[00:38] <tsimonq2> wxl, @TheWendyPower: Urgent ping on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81
[00:39] <tsimonq2> waaaat where is lugito O_O
[00:40] <tsimonq2> k, let's see about this lugito backlog...
[00:40] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81
[00:40] <tsimonq2> Harumph.
[00:42] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> wxl, @TheWendyPower: Urgent ping on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81], So use Firefox in the slide show, or don't show the browser in the slide show?
[00:42] <tsimonq2> Use Firefox in the slideshow.
[00:42] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> Sounds good, can do!
[00:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAb6daaaed74c8: install stuff] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAb6daaaed74c8
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[01:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1512
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[01:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1513
[01:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1514
[01:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> That Falkon thing, doesn't affect trojita? i don't know trojjita and haven't use much falkon, my only concern is because friefox and thunderbird share things.
[01:30] <wxl> nope
[01:30] <wxl> trojita is webkit
[01:32] <lubot> <HMollerCl> cool
[01:32] <tsimonq2> eew but OK :)
[01:33] <wxl> html mail is for fools anyways
[01:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> jajaj
[01:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I'm trying to understand what I've to do for D17
[01:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> git diff gets me nothing.
[01:34] <wxl> you have to read a little bit of the manual :)
[01:34] <wxl> git diff alone does nothing
[01:34] <wxl> it's meant to compare two things
[01:34] <wxl> you need to specify which two things to compare
[01:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1515
[01:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> aaa, ok. I thought there was something completely wrong
[01:35] <wxl> so you'd want to do `git diff revision-before-your-changes HEAD`
[01:35] <wxl> you can dig through `git log` to figure out that revision reference
[01:36] <wxl> @Zebedee i understand you've had some problems with falkon/nvidia?
[01:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1516
[01:39] <wxl> oh and @HMollerCl you'll wnat to output that to a file
[01:39] <wxl> you can apply it with `patch < /path/to/path`
[01:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1517
[01:46] <lubot> <HMollerCl> origin/ubuntu/cosmic did the trick
[01:46] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.11 => 1.12] (lubuntu)
[01:47] <lubot> <HMollerCl> but I don't know why. at least in .git origin was the repository
[01:48] <wxl> what were you trying to do? origin is typically the name of the remote
[01:49] <lubot> <HMollerCl> comparing against remote
[01:49] <lubot> <HMollerCl> git diff origin/ubuntu/cosmic > patch.txt ... did the trick
[01:49] <wxl> oh i was just saying to compare in what you have. 
[01:50] <wxl> basically you're just collecting the changes that make up your commit without necessarily dragging along history, which will get you in trouble
[01:50] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> oh i was just saying to compare in what you have.], what I have against the remote, or not?
[01:50] <wxl> so let's say you've got a `git log` like this:
[01:50] <wxl>  3 your change
[01:50] <wxl>  2 some other change of yours
[01:50] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> basically you're just collecting the changes that make up your commit with …], I get the idea. I thought it was not necessary, I thought git took care of different people working in the same archive
[01:50] <wxl>  1 the last commit before your first change
[01:50] <wxl>  0 the commit before that one, etc.
[01:51] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> 1 the last commit before your first change], I understand that
[01:51] <wxl> then if you `git diff 1 HEAD > patch` you'll have all the changes in patch that make up 3 and 2
[01:52] <wxl> git has mechanisms to work with it, but where there are conflicts (as you'll have with the changelog in your case), things become more complicated
[01:52] <lubot> <HMollerCl> aa, ok, I get the changelog conflict
[01:52] <wxl> yep
[01:52] <wxl> to be further clear let's say upstream has:
[01:52] <wxl>  A someone else's change
[01:52] <wxl>  B some other person's change
[01:53] <wxl> then that git diff i mentioned doesn't even consider those. it's all local
[01:54] <lubot> <HMollerCl> aaa, ok. got it.
[01:55] <lubot> <HMollerCl> thanks!
[01:56] <wxl> the suggestions i gave both involve getting your local copy in a state so that you don't have conflicts with the remote
[01:59] <lubot> <HMollerCl> the apply the patch with git apply?
[02:00] <wxl> i usually just use `patch` but i bet `git apply` would work too
[02:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> trying to clone give me a ECDSA WARNING
[02:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> you change something?
[02:01] <wxl> yes the IP changed
[02:01] <wxl> delete the offending line in ~/.ssh/known_hosts
[02:04] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @wxl [<wxl> i usually just use `patch` but i bet `git apply` would work too], So 'git patch <path to change log>'
[02:05] <wxl> @TheWendyPower hm? there's no `git patch`
[02:12] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> Never mind, I'll go back through it all again. I'm also having a change log error when trying to git pull
[02:12] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> You have the solution above, I just need to read it again.
[02:12] <wxl> if upstream has conflicting changes that might explain some things
[02:12] <wxl> see my note to Hnas on D17
[02:13] <wxl> that will add some context
[02:13] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> Sounds good!
[02:17] <wxl> if you get stuck @TheWendyPower let me know the error
[02:21] <lubot> <HMollerCl> sorry have to force to D17 ?
[02:21] <wxl> you could have done that
[02:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> need to or could I live as 22?
[02:22] <lubot> <HMollerCl> *leave
[02:22] <wxl> don't need to
[02:22] <wxl> makes it easier tho
[02:25] <wxl> @tsimonq2: see any problem landing D22? the only reason i ask is your commit message about uploading to cosmic
[02:26] <tsimonq2> wxl: Uhm, see my review comment. :)
[02:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I will change changelog to 1.15 and update d17, is that better?
[02:26] <wxl> i just killed D17 :/
[02:26] <tsimonq2> Make a whole separate entry above 1.14.
[02:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> yup 1.15
[02:27] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, yeah @HMollerCL.
[02:27] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yeah, that's cool.
[02:27] <lubot> <HMollerCl> update D17 or D22
[02:27] <tsimonq2> D22
[02:27] <wxl> D22. i killed D17
[02:28] <wxl> we wouldn't have to do deal with this but you waited too long @HMollerCl ;)
[02:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1518
[02:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> jaja
[02:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> ok D22 is updated
[02:30] <wxl> oh lemme go land this
[02:30] <tsimonq2> Don't mess it up this time. XD
[02:31] <wxl> i won't now that i've figured out the way around your stupid incomplete instructions XD
[02:32]  * tsimonq2 kicks wxl's butt
[02:32] <tsimonq2> Get 'er done!
[02:32] <tsimonq2> XD
[02:33] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Maybe we could do a smaill list with things that are better in lxqt than lxde, so people move happier. People hate change.
[02:33] <wxl> done
[02:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS9c92b3a78d72: enable GTK theme as default and set it to Arc-Darker. Set featherpad as default…] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS9c92b3a78d72
[02:33] <tsimonq2> k love you long time.
[02:33] <wxl> @HMollerCl start a release annoucement on rBLOG
[02:33] <tsimonq2> Anyone actually test this thing? :)
[02:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Anyone actually test this thing? :)], which?
[02:34] <tsimonq2> D22
[02:34] <wxl> yup
[02:34] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I tested it excpet for the gcompile part
[02:34] <tsimonq2> k cool
[02:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I mean, I hope gcompile runs during installation
[02:35] <tsimonq2> How do we know this could even happen?
[02:35] <tsimonq2> Has anyone done a test package build? :)
[02:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> glib-compile-schemas
[02:36] <lubot> <HMollerCl> this gschemas.override are used by mate
[02:36] <tsimonq2> Right.
[02:37] <tsimonq2> But in their packaging, do they do anything special? Like a postinst script?
[02:37] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl look at it and didn't found it.
[02:37] <lubot> <HMollerCl> didn't found they do.
[02:39] <wxl> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mate-dev/ubuntu-mate/ubuntu-mate-settings/files/head:/debian/
[02:40] <tsimonq2> Next time, please put such information in the task. :)
[02:40] <tsimonq2> I'll upload it.
[02:40] <tsimonq2> wxl: Sooooo when are you applying for PPU? :)
[02:40] <wxl> soon
[02:41] <wxl> first i got to figure out trojita
[02:41] <wxl> i'm so freaking close.. but i got to figure out all the different build methodologies to play well together 
[02:43] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-default-settings (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.13 => 1.15] (lubuntu)
[05:12] <lyorian_> @HmollerCl include lxqt-runner in that list
[06:45] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @wxl I can't resolve the merge issues with the changelog. I can see what the issue is when I open the changelog file. I'm going to get some sleep and then tell you everything I tried in the morning.
[11:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @lyorian_ [<lyorian_> @HmollerCl include lxqt-runner in that list], That is because I'm thinking
[11:19] <lubot> <HMollerCl> On it
[13:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T82: Fix edge case resulting in the install desktop file not being removed] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T82
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[14:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> ...but why? :P
[14:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> It must like spamming it.
[16:39] <lubot> <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T82
[16:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Fix edge case resulting in the install desktop file not being removed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T82
[16:39] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Huh, so it didn't spam it that time.
[16:39] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Interesting......
[16:41] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> So here is what my changelog looks like after git pull. I can see the problem. I just don't know how to fix it. In searching for a solution I tried 'git fetch —all' then 'git reset —hard' and still have the same issue. If I edit the changelog so it is correct then it wants me to commit it.  ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SFSvC6C9
[16:41] <lubot> 8w/
[18:05] <wxl> @TheWendyPower empty paste
[18:05] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @TheWendyPower empty paste], Not here
[18:05] <wxl> wot
[18:06] <wxl> going back to the question of the state of synaptics here's a new touchpad tool— using libinput https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=135554
[18:10] <wxl> @TheWendyPower i see you didn't follow the instructions i gave hans
[18:11] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> It told me that patch was trash.
[18:12] <wxl> really? that's bizarre
[18:13] <wxl> oh well
[18:13] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> This has been the story of my life....
[18:14] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> 'patch: **** Only garbage was found in the patch input.'
[18:14] <wxl> can you pastebin the patch please?
[18:15] <wxl> i mean at this point it's probably irrelevant but worth looking into for the next time you might need to do this
[18:18] <wxl> that said, to resolve this: 
[18:19] <wxl>  1. delete lines 1-5,21 from the changelog
[18:19] <wxl>  2. git add debian/changelog
[18:19] <wxl>  3. git status and make sure there isn't anything under "Unmerged files" that you need to worry about
[18:20] <wxl>  4. git commit -m "update changelog for recent changes"
[18:21] <wxl>  5. arc diff or git push depending
[18:23] <wxl> if it's more compilcated, you might want to use `git mergetool` which will give you a three way view of local, remote, and the common ancestor
[18:23] <wxl> mergetool can be given a tool to use for the changes
[18:24] <wxl> i'm not sure of the BEST qt option but kdiff3 would be good
[18:24] <wxl> !info kdiff3
[18:24] <ubot93> kdiff3 (source: kdiff3): compares and merges 2 or 3 files or directories. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.98-4 (cosmic), package size 578.8 kB, installed size 3196 kB
[18:27] <wxl> oh actually kdiff3-qt
[18:31] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> The patch.txt file is blank. I did 'git reset —merge' and I'm going to go back and read things again. I'm having way too many issues. The problem has to something I'm doing wrong. It is ridiculous the number of issues I've been having... I have to be skipping a step somewhere. bangs head on desk
[18:32] <wxl> well that particular issue was obviously in the creation of the patch
[18:32] <wxl> considering you have the patch, it's probably not a redirection issue
[18:32] <wxl> it's more likely that you didn't specify the right references
[18:33] <wxl> you might have specified two references which really didn't change relative to one another-- or worse yet the same ones
[18:33] <wxl> in git log you might have had:
[18:33] <wxl>  3 your change
[18:33] <wxl>  2 previous change
[18:34] <wxl> so you would have wanted something like `git diff 2 3` or `git diff 2 HEAD` but if you made the mistake of doing, say, `git diff 3 HEAD` that's another way of saying `git diff 3 3` which obviously produces an empty result
[18:34] <wxl> that said, just do like i said above. it will be quick and easy
[18:36] <wxl> i gave hans the instructions i gave knowing that merges can be a real pain
[18:36] <wxl> the one you have is EASY, so you should be able to work with it :)
[18:52] <wxl> wow lyorian_ you are on fire with the manual
[18:52] <lyorian_> yep
[18:52] <wxl> do you have a lot of translations already? i assume not
[18:53] <lyorian_> wxl nope haven't gotten to that part yet
[18:54] <wxl> well the interface still doesn't expose a way to change languages nor a way to change versions so that's kind of an issue
[18:54] <wxl> not your issue though XD
[18:57] <lyorian_> I think that might be exposed in conf.py with something under language but I don't know much about that yet
[18:58] <wxl> i'd urge you to make a task on phab and subscribe @tsimonq2 and i. normal priority i think would be fine. that way at least we won't forget it :)
[19:04] <lubot> <HMollerCl> (Photo, 1280x215) https://i.imgur.com/quSQWOu.jpg Got that error lifebooting i386. It still works
[19:05] <wxl> strange
[19:05] <wxl> i wouldn't worry bout it if there is no other effect
[19:06] <wxl> someone's already reporting issues with upgrades, but i've co-opted one of their bugs to collect problems and solutions https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-manual/+bug/1795248
[19:06] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1795248 in lubuntu-manual "no clear pathway to upgrade to LXQt version from LXDE" [Critical, New]
[19:07] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Yeaaaah so duplicate network icon in existing LXDE installs is kinda my fault. :)
[19:07] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I need to get to a computer and fix default settings.
[19:07] <wxl> no it
[19:07] <wxl> s not
[19:19] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Last dailies have new nicer shutdown dialog
[19:19] <wxl> oh?
[19:20] <wxl> only on the installed system i assume
[19:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Probably due to the change to Breeze.
[19:22] <lubot> <tsimonq2> It makes things look so much qooler.
[19:26] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Could be
[19:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1530
[19:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1531
[19:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1532
[19:52] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @ZebedeeBoss Did Falkon start crashing for you again under Lubuntu dailies?
[19:52] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Or does it still crash?
[19:52] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Same with @BigDaddyLinux
[19:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1533
[19:53] <wxl> https://interverse.tk/qview/
[19:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1534
[19:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1535
[19:54] <wxl> so here's a question: why didn't we firefox from the beginning?
[19:54] <lubot> <tsimonq2> 'cause that was before our change of direction.
[19:54] <lubot> <tsimonq2> "Firefox uses more RAM blah blah" :)
[19:55] <wxl> huh?
[19:55] <wxl> oh well that's questionable
[20:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1536
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1537
[20:05] <wxl> did you see cjwatson's fixes didn't fix our logos @tsimonq2 ?
[20:06] <tsimonq2> wxl: And I totally blame you. :)
[20:06] <wxl> well that would be foolish
[20:06] <tsimonq2> Where in the HECK is our high quality Lubuntu logo @VikingRedwolf?
[20:06] <wxl> basically the one guy who knows about it *THE MOST* seems to have an issue
[20:06] <wxl> or he did something wrong
[20:06] <tsimonq2> I bet I can fix it if I just had the high quality logo.
[20:06] <tsimonq2> iff
[20:06] <tsimonq2> But @VikingRedwolf won't give it up.
[20:07] <tsimonq2> I need text and logo combination.
[20:07] <wxl> actually i might have it if you have that repo set up for me to dump his stuff
[20:12] <lubot> <BigDaddyLinux> @tsimonq2 [Same with @BigDaddyLinux], It does yes
[20:12] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Where in the HECK is our high quality Lubuntu logo @VikingRedwolf?], Define high quality
[20:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf [Define high quality], SVG quality
[20:13] <wxl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FWQn9tv9N4/ looks good.
[20:13] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @wxl [<wxl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FWQn9tv9N4/ looks good.], Aye
[20:13] <wxl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DFvmSqQqkR/ also looks good
[20:14] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> @tsimonq2 [SVG quality], https://cloud.rafaellaguna.uk/index.php/s/KWJxHabiLsxnMzH
[20:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> No!
[20:14] <lubot> <tsimonq2> With Lubuntu text .__.
[20:14] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> https://cloud.rafaellaguna.uk/index.php/s/b5pGaLDkNcjWzLC
[20:15] <lubot> <VikingRedwolf> I'll send them
[20:15] <wxl> isn't this what you sent me/
[20:23] <tsimonq2> Alright, wxl and @TheWendyPower, for now on please directly push lubuntu-default-settings changes to Phabricator: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/
[20:23] <wxl> FINALLY
[20:23] <tsimonq2> The repositories under Clone are accurate.
[20:23] <tsimonq2> So no more backwards Launchpad nonsensical crap.
[20:26] <tsimonq2> wxl: Same with artwork.
[20:26] <tsimonq2> No more Launchpad.
[20:26] <wxl> yay
[20:26] <wxl> seeds?
[20:26] <tsimonq2> Those HAVE to stay on LP.
[20:26] <wxl> k
[20:27] <tsimonq2> k so now I'm looking at this lubuntu-default-settings SRU.
[20:28] <wxl> whichn?
[20:28] <tsimonq2> There's https://launchpad.net/bugs/1786602 but that FTBFS in bionic-proposed so I'm going to re-upload, lumping in a fix for duplicate network icons.
[20:28] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1786602 in lubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Bionic) "Lubuntu 18.04 'Lubuntu Qt session' crashes the system" [Critical, Fix Committed]
[20:29] <tsimonq2> But yeah, I got this.
[20:29] <wxl> ah good
[20:29] <wxl> be sure about those duplicate network icons though
[20:29] <wxl> i'm not sure that's actually a thing
[20:29] <wxl> i don't see them in live for sure
[20:29] <tsimonq2> It's freaking flaky, but I know why.
[20:30] <tsimonq2> We have a special panel plugin that right now only does volume.
[20:30] <tsimonq2> That also has the ability to do networking stuff.
[20:30] <tsimonq2> ...we don't explicitly disable it. :P
[20:30] <wxl> hahahahhaha
[20:30] <wxl> oooooooooooooooooook
[20:30] <tsimonq2> So we need to throw a config file in there which says NO SHUT UP DON'T RANDOMLY TURN ON.
[20:30] <wxl> cuz that bug you saw was from someone who had a very well-entrenched bionic install that they upgraded to cosmic
[20:30] <wxl> they got two icons because one was lxqt and one was lxde
[20:30] <tsimonq2> Yeah, not the same thing, dawg. :)
[20:30] <tsimonq2> Right.
[20:30] <tsimonq2> I bet.
[20:31] <tsimonq2> I almost bet it's because on upgrading, LXQt sorta just steals the LXDE Openbox config.
[20:31] <tsimonq2> I'm tempted to almost say "don't even try to upgrade this thing" XD
[20:31] <wxl> well the point is they're not even the same icons
[20:31] <tsimonq2> Right.
[20:31] <tsimonq2> Which is weird.
[20:31] <wxl> same with power management
[20:32] <tsimonq2> But ultimately, this is a Bionic thing that needs SRU fun.
[20:32] <wxl> we do need the documentation. it's inevitable
[20:32] <tsimonq2> Which documentation?
[20:32] <wxl> how to upgrade
[20:33] <tsimonq2> ah
[20:33] <tsimonq2> Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah idk dude :)
[20:33] <tsimonq2> Probably going to be a similar situation to KDE 4 -> Plasma [5]
[20:33] <wxl> some of it's going to be "look at your configuration for ${LXDE_APP} and adjust the configuration for ${LXQt_APP} accordingly but"
[20:33] <wxl> oh?
[20:34] <tsimonq2> Yeah idk dude, I'm just not really comfortable pouring hours into writing that shiznit :/
[20:34] <tsimonq2> lyorian_ has been on fire with the manual, maybe she can do it?
[20:46] <lyorian_> Yeah that will be a bit challanging on how to write
=== lyorian_ is now known as lynorian
[20:48] <lubot> <ZebedeeBoss> @tsimonq2 [@ZebedeeBoss Did Falkon start crashing for you again under Lubuntu dailies?], It was not crashing on the last daily I used.  I can retest on the beta
[20:49] <lynorian> @ZebedeeBoss what sites?
[20:52] <lubot> <ZebedeeBoss> @lynorian [<lynorian> @ZebedeeBoss what sites?], No idea on what sites specifically. I can retest on lubuntu beta and report back here
[20:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS0229d7cbb2e3: Sync with the archive.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS0229d7cbb2e3
[20:52] <lynorian> ok
[20:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS4be7e413ec21: Remove /usr/share/xsessions/QLubuntu.desktop from lubuntu-default-settings.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS4be7e413ec21
[20:56] <wxl> @ZebedeeBoss can you report a bug if you do find a crash? `ubuntu-bug falkon` and include the site
[20:57] <lubot> <ZebedeeBoss> @wxl [<wxl> @ZebedeeBoss can you report a bug if you do find a crash? `ubuntu-bug falk …], Will do
[23:18] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Might be the one and only time I put this here, but this is now a thing: https://www.patreon.com/tsimonq2
[23:59] <lubot> danieus was added by: danieus