=== [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius === spiritwalker_ is now known as spiritwalker === berglh_ is now known as berglh === Ayo is now known as Guest2574 === semeion is now known as mnemonic [01:39] hello, I installed 18.04 server image successfully. However, if I try to install something like wicd, it tells me the package is not found. [01:43] doesn't the server edition come with all the repos? [01:43] for basic stuff? [01:46] dman777: no, due to a bug it does not [01:46] dman777: bug 1783129 [01:46] bug 1783129 in subiquity "Only "main" component enabled after install" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1783129 [01:47] If I installed the desktop version instead, would it allow me to exclude a desktop manager? [01:49] dman777: no, but you could uninstall desktop packages later. but if the goal is to install a server then this would be a lot more cumbersome than just to use one of the workarounds discussed on this bug report. [01:49] hi [01:50] answer me [01:50] !ask | hck_ [01:50] hck_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [01:51] dman777: i.e. your easiest option is just to add the missing apt sources after installation. or to use the daily server installer build instead: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily-live/current/ [01:52] lol @ answer me [01:52] gl [01:53] tomreyn: just to confirm, i just need to get /etc/apt/sources.list file and then do a apt-get update with it? is there a place I get a copy that is safe/not altered? [01:53] what ? [01:54] Why do the icons look bad when a program was installed, do they look pixelated? [01:55] dman777: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6KHg4QPXvF/ is probably fine, just replace 'us.' by your country code (or remove it entirely). [01:56] !details | hck_ [01:56] hck_: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [01:58] my icon of a application look bad. [01:58] dman777: make sure you read those notes, too, unless you're not aware of the (in some cases 0) support level of those other components. using "ubuntu-support-status" can help you verify. [01:58] not very specific... [01:59] hck_: which ubuntu version, desktop (or ubuntu variant), graphics card, graphics driver, do you want to post a screenshot? [02:07] tomreyn: ok...thanks. Just to confirm...those repos from the pastebin are for LTS software? I installed wicd-gtk and now ubuntu-support-status shows 0.6% or 4 packages unsupported [02:08] !components | dman777 [02:08] dman777: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [02:09] dman777: not all components receive security support. that's why i suggested you read the notes on the pastebin i pointed to. this is also, and better, explained on the above wiki pages. [02:12] see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/FAQ#Official_Support [02:12] tomreyn: ok, thank you :) [02:13] you're welcome === Class7_ is now known as Class7 === tom is now known as Guest98490 === Guest98490 is now known as anao [03:14] hi [03:16] How can I create a flowchart of program in java POO? [03:32] "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" will not add i386 arch to the system. Clean install. What might cause this? [03:32] "sudo dpkg --print-architecture" only lists amd64 [03:33] LinuxGuy2020: what are you trying to do for what reason on wich ubuntu version please? [03:35] I need to install i386 packages [03:38] bucky beaver [03:42] LinuxGuy2020: bionic? 18.04? [03:42] yeah that one [03:42] on my setup it automagically selects i386 when i install wine-development e.g. [03:43] .....cue the crickets [04:01] hi all. does anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs? i use *.deb package not a snap one. as you can see in notification area preference appears the faenza icon after configuration set (https://pasteboard.co/HGy8pJE.png) but in systray appears the default icon (https://pasteboard.co/HGy9Biy.png) any idea on this issue? [04:01] hi all. does anyone maybe know why using skype for ubuntu the systray icon doesn't change when user switch between different system's icon packs? i use *.deb package not a snap one. as you can see in notification area preference appears the faenza icon after configuration set (https://pasteboard.co/HGy8pJE.png) but in systray appears the default icon (https://pasteboard.co/HGy9Biy.png) any idea on this issue? [04:05] In tmux, how can I copy something and then paste it to something like chrome? [04:16] hi, is there somebody who are using VPN specifically with L2TP connection? [04:17] BuTiToY: and if there was? then what? [04:19] I am having issue with connecting with L2TP using ubuntu 16.04 and 17.04 [04:20] I needed to connect to L2TP for work [04:23] hey folks, trying to get `scrot -s` bound to a custom hotkey, got the hotkey added, but the selection part only comes up when executing scrot from terminal [04:24] otherwise it completely skips the scrot selection and doesn't upload anything, this is for a custom screenshot hotkey [04:25] the bash script for it is in $PATH has execute permissions, the syntax i'm using is `scrot -z --select $filename` where $filename is dated/entropied [04:26] 18.04.1 lts 64bit [04:29] also the selector borders seem a bit wonky, and they 'disappear' somewhat when moving the selection box [04:29] i'd take a screenshot but.. [04:36] BuTiToY: and did your VPN provider provide with with client software application to use or are you simply using openvpn without 3rd party client software? [04:37] BuTiToY: provide "you" with [04:37] hey, is CoC-talk permitted here? [04:47] I am not using any 3rd party software, I added VPN connection in settings... also tried openvpn or swan something I found on the web while searching on how to connect to L2TP (VPN)... but to no success :( [04:48] BuTiToY: are you chatting from the computer right now? [04:49] I am using windows now since I cannot connect to L2TP... wait I go get my other laptop running on ubuntu 16.04 [04:50] I would like to talk about the juicy delicious CoC, but i do not know if it is permitted? [04:51] KSaunderson: That is in #ubuntu-offtopic. [04:51] BuTiToY: in terminal> sudo apt install inxi [04:51] BuTiToY: let me know when done [04:51] Bashing-om: Righty-O! [05:02] BuTiToY: your response times are long...i gotta go [05:02] yes I installed [05:02] sorry [05:03] BuTiToY: ok..let's do this as swift as possible [05:03] ok [05:03] done installing inxi [05:03] BuTiToY: in terminal> inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999 [05:03] BuTiToY: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so [05:04] http://termbin.com/2hjj [05:04] BuTiToY: journalctl|grep ovp|nc termbin.com 9999 [05:04] BuTiToY: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so [05:05] ok [05:06] no url in termbin for journalctl [05:06] BuTiToY: ok standby [05:08] BuTiToY: journalctl SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=NetworkManager|nc termbin.com 9999 [05:09] ok [05:10] http://tembin.com/j4f0 === dingir___ is now known as dingir [05:12] BuTiToY: journalctl|grep vpn|nc termbin.com 9999 [05:13] none [05:13] no url [05:16] BuTiToY: apt list --installed|grep vpn [05:16] BuTiToY: apt list --installed|grep vpn|nc termbin.com 9999 [05:17] the 2nd one? or both? [05:18] BuTiToY: second one [05:18] http://tembin.com/fma [05:18] http://tembin.com/fmam [05:20] BuTiToY: you don't even have openvpn installed [05:21] BuTiToY: you'll need to install and use openvpn or obtain 3rd party vpn client software from your work IT department [05:22] ok I will try to install openvpn... any notes or links for tutorials I could use for use L2TP? [05:24] BuTiToY: https://www.ovpn.com/en/guides/ubuntu-gui [05:25] BuTiToY: guide above is written for 14.04 HOWEVER package names have not changed [05:25] thanks RoscoePColtrane [05:25] BuTiToY: you'll install the same package names [05:26] BuTiToY: you can ignore the first two steps about changing dns...that's not necessary for you..you simply need to install the packages [05:27] ic, noted thanks [05:28] BuTiToY: https://askubuntu.com/questions/760664/ubuntu-16-04-openvpn [05:28] BuTiToY: there's a cleaner list of packages you need to install [05:28] BuTiToY: get those installed and try again [05:29] thanks RoscoePColtrane [05:41] Hello everyone. can someone please tell me how to remove icons from the dash in ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS ? I uninstalled freeplane but it is still in the dash [05:42] LibertyWeNeed: did you try restarting? [05:42] yes [05:43] LibertyWeNeed: try "dpkg -l | grep freeplane" anything there? [05:43] nope [05:44] immediately went back to $ [05:44] LibertyWeNeed: try "grep -iR freeplane /usr/share/applications ~/.local/share/applications" [05:45] just blank space [05:46] in the dash or launcher you men? [05:46] *mean [05:47] that thing with 9 dots in the bottom left hand corner [05:48] no idea [05:49] there is no image in the icon. just the name Freeplane and a blank space [05:49] try "grep -iR freeplane /etc /usr ~/" see what pops up maybe [05:49] aha [05:49] can you right click it and remove or something? [05:50] yes and when I click show details it goes straight to the ubuntu software center [05:50] viva la apt! [05:50] LibertyWeNeed: try "grep -i freeplane ~" [05:51] grep: /home/andri: Is a directory [05:51] ah sorry [05:51] "grep -iR freeplane ~" [05:52] grep: /home/andri/.mozilla/firefox/yjbsjrhq.default/lock: No such file or directory [05:54] LibertyWeNeed: it says on the gnome site right click the icon then click remove from favorites [05:56] there is an "add to favorites" option but not a remove from favorites [05:56] then it's not a favorite [06:00] do you think this is just a bug in gnome? [06:01] gnome IS the bug imo [06:04] haha === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit [06:16] tried a lot of things, can't get scrot to work the way i'd like [06:17] and it's buggy when i get it to work (only works in gnome-terminal) [06:17] i guess i could shortcut gnome-terminal and then bash ~/bin/screenshot [06:17] as the command yanno, not sure of gnome-terminal's syntax to do that as a keyboard shortcut [06:18] and flags to close gnome-terminal when done [06:19] or better still to run with 100% transparency or hidden otherwise [06:20] there's a notify-send at the end to pop up a notification that the screenshot url was copied to the clipboard [06:23] if anyone kind enough can maybe hel[lp] with it [06:27] hi all. I there any systray applet alterantive to xfce notification area plugin ? [06:51] hello does someone know a zsh plugin for this apt stuff? https://askubuntu.com/questions/65245/apt-get-update-only-for-a-specific-repository === HalfWord_ is now known as HalfWord [07:07] i found that Status Notifier Plugin is alternative to Notification area plugin for xfce but it is only available for 18.04 and 17.10 . Is it possible to be installed in 16.04 ? === ShaRose_ is now known as ShaRose === predmijat_ is now known as predmijat === jktw0 is now known as jk0ne === dvdmuckle_ is now known as dvdmuckle === trekkie1701c_ is now known as trekkie1701c === Waggie2 is now known as Waggie [07:35] I'm using cosmic cuttlefish and need to boot one of the older kernels from the grub boot list, otherwise at some point during the boot process the screen goes black with blinking cursor [07:35] and it stays that way until I turn off the machine [07:36] if anyone has any ideas for me, I would be glad to try them [07:37] I clicked a button in gnome software to restart and update and that seemed to cause the issue [07:38] bumblehead: cosmic is in #ubuntu+1 [07:39] hateball: I like your nick [07:39] I'll go to ubuntu+1 then... [07:41] #ubuntu+1 is a small channel [07:47] #ubuntu+2 is even smaller === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [07:51] I added `WaylandEnable=false` to /etc/gdm3/custom.conf [07:51] and that seems to have resolved it [07:54] well goodnight everyone [07:54] goodnight hateball [08:17] Ubuntu 18.04 uses "netplan" instead of "ifupdown" to configure network devices / IP addresses. I've not found sufficient documentation to demonstrate how to configure multiple IPs such as we have on Ubuntu 14.04. Can you offer a link or practical advice please? [08:18] Vic2: the Ubuntu wiki refers you to https://netplan.io/ [08:31] I had no idea that they use netplan [08:31] interesting [08:32] I see nothing that offers any information concerning virtual ethernet ... we have several IP addresses on the server and in the past created virtual ethernet for each ... how to accomplish now? [08:33] Or, is the answer this: Interface aliases (e.g. eth0:0) are not supported. Meaning that Ubuntu is no longer sufficient as an server OS? [08:35] Need help please. I am stuck booting into emergency mode. Looks like systemd times out on device dev-disk-by\x2uuid-19f9f559\x2d172e\x2d249\s2dae2d\x2d4d4bcb519248.device How can i fix this issue [08:51] Vic2: you could try #ubuntu-server [08:55] Ahh, ok guiver_d, ty. [08:58] How do I find out what partition device dev-disk-by\x2duuid-8C0A\x2dE987.device is? So I can fix my system not starting [09:08] Hi Guys, [09:09] I've 2 quick questions regarding landscape solution ? [09:09] Anyone there has experience with ? === mouses is now known as Mouseleums [09:27] Hello. I'm trying to change the langage of all of my 18.04, if i use the settings builtin, i'm having half/half. Any idea to switch fully the langage to another one ? [09:34] tachikomas: maybe you need to fully log out and back in? [09:34] blackflow, done already [09:35] is it possible to create a swap partition, on my currently running ubuntu installation? [09:35] tachikomas: then I suppose not all ui elements are translated/translatable to your lang of choice [09:35] I just checked gparted, and see that I have no swap partition === capellaGoesBOO is now known as capella|away [09:35] i want to switch back to english ;) [09:35] JFox762: you can create a swapfile [09:35] ??? [09:35] I want a swap partition for the purpose of enabling hibernation [09:36] JFox762: well you didn't specify. do you have free space for another partition? [09:36] absolutely [09:36] tachikomas: maybe reboot? [09:36] blackflow, done too :D [09:37] tachikomas: so which parts are not english? [09:38] how do i add a partition? [09:38] Gparted won't let me cut out a partition from the free space [09:38] says i have to unmount the drive [09:39] which ... i figure if i tried that, it would crash my laptop [09:39] JFox762: so it's not adding a new partition at the end, but re-tailoring the existing table? [09:39] All I have is a boot partition [09:39] and tha tis it [09:41] blackflow: [09:41] JFox762: I don't know gparted specifically (I'm a fan of parted, no g), but I guess if /boot is the only thing mounted on that drive, you can do it. [09:41] i get that [09:41] it definitely won't crash if you unmount /boot (but make sure it's re-mounted before you run updates or grub/initramfs re-configs) [09:43] but gparted wont let me [09:43] when i try to unmount sda1 it says the target partition is busy [09:44] Do I just need to run the Ubuntu live usb? [09:44] JFox762: this sounds a bit suspicious. Is that another drive beside your main drive? how come only /boot is there? [09:45] JFox762: yes. You need to run from live usb in order to resize your root or other partitions that are in use when booted to your OS [09:45] OOOOOooooh [09:45] that makes sense [09:45] guess i cant do it right now then [09:45] dont have it with me [09:45] shucks [09:45] "All I have is boot partition" ..... [09:45] actually [09:45] i do have a USB stick with me [09:46] JFox762: you could also look into creating a swap file as opposed to a swap partition [09:47] what is the program that comes with ubuntu to create a ubuntu live usb? [09:47] now that we are getting actual truthful information, bit by bit....... there's a HUGE warning sticker attached to repartitioning your only/main drive with root. [09:47] hmmm [09:47] i should back up my files then [09:48] error creating directory /media/username/USB128 [09:48] permission denied [09:48] wtfrack? [09:50] Hmm nm [09:50] fixed iut [09:51] is it normal... if my Laptop is asleep, that the battery still drains in a day or two? [09:51] I understand Sleep mode still uses a bit of electricity [09:52] JFox762: sleep as in "suspend to RAM"? [09:52] yes [09:52] definitely. [09:52] Sleep as in suspend to ram [09:52] Ok [09:52] whether it's a day or two or ten depends on the hardware [09:52] so hibernate, which suspends to HD, should be better? [09:52] my laptop is a Lenovo T430s, and the HD is a SSD [09:52] yes, that's a full poweroff of the system [09:54] Hmmm shoot [09:54] this first backup is taking a long time [09:55] Soooo... Hibernate mode, takes a bit longer for the laptop to start up [09:55] but that should be minimal, considering my laptop is an SSD [09:56] So the difference between suspend and hibernate resume time should be minimal [09:56] JFox762: "hibernation" writes out memory contents to the swap partition and prepares the boot loader with a bit different code path to bootstrap from that partition [09:57] ok [09:57] it's very much different. sleep mode just halts the cpu and puts it in a lower S state. when you power it back on, it picks up where it left, so the sleep mode has to keep alive the cpu and memory and motherboard and periferals, powered, but in lower state [09:58] I think Hibernate would be a better option for HandleLidSwitch under logind.conf [09:58] hibernation is like full boot in that it has to read entire memory back from the disk first. at 100MB/s for example, sequential read for spinning rust, and 4G of RAM used, do the math [09:58] as it would keep the battery from dying [09:59] I have 8gb ram [09:59] hibernation is full power off. as if you ran "power off". [09:59] but yes [10:00] so hibernation mode is a better option if i put my laptop away after lid close, and have no idea when i might plug it in again [10:00] as it would ensure my battery doesn't drain so quickly while sitting in my backpack [10:01] JFox762: just my opinion, if i dont use my laptop i sudo halt [10:01] JFox762: to be honest, I've never seen suspend/hibernate work great on any computer ever. [10:01] I want to try it [10:01] JFox762: my laptop boots pretty quick every time after shutting down completely [10:04] oops [10:04] back [10:07] !landscape | jc_swisscom [10:07] jc_swisscom: Landscape makes the management and monitoring of Ubuntu systems simple and effective by combining world-class support with easy to use online management tools. https://landscape.canonical.com/ [10:08] !uuid | MannyLNJ [10:08] MannyLNJ: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) [10:11] I really am kicking myself for not creating a swap partition [10:11] stupid stupid stupid [10:11] just shut it down [10:12] JFox762: well, like I said I don't know gparted specifically, but with tools like parted you should be able to add a (swap) partition on a running system, assuming it's _adding_ a partition at the end of the table. [10:13] if you have to resize and shuffle existing partitions, then yes, you need to do that offlie [10:13] *offline [10:13] offline? [10:13] as in from a live instance? [10:13] yes, as in "not booted into root on that drive" [10:13] is that hard to click your browser icon after it boots? [10:13] ubottu: Thx, I found that Debian Client is *unofficially* supported (which is the answer to my first question ;-)). [10:14] hibernate is just unneeded complexity [10:14] im creating a backup to one USB drive [10:14] and a live usb on the other [10:14] Just in case I bork my install [10:14] JFox762: you still didn't asnwer my implicit questions.... are you _adding_ a partition at the end, or resizing/shuffling existing around? [10:14] ... [10:14] I dont know [10:15] there is only one partition [10:15] surely you must know. the computer won't do it for you. [10:15] Second question is, does it support lifecyle patching management ? (ie: Patch Dev Env. on January / Patch Qual. on February / Patch Prod. on March) with same level of package applied ? [10:15] JFox762: you said you had free space. where is it? at the end of the drive? after the existing partitions? [10:15] no [10:15] jc_swisscom: that's a bot you're talking to. [10:16] i dont mean free space partition [10:16] i mean... there is free space on teh boot partition [10:16] jc_swisscom: i think for landscape questions you better adress to canonical [10:16] JFox762: What does fdisk -l gives ? === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony [10:16] blackflow: thx :-) [10:16] permission denied [10:16] hmm [10:16] JFox762: I see, so you have no free space to partition from. Yeah, you'll have to break your system. [10:16] let me sudo tht [10:17] hi all. If a package is only available for bionic is t possible to be installed in xenial ? [10:17] no [10:17] https://pastebin.com/U1AcGvwr [10:18] why can't i resize a partition [10:18] from the empty space within that partition? [10:18] is that not an option? [10:19] JFox762: because that's the main root partition. you'll have to do it "offline", eg. from a liveUSB environment [10:19] Ben64 thanks. Do you maybe know any alternative to Notifiacation plugin for xfce available for xenial ? [10:19] oooh no i know that [10:19] JFox762: You have one single partition that is using your whole disk. [10:19] hence why im creating the liveUSB [10:19] yes jc_swisscom [10:19] JFox762: but eh... I refuse to help you with that, so please don't ask me to. Becasue you don't know what you're doing and explaining how to do it will take whole day and I refuse to tie myself into supporting you with that. sorry. [10:19] ilias_gr: not sure what that is? [10:20] no its ok blackflow [10:20] i get it [10:20] JFox762: why creating live usb? just use the installer iso [10:20] i dont have it [10:20] download it? [10:20] notification area plugin for xfce [10:20] i'm sure such a thing already exists [10:21] i am looking for an alternative more configurable [10:25] ok [10:25] going to try doing it now [10:25] wish me luck! [10:25] if it screws up... ive got backups [10:30] Hey if you spot a crazy dependency for a package in the main repo - what's the best way to report that? [10:30] stevenm: what are we talking about mate? [10:31] lotus|NUC, I install gsmartcontrol - just a little desktop UI for viewing the SMART status of hard disks (e.g. if I'm plugging them in via USB - to see if they're any good or not) [10:32] lotus|NUC, that depends smartmontools... which then recommends 'mailx' a virtual package that ends up installing mailutils which depends on 'default-mta' [10:32] stevenm: did you install it via apt? [10:32] in short a tiny UI of gsmartcontrol gets you Postfix being installed :) [10:32] lotus|NUC, yup [10:33] stevenm: you have other external ppa's added to your system? [10:33] nope [10:33] stevenm: did you try "--ignore-depends=" [10:33] tested in a fresh installed 18.04 VM to be sure as well [10:34] stevenm: ok tnx, can you pastebin us whats happening please [10:36] lotus|NUC, https://pastebin.com/raw/WQRejjdJ [10:36] an easy fix would be having 'mailx' be a suggested package for 'smartmontools' - not a recommend [10:37] I think previously s-nail has been preferred over this mailutils - and s-nail doesn't require an MTA [10:39] stevenm: i dont see apt spit out errors on your paste? [10:39] I never said there was an error - i said there was a crazy dependency [10:40] stevenm: unfortunately, that's the case with smartmontools and filing a bug report won't fix this. unless, someone's willing to create a package with no mta ability liek eg..... smartmontools-nomail or something like that. equally unlikely. [10:40] also what your not seeing in that paste is the 2 or 3 purple screens asking you to configure Postfix too :) [10:41] though I agree... actually.... it's crazy. smartmontools shouldn't pull in anything mail related. you simply won't have mailing capabilities unless you install that excplicitly. [10:41] stevenm: if apt says it needs something, let it do its job :p [10:41] lotus|NUC: you're misunderstanding the issue :) [10:41] that's pure nonsense :) [10:41] smartmontools pulls in halfa mailing suites [10:42] if it wants to install an MTA I'd better be installing something that *really* can't work without a proper MTA [10:42] then talk the the #ubuntu-release guys [10:42] otherwise - it's an insane thing to pull in [10:42] to [10:42] waste of time, this should start with debian's packaging [10:42] blackflow, true i checked their packages.debian.org - similar problem [10:43] same actually, not just similar. the dependency on mailx comes with the upstream debs [10:43] but on my debian servers I always install s-nail on all boxes before installing anything else anyway [10:43] so it must avoid the problem as that satisfies 'mailx' virtual package [10:43] stevenm: what if you isntalled ssmtp? [10:44] oh, s-nail? [10:44] blackflow, yeah I think s-nail used to be hairloom-mailx [10:44] then before that just simply 'mailx' [10:44] that fixes it? [10:44] (as in, it won't pull in the entire MTA?) [10:44] so at some point mailutils has been shoved in as an alternative - but wanting a WHOLE MTA :) [10:45] and it's preference is somehow higher than the actual continuation of mailx ... s-nail [10:46] I don't think any thing mail-related should be a dep of smartmoontools just because it installs and runs smartd by default. that thing can _log_ as well, not just send out mails. [10:46] blackflow, too true [10:46] but.... the fix is upstream. I seriously doubt ubuntu package would deviate from that. [10:47] so basically get it fixed in sid and wait until maybe ubuntu 20.04 ? (i only use LTS versions :P) [10:47] fair enough [10:47] unfortunately. [10:47] or use an alternative for reading out smart attribs. surely there exists some, though I haven't checked. [10:47] Hello Everybody [10:48] blackflow, i was just wondering if the GNOME Disk Utility thingy might be able to [10:48] not checked - just used to using GSmartControl [10:48] blackflow stevenm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/smartmontools/+bug/158909 [10:48] Launchpad bug 158909 in smartmontools (Ubuntu) "smartmontools recommends mailx" [Undecided,Won't fix] [10:48] I used fdupes utility recently [10:48] I found it to be working recursively [10:49] I found no option to disable it [10:49] lotus|NUC: stevenm: 2007 :) [10:49] lotus|NUC, lol :) [10:49] yeah [10:49] yea [10:49] I think I've just never noticed before because I'd already have 'heirloom-mailx' installed [10:49] I'm gonna sub to that one... now that you mention this, I'd like to see this fixed too [10:49] of which 's-nail' is now the successor [10:50] just so my bash scripts can use the occassional smtp server to send a message [10:50] i mean having a 'recommends' of mailx at all is nuts - but having it default to 'mailutils' is worse as it pulls the MTA [10:51] stevenm: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools here is also mailx mentioned [10:52] Hey folks [10:55] stevenm: so perhaps when wanting to run it as a deamon apt pulls mailx too? [10:56] stevenm: then again.... this is only about defaults. otherwise --no-install-recommends is the key [10:57] cookie is for Shabbysheik :p [11:00] blackflow, --no-install-recommends is one of the first things I set globally on all servers [11:00] but I shouldn't be expected to that on desktops really [11:00] recommends should be sane enough [11:06] https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/mailx [11:06] https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/mailx [11:06] wtf [11:06] s-nail has been removed as a package providing mailx [11:10] 18.10 is shaping up to be really nice [11:11] alive: #ubuntu+1 for cosmic talk please [11:12] Sorry, didn't mean to [11:16] stevenm: talk to the #ubuntu-release guys, they might see a logic in all this [11:18] lotus|NUC, blackflow - for now I've just documented it in my internal notes thusly... https://pastebin.com/raw/jRM6dbVG [11:18] hey guys... I have ssh locked out myself from my ubuntu server. I can ping the system... The website hosted in the server are up and running but I cant ssh into it. === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [11:20]