[11:31] <brainwash> reminds me of Lubuntu https://i.imgur.com/VR86Cat.png
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[17:33] <flocculant> brainwash: yes it is
[17:34] <flocculant> but - package testing is pretty much non-existent
[17:34] <flocculant> so *shrug*
[17:37] <brainwash> flocculant: can you link that test?
[17:38] <brainwash> a test case for sound events
[17:39] <flocculant> brainwash: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/Xfce/1575_Xfce4%20Appearance%20Settings
[17:40] <flocculant> but is it a bug with that or with xfce?
[17:46] <flocculant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual-tests/+filebug if you decide to file against testcase - please have the testcase # in the summary :)
[17:47] <brainwash> the test case would requite the user to perform several steps beforehand: install libcanberra-gtk-module, set GTK_MODULES="canberra-gtk-module", create sound files for window-minimized/-maximized, and finally relog
[17:47] <brainwash> libcanberra-pulse may be needed also
[17:47] <flocculant> well
[17:47] <brainwash> so, best to remove that test
[17:47] <flocculant> yea for sure 
[17:47] <flocculant> bug report it 
[17:48] <flocculant> afk for a while now 
[17:49] <flocculant> actually - rather than remove - make it optional part of the test, and add all ^^ to it for those who want to
[17:49] <brainwash> I was thinking that it may be cool to make sound events work out-of-the-box (if enabled by the user)
[17:49] <flocculant> then bluesabre and Unit193 are the people to talk to :D
[17:50] <brainwash> this would not include sounds for minimizing/maximizing windows though :)
[17:50] <brainwash> don't need those
[17:50] <flocculant> that would be a short way to get it all turned off here :D
[17:50] <brainwash> right. let's see if bluesabre likes that idea
[17:51] <flocculant> blueprint for dippy doofus cycle
[20:39] <ochosi> bluesabre: if you want me to fix the margin issue in the windowbuttons you gotta pull that patch of mine for the panel into xubuntu ;)
[21:36] <bluesabre> brainwash, flocculant, not opposed until I know how annoying it might be
[21:36] <bluesabre> ochosi, alrighty, cool
[21:38] <brainwash> bluesabre: it wouldn't be unless you enable it in the settings. the idea is to make the setting work without having the user to install additional packages or setting up env vars.
[21:39] <bluesabre> brainwash: gotcha. That seems fair.
[21:39] <brainwash> bluesabre: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-session/+bug/1321445/comments/21
[21:39] <brainwash> minus the extra sounds
[21:41] <brainwash> in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/56xubuntu-session there could be a check for libcanberra
[21:42] <brainwash> if present, set GTK_MODULES
[22:13] <ochosi> bluesabre: how motivated are you to run the FFE with me for xfce4-settings for cosmic? (on a scale of 0..10)
[23:02] <bluesabre> ochosi: I'm a bit hesitant right now, with just over 2 weeks from the release