[00:06] <Wafficus> I did the ssh steps, and added my key to Phab, and am still getting the "Please make sure you have the correct access rights" error
[00:09] <Wafficus> now I'm trying that quiltrc section, and it says there's no such file or directory
[00:09] <wxl> what do you mean?
[00:10] <Wafficus> I'm assuming the quiltrc section means, click the link, and look under the Patches section
[00:10] <wxl> so add that section to $HOME/.quitrc
[00:10] <wxl> err quilt
[00:10] <Wafficus> yeah it doesn't exist though
[00:11] <Wafficus> it says quilt is installed too
[00:11] <Wafficus> weird
[00:11] <wxl> that doesn't mean you'll have it
[00:11] <wxl> you have to create it
[00:11] <Wafficus> oh
[00:11] <Wafficus> its in the my etc folder
[00:12] <Wafficus> quilt.quiltrc
[00:12] <wxl> don't bother with that
[00:12] <wxl> just copy and paste the bit from the link into $HOME/.quiltrc
[00:12] <Wafficus> I made a directory called .quiltrc
[00:13] <Wafficus> in home like requested
[00:13] <wxl> no
[00:13] <Wafficus> its a file right?
[00:13] <wxl> a file $HOME/.quiltrc
[00:13] <Wafficus> gotcha
[00:13] <Wafficus> thanks
[00:16] <Wafficus> I tried that arc command, and i'm getting an error:
[00:16] <Wafficus> ARC: Cannot mix E and E
[00:16] <Wafficus> UNIX: NO such file or directory
[00:16] <Wafficus> nevermind
[00:17] <Wafficus> I skipped that installing arcanist step
[00:17] <Wafficus> lemme look into that first
[00:17] <Wafficus> where should I install Arcanist?
[00:17] <Wafficus> like in bin?
[00:18] <wxl> the instructions basically tell you to put it wherever you want
[00:18] <wxl> and that's reasonable
[00:19] <Wafficus> where are typically programs stored in lubuntu
[00:19] <Wafficus> ok cool
[00:19] <Wafficus> I assumed bin but just wanted to confirm
[00:19] <Wafficus> thanks
[00:19] <wxl> i'd probably put it in $HOME/bin personally
[00:20] <Wafficus> do I add that path variable to the Bash terminal's rc file?
[00:20] <Wafficus> *for arc?
[00:21] <wxl> you should do that so you don't have to run it again next time but for the purposes of doing the work where you're at, you can just run the export PATH
[00:21] <Wafficus> well its fine, i'd rather define an alias type idea
[00:21] <Wafficus> or rather the path variable
[00:21] <Wafficus> its in the rc file for bash right?
[00:22] <wxl> typically $HOME/.bashrc
[00:22] <wxl> unless you zsh XD
[00:22] <Wafficus> ok I added export PATH="$PATH:/somewhere/arcanist/bin/"
[00:22] <Wafficus> at the end of the .bashrc file in $HOME
[00:23] <wxl> you actually have a /somewhere?
[00:23] <Wafficus> nah I made a directory called arcanist
[00:23] <Wafficus> oh damn
[00:23] <Wafficus> you're right haha
[00:23] <wxl> right :)
[00:23] <Wafficus> just copied and pasted that
[00:23] <Wafficus> thanks for noticing
[00:23] <Wafficus> dang
[00:27] <Wafficus> i'll be back in a sec
[00:28] <Wafficus> hey back
[00:28] <Wafficus> so I exited all terminals just to make sure that path variable thing works
[00:28] <Wafficus> and apparently i'm getting the same error
[00:28] <Wafficus> ARC: Cannot mix E and T
[00:28] <Wafficus> UNIX: No such file or directory
[00:32] <Wafficus> where should I set the phabricator.url URL to be?
[00:32] <Wafficus> like my Phab account's main page, or the Lubuntu's uri for that bug?
[00:35] <Wafficus> I changed the URL in the .arcconfig file to be: 
[00:35] <Wafficus> https://phab.lubuntu.me/
[00:35] <Wafficus> it still gave me that UNIX error
[00:36] <Wafficus> I skipped to the install-certificate part, but its just listing all the options I can do
[00:43] <Wafficus> i'll try that portion of the guide tomorrow I guess
[00:46] <wxl> i have no idea what that E and T business is
 I'm willing to bet .bashrc is at fault.
 @wxl did you want me to try Trojita again?
[02:38] <wxl> @kc2bez sure
[02:58] <lyorian> tsimonq2: what time did you set the cronjob to build the manual to?
 @lyorian [<lyorian> tsimonq2: what time did you set the cronjob to build the manual to?], Hourly
 Every hour at the top of the hour
[02:59] <lyorian> oh wow
[03:06] <wxl> @tsimonq2: any reason why we don't create a git hook to trigger the rebuild rather than doing it periodically?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: any reason why we don't create a git hook to trigger the rebuil …], No server side code for it
[03:07] <wxl> huh?
 ...you can't just magically POST to a cronjob. :P
[03:08] <Wafficus> hey guys can anyone help me with that issue regarding phabricator?
 Or local scripts.
[03:08] <Wafficus> if so ill hop on my laptop
[03:09] <wxl> not a cronjob dum dum
[03:10] <wxl> it's certainly possible to get it to run a script on a remote server
 @wxl [<wxl> not a cronjob dum dum], Then fix it, boss :)
[03:10] <wxl> Wafficus: what does `which arc` say?
[03:11] <Wafficus> booting into it now
[03:12] <Wafficus> be back
[03:13] <Wafficus> back
[03:16] <Wafficus> its saying No repository "PACKAGE" exists
[03:16] <Wafficus> git clone ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/PACKAGE.git
[03:17] <Wafficus> ^ for that command
[03:17] <wxl> um
[03:17] <wxl> read the line above the block section
[03:17] <Wafficus> oh wait sorry hold on
[03:17] <Wafficus> you asked about the arc section
[03:17] <Wafficus> one sec
[03:17] <Wafficus> lemme try that
[03:17] <Wafficus> tried:
[03:17] <Wafficus> arc set-config phabricator.uri "https://phab.lubuntu.me/"
[03:18] <Wafficus> it stating:
[03:18] <Wafficus> ARC: Cannot mix E and T
[03:18] <Wafficus> UNIX: No such file or directory
[03:18] <wxl> and what does `which arc` say?
[03:18] <Wafficus> I have it on the PATH variable as well in my bashrc
[03:18] <Wafficus> it says:
[03:18] <Wafficus> /usr/bin/arc
[03:19] <wxl> and what does `echo $PATH` say?
[03:19] <Wafficus> arc set-config phabricator.uri "https://phab.lubuntu.me/"
[03:19] <Wafficus> one sec
[03:19] <Wafficus> wrong command
[03:19] <Wafficus> /home/sbpc/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin:/home/sbpc/bin/arcanist/arcanist/bin/
[03:20] <wxl> since /usr/bin is first, that's your problem
[03:21] <wxl> you should change to `export PATH="/home/sbpc/bin/arcanist/arcanist/bin/:$PATH"`
[03:22] <wxl> you're competing, likely, with arc the archive utility
[03:22] <wxl> !info arc
[03:23] <wxl> that said, i don't know why you HAVE it XD
[03:23] <wxl> @TheWendyPower wnt to take care of that changelog?
[03:31] <wxl> why do we use the manual on launchpad and not on phab?
[03:32] <wxl> that might be kind of problematic
[03:32] <Wafficus> changed it to that export statement you just said
[03:33] <Wafficus> I'm still getting the ARC and UNIX error with:
[03:33] <Wafficus> arc set-config phabricator.uri "https://phab.lubuntu.me/"
[03:34] <Wafficus> https://pastebin.com/4dYdppBQ
[03:34] <Wafficus> that's my .bashrc file
[03:34] <wxl> if you still get /usr/bin/arc from `which arc` my guess is you put it in .bashrc but didn't (A) run the export command in your terminal (B) source .bashrc or (C) open a new terminal
[03:34] <wxl> oh i see the problem
[03:34] <wxl> you realize that $PATH means 'insert the value of the PATH variable here' right?
[03:35] <Wafficus> like the PWD of the PATH variable?
[03:35] <Wafficus> didn't really know
[03:35] <wxl> so you're setting PATH to the existing path + your arcanist path + the existing path
[03:35] <wxl> $something is a variable
[03:35] <wxl> if you do:
[03:35] <Wafficus> true, that much I remember from pHP
[03:35] <wxl> something=this
[03:35] <Wafficus> *php
[03:35] <wxl> echo $something → this
[03:36] <wxl> if you do:
[03:36] <wxl> something="$something:that"
[03:36] <wxl> echo $something → this:that
[03:36] <wxl> if you do:
[03:36] <wxl> something="$something:that:$something"
[03:36] <wxl> echo $something → this:that:this
[03:37] <wxl> what we're trying to do is to end up with "that:this"
[03:37] <wxl> instead you have "this:that:this"
[03:37] <wxl>  export PATH="$PATH:/home/sbpc/bin/arcanist/arcanist/bin/:$PATH"
[03:37] <wxl> should be
[03:37] <Wafficus> yeah I see your reasoning
[03:37] <wxl>  export PATH="/home/sbpc/bin/arcanist/arcanist/bin/:$PATH"
[03:38] <wxl> when looking for an executable is searches the PATH from the beginning. the first instance wins
[03:38] <wxl> if $PATH is before your special path, inevitably $PATH will win where a conflict exists
[03:38] <wxl> that said, given the other arc, this is an error on their part
[03:38] <Wafficus> I see your point
[03:38] <Wafficus> $PATH is the ultimate location its looking for
[03:39] <Wafficus> like you give it the starting path
[03:39] <Wafficus> and it should look for an .exe there
[03:39] <Wafficus> or in the linux sense, .run or whatever
[03:39] <wxl> $PATH ultimately is a list, delimited by colons
[03:39] <wxl> it iterates through the list looking for whatever command you typed
[03:40] <wxl> again, first one wins
[03:40] <Wafficus> gotcha
[03:40] <Wafficus> so when I save that path variable
[03:40] <Wafficus> aka any changes to an rc file
[03:40] <Wafficus> I have to exit the terminal and come back to it for changes to result right?
[03:40] <wxl> it would be like if you had two bathrooms and you sent someone to look for toilet paper and you gave them a list of the master bathroom followed by the guest bathroom, they'd bring you the toilet paper from the master bathroom
[03:40] <wxl> you have three choices:
[03:41] <wxl>  1. run the export command in your existing terminal
[03:41] <wxl>  2. run `source $HOME/.bashrc` in your existing terminal which will reload the whole thing
[03:41] <wxl>  3. open a new terminal
[03:43] <Wafficus> gotcha
[03:43] <Wafficus> wrote that down in a .txt guide file for myself
[03:43] <Wafficus> appreciate that advice
[03:44] <Wafficus> I have guides in my guide folder for weird linux tricks I don't know off the top of my head
[03:45] <Wafficus> sweet
[03:45] <Wafficus> API Token installed
[03:48] <Wafficus> yeah I'm still getting that error lol
[03:48] <wxl> `which arc` ?
[03:48] <wxl> or do you mean the git error
[03:48] <Wafficus> the git error
[03:48] <Wafficus> which arch:
[03:48] <Wafficus> which arc:
[03:49] <wxl> nevermind that
[03:49] <Wafficus> /home/sbpc/bin/arcanist/arcanist/bin//arc
[03:49] <wxl> it says PACKAGE doesn't exist?
[03:49] <Wafficus> it has two slashes near the end
[03:49] <Wafficus> that can't be right
[03:49] <wxl> if `arc --version` returns something like this you'll be fine:
[03:50] <wxl> arcanist d9a4293ae734756823b4a3ca202f185c57f3e834 (3 Aug 2018)                                                       
[03:50] <wxl> libphutil 5b341cc09ca9bb707be469c7f23bbf6a961bc593 (15 Aug 2018)    
[03:50] <Wafficus> yeah it returns 14 september 2018 and 1 oct 2018
[03:50] <wxl> then leave that alone
[03:50] <Wafficus> ok so that's fine I guess
[03:50] <wxl> so now the problem is the PACKAGE doesn't exist?
[03:50] <Wafficus> hmm
[03:50] <Wafficus> yeah
[03:50] <wxl> did you reaed the line in the instructions that says:
[03:50] <wxl> "arcanist d9a4293ae734756823b4a3ca202f185c57f3e834 (3 Aug 2018)                                                       
[03:50] <wxl> ugh
[03:50] <wxl> "Anything in caps represents a field you'll need to fill out based on your particular situation."
[03:50] <Wafficus> its okay, copying and pasting for me is a pain too
[03:51] <Wafficus> idk why tmux is a pain with it
[03:51] <Wafficus> I usually have to pull up another terminal all together to copy and paste lol
[03:51] <Wafficus> idk why
[03:59] <Wafficus> so is it a prob on my end then do you think?
[03:59] <wxl> yes
[03:59] <wxl> PACKAGE is not what you should be using
[04:00] <Wafficus> oh so its the bug specific .git file
[04:00] <Wafficus> ?
[04:00] <wxl> no
[04:00] <wxl> the actual repo for the code
[04:00] <wxl> all the repos are here https://phab.lubuntu.me/diffusion/
[04:01] <wxl> the repo you want is here https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/
[04:01] <Wafficus> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/common/modules/automirror
[04:01] <Wafficus> I have a change to the main.py fil
[04:01] <wxl> click the clone button and you'll see PACKAGE = "calamares-settings-ubuntu"
[04:01] <Wafficus> file
[04:02] <Wafficus> ok will do
[04:03] <Wafficus> aha you're right
[04:04] <Wafficus> so would it be git clone ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu.git
[04:04] <wxl> nope
[04:04] <Wafficus> or just that git command right?
[04:04] <Wafficus> git clone command rather
[04:05] <wxl> git clone ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu.git
[04:05] <wxl> just like in the instructions
[04:05] <wxl> only you replace PACKAGE
[04:05] <wxl> for everything in that list, you will need to tweak anything in CAPITAL_LETTERS to what your specific need requires
[04:06] <Wafficus> ok I cloned it successfully
[04:07] <Wafficus> would "main.py" be the CODENAME in that section?
[04:07] <wxl> no, cosmic
[04:08] <wxl> the codename of the release
[04:08] <Wafficus> ah I see
[04:08] <Wafficus> Im in that directory
[04:08] <Wafficus> and I did git checkout ubuntu/cosmic
[04:09] <Wafficus> error: pathspec 'ubuntu/cosmic' did not match any file(s) known to git.
[04:09] <wxl> ugh yes i guess @tsimonq2 did not set up the branches appropriately
[04:09] <Wafficus> hold on it might be me
[04:09] <wxl> you can continue in the master branch. `git branch` and make sure master is selected
[04:09] <wxl> no i'm sure it's not
[04:09] <Wafficus> okay I ran git branch
[04:10] <Wafficus> then I got a * master
[04:10] <Wafficus> I'm guessing I am now in the master branch
[04:10] <wxl> yup
[04:11] <Wafficus> ok, so I tried: uscan --download-current-version
[04:11] <Wafficus> it sayid: uscan warn: No watch file found
[04:11] <wxl> ah yes
[04:11] <wxl> this is because it's an exception
[04:11] <wxl> scroll down to "native"
[04:12] <wxl> tl;dr skip to all that plus the quilt stuff. make changes and move on to the dch bit
[04:12] <Wafficus> okay, so we apply changes directly to src
[04:12] <wxl> you won't need to do the `rm -rf !(debian) .pc/` step either
[04:13] <Wafficus> so do:
[04:13] <Wafficus> dch -i?
[04:13] <Wafficus> -i vs -a
[04:13] <Wafficus> what do these flags represent
[04:13] <Wafficus> include vs append?
[04:13] <wxl> i should write a whole section on this
[04:13] <wxl> yep one sec
[04:18] <Wafficus> gotcha, lemme know
[04:18] <wxl> i need about 5 min to type this out
[04:18] <Wafficus> hmm, should I hit you up tomorrow then about this revision
[04:18] <wxl> naw
[04:18] <Wafficus> is it mission critical?
[04:18] <wxl> i just want to type this once
[04:18] <Wafficus> ok
[04:19] <Wafficus> I only ask
[04:19] <Wafficus> cause its like 12:19 AM here in NY
[04:19] <wxl> it's important, yeah
[04:19] <Wafficus> gotcha
[04:19] <wxl> ah go to bed :)
[04:19] <Wafficus> well
[04:19] <Wafficus> before you type it out
[04:19] <Wafficus> help me push my change first
[04:19] <Wafficus> and then do what you want
[04:19] <wxl> well i'm trying to answer your question
[04:19] <wxl> clearly
[04:19] <Wafficus> true
[04:19] <wxl> and in the documentation so others see it
[04:19] <Wafficus> true again
[04:28] <Wafficus> so any updates my dude?
[04:28] <wxl> almost done
[04:28] <Wafficus> cool
[04:28] <Wafficus> sorry to rush
[04:28] <Wafficus> I just know that my main.py will probably save the day tbh
[04:29] <Wafficus> it fixed the getcountry() and getmirror() functions
[04:30] <wxl> ok updated with a note about version numbers
[04:31] <wxl> tl;dr `dch -i` (increment). you should be on 22.
[04:31] <Wafficus> increment gotcha
[04:32] <Wafficus> 22 for what/
[04:32] <Wafficus> like line 22 of the guide?
[04:32] <wxl> version 22
[04:32] <Wafficus> ah gotcha
[04:32] <Wafficus> I refreshed the page
[04:32] <Wafficus> it looked similar
[04:32] <Wafficus> for the guide that is
[04:32] <wxl> look at the line for dch and read its entirety
[04:32] <Wafficus> nvm I saw the change
[04:34] <Wafficus> so
[04:35] <Wafficus> maybe its my add or something
[04:35] <Wafficus> I see the reading and yeah that's good
[04:35] <Wafficus> but im assuming there's no additional changes
[04:35] <Wafficus> so would it be -i for that flag in this case?
[04:35] <wxl> yep
[04:35] <Wafficus> ok I'll try that
[04:35] <Wafficus> I appreciate that section
[04:36] <Wafficus> so before I do this dch business
[04:36] <Wafficus> should I just replace the main.py with the one I made earlier
[04:36] <Wafficus> ?
[04:36] <Wafficus> cause before it had all that quilt stuff before
[04:36] <wxl> you can do it before or after
[04:36] <Wafficus> ok
[04:37] <wxl> you should get into the habit of doing it before tho
[04:37] <wxl> if you're going to follow that guide for other things
[04:37] <Wafficus> ok will do
[04:37] <wxl> since the quilt section involves the changes
[04:37] <wxl> quilt can be.. particular
[04:37] <Wafficus> ok so I see this doc it opened up
[04:37] <Wafficus> these are the changes i'm assuming right
[04:38] <Wafficus> do I write my section that I'm changing right?
[04:38] <wxl> follow the format you see there
[04:38] <Wafficus> ok
[04:39] <wxl> basically you'll want to just add a bulletpoint briefly describing your change
[04:40] <wxl> pastebin me the changelog after you've done the `dch -r` step and i'll doublecheck it
[04:44] <Wafficus> ok I did that dch -r step
[04:44] <Wafficus> I did wq! in VIM
[04:44] <Wafficus> and now its back in the same directory
[04:44] <Wafficus> was it supposed to give me a paste bin
[04:44] <Wafficus> oh the change log
[04:44] <wxl> no
[04:44] <Wafficus> sorry
[04:44] <Wafficus> yeah one sec
[04:45] <Wafficus> my copy and paste doesn't work in tmux
[04:45] <Wafficus> so I'll try to write it out like usual
[04:46] <Wafficus> dch: warning: debian/changelog(15): badly formatted heading line
[04:46] <Wafficus> LINE: urllib.request. This is due to a renaming or urllib's modules in Python 3,
[04:46] <Wafficus> dch: warning: debian/changelog(16): badly formatted heading line
[04:46] <wxl> so pastebin the changelog
[04:46] <wxl> not the output of dch
[04:46] <Wafficus> LINE: which was causing Bug # 1794844.
[04:47] <Wafficus> how do I get to the change log?
[04:47] <wxl> cat debian/changelog | pastebinit
[04:47] <wxl> give me the URL from that
[04:47] <Wafficus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Xk6bSXQSVd/
[04:48] <wxl> ok yeah
[04:48] <wxl> i did say "briefly" XDF
[04:48] <wxl> so several things here:
[04:49] <wxl>  1. version should be 22 not 21ubuntu1 as i said before (this is a native package)
[04:49] <Wafficus> gotcha
[04:49] <wxl>  2. You clearly do not have DEBEMAIL or DEBFULLNAME set because your name and email are invalid
[04:49] <Wafficus> hmm I set the git user full name and email though
[04:50] <Wafficus> ok
[04:50] <Wafficus> any other things missing?
[04:50] <wxl>  3. The reference to the bug can simply be "(LP: #1794844)"
[04:50] <wxl> ignore that
[04:50] <wxl> the git user is not enoguh, which is why i have both of them in there
[04:50] <Wafficus> gotcha
[04:51] <wxl>  4. do your bulletpoints like this:
[04:51] <wxl> (something like this)
[04:51] <Wafficus> hold that thought
[04:52] <Wafficus> lemme get onto another terminal one sec
[04:52] <wxl>  * Updated getmirror() and getcountry() for urllib.request (LP: #194844)
[04:52] <Wafficus> back
[04:52] <wxl>  * Updated getmirror() and getcountry() for urllib.request (LP: #194844)
[04:52] <Wafficus> okay go ahead with that bullet point section
[04:52] <wxl> in general you want to keep it under 80 characters
[04:53] <Wafficus> ok i'll keep it brief
[04:53] <wxl> if you go to a different line because you're feeling really blabby, it needs to be nested under the previous line like:
[04:53] <wxl>  * Something something
[04:53] <wxl>   blah blah blah
[04:53] <wxl> ugh
[04:53] <wxl> let me do that again
[04:53] <wxl>  * Something something
[04:53] <Wafficus> no worries
[04:53] <wxl>    blah blah blah
[04:53] <wxl> like that
[04:53] <wxl> the S and the first b line up
[04:53] <Wafficus> ok i'll just keep it to one line
[04:54] <wxl> simpler that way
[04:54] <Wafficus> ah gotcha
[04:54] <Wafficus> yeah tab out until they match
[04:54] <Wafficus> I get the idea
[04:54] <wxl> Maybe even just do this:
[04:54] <wxl>  * Updated automirror for urllib.request (LP: #194844).
[04:54] <wxl> simpler still
[04:54] <wxl> ugh wrong bug but you get the ide
[04:55] <Wafficus> so can I still incremeent it again
[04:55] <Wafficus> with that -i flag
[04:55] <Wafficus> or do I have to undo it right?
[04:55] <wxl> just `dch`
[04:55] <wxl> you'll probably have to edit it
[04:59] <Wafficus> I put my personal email
[04:59] <Wafficus> I changed it to version 22
[04:59] <Wafficus> kept it under 1 line for the change
[04:59] <wxl> pastebinit please?
[04:59] <Wafficus> and added my full name
[05:00] <Wafficus> what's the command again?
[05:00] <Wafficus> sorry my chat log disappeared cause im now in LxTerminal
[05:00] <wxl> cat debian/changelog | pastebinit
[05:01] <Wafficus> thanks
[05:02] <Wafficus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B4DdRgjrt6/
[05:03] <wxl> you don't need the calamares in there
[05:03] <Wafficus> ok
[05:03] <wxl> and actually I'd just use automirror rather than mentioning the functions
[05:03] <wxl> and don't forget the LP bug reference
[05:04] <Wafficus> so
[05:04] <Wafficus> automirror instead of Calamares?
[05:04] <Wafficus> or Lubuntu?
[05:04] <wxl>  * Updated automirror for urllib.request.
[05:04] <Wafficus> great
[05:06] <Wafficus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PyQ5Rpq67x/
[05:06] <wxl> don't even need the lubuntu
[05:06] <wxl> and don't forget the (LP: #BUGNUMBER)
[05:07] <wxl> and a period :)
[05:07] <Wafficus> dang I forgot the bug number one sec
[05:07] <wxl> if i want to be super anal: use "Update" to keep verb tense the same
[05:09] <Wafficus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bhpSRYNNwH/
[05:09] <wxl> you forgot the period but it's ok :)
[05:09] <Wafficus> fuck
[05:09] <wxl> language now
[05:10]  * wxl covers @tsimonq2 's sensitive ears
[05:10] <Wafficus> whoops sorry
[05:10] <Wafficus> you're right one sec
[05:11] <Wafficus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V3TFHZv96v
[05:11] <wxl> Ship it
[05:11] <Wafficus> but I still need to update the main.py with mine
[05:12] <Wafficus> hmm
[05:12] <Wafficus> where is that section with the main.py
[05:13] <wxl> common/modules/automirror
[05:15] <Wafficus> ok I changed it
[05:15] <Wafficus> aka I put the main.py in the correct spot
[05:17] <Wafficus> I did arc diff
[05:18] <Wafficus> and its asking me to Enter a commit message
[05:18] <Wafficus> just save it and get out right?
[05:18] <wxl> yup you want to do that
[05:18] <Wafficus> like
[05:18] <Wafficus> don't write anything?
[05:18] <wxl> more or less same as the changelog entry
[05:18] <wxl> like "updated automirror for urllib.request"
[05:19] <Wafficus> it gave me a fatal error
[05:19] <Wafficus> saying I don't have an email address
[05:19] <Wafficus> got 'sbpc@sbpc.(none)
[05:19] <wxl> uh
[05:20] <wxl> whoa that's new
[05:20] <wxl> wth does that mean
[05:20] <wxl> it means someting isn't set right
[05:20] <wxl> does `echo $DEBMAIL` and `echo $EMAIL` both give your email?
[05:21] <Wafficus> nothing returns
[05:21] <wxl> what about well then you didn't follow the instructions
[05:21] <wxl> see requirements 2.A.b
[05:27] <Wafficus> so now I get a STDERR aborting commit due to empty commit message
[05:27] <Wafficus> I did put a message with a pound sign at the bottom
[05:27] <Wafficus> aka a comment
[05:27] <Wafficus> or does it want this without a # sign?
[05:27] <wxl> yeah that's empty
[05:28] <wxl> would you commit something on git with a commit messge like "# something someting" ?
[05:28] <wxl> rhetorical question; the answer is no
[05:28] <Wafficus> Command efailed with error# 1
[05:28] <Wafficus> COMMAND
[05:28] <Wafficus> git commit -F '/tmp/dyncdd9xmz480g4o/5349-owCMXj'
[05:28] <Wafficus> STDOUT
[05:28] <Wafficus> (empty)
[05:29] <wxl> right
[05:29] <wxl> you can't do an empty commit message
[05:29] <Wafficus> but I did git add -A
[05:29] <Wafficus> and then arc diff
[05:29] <wxl> and then you need to enter a commit message
[05:29] <Wafficus> wrote in the comment at the bottom with a pound sign in front of it
[05:29] <wxl> that's an empty commit message
[05:29] <Wafficus> so don't include the pound sign?
[05:30] <wxl> if you make a bash script and it's got a bunch of commands with #'s before them, it's not going to run antyhing
[05:30] <wxl> right
[05:30] <wxl> it works the same way on github
[05:31] <Wafficus> what do you want for test plan and reviewers?
[05:32] <wxl> test plan should be something like "verify basic function in US, but then also have non-US users test for functionality, especially paying attention to time"
[05:32] <wxl> reviewers is now documented at the end of the thing, but "@tsimonq2, @wxl"
[05:33] <Wafficus> subscribers?
[05:33] <wxl> none
[05:33] <Wafficus> like literally write that?
[05:33] <wxl> non
[05:33] <wxl> no
[05:33] <wxl> leave it blank
[05:33] <Wafficus> ok
[05:34] <Wafficus> I made the change
[05:34] <Wafficus> Revision URI: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D23
[05:34] <wxl> congrats
[05:34] <Wafficus> damn it did it do another change without asking me?
[05:35] <Wafficus> isn't it supposed to be 22?
[05:35] <Wafficus> thanks though
[05:35] <wxl> that's the differential revision number
[05:35] <Wafficus> ah gotcha
[05:35] <wxl> not the version number of the package
[05:35] <Wafficus> ok cool
[05:36] <wxl> it looks to me like this should functionally be the exact same thing
[05:36] <Wafficus> oh wow
[05:36] <wxl> am i wrong?
[05:36] <Wafficus> yeah but on its own, without those dot operators, it will mess up
[05:36] <Wafficus> this is a common urllib mistake
[05:36] <wxl> ok
[05:36] <Wafficus> even people in #python were like
[05:36] <Wafficus> use requests library instead
[05:36] <wxl> it still needs the try/except bits as aforementioned
[05:36] <Wafficus> I've had the same issue personally though anyway
[05:36] <wxl> and needs a timeout of some kind
[05:36] <Wafficus> ah I see
[05:37] <Wafficus> I fixed the easy issue that I could see
[05:37] <wxl> (and the try/except bits should handle the timeout)
[05:37] <wxl> oh yeah that's a step in the right direction
[05:38] <Wafficus> anyway, thanks for your help man
[05:38] <Wafficus> good night ;)
[05:38] <wxl> no problem
[05:38] <wxl> thank you
[05:38] <wxl> now doing the next steps should be easy
[05:38] <wxl> at least once you've written them :)
[05:38] <Wafficus> hopefully haha
[05:38] <wxl> start with the timeout. that should be fairly simple
[05:38] <Wafficus> well I made a couple guide text files
[05:39] <wxl> make it arbitrary like i don't know 90s or something
[05:39] <Wafficus> sounds good
[05:39] <wxl> then add a very simple try/except
[05:39] <wxl> no real error handling
[05:39] <wxl> then add a little error handling here and there
[05:39] <Wafficus> yeah you're just waiting for a ping to the server right?
[05:39] <Wafficus> like a basic REST function?
[05:39] <wxl> yeah the bug seems to reflect timeouts
[05:40] <wxl> i could be wrong
[05:40] <wxl> this may be all we needed
[05:40] <wxl> still those other bits should add some additional robustness
[05:41] <Wafficus> gotcha
[05:41] <Wafficus> anyway peace out for now
[05:41] <Wafficus> cya
[05:41] <wxl> ta
[06:08] <wxl> anyone in a foreign country please see https://phab.lubuntu.me/D23 and see what sort of results you get out of the installer
 @wxl [<wxl> anyone in a foreign country please see https://phab.lubuntu.me/D23 and see …], wants me to log in
 @wxl I am able to get Trojita to install now. When I try to launch it throws an error: trojita: error while loading shared libraries: libtrojita_plugins.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
 @wxl yes I absolutely wanted to fix that dang changelog! Sorry I wasn't around last night. My husband was home after being gone for a few days. ... I've got to be out of the house this morning, but absolutely want to have this worked out this afternoon.
 @wxl [<wxl> anyone in a foreign country please see https://phab.lubuntu.me/D23 and see …], I will now, I was in 18.04 w/o calamares
 didn't found libcalamares either.
 My system does nota have /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu)/calamares/
 should it?
 Has anyone bluetooth? Apparently Papirus-Dark "system tray icon" for BT is dark (same as volume) so it doesn't look well with Lubuntu Arc.
[15:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T83: Differential ACLs are messed up] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83
 @HMollerCl [Has anyone bluetooth? Apparently Papirus-Dark "system tray icon" for BT is dark …], That can be solved disabling "colorize icons based on widget style" maybe should it be the default????
[15:30] <wxl> @acheronuk: @tsimonq2 updated it so it's now viewable. i now also changed the default view policy for differential to public. 
 great. maybe I should make an account anyway, but publicly viewable is best :)
[15:32] <wxl> yeah i'm not sure for what reason we had public for who can use is but all users for viewing
[15:32] <wxl> if anything the other way around
[15:34] <acheronuk> 'reason' and phabricator are not comfortable bedfellows
[15:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T83: Differential ACLs are messed up] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83#1562
[15:38] <wxl> @HMollerCl you won't have x86_64-linux-gnu if you're on i386 XD
[15:39] <wxl> i think it's probably reasonable to say we don't want to colorize the icons on the widget style unless we match the panel style to the widget style
[15:42] <wxl> oh and re: everyone that tested trojita: thanks. it confirms my suspicions that i need to make use of the debian packaging
[15:43] <wxl> @TheWendyPower what time would be good for you?
[15:51] <wxl> why are the bug reports always against lubuntu-tweaks? i don't even
[15:55] <wxl> anyways @tsimonq2 do we need to worry about discover being too sucky? wasn't ian complaining about this when he wasnt' complaining about the size of gnome games? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/discover/+bug/1795632
[15:56] <wxl> tfw your processor supports vtx but not 64 bit 
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl you won't have x86_64-linux-gnu if you're on i386 XD], But I'm on 64bit
 Any other reason why it isn't there?
[16:05] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#4zT9m5cyb95jH9KbO9EeBQ
[16:06] <wxl> maybe you used x86-64 ?
 @wxl [<wxl> anyways @tsimonq2 do we need to worry about discover being too sucky? wasn …], Do we have any other reasonable option for a software center?
 @wxl [<wxl> maybe you used x86-64 ?], more general, I don't have /usr/lib/(i138-linux-gnu|x86_64-linux-gnu)/ where teh code of D23 shoudl be
 the "Adwaita (The Only One)" icon theme, breaks thing. After using it the shutdown and lxqt-configuration icons are gear, no matter what theme you use. After re-login it solves.
 @wxl I should be home about 12:30 MDT
 @HMollerCl [the "Adwaita (The Only One)" icon theme, breaks thing. After using it the shutdo …], could we get rid of adwaita-icon-theme to avoid it?
[16:30] <wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 muon only?
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @tsimonq2 muon only?], Hasn't been updated in a whole.
 *while
 I'm surprised we still ship it
[16:31] <wxl[m]> @HMollerCl is it clear that (this|that) means either this or that?
[16:32] <wxl[m]> @TheWendyPower that's 1130 here which should work for me.
[16:32] <wxl[m]> We should pick one
[16:32] <wxl[m]> I haven't looked at Kubuntu this cycle. What are they doing?
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @HMollerCl is it clear that (this|that) means either this or that?], yes, my question is. Shoudl I have it by default or should I create it.
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> We should pick one], @tsimonq2 at least for me, they are different used differenly. Discover is like software center, muon like synaptics package manager.
 @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 at least for me, they are different used differenly. Discover is like …], Right
[16:51] <wxl> @HMollerCl you DEFINITELY should have /usr/lib/<architecture>-linux-gnu
 sorry, what I don't have is calamares
 usr/lib/<architecture>-linux-gnu/calamares
[16:56] <wxl> if it's an installed system you likely won't
[16:56] <wxl> you could install calamares and the lubuntu settings for it
 *grumble* *grumble* merged /usr by default
[16:56] <wxl> you what?
 They kinda flipped that on recently, I think.
[16:57] <wxl> they changed the location of the libs?
[16:58] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.14]
[16:58] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.15]
[16:58] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-meta [source] (cosmic-proposed) [1.12]
 Perhaps. Let's just blame xnox and move on. XD
 FINALLY SOME QUEUE PROCESSING OMG
[16:58] <wxl> yeah i'm usually more inclined to blame agaida but ok :)
 True.
[16:59] <wxl> although i'll give him credit: we had a long talk about packaging the other day and he was remarkably helpful
[16:59] <wxl> maybe i caught him while the caffeine was still metabolising XD
 Maybe XD
 unchecking colorize icon make it better to see on sys tray, but worse on pcmanfm.
 could we get rid of adwaita-icon-theme to avoid strange behaivour?
 @HMollerCl [could we get rid of adwaita-icon-theme to avoid strange behaivour?], Sure can; if it works as intended, wanna submit a diff to the seed blacklisting it?
 I should add it to the blacklist file only?
 No, see how we blacklist other packages in `desktop`.
 But you should also see if it's a recommend or a depend of lubuntu-desktop. If it's the latter, this gets harder.
[17:06] <wxl> !package e.g. https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/browse/cosmic/desktop$37
 XD
[17:07] <wxl> whatever
 @tsimonq2 [But you should also see if it's a recommend or a depend of lubuntu-desktop. If i …], How can I check it?
 @tsimonq2 [No, see how we blacklist other packages in desktop.], Blacklist is done with a ! before?
[17:24] <wxl> @HMollerCl yep and you can use apt-rdepends
 @HMollerCl [How can I check it?], Close your eyes and prey? XD
[17:24] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you want him to go hunting?
 For wabbits
 It's wabbit season
[17:24]  * wxl facepalms
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl yep and you can use apt-rdepends], Or this...
 Hehe
 apparently muon can dot it
 nope, does not do reverse.
 lubuntu-desktop appear in apt-rdepends -r adwaita-icon-theme
 but there are a loooot of things that appear that shouldn't be affected. For instance: xorg.
 but all the Humanity icon theme depends on adwaita
 Try `reverse-depends` from the `ubuntu-dev-tools` package.
[17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEd9d8f9c5d22c: DSC file for 1.12] Diffusion committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUMETAARCHIVEd9d8f9c5d22c
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[17:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T85: CI for packaging repos] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T85
 @tsimonq2 [Try reverse-depends from the ubuntu-dev-tools package.], that's nicer
 hmoller@hmoller-pc:~$ reverse-depends adwaita-icon-theme ... Reverse-Recommends ...  any of this is problematic?
 The question really is how it's pulled in.
 sorry, I don't undersatnd your question. What I know is that: ... 1.- it exist an adwaita-icon-theme-full which has all the icons. ... 2.- but this package is not the full, it has the icons that are missed in humanity. ... 3.- apparently, since it has not all the icons, produces this trange behaivour.
 i purge it in my system and beside of droping the humanity icon set, I don't see any other issue.
 I believe that if someone install a gnome app, it will be added.
[18:12] <Wafficus> hey guys, did my patch work out?
[18:12] <Wafficus> just wanted to make sure before I try the "try and catch" clause exception handling later
 @tsimonq2 [The question really is how it's pulled in.], firefox needs adwaita
 adwaita-icon-theme
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[18:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVEf8cf380412c2: Import patches-applied version 1.14 to applied/ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVEf8cf380412c2
[18:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVE36fcb2a618eb: Import patches-unapplied version 1.15 to ubuntu/cosmic-proposed] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUBUNTUDEFAULTSETTINGSARCHIVE36fcb2a618eb
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[18:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T86: Reorganizations of official titles] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T86
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T86: Reorganizations of official titles  3]   15tsimonq2 (Simon …], wxl, @TheWendyPower: ping ^
 I decided to not create that internally so we could have a more public discussion about it.
[19:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T87: Online account integration] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T87
 I have had caffeine, I'm spitting ideas out real quick :)
 @wxl @tsimonq2 I'm at my desk now, so I'm ready to chat about whatever we need to chat about. What would be really nice is if we caould all just go grab a coffee....
 @TheWendyPower [@wxl @tsimonq2 I'm at my desk now, so I'm ready to chat about whatever we need t …], Agreed :)
[19:19] <wxl> here
[19:19] <wxl> @TheWendyPower
[19:20] <wxl> BTW @kc2bez etc. apparently there's nothing in the code that would preclude the showing of the "empty disk" option........ unless the partition is mounted
[19:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T67: Repository for manual for LXQt] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67#1592
[19:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T78: Make icons for Telegram to put on Lubuntu.me] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T78#1594
[19:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T72: Fix HTML for lubuntu-devel list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T72#1595
[19:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T86: Reorganizations of official titles] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T86#1596
 @wxl Now that you mentioned it, I had mounted the hard drive, as I moved files from it, into the live environment. I didn't even think of that before now.
[19:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T67: Repository for manual for LXQt] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67#1597
[19:24] <wxl> ok phew
[19:24] <wxl> i'm going to count that as not a bug for the time being unless we can find otherwise
[19:24] <wxl> so wendy where are we at with this thing?
[19:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T70: Evaluate BlueMoon] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T70#1599
[19:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T70: Evaluate BlueMoon] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T70#1605
 @wxl we are at me needing to scroll back to where you were talking to Hans about it. I didn't pull the instructions at the time, I need to go back and get them. I'll do that now.
[19:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T67: Repository for manual for LXQt] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67#1606
[19:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T41: Test the Openbox SRU] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T41#1608
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[19:39] <wxl> @tsimonq2: whatcha up to when you're done dealing with tasks/
[19:39] <wxl> are you working on stuff
[19:39] <wxl> ?
[19:39]  * wxl jumps up and down
[19:40] <wxl> cuz if you are this would be a neat one to bang out https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libfm-qt/+bug/1795537
 @wxl I installed calamares (sudo apt install calamares)
 run automirror/mai.py
 hmoller@hmoller-pc:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/automirror$ ./main.py  ... Traceback (most recent call last): ...   File "./main.py", line 20, in <module> ...     import libcalamares ... ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'libcalamares'
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: whatcha up to when you're done dealing with tasks/], I'm bored in class because I flew through the 20 minute activity in five minutes.
 I have had waaaay too much caffeine.
 @wxl when I install calamares it doesn't create an "automirror" directory
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[20:10] <Wafficus> is it possible to install Lubuntu without X?
[20:12] <lyorian> Wafficus: Well openbox only works in X
[20:13] <Wafficus> so for an Acer Aspire 3690 with 512 meg ram, is it only good with Ubuntu server?
[20:15] <wxl> @tsimonq2: work now!!!!!!!!!!
[20:15] <wxl> @HMollerCl you need the settings package to get automirror and you can't call it directly
[20:15] <wxl> (not easily)
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 wxl: I'm not going to budge, my friend.
 I enjoy Release Management waaaay too much.
[20:49] <wxl> then we should train a backup
 Mkay
 ...who? XD
[20:49] <wxl> we need to find and identify someone
 Good luck with that :)
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 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl you need the settings package to get automirror and you can't c …], how do I call it?
 how can I test it?
[21:20] <wxl> the easiest way: boot live, apply the patch, start calamares
 ok, will try that in a couple of hours
 is there a known behaivour for the logout/shutdown dialog? I don't see it now in the betas of 64bit and 32bit and the last 3 64bit dailies. But I saw it in 32bit beta in a physical machine.
[21:25] <wxl> what are you talking about?
 when you want to shutdown, sometimes a dialog appear
 aaaa, now I get it is the "leave" dialog.
 when you press leave it opens a very nice dialog.
 @wxl So I need to clear up some steps, as I seem to be missing something.  ... 'git pull' ... Then there is an error with the changelog ... 'remote: Counting objects: 13, done. ... remote: Compressing objects: 100% (13/13), done. ... remote: Total 13 (delta 9), reused 0 (delta 0) ... Unpacking objects: 100% (13/13), done. ... Fr
[21:34] <wxl> all you need to do is fix the changelog, really, Wendy
[21:34] <wxl> just edit it so that it's ordered correctly
[21:35] <wxl> and then do something like `git commit -m "merge upstream changes"`
[21:35] <wxl> and then, assuming you've done everything else, you should just be able to get push
[21:35] <wxl> BUT
[21:35] <wxl> HOLD ON
[21:35] <wxl> Linda J Black
 So I'm making this really really hard when it is not.
[21:35] <wxl> ubuntu/bionic -> origin/ubuntu/bionic
[21:35] <wxl> you're in the wrong branch
[21:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T86: Reorganizations of official titles] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T86#1645
[21:36] <Wafficus> were the branches corrected btw wxl 
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[21:36] <wxl> not that i'm aware of Wafficus 
 I've been using ubuntu/cosmic... Let me try this again...
[21:36] <wxl> @tsimonq2: calamares-settings is ubuntu, not ubuntu/cosmic
[21:36] <wxl> Wendy: yeah, probably just because you were away from it for a while
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: calamares-settings is ubuntu, not ubuntu/cosmic], Baaaah
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 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T86: Reorganizations of official titles  3]   15wxl (Walter Lapc …], @Wolfenprey :)
 Ermagerd wxl, we can get a Lubuntu Council going, and in real life we can call it "the lick" XD
 Get it
 Because... L C
 LC
[21:41]  * wxl sighs
 Ha ha haaaaaa
 ...I'm terrible. 😆
[21:43] <wxl> you need to go do some development work
[21:44] <Wafficus> wxl: random question wxl, what do you do for work for like money? I'm looking to break into dev stuff later, probably something Quality Control related first though I need the full 2 years at this job first
[21:44] <Wafficus> wxl: Rather, what's the best way to get dev gigs for money?
 wxl has /the/ most hipster job on the planet XD
[21:44] <wxl> Wafficus: i sell custom bicycles and also do a little IT stuff for them
[21:44] <Wafficus> is he a bike store manager?
[21:45] <Wafficus> sweet wxl 
[21:46] <wxl> Wendy you get it fixed?
 @wxl yep, being on the right bang brach makes everything better! :P
[21:47] <wxl> ok ping me if you need help
 Sounds good!
 @tsimonq2 [@Wolfenprey :)], yep im on work, but reading!
[21:53] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-config/+bug/1795539
[22:02] <wxl> oooh it got worse https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-config/+bug/1795539
 @wxl [<wxl> oh and re: everyone that tested trojita: thanks. it confirms my suspicions …], Let me know if you need something tested again.
 @wxl [<wxl> BTW @kc2bez etc. apparently there's nothing in the code that would preclud …], I don't think I explained my situation here too clearly, plus I found some more information. Check this pastebin https://pastebin.com/0iQJjCkz
 @wxl I can shoot you a screenshot as well if you need.
[22:15] <wxl> get the logs out of ~/.cache
 standby, I'll paste them up.
 https://pastebin.com/nb5HVYc9
 (Photo, 949x283) https://i.imgur.com/JwxgTtF.jpg As you can see in this screenshot, I don't have the erase option.
 I think I am a fringe weird case (pretty much true all the time).
[22:45] <wxl> @kc2bez try `swapoff /dev/sda5` before running calamares
 @wxl [<wxl> the easiest way: boot live, apply the patch, start calamares], How should I know if it works? After installation ends? Or before?
 It liked that. Erase is there now.
[22:50] <wxl> @HMollerCl if it's proceeded to installing packages that's usually a good sign. You can watch the log in ~/.config to see when it enters and leaves the automirror section, too
[22:51] <wxl> @kc2bez remember what i said? won't offer it if something is mounted. apparently the swap gets automounted for some reason.
[22:51] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you know any reason why booting live would automount a swap partition on the drive?
 When you talk about starting calamares, you mean starting installation, right?
[22:51] <wxl> yes
 @wxl it makes more sense to me now. I had to tap it out for it to sink in.
[22:54] <wxl> @HMollerCl if you look at /etc/calamares/settings.conf you'll see the sequence of options. automirror is before packages, but after users, etc.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: do you know any reason why booting live would automount a swap …], No
[22:57] <wxl> @kc2bez if you start afresh again BEFORE RUNNING CALAMARES is the swap partition mounted? maybe give me `lsblk` again
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D24
[23:35] <wxl> @TheWendyPower reviewed!
[23:41] <wxl> @tsimonq2: where/how do we remove calamares after install?
[23:41] <wxl> @tsimonq2: or is it more that we don't install it at all? that's it right?
[23:42] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/modules/packages.conf$5
[23:42] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/settings.conf$45
[23:49] <Wafficus> question regarding lxterminal, so is it possible to full screen it?
[23:50] <Wafficus> like fully full screen it?
[23:51] <wxl> lxterminal or qterminal?
[23:51] <Wafficus> lxterminal
[23:51] <wxl> mmm don't think so
[23:51] <Wafficus> *feature request ;)
[23:51] <wxl> hah
[23:51] <Wafficus> hey you know what would be a cool thing
[23:51] <Wafficus> if this isn't a thing already
[23:51] <Wafficus> what if you could visualize git branches like ranger
 Fixed @wxl and comment added @tsimonq2 to D24
[23:51] <Wafficus> that'd be sick
[23:51] <wxl> the one thing i would say is that lxde's development is reaaaaaaaaaaly slow
[23:52] <wxl> they had to work hard enough to get gtk3 support let alone have full screen terminals XD
[23:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: ""
[23:52] <tsimonq2> The only "oddity" is this. Why is there an option to install Lubuntu on
[23:52] <tsimonq2> my desktop after I've installed Lubuntu? 
[23:52] <Wafficus> ha
[23:52] <tsimonq2> oops
[23:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: That's a whoooooole separate issue.
[23:52] <wxl> @tsimonq2: which?
[23:52] <tsimonq2> I gotta fix that shiznit.
[23:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: ubuntu-quality
[23:53] <wxl> what issue is that because i don't even see it???
[23:53] <Wafficus> wxl: did you want try and except clauses for getcountry() AND get mirror() right?
[23:53] <Wafficus> *for automirror
[23:53] <wxl> @tsimonq2: seems that live images automount swap by design (to deal with low ram). the problem with this is that if a drive has a swap partition, then the entire disk option is not displayed
[23:54] <tsimonq2> wxl: Different issue.
[23:54] <wxl> Wafficus: for now, getcountry()
[23:54] <Wafficus> wxl: gotcha thanks
[23:54] <tsimonq2> wxl: It'll take less time for me to fix it and show you the fix and you understand the fix than for me to explain it to you.
[23:54] <wxl> @tsimonq2: dude when you figure out how to speak in complete sentences, come back, ok? :)
[23:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: Shhh, fixing it.
[23:55] <tsimonq2> XD
[23:55] <wxl> faster
 @wxl It automounted swap but I think you already figured that out.
[23:58] <wxl> yeah
[23:59] <wxl> thanks
[23:59] <Wafficus> what's a good light weight internet browser for lubuntu btw?