[00:00] <guiver_d> hyding: i can't help with your issue, it could be no-one is around at this time (it's a nice sunday morning! etc) and you may do better asking at another time...
[00:01] <hyding> thanks :)
[00:02] <hyding> do you have this `device.map` file that the kernel package wants? Maybe if I knew what one looked like, I could construct one that would allow me to proceed.
[00:02] <hyding> (I'm assuming it's supposed to appear somewhere under /boot)
[00:04] <guiver_d> sorry well outside my area of knowledge - https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Device-map.html
[00:05] <hyding> yeah, mine too - I already had done some googling, but the docs seem devoid of examples, and I can't quite seem to parse them correctly to make a functioning file
[00:21] <granttrec> is there anything like red hats llvm-toolset on ubuntu?
[00:26] <guiver_d> granttrec: llvm-dev maybe
[00:33] <RoscoePColtrane> hyding: release upgrades sometimes go problem free for "some" users...sometimes it's less problematic to just reinstall the newest if chasing the newest distro is something you're into
[01:22] <granttrec> is there a meta package for llvm on ubuntu
[01:35] <Lavinho> goood night
[01:35] <Lavinho> how to install ubuntu on lenovo ideapad 320s ?
[01:36] <Lavinho> kernerl panic message
[01:36] <Lavinho> help me please
[01:38] <TimeDoctor> Lavinho: the KP might have more info on what's going wrong
[01:46] <pauletin> hard to say what's wrong. Do the Ubuntu Live CDs work?
[01:49] <WSTWN> s
[01:54] <WSTWN> hello
[02:05] <bparker> uhh... where's x86/x64? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/xenial/release/
[02:07] <ChaiTRex> bparker: It's called amd64 because AMD created x86-64.
[02:07] <TimeDoctor> there isn't any amd64 on that page, either
[02:08] <bparker> ^
[02:08] <GerbilSoft> cdimage only has the less popular archs - http://releases.ubuntu.com/xenial/
[02:09] <bparker> cause that's documented...
[02:09] <bparker> thanks
[02:19] <ImageJPEG> Anyone have experience with VPNs, Ubiquiti Unifi equipment and Ubuntu 18.04?
[02:21] <RoscoePColtrane> ImageJPEG: just elaborate on the Ubuntu issue you're having
[02:22] <RoscoePColtrane> this is the #ubuntu channel after all
[02:24] <WSTWN> whois RoscoePColtrane
[02:45] <ImageJPEG> I'm trying to setup a L2TP VPN with my Unifi USG. I had everything setup and working with 16.04 LTS and recently "upgraded" to 18.04. I removed the repo associated with 16.04 and added universe into my repo so I could install the l2tp package.
[02:46] <ImageJPEG> From what I've heard, now I need to input the Phase 1 and 2 algorithms but the Unifi software doesn't get that detailed so I don't have a clue what to put in.
[02:52] <guiver_d> bparker's documented ** found & being fixed...
[03:16] <Lavinho> gppd night
[03:16] <Lavinho> help me please
[03:17] <Lavinho> the kernel panic not syncing
[03:19] <guiver_d> Lavinho: on boot up?  during operation?  what version of Ubuntu?  kernel version?  real hardware or vm?  details can be helpful.
[03:19] <Lavinho> yes
[03:19] <Lavinho> on boot up usb
[03:19] <Lavinho> ũbuntu 18.04
[03:19] <Lavinho> hardware  ideapad 320s
[03:19] <guiver_d> Did you verify the download (md5sum etc), did you 'check disk for defects' (ie. confirm write to usb was okay)?
[03:19] <Lavinho> yes
[03:20] <Lavinho> okay
[03:30] <guiver_d> Lavinho: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2396635 speaks of issues with amdgpu & later kernels - you could try by adding 'amdgpu.blacklist=yes' to the linux line (e to edit line in grub; can't recall if you can do this on live sorry) on boot as a trial.
[04:13] <elec64> any pulseaudio wiz in here? wondering why my pulseaudio sees my hdmi audio output as 'unplugged'
[04:35] <noob2star> Hi, I'm having this problem on 3 different distros (ubuntu, kubuntu, and xubuntu) where when I try to change my resolution, I get kicked back out to the login screen and logging in does not work. Any tips?
[04:43] <Bashing-om> noob2star: Graphics driver loaded ? ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[05:21] <Ahti> Hello, I have all my docker-compose files in /opt. I installed docker-ce using snap and I can't for the life of me get docker-compose to read the config file from /opt
[05:21] <Ahti> File permissions are set up correctly
[05:21] <Ahti> Does snap sandbox apps?
[05:51] <granttrec> Ahti: yep
[06:12] <Ahti> granttrec, thx
[06:13] <granttrec> Ahti: tbf I've run into permsson issue myself but was not a big enough problem for me to go investigating much
[06:17] <Ahti> I changed the directory where my yml files were to $HOME/snap/docker/common, that solved that (bit of confusion how to get docker accessible by non-root, but anyway)
[06:18] <Ahti> Now i'm having an issue with docker running behind ufw,
[06:19] <Ahti> I shouldve used docker.io instead of the snap me thinks to make this a bit simpler
[06:19] <Ahti> but oh well, learning opportunity
[07:55] <leeijaw> https://dl.bintray.com/rabbitmq/debian/
[07:55] <leeijaw> I have no probem openning this link in browser
[07:56] <leeijaw> but `apt update` gives 403 Forbidden
[07:56] <leeijaw> What can I do?
[07:56] <leeijaw> I am on Xenial
[08:01] <guiver_d> leeijaw: all I get for https://dl.bintray.com/rabbitmq/debian/dists/xenial/Release is "Forbidden !"  (which I think is the contents of the file!)
[08:01] <leeijaw> Thanks
[08:02] <leeijaw> So there is nothing I can do.
[08:02] <leeijaw> It is the server's fault.
[08:03] <guiver_d> i tried to wget it; no 403 error is correct - the server is rejecting me too.
[08:03] <tykayn1> hi folks
[08:04] <tykayn1> can anybody help me on the resetting of the root mysql password? i tried the dpkg-reconfigure but it nevers asks me anything about root password
[08:05] <guiver_d> leeijaw: i'm not aware of anything you can do, beyond looking for another source for whatever you want from there.. sorry
[09:14] <Victor83> Hi, guys! I have an issue with Ubuntu 18.04 and Phpstorm. Is anybody here who use it also as me?
[09:18] <Victor83> here is a link to video with bug that I have https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ionrzHo0hLHzAakwwjTyTvKkwTdG9YvW
[10:20] <ilias_gr> hi all. where exactly in /root do i have to add a .png or .svg file to have the option to see it in system's icons?
[10:22] <zunk> why do you want to put it in roots home dir?
[10:41] <Mrokii> Hello. This is not directly about Ubuntu, so I'm sorry if it's not fitting in here, but of curiosity... is Pascal a viable, worthwhile option to develop GUI apps on (K)ubuntu?
[10:50] <ducasse> Mrokii: you'd better ask in ##programming, but afaik pascal isn't used much these days (i learnt it in school ages ago)
[10:55] <Mrokii> ducasse: Okay, I will, thanks. I've heard about about pascal many years ago and I like how code is structured. As I highly dislike c I'd be interested in an alternative that produces compiled apps and so thought about Pascal. :)
[10:57] <ducasse> Mrokii: well, the people over in ##programming would have much more knowledge about this than me, i'd rather ask them than listen to my bad ideas :)
[11:02] <granttrec> what is ^@ hidden character in text file called?
[11:04] <granttrec> null char
[11:07] <Mrokii> ducasse: I just went in there and asked. Somebody suggested Javascript... I take that as a joke. :)
[11:08] <ducasse> Mrokii: i would too, a pretty bad one :) "yeah, just use node.js..."
[11:09] <ducasse> Mrokii: if you search alis for programming-related channels, there are plenty
[11:09] <Mrokii> ducasse: I've had my experiences with Javascript and accompanying things like CSS and I will never touch that again if I can avoid it. :)
[11:14] <ducasse> Mrokii: not for desktop applications, at least
[11:14] <Mrokii> ducasse: Exactly.
[11:17] <ducasse> Mrokii: you might try #ubuntu-offtopic as well, it's just a bit offtopic in here
[11:18] <Mrokii> ducasse: I did, but didn't get any answer there, so I tried in here. But I'm trying other suggested rooms now.
[11:23] <mvassilev> hi, I am running an Ubuntu Server 14.04.3 and got auto upgraded from bind9:amd64 1:9.9.5.dfsg-3ubuntu0.17 to 1:9.9.5.dfsg-3ubuntu0.18, how can I downgrade to bind9:amd64 1:9.9.5.dfsg-3ubuntu0.17?
[11:23] <EriC^> mvassilev: try to remove the package then use apt-get install <package>=<version>
[11:24] <EriC^> and maybe pin it so it doesnt auto upgrade
[11:24] <EriC^> !pinning | mvassilev
[11:24] <ducasse> ^^ will only work if the previous version is still in the repos
[11:25] <mvassilev> it is not :)
[11:25] <EriC^> what do you mean by it is not?
[11:25] <jcdutton> Mrokii, popular options for GUI apps are C++ for native, and Java if you want the app to appear in a web browser.  Similarly, java for an Mobile App.
[11:27] <mvassilev> I do not have 1:9.9.5.dfsg-3ubuntu0.17 in /var/cache/apt/archives
[11:27] <EriC^> mvassilev: archives are just the deb's you've installed previously, not the actual ubuntu repos
[11:28] <jcdutton> mvassilev, you can use apt to force a particular version
[11:29] <Mrokii> jcdutton: Thanks, but I looked at these options and don't really like them. Part of why I dislike c-like languages is there (to me) extremely confusing syntax, and that includes c++ and Java, as far as I can tell. That's exactly why I did look for more exotic options. :)
[11:30] <R13ose> Hi
[11:30] <jcdutton> Mrokii, will you ever want you app on a mobile phone or tablet?
[11:30] <mvassilev> jcdutton: it says - E: Version '1:9.9.5.dfsg-3ubuntu0.17' for 'bind9' was not found
[11:31] <jcdutton> R13ose, I see you found that the bad memory chip was the one you could remove.
[11:31] <mvassilev> there is only the '1:9.9.5.dfsg-3ubuntu0.18' version
[11:31] <ducasse> mvassilev: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/14245258
[11:31] <Mrokii> jcdutton: Nope, I'm just thinking about Desktops, Linux in particular.
[11:31] <ducasse> mvassilev: you should be able to grab the .deb there
[11:32] <mvassilev> ducasse: will all the dependencies will be satisfied?
[11:32] <R13ose> jcdutton: yep.  Did you also read that I had to redo my liveusb and fsck the HDD before everything worked again?
[11:32] <mvassilev> ducasse: so installing via apt-get is not possible?
[11:35] <ducasse> mvassilev: you can install with 'apt install ./filename.deb' or 'dpkg -i filename.deb'
[11:36] <R13ose> The only other issue left is I think my wifi is not working well.  I use wired in my bedroom but try don't move the machine for various other reasons.  How do I fix this?
[11:37] <jcdutton> mvassilev, It appears that .17 has been removed. Maybe it has a vulnerability.
[11:38] <mvassilev> yes, .18 is a security update
[11:38] <mvassilev> but I was wondering whether installing .17 could be done via repo
[11:39] <jcdutton> mvassilev, the version available in the pool are: http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bind9/
[11:40] <jcdutton> that covers versions for all ubuntu versions.
[11:40] <jcdutton> mvassilev, what is wrong with version .18 ?
[11:44] <mvassilev> jcdutton: we have some virtual machines behind proxy that no longer have ping to the outside world and this happended after automatic security updates
[11:45] <mvassilev> we are trying to figure out what caused this failure
[11:46] <jcdutton> mvassilev, were the machines rebooted?
[11:46] <mvassilev> jcdutton: yes
[11:49] <jcdutton> mvassilev, probably just a routing problem, that someone at some point changes the route entries to make it work, but forgot to make them perm
[12:01] <jordila> my (Bionic) system crashes at boot ... showing 'systemd-gpt-auto-generator: Failed to dissect: Input/output error' ... i'm puzzled. Any hints ?
[12:07] <jcdutton> mvassilev, pings not working are more likely to be kernel level problems, and firewall config
[12:08] <jcdutton> mvassilev, than any problem related to package versions for applications
[12:34] <kristian_on_linu> hi all
[12:35] <kristian_on_linu> I am having trouble with my wifi chip and want to update the kernel manually. I have not done this for years, so the procedure may have changed
[12:38] <kristian_on_linu> lscpu gives me: Architecture: x86_64, CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
[12:39] <kristian_on_linu> will following the advice in answer #2 here work? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030043/unable-to-upgrade-kernel-after-4-16-3
[12:46] <glitchd> hello all
[12:46] <glitchd> does anyone know any possible change to how the sudoers file is handled in 18.04?
[12:49] <glitchd> came from 16.04 where i wrote a simple script to automate updating the system "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade", I named it upd and i put it in /usr/bin/. then i adjusted the sudoers file to be able to run the command without needing to fill in my sudo password. however, putting the same exact line in my sudoers file in 18.04 does not work, its still asking for my password each time.
[12:55] <enzotib> glitchd, it also depends on the position in the file, it is the same?
[12:57] <glitchd> enzotib, well in my 16.04 install i had it at the end of the file and it worked fine, and when i put it in the same position in 18.04 it completely ignores it.
[12:58] <enzotib> glitchd, can you show me the line?
[12:58] <glitchd> enzotib, this is what i had in 16.04, "glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd"
[12:58] <glitchd> that was the very last line in the file
[12:58] <glitchd> without the quotes of course..
[12:59] <glitchd> enzotib, and this is where it at currently in my 18.04 install
[12:59] <glitchd> # User privilege specification
[12:59] <glitchd> root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[12:59] <glitchd> glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd
[13:00] <enzotib> glitchd, wait a moment, please
[13:00] <glitchd> enzotib, but previously, i did have it as the last line.
[13:00] <glitchd> enzotib, np take your time
[13:01] <glitchd> enzotib, these are the groups i am in "glitchd adm disk cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare vboxusers"
[13:06] <enzotib> glitchd, I cannot find any problem in your setup, seems OK to me
[13:08] <glitchd> enzotib, thats what i thought, but its still asking for a password.
[13:08] <glitchd> enzotib, thats why i was asking if there had been any changes to the way the sudoers file was handled
[13:09] <enzotib> glitchd, but it is still on the last line of sudoers?
[13:09] <glitchd> enzotib, no currently it is higher in the list.# User privilege specification
[13:09] <glitchd> root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[13:09] <glitchd> glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd
[13:10] <enzotib> glitchd, move it to the last line
[13:10] <glitchd> enzotib, ok
[13:10] <glitchd> enzotib, now its here, at the bottom.
[13:10] <glitchd> #includedir /etc/sudoers.d
[13:10] <glitchd> glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd
[13:11] <glitchd> there is a space between those 2 lines
[13:11] <enzotib> no problem
[13:11] <glitchd> enzotib, should i save it to sudoers.tmp, or to sudoers?
[13:11] <enzotib> glitchd, are you using visudo, right?
[13:11] <glitchd> enzotib, yes
[13:12] <glitchd> enzotib, sudo visudo
[13:12] <enzotib> then save and exit
[13:12] <glitchd> save it to sudoers.tmp or to sudoers
[13:12] <glitchd> ?
[13:12] <enzotib> it moves the .tmp to the nontemp after checking the syntax
[13:12] <glitchd> ok, just checking
[13:12] <enzotib> it is automatic
[13:12] <enzotib> just save
[13:13] <enzotib> with the name it propose
[13:13] <glitchd> i saved as sudoers.tmp, then i opened another terminal and entered upd, it still asked for my password.
[13:13] <enzotib> on the other hand, you already modified sudoers, so you should know how to do
[13:14] <glitchd> yes, i was just making sure i was rihgt
[13:14] <glitchd> right*
[13:14] <enzotib> glitchd, sudo tail -1 /etc/sudoers
[13:15] <glitchd> that command returns nothing
[13:15] <enzotib> glitchd, sudo tail -2 /etc/sudoers
[13:15] <glitchd> enzotib, $ sudo tail -2 /etc/sudoers
[13:15] <glitchd> glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd
[13:17] <glitchd> enzotib, should the spaces between words, but tabs instead?
[13:17] <enzotib> no, I don't think
[13:17] <glitchd> ok
[13:18] <enzotib> glitchd, you have visudo still open or, you closed it?
[13:18] <glitchd> its been closed
[13:19] <enzotib> no ideas
[13:20] <glitchd> dam.
[13:20] <glitchd> thank you anyways
[13:23] <enzotib> glitchd, when you try to run upd, visudo was closed?
[13:23] <glitchd> yes it was closed
[13:24] <glitchd> i closed visudo, then opened another terminal windows and tried upd and it asked for my password
[13:28] <enzotib> glitchd, I should confirm that it works here, so the working of sudo/sudoers is the same in 18.04, there should be something other that we make wrong
[13:29] <glitchd> enzotib, hmmm...
[13:30] <glitchd> enzotib, could it be the permissions of the file? this is the output of "ls -la /usr/bin/upd"
[13:30] <glitchd> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 80 Sep 30 07:55 /usr/bin/upd
[13:31] <enzotib> wow, 755 is more than enough
[13:31] <glitchd> so maybe i should change it?
[13:31] <enzotib> try
[13:31] <glitchd> ls -la /usr/bin/upd
[13:31] <glitchd> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 80 Sep 30 07:55 /usr/bin/upd
[13:32] <glitchd> still asking for password
[13:33] <enzotib> glitchd, your username on the system is exactly glitchd ?
[13:33] <glitchd> yes
[13:34] <glitchd> users
[13:34] <glitchd> glitchd
[13:35] <glitchd> this is frustrating.
[13:35] <htafdwes> how do I set a static route via device in netplan?
[13:35] <htafdwes> like ip route add 2000:ff:ff::1 dev br0
[13:36] <enzotib> glitchd, what's the exact content of upd?
[13:36] <glitchd> enzotib,  cat /usr/bin/upd
[13:36] <glitchd> #!/bin/bash
[13:36] <glitchd> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade && sudo apt autoremove && sync
[13:37] <enzotib> glitchd, and how you launch upd, with or without sudo?
[13:38] <glitchd> without
[13:38] <enzotib> no, I don't think it should work this way, you should remove every sudo from the content of upd and launch it with sudo upd
[13:39] <glitchd> thats odd, i had it this was exactly in my 16.04 install and it worked perfectly
[13:39] <glitchd> *this way
[13:41] <enzotib> glitchd, so you don't run upd with sudo, so why to put upd in sudoers?
[13:42] <glitchd> i didnt want to have to type sudo before the command, thats why i put it in the script.
[13:42] <glitchd> it worked like that in my 16.04 install
[13:42] <glitchd> all i had to type was "upd" and it ran "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" without asking for my password
[13:43] <ylel9> how can i install version 18.04
[13:43] <ylel9> in kubuntu
[13:43] <enzotib> glitchd, so you need to put apt in sudoers, not upd
[13:44] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:44] <ylel9> have come one uptade i dont know how can i do
[13:45] <glitchd> enzotib, that makes no sense to me. i didnt have to do that in my previous install. what changed between the 2 versions?
[13:46] <enzotib> glitchd, don't know, but it make sense, because sudoers check if he should ask the password when you run an executable with sudo, and you DON'T run upd with sudo, so there is no need to put it in sudoers, it has always worked this way
[13:47] <glitchd> again, that makes no sense. this worked exactly in 16.04.
[13:47] <glitchd> i have my sudoers file from 16.04 still
[13:47] <enzotib> glitchd, probably you put the setuid mode on the executable in 6.04
[13:47] <glitchd> enzotib, i dont remember doing anything else besides what i have done already
[13:48] <glitchd> enzotib, i made the script, put the line in the sudoers file, and it just worked.
[13:48] <enzotib> glitchd, OK, I don't know, soory
[13:49] <glitchd> enzotib, thank you for all your help.
[13:50] <R13ose> Hi BluesKaj
[13:50] <enzotib> glitchd, if you want to try, run sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/upd
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Hi R13ose
[13:50] <R13ose> BluesKaj: what's new?
[13:51] <BluesKaj> R13ose: not much, morning coffee as usual  :-)
[13:53] <mra90> If I have a DSP firmware which communicates with HOST via IPC how each of them know where to send and look for message?
[13:57] <R13ose> My wifi is not connecting all the time and have to use wired for the most part.  Some people think this is because of old chip and due to interference from neighbours. Yet, using this laptop elsewhere does have a hard time getting wifi.  What should I do to fix this?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> r1 cahnge the wifi channel in your router from ch6 to something 1 orr 11, but that depends on you location/countrys wifi protocol...whatever the default wifi ch is should be avoided if possible due to most wifi users stick witht defaukt channel it can become very crowded, hence intereference from the neighbours
[14:03] <BluesKaj> R13ose: ^
[14:03] <Axy> Hello channel
[14:04] <Axy> When I run my chmod +x 'ed hello.sh file, I get "command not found"
[14:04] <Axy> but when I do "bash hello.sh" it runs
[14:04] <Axy> (it just echoes hello world actually)
[14:04] <Axy> What can be the cause of this ?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> R13ose:  s'cuse the poor punctuation
[14:06] <R13ose> BluesKaj: even if this is happening elsewhere too with this machine?
[14:07] <BluesKaj> R13ose:  as i said most users don't relalize this can be a problem, especially windows users in your area
[14:07] <BluesKaj> or anywhere
[14:08] <R13ose> BluesKaj: yes but works with every other machine and device in the house.
[14:08] <SysGhost> Axy: is it named 'ed Hello.sh', or just hello.sh?
[14:09] <SysGhost> if the latter, it should be "chmod +x hello.sh"
[14:09] <BluesKaj> it's usually one of the first things toi try ...as for other devcices they might have less interference due to the location in the house, R13ose
[14:09] <SysGhost> and then you'd run it with current path: prefix, if the path isn't part of $PATH: ./hello.sh
[14:13] <lunorian> What file system does Ubuntu 18.10 use by default? I see in disks LVM/LUKS
[14:13] <lunorian> What about the actual FS
[14:14] <lunorian> Is ext3/4 being used under that?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> ext4
[14:15] <lunorian> thanks
[14:15] <lunorian> The Xorg-server issue I talked about with the crashing last night, Wayland doesn't have that issue.
[14:15] <lunorian> Using Wayland for now :)
[14:17] <lunorian> maybe make Wayland the default ;)
[14:19] <flips> Which log can I see details on why wayland dies upon login (there was a bit in /var/log/lightdm/something, but not much) Maybe I need to add a debug or verbose flag to something?
[14:20] <flips> Axy: ./hello.sh, as SysGhost mentioned :)
[14:23] <R13ose> I can't connect to wired connection
[14:26] <Axy> OH thanks!!!! flips
[14:26] <Axy> and SysGhost
[14:26] <Axy> !!
[14:26] <Axy> Ok here is another question
[14:26] <Axy> I have this line fps=$(echo "${vstreaminfo}" | grep -Po '[0-9]+(?=\s+fps)')
[14:27] <Axy> this is supposed to give me the fps of a gif file, this is from the mid section of a longer .sh
[14:27] <Axy> now the problem is - some .gif files does not have a fps value so this variable is undefined (I believe)
[14:27] <Axy> I don't know what i becomes when -technically- there is no fps value in the gif file
[14:27] <Axy> the process just stops when I use this with a gif fi,le without a set fps
[14:28] <Axy> so what I like to do is to set this to 1 when there is no value provided
[14:28] <Axy> fps=$(echo "${vstreaminfo}" | grep -Po '[0-9]+(?=\s+fps)') || 1
[14:28] <BluesKaj> R13ose:  no ethernet cable?
[14:28] <Axy> this is how I would do it in javascript way but it does not work obviously :)
[14:28] <Axy> I don't know much about shell scripting so if anyone can give me a hand with this I'd be very pleased
[14:29] <enzotib> Axy if [ -z "$fps" ]; then (the string is null, do something); fi
[14:30] <Axy> enzotib, checking now!
[14:31] <flips> Axy: or one could use ${fps:-"some value"} to use "some value" instead, or := if you want to use "some value" and assign it to $fps
[14:31] <flips> (if you use :-  it will leave fps unset, if it's not set, := will set it)
[14:32] <Axy> https://hastebin.com/qirapotuxu.bash cc flips enzotib
[14:32] <Axy> still not right obviously
[14:32] <Axy> I'll have to learn bash scripting at some point
[14:33] <Axy> I started to need this often with ffmpeg stuff
[14:33] <enzotib> Axy, you missed the "then" keyword
[14:33] <Axy> https://hastebin.com/dufazeyemi.bash this still doens not echo anything enzotib
[14:34] <Axy> I only get ${vstreaminfo} echoed
[14:34] <enzotib> Axy, you're still missing the "then" keyword: if [ condition]; then
[14:35] <R13ose> BluesKaj: working now.  As for your wifi idea, I tried that last time I asked in here, months ago and didn't help.
[14:35] <Axy> https://hastebin.com/bazateduba.bash enzotib ?
[14:36] <enzotib> Axy, the semicolon should go before the then
[14:37] <lunorian> anyone else here had a lot of issues with the signal desktop snap?
[14:37] <lunorian> It won't launch for me
[14:37] <Axy> https://hastebin.com/qaqatapoza.bash enzotib --- this finally?
[14:38] <R13ose> lunorian: if you can Pastebin the errors that would be good
[14:38] <lunorian> I ended up switching to Debian package and removing the snap
[14:38] <lunorian> if there's still a way to get the errors I'll submit them
[14:38] <lunorian> but it just silently failed
[14:38] <Axy> What I realize is that it does not echo anything
[14:38] <lunorian> so not sure if anything would of been logged
[14:39] <Axy> I mean, after echo ${fps} now I have echo "whatever" and the code never echoes that as well
[14:39] <Axy> (with or without the if section we just added)
[14:39] <Axy> so I believe something else is wrong here
[14:39] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: when or how long ago in hours/minutes did the wifi stop  working?
[14:42] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: has been working on and off for awhile.  Not hours but I think a year if not months for sure.
[14:42] <R13ose> lunorian: not using Ubuntu?
[14:42] <lunorian> I'm using Ubuntu 18.10
[14:43] <lunorian> I switched to the Debian (.deb) package for Signal
[14:43] <lunorian> So it doesn't have the launch issue
[14:46] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: open terminal> sudo apt install inxi
[14:46] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: let me know when done
[14:48] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: done
[14:49] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: in terminal>   inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[14:49] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[14:51] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/ubnf
[14:51] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: in terminal>   journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=SUPPLICANT|nc termbin.com 9999
[14:51] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[14:54] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/6667f
[14:58] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: the most recent disconnect i see is from August 29 from 'RajasKingdom'
[14:58] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: Aug 29 12:34:36 shawn-Aspire-V5-572 NetworkManager[733]: <warn>  [1535560476.8968] sup-iface[0x563e86814ba0,wlp3s0]: connection disconnected (reason -3)
[14:59] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: that is correct.  As I said this has been working on and off.  This never fully works totally that is why I am on wired now.
[14:59] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: so maybe you've given up using wifi for a while and have been hard wiring with a ethernet cable
[14:59] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: I understand
[15:00] <SomeT> I am runing ubuntu in virtual box
[15:00] <SomeT> whenever I resize a window
[15:00] <SomeT> the whole system goes slow
[15:00] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: yes but sometimes the RajasKingdom doesn't even show up
[15:00] <SomeT> I have enabled 3d accellation in virtual box settings
[15:00] <SomeT> how can I fix this?
[15:02] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: in terminal>   journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=WIFI|grep arn|nc termbin.com 9999
[15:02] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[15:05] <Axy> What's the difference between grep -P and grep -Po
[15:05] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/l1bw
[15:07] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: hmm taking too long to associate
[15:07] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: Sep 30 10:27:48 shawn-Aspire-V5-572 NetworkManager[712]: <warn>  [1538317668.0027] device (wlp3s0): Activation: failed for connection 'RajasKingdom'
[15:07] <rnmhdn> my system has become sooo slow and laggy since yesterday
[15:07] <rnmhdn> the cpu usage and ram usage seem fine
[15:07] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: Sep 30 10:34:25 shawn-Aspire-V5-572 NetworkManager[719]: <warn>  [1538318065.0018] device (wlp3s0): Activation: (wifi) association took too long, failing activation
[15:09] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: dis associate / forget this RajasKingdom wireless network, then attempt to (re) associate with it next time you have the opportunity to
[15:11] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: I deleted that network and disconnected and reconnected to wireless but see no wireless connections showing up
[15:12] <R13ose> Now I see it
[15:13] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: didn't connect and now disappeared.  Should I reconnect to wired?
[15:13] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: yes reconnect to wired
[15:14] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: in terminal>   journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=WIFI|nc termbin.com 9999
[15:18] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/jhjo
[15:21] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: in terminal>   journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=SUPPLICANT|nc termbin.com 9999
[15:22] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: info got cut off at Sept 16th...it was too much for termbin to handle hahaha
[15:24] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/vh32x
[15:25] <rnmhdn> any idea how I should proceed?
[15:26] <jcdutton> rnmhdn, what does top say?  is it using any swap?
[15:27] <jcdutton> rnmhdn, is the disk nearly full?
[15:27] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: iw reg get|nc termbin.com 9999
[15:28] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/d92k
[15:30] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: sudo iw reg set US
[15:31] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: I am in Canada
[15:31] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: then try to connect using wifi and stay on wifi and see if you have further issues
[15:31] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: Canada is fine
[15:31] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: proceed
[15:34] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: I tried twice to connect and didn't work.  Now wifi network disappeared.  I will go on wired.
[15:34] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: okay that is fine
[15:35] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: anything else to try?
[15:36] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: info is cut off before todays date so i can't see whats going on presently from the termbins above, I may need you to sort out the info to todays date and only pastebin the info for our experimentation today or better yet over the last 30 minutes or so
[15:37] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: would require some scrolling and copy paste work for you
[15:37] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: can you do that for me?
[15:37] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: I can try
[15:38] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: in terminal>   journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=SUPPLICANT|less
[15:38] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: oldest stuff appears first at the top, you'll need to scroll using arrows to the bottom
[15:39] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: might be fairly long scroll
[15:39] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: just get to today
[15:39] <jcdutton> RoscoePColtrane, how about journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=SUPPLICANT|tail -1000
[15:40] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: make a pastebin/termbin of the stuff from today
[15:41] <RoscoePColtrane> jcdutton: yeah that would work...i was gonna take a minute to make coffee though
[15:43] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/wx42
[15:43] <R13ose> Thanks jcdutton
[15:48] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: in terminal>   journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=WIFI  don't forget to add the tail 1000 part
[15:51] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: http://termbin.com/2dt1
[15:52] <RoscoePColtrane> Sep 30 11:34:05 shawn-Aspire-V5-572 NetworkManager[719]: <warn>  [1538321645.0003] device (wlp3s0): Activation: (wifi) association took too long, failing activation
[15:53] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: does association take too long with other wireless networks or only RajaKindom?
[15:53] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: there is no other wireless network I can connect to around here to know.
[15:54] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: are there others you can connect to to test, or can you create a hotspot using your mobile smart phone
[15:54] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: let me try hotspot
[15:55] <SomeT> really simple question, if I am running a droplet on digital ocean but terminal only ubuntu, do I need more than 1 GB of ram where usually you need 4 GB of ram I believe to run ubuntu?
[15:59] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: hotspot worked and connected.  Now on wired.
[16:02] <SomeT> anyone?
[16:02] <SomeT> pls help
[16:02] <avu> SomeT: 1GB RAM is more than enough for a small server serving some webpages for example
[16:03] <avu> SomeT: if it's really enough for you depends on your specific workload
[16:03] <SomeT> nah its just to run one application
[16:03] <SomeT> https://wtfutil.com/
[16:03] <avu> SomeT: the OS on its own is fine with less even, the 4GB you've read about are for a desktop system
[16:03] <SomeT> this
[16:04] <SomeT> anyway thanks
[16:04] <SomeT> I think I got my answer boss
[16:04] <nikolam> Hi, anyone using OpenCL on Nvidia on Ubuntu (9800GT here). For example i weren't able to turn on OpenCL support inside LibreOffice, etc
[16:04] <nikolam> And some test app compained like, OpenCL core not loaded or something
[16:06] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: ok so would you agree the symptom is isolated to "RajaKindom"...if yes...do you have physical access to RajaKindom access point/ router?
[16:06] <adrian_1908> nikolam: Are you using proprietary drivers? If not, I'd try that.
[16:08] <nikolam> adrian_1908, what's th point usign other drivers, then those provided inside Ubuntu, what possibly speed one should expect to get instead using Nvidia drivers on Nvidia card. Yes, I suppose they are proprietary..
[16:09] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: yes but could this be linked to others that haven't been tested.  I do have access to access point/router.
[16:10] <adrian_1908> nikolam: I'm talking about Nvidia drivers vs Nouveau, the former are more likely to support extended features like OpenCL.
[16:10] <nikolam> I think I have nvidia drivers installed.
[16:11] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: power off RajaKindom access point/router for 10 seconds...then plug it back in and try to connect
[16:11] <nikolam> nvidia-340
[16:12] <nikolam> nvidia-opencl-icd-340 also installed.
[16:12] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: the hotspot equals (others that have not been tested) in this circumstance, isolating the symptom to RajaKingdom
[16:19] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: done.  I don't see the wifi network showing up.
[16:20] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: give it a bit, it could still be initializing
[16:23] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: how long?
[16:25] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: should be up by now...use the hotspot to narrow it down to RajaKingdom
[16:26] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: does hotspot show up?
[16:27] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: still not showing up.  As far as I know, the wireless networks should show up automatically and isn't.  All I see under the available connections is hotspot.
[16:28] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: connect to hotspot then back to wired
[16:28] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: Then check to see if RajaKindom shows on the smartphone
[16:30] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: does Rajakindom appear for the smart phone...if not...RajaKindom isn't active after a reboot of router
[16:30] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: it is the wifi network I am on now on my phone.
[16:37] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: anything else to do?  If not, I will leave as is and come back at a later time to try and fix.  Thanks for the help.
[16:39] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: you can connect to the hotspot without issue
[16:39] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: and consistently connect to the hotspot
[16:41] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: if you have less than desirable/optimal wireless network infrastructure configuration..Ubuntu isn't going to address that
[16:42] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: you have no other wireless networks to compare to/with besides the hotspot which from the ubuntu perspective functions as expected or designed
[16:43] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: maybe if you had a neighbor with wifi or a public wifi you could travel to, to test a second known good wifi infrastructure
[16:43] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: I do not
[16:44] <moosenonny10> R13ose: What's going on?
[16:46] <R13ose> moosenonny10: wifi network not showing up or does and disappears
[16:46] <moosenonny10> R13ose: and was it the hotspot from your phone?
[16:47] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: it's important you inform others that its only 1 wifi network that "doesn't show up"...not a "global" problem
[16:47] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: it's misleading to pass it off as generically "all wifi networks don't show up" because we know that's not true, proof being the hotspot
[16:48] <moosenonny10> RoscoePColtrane: I actually did understand what he meant
[16:48] <moosenonny10> (or she)
[16:48] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: right, I will do that until I have more evidence this is a wider problem.
[16:48] <R13ose> moosenonny10: this is router wifi not hotspot.
[16:49] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: Mcdonalds and starbucks in the usa have free wifi...maybe it's the same in Canada...make you can go there with your Acer laptop
[16:49] <moosenonny10> R13ose: Oh, I see
[16:49] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: right but moving this laptop is a pain for various reasons.
[16:51] <moosenonny10> R13ose: You could create a hotspot using your phone and see if your laptop can connect to that
[16:51] <RoscoePColtrane> yeah we know it works with a "known good" wifi from hotspot...tested and confirmed already
[16:52] <RoscoePColtrane> it's isolated to RajaKingdom SSID
[16:52] <RoscoePColtrane> from testing it's reasonable to expect other SSID's would function as designed or expected
[16:52] <moosenonny10> oh ok
[16:53] <moosenonny10> my bad
[16:53] <RoscoePColtrane> no worries
[16:53] <R13ose> Yet, testing is needed to know 100% for sure.
[16:53] <RoscoePColtrane> testing other wifi infrastructure yes...
[16:54] <RoscoePColtrane> but you can't take the laptop out the house so unless you got friends with spare routers you can borrow..it's best you just hardwire with a cable...you can't move that laptop anyway
[16:55] <R13ose> I can move the laptop, I just feel this is hard.
[16:56] <RoscoePColtrane> as long as you understand that you cannot address a infrastructure problem from ubuntu
[16:56] <R13ose> I know.
[16:58] <R13ose> If I could close the laptop, I could take this anywhere and test this out.
[17:02] <moosenonny10> oh
[17:02] <moosenonny10> that explains things
[17:02] <moosenonny10> that is very inconvenient
[17:18] <R13ose> Yep.  Need someway to fix this.
[17:18] <Dbugger> When I try to update my Gnome Extensions I get an error every time. Does anybody know why could this be?
[17:26] <moosenonny10> Dbugger: what error?
[17:27] <Dbugger> moosenonny10, I am using the browser extension, so I am not sure how to see any logs on that
[17:27] <Dbugger> https://paste.pics/97d76b619278a0a5d4cfcf26f3da5518
[17:27] <moosenonny10> Oh, that
[17:27] <moosenonny10> Dbugger: you can't update system extensions from the website
[17:28] <Dbugger> moosenonny10, no? On my other computer works...
[17:28] <Dbugger> what would be the point of the extension then?
[17:29] <Dbugger> moosenonny10, how would you recommend me to update the extensions?
[17:29] <moosenonny10> I can't remember :(
[17:29] <moosenonny10> I had this problem but I fixed it somehow
[17:30] <Dbugger> but it should be possible to do it from the website, no?
[17:30] <Dbugger> after all, i installed them from there
[17:31] <moosenonny10> No, the one in the picture was preinstalled
[17:31] <Dbugger> moosenonny10, yeah, but I have more
[17:32] <Dbugger> Here is my post, more complete, on this issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1055028/gnome-extensions-give-me-error-when-updating
[17:32] <R13ose> RoscoePColtrane: thanks for the help
[17:33] <moosenonny10> Dbugger: not all of those were preinstalled extensions
[17:33] <moosenonny10> My bad
[17:34] <Dbugger> there's gotta be something in the system that is preventing from doing these updates, no?
[17:34] <moosenonny10> Yeah
[17:34] <Dbugger> I guess I can start a bounty on my question
[17:35] <moosenonny10> The directory they're stored in is `~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions` iirc
[17:35] <moosenonny10> You could check permissions there ig
[17:36] <Dbugger> the directories there are rwxrwxr-x and the files inside are mostly rw-rw-r--
[17:36] <Dbugger> ..
[17:36] <moosenonny10> Sounds fine
[17:36] <Dbugger> you think maybe I should try deleting one of them, and see if the re-install?
[17:37] <moosenonny10> Also make sure they're compatible with your version of gnome-shell
[17:37] <Dbugger> how can I find that out?
[17:37] <moosenonny10> I think if you go to the extensions website and click on the extension it will tell you.
[17:38] <Dbugger> I dont see any warning... so I take it that it is compatible
[17:39] <Dbugger> installing seems to work... maybe I should just re-install. But since it happens with ALL of them, I thought there might be an underlaying reasong
[17:40] <RoscoePColtrane> R13ose: no prob
[17:43] <moosenonny10> Dbugger: Yeah, there probably should be
[17:43] <moosenonny10> But who knows
[17:43] <moosenonny10> It's pretty hard to debug
[17:44]  * moosenonny10 realizes that he left
[17:47] <Dbugger> not sure what I did but it angered my machine to a reboot =P
[18:00] <SomeT> why can't I execute this binary: https://gyazo.com/ed7462fce277376ef2dd61595e2fdc9a it is for the program here: https://wtfutil.com/getting_started/ additionally see for chmods: https://gyazo.com/be1ca072c767cf84ae31a27cef53b06a
[18:00] <SomeT> I do ./wtf and get that error btw
[18:11] <tomreyn> SomeT: you should seek support on this non ubuntu packaged software form its developers.
[18:13] <SomeT> :'(
[18:14] <ecormier> SomeT: you're running it as root... sounds scary
[18:15] <ecormier> make sure /root/.config/ exists ... that command should have been mkdir -p ....
[18:16] <ecormier> and stop running it as root
[18:16] <ecormier> !
[18:16] <ecormier> ~/.config will exist
[18:17] <SomeT> I only just this server up is why
[18:17] <SomeT> I will sort that later
[18:17] <SomeT> for now its vital I just get this one app running
[18:17] <ecormier> like I said, it's not meant to be run as root, create a user and run it
[18:18] <SomeT> root exists
[18:18] <SomeT> but way above this folder
[18:18] <SomeT> ah
[18:18] <SomeT> I get what you mean
[18:18]  * ecormier facepalms
[18:18] <SomeT> how can I see a list of all current users?
[18:18] <SomeT> thing is this is a digitalocean snapshot
[18:19] <SomeT> so before creating another user need to check which current users are already there
[18:19] <ecormier> SomeT: google man
[18:19] <gpunk> lol
[18:21] <SomeT> I dont use google
[18:21] <SomeT> it banned in my country
[18:21] <qwebirc61687> Hello all. I am a long-time linux user (1998-99 ?) and use ubuntu LTS for a ~decade now. I am using LTS versions since ~2010, and upgraded to 1804 at the same time I changed my PC after 9+ years of 0-issues. A lot has changed and I am a bit lost to diagnose the X11 boot issue when using Nvidia drivers
[18:21] <ecormier> SomeT: lame excuse, pick any search engine
[18:22] <qwebirc61687> Point taken .I did use a lot of googling and so far have not reached a functional state nor anything super useful. I did find that I could configure Wayland vs X11, which I switched to X11.
[18:23] <ecormier> qwebirc61687: that message was not directed at you ... that was for SomeT
[18:23] <qwebirc61687> OK ^^. No pb anyway.
[18:23] <tomreyn> SomeT: getent passwd | cut -d: -f1 | sort
[18:24] <qwebirc61687> First question: I found X11 logs into ~user/.local/share/X11/Xorg.*.log
[18:24] <qwebirc61687> I don't know how this can be located there and not /var/log since my user is not yet logged in when X11 starts, but there is a single user, so maybe... However I could not find any error there
[18:25] <SomeT> I created a new user
[18:27] <SomeT> how do I check if its set to root or not?
[18:27] <ecormier> SomeT: if what is set to root?
[18:27] <ecormier> su <new user>, and then run wtf
[18:28] <ecormier> and ops, don't ban me, 'wtf' is the app he's trying to run
[18:28] <ecormier> not sure of the COC around here
[18:29] <SomeT> ok so I put wtf in default directory ~/ before, so now with this new user do I need to put it in home/username instead?
[18:30] <SomeT> doing ~/ brings up nothing :'(
[18:30] <SomeT> but I have an idea I think
[18:30] <ecormier> SomeT: I would put the program in /usr/local/bin
[18:30] <SomeT> thanks
[18:30] <ecormier> you run it from the new users home
[18:30] <tomreyn> qwebirc61687: if you run 'ps u' on the PID listed on the first line of ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.*.log you will notice that X is actually running as this user now.
[18:30] <SomeT> so not usr local bin
[18:30] <SomeT> home/username instead?
[18:30] <SomeT> or ~/
[18:30] <SomeT> define home pls
[18:31] <tomreyn> echo $HOME
[18:31] <ecormier> put the program wherever you like (/usr/local/bin/ is the traditional place) then login as the user you created and run 'wtf'
[18:32] <SomeT> thanks
[18:32] <ecormier> yw, bye :)
[18:32] <SomeT> bye?¬
[18:32] <SomeT> so soon
[18:32] <SomeT> dont go
[18:32] <SomeT> lol
[18:33] <qwebirc61687> anyone with some good knowledge of X11/nvidia on ubuntu 1804 ?
[18:34] <ecormier> qwebirc61687: sorry, I'm all intel over here
[18:35] <JIZHANHUANG> hello. what are the best alternatives to Adobe Acrobat for Ubuntu?
[18:35] <ecormier> JIZHANHUANG: I like evince
[18:35] <qwebirc61687> @ecormer: maybe at least how to diagnose a boot on X11 ? I can't even find a log with any relevant error...
[18:35] <qwebirc61687> can't find latest X11 log for example
[18:35] <qwebirc61687> where is it ?
[18:36] <qwebirc61687> used to be /var/log/X11
[18:36] <tomreyn> ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.*.log
[18:36] <tomreyn> also /var/log/syslog
[18:36] <qwebirc61687> surprisingly I find only old versions of that log. Could it be that it's back to Wayland somehow ?
[18:36] <qwebirc61687> ah, syslog
[18:36] <qwebirc61687> ok..
[18:37] <ecormier> JIZHANHUANG: or atril (for the gnome 2 variant)
[18:37] <qwebirc61687> syslog showing: gnome-shell: error: unable to lock: Lock was blocked by an application
[18:38] <SomeT> ok progress
[18:38] <JIZHANHUANG> thanks i am installing :)
[18:38] <SomeT> so now I get: -bash: ./wtf: Permission denied
[18:39] <SomeT> so is this a chmod issue or a user permission issue or both?
[18:39] <qwebirc61687> @SomeT: chmod +x path/to/wtf
[18:39] <SomeT> thanks
[18:39] <SomeT> I get no such file or directory lol
[18:39] <SomeT> do I have to put the full path in?
[18:39] <ecormier> SomeT: yes
[18:40] <qwebirc61687> need to play with with my daughter... I will continue later today on my issue I guess
[18:40] <SomeT> I still get permission denied
[18:40] <JIZHANHUANG> uh... ecormier could you recommmend an *editor* like Adobe Acrobat?
[18:40] <SomeT> -rw-rw-r--
[18:40] <SomeT> thats what its currently set as chmod wise
[18:41] <ecormier> JIZHANHUANG: pdftk .... there's no gui editor as far as I know
[18:41] <ecormier> SomeT: then your chmod didn't take
[18:41] <ecormier> there are no x's there
[18:42] <mouses> chmod ugo+x /path/to/whatever
[18:42] <SomeT> -rwxrwxr-x
[18:42] <mouses> there you go
[18:42] <SomeT> I fixed it by pointing it to the filename the executable
[18:42] <SomeT> https://gyazo.com/48ae362e0681b9bcdecd524d2df20020
[18:42] <SomeT> however now a new error lol
[18:43] <SomeT> I think its having trouble creating config files?
[18:43] <ecormier> SomeT: mkdir ~/.config
[18:43] <SomeT> above wtf?
[18:44] <ecormier> what?
[18:44] <SomeT> the error says
[18:44] <ecormier> the error says there is no directory /home/somet/.config  .... so make it
[18:44] <SomeT> `/home/somet/.config/wtf: no such file or directory
[18:45] <SomeT> ok that works
[18:45] <SomeT> thanks so much for your help!
[18:45] <ecormier> it's trying to create wtf folder in the non-existent .config folder
[18:46] <SomeT> is there a way to make .config unhidden?
[18:46] <SomeT> because when I try and access it via ftp in windows
[18:46] <SomeT> I cant see it at all
[18:46] <SomeT> it does not show on normal ls either
[18:46] <SomeT> but I can cd to it
[18:47] <ecormier> ls -al
[18:47] <mouses> SomeT: the -a flag in ls (all) will show ALL (including hidden) files
[18:47] <ecormier> your on your own for the windows ftp question
[18:47] <mouses> in windows you'll need to configure whatever FTP client you are using to show hidden files
[18:47] <mouses> also consider not using FTP
[18:47] <mouses> it's outdated, insecure, and generally a very bad idea
[18:47] <mouses> we have SSH now
[18:48] <ecormier> now lol
[18:48] <mouses> ecormier: hehehe :)
[18:48] <ecormier> scp/rsync are wonderful (and putty on windows, I hear)
[18:48] <SomeT> I am using SFTP
[18:49] <mouses> Oh, good :)
[18:49] <SomeT> I just said FTP out of laziness apologies lol
[18:49] <mouses> SomeT: Nevermind then.  Just making sure.
[18:49] <mouses> :-)
[18:49] <SomeT> need to set up ssh key on my server and all sorts still
[18:50] <SomeT> was trying to run ubuntu as a sub system, cygwin on windows, and virtual machine
[18:50] <SomeT> droplet on do seems best way via putty
[18:50] <SomeT> for a dual monitor setup, linux on one, windows on the other
[19:28] <lenny_lemon> any advice how can I download videos from udemy? ubuntu 16.04
[19:29] <mouses> lenny_lemon: Umm, that's all done in your browser, same way it would be under any OS
[19:30] <mouses> https://support.udemy.com/hc/en-us/articles/229231167-Downloading-Courses
[19:31] <mouses> the instructor must have enabled that for it to work.  If they have not, talk to the instructor as downloading it anyway would be piracy and this is not the place to discuss that.
[20:12] <Ploppz> the BitTorrent links here don't work :/ https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[20:18] <tonyt> if you are looking for linux isos get them from https://linuxtracker.org/
[20:18] <tonyt> if you are looking for linux isos torrents get them from https://linuxtracker.org/
[20:19] <Ben64> Ploppz: yes they do
[20:19] <rfm> Ploppz, those links are working fine for me, and the tracker's fine too (my seeds via transmission are running right along as we speak)
[20:20] <rfm> Ploppz, your problem must lie elsewhere
[20:22] <tomreyn> Ploppz: which link were you using exactly? how do you tell it doesn not work?
[20:24] <Ploppz> Sorry. I tried "Ubuntu 16.04.5 Desktop (64-bit)".  It's just forever loading
[20:24] <Ploppz> anyway ok, since they work for you then never mind
[20:25] <Ploppz> ok, turns out my VPN was the problem
[20:49] <ztychr> Has anyone had success installing the pokeone mmo on linux? tried wine, lutris with 32bit and 64bit
[21:08] <haroldv22> Hi, I have a problem with my Brisk menu in ubuntu mate 18.04
[21:11] <haroldv22> http://termbin.com/1wsb
[21:17] <haroldv22> somebody here ?
[21:43] <ph88> how can i get memtest86+ in grub ?
[21:43] <ph88> i already tried   sudo update-grub
[21:46] <haroldv22> Hi
[21:46] <ph88>  hai
[21:47] <haroldv22> I have a problem with my brisk-menu
[21:47] <Bashing-om> ph88: EFI system ? then mem-test has to be gotten as a 3rd party .
[21:47] <haroldv22> ph88, in ubuntu 18.04 I edited the menu manually and this crash
[21:49] <ph88> as second solution i put memtest86+ on usb stick but the usb stick doesn't show up in the boot menu
[21:52] <ph88> ok i boot in legacy mode now it finds the usb stick .. i guess thats fine for now
[21:53] <outoftime> How to move `/home` into enother partition without coping everything into partition?
[21:55] <ecormier> outoftime: impossible, if you want the contents of /home on another partition, you will need to copy
[21:57] <outoftime> ecormier: I just have almost enough space, there will be few MBs free...
[21:57] <ecormier> outoftime: why do you want to move /home on a different partition?
[21:58] <outoftime> ecormier: want to reinstall system, clear setup.
[21:58] <ecormier> and you do not have a backup?!?
[21:58] <ecormier> scary...
[22:00] <outoftime> ecormier: If I'll move my home, I'll be satistied. I'm scared to loose my keys I have already backed up.
[22:01] <ecormier> anyways, learn how to backup... trust me, you will lose stuff if you don't, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow... but someday
[22:08] <ph88> outoftime, clear as much space as you can then make small partition then move some stuff there, then resize partitions .. repeat until everything is moved  .. but i agree you are better off buying external HDD .. it's cheap
[22:08] <outoftime> ph88: thank you for an advice
[22:10] <outoftime> ecormier: I know, it happends sometimes. Working with what I have.
[22:30] <haroldv22> Hi
[22:32] <haroldv22> I have the same proble,
[22:32] <haroldv22> problem
[22:34] <Bashing-om> haroldv22: :) 1150 or so peeps in here .. many with issues .. now which of these many issues " I have the same problem" do you belong in ? :)
[22:35] <haroldv22> I have a problem with my brisk-menu in ubuntu 18.04
[22:35] <haroldv22> Bashing-om, I have a problem with my brisk-menu in ubuntu 18.04
[22:36] <Bashing-om> ha.. K ... i do not use. so await here for one who has that experience to respond :)
[22:37] <haroldv22> Bashing-om, ok thank you
[22:37] <hggdh> haroldv22: and you might want to be a tad more specific. "I have a problem on ..." does not help much
[22:38] <haroldv22> hggdh, the brisk-menu not appaers in my desktop
[22:46] <haroldv22> hggdh, I have this problem https://github.com/solus-project/brisk-menu/issues/109
[22:52] <hggdh> haroldv22: there are some bugs reported in LP about crashes in brisk-menu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/brisk-menu/+bugs
[22:53] <hggdh> haroldv22: but the upstream bug also lacks *any* detail on what might have gone wrong...
[23:08] <haroldv22> hggdh, I solved with this https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/mate-panel-is-crashing/11925/7 thanks