| lubot | <kc2bez> sorry for the weird one. | 00:00 |
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| Wafficus | someone said to use lynx instead of w3m in terminal, but I wanted to know a smaller memory hog one for GUI web browsing | 00:00 |
| Wafficus | I hate the depending on Chrome on this comp tbh | 00:00 |
| wxl | well it depends on what you want it to do | 00:00 |
| wxl | i mean, dillo is pretty small | 00:01 |
| wxl | but the web is run on javascript | 00:01 |
| wxl | so maybe falkon or qutebrowser or something of the sort is a better choice | 00:01 |
| Wafficus | true | 00:02 |
| Wafficus | falkon and qutebrowser, cool, will look in the lubuntu repo for that | 00:02 |
| Wafficus | *those | 00:02 |
| wxl | right now falkon is default for 18.10 | 00:02 |
| wxl | it's qt so since lxde is largely gtk and not qt, it will mean pulling in some qt libs. qutebrowser too | 00:02 |
| wxl | xombrero used to be a thing but i don't know where it went | 00:03 |
| wxl | @VikingRedwolf likes opera but i doubt that's light | 00:03 |
| wxl | @kc2bez i don't think that's too strange, actually | 00:03 |
| Wafficus | hmm, btw did anyone figure out what the default mirror should be for the getcountry() function? | 00:04 |
| Wafficus | or rather | 00:04 |
| Wafficus | whoops poorly phrased | 00:04 |
| Wafficus | that has to deal with getmirror() | 00:04 |
| Wafficus | I guess I have to add a timeout block to make the computer wait for the country right | 00:04 |
| wxl | ^^ @tsimonq2 | 00:04 |
| wxl | yeah | 00:04 |
| Wafficus | do we we need a try and except block for the getcountry() function? | 00:05 |
| Wafficus | isn't that only for the getmirror() function? | 00:05 |
| wxl | mirror calls country and country's the one that fails, so country | 00:05 |
| Wafficus | ah ok | 00:05 |
| Wafficus | so I put the code that was previously placed into the try block | 00:05 |
| Wafficus | now for the default except part | 00:05 |
| Wafficus | if in doubt, US lol? | 00:05 |
| Wafficus | or we have to assume other countries as well | 00:06 |
| Wafficus | or rather, the issue is to make a time out function | 00:06 |
| Wafficus | do I have to consult the "REST api" for Python in this case? | 00:06 |
| wxl | probably | 00:07 |
| wxl | but | 00:07 |
| wxl | i don't know | 00:07 |
| wxl | no, the country is used to pick a mirror | 00:08 |
| Wafficus | so there is no default country then | 00:08 |
| wxl | well we need to pick one | 00:08 |
| wxl | i'd say pick the US | 00:08 |
| Wafficus | like there would be no except clause other than saying "country not found" | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | yeah I was gonna say | 00:09 |
| wxl | and oregon state university's mirros :) | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | good idea | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | didn't know we mirror from that university | 00:09 |
| wxl | they mirror everything | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | I knew a transfer student at the college I went to that went there | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | mega cute | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | anyway | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | lets see | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | default mirror should be oregon state university mirrors huh | 00:09 |
| Wafficus | makes sense | 00:09 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T53: Must haves for 18.10 release] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T53#1649 | 00:10 | |
| wxl | i wish lugito showed diffs | 00:10 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @Wafficus [<Wafficus> question regarding lxterminal, so is it possible to full screen it?], F11 | 00:21 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> the best I have done | 00:22 |
| Wafficus | HMollerCl: but how do I get rid of the menu at the top too? | 00:24 |
| Wafficus | like to hide it | 00:24 |
| Wafficus | Thanks though for the F11 trick, appreciate it a ton | 00:24 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @Wafficus [<Wafficus> HMollerCl: but how do I get rid of the menu at the top too?], I don't think it can be done. Can't you use tty? (ctrl+alt+f1 f2, f3....f6) com back to x with ctr+alt+f7 | 00:26 |
| wxl | Preferences > Display > Hide menu bar | 00:28 |
| Wafficus | woah | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | yeah I just got back to this | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | that was a trip | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | I didn't even know you could do that | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | thats crazy | 00:29 |
| wxl | you mean virtual terminals? | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | yeah whatever the hell that was | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | ctrl + alt + f1 | 00:29 |
| wxl | yep | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | I thought I totally screwed up my computer | 00:29 |
| wxl | hah | 00:29 |
| Wafficus | is that lxterminal? | 00:29 |
| wxl | be warned: that's not running in x | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | or is that something else | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | yeah I assumed | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | I kinda like that | 00:30 |
| wxl | something altogether different | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | pure terminal baby :) | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | maybe that's the solution to my other laptop | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | keep X for boot | 00:30 |
| wxl | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_console | 00:30 |
| Wafficus | but immediately go into virtual terminal | 00:30 |
| wxl | or just don't even boot into x | 00:31 |
| wxl | use it iff. you need it | 00:31 |
| Wafficus | yeah I got an old Acer Aspire 3690 with 512 meg ram, considering just having purely terminals on that | 00:33 |
| Wafficus | I tried looking at what "ubuntu server" distro I needed yesterday but was confused ha | 00:33 |
| tsimonq2 | Wafficus: D24 is waiting on upstream. Blaming agaida. XD | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | er | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl | 00:34 |
| wxl | no hell with that | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | dude | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | The package LITERALLY WON'T INSTALL. | 00:34 |
| wxl | when that fix comes, we can mvoe it back | 00:34 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 00:34 |
| wxl | what are you talking about? | 00:35 |
| tsimonq2 | lxqt-globalkeys and lubuntu-default-settings would be impossible to ship at the same time. | 00:35 |
| tsimonq2 | Two binaries can't ship the same files. | 00:35 |
| tsimonq2 | lxqt-globalkeys already ships the files. | 00:35 |
| tsimonq2 | Which means we either have to hack up the LXQt package or we have to wait for upstream to do XDG properly. | 00:35 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Which means we either have to hack up the LXQt package or we have to …], that's for Super_L ? | 00:36 |
| wxl | oh god. well reading their bug the latter is not coming any time soon | 00:36 |
| wxl | yes @HMollerCl and any other changes we want to make to keys | 00:36 |
| wxl | and that's the thing --- we WILL want to make changes | 00:36 |
| wxl | so i vote hacking lxqt then :/ | 00:36 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'm pretty sure that my installation from mid august had Super_L as default | 00:36 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I tyhink I can download again right? | 00:36 |
| tsimonq2 | I really can't do that in good conscious, but I can close my eyes and whistle if you get a change sponsored to lxqt-globalkeys by another Ubuntu developer. :P | 00:36 |
| wxl | ugh | 00:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> to test it and see what cahanged? | 00:37 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> It is very annoying for the main menu shortcut default to be set to Alt+F1 | 00:37 |
| wxl | well then i guess we can kiss globalkeys changes goodbye | 00:37 |
| tsimonq2 | Faulty logic. :P | 00:37 |
| wxl | not for a while at least | 00:38 |
| tsimonq2 | Find how other LXQt packages just pull from XDG settings, and then make PRs upstream to lxqt-globalkeys. | 00:38 |
| wxl | go for it | 00:38 |
| tsimonq2 | For someone who isn't familiar with the codebase, probably a 2-3 hour job. | 00:38 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 00:38 |
| wxl | cuz i'm sure if the developers of the actual software can't figure it out, joe pleeb sure can | 00:38 |
| tsimonq2 | dude | 00:39 |
| tsimonq2 | agaida is just lazy | 00:39 |
| Wafficus | wxl: So its time.sleep(10) for 10 seconds in Python | 00:39 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl there's only a day or two of images available, sorry | 00:39 |
| Wafficus | did you want that BEFORE localdata gets initialized | 00:39 |
| Wafficus | or after | 00:39 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: no, the bug is something he made because he wants it changed | 00:39 |
| Wafficus | in automirror's main.py? | 00:39 |
| wxl | Wafficus: no, no. urllib.request has a timeout option | 00:39 |
| tsimonq2 | Wafficus: See palinek's comment. | 00:39 |
| tsimonq2 | ARGH. | 00:39 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: YOU. | 00:39 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 00:39 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: 07:42:07 PM <+agaida> and it should be easy to implement - but not for me :D | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | I TOLD YOU DO | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | *SO | 00:43 |
| wxl | ok well whos' going to do it? apparently no one cares | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | You apparently care. | 00:43 |
| tsimonq2 | :P | 00:43 |
| wxl | s/no one/no one with sufficient skill and knowledge of the code/ | 00:44 |
| tsimonq2 | dude | 00:44 |
| tsimonq2 | It's just C++ | 00:44 |
| wxl | then knock yourself out | 00:44 |
| wxl | or we just change the default in lxqt-globalkeys and problem solved | 00:44 |
| tsimonq2 | Knock yourself out; the packaging's in Phab. | 00:46 |
| Wafficus | hey so I'm looking at that link: | 00:48 |
| Wafficus | https://phab.lubuntu.me/D23 | 00:48 |
| Wafficus | I don't see a comment that told me to look into urllib.request() for a timeout section | 00:48 |
| Wafficus | I will anyway | 00:48 |
| Wafficus | but am I not on the same page? | 00:48 |
| wxl | there's not a timeout section. it's an option to urllib.request | 00:48 |
| wxl | like it's a feature of urllib.request itself | 00:48 |
| Wafficus | gotcha | 00:51 |
| wxl | got a solution to the problem @TheWendyPower | 00:52 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @wxl........ 😏 | 00:53 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower blame me. I didn't knwo two binaries couldn't provide the same file. | 00:54 |
| Wafficus | wxl: Hey check out my pastebin: | 00:54 |
| Wafficus | wxl: https://pastebin.com/YyvW7Ym2 | 00:54 |
| Wafficus | wxl: is that what you wanted using the 'timeout' parameter? | 00:54 |
| tsimonq2 | Anyone else have botched networking with the daily under QEMU? | 00:59 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @wxl I'll just go back to working on the slide show... [whispers to myself] It is much safer there... 😉 | 01:00 |
| tsimonq2 | ahahaha | 01:00 |
| tsimonq2 | Good work! | 01:00 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl now I will try the calamares thing | 01:01 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> on a vm | 01:01 |
| Wafficus | wxl: hey man, did you check out my paste bin above? | 01:01 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mmm @wxl it's taking pretty long on unsquash filesystem | 01:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> at least now it is in 22% before was in 21%. | 01:17 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> create locale | 01:20 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> 39% | 01:21 |
| lyorian | @HmollerCI unsquash seems to take a long time | 01:29 |
| lyorian | tsimonq2: live session or installed? | 01:31 |
| lyorian | tsimonq2: I have it working fine with virtio nic | 01:31 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> and error | 01:32 |
| lyorian | in the live session | 01:32 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> yes | 01:33 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-cosmic-cuttlefish-release-parties/8228 | 01:34 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl what error? pastebin the logs if you can | 01:37 |
| wxl | man i wish Wafficus would just stay put XD | 01:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> (Photo, 375x286) https://i.imgur.com/pABdcrI.jpg | 01:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> never used pastebin what should I do? | 01:37 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower so you're giving up? :( | 01:37 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl `cat somefile | pastebinit` | 01:38 |
| wxl | did you copy and paste @HMollerCl? that might be the issue. python is really picky about indentation | 01:39 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> did you copy and paste @HMollerCl? that might be the issue. python is real …], ok, that can be | 01:40 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl here's the raw file you can just replace it ith https://phab.lubuntu.me/file/data/tkqb45bqwzr2kzcz6vtl/PHID-FILE-6gnqqtxh3ra6vc6mgajb/common_modules_automirror_main.py | 01:40 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @wxl goodness no I'm not giving up! I am drinking an adult beverage and making dinner for my husband and 4 children. :-) | 01:40 |
| wxl | @TheWendyPower ok good because you did really good and you're almost done!!!! | 01:40 |
| wxl | although the thought of wendy coding drunk… | 01:41 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> Hahahahahaha | 01:41 |
| lyorian | don't spill the adult beverage on your computer | 01:41 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> It isn't going near the computer... I just can't have another ruined keyboard right now. 😁 | 01:43 |
| wxl | https://www.wetkeys.com/Washable-Computer-Keyboards-Waterproof-Computer-Keyboards-s/3.htm | 01:44 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> I may have to get one of those..... | 01:45 |
| wxl | i hear that adult diapers help, too, since you don't have to bother getting up XD | 01:45 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> I've changed diapers for 4 kids, I'm done with diapers!!!! | 01:47 |
| wxl | oh you don't have to tell me twice and i only have one | 01:48 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> LOL! | 01:49 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl here's the raw file you can just replace it ith https://phab.lu …], ok, starting all again, btw, now the system only gave me the manual partition option | 01:50 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl if that's the case you should quit calamares and look at your disk set up with e.g. `lsblk`. chances are you have a swap partition mounted. run `swapoff /path/to/swap` and then run calamares and it will work | 01:51 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I did the manual partition, manual erase and created | 01:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> the installation ended w/p problems | 02:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> w/o | 02:14 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl that's a good sign. can you send the logs over? | 02:15 |
| wxl | i don't remember if there's timing info in there. | 02:15 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mmmm, y did the reset after installation. Can I recover them? | 02:16 |
| wxl | maaaaybe. look in ~/.config | 02:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> don't see anything. But to be honest, during the installation I didn't found logs in .config either | 02:18 |
| wxl | oh they're there somewhere | 02:19 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> apparently I will have to instal again | 02:23 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Are you looking for calamares logs? maybe /var/log/installer/ | 02:24 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> will look there | 02:24 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl I think I have some logs. How can I send it to you? | 02:32 |
| wxl | sorry i meant ~/.cache not ~/.config | 02:32 |
| wxl | you can put it on paste.ubuntu.com or share.riseup.net or wherever..... or just `cat file | pastebinit` and give me the url | 02:33 |
| wxl | here's my log i just finished https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j3r4jmHfCY/ | 02:33 |
| wxl | if you go to automirro you can i pass through the automirror in like a second | 02:34 |
| wxl | less than that, really | 02:35 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CjpCr7krjW/ | 02:38 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> hope this help | 02:39 |
| wxl | hm that seems to be the bad one | 02:39 |
| wxl | oh wait no i'm wrong | 02:39 |
| wxl | the good one follows | 02:39 |
| wxl | so it took about 3 seconds for you | 02:39 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> yup, the two | 02:40 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ok, I need to sleep. Good night. | 02:41 |
| wxl | thanks be well! | 02:41 |
| wxl | oh it looks like the timeout thing might not be an issue. looks like without specifying it has no timeout! https://stackoverflow.com/questions/29649173/what-is-the-global-default-timeout#29649638 | 02:43 |
| lyorian | night @HmollerCI | 03:12 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA0cfb42a5926b: fix changelog for patches] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA0cfb42a5926b | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAa6f8fc187fce: make libs private] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAa6f8fc187fce | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA9993bd2d5a91: fix control like debian] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA9993bd2d5a91 | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAc1462efb141b: fix copyright like debian] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAc1462efb141b | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAd5e6039cdfbe: fix copyright location] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAd5e6039cdfbe | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAe5e794796f86: fixed rules like debian] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAe5e794796f86 | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA89a8d4ee2ccb: removed qtkeychain install] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA89a8d4ee2ccb | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA25b6f3744da3: updated install files like debian] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA25b6f3744da3 | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA833ff3c8f2e0: update watch like debian] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA833ff3c8f2e0 | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA8dff8499daa3: update lintian-overrides like debian] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA8dff8499daa3 | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA333756f70e66: add postinst from debian] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA333756f70e66 | 03:40 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA9d3b8c7fb783: update checklist] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA9d3b8c7fb783 | 03:44 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA7400605453bd: fix extra copyright] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA7400605453bd | 03:56 | |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> @wxl [<wxl> @VikingRedwolf likes opera but i doubt that's light], I'm liking Epiphany more and more lately, but I need security plugins in my life. And the sync feature of Opera is perfect, including the speed dials. Firefox 's bookmarks are awful. But yes, being a Chromium thingie it's not that fast loading, but it is rendering | 03:58 |
| lubot | . | 03:58 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA65ed8057f809: slight watch improvement] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA65ed8057f809 | 04:16 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA1e09bbd0632e: nevermind the private lib patch] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA1e09bbd0632e | 05:37 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA6ef6d5bae702: fix install paths] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA6ef6d5bae702 | 05:37 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA08cc6d0a1e63: update changelog] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA08cc6d0a1e63 | 05:41 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA86995307a458: deal with lintian errors] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA86995307a458 | 06:02 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAc95112a60e52: i kan spell] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAc95112a60e52 | 06:07 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA65c2957631a8: triggers not necessary after all] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA65c2957631a8 | 06:11 | |
| wxl | new trojita coming down the pike. with all of agaida's debian packaging. this should be good. | 06:24 |
| wxl | ok trojita 0.7-0ubuntu1ppa4 has now successfully built and is publishing as we speak. go test everyone! https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/testy-testy | 06:35 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: any idea if those luks/encryption changes made it into calamares and what patches we want to pull down if they have? | 06:41 |
| wxl | ugh trojita is almost there | 06:43 |
| wxl | i'm in this weird catch-22 trying to deal with lintian errors but the solution is to move libtrojita_plugins.so from /usr/lib/trojita to /usr/lib | 06:44 |
| wxl | ok ppa5 on the way should fix that | 07:04 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA4ed3cbc196f7: fixed location of libtrojita_plugins.so] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA4ed3cbc196f7 | 07:06 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITA182419ae2198: triggers necessary after all] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITA182419ae2198 | 07:07 | |
| wxl | now i got to bed | 07:08 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> @wxl I tested trojita. Everything seems to work as expected for me. Install went fine and I was able to send and receive emails. I think you got it! | 10:25 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T81: Swap out KDE Falkon for Firefox until Falkon becomes more stable] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T81#1650 | 12:28 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#1651 | 12:30 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: Set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#1651 | 12:30 | |
| wxl[m] | Thanks @kc2bez! | 14:04 |
| wxl[m] | See that task T81 above if you have objections about swapping Falkon for Firefox folks | 14:06 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> I have no objection. | 14:07 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T86: Reorganizations of official titles] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T86#1653 | 14:21 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: Set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#1655 | 14:32 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T72: Fix HTML for lubuntu-devel list] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T72#1657 | 14:35 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T72: Fix HTML for lubuntu-devel list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T72#1658 | 14:36 | |
| wxl[m] | Who else has tried Trojitá? | 14:47 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> I've not tried it but I can. | 14:56 |
| wxl[m] | Dooooooeeeeeeet | 14:57 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T73: Set up Lubuntu Membership] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T73#1660 | 15:03 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> There, I've sort of laid down a foundation for Lubuntu governance. | 15:08 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: a switch? really? because you said we were waiting on a new release | 15:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: a switch? really? because you said we were waiting on a new rel …], What? | 15:35 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: encryption | 15:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah, the release was done aaaages ago | 15:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We haven't been waiting for a while | 15:36 |
| * wxl sighs | 15:37 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Who else has tried Trojitá?], how should I install it? apt install? | 15:37 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @lubuntu_bot [*wxl: sighs*], Love you too. Now go enable LVM in a live image and try an install! | 15:37 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt install trojita` | 15:37 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: well first i have to figure out flipping the switch, right? also you're pinging the bot. | 15:38 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: well first i have to figure out flipping the switch, right? als …], I'm not pinging the bot, just replying to you... The switch is in the docs | 15:39 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I don't know offhand | 15:39 |
| wxl | h0837 < lubot:#lubuntu-devel> <tsimonq2> @lubuntu_bot [*wxl: | 15:39 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Bah | 15:39 |
| wxl | this is the switch? https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/v3.2.2/src/modules/partition/partition.conf#L62 | 15:41 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I dunno, try it :) | 15:42 |
| wxl | ugh | 15:42 |
| wxl | you seem to have expressed some understanding about this. i know nothing about it. | 15:42 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Me neither. I just RTFM'ed. | 15:46 |
| wxl | then you should be able to say yay or nay, no? | 15:46 |
| wxl | anyways i guess you'll be of little help | 15:46 |
| wxl | why do we have neverCreateSwap to true? this ensure suspend basically won't work | 15:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> why do we have neverCreateSwap to true? this ensure suspend basically won' …], Because Ubuntu does swapfiles | 15:52 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I dunno | 15:52 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> You can't suspend with swapfiles???? only swap partition? | 15:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [You can't suspend with swapfiles???? only swap partition?], You can | 15:56 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl no, you can. i didn't recognize that fact | 15:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Which is why we don't need a partition | 15:56 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> that si my understading too. | 15:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I also think wxl is confusing suspend with hibernate. You can suspend without swap, you can't hibernate without swap. | 15:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> And hibernate has been disabled for aaaages. | 15:57 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> but you can enable it. | 15:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [but you can enable it.], Can you? | 15:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Also wxl I really want to know your thoughts on the whole LC proposal | 15:58 |
| wxl | suspend needs ram, hibernate needs disk | 15:58 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: it's fine but i'd consider dealing with the iso as a little more important | 15:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Mkay | 15:59 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [Can you?], yes, I did that. From what I know ubuntu disabled hibernation for computers NOT certified for lubuntu. | 16:00 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/361734/hibernation-is-still-missing-from-menu-in-13-10-after-enabling-via-polkit-how-t/362499#362499 | 16:00 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation | 16:00 |
| wxl | althought https://lwn.net/Articles/764841/ | 16:02 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rTROJITAe49198de1e73: updated timestamp] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rTROJITAe49198de1e73 | 16:18 | |
| Wafficus | wxl: Did you see the pastebin I did last night, wxl? | 17:12 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> has anyone tried wine in 18.10? | 17:15 |
| wxl | Wafficus: i sent you a memo | 17:16 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> No I have not, but I've thougt about loading up Steam. | 17:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> In my installation from august, after ... sudo apt install wine | 17:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> when I run wine it says: | 17:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> it looks like wine32 is missing, you should install it. ... as root, please execute "apt-get install wine32" | 17:17 |
| Wafficus | wxl: On phab? | 17:17 |
| Wafficus | wxl: If its through IRC's private messaging, how do I access my IRC inbox? | 17:17 |
| wxl | Wafficus: /msg memoserv | 17:17 |
| wxl | you should have got it when you logged in | 17:18 |
| wxl | might have not noticed it in the spew | 17:18 |
| wxl | while you're at it go try trojita: `sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt install trojita && trojita` | 17:18 |
| Wafficus | got your memo | 17:19 |
| Wafficus | what's trojita? | 17:20 |
| Wafficus | I'm accessing freenode via browser at work, so I'm not any particular machine tbh | 17:20 |
| wxl | our email client for 18.10 | 17:21 |
| wxl | i just finally got it packaged in a reasonable state | 17:21 |
| wxl | already have one +1 on it but i need as many eyes on it as possible | 17:21 |
| wxl | word of warning though: imap only | 17:21 |
| Wafficus | wxl: Ah gotcha, yeah I'll install it on my Lubuntu laptop at home | 17:24 |
| Wafficus | what's imap? | 17:24 |
| wxl | most likely, the email protocol you're used to | 17:26 |
| Wafficus | gotcha | 17:31 |
| Wafficus | I do defaults for lubuntu | 17:31 |
| Wafficus | so I have no idea lol | 17:31 |
| wxl | well i think that claws or whatevre it was that we shipped could do either | 17:32 |
| wxl | and in other news looks like we have kernels stuck in proposed keeping our images from building | 17:32 |
| wxl | so take a break from testing images and test trojita :) | 17:33 |
| wxl | yeah sylpheed does pop3, imap up to 4rev1, smtp (duh, that's sending) as well as nntp (news) | 17:34 |
| wxl | trojita's not that cool. | 17:34 |
| wxl | but i'm not the world's biggest fan of pop. it has its value, but i don't need it. | 17:34 |
| Wafficus | well I'll take a break when I finally fix that function's timing issue | 17:39 |
| Wafficus | or whatever you want then htough | 17:39 |
| Wafficus | I just want to make sure its solved | 17:39 |
| Wafficus | I always just use outlook in browser, I've never used mail clients in an OS ever | 17:39 |
| Wafficus | just only in a browser tab | 17:39 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl, just confiigured an IMAP account. There is no "authentication failed" message | 17:40 |
| wxl | actually i'm thinking the timeout is a red herring | 17:40 |
| Wafficus | I would want to learn mutt though | 17:40 |
| wxl | i don't remember if i sent you that | 17:40 |
| Wafficus | yeah you said that | 17:40 |
| wxl | infinity is a long time out | 17:40 |
| wxl | mutt rules. | 17:40 |
| Wafficus | I could never find out how to change the default email though through their man page | 17:40 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl you configured this through trojita? | 17:40 |
| Wafficus | I tried waiting in #mutt too but no response | 17:40 |
| Wafficus | *for Lubuntu | 17:40 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl you configured this through trojita?], yes | 17:41 |
| wxl | usually update-alternatives will do the trick | 17:41 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl how do you know you were suppossed to get an authentication failed message? maybe you put in the right password after all? XD | 17:41 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I had to open a "IMAP protocol" window to see the problem | 17:42 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> And it is still trying to connect, how can I stop it? | 17:42 |
| wxl | that i'm not sure of | 17:45 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> tring to reply an e-mail I got: APPEND ha fallado: Client tried to access nonexistent namespace. (Mailbox name should probably be prefixed with: INBOX.) (0.001 + 0.000 secs). | 17:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> really don't get what should be prefixed with INBOX. | 17:48 |
| wxl | where did you make an account at? | 17:49 |
| wxl | i don't even get how you can make an account | 17:54 |
| wxl | seems like all you can do is add an existing one | 17:54 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'm confused between make an account and add an existing one. | 18:19 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> In making an account are you thinking in a server? | 18:19 |
| wxl | well in thunderbird you can sign up for an account on e.g. gmail, in addition to simply entering your information for an account that already exists at gmail | 18:19 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> aaa, I don't know thata. My trojita just crashed | 18:20 |
| wxl | i don't think trojita can do much more than just enter an existing account | 18:20 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> i don't think trojita can do much more than just enter an existing account], I think the same | 18:20 |
| wxl | post up the crash if you can | 18:21 |
| wxl | probably something in /var/crash | 18:21 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> got it but I can't connect to pastebinit | 18:24 |
| wxl | weird | 18:24 |
| wxl | maybe that's why trojita crashed: network issues | 18:24 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> [Errno socket error] The write operation timed out | 18:26 |
| wxl | yeah that sounds like a network issue. can you `ping paste.ubuntu.com` ? | 18:27 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ING paste.ubuntu.com (91.189.90.174) 56(84) bytes of data. ... 64 bytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com (91.189.90.174): icmp_seq=1 ttl=43 time=217 ms ... 64 bytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com (91.189.90.174): icmp_seq=2 ttl=43 time=224 ms ... 64 bytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com (91.189.90.174): icmp_seq=3 ttl=44 time=217 ms ... 64 b | 18:27 |
| lubot | ytes from druzhnaya.canonical.com (91.189.90.174): icmp_seq=4 ttl=43 time=228 ms | 18:27 |
| wxl | i'd try it again | 18:27 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> still getting the same error, still able to ping paste.ubuntu.com | 18:35 |
| wxl | @HMollerCl what's the exact command you're using? | 18:36 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> cat _usr_bin_trojita.1000.crash | pastebinit | 18:36 |
| wxl | let's try passing `-b paste.debian.net` to pastebinit | 18:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> cat _usr_bin_trojita.1000.crash | pastebinit -b paste.debian.net | 18:38 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> ?? | 18:38 |
| wxl | yep | 18:38 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> same error | 18:38 |
| wxl | huh it just dies | 18:38 |
| wxl | bizaare. open up paste.ubuntu.com and copy and paste it then XD | 18:39 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> it gave me a 502 error | 18:43 |
| wxl | wth | 18:43 |
| wxl | well something is certainly not behaving right with your networking | 18:44 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> after pasting the data, after I press the "paste" buton it give me 502 bad gateway | 18:45 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> apparently wine has problems creating entries in the menu. | 18:46 |
| wxl | no suchn problems https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DxCvjpVxNs/ | 18:46 |
| wxl | even more https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GPk2wW6bDx/ | 18:47 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> i will ry in the host system | 18:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> yup, no problem there | 18:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Bv2rBjXC9K/ | 18:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> winecfg ... 001e:err:winecfg:open_mountmgr failed to open mount manager err 2 | 18:57 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> not sure whta that means | 18:57 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> is a wine error | 18:57 |
| wxl[m] | Isn't there a wine channel? | 18:58 |
| wxl[m] | Oh well probably not on Telegram | 18:58 |
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| lubot | <HMollerCl> 16:50:47.618 Submission gotError: APPEND ha fallado: Client tried to access nonexistent namespace. (Mailbox name should probably be prefixed with: INBOX.) (0.001 + 0.000 secs). ... 16:50:47.618 Submission STATE_FAILED | 19:51 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T60: Improved Wallpapers] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T60#1670 | 20:13 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> wxl, @TheWendyPower: Can I get your thoughts on the LC stuff ASAP so I can get the ball rolling? | 20:32 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 I've read through it a few times today. It sounds good to me. | 20:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Cool. | 20:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> wxl wxl wxl wxl wxl | 20:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Waiting on wxl :) | 20:36 |
| wxl | i already said go | 21:04 |
| wxl | btw calamares seg faults trying to do luks | 21:05 |
| wxl | no clear response from anyone at #cala as to what the issue might be | 21:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Ah | 21:18 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Just checking current daily. @TheWendyPower 200px button is ok | 21:23 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Gtk theme enable is ok, screen grab is out | 21:23 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Only thing apparently doesn't work is to define gth-theme arc-darker. The override in gnome worked but adwaita still appears as default | 21:24 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [Only thing apparently doesn't work is to define gth-theme arc-darker. The overri …], So, LXQt isn't reading it correctly? | 21:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I will send what happens after installing it | 21:36 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> *see | 21:36 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Nope, still puts adwaita | 21:51 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Apparently the .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini must exist | 21:52 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#1671 | 22:01 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> the setting of default gtk-theme from gsettings was added on sept2. This should be taken into cosideration by 18.10 right? | 22:21 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/pull/278/commits/10945b90c8d9a084977675bc8b1db158acd4c909#diff-b37764f38e63f6ed1fa485106bf34ccaR294 | 22:22 |
| wxl | i'm pretty sure i added that patch to mkpath if not exist | 22:24 |
| wxl | it's certainly something that came after the last release https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/compare/0.13.0...master | 22:25 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lxqt-config/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/debian/patches/mkpath-for-null-gtk-settings.patch | 22:26 |
| wxl | so you can see that's only part of it | 22:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> so that's why it isn't working. | 22:29 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> giving that, the only way I see we can define a default is to create .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini | 22:37 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#1672 | 22:42 | |
| wxl | @HMollerCl you could pull the rest of that patch in if need be | 22:42 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> how? | 22:43 |
| wxl | use that one as an example | 22:43 |
| wxl | more or less you want to do this: grab the diff from github, import it with quilt, and there ya go | 22:43 |
| wxl | that's what i did with that one | 22:43 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mm I will have to thinks about it to see if I understand it. | 22:44 |
| wxl | i can walk you through it step by step if you need it | 22:44 |
| wxl | i refer to the general concept in the packaging notes but i don't explain it. it's on the todo | 22:45 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> thanks, now I have to go, will ping you when I have time. | 22:45 |
| wxl | ok | 22:45 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#1673 | 22:49 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#1674 | 22:51 | |
| Wafficus | wxl: hey I'm home. What did you want me to dl again? A new mailing client to test out right? | 22:51 |
| tsimonq2 | Wafficus: You should also get a bouncer first. ;) | 22:51 |
| Wafficus | tsimonq2: what's that my dude? | 22:52 |
| Wafficus | tsimonq2: is that the "bot" magic you guys have going? | 22:52 |
| tsimonq2 | Wafficus: wxl would love to explain. | 22:52 |
| wxl | Wafficus: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt update && sudo apt install trojita && trojita | 22:53 |
| Wafficus | wxl: thanks will do right now | 22:53 |
| Wafficus | I'm using that terminal console right now | 22:53 |
| Wafficus | kinda liking this a lot :) | 22:53 |
| Wafficus | way nicer than LxTerminal tbh | 22:54 |
| Wafficus | do you guys know how to use the keyboard to select text in IRC without a mouse lol? | 22:54 |
| Wafficus | I'm using weechat | 22:55 |
| Wafficus | looking through the man page now in any case | 22:55 |
| Wafficus | dling the packages right now | 22:56 |
| Wafficus | for trojita that is | 22:56 |
| Wafficus | so I installed it via that command | 22:58 |
| Wafficus | do I just run it as "trojita" in bash? | 22:58 |
| Wafficus | wxl: | 22:58 |
| wxl | or you can click on the right icon | 22:58 |
| Wafficus | ah gotcha its x based | 22:59 |
| Wafficus | ill be back in that case | 22:59 |
| Wafficus | hey back | 23:03 |
| Wafficus | so I installed it on the terminal console window in F1 | 23:04 |
| Wafficus | now im on the X window aka F7 | 23:04 |
| Wafficus | I don't see the icon, do I have to reboot to see Trojita? | 23:04 |
| Wafficus | *like in any relevant menus in the start menu | 23:04 |
| Wafficus | I'll try rebooting | 23:05 |
| Wafficus | hey weird question | 23:09 |
| Wafficus | what's the default font in LxTerminal? | 23:09 |
| Wafficus | got it its mono space | 23:10 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#1675 | 23:15 | |
| Wafficus | I don't see Trojita as an icon in my start menu | 23:19 |
| Wafficus | and whereis trojita doesn't work | 23:19 |
| Wafficus | wxl: | 23:19 |
| wxl | just run it on the command line. we'll fix that later | 23:20 |
| Wafficus | command not found | 23:20 |
| Wafficus | trojita: command not found | 23:20 |
| wxl | then you didn't install it right | 23:20 |
| Wafficus | can you copy and paste that command again | 23:20 |
| wxl | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:wxl/testy-testy && sudo apt update && sudo apt install trojita | 23:20 |
| Wafficus | its giving 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.95.83 80] in one of the lines | 23:22 |
| Wafficus | im assuming that was just for one of the mirrors | 23:22 |
| wxl | fix your internets :) | 23:22 |
| Wafficus | well if im on this | 23:22 |
| Wafficus | then clearly my internet works | 23:22 |
| wxl | some of it does at least | 23:22 |
| Wafficus | hmm | 23:22 |
| Wafficus | what is a command that i can put the output of my bash console into a text file | 23:23 |
| Wafficus | like just use the arrow key right | 23:23 |
| Wafficus | like: | 23:24 |
| Wafficus | sudo add-apt-respository ppa:wxl/testy-testy > test.txt? | 23:24 |
| wxl | yep | 23:24 |
| Wafficus | I did that command and now I'm waiting | 23:25 |
| Wafficus | I'm wondering how its gonna take the input for the Enter key | 23:25 |
| Wafficus | its just hanging for now | 23:25 |
| wxl | it probably won't | 23:26 |
| Wafficus | damn | 23:26 |
| Wafficus | alright I'll just copy and paste it then | 23:26 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> It should show under the Internet category on your menu after you get it installed, it worked for me. | 23:26 |
| wxl | you can use the -y switch | 23:26 |
| wxl | @kc2bez he is having more fundamental problems | 23:26 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> I see that. I just wanted to let you know @wxl that it did populate my menu. | 23:27 |
| wxl | yay :) | 23:27 |
| Wafficus | https://pastebin.com/ws02hThq | 23:28 |
| Wafficus | ^ there's my output | 23:29 |
| wxl | Wafficus: give us /etc/apt/sources.list | 23:30 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> Bionic? | 23:32 |
| Wafficus | ok | 23:32 |
| wxl | oh actually yeah | 23:32 |
| wxl | all kinds of broken things | 23:32 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> should be cosmic no? | 23:33 |
| wxl | well he might be on bionic | 23:33 |
| wxl | trojita won't work on it, though | 23:33 |
| wxl | you should open up a virtual machine and run it that way Wafficus | 23:33 |
| lubot | <kc2bez> yeah I wondered. | 23:33 |
| Wafficus | https://pastebin.com/2VRGdz0a | 23:34 |
| Wafficus | I only have 2 gigs of ram though wxl | 23:34 |
| wxl | so? | 23:36 |
| wxl | lines 56 and 58 are duplicates | 23:36 |
| Wafficus | I didn't think I could run vms on this thing :0 | 23:36 |
| Wafficus | 4 gigs of ram rather sorry | 23:36 |
| Wafficus | not 2 | 23:36 |
| wxl | also if you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d you'll find files related to cool-retro-term and compton that should be removed | 23:36 |
| wxl | so run a vm with 1gb of ram | 23:37 |
| Wafficus | I've never done it :/ | 23:37 |
| wxl | in any case you can't run trojita on bionic | 23:37 |
| Wafficus | do I have to install vmware? | 23:37 |
| Wafficus | am I on Bionic? | 23:37 |
| wxl | virtualbox would probably be easiest but if you can figure it out, virt-manager (kvm/qemu) would probably be a better use of resources | 23:37 |
| wxl | lsb_release -a will tell you | 23:38 |
| Wafficus | ah yeah I'm on bionic | 23:38 |
| Wafficus | so I have to download an iso of cosmic then? | 23:38 |
| wxl | yep | 23:38 |
| Wafficus | ok | 23:38 |
| Wafficus | I have x86_64 | 23:40 |
| Wafficus | so I'm assuming 32 bit release Cosmic right? | 23:40 |
| wxl | 64 | 23:40 |
| Wafficus | really? | 23:40 |
| Wafficus | i'm on x84_64 right now | 23:40 |
| Wafficus | ok | 23:41 |
| wxl | that's 64 | 23:41 |
| Wafficus | ah gotcha | 23:41 |
| Wafficus | dling the iso | 23:41 |
| Wafficus | installing virtualbox | 23:41 |
| Wafficus | gonna be fun | 23:41 |
| Wafficus | I kinda like the vm idea, never really did it | 23:41 |
| Wafficus | I guess I love emulators too, so I've been doing it for a while without really realizing it haha | 23:42 |
| Wafficus | but yeah when I get the ISO, just do a live disc boot of it right? | 23:42 |
| wxl | yup | 23:44 |
| Wafficus | ok i'll keep you updated | 23:45 |
| Wafficus | like usual I kinda only have an hour at home so I'll hopefully get this done before 8:30 pm | 23:45 |
| Wafficus | once I get it, run that command right, and make sure it installs | 23:45 |
| Wafficus | and just test it out right? | 23:45 |
| wxl | yeah, you shouldn't even need to install the system | 23:46 |
| Wafficus | cool will do | 23:47 |
| Wafficus | makes me wanna distro hop a bit haha | 23:47 |
| Wafficus | jk, I still like Lubuntu a lot | 23:47 |
| Wafficus | I tried Puppy like a month ago, ugh, somethings so jenky about that | 23:48 |
| Wafficus | like i wanna like it for being able to run that fast, but damn, is the actual GUI menu just all over the place | 23:48 |
| wxl | that is the ugly underarm pimple of linux | 23:48 |
| Wafficus | at least ours is elegant | 23:48 |
| wxl | ANY other distro is better | 23:48 |
| Wafficus | wxl: I see you agree haha | 23:48 |
| Wafficus | wxl: What's your take on it? | 23:48 |
| wxl | it's gross and disgusting XD | 23:48 |
| Wafficus | wxl: I say its the menu that just isn't user friendly, its all over the place | 23:48 |
| wxl | under the hood it's just bizarre too | 23:49 |
| Wafficus | really? | 23:49 |
| Wafficus | btw how do you leave a channel in IRC? | 23:49 |
| Wafficus | just wanted to leave #linux for now | 23:49 |
| wxl | /part #channel | 23:49 |
| Wafficus | I tried that | 23:50 |
| Wafficus | hmm | 23:50 |
| Wafficus | I tried /part ##linux | 23:50 |
| Wafficus | weird | 23:50 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#1676 | 23:54 | |
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