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kaddiHi, does anyone have an explanation why nslookup host would fail, but nslookup -debug host works? I'm trying to figure out a search domain issue and nslookup itself (and everything else) can't resolve it. But nslookup -debug resolves it just fine.. which implies that to some level things are set correctly?00:09
kk4ewtand nslookup is ancient  i have been told to use dig now a days00:13
rfmkk4ewt, dig talks the dns protocol directly, doesn't apply the search in resolv.conf, so is not quite testing the same thing.00:15
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bparkerI'm trying to get a zfs boot/root working on 16.04, and everything looks correct to me (pool is online, initrd contains zfs stuff, I can mount it fine from a livecd) but upon booting from the drive, I get dropped into the initramfs shell. any ideas why? zpool list from that shell shows the pool just fine.00:39
bparkerthe zfs mountpoint is also set to /00:40
mousesbparker: this helped me, and applies pretty much as is to 18.04 as well00:41
mouseshttps://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS00:41
mousesoh they did a 18.04 guide too00:41
mouseshttps://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-18.04-Root-on-ZFS00:42
deadghostany software recs to remove audio static?00:46
deadghostffmpeg seems to just have a lowpass highpass thing00:46
deadghostwhich doesn't appear to be doing the job00:47
bparkerdeadghost: audacity00:47
bparkerbut it's really quite bad IMO00:47
bparkercrashes all the time and it's really hard to use00:47
bparkerbut the filters are nice00:47
mousesdeadghost: https://www.audacityteam.org/00:47
bparkermouses: yea I've been looking at it, unfortunately it doesn't really help me debug what's going on right now though00:47
mousesbparker: weird, I never get a crash with it and find it very simple to use00:47
bparkeryou might not be doing much complicated work with it then00:48
bparkersimilar situation to the people that say 'gimp works fine for me' when they don't otherwise use photoshop professionally00:48
mousesbparker: idk, I do a lot of live DJ work and audio editing - a lot of the 'simple stuff' can be handled with it00:48
mousesbparker: *nods* that's fair00:48
mousesbparker: for more advanced stuff (hate to admit this) I have a windows box and NI software for that :(00:49
bparkeryep00:49
bparkerI just try to use the right tool for the job00:49
mousesstill for 'removing static' audacity should be very easy to use for that00:49
mousesI mean it's a built in filter00:49
bparkeragreed00:49
bparkerand it works well for that in my experience00:49
mousesbparker: Wish I could be more help with zfs - it's still a bit of 'here there be dragons' for me00:50
mousesI have it working but it's hard to even remember how I pulled it off :(00:50
bparkerwell, if we look at this from a 'what do we see' perspective, and forget about zfs00:50
bparkerwe know I'm getting the initramfs shell00:50
bparkerso all things being equal, how might I start to debug why that would happen00:50
bparkerI don't see any other messages before it appears00:51
naccbparker: that presuably means it was unable to boot /00:51
nacc*mount /00:51
bparkerand running 'exit' seems less than helpful00:51
naccbparker: look in syslog00:51
bparkernacc: this system has never booted successfully before00:51
bparkerso there wouldn't be a log I think?00:51
naccbparker: look in `dmesg` ?00:51
bparkerI did, nothing unfortunately :/00:51
mousesbparker: what nacc said - check dmesg, also I remember having serious issues with free space 'before' the /boot00:52
mousesbparker: I want to say it was a partitioning issue00:52
mousesbut it's been years ;(00:52
naccbparker: can you mount / now?00:54
bparkernacc: in the initramfs shell? if I try 'zfs mount poolname' I get 'mount /: directory is not empty'01:14
bparkerand just 'mount /' says it's not in fstab01:14
bparkerwhich, it wouldn't be01:15
bparkerit's also not just one drive but a large array01:15
Niytroanyone know the technician login for spectrum askey routers01:21
NotLimwhich country is that?01:21
Niytrous01:24
bparkerNiytro: admin/admin01:28
Niytrobparker, thats default login, sometimes there is a secondary technician login01:29
Niytrobparker, which has more options01:29
bparkeryou didn't even give a model number or anything though01:30
bparkerhow could one possibly answer your question seriously01:31
NiytroRAC2V1K01:34
Niytrobecause i think this model is nationwide01:34
Niytroits all there is01:34
Niytromaybe im wrong01:34
Niytrotime warner used to use different routers but they were acquired by spectrum01:34
Niytroaskey RAC2V1K01:35
Niytroi think is what it is01:35
Niytrothere is no option to update firmware manually so i thought there might be a technician login01:35
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Niytroi guess i could bridge mode it to my own router01:36
geniiThey might know more about your router in the #openwrt channel01:37
Niytrothx01:37
bparkerNiytro: https://www.timewarnercable.com/content/dam/residential/pdfs/support/WirelessRouters/Final%20Askey_User%20Manual_20170612%20(1).pdf  just says admin/admin and looks like it gives you access to everything01:40
Niytrospectrum restricts it01:47
Niytrothats okay ill just have to call emm01:48
bparkeryou don't say what it restricts01:49
bparkeror how01:49
Niytrofirmware upgrade01:50
Niytroi think its cause they do it01:50
Niytroits possible its restricted over wifi01:53
Niytromaybe I have to plug it in ethernet01:53
bparkermouses: nacc: I added the debug kernel cmdline param and it output a logfile in /run/initramfs, it says 'No init found. Try passing init= bootarg.' at the bottom01:57
bparkerthis filesystem was previously rsync'ed from another (running) box and I'm just trying to move it other to this new box01:57
bparkermove it over*01:57
bparkerapparently /lib/systemd is somehow missing a bunch of files, guess my rsync didn't really finish like it said it did02:00
bparkerugh02:00
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kaddi@kk4ewt dig just can't resolve it at all02:17
kaddiI'm focusing on nslookup because I'm trying to understand why one works and the other doesn't.. Hoping from there I hope to figure out why it doesn't work by default02:18
NotLimkaddi: what's the problem?02:19
kaddiNotLim: Problem is when I connect to a VPN the two search domains get added to /etc/resolv.conf however only the first of the two is actually used. The VPN works fine on debian testing, windows, mac and as I recently found out, if I do a nslookup -debug host, nslookup will actually correctly append the search domain and find the host. When I do nslookup host, it doesn't. So I'm trying to see what the difference between how the two resovle the address is02:21
NotLimyou're testing in debian?02:22
kaddino, I'm on ubuntu 18.0402:23
kaddiI just know that it's working for a colleague on debian testing02:23
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NotLimok02:23
kaddihttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/khnz7wD88F/02:23
kaddinslookup output02:23
RoscoePColtranekaddi: use nslookup FQDN02:25
kaddiRoscoePColtrane: that works obviously. I'd like to get the search domains working though02:26
kaddiRoscoePColtrane: it's not just nslookup that is'nt working. Nothing can resolve it (except nslookup -debug apparently)02:26
RoscoePColtranekaddi: and that's actually preventing you from production or being productive???02:27
kaddiRoscoePColtrane: Yes, because there's a bunch of different servers I need to contact and it's a major PITA to type name.subdomain.domain.page.com rather than name02:28
kaddiand yes it's something I have to do daily02:28
RoscoePColtranekaddi: or is it one of those situations where you have plenty of free time/ spare time to just ponder things?02:28
RoscoePColtranekaddi: oh i see02:28
kaddiI mean the easiest solution would probably be to switch to debian02:29
kaddibut I kinda like to understand what's broken and why02:29
kaddialready tried to switch from resolved to dnsmasq, but that didn't fix the issu02:29
kaddithe search domains are listed in /etc/resolv.conf02:30
kaddiso I'm not sure where they aren't listed but should be02:30
RoscoePColtraneno i wouldn't expect a switch from resolved to dnsmasq to net different results02:30
kaddiwell I was working under the assumptoin that it's a bug in resolved, since everyone online is bitching about how nothing works as it should with resolved02:31
kaddibut obviously that's not it02:31
RoscoePColtranea bug?...hmmm dns resolution works perfectly as it should for myself and many others i'm sure02:32
kaddiresolved changed how search domains are appended (if I understood this correctly) to avoid spilling the internal infrastructure to public dns servers and there's many cases where especially search domains just didn't work at all and eveyrthing needed to be used in FQDN02:33
RoscoePColtranemaybe something with each problem reporting users network infrastructure and or configuration02:33
RoscoePColtranemaybe you have avahi installed...it can have odd effects on certain network topology scenarios in regard to dns02:34
kaddiguess it's not a bug per se.. it's a feature that's upsetting many VPN users.. even though I can understand the end-goal02:34
kaddiis there an easy way to disable that to test it?02:35
RoscoePColtraneyou probably got avahi installed as it's installed by default02:35
kaddiyeah, I'm fairly sure I've seen it in the running processes here and there02:35
RoscoePColtraneand like i mentioned avahi can have odd effects on dns name resolutioin02:35
RoscoePColtraneresolution02:35
kaddiis sudo systemctl disable avahi-daemon sufficient to disable it?02:36
RoscoePColtranedisable it? maybe...i just remove it...because for my environment it's does more harm than it could ever possibly be of any use02:36
kaddihaha, I'm reluctant to remove entirely without knowing what it does.. disabling should be fine since I can always reenable it :p02:37
kaddihow did you remove it?02:37
RoscoePColtranei uninstalled it02:37
kaddisudo apt-get remove avahi?02:38
RoscoePColtranei could simply "reinstall" it if i ever needed it...which i won't ever need it02:38
RoscoePColtranereplace "remove" with "purge"02:38
PLLunlockis anybody else using Gigamonster for their ISP?02:38
kaddiok, will try that02:38
kaddibbiab02:38
bparkermouses: nacc: actually, missing files wasn't really my problem... this was: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/grub/issues/2502:40
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mousesbparker: Ahh!02:44
naccbparker: interesting02:44
leonardusHow can I know whether this will work with Ubuntu? https://www.amazon.com/Fingerprint-PQI-Matching-Biometric-Security/dp/B06XG4MHFJ/03:07
neurot@leonardus All the questions and answers on Amazon on that product says it does not work on Linux Windows only03:13
leonardusAre there any that work with Ubuntu?03:13
neurotAmazon has a good return policy :-)03:14
neurothttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237729803:15
neurothttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237729803:16
leonardusno replies03:16
neurot-Stupid NVIDIA drivers crashed my PC03:22
neurot-back to nouveau drivers03:23
Kon-I've always had much better luck with the Nvidia drivers, personally. Nouveau doesn't even really work with the newer generations of hardware03:24
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neurot-GeForce GTX 760 that is what I have03:25
neurot-<Kon-> do you add the Nvidia ppa for your drivers03:26
Kon-neurot-: http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu03:27
neurot-Is it safe another thing to is I'm running KDE Neon03:29
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Kon-It works exactly the same on Neon as it does on Ubuntu03:29
Kon-sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa03:29
neurot-Kon- thanks03:31
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Kon-neurot: For the GTX 760, you should be using either the long-lived 390 branch or the current short-lived 396 branch03:32
neurotKon thank you for the help03:35
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neurot I am now running the latest drivers thank you kon-04:23
neurothttps://www.backtrails.net/next/index.php/s/7RBCmNNaNmRHqey04:25
ilias_gr hi all. does anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs?04:28
neurotits a snap04:28
neurotright04:28
ilias_grneurot: yes it is. any solytion to override this issue, so that default icon will change according the system's icon pack chosen from user04:29
ilias_gr?04:29
neurotI don't think snap icons can change with an icon theme set but I could be wrong that's just my thought04:30
neurotJust blame it on Microsoft because they won't allow it and its proprietary hahaha04:30
neurotilias_gr  Snap packages are packaged up different I have no idea04:32
ilias_grneurot: i saw that in notification area the name is 'skypeforlinux'. if an icon from an icon theme will renamed to 'skypeforlinux' under /status the icon change only in notification area appearance but it doesn't the icon in systray itself. that's strange too. any idea?04:32
neurotilias_gr sorry i dont04:36
neurotAnd I wrote it tutorial on fixing something similar to that but it was a native program for the private internet access icon04:37
neurotlol04:37
ilias_grneurot ok, thanks. i hoe someone could think a solution04:37
ilias_gr*hope04:37
neurotilias_gr Good luck04:38
ilias_grthanks04:38
ilias_grneurot: i read that snaps are isolated from the other system and work in a read only directory. if i uninstall a snap will every file move from my system? which is the best command using terminal to purge a snap?04:43
neurotilias_gr Someone will figure it out what theme said are you using04:44
ilias_grneurot i am using faenza icon theme, but elementary theme cannot also change this systray icon. so i consider to purge skype snap and install the deb package officially available from skype web site04:47
neurot deb package for skype I thought they got rid of that04:48
neurotI guess not just looked sweet for you04:50
neurotlol04:50
ilias_grneurot i think so too but the deb package is now available in skype web page.04:52
neurotI guess so just looked sweet for you04:52
neurotSorry I was using voice to text program04:53
neurot I should proofread my stuff04:53
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ilias_grhi all. does anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs? i use *.deb package not a snap one.05:31
Ben64because the other packs don't include a skype icon?05:31
ilias_gri noticed that in notification area appearance the icon set to faenza icon but in systray remains the default one05:33
ilias_grBen64: faenza icon theme include under /status all appropriate icons for systray05:40
ilias_grBen64: the names of files maybe are different. i renamed the online icon to skypeforlixux and i can see that the icon changed in notification area appearance menu, but it is not in systray. remains the default icon05:41
mbntHi, I installed Natron and now do not know how to uninstall it05:41
mbntI tried the purges, doesn't work05:41
mbntI get "E: Unable to locate package natron", but it is installed05:42
Ben64mbnt: whats the exact command you're doing05:43
ilias_grBen64: the window button icon also remains the same (the default one) although i am changing the system's available icon themes (elementary, gnome, faenza etc). How can i handle this situation?05:44
mbntBen64, I tried a bunch, one of them was apt-get sudo apt-get purge package05:44
mbntI tried synaptic as well05:44
mbntBen64, I downloaded and installed off the website05:44
Ben64oh well it looks like natron isn't a package that is in the ubuntu repositories, so that won't work05:44
mbntBen64, But I downloaded a beta called Natron2 and that will not launch and Natron will not launch either so I want to get rid of them both and just get Natron instead05:45
Ben64find the package, then 'sudo dpkg -r package.deb'05:45
ilias_grBen64: the package has been removed !05:49
mbntBen64, does not seem to work05:49
Ben64then contact whoever makes natron05:49
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ilias_grdoes anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs? i use *.deb package not a snap one.06:10
lotus|NUCilias_gr: does your theme have a new skype icon?06:13
ilias_grlotus|NUC: faenza icon theme has all the icons (maybe with other names) .06:14
adityaduggalHi people, I am facing an issue with my ubuntu server box, I have just installed a new network card and due to this I am unable to connect to my server06:15
lotus|NUCadityaduggal: join #ubuntu-server please, volunteers might take a look mate06:16
lotus|NUCilias_gr: did you check your icon pack if it has a 'newer' skype icon?06:16
cim209anyone here has experience with vgaswitcheroo?06:35
ilias_grhi all. does anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs? i use *.deb package not a snap one. as you can see in notification area preference appears the faenza icon after configuration set (https://pasteboard.co/HGy8pJE.png) but in systray appears the default icon (https://pasteboard.co/HGy9Biy.png) any idea on this issue?06:55
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funabashihui guys ens192.3 means its tagged with vlan 3 ?07:12
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spindown_is anyone able to help a beginner with a problem with wifi failing to start when resuming from sleep?09:06
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nagyghi all09:42
nagygI'd like to install mariadb on my ubuntu 18.04, however when I run apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client it returns with an error: mariadb-client : Depends: mariadb-client-10.1 .... E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.09:43
nagygthis is the first time I tried to intall mariadb09:43
nagygat least dpkg -l | grep maria shows no packages installed09:43
nagygwhat packages can be "broken"?09:44
nagygdpkg -l | grep ^..r does not list any broken packages09:44
nagygcan it be that the fact I have mysql installed causes this?09:46
ztanehaha sigh this snap+gnome shell... I opened a link from slack desktop client, it launched a firefox - then gnome shell thinks all subsequent firefox windows belong to slack :D09:46
ilias_grhi all. does anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs? i use *.deb package not a snap one. as you can see in notification area preference appears the faenza icon after configuration set (https://pasteboard.co/HGy8pJE.png) but in systray appears the default icon (https://pasteboard.co/HGy9Biy.png) any idea on this issue?10:09
ilias_grhi all. does anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs? i use *.deb package not a snap one. as you can see in notification area preference appears the faenza icon after configuration set (https://pasteboard.co/HGy8pJE.png) but in systray appears the default icon (https://pasteboard.co/HGy9Biy.png) any idea on this issue?10:10
q9Do i need gvfs for HintSystem=yes and HintIgnore=yes to be respected in GNOME?10:16
guivercnagyg: the packages you likely have 'broken' are not from mariadb, but a prior command that had issues, that was ignored,   try `sudo apt-get -f install`10:54
spindown_anyone able to look at a pastebin for a wifi connection that keeps reporting unable to connect after resuming from sleep?11:01
lotus|NUCspindown_: could you provide us more details please, ubuntu version? chipset? syslog errors?11:05
spindown_of course. ubuntu 18.04.01 LTS. Network-manager 1.10.6-2ubun11:08
spindown_im pretty much a linux beginner, which is a pain11:08
lotus|NUCspindown_: for the chipset: sudo lshw -C network11:09
lotus|NUCspindown_: you dont need to paste everything, just the chipset line, and have a look at bottom if driver= is active11:09
spindown_its an intel wireless 3165 , driver=iwlwifi11:12
lotus|NUCspindown_: ok thank you for checking11:13
lotus|NUCspindown_: can you try this: tail -f /var/log/syslog and disable wifi and re-enable then hastebin all the text new comming in your tail?11:14
spindown_i get some errors in the network manager log that i don't fully understand: e.g.11:14
spindown_09:43:53 NetworkManager: <info>  [1538469833.3469] device (wlp1s0): state change: unavailable -> disconnected (reason 'supplicant-available', sys-iface-state: 'managed')11:14
spindown_okay, will do11:14
spindown_the problem only appears when resuming from sleep - do you still want me to try that command that you mentioned?11:15
spindown_ok, done that. the error appeared.ill pastebin11:16
lotus|NUCspindown_: you can keep your tail on try hibernation too, and come back with the new errors11:18
spindown_https://pastebin.com/2W1YhEiY11:18
spindown_during this, three errors came up regarding the connection. then i manually connected11:19
spindown_https://pastebin.com/bsVtmNuc11:21
spindown_second paste, after putting on standby. same three errors, then manually connected11:21
lotus|NUCspindown_: so if i understand right, after the wakeup you dont get an automatic wifi connection right11:24
spindown_correct11:24
lotus|NUCspindown_: then you select your ssid manually and connect?11:24
spindown_yes11:24
lotus|NUCand that works11:24
HeebieHello.  Does anyone know why Ubuntu 18.04's timezone package incorrectly sets Europe/Dublin to LMT instead of the correct IST?11:25
HeebieMy time is off by 1 hour because of it.11:25
lotus|NUCspindown_: can you doublecheck your system settings/power settings see wifi settings & hibernate11:26
spindown_will do11:26
lotus|NUCspindown_: your system is up to date to latest also? check kernel with: uname -a11:27
spindown_Linux laptop 4.15.0-34-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Aug 27 15:21:48 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux11:28
lotus|NUClooks good spindown_11:28
spindown_im looking in the settings.11:28
lotus|NUCspindown_: tell me wich settings are enabled there?11:29
spindown_they are fairly basic settings in the settings-power section11:30
spindown_under power saving, dim screen on, blank screen 5 mins, wifi and bluetooth are on, automatic suspend when on battery is 20 mins11:30
lotus|NUCspindown_: ok tnx11:31
spindown_im just doing an apt update just in case11:31
lotus|NUCspindown_: apt-cache policy linux-firmware gives you version 1.173.1?11:32
spindown_yes it does11:33
lotus|NUCspindown_: ok lets make a new bug for this mate11:33
lotus|NUCspindown_: ubuntu-bug network-manager (from a terminal)11:34
lotus|NUCspindown_: if you dont have a launchpad account yet, create a new one11:34
hollusionis /lib/udev/rules.d and /etc/udev/rules.d equivalent? in terms of the system loads all ruels from boths places?11:35
cim209how do i move the system tray icons?11:35
cim209two of them don't have the same spacing as the others11:36
spindown_cool, will do. thanks11:37
ToxtloHi, I am trying to learn on iptables. I want to configure a setup with virtualization and macvlan. Is it actually possible to configure a macvlan interface via iptables? I need to somehow loop my traffic back via nat...11:37
lotus|NUCspindown_: call the bug something like intel wireless 3165 does not connect after wakeup11:38
lotus|NUCspindown_: and describe your story to the bug, adding your pastebins etc11:38
leeyaahello. i would like to run a second php-fpm instance. is there an official way of doing that? i am on bionic, with php-fpm 7.211:43
leeyaai tried duplicating php-fpm init.d script, changing a few variables here and there, but i couldnt make it work for some reason11:44
spindown_submitted11:44
leeyaait was still controlling my main php instance instead of the new instance11:44
lotus|NUCspindown_: ok now try to do some testing yourself too and keep your bug updated ok11:45
lotus|NUCspindown_: like, testing other kernel, other ubuntu version, perhaps test hibernate with cable,11:45
lotus|NUCspindown_: and thank you for submitting the bug, you helping yourself and the community like this11:45
BluesKajHey folks12:05
pahi12:23
pamy system got screwed12:23
pai tried to start in recovery mode, but not even that starts12:23
pahow can i fix it?12:23
pai already started another ubuntu, mounted the partition and proc/sys/dev/etc, and chrooted into it12:24
paalso fsck'ed the partition12:24
hollusiongraphical text editor that can filter text? (hide line that contain XYZ)12:24
hollusion*lines12:24
arabcoderhow to install ubuntu?12:43
bailroc google?12:43
cim209magic12:43
bailrocget a disk, burn it, put it in cdrom drive and follow the instructions?12:43
bailrocor, install to usb key, and install it it12:44
arabcodercdrom drive damaged...12:44
bailrocby following the DIRECTIONS12:44
bailrocanyways.. your option is usb key or pxe12:44
cim209download iso, download usb iso burner from http://etcher.io12:44
arabcoderthanks...12:44
cim209that's how i installed ubuntu 18.04 to my macbook12:44
arabcoderIt is possible to keep windows too?12:45
cim209yeah, use this http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/12:46
BluesKaj!dual boot12:46
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot12:46
cim209you'll need two partitions, one for swap and one for the OS12:46
arabcoderI have only one partition...12:48
pai rly donno whats wrong12:49
pai ran debsums -a12:49
paeverything seems alright12:49
paupdate-grub reinstalled grub12:50
pawhat else can i do?12:50
arabcoderthanks...12:50
pawhen i try to install grub i get:12:51
pagrub-install: warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible.12:51
nbusronehi , I need a bit help installing ubuntu 18.04 SSD.Should I partition a swap on it ? When reading the guide , swap size is suppose to double my RAM.Having 16GB of ram which mean I need to reserve 32GB on my 120GB SSD ?12:56
nbusroneCan I reduce the swap size ?12:57
servergeekyou can skip swap12:59
servergeekwith 16 gb of ram it's kind of useless12:59
servergeekyou don't want swap anyway12:59
BluesKajnbusrone, that swap rule shouldn't apply to a 16GB Ram system ...yes keep your swap about  8GB if you think it's needed12:59
nbusroneBluesKaj : thanks , so what is the best partition you suggest for an 120GB ssd ?13:01
pragmaticenigmanbusrone: It should be noted that 18.04 doesn't need a dedicated swap partition. In 18.04, Ubuntu will create a swap file if no swap partition is defined. It will automatically allocate a reasonable size to the swap file for you.13:02
BluesKajnbusrone, best? depends how you want to set them up13:02
BluesKajpa, for a simple install, create a dos partition table instead of gpt, and legacy mode in the bios,.That's if you don't need any more than 4 promary partiitons13:12
BluesKajprimary rather13:12
berkleyI see in 18.04 LTS unattended security upgrades are enabled by default, and the unattended-upgrade manpage suggests it is to be run via /etc/cron.daily/apt, but that file does not exist. Anyone know if I need to create it or if it is already configured elsewhere by default?13:13
paBluesKaj: but i'm not sure what's wrong. This drive was booting before the system crashed and somehow got corrupted..13:13
pragmaticenigmaberkley: Did you enable the option during install?13:14
nbusronepragmaticenigma BluesKaj : How does 10.04 allocate swap ? and ho do I check whether it 18.04 use swap ?13:15
BluesKajpa in gpt you need to install grub to /uefi/boot afaik ..in ubuntu the the auto install is supposed to do that for you13:15
berkleypragmaticenigma: I installed via preseed, but I guess I should look there. I'm ordinarily a redhat guy13:15
paha13:16
paBluesKaj: so now i try to recover with a live 16.0413:16
panow i was trying to recover with a non-live 14.0413:16
pragmaticenigmaberkley: I'm not familiar with preseeding ... I would think there might be an issue with the way the preseed was configured though13:16
ecormierubuntu we have a problem :)13:17
pragmaticenigmanbusrone: Your question doesn't make any sense... Ubuntu 10.04 is long past it's support and documentation is no longer available for it.13:17
berkleypragmaticenigma: The only line which references it is this: "d-i pkgsel/update-policy select unattended-upgrades". I guess I need to RTFM now :P. Thanks for your help13:18
pragmaticenigmaecormier: Is there an Ubuntu support question we can help you with?13:18
nbusronepragmaticenigma BluesKaj : ops sorry ,I mean 18.0413:18
ecormierlibreoffice calc: when I use the sum function, updates to the refered cells DO NOT update the summed cell13:18
pragmaticenigmaberkley: Please mind language and acronyms13:18
berkleymy apologies13:18
ecormierthis is a new issue since the last oo update13:18
ecormierknown bug?13:18
pragmaticenigmaberkley: If this is your first attempt at using Ubuntu, I'd recommend installing from the regular images... See how things are configured by default there... then use that to build your preseed13:18
pragmaticenigmaecormier: Have you tabbed out of the cell after making the change?13:19
ecormieralso in writer: opening a 2 page .doc with 2 tables, one on each page displays one page with the two tables superimposed13:19
ecormierpragmaticenigma: yes13:19
pragmaticenigmaecormier: not experiencing any issue with LibreCalc and not updating a cell populated with SUM()13:20
ecormierpragmaticenigma: look at my bottom row: http://pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=ac358f6dff4b28b8a3f8f34d6f33f0ec13:21
ecormierhehe, should have fuzzed those names anyways13:21
pragmaticenigmaecormier: Without knowing what you placed in those cells... the image doesn't tell me anything13:22
pragmaticenigmaecormier: and yes, you should have fuzzed both the names and the Student IDs13:22
ecormierthose are '1's in each cell, last cell is =SUM(C15:AL15)13:22
ecormierpragmaticenigma: all publicly available anyways :)13:23
ecormierI'll try a reboot, but that's not good behavior13:23
pragmaticenigmaecormier: You might want to make sure the field types are numbers as well. beyond that... I'd try a fresh spreadsheet and see if you can replicate the issue there... If you can, file a bug report13:24
pragmaticenigma!bug13:24
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:24
ecormierapparently, saving, closing a reopening starts the cell updates and now it works... but still a bug... let me test a little more13:25
nbusronepragmaticenigma BluesKaj : anyhow , that for the advice.Do I need to do some command for SSD installing 18.04.Read some need to type a command for trim but it's enable on 18.04 ?13:25
ecormierreboot first13:25
tomreynnbusrone: fstrim runs weekly by default on supported file systems on 18.0413:26
tomreynnbusrone: you may need to enable it on underlying layers if any.13:27
pragmaticenigmanbusrone: As long as you use official installation sources for Ubuntu, those are not necessary. Something to note, whatever you are reading, check for a publication date, if it is older than 2 years... find something else. If it doesn't have a date, consider it to be garbage and find another source13:27
tomreynnbusrone: i.e. if you use, for example, full disk encryption, trim passthrough may not be anbled by default13:29
ecormiercell update issue seems to be gone, writer/table overlay issue still present... I'll look into that when I have more time13:32
nbusronepragmaticenigma tomreyn : regular user , not using any disk encryption .Yeh , I checked , but it's a long read of understanding all the SSD stuff in it.I bit more technical term for me https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization13:34
pragmaticenigmanbusrone: First issue, that's for Debian, not Ubuntu13:34
nbusronepragmaticenigma : is it the same distro ?13:37
pragmaticenigmanbusrone: not even close13:37
pragmaticenigmanbusrone: Ubuntu started with debian as a base, years ago. From there it has gone in a completely different direction.13:38
pragmaticenigma!debian13:38
ubottuUbuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See https://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/ubuntu-and-debian - !Repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!13:38
nbusronepragmaticenigma : Thanks , i had a hard time reading and understanding them :(.13:38
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BluesKaj--13:51
guardianhi, I need a bit of help. I did echo "foo" > /etc/hostname and then I did hostnamectl set-hostname foo13:54
guardianthen I rebooted13:54
guardianand I still have the previous hostname13:54
guardianand /etc/hostname has been changed back13:54
guardianhow can I change my hostname please?13:54
lotus|NUC!hostname | guardian13:56
ubottuguardian: Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly.13:56
c0feI am using LXD, I have ubuntu 18.04 as a container image and I am trying to add 80 and 443 into the allowed ufw ports but i am getting this error: https://hastebin.com/etukatuvec.rb13:56
c0fewhy?13:56
BluesKajguardian, so change it in /etc/hosts as well13:58
guardianthere's no mention of the old hostname in /etc/hosts13:58
BluesKajguardian, yes, but add the new hostname there anyway13:59
guardiansystemd's a joke right :(13:59
TJ-Has anyone done an accurate export from Scribus to LibreOffice Writer (e.g. for a letterhead design -> writer template) ?14:01
guardianit seems it's cloud-init that changes the hostname back14:03
guardiancloud-init's a thing I don't need but is there14:03
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BluesKajguardian, should look somehtning like "127.0.1.1 Hostname" in /etc/hosts14:06
BluesKajguardian, are you sure you don't need cloud-init? is this a production machine ?14:11
guardianit's there when you install ubuntu server14:13
BluesKajbest to ask in #ubuntu-server chat about that, guardian14:17
guardiank14:17
guardianthanks14:17
majusculeIs it possible to have a user local sources.list?14:29
majusculeI am on a restricted machine but would like to be able to use `apt-get source`14:29
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TJ-majuscule: are you able to create containers using LXD ? if so, you could do it within a container14:31
majusculedon't know, i'm not familiar with lxd14:31
Oolhi, with an Ubuntu 18.04 I want to clean the gdm users list at login before (16.04…) I could rm /var/log/wtmp to do that but now, I don't know how to do that14:31
majusculeugh this is all so gd annoying. i really just want an easy way to install libraries locally so i can compile shit14:32
pragmaticenigmamajuscule: please mind your language and acronyms14:32
pragmaticenigmamajuscule: Also, you should be taking this up with the system administrator who set the policy to be restrictive. There is a reason it's setup that way, and you probably shouldn't try to circumvent it14:33
TJ-majuscule: you can do it somewhat manually, but if you don't have permissions to use "apt-get build-dep <package>" you'll find building to be difficult/frustrating, due to missing required libraries. In an unprivileged container you have full 'root' access though, so can do it all14:33
JimBuntuYou see pragmaticenigma , this is why I always escalate my privs. On a serious note, majuscule , you really should talk to the admin.14:35
majusculei have been encouraged by the admin to compile whatever i desire14:37
compdocgood luck with that14:37
majusculethank you :-)14:37
TJ-majuscule: for containers, to test if you have the facility, try "lxc launch ubuntu:1804 my_container"14:37
TJ-majuscule: if that works you'll have a running container, which you can get a shell in using "lxc exec my_container /bin/bash"14:38
pragmaticenigmamajuscule: Then you should speak to the admin about being able to install packages you need.14:38
majusculeunfortunately i do not have lxc installed. i might be able to get docker/vagrant or something14:38
TJ-majuscule: can you install snaps?14:39
majusculepragmaticenigma: i'm not sure why you are repeating that. i asked a question about installing local libraries, not about debating policy14:39
pragmaticenigmamajuscule: Because the policy of the machine is what is preventing you from completing your task. That's why. There is no one here who can change that14:40
majusculepragmaticenigma: are you saying that it is technically impossible to install libraries user local? i know for a fact that that is not the case.14:41
pragmaticenigmamajuscule: If you can't install anything, then anything recommended here won't work, since nearly all suggestions so far have required the ability to install packages14:41
majusculein fact i can do so manually, and my original question was only if it was possible to configure apt-get source user locally to make it easier14:41
pragmaticenigmamajuscule: To answer your original question, the answer is no, it is not possible14:42
majusculethank you.14:42
ArminiusTuxHi, any OpenGL driver tweakers around?14:43
TJ-majuscule: Yes, there is a way. If you have 'fakeroot' then "fakeroot apt-get source <package>"14:43
pragmaticenigmaArminiusTux: This isn't the correct forum for that topic. This channel is focused on providing support14:44
majusculeoo that's a very interesting idea, thanks TJ-14:44
pragmaticenigma!alis | ArminiusTux14:44
ubottuArminiusTux: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"14:44
ArminiusTuxpragmaticenigma: thank you for the hint, I sort of need a solution how to switch OpenGL drivers within Ubuntu14:45
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paAnd it's alive..15:10
padamn..15:10
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jilocasinafternoon all16:22
jilocasindoes anyone know how I can stop notification spam?16:23
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CarlFKhow do I find out what package supplies libX11.so.6 ?16:45
TJ-CarlFK: if it's installed, then "dpkg -S libX11.so", if not you'd need to install "apt-file" then do "sudo apt-file update; apt-file search libX11.so"16:47
CarlFKthanks - I was poking apt-cache16:47
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_BIGSHOT_i have apple imac 2009's keyboard bluetooth but it is not pairing what to do? mouse bluetooth connected fine!!!16:54
_BIGSHOT_i get message "failed to connect"!, but keyboard bluetooth shows up in devices of bluetooth16:55
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TJ-_BIGSHOT_: there's a sequence you have to follow to make it work17:01
TJ-_BIGSHOT_: see my comment #29 at bug 149034717:02
ubottubug 1490347 in bluez (Ubuntu Wily) "[Regression] 16:04 + 15:10 - Cannot pair with devices using (legacy LMP Link Management Protocol) PIN codes" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/149034717:02
nemohm. Is there any particular reason that an old ubuntu would have better support for my monitor than debian?  I was wondering if for example there was some ubuntu-maintained monitor mode-line database or something17:21
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pragmaticenigmanemo: You would have to explain what you mean by better support. also, comparing Ubuntu and Debian against each other doesn't work. While Ubuntu started with Debian as it's base, they are no longer similar.17:25
snuknhi I just joined :) do I have to do the /msg NickServ everytime I start irssi?17:25
pragmaticenigmasnukn: Due to a high volume of spam, anyone desiring to chat in #ubuntu support/chat channels need to register their nicks. Which means you will need to authenticate each time17:26
pragmaticenigmasnukn: you can look at the documentation to find out if there is a way to have irssi automatically log you in each time. Or look here: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/irssi17:29
nemopragmaticenigma: I switched from ubuntu 14.04 to devuan for reasons that hardly need elaborating - I noticed immediately monitor's max resolution was well below the default 1600x900 - kicked myself for not having grabbed the modelines from xrandr before installing17:29
snuknthanks pragmaticenigma I'll have a look at that17:29
nemopragmaticenigma: but then started wondering why exactly was it failing to detect - I was using the FOSS driver with both...17:29
snuknbtw im getting some weird symbols with irssi at the nickname part17:30
snukncan I post a screenshot of my desktop and see if you know what it is?17:30
pragmaticenigmanemo: There are a large number of reasons. You're question would be better sent to the Debian group since it is with Debian that you experience the issues.17:30
pragmaticenigmasnukn: You can post picture and place a link here. Remember to obscure (black out) anything private or that you don't want being exposed on the internet17:31
snuknalright sec17:32
snuknignore the black line in the middle of the middle screen, i used my wacom cintiq and accidentaly drew a black line there :P17:35
snuknhttps://i.imgur.com/KCIZ0jX.png17:35
snuknit's low quality, but you can see stuff like "?" after the nicknames17:35
pragmaticenigmasnukn: those are place holders for unrecognized character codes. I'm not sure why irssi is doing that or the terminal emulator is doing that17:38
nemopragmaticenigma: yeah, I'm following up with them, but I was wondering if in particular, ubuntu might have a project where it maintains such additional modeline information17:38
snuknhmm im using rxvt unicode17:38
nemopragmaticenigma: which is something ubuntu would know more about than debian ☺17:38
rdgpragmaticenigma: you tried to help me with swapping workspaces in dual monitor mode in ubuntu and ubuntu would only move to a new workspace on teh primary monitor17:38
nemopragmaticenigma: this would be helpful regardless of non-ubuntu distro if the information was, presumably, open17:39
pragmaticenigmanemo: That would be found in the source code17:39
rdgpragmaticenigma: I forget the name of teh tool.. it was.  $something-tweaks. .. but you use it to enable workspaces across both monitors17:39
pragmaticenigmanemo: I suspect it's a difference of version for X11, where Ubuntu could be running a newer version of X server that enables/handles support for high density displays.17:40
pragmaticenigmardg: gnome-tweaks17:40
nemopragmaticenigma: fair 'nuff, although I'd swear I've had no such issues for a very long time - and the idea that Ubuntu 14.04 would be a newer version seemed rather odd to me.17:42
pragmaticenigmasnukn: I don't know what those settings are, or what would be a better setting to choose. You may have some luck seraching for "irrsi displaying unknown characters"17:42
nemopragmaticenigma: but. can't hurt to check I guess!17:42
nemopragmaticenigma: but. yeah, this is not a "high density" display, 1600x900 is a pretty standard laptop resolution, and the laptop itself is very very old ☺17:43
pragmaticenigmanemo: One of Debian foundations is to stay the course on the most stable version. That often means it's far behind other distros in versions17:43
nemopragmaticenigma: yeah. naw. both are on x11 7.7.. hum17:45
nemodurn changelog link on ubuntu.com is dead ☹17:46
pragmaticenigmanemo: that's a good question then...17:46
nemoin fact xerver-xorg-video-radeon is on 7.8 in devuan, and 7.3 in trusty updates.17:47
nemopragmaticenigma: but ok, was just wondering if there was some secret sauce - I guess my next step is to try an ubuntu usb boot to see what on earth it's doing17:48
pragmaticenigmanemo: that appears to be more related to graphics card driver handling, than x server17:49
pragmaticenigmanemo: In my experience, I've had different distros do completely different things with monitor detection, even when everything appears to be on the same version. X server is a large beast of an application, and there are lots of little nuances to how it configures itself and works.17:50
nemopragmaticenigma: mm :/17:51
pragmaticenigmanemo: I know that I have used xorg.conf files created on what I preceived to be a working setup, work completely differently in another distro on the same hardware17:51
nemopragmaticenigma: poking around online, there's more than a few people who've run into problems with the Precision M6600 on various distros, even ubuntu - but I'd swear it worked for me prior17:51
nemo*sigh*  if it wasn't my total opposition to the systemd thing, I'd not have left my comfy ubuntu setup at all. ah well.17:51
TJ-nemo: it all depends on the driver receiving EDID from the monitor. Check the Xorg.0.log to see what was returned, or on a live system use "xrandr -q"17:52
nemoTJ-: kk thanks for the hint17:52
TJ-nemo: X will select the 'best' mode as returned in the EDID that matches what it understands the GPU can support17:52
nemoTJ-: xrandr -q only lists 1152x864 and 1024x768...17:52
nemoTJ-: let's see if the EDID block in the xorg log offers anything different17:53
TJ-nemo:  is that from the Ubuntu boot?17:53
nemoTJ-: sorry, ubuntu is gone now - I should not really be getting support here, it's just 'cause you offered, and I'd initially come here w/ quest to find out if there was an ubuntu-specific modeline database or something ☺17:54
nemointeresting. the xorg log shows 1600x900 modelines...17:54
nemolet's see if I can force 'em w/ xrandr..17:55
TJ-nemo: right; if you had the Ubuntu Xorg.0.log we could compare; but for any X system, see that log to get an idea of the EDID provided modes received, and modes selected17:55
nemoTJ-: http://m8y.org/tmp/Xorg.0.log  if you're curious17:55
nemothere shouldn't be anything secret in there ☺17:55
nemowell, my boot hash but whatever 😝17:56
TJ-nemo: if xrandr -q is reporting something different to what Xorg log reports, that suggests a problem with the driver17:56
nemohmmmmm17:56
nemoTJ-: maybe I should downgrade then!17:56
TJ-nemo: and your issue is it is only using the VESA driver, not the GPU-specific driver (radeon)17:59
nemoOMFG17:59
nemoTJ-: aaaagh I checked glxinfo and glxgears to make sure direct rendering was happening and at a decent framerate17:59
nemoTJ-: how could I have missed something so basic17:59
nemowild. glxinfo still says direct rendering: yes18:00
nemoO_o  OpenGL vendor string of... vmware? wut18:00
TJ-nemo: root cause is "[  5271.879] (II) [KMS] drm report modesetting isn't supported."18:01
Jordan_Unemo: VMware has paid developers to make llvmpipe, a driver that provides OpenGL via the CPU.18:01
TJ-nemo: that warning is followed by this error: "[  5271.879] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory"18:02
Gazooohi, so I have a stability issue with my home server running ubuntu server, I lose connectivity via SSH and pretty much all my running services stop working, machine still has power but is headless, I have to force reboot by power switch. I am thinking it could be a hardware issue but was wondering if there's any suggested software I could run to ke18:02
Gazoooep track of things over time and I can debug issues when they next occur18:02
Gazooosyslogs aren't showing much and are hard to sift through with so much running on the machine18:03
TJ-nemo: does "lspci -nnkd 1002:6720" show a kernel driver in use?18:03
nemoJordan_U: ah. interesting.  I'm impressed by the performance then18:03
nemoTJ-:  huh. I wonder if it's possible that I was using that awful unstable closed source radeon graphics driver and just forgot18:03
Jordan_Unemo: Please pastebin the complete output of "glxinfo".18:04
nemoit may be with hardware this ancient I have no choice though18:04
nemoJordan_U: http://termbin.com/c4aa18:05
nemoJordan_U: and lspci http://termbin.com/90jo  'cause why not18:06
Jordan_Unemo: Yup, that's llvmpipe. Entirely CPU :)18:06
nemoJordan_U: I guess I need to see what the FOSS radeon driver support for the Radeon HD 6970M is18:06
nemoJordan_U: welp. TIL - once upon a time I knew to always check "direct rendering"18:06
nemoJordan_U: in hedgewars support I've asked users on various linux distros to check that too18:07
nemonow I know that's wholly inadequate18:07
Jordan_Unemo: What version of Ubuntu are you using?18:07
nemoJordan_U: so... you kinda missed how I got here, sorry, I *was* using Ubuntu 14.04 - but I decided to make the transition to Devuan Ascii since 14.04 was approaching EOL18:07
nemoJordan_U: I've used it for so long I may have utterly forgotten that I was using closed source graphics driver though18:08
nemoI may have installed that like 4 years ago out of desparation18:08
nemo*desperation18:08
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tomreynGazooo: first of all it'd be good to check whether everything stops working, including the kernel, or just some processes. syslog should tell whether the kernel was and systemd were still operating fine.18:27
naccnemo: so you're not on ubuntu now?18:31
naccGazooo: i would recommend you set up a serial console18:31
tomreynGazooo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash18:31
nemonacc: well, I am on a number of machines, but not this one - this one was an experimental transition - I attempted first to see if I could do a live migration from ubuntu 14.04 to devuan ascii - which failed fairly miserably, although not for wont of trying. so I wiped it and did a clean install.  I decided to drop by here to find out if possibly ubuntu had additional monitor info, but seems I was on totally18:33
nemothe wrong track18:33
nemonacc: my eventual plan is to shift all the remaining 14.04 to devuan tho, sorry..18:33
naccnemo: right, so migrating to devuan would be offtopic here, and so would switching to it.18:39
nemonacc: yeah, I know. as noted, I came here simply to find out if ubuntu had its own monitor database.  but it was just because, as noted, I was totally off target in what was going on18:41
nemonacc: I was trying to keep it on that target, but then TJ- helpfully offered some X11 support which I gratefully took him up on18:42
nemonacc: so now I know I have a driver problem18:42
naccnemo: cool18:42
nemonacc: and, FWIW, looks like this dude who I found on askubuntu https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100743  has 'sact same problem18:45
ubottuFreedesktop bug 100743 in Driver/Radeon "Support for Radeon HD 6970M" [Normal,Reopened]18:45
nemomight need to submit a patch18:45
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FreeBDSMhello19:07
FreeBDSMwhen I click on a link from skype - it opens chromium without my profile19:07
FreeBDSMhow to fix that?19:07
nemoFreeBDSM: since no one is answering here..19:21
nemoFreeBDSM: I have no familiarity w/ chromium due to a strong antipathy but my guess would be separate chrome/chromium instances or... separate profiles? I think they have that now?19:21
nemoFreeBDSM: maybe some clue in ~/.config ?  like having both chrome and chromium in there?19:22
pragmaticenigmaFreeBDSM: Is skyped installed as a Snap?19:22
FreeBDSMah, turns out I use a snap'd version of skype19:22
FreeBDSMyeah19:22
nemohah19:22
pragmaticenigmaFreeBDSM: Applications running in a snap run in a protected environment. So when Skype requests a URL handler to open a web page, that application inherits the same environment as Skype19:23
FreeBDSMthat sucks19:24
FreeBDSMbut I guess it's still better than having skype installed into the system19:24
pragmaticenigmaFirefox operates in a shared environment setting. If you had an instance of Firefox open, I think it would reuse that instance instead of launching a new one.19:25
FreeBDSMmozilla ruined Firefox, I find it no longer usable and I had to switch from Firefox (I stayed with it since ~ v1.5 up until 57) to Chromium19:26
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cim209hello i am wondering if my machine is using two GPUs at once https://pastebin.com/WDLXzFKe19:49
pragmaticenigmacim209: take a look at the output of: lspci -vnnn | perl -lne 'print if /^\d+\:.+(\[\S+\:\S+\])/' | grep VGA19:51
pragmaticenigmacim209:  look for the [VGA controller] at the end of each device. Whichever device has it, is the active GPU.19:52
cim209ok hold on19:52
cim209pragmaticenigma, it's both19:53
pragmaticenigmacim209: Or just go to Settings => Details => About and check what is listed under Graphics19:53
cim209graphics says AMD Turks19:54
pragmaticenigmaTHen the AMD card is the currently active card19:55
cim209when i use vgaswitcheroo, it says permission denied19:55
pragmaticenigmacim209: are you running it as sudo?19:56
cim209yeah19:57
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cim209i'm lookign at the docs19:58
cim209for hybrid graphics19:58
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cim209the file /etc/init.d/rc.local doesn't exist19:58
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solracHello :o I'm in need of some help regarding an Elantech ETPS/2 Touchpad. It's detected but it's not working. Its only detected when I add the i8042 options in the grub, but even after installing libinput (instead of synaptic) it still doesn't seem to work. But I do get an error in dmesg https://pastebin.com/41ytRaJq19:59
blip99The ZSH version on ubuntu is really outdated, I'm confused why that is.  Ubuntu 18.04 still running ZSH 5.4.220:00
blip99The reason I care, is that oh-my-zsh seems to require zsh 5.5 https://github.com/robbyrussell/oh-my-zsh/wiki/Installing-ZSH20:01
naccblip99: 18.10 has 5.520:01
solracanyone @u@20:02
nacc!latest | blip9920:02
ubottublip99: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.20:02
pragmaticenigma!patience | solrac20:02
ubottusolrac: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/20:02
solracty20:02
blip99!backports20:02
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging20:02
blip99nacc, thanks20:03
naccblip99: yw20:03
blip99!sru20:05
ubottuStable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates20:05
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subcoolThe local folder exists... whats going on? --- subcool@HP-m7:/mnt$ sudo mount //192.168.1.42:mnt/Storage/Programs /mnt/Programs20:14
subcool mount: /mnt/Programs: bad option; for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program.20:14
subcool<subcool> Im trying to add this to my FSTAB.20:14
subcool<subcool> /192.168.1.42/mnt/Storage/Programs  /mnt/Programs cifs credentials=/etc/samba/credentials 0 0 -- Results in error:  sudo mount -a mount error(2): No such file or directory Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)20:14
blackflowsubcool: //192 ....   (double forward slashes)20:15
naccsubcool: if you added the correct entry to your fstab, then you just specify the mount point to `mount`20:16
naccsubcool: either give all the options on the commandline, or give just the mountpoint to mount (where fstab has the appropriate options)20:16
naccsubcool: also, use a pastebin to dump commands and output. line breaks make it hard to read20:17
subcoolnacc, not sure i completely understand20:28
naccsubcool: which part?20:29
subcoolyour first line.20:29
subcoolblackflow, sorry, thats just how it got pasted. It is //20:29
naccsubcool: if you have a fstab line describing how to mount /path/to/mountpoint, you just tell `mount` to mount it, like: `mount /path/to/mountpoint`20:30
subcoolso in fstab put "mount //address/share       /local/folder etc"20:30
naccno.20:31
naccsubcool: 'mount' never goes in fstab20:31
TJ-subcool: do you have "cifs-utils" installed for "mount.cifs" ?20:31
naccsubcool: you wrote above that you ran `sudo mount //192.168.1.42:mnt/Storage/Programs /mnt/Programs`. If you have a fstab line for /mnt/programs, that was an incorrect invocation of `mount`.20:32
TJ-subcool: on the remote server, you realize that :mnt/Storage/Programs will be relative to the connecting user? do you really mean to use :/mnt/Storage/Programs ?20:33
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subcoolnacc, yeah, thats what im not getting.20:34
naccsubcool: 'that'?20:34
subcoolTJ - doubtful. lol. this is a fresh install.20:34
subcoolnacc, are you trying to say to simply CLI the mount command and test the location? - i have. it errors too.20:35
subcoolTJ-, the directions indicated i didnt have to put ":" - but i added it trying to make it work.20:35
naccsubcool: it's always better to make sure you can `mount` without fstab before adding it to fstab, yes.20:36
subcoolTJ-, yes, cifs-utils are installed.20:36
subcoolnacc, yes, i have tried to do that. pretty much same error.20:36
naccsubcool: use a pastebin and show your exact output and command. You might also need to comment out lines in fstab to ensure they aren't adding options.20:36
subcoolsudo mount //192.168.1.42:/mnt/Storage/Programs /mnt/Programs | pastebinit20:37
subcoolmount: /mnt/Programs: bad option; for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program.20:37
subcoolYou are trying to send an empty document, exiting.20:37
naccsubcool: you need to redirect stderr to stdout20:38
TJ-subcool: I think your ":" is wrong; on the remote server, is the directory you want to mount /mnt/Storage/Programs ?20:38
naccsubcool: that line doesn't make sense20:38
naccsubcool: you aren't telling it filesystem type or options.20:38
naccsubcool: again, you *either* need to put everything in fstab and specify only a mountpoint or put everything on the commandline and don't put it in fstab. Stop mixing syntax.20:39
TJ-subcool: try this: "sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.42/mnt/Storage/Programs /mnt/Programs"20:41
subcoolTJ-, yes, that is the directory im mounting from the remote server. the error appears to erroring the local location.20:42
subcoolnacc, i agree, but some of the syntax doesnt make sense. or might cause issue. The directions gave me instances of user, gid and something else.20:43
naccsubcool: if you agree, why are you doing it in a way that's different?20:43
naccsubcool: i think TJ- has you on this one, but it appears to be user error20:43
subcoolnacc, because i usualy dont have to put so much in the fstab. - i dont disagree its user error, but - it still doesnt work.20:44
subcoolThe code he just gave me shouldve worked...20:44
subcoolsudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.42/mnt/Storage/Programs /mnt/Programs20:45
subcoolPassword for root@//192.168.1.42/mnt/Storage/Programs:  **********20:45
subcoolmount error(2): No such file or directory20:45
subcoolRefer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)20:45
naccsubcool: please use a pastebin. (even if it means manual c&p)20:45
TJ-subcool: is the remote actually sharing /mnt/Storage/Programs? Can any other devices see/mount that share?20:45
TJ-subcool: locally /mnt/Programs/ exists as a directory on a read-write file-system?20:47
subcoolTJ-, yes.. i just ssh'd into it20:47
TJ-subcool: that doesn't seem to answer my question. SSH is not going to prove if 1.42 is actually offering the share on the network20:48
subcoolOh, ok. well. Yes. i can open dolphin and goto \\192.168.1.4220:48
subcoollocal - drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct  2 14:30 Programs20:49
TJ-subcool: that's a better test :)20:50
TJ-subcool: on the server you can also use "smbstatus --shares"20:50
subcoolStorage      96125   192.168.1.116 Mon Oct  1 10:45:21 2018 PDT     -            -20:51
TJ-subcool: if Dolphin can successfully mount the share, use "grep 42 /proc/mounts" to get the mount command/options used20:54
subcoolTJ-, results were empty.20:57
subcoolsmb://192.168.1.42/ --- is the "url" in dolphin20:57
outoftimeI have gparted installed, have no live iso and internet connection. How to split root partition "/"?21:03
naccoutoftime: what do you mean by 'split'?21:04
naccoutoftime: in general, what you are asking is not possible for an actively used partition.21:04
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outoftimenacc: need free space for another distro nearby21:04
naccoutoftime: splitting the partition isn't all you need to do then, you need to resize the filesystem, and the partition it is on.21:05
naccoutoftime: which means you can't be using it while you are doing htat21:05
TJ-outoftime: does the OS use a separate /boot/ file-system ?21:06
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outoftimetj-, I have 2 partitions for root and home21:07
outoftimetj-,I have installed grub, everything works perfectly21:08
TJ-outoftime: there is an (involved) method, if there is a separate /boot/ file-system, to insert tooling into the initial ramdisk image, that would allow you to resize/partition from the initrd. But as you don't have that, the point is moot21:09
outoftimetj-, how much space boot could take?21:12
subcoolTJ nacc - I have to reboot a few things.. brb.21:18
outoftimebroken 3g connection21:19
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c0fehas ubuntu 18.04 got rid of ufw? I am getting this error when I try to set ufw policies: https://hastebin.com/pevimiyavi.rb21:38
naccc0fe: that module exists just fine here21:46
naccc0fe: does this file exist? /lib/modules/4.15.0-36-generic/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6_tables.ko21:47
c0fenacc: nope, no ip6_tables.ko21:48
naccc0fe: `apt-cache policy linux-modules-4.15.0-36-generic` in a pastebin?21:49
c0fenacc: https://hastebin.com/ameyakefop.cs21:50
naccc0fe: `dpkg -L linux-modules-4.15.0-36-generic | grep ip6_tables` in a pastebin21:51
c0fenacc: https://hastebin.com/igociduzuy21:52
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naccc0fe: and you are sure that file does not exist on the filesystem? did apt-get recently fail on a command by any chance?21:52
c0fenacc: not in the directory you listed21:53
c0fenacc: i am sure21:53
naccc0fe: in the directory tht you just pastebinned?21:54
c0fenacc: no21:54
c0fenacc: there are two: 4.15.0-29-generic  4.15.0-36-generic21:54
naccc0fe: as in, `ls -ahl /lib/modules/4.15.0-36-generic/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/ip6_tables.ko; ls -ahl /lib/modules/4.15.0-36-generic/kernel/net/ipv6/netfilter/`21:54
naccin a pastebin, plese21:55
c0fenacc: https://hastebin.com/fuvufekufo.diff21:55
naccc0fe: ... so it does exist21:56
naccat the exact path21:56
c0fenacc: not in 4.15.0-36-generic21:57
naccc0fe: it's not supposed to be in that path, and i never mentioned that path.21:57
naccc0fe: it's supposed to be exactly where it is. now, does /lib/modules/4.15.0-36-generic/modules.dep.bin exist ?21:57
c0fenacc: https://hastebin.com/enolemimuc.css21:58
naccc0fe: is that in /lib/modules/4.15.0-36-generic ?21:59
c0fenacc: yes21:59
naccc0fe: are you doing this in a container or anything funky?21:59
naccc0fe: modprobe said it couldn't open that file21:59
naccc0fe: can you use `ls -ahl` and pastebin?22:00
c0fenacc: this is on my host machine that is on baremetal but it is running lxd22:00
naccc0fe: is it a privileged container?22:00
c0fenacc: https://hastebin.com/jukovusuxe.css22:00
naccc0fe: i think you have a rather significant misunderstanding of how containers work :(22:00
c0fenacc: i am running these commands on my baremetal server22:00
c0fethe hypervisor if you will22:01
naccc0fe: oh ok.22:01
c0fenacc: https://hastebin.com/jukovusuxe.css22:01
naccc0fe: i meant `ls -ahl /lib/modules/4.15.0-36-generic`22:01
naccc0fe: so 'test' is the name of your barmetal server?22:01
c0fenacc: https://hastebin.com/getolupiju.diff22:01
c0fenacc: no, it is one of the vm's that's running in lxd22:02
c0fenacc: name of server is just server22:02
naccc0fe: ...22:02
naccc0fe: ok, so please stop mixing systems up22:02
naccc0fe: https://hastebin.com/pevimiyavi.rb22:02
naccis what you showed as a symptom22:02
naccthat is running in a lxd?22:02
naccif so, then you have just used up a bunch of time that wasn't necessary. Containers don't load kernel modules generally, because that affects the *host* kernel.22:03
naccc0fe: and lxd container != vm.22:03
c0feits been a long22:03
c0feday22:03
c0fesorry nacc22:03
c0fei appreciate the attempt to help22:03
naccc0fe: it's ok, get some rest and start again tmrw :)22:03
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snuknhi, im having some issues trying to install my arcade stick in 18.0422:46
snukni've googled a bit but only found stuff for older releases22:47
snuknwould really appreciate it if anyone could help :)22:47
tomreynsnukn: what's an arcade stick? an input device?22:53
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tomreynseems to be something like a joystick. how is it connected? via usb? if so, connect it and run this command, then post the http address here: lsusb | pastebinit22:55
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snuknhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jDDG3WV9ZT/22:57
snukndont know which one it is22:57
tomreynsnukn: run "dmesg -wT" and unplug / replug it, this will tell22:58
snuknhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B2KH8b5sXs/22:59
snuknits the dragon rice22:59
snukndragonrise :D22:59
tomreynsnukn: maybe try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/26772/dragonrise-usb-gamepad-not-working23:03
tomreynBus 002 Device 014 in your case23:03
tomreyngeneral configuration notes on joysticks / gamepads: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gamepad23:04
subcoolOk - ive been in #freenas for a min. and tried a couple things. Idk whats up with the fstab and mount- but im pretty sure something is up with my Filesystem. SOmething is wrong with my directory /mnt/Programs23:07
snuknwell i think i calibrated it atleast23:09
snuknbut I still dont know how to get it to work on steam23:09
snuknTo realy see on which path your device is use cat /proc/bus/input/devices23:09
snuknI did that and it showed up23:09
subcoolThis is the read out of my Directory. - drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct  2 14:30 Programs23:09
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subcoolnacc, starting to figure it out, i have a fresh install, so - i didnt have nfs install, samba at first.. lol...23:26
naccsubcool: :)23:30
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