lubot<kc2bez> sorry for the weird one.00:00
Wafficussomeone said to use lynx instead of w3m in terminal, but I wanted to know a smaller memory hog one for GUI web browsing00:00
WafficusI hate the depending on Chrome on this comp tbh00:00
wxlwell it depends on what you want it to do00:00
wxli mean, dillo is pretty small00:01
wxlbut the web is run on javascript00:01
wxlso maybe falkon or qutebrowser or something of the sort is a better choice00:01
Wafficusfalkon and qutebrowser, cool, will look in the lubuntu repo for that00:02
wxlright now falkon is default for 18.1000:02
wxlit's qt so since lxde is largely gtk and not qt, it will mean pulling in some qt libs. qutebrowser too00:02
wxlxombrero used to be a thing but i don't know where it went00:03
wxl@VikingRedwolf likes opera but i doubt that's light00:03
wxl@kc2bez i don't think that's too strange, actually00:03
Wafficushmm, btw did anyone figure out what the default mirror should be for the getcountry() function?00:04
Wafficusor rather00:04
Wafficuswhoops poorly phrased00:04
Wafficusthat has to deal with getmirror()00:04
WafficusI guess I have to add a timeout block to make the computer wait for the country right00:04
wxl^^ @tsimonq2 00:04
Wafficusdo we we need a try and except block for the getcountry() function?00:05
Wafficusisn't that only for the getmirror() function?00:05
wxlmirror calls country and country's the one that fails, so country00:05
Wafficusah ok00:05
Wafficusso I put the code that was previously placed into the try block00:05
Wafficusnow for the default except part00:05
Wafficusif in doubt, US lol?00:05
Wafficusor we have to assume other countries as well00:06
Wafficusor rather, the issue is to make a time out function00:06
Wafficusdo I have to consult the "REST api" for Python in this case?00:06
wxlbut 00:07
wxli don't know00:07
wxlno, the country is used to pick a mirror00:08
Wafficusso there is no default country then00:08
wxlwell we need to pick one00:08
wxli'd say pick the US00:08
Wafficuslike there would be no except clause other than saying "country not found"00:09
Wafficusyeah I was gonna say00:09
wxland oregon state university's mirros :)00:09
Wafficusgood idea00:09
Wafficusdidn't know we mirror from that university00:09
wxlthey mirror everything00:09
WafficusI knew a transfer student at the college I went to that went there00:09
Wafficusmega cute00:09
Wafficuslets see00:09
Wafficusdefault mirror should be oregon state university mirrors huh00:09
Wafficusmakes sense00:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#164900:10
wxli wish lugito showed diffs00:10
lubot<HMollerCl> @Wafficus [<Wafficus> question regarding lxterminal, so is it possible to full screen it?], F1100:21
lubot<HMollerCl> the best I have done00:22
WafficusHMollerCl: but how do I get rid of the menu at the top too?00:24
Wafficuslike to hide it00:24
WafficusThanks though for the F11 trick, appreciate it a ton00:24
lubot<HMollerCl> @Wafficus [<Wafficus> HMollerCl: but how do I get rid of the menu at the top too?], I don't  think it can be done. Can't you use tty? (ctrl+alt+f1 f2, f3....f6) com back to x with ctr+alt+f700:26
wxlPreferences > Display > Hide menu bar00:28
Wafficusyeah I just got back to this00:29
Wafficusthat was a trip00:29
WafficusI didn't even know you could do that00:29
Wafficusthats crazy00:29
wxlyou mean virtual terminals?00:29
Wafficusyeah whatever the hell that was00:29
Wafficusctrl + alt + f100:29
WafficusI thought I totally screwed up my computer00:29
Wafficusis that lxterminal?00:29
wxlbe warned: that's not running in x00:30
Wafficusor is that something else00:30
Wafficusyeah I assumed00:30
WafficusI kinda like that00:30
wxlsomething altogether different00:30
Wafficuspure terminal baby :)00:30
Wafficusmaybe that's the solution to my other laptop00:30
Wafficuskeep X for boot00:30
Wafficusbut immediately go into virtual terminal00:30
wxlor just don't even boot into x00:31
wxluse it iff. you need it00:31
Wafficusyeah I got an old Acer Aspire 3690 with 512 meg ram, considering just having purely terminals on that00:33
WafficusI tried looking at what "ubuntu server" distro I needed yesterday but was confused ha00:33
tsimonq2Wafficus: D24 is waiting on upstream. Blaming agaida. XD00:34
wxlno hell with that00:34
tsimonq2The package LITERALLY WON'T INSTALL.00:34
wxlwhen that fix comes, we can mvoe it back00:34
wxlwhat are you talking about?00:35
tsimonq2lxqt-globalkeys and lubuntu-default-settings would be impossible to ship at the same time.00:35
tsimonq2Two binaries can't ship the same files.00:35
tsimonq2lxqt-globalkeys already ships the files.00:35
tsimonq2Which means we either have to hack up the LXQt package or we have to wait for upstream to do XDG properly.00:35
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Which means we either have to hack up the LXQt package or we have to …], that's for Super_L ?00:36
wxloh god. well reading their bug the latter is not coming any time soon00:36
wxlyes @HMollerCl and any other changes we want to make to keys00:36
wxland that's the thing --- we WILL want to make changes00:36
wxlso i vote hacking lxqt then :/00:36
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm pretty sure that my installation from mid august had Super_L as default00:36
lubot<HMollerCl> I tyhink I can download again right?00:36
tsimonq2I really can't do that in good conscious, but I can close my eyes and whistle if you get a change sponsored to lxqt-globalkeys by another Ubuntu developer. :P00:36
lubot<HMollerCl> to test it and see what cahanged?00:37
lubot<TheWendyPower> It is very annoying for the main menu shortcut default to be set to Alt+F100:37
wxlwell then i guess we can kiss globalkeys changes goodbye00:37
tsimonq2Faulty logic. :P00:37
wxlnot for a while at least00:38
tsimonq2Find how other LXQt packages just pull from XDG settings, and then make PRs upstream to lxqt-globalkeys.00:38
wxlgo for it00:38
tsimonq2For someone who isn't familiar with the codebase, probably a 2-3 hour job.00:38
wxlcuz i'm sure if the developers of the actual software can't figure it out, joe pleeb sure can00:38
tsimonq2agaida is just lazy00:39
Wafficuswxl: So its time.sleep(10) for 10 seconds in Python00:39
wxl@HMollerCl there's only a day or two of images available, sorry00:39
Wafficusdid you want that BEFORE localdata gets initialized00:39
Wafficusor after00:39
wxl@tsimonq2: no, the bug is something he made because he wants it changed00:39
Wafficusin automirror's main.py?00:39
wxlWafficus: no, no. urllib.request has a timeout option00:39
tsimonq2Wafficus: See palinek's comment.00:39
tsimonq2wxl: YOU.00:39
tsimonq2wxl: 07:42:07 PM <+agaida> and it should be easy to implement - but not for me :D00:43
tsimonq2I TOLD YOU DO00:43
wxlok well whos' going to do it? apparently no one cares00:43
tsimonq2You apparently care.00:43
wxls/no one/no one with sufficient skill and knowledge of the code/00:44
tsimonq2It's just C++00:44
wxlthen knock yourself out00:44
wxlor we just change the default in lxqt-globalkeys and problem solved00:44
tsimonq2Knock yourself out; the packaging's in Phab.00:46
Wafficushey so I'm looking at that link:00:48
WafficusI don't see a comment that told me to look into urllib.request() for a timeout section00:48
WafficusI will anyway00:48
Wafficusbut am I not on the same page?00:48
wxlthere's not a timeout section. it's an option to urllib.request00:48
wxllike it's a feature of urllib.request itself00:48
wxlgot a solution to the problem @TheWendyPower00:52
lubot<TheWendyPower> @wxl........ 😏00:53
wxl@TheWendyPower blame me. I didn't knwo two binaries couldn't provide the same file.00:54
Wafficuswxl: Hey check out my pastebin:00:54
Wafficuswxl: https://pastebin.com/YyvW7Ym200:54
Wafficuswxl: is that what you wanted using the 'timeout' parameter?00:54
tsimonq2Anyone else have botched networking with the daily under QEMU?00:59
lubot<TheWendyPower> @wxl I'll just go back to working on the slide show... [whispers to myself] It is much safer there... 😉01:00
tsimonq2Good work!01:00
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl now I will try the calamares thing01:01
lubot<HMollerCl> on a vm01:01
Wafficuswxl: hey man, did you check out my paste bin above?01:01
lubot<HMollerCl> mmm @wxl it's taking pretty long on unsquash filesystem01:15
lubot<HMollerCl> at least now it is in 22% before was in 21%.01:17
lubot<HMollerCl> create locale01:20
lubot<HMollerCl> 39%01:21
lyorian@HmollerCI unsquash seems to take a long time01:29
lyoriantsimonq2:  live session or installed?01:31
lyoriantsimonq2: I have it working fine with virtio nic 01:31
lubot<HMollerCl> and error01:32
lyorianin the live session01:32
lubot<HMollerCl> yes01:33
wxl@TheWendyPower https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-cosmic-cuttlefish-release-parties/822801:34
wxl@HMollerCl what error? pastebin the logs if you can01:37
wxlman i wish Wafficus would just stay put XD01:37
lubot<HMollerCl> (Photo, 375x286) https://i.imgur.com/pABdcrI.jpg01:37
lubot<HMollerCl> never used pastebin what should I do?01:37
wxl@TheWendyPower so you're giving up? :(01:37
wxl@HMollerCl `cat somefile | pastebinit`01:38
wxldid you copy and paste @HMollerCl? that might be the issue. python is really picky about indentation01:39
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> did you copy and paste @HMollerCl? that might be the issue. python is real …], ok, that can be01:40
wxl@HMollerCl here's the raw file you can just replace it ith https://phab.lubuntu.me/file/data/tkqb45bqwzr2kzcz6vtl/PHID-FILE-6gnqqtxh3ra6vc6mgajb/common_modules_automirror_main.py01:40
lubot<TheWendyPower> @wxl goodness no I'm not giving up! I am drinking an adult beverage and making dinner for my husband and 4 children. :-)01:40
wxl@TheWendyPower ok good because you did really good and you're almost done!!!!01:40
wxlalthough the thought of wendy coding drunk…01:41
lubot<TheWendyPower> Hahahahahaha01:41
lyoriandon't spill the adult beverage on your computer01:41
lubot<TheWendyPower> It isn't going near the computer... I just can't have another ruined keyboard right now. 😁01:43
lubot<TheWendyPower> I may have to get one of those.....01:45
wxli hear that adult diapers help, too, since you don't have to bother getting up XD01:45
lubot<TheWendyPower> I've changed diapers for 4 kids, I'm done with diapers!!!!01:47
wxloh you don't have to tell me twice and i only have one01:48
lubot<TheWendyPower> LOL!01:49
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl here's the raw file you can just replace it ith https://phab.lu …], ok, starting all again, btw, now the system only gave me the manual partition option01:50
wxl@HMollerCl if that's the case you should quit calamares and look at your disk set up with e.g. `lsblk`. chances are you have a swap partition mounted. run `swapoff /path/to/swap` and then run calamares and it will work01:51
lubot<HMollerCl> I did the manual partition, manual erase and created01:52
lubot<HMollerCl> the installation ended w/p problems02:13
lubot<HMollerCl> w/o02:14
wxl@HMollerCl that's a good sign. can you send the logs over?02:15
wxli don't remember if there's timing info in there. 02:15
lubot<HMollerCl> mmmm, y did the reset after installation. Can I recover them?02:16
wxlmaaaaybe. look in ~/.config02:16
lubot<HMollerCl> don't see anything. But to be honest, during the installation I didn't found logs in .config either02:18
wxloh they're there somewhere02:19
lubot<HMollerCl> apparently I will have to instal again02:23
lubot<kc2bez> Are you looking for calamares logs? maybe /var/log/installer/02:24
lubot<HMollerCl> will look there02:24
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl I think I have some logs. How can I send it to you?02:32
wxlsorry i meant ~/.cache not ~/.config02:32
wxlyou can put it on paste.ubuntu.com or share.riseup.net or wherever..... or just `cat file | pastebinit` and give me the url02:33
wxlhere's my log i just finished https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j3r4jmHfCY/02:33
wxlif you go to automirro you can i pass through the automirror in like a second02:34
wxlless than that, really02:35
lubot<HMollerCl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CjpCr7krjW/02:38
lubot<HMollerCl> hope this help02:39
wxlhm that seems to be the bad one02:39
wxloh wait no i'm wrong02:39
wxlthe good one follows02:39
wxlso it took about 3 seconds for you02:39
lubot<HMollerCl> yup, the two02:40
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, I need to sleep. Good night.02:41
wxlthanks be well!02:41
wxloh it looks like the timeout thing might not be an issue. looks like without specifying it has no timeout! https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29649173/what-is-the-global-default-timeout#2964963802:43
lyoriannight @HmollerCI03:12
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lubot<VikingRedwolf> @wxl [<wxl> @VikingRedwolf likes opera but i doubt that's light], I'm liking Epiphany more and more lately, but I need security plugins in my life. And the sync feature of Opera is perfect, including the speed dials. Firefox 's bookmarks are awful. But yes, being a Chromium thingie it's not that fast loading, but it is rendering03:58
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wxlnew trojita coming down the pike. with all of agaida's debian packaging. this should be good. 06:24
wxlok trojita 0.7-0ubuntu1ppa4 has now successfully built and is publishing as we speak. go test everyone! https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/testy-testy06:35
wxl@tsimonq2: any idea if those luks/encryption changes made it into calamares and what patches we want to pull down if they have?06:41
wxlugh trojita is almost there06:43
wxli'm in this weird catch-22 trying to deal with lintian errors but the solution is to move libtrojita_plugins.so from /usr/lib/trojita to /usr/lib06:44
wxlok ppa5 on the way should fix that07:04
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wxlnow i got to bed07:08
lubot<kc2bez> @wxl I tested trojita. Everything seems to work as expected for me. Install went fine and I was able to send and receive emails. I think you got it!10:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#165012:28
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#165112:30
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: Set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#165112:30
wxl[m]Thanks @kc2bez!14:04
wxl[m]See that task T81 above if you have objections about swapping Falkon for Firefox folks14:06
lubot<TheWendyPower> I have no objection.14:07
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T86: Reorganizations of official titles] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T86#165314:21
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: Set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#165514:32
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T72: Fix HTML for lubuntu-devel list] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T72#165714:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T72: Fix HTML for lubuntu-devel list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T72#165814:36
wxl[m]Who else has tried Trojitá?14:47
lubot<TheWendyPower> I've not tried it but I can.14:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: Set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#166015:03
lubot<tsimonq2> There, I've sort of laid down a foundation for Lubuntu governance.15:08
wxl@tsimonq2: a switch? really? because you said we were waiting on a new release15:32
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: a switch? really? because you said we were waiting on a new rel …], What?15:35
wxl@tsimonq2: encryption15:35
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah, the release was done aaaages ago15:36
lubot<tsimonq2> We haven't been waiting for a while15:36
* wxl sighs15:37
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Who else has tried Trojitá?], how should I install it? apt install?15:37
lubot<tsimonq2> @lubuntu_bot [*wxl: sighs*], Love you too. Now go enable LVM in a live image and try an install!15:37
wxl@HMollerCl `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt install trojita`15:37
wxl@tsimonq2: well first i have to figure out flipping the switch, right? also you're pinging the bot.15:38
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: well first i have to figure out flipping the switch, right? als …], I'm not pinging the bot, just replying to you... The switch is in the docs15:39
lubot<tsimonq2> I don't know offhand15:39
wxlh0837 < lubot:#lubuntu-devel> <tsimonq2> @lubuntu_bot [*wxl:15:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Bah15:39
wxlthis is the switch? https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/v3.2.2/src/modules/partition/partition.conf#L6215:41
lubot<tsimonq2> I dunno, try it :)15:42
wxlyou seem to have expressed some understanding about this. i know nothing about it.15:42
lubot<tsimonq2> Me neither. I just RTFM'ed.15:46
wxlthen you should be able to say yay or nay, no?15:46
wxlanyways i guess you'll be of little help15:46
wxlwhy do we have neverCreateSwap to true? this ensure suspend basically won't work15:46
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> why do we have neverCreateSwap to true? this ensure suspend basically won' …], Because Ubuntu does swapfiles15:52
lubot<tsimonq2> I dunno15:52
lubot<HMollerCl> You can't suspend with swapfiles???? only swap partition?15:56
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [You can't suspend with swapfiles???? only swap partition?], You can15:56
wxl@HMollerCl no, you can. i didn't recognize that fact 15:56
lubot<tsimonq2> Which is why we don't need a partition15:56
lubot<HMollerCl> that si my understading too.15:56
lubot<tsimonq2> I also think wxl is confusing suspend with hibernate. You can suspend without swap, you can't hibernate without swap.15:57
lubot<tsimonq2> And hibernate has been disabled for aaaages.15:57
lubot<HMollerCl> but you can enable it.15:57
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [but you can enable it.], Can you?15:57
lubot<tsimonq2> Also wxl I really want to know your thoughts on the whole LC proposal15:58
wxlsuspend needs ram, hibernate needs disk15:58
wxl@tsimonq2: it's fine but i'd consider dealing with the iso as a little more important15:59
lubot<tsimonq2> Mkay15:59
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [Can you?], yes, I did that. From what I know ubuntu disabled hibernation for computers NOT certified for lubuntu.16:00
lubot<HMollerCl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/361734/hibernation-is-still-missing-from-menu-in-13-10-after-enabling-via-polkit-how-t/362499#36249916:00
lubot<HMollerCl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation16:00
wxlalthought https://lwn.net/Articles/764841/16:02
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Wafficuswxl: Did you see the pastebin I did last night, wxl?17:12
lubot<HMollerCl> has anyone tried wine in 18.10?17:15
wxlWafficus: i sent you a memo17:16
lubot<TheWendyPower> No I have not, but I've thougt about loading up Steam.17:16
lubot<HMollerCl> In my installation from august, after  ... sudo apt install wine17:16
lubot<HMollerCl> when I run wine it says:17:16
lubot<HMollerCl> it looks like wine32 is missing, you should install it. ... as root, please execute "apt-get install wine32"17:17
Wafficuswxl: On phab?17:17
Wafficuswxl: If its through IRC's private messaging, how do I access my IRC inbox?17:17
wxlWafficus: /msg memoserv 17:17
wxlyou should have got it when you logged in17:18
wxlmight have not noticed it in the spew17:18
wxlwhile you're at it go try trojita: `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt install trojita && trojita`17:18
Wafficusgot your memo17:19
Wafficuswhat's trojita?17:20
WafficusI'm accessing freenode via browser at work, so I'm not any particular machine tbh17:20
wxlour email client for 18.1017:21
wxli just finally got it packaged in a reasonable state17:21
wxlalready have one +1 on it but i need as many eyes on it as possible17:21
wxlword of warning though: imap only17:21
Wafficuswxl: Ah gotcha, yeah I'll install it on my Lubuntu laptop at home17:24
Wafficuswhat's imap?17:24
wxlmost likely, the email protocol you're used to17:26
WafficusI do defaults for lubuntu17:31
Wafficusso I have no idea lol17:31
wxlwell i think that claws or whatevre it was that we shipped could do either17:32
wxland in other news looks like we have kernels stuck in proposed keeping our images from building17:32
wxlso take a break from testing images and test trojita :)17:33
wxlyeah sylpheed does pop3, imap up to 4rev1, smtp (duh, that's sending) as well as nntp (news)17:34
wxltrojita's not that cool.17:34
wxlbut i'm not the world's biggest fan of pop. it has its value, but i don't need it.17:34
Wafficuswell I'll take a break when I finally fix that function's timing issue17:39
Wafficusor whatever you want then htough17:39
WafficusI just want to make sure its solved17:39
WafficusI always just use outlook in browser, I've never used mail clients in an OS ever17:39
Wafficusjust only in a browser tab17:39
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl, just confiigured an IMAP account. There is no "authentication failed" message17:40
wxlactually i'm thinking the timeout is a red herring17:40
WafficusI would want to learn mutt though17:40
wxli don't remember if i sent you that17:40
Wafficusyeah you said that17:40
wxlinfinity is a long time out17:40
wxlmutt rules.17:40
WafficusI could never find out how to change the default email though through their man page17:40
wxl@HMollerCl you configured this through trojita?17:40
WafficusI tried waiting in #mutt too but no response17:40
Wafficus*for Lubuntu17:40
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl you configured this through trojita?], yes17:41
wxlusually update-alternatives will do the trick17:41
wxl@HMollerCl how do you know you were suppossed to get an authentication failed message? maybe you put in the right password after all? XD17:41
lubot<HMollerCl> I had to open a "IMAP protocol" window to see the problem17:42
lubot<HMollerCl> And it is still trying to connect, how can I stop it?17:42
wxlthat i'm not sure of17:45
lubot<HMollerCl> tring to reply an e-mail I got: APPEND ha fallado: Client tried to access nonexistent namespace. (Mailbox name should probably be prefixed with: INBOX.) (0.001 + 0.000 secs).17:48
lubot<HMollerCl> really don't get what should be prefixed with INBOX.17:48
wxlwhere did you make an account at?17:49
wxli don't even get how you can make an account17:54
wxlseems like all you can do is add an existing one17:54
lubot<HMollerCl> I'm confused between make an account and add an existing one.18:19
lubot<HMollerCl> In making an account are you thinking in a server?18:19
wxlwell in thunderbird you can sign up for an account on e.g. gmail, in addition to simply entering your information for an account that already exists at gmail18:19
lubot<HMollerCl> aaa, I don't know thata. My trojita just crashed18:20
wxli don't think trojita can do much more than just enter an existing account18:20
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> i don't think trojita can do much more than just enter an existing account], I think the same18:20
wxlpost up the crash if you can18:21
wxlprobably something in /var/crash18:21
lubot<HMollerCl> got it but I can't connect to pastebinit18:24
wxlmaybe that's why trojita crashed: network issues18:24
lubot<HMollerCl> [Errno socket error] The write operation timed out18:26
wxlyeah that sounds like a network issue. can you `ping paste.ubuntu.com` ?18:27
lubot<HMollerCl> ING paste.ubuntu.com ( 56(84) bytes of data. ... 64 bytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com ( icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=217 ms ... 64 bytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com ( icmp_seq=2 ttl=43 time=224 ms ... 64 bytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com ( icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 time=217 ms ... 64 b18:27
lubotytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com ( icmp_seq=4 ttl=43 time=228 ms18:27
wxli'd try it again18:27
lubot<HMollerCl> still getting the same error, still able to ping paste.ubuntu.com18:35
wxl@HMollerCl what's the exact command you're using?18:36
lubot<HMollerCl> cat _usr_bin_trojita.1000.crash | pastebinit18:36
wxllet's try passing `-b paste.debian.net` to pastebinit18:37
lubot<HMollerCl> cat _usr_bin_trojita.1000.crash | pastebinit -b paste.debian.net18:38
lubot<HMollerCl> ??18:38
lubot<HMollerCl> same error18:38
wxlhuh it just dies18:38
wxlbizaare. open up paste.ubuntu.com and copy and paste it then XD18:39
lubot<HMollerCl> it gave me a 502 error18:43
wxlwell something is certainly not behaving right with your networking18:44
lubot<HMollerCl> after pasting the data, after I press the "paste" buton it give me 502 bad gateway18:45
lubot<HMollerCl> apparently wine has problems creating entries in the menu.18:46
wxlno suchn problems https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DxCvjpVxNs/18:46
wxleven more https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GPk2wW6bDx/18:47
lubot<HMollerCl> i will ry in the host system18:48
lubot<HMollerCl> yup, no problem there18:48
lubot<HMollerCl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Bv2rBjXC9K/18:48
lubot<HMollerCl> winecfg ... 001e:err:winecfg:open_mountmgr failed to open mount manager err 218:57
lubot<HMollerCl> not sure whta that means18:57
lubot<HMollerCl> is a wine error18:57
wxl[m]Isn't there a wine channel?18:58
wxl[m]Oh well probably not on Telegram18:58
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lubot<HMollerCl> 16:50:47.618 Submission gotError: APPEND ha fallado: Client tried to access nonexistent namespace. (Mailbox name should probably be prefixed with: INBOX.) (0.001 + 0.000 secs). ... 16:50:47.618 Submission STATE_FAILED19:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T60: Improved Wallpapers] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T60#167020:13
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl, @TheWendyPower: Can I get your thoughts on the LC stuff ASAP so I can get the ball rolling?20:32
lubot<TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 I've read through it a few times today. It sounds good to me.20:36
lubot<tsimonq2> Cool.20:36
lubot<tsimonq2> wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl20:36
lubot<tsimonq2> Waiting on wxl :)20:36
wxli already said go21:04
wxlbtw calamares seg faults trying to do luks21:05
wxlno clear response from anyone at #cala as to what the issue might be21:05
lubot<tsimonq2> Ah21:18
lubot<HMollerCl> Just checking current daily. @TheWendyPower 200px button is ok21:23
lubot<HMollerCl> Gtk theme enable is ok, screen grab is out21:23
lubot<HMollerCl> Only thing apparently doesn't work is to define gth-theme arc-darker. The override in gnome worked but adwaita still appears as default21:24
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [Only thing apparently doesn't work is to define gth-theme arc-darker. The overri …], So, LXQt isn't reading it correctly?21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> I will send what happens after installing it21:36
lubot<HMollerCl> *see21:36
lubot<HMollerCl> Nope, still puts adwaita21:51
lubot<HMollerCl> Apparently the .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini must exist21:52
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#167122:01
lubot<HMollerCl> the setting of default gtk-theme from gsettings was added on sept2. This should be taken into cosideration by 18.10 right?22:21
lubot<HMollerCl> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/pull/278/commits/10945b90c8d9a084977675bc8b1db158acd4c909#diff-b37764f38e63f6ed1fa485106bf34ccaR29422:22
wxli'm pretty sure i added that patch to mkpath if not exist22:24
wxlit's certainly something that came after the last release https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/compare/0.13.0...master22:25
wxlso you can see that's only part of it22:26
lubot<HMollerCl> so that's why it isn't working.22:29
lubot<HMollerCl> giving that, the only way I see we can define a default is to create .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini22:37
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#167222:42
wxl@HMollerCl you could pull the rest of that patch in if need be22:42
lubot<HMollerCl> how?22:43
wxluse that one as an example22:43
wxlmore or less you want to do this: grab the diff from github, import it with quilt, and there ya go22:43
wxlthat's what i did with that one22:43
lubot<HMollerCl> mm I will have to thinks about it to see if I understand it.22:44
wxli can walk you through it step by step if you need it22:44
wxli refer to the general concept in the packaging notes but i don't explain it. it's on the todo22:45
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks, now I have to go, will ping you when I have time.22:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#167322:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#167422:51
Wafficuswxl: hey I'm home. What did you want me to dl again? A new mailing client to test out right?22:51
tsimonq2Wafficus: You should also get a bouncer first. ;)22:51
Wafficustsimonq2: what's that my dude?22:52
Wafficustsimonq2: is that the "bot" magic you guys have going?22:52
tsimonq2Wafficus: wxl would love to explain.22:52
wxlWafficus: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt update && sudo apt install trojita && trojita22:53
Wafficuswxl: thanks will do right now22:53
WafficusI'm using that terminal console right now22:53
Wafficuskinda liking this a lot :)22:53
Wafficusway nicer than LxTerminal tbh22:54
Wafficusdo you guys know how to use the keyboard to select text in IRC without a mouse lol?22:54
WafficusI'm using weechat22:55
Wafficuslooking through the man page now in any case22:55
Wafficusdling the packages right now22:56
Wafficusfor trojita that is22:56
Wafficusso I installed it via that command22:58
Wafficusdo I just run it as "trojita" in bash?22:58
Wafficuswxl: 22:58
wxlor you can click on the right icon22:58
Wafficusah gotcha its x based22:59
Wafficusill be back in that case22:59
Wafficushey back23:03
Wafficusso I installed it on the terminal console window in F123:04
Wafficusnow im on the X window aka F723:04
WafficusI don't see the icon, do I have to reboot to see Trojita?23:04
Wafficus*like in any relevant menus in the start menu23:04
WafficusI'll try rebooting23:05
Wafficushey weird question23:09
Wafficuswhat's the default font in LxTerminal?23:09
Wafficusgot it its mono space23:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#167523:15
WafficusI don't see Trojita as an icon in my start menu23:19
Wafficusand whereis trojita doesn't work23:19
Wafficuswxl: 23:19
wxljust run it on the command line. we'll fix that later23:20
Wafficuscommand not found23:20
Wafficustrojita: command not found23:20
wxlthen you didn't install it right23:20
Wafficuscan you copy and paste that command again23:20
wxlsudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt update && sudo apt install trojita23:20
Wafficusits giving 404 Not Found [IP: 80] in one of the lines23:22
Wafficusim assuming that was just for one of the mirrors23:22
wxlfix your internets :)23:22
Wafficuswell if im on this23:22
Wafficusthen clearly my internet works23:22
wxlsome of it does at least23:22
Wafficuswhat is a command that i can put the output of my bash console into a text file23:23
Wafficuslike just use the arrow key right23:23
Wafficussudo add-apt-respository ppa:wxl/testy-testy > test.txt?23:24
WafficusI did that command and now I'm waiting23:25
WafficusI'm wondering how its gonna take the input for the Enter key23:25
Wafficusits just hanging for now23:25
wxlit probably won't23:26
Wafficusalright I'll just copy and paste it then23:26
lubot<kc2bez> It should show under the Internet category on your menu after you get it installed, it worked for me.23:26
wxlyou can use the -y switch23:26
wxl@kc2bez he is having more fundamental problems23:26
lubot<kc2bez> I see that. I just wanted to let you know @wxl that it did populate my menu.23:27
wxlyay :)23:27
Wafficus^ there's my output23:29
wxlWafficus: give us /etc/apt/sources.list23:30
lubot<kc2bez> Bionic?23:32
wxloh actually yeah23:32
wxlall kinds of broken things23:32
lubot<kc2bez> should be cosmic no?23:33
wxlwell he might be on bionic23:33
wxltrojita won't work on it, though23:33
wxlyou should open up a virtual machine and run it that way Wafficus 23:33
lubot<kc2bez> yeah I wondered.23:33
WafficusI only have 2 gigs of ram though wxl 23:34
wxllines 56 and 58 are duplicates23:36
WafficusI didn't think I could run vms on this thing :023:36
Wafficus4 gigs of ram rather sorry23:36
Wafficusnot 223:36
wxlalso if you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d you'll find files related to cool-retro-term and compton that should be removed 23:36
wxlso run a vm with 1gb of ram23:37
WafficusI've never done it :/23:37
wxlin any case you can't run trojita on bionic23:37
Wafficusdo I have to install vmware?23:37
Wafficusam I on Bionic?23:37
wxlvirtualbox would probably be easiest but if you can figure it out, virt-manager (kvm/qemu) would probably be a better use of resources23:37
wxllsb_release -a will tell you23:38
Wafficusah yeah I'm on bionic23:38
Wafficusso I have to download an iso of cosmic then?23:38
WafficusI have x86_6423:40
Wafficusso I'm assuming 32 bit release Cosmic right?23:40
Wafficusi'm on x84_64 right now23:40
wxlthat's 6423:41
Wafficusah gotcha23:41
Wafficusdling the iso23:41
Wafficusinstalling virtualbox23:41
Wafficusgonna be fun23:41
WafficusI kinda like the vm idea, never really did it23:41
WafficusI guess I love emulators too, so I've been doing it for a while without really realizing it haha23:42
Wafficusbut yeah when I get the ISO, just do a live disc boot of it right?23:42
Wafficusok i'll keep you updated23:45
Wafficuslike usual I kinda only have an hour at home so I'll hopefully get this done before 8:30 pm23:45
Wafficusonce I get it, run that command right, and make sure it installs23:45
Wafficusand just test it out right?23:45
wxlyeah, you shouldn't even need to install the system23:46
Wafficuscool will do23:47
Wafficusmakes me wanna distro hop a bit haha23:47
Wafficusjk, I still like Lubuntu a lot23:47
WafficusI tried Puppy like a month ago, ugh, somethings so jenky about that23:48
Wafficuslike i wanna like it for being able to run that fast, but damn, is the actual GUI menu just all over the place23:48
wxlthat is the ugly underarm pimple of linux23:48
Wafficusat least ours is elegant23:48
wxlANY other distro is better23:48
Wafficuswxl: I see you agree haha23:48
Wafficuswxl: What's your take on it?23:48
wxlit's gross and disgusting XD23:48
Wafficuswxl: I say its the menu that just isn't user friendly, its all over the place23:48
wxlunder the hood it's just bizarre too23:49
Wafficusbtw how do you leave a channel in IRC?23:49
Wafficusjust wanted to leave #linux for now23:49
wxl /part #channel23:49
WafficusI tried that23:50
WafficusI tried /part ##linux23:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#167623:54

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