot the machine and see if the numlock off is set18:14
tomreynlunorian: do you have a way to bring this system online through a wired connection?18:18
lunorianWi-Fi "works" already18:18
cim209tomreyn, didn't work18:18
tomreyncim209: what did you do?18:18
lunorianIt just doesn't support the 802.11 standard I need18:18
cim209set it to numlockx off18:19
cim209in the lightdm conf18:19
tomreyncim209: what is "it"?18:19
lunorianokay hmm now this is weird18:19
lunorianGoogle is showing 200Mbps on a speed test18:19
lunorianthis incidcts at least 802.11n being used instead of 802.11g18:19
lunorianI'd still like to get an 802.11AC connection working18:19
tomreynlunorian: if you had a full ubuntu installation you could go to System Settings > Software & Updates, then the 'Additional Drivers' tab, and enable the "Broadcom 802.11 wireless driver source from bcmwl-kernel-source (proprietary)" option18:21
lunorianThat didn't happen last year when I was on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS18:21
lunorianShould I install the 18.10 Beta?18:21
lunorianWill it let me upgrade to stable without too many issues when it comes out18:22
lunorianOr will I need a reinstall18:22
tomreynlunorian: last year, ubuntu 18.04 was not released. you were testing a pre-release version. how about testing it now that it is released?18:23
lunorianThis is the current speed on an 18.10 Live Session (from an SD Card) https://share.riseup.net/#w5EL4qAnaHN78rf0DGdPLg18:23
lunorianIt's closer to what I want but still far from perfect.18:23
tomreynlunorian: i don't know for sure whether this will make 'ac' mode work, but it's worth a try. this hardware you have there is not ideal.18:23
lunorianI understand that - closed hardware is going to be more difficult to deal with its challenges18:23
cim209tomreyn, i did some digging and editing /etc/default/numlockx to =off did it18:24
tomreyncim209: glad you worked it out.18:24
cim209thanks for the help18:26
tomreynyou're welcome18:26
lunoriantomreyn: I'll likely have to try your suggestion in additional drivers before debugging any further18:27
cim209hey lunorian how'd you get the hybrid graphics to work? i had to turn off the discrete card on my mbp 201118:27
lunorianIdk this is an 18.10 Beta Live SD Card18:27
lunorianit just works18:27
lunorianI'm using a MacBook Pro Early 2015 though18:27
lunorianSo it has different drivers18:27
cim209it might be using the onboard intel graphics18:28
lunorianmost likely18:28
lunorian:D18:28
cim209that means it's not using the gpu lol18:28
lunoriantomreyn: When Ubuntu 18.10 is officially released can I upgrade from beta or will it require a reinstall?18:28
tomreynlunorian: you can just install updates. however, keep in mind that 18.10 is not an LTS release18:29
lunorianhttp://paste.debian.net/hidden/310266dc/18:30
lunorianThis is the sources.list18:30
lunorianother than the "cdrom" these will just go from beta sources to stable right?18:31
cim209looks like 18.10 has better laptop support18:31
tomreynso if you're someone who just likes 'things to work' i'd recommend LTS over a standard release.18:31
lunorianindeed18:31
lunorianand the wifi doesn't freaking disconnect every 5 minutes18:31
lunorianWell 18.04LTS doesn't just work18:31
lunorianit has worse wifi support18:31
cim209does the wifi icon have a question mark?18:31
tomreynthen file a bug, and follow up on it18:32
lunorianin 18.04 it did18:32
lunorian18.10 feels amazing18:32
lunorianlike I'm very impressed with it18:32
cim209lunorian, i'm typing to you on an old 2007 imac with lubuntu installed18:32
lunorianwe're using much different hardware ;)18:32
tomreynsome apple hardware users filed bugs but didn't follow up on them so they never got handled.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/1775583 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/178045218:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1775583 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wifi drops out, takes 5 mins to recover" [Medium,Incomplete]18:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1780452 in linux (Ubuntu) "14e4:43ba Broadcom BCM43602 doesn't see 5GHz APs" [Medium,Expired]18:32
cim209i leave the machine on but sometimes the wifi drops so i wrote a simple bash script to restart the nmcli manager18:32
lunorianwell it was dropping every 10 minutes on 18.04 lts18:33
lunorianat least18:33
lunorianit was unusable18:33
tomreynso where is the bug report you filed?18:33
lunorianhttp://does.not.exist/:P18:33
tomreyn^ your problem18:33
lunorian18.10 has it resolved though18:34
lunorianso there's not a need if I install 18.1018:34
tomreynit may have been resolved thanks to someone reporting the same bug report against the linux kernel, so that a later kernel version (which will be in use in 18.10) got a fix / workaround.18:35
lunorianEither way it seems to be resolved so great18:35
lunorian:D18:35
tomreynsuch fixes or workarounds can be backported to LTS releases if bugs are filed against them, allowing you to use these LTS releases with the full featurte set and benefit from long term support.18:36
lunorianI'm not too concerned with using an LTS release18:37
lunorianBesides the UI of 18.10 looks amazing18:37
cim209yeah new theme18:37
cim209communitheme or something like that18:38
lunorianWell good job18:38
lunorianLooks better than macOS Mojave dark theme18:38
cim209the icons looks much better18:39
mindampoh my gawd, i just coughed up my first tonsil stone randomly18:39
* mindamp vomits18:40
lunorianmindamp: Are you okay?18:40
tomreyn!ot | mindamp18:40
ubottumindamp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:40
mindampoh i see, thank you for spamming with 3 lines of why my emote was off topic18:41
tomreynmindamp: you're welcome. get well soon and please stay on topic. there is #ubuntu-offtopic for non ubuntu support chat.18:42
mindampoh you don't say thats great18:42
mindampi'm gonna need you to go ahead and define "on topic" for me please18:43
tomreynmindamp: please read the /topic18:43
mindampYes, the description of "on topic" is not there.18:43
mindampCould you elaborate some since apparently it's strictly adhered to, i don't want to get banned for mentioning I had a tonsil stone.18:44
mindampIn the future that is.18:44
tomreyn!ops | mindamp18:44
ubottumindamp: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax18:44
mindampI just see a list of names there, no description of "on topic" ?18:44
mindampjust seems like more spam, where is the definition of this?18:45
genii!ot | mindamp18:46
ubottumindamp: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:46
mindampmore spam? wher eis the descrption of "on topic" he discussed? pleas stop spamming also.18:47
mindampwtf?18:48
mindampmore kick spam? how much spam am i going to get for saying "i had my first tonsil stone today"18:48
geniimindamp: Ubuntu support is on topic. Discussion of other things take to the #ubuntu-offtopic channel and not here18:48
lunorianmindamp: You've been asked several times to use the off-topic channel. Rather than obsessing over silly symantics just use the off-topic channel.18:48
mindampwhich, i did while installing ubuntu, so technically it's on topic.18:48
mindampwhat?18:49
mindampseveral times?18:49
mindampi was told once, after i said i had a tonsil stone.18:49
Younderubuntu-offtopic is a channel I frequent myself. We are not all idiots. We just like to chant about our hardware and the like. And our software preferences.18:57
antonmhello19:02
lobatahi19:11
tomreynhello antonm + lobata19:12
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cesdoHello all!20:07
cesdoPlease help. I use gscan2pdf. Here is right djvu file.20:08
cesdohttps://imgur.com/a/AmrnnAt20:08
cesdoand here is broken pdf.20:08
cesdohttps://imgur.com/a/wMipB1V20:08
cesdoHow to get the right pdf?20:10
coz_cesdo, out of curiousity, did yousign into that site?20:12
coz_cesdo,  i think the issue is on that site, not with ubuntu specifically20:13
cesdocoz_: gscan to pdf scans documents and saves them to pdf and to other formats20:14
tomreyncoz_: which "site" are you referring to?20:14
cesdocoz_: *gscan*pdf20:15
cesdo*gscan2pdf20:15
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lavinhogood night20:36
lavinhohow to install ubuntu 18.04 on lenovo ideapad 320s ?20:36
vimarHI20:36
lavinhoblack screen20:36
lavinhoon bboot20:36
Bashing-om!nomodeset | lavinho try:20:37
ubottulavinho try:: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter20:37
adrian_1908lavinho: just a hunch, you could try using the `nomodeset` kernel parameter. Ah Bashing-om beat me to it, even better :)20:37
EzepHello ! Has anyone had issues with touchpad's mouse updating to 18.04 LTS ? Touchpad buttons work but not the mouse20:38
lavinhonomodeset why ?20:39
EzepIn 16.04's Unity it worked well. Even in lightdm Touchpad works but when I login to Gnome it stop responding20:39
adrian_1908lavinho: look at the forum link posted.20:40
adrian_1908It's a workaround for a graphical issue you might be having.20:40
EzepI tried installing xserver-xorg-input-libinput, purging synaptics, doing the oposite. xinput recognize the touchpad well20:47
stochastixHas anyone gotten external video devices like the cablematters usb C to video device that uses the ax88179_178a driver to work?20:47
stochastixIm wondering if it is still suffering from an Xorg bug ?20:48
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adam_j_tHey all, question - I have an old iPod that I've been using for years with iTunes on Windows. Rhythmbox does podcast syncing pretty well but doesn't auto delete old episodes. Anyone else using the same setup have any wisdom?22:35
lunorianHow do I report crashes in the 18.10 Beta?23:09
lunorianXorg every so often crashes and restarts my login session requiring me to login again.23:09
xamithanYou'd report that directly to the xorg,  not the ubuntu launchpad23:10
lunorianI'm not certain its Xorg the crash report when I submitted stated something about xorg23:11
lunorianits ubuntu beta though23:11
lunoriandoesn't affect 18.04lts as far as im aware23:11
xamithanWell if in doubt,  file it at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu with all the information you have23:12
lunorianit gave me the report a problem screen23:13
lunorianand I reported there23:13
lunoriando I still need to file a bug report23:13
xamithanYes it is best to do that so they can ask you for additional information if needed23:14
lunorianokay23:15
lunorianwriting a report then23:15
lunorianhttps://share.riseup.net/#uM4lR2nLUvFAdf1DLHi3oA23:17
lunoriannot letting me view the bug site23:17
xamithanThats strange,  it did it for me too.  Try to just hit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu?23:19
lunorianworks now23:21
lunorianmust of been a temp issue23:21
lunorianHow do I find old crash data?23:22
lunorianhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qvyhMWP5tK/23:23
lunorianThat indicates it's uploaded - can I get a link to the upload or can only the devs see that?23:24
lunorianokay never mind23:27
lunorianI figured it out23:27
lunorianhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/179518423:29
ubottuError: launchpad bug 1795184 not found23:29
lunorianHow long does it usually take before someone follows up on a bug report23:35
unique_idIs it possible to 'upgrade' from 18.04 to the 18.10 beta?23:41
guiver_dlunorian: 18.10 should go to #ubuntu+1, but your bug report shows within a second on announce, so if carefully written it could be quick, if not it could be when others confirm or anytime...23:41
guiver_dunique_id: that too should be on #ubuntu+1, but yes it is, `do-release-upgrade -d`if I remember correctly23:41
lunorianIt says the report is private23:42
lunoriando i need to change that23:43
lunorianor is it okay as is23:43
guiver_dlunorian: some attachments (reports) for bugs reported in launchpad are not public, because they may contain memory dumps etc, which potentially (unlikely but still possible) contain sensitive personal info... the main public part of the launchpad bug report is where you should focus23:48
guiver_dfor starters - the bug link you listed - ubottu should have provided details (subject etc) which should have been private, I can't find it either - that is a problem23:50
hydingI did dist-upgrade from 16.04 to bionic on an EC2 instance, and it failed to boot. I have attached the volume to a different ec2 instance and am trying to fix it in a chroot, but linux-image-4.15.0-34-generic keeps failing to install23:51
hydingError is "grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/xvda1.  Check your device.map."23:51
hydinganyone have a tip on how I can proceed?23:51
hyding(If all else fails, I did take a snapshot of 16.04 I can roll back to, but I was really hoping to get bionic working)23:52
RoscoePColtranejust use your 16.x snapshot23:52
guiver_derror in my last - should *NOT* have been private23:52
hydingRoscoePColtrane: there's no solution for this upgrade issue?23:53
hydingis it possible to do an in-place upgrade from 16.04 to 18.04, or do I need to go through some intermediate step first?23:57
guiver_dhyding: upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 is done correctly by `do-release-upgrade` - dist-upgrade is for debian, not Ubuntu (do-release-upgrade script ensures timing of upgrade occurs correctly... needed for ubuntu)23:58
hydingsorry, I misspoke - I did, in fact, use `do-release-upgrade`23:59

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