[00:02] <tomreyn> plus2equalsme: note that http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/b43-dev/2018-August/004194.html in case you're planning on running a newer kernel
[00:07] <granttrec> so used ubuntu for almost a year and just realized you can open a server in nautilus...glorious! lol
[00:12] <stochastix> Anyone know, if deploying mattermost as a docker, are you stuck having to run it in previewmode?
[00:15] <plus2equalsme> Have some troubleshooting to do, setting away
[00:24] <salamanderrake> On 18.04 how do I permenently select the nvidia-propriatary driver?
[00:26] <Bashing-om> !details | salamanderrake
[00:26] <salamanderrake> It may be a ppa conflict
[00:27] <Bashing-om> salamanderrake: Wayland as the DE ? Nivida then is a work in progress.
[00:28] <aidrocsid> What would the command be to check which port I opened SSH on? I forgot.
[00:28] <aidrocsid> I have access to my command line through KVM
[00:28] <salamanderrake> No, not using wayland, what it is is I have the graphics ppa listed but it won't show nvidia-396 driver, only up to 390.
[00:29] <Bashing-om> salamanderrake: Then you card does not support the 396 version driver . what shows ' lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 12 ' in a pastebin site .
[00:29] <MannyLNJ> Hello. Every time I log onto my system I get three seperate boxes that say a System problem was detected. I need help resolving this
[00:29] <aidrocsid> netstat --listen
[00:29] <aidrocsid> whoops
[00:30] <MannyLNJ> hve to reboot system is unstable
[00:30] <salamanderrake> aidrocsid: ufw Bashing-om, I had it working before, the driver selection keeps going back to 390, when before the kernel update, forgot to mention that, it was on 396.
[00:30] <aidrocsid> Morp?
[00:31] <Bashing-om> salamanderrake: driver conflict now ? what shows ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[00:35] <salamanderrake> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/salamanderrake/df2f3946c2dbfa067c8c29a41050e6b0
[00:35] <salamanderrake> aidrocsid: ignore what I said
[00:36] <tomreyn> aidrocsid: sudo lsof -ni | grep ^sshd
[00:36] <salamanderrake> Bashing-om: I added the graphics-ppa but nvidia-396 does not show up.
[00:37] <Bashing-om> salamanderrake: :) .. 390 was installed .. 396 is what is now .. want to clean out the old 390 config files ?
[00:37] <salamanderrake> Bashing-om: how do I do that?
[00:37] <salamanderrake> apt-get clean
[00:37] <salamanderrake> ?
[00:38] <Bashing-om> salamanderrake: While there is no built in way to remove all of your configuration information from your removed packages you can remove all configuration data from every removed package. To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, where The state is rc, the package is removed, but the config files are not removed....with the following command.
[00:39] <Bashing-om> salamanderrake: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs sudo dpkg -P
[00:39] <aidrocsid> Yay
[00:40] <aidrocsid> <3
[00:41] <plus2equalsme> yay, problem isn't with my wifi card driver. Just connected no problem to a different network
[00:52] <salamanderrake> Bashing-om: Ok, I got it situated, it seems like there was a version mis-match, nvidia-driver-396 could only install 396.54 deps but it was trying to install 396.54.05 deps because there were some straggler 396.54.05 packages on my system, as I think I previously installed an incorrect ppa.
[00:52] <Bashing-om> salamanderrake: :) alls well that ends well .
[00:52] <salamanderrake> yeah
[00:52] <sfp_larry> need assistance re: update manager package broken (per error message) 18.04 lts
[00:58] <Bashing-om> sfp_larry: We see what the error condition is : ' sudo apt update 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 ' and pass that resulting URL back here .
[01:03] <sfp_larry> Bashing-om entered exactly as typed, asked for sudo password, nothing came up, when back to command prompt
[01:03] <sfp_larry> *went
[01:04] <tomreyn> sfp_larry: you can try this instead: sudo apt update 2>&1 | pastebinit
[01:04] <Bashing-om> sfp_larry: My result to show that the command as given is valid : http://termbin.com/mozv .
[01:07] <RoDiMuS-X> Hi all
[01:07] <sfp_larry> dealing with newb here, is ' >& ' code for special character?
[01:09] <RoDiMuS-X> for  redirecting  standard  output  and  standard
[01:09] <RoDiMuS-X> error:
[01:09] <RoDiMuS-X> If its on the cli or in a bash script
[01:09] <sfp_larry> okay. wait one
[01:11] <RoDiMuS-X> EPIC5-2.0.1 (Indolence) + LiCe v5.3.0 (echoes)
[01:12] <RoDiMuS-X> wi
[01:13] <sfp_larry> Bashing-om: copy/paste of cli output
[01:13] <sfp_larry> larry@larry-Inspiron-3541:~$ sudo apt update 2>&1 | pastebinit
[01:13] <sfp_larry> Command 'pastebinit' not found, but can be installed with:
[01:13] <sfp_larry> sudo apt install pastebinit
[01:13] <sfp_larry> larry@larry-Inspiron-3541:~$ sudo apt install pastebinit
[01:13] <sfp_larry> Reading package lists... Done
[01:13] <tomreyn> !paste | you just got muted, sfp_larry
[01:14] <oaulakh> can anyone help, my lubuntu system not showing my bluetooth headphones but its showing phones. my phone can connect my bt headphones but not lubuntu bluetooth manager!
[01:15] <tomreyn> sfp_larry: you can talk again. be sure to use a pastebin. if the "pastebinit" command doesn't work, try the 'nc termbin.com 9999' again, you probably just mistyped something.
[01:16] <sfp_larry> trying pastebin: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rkKjkp53qz/
[01:17] <tomreyn> sfp_larry: forget about pastebinit for now. run the command which produced the original error again, and show this command and its output.
[01:17] <RoDiMuS-X> So it says run sudo apt --fix-broken install
[01:18] <RoDiMuS-X> You can't pipe your update info to pastebin if its not installed
[01:19] <sfp_larry> using cli every problem I'm having keeps coming back to libreoffice or a dependency of it
[01:19] <sfp_larry> won't install pastebinit for that reason
[01:20] <sfp_larry> let me do apt-get update, will send result
[01:20] <RoDiMuS-X> What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[01:21] <sfp_larry> update manager not working, each time I try t run get error in GUI that package is broken
[01:22] <RoDiMuS-X> have you tried sudo apt upgrade
[01:22] <sfp_larry> latest attempt with apt-get update at: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vtPcNfphSn/
[01:23] <RoDiMuS-X> Oh looks like your sources.list has some issues
[01:23] <sfp_larry> RoDiMuS-X: upgraded to 18.04.01 lts, worked fine for about a month, then ran into these problems
[01:24] <RoDiMuS-X> Try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/124017/how-do-i-restore-the-default-repositories
[01:25] <tomreyn> this won't fix the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xenial-partner.list duplicate
[01:25] <oaulakh> can anyone help with bluetooth ??
[01:25] <blackhaze> hello
[01:25] <blackhaze> abyss: hello
[01:26] <RoDiMuS-X> it will if you purge that list as well
[01:26] <tomreyn> which is probably all that's actually needed to happen
[01:46] <foareel> i wanna know what love is
[01:47] <RoDiMuS-X> I want you to show me
[01:47] <foareel> :)
[01:48] <tomreyn> !info love
[01:52] <sfp_larry> RoDiMuS-X and tomreyn: tried your suggestions, followed instruction on askubuntu page, no joy
[01:53] <RoDiMuS-X> still the duplicates in source files error
[01:54] <sfp_larry> wait one
[01:56] <sfp_larry> ran apt-get update in cli, no duplicates in source error, still does not work in GUI
[01:56] <RoDiMuS-X> run sudo apt upgrade
[01:56] <sfp_larry> wait one
[01:57] <tomreyn> the dependency error will likely still remain
[01:58] <RoDiMuS-X> In the past when I had corrupted source.lists in my ubuntu cloud image, i killed the source.lists, still had the error, ran the sudo apt upgrade and it seemed to fix the issue.
[01:58] <RoDiMuS-X> after that I could run sudo apt update with no issues
[02:00] <sfp_larry> RoDiMuS-X: output from apt update at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K2q8xncpPV/
[02:00] <sfp_larry> still have dependency issues running apt upgrade
[02:00] <netcrash> Hello, how do I setup a virtual interface like eth0:1 on netplan ?
[02:01] <tomreyn> sfp_larry: the output you posted doe not show any errors
[02:01] <RoDiMuS-X> Whats your output from apt upgrade
[02:02] <RoDiMuS-X> apt update only updates packages read to be upgraded, apt upgrade actually upgrades your packages
[02:02] <sfp_larry> apt upgrade output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pyV6kr5q6g/
[02:03] <tomreyn> so now show the output of "apt --fix-broken install"
[02:03] <tomreyn> +sudo
[02:04] <RoDiMuS-X> Ok so run apt --fix-broken install && sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice* && sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:04] <tomreyn> !info libreoffice-core
[02:05] <tomreyn> !info libreoffice-common
[02:06] <tomreyn> well that should work
[02:07] <sfp_larry> no joy: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Z4p9QKpkVN/
[02:09] <tomreyn> sfp_larry: openoffice-debian-menus is your problem, it should not have been installed in the first place
[02:10] <sfp_larry> originally had openoffice on machine before upgrading distro, used software center to remove it before installing libreoffice
[02:12] <tomreyn> openoffice wasn't available in 16,04 either
[02:13] <sfp_larry> open office installed from openoffice site, as was having problems with constant crashing of libreoffice in 16.04
[02:13] <RoDiMuS-X> Ugh so you have uninstall openoffice
[02:13] <RoDiMuS-X> sudo apt purge openoffice*
[02:15] <sfp_larry> no joy. used software center GUI to remove openoffice, shows no package found on machine. will copy output of apt purge openoffice. wait one
[02:16] <tomreyn> you don't install software "from a website", or shouldn't. use apt repositories compatible with your ubuntu release (and remove 3rd party repositories and packages installed from there using ppa-purge before release upgrading ubuntu)
[02:16] <tomreyn> ...or snaps
[02:17] <tomreyn> sudo apt purge 'openoffice*'
[02:17] <sfp_larry> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CVx2hCN4wf/
[02:17] <tomreyn> software center is not a complete replacement for a porper package manager such as apt(-get) or synaptic (if you like GUIs)
[02:19] <RoDiMuS-X> Maybe try installing the libreoffice packages first sudo apt install libreoffice-common libreoffice-core libreoffice-style-galaxy libreoffice-style-tango
[02:19] <sfp_larry> only reason I went to openoffice.org was because of constant issues with libreoffice, even before 16.04. even have problems with libreoffice on windows side of disk (dual-boot system)
[02:19] <sfp_larry> Never had problems with openoffice until now
[02:19] <tomreyn> wont work due to file contained in multiple packages as seen before
[02:20] <tomreyn> sudo dpkg --purge openoffice-debian-menus
[02:20] <RoDiMuS-X> yuck
[02:20] <RoDiMuS-X> ahh yes dpkg since it was some binary installer
[02:20] <sfp_larry> ok wait a couple while I catch up here
[02:21] <ezzieyguywuf> I'm trying to intall a package using dpkg-deb -i. This is a package that I have compiled and packaged myself in a docker image. Whenever I try to install the package, I get a list of messages such as "E: Release 'OccWrapper_0.1-1.deb' for 'wesnoth-1.12-dbg' was not found". I don't understand this because my package has nothing to do with wesnoth
[02:21] <ezzieyguywuf> the package itself can be found here: https://gitlab.com/ezzieyguywuf/OccWrapper/-/jobs/104464171/artifacts/file/OccWrapper_0.1-1.deb
[02:22] <ezzieyguywuf> the script used to bulid it can be found here: https://gitlab.com/ezzieyguywuf/OccWrapper/blob/master/.gitlab-ci.yml#L35
[02:22] <JFox762> hi
[02:22] <ezzieyguywuf> and the control file is here: https://gitlab.com/ezzieyguywuf/OccWrapper/blob/master/res/control
[02:22] <JFox762> blackflow: I was able to get Hibernate to work on my machine :)
[02:23] <JFox762> changing the partitions with the liveUSB wasn't that hard to figure out.
[02:25] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: that's a rather strange release name. does your system also print this error while your package is not installed and you run "sudo apt-get update"?
[02:26] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: my system does not print this error (this is actually one of many that it prints) when I run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:26] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: so it does, or it does not?
[02:26] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: it does _not_ when I run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:27] <tomreyn> okay, so "sudo apt-get update" produces no warnings or erros at all? if so, please post the command and full output of what triggers these errors.
[02:27] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: ^
[02:28] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: it does not. working on it: installing pastebinit now
[02:29] <ezzieyguywuf> hm...I just got a message about missing dependencies that _are_ related to my package, with a suggestion to run `apt-get -f install`
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> JFox762: how did you fix?
[02:30] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: so you are now unable to reproduce the "E: Release 'OccWrapper_0.1-1.deb' for 'wesnoth-1.12-dbg' was not found" error?
[02:30] <JFox762> how did I fix what?
[02:30] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: I'm going to let the `apt-get -f install` complete and then try to reproduce the error
[02:30] <JFox762> how did I add the partition? I just used a liveUSB to reduce the size of the main partition
[02:30] <sfp_larry> RoDiMuS-X and tomreyn: ran dpkg --purge, then apt update and apt upgrade. seems to work. software updater GUI running as we speak
[02:31] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: good plan. :)
[02:31] <JFox762> errr I used the liveusb to boot into a live instance of ubuntu, ran gparted... and reduced the size of the boot partition. Created a Swap partition.
[02:31] <JFox762> then I had to edit fstab,
[02:31] <JFox762> and grub
[02:31] <JFox762> and a few other configuration files in order to enable hibernation
[02:31] <tomreyn> sfp_larry: be sure to also full-upgrade or dist-upgrade in the end.
[02:31] <JFox762> also edited the /etc/systemd/logind.conf file so that the "Handlelidswitch" goes to hibernate rather than suspend
[02:32] <sfp_larry> tomreyn: as in ' apt dist-upgrade ', correct?
[02:32] <JFox762> i made log file on my google drive account (Yeah yeah, I know, I hate being in the google environment as well)
[02:32] <JFox762> made a log file so i remember any changes I made
[02:32] <JFox762> or rather have a record of the changes made
[02:33] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: here is the reproduced error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jDpZMp4x7S/
[02:33] <JFox762> it works
[02:33] <JFox762> computer indeed shuts off... and when I re-open it... it opens the applications in the same state I left them
[02:33] <JFox762> err resume it, not "re-open"
[02:36] <lotuspsychje> JFox762: ill let blackflow know
[02:36] <tomreyn> sfp_larry: yes + sudo
[02:38] <sfp_larry> thanks. updater GUI still running. FYI - my software knowledge pretty much stopped after I left college
[02:39] <JFox762> thanks :)
[02:39] <sfp_larry> Back when creatures were still evolving into dinosaurs and an IBM-370 mainframe was 'stae of the art' ... ugh
[02:40] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: so i'm not really into debian packaging. but your package makes the system think that there is an ubuntu release "OccWrapper_0.1-1.deb" and that this system needs to install the packages from this release.
[02:40] <RoDiMuS-X> Cool glad you got it worked out sfp_larry
[02:40] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: ah, I see.
[02:40] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: I'll do some more reading on debian packaging and the control file, then, see if I can figure it out
[02:41] <sfp_larry> thanks RoDiMuS-X. will stay here for a bit to make sure everything ends well
[02:45] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: your control file seems to lack a short description (should follow the "Description:" tag on the same line)
[02:46] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: you think that's the issue?
[02:48] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: i assume not.
[02:49] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: lol. ok thanks for the tip though.
[02:50] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: if you're looking for help with packaging, i guess the better place is #ubuntu-(app-)devel during UK business hours.
[02:51] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: good tip. i'll try that
[02:53] <PeeOnYou> hi hi
[02:56] <PeeOnYou> Is there a slack for ubuntu?
[02:56] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: also two blank spaces (instead of one) for indenting the first line of the long description seems to be wrong. and this might indeed cause such problems (though i'm not yet convinced this is the cause)
[02:57] <tomreyn> PeeOnYou: i dont think so, everyone is pretty busy
[02:58] <PeeOnYou> boo
[02:58] <PeeOnYou> oh well was worth checking
[02:58] <PeeOnYou> well i mean slack workspace
[02:58] <tomreyn> i bet canonical is a pretty busy workplace
[02:58] <PeeOnYou> heh
[03:00] <tomreyn> you're probably looking for https://slack.com/downloads/instructions/ubuntu
[03:01] <PeeOnYou> nope.. that's what i dislike about slack
[03:01] <PeeOnYou> it's hard to find a slack "community"
[03:01] <PeeOnYou> or workspace
[03:01] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: I'm going to try to use dh_make to create a control file, and then compare that to my manually created control file
[03:01] <PeeOnYou> like for instance there's a public MacAdmins slack workspace where people who are mac admins gather to talk about stuff
[03:03] <tomreyn> either way, the "slack" software or (as far as i know) another client for this protocol is not in ubuntu, thus it's not really something we can support here.
[03:03] <PeeOnYou> would be useful since irc isn't really kosher at work
[03:04] <ezzieyguywuf> PeeOnYou: just ssh into your home computer and run irc client from there
[03:04] <PeeOnYou> :P
[03:04] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: i compared yours to that of the bash amd64 binary package in bionic, and what i pointed out above, amongst several missing (but possibly optional) records are the only things i could identify.
[03:05] <tomreyn> There are various alternatives to Slack, but that's not what you asked for.
[03:05] <ezzieyguywuf> tomreyn: can you give me a link to the bash control file?
[03:06] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/b/bash/bash_4.4.18-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[03:10] <tomreyn> ezzieyguywuf: it'd also seem advisable to name the .deb file so that it matches the package name, i.e. either lower or camel case, not both.
[03:11] <PeeOnYou> anyone ever run 18.04 with dual 1080ti gtx cards on an i9?
[03:11] <PeeOnYou> we have something like 50 of them, but they're all running into issues with video
[03:12] <PeeOnYou> either there's no display on boot, or if there is display and they go to sleep, the displays never wake up again
[03:13] <PeeOnYou> so far the only thing i've found that 'fixes' the issue is to swap one displayport cable for an hdmi in 1 monitor
[03:13] <PeeOnYou> somehow that seems to ensure the displays wake up again.. but that hurts my brain because i have no idea why
[03:16] <tomreyn> https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/list/st/5/kw/Working%20Linux%20drivers/page/1
[03:31] <vincenzoml> Hi, quick question: should a usb drive with one partition formatted with btrfs be automounted? 'cause it's not.
[03:49] <MannyLNJ> Hello. I have my Ubuntu on a 111.2G parrtiton and I am almost of of space. I cam't fiure out what is using most of it. Please assist
[03:50] <kumool> MannyLNJ, install windirstat and run that for a while
[03:51] <KSaunderson> Hey everyone, where can i download Linux.exe?
[03:52] <MannyLNJ> kumool, you are sure thats the name?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: what shows ' df -h ; df -i ' ?
[03:53] <kumool> MannyLNJ, no, that's a windows program but https://alternativeto.net/software/windirstat/?platform=linux
[03:53] <kumool> or do what bashing said
[03:54] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, looks like tghe biggest is /dev/sda3       110G  102G  2.0G  99% / but doesm't say under / what is using the space
[03:54] <kumool> KSaunderson, you have to compile it yourself statically
[03:55] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Lot's of kernls installed - as a shortcut . how many? ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[03:56] <kumool> MannyLNJ, you can try a du -a / | sort find
[03:56] <kumool> i forgot the command
[03:57] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, 14 marked ii , 1 marked rc and 2 marked 86 SMP
[03:58] <kumool> MannyLNJ, install one of those alternatives or run du -sh * on /
[03:59] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Try ' sudo apt autoremove ' to remove those old kernels that each take up 335MB .
[03:59] <MannyLNJ> clear
[03:59] <MannyLNJ> Bashing-om, I tried already says 0 to remove
[04:01] <kumool> the kernel isn't gonna take that much space
[04:02] <Bashing-om> kumool: removed 2 kernels a bit ago "  670 MB disk space will be freed " .
[04:03] <kumool> 1gb out of 100gb?
[04:03] <kumool> like trying to empty a lagoon with a bucket
[04:04] <kumool> MannyLNJ, install qdirstat or run   du -shx /*
[04:05] <Bashing-om> MannyLNJ: Let's make sire the package manager is consistent . what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' . One can manually remove old kernels .
[04:05] <MannyLNJ> kumool, I have 96G in /home let me invistage why my /home is so big
[04:07] <kumool> MannyLNJ, use qdirstat, you'll see what is consuming so much
[04:09] <MannyLNJ> kumool, Unable to locate package qdirstat
[04:09] <kumool> really?
[04:09] <MannyLNJ> kumool, really
[04:12] <kumool> MannyLNJ, apt install ncdu
[04:13] <kumool> you're gonna have to configure sources if not
[04:13] <MannyLNJ> kumool, that installed\
[04:13] <kumool> run it and see
[04:13] <MannyLNJ> kumool, I got a warning about some directory sizes may not be correct
[04:14] <kumool> never gotten that
[04:15] <MannyLNJ> kumool, I see 27.3 in /media but thats mounted drives and 95.4 in /home
[04:16] <kumool> you can press enter and use the cursor keys to inspect
[04:16] <kumool> its intuitive, and this isnt an ubuntu problem if 95% is in /home
[04:18] <MannyLNJ> kumool, Yep I see where it is usd. Thanks
[04:19] <kumool> press d to delete, ? to see which keys to use, apt search disk usage to find a graphical one
[04:21] <kumool> baobab looks pretty
[05:21] <sfdebug> hi, does anyone know how to control or access an android phone that has the touch screen broken?
[05:24] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[05:25] <jas> hi dr nick
[05:25] <raddy> How ubuntu can show system restart required without installing any updates ?
[05:27] <transhumanist> how do i kill a process that wont die with kill -9 <pid>
[05:27] <transhumanist> actually the process says defunct
[05:28] <transhumanist> its locked my camera on (been using OpenCV
[05:28] <transhumanist> )
[05:29] <catbeard> kill -15
[05:31] <transhumanist> nope that didnt kill it , must mean its owned by process 0 right?
[05:31] <kumool> sfdebug, #android
[05:31] <kumool> sfdebug, probably have to enable dev mode in the android and then plug it in, and install the android sdk
[05:31] <sfdebug> kumool, i'm there, thanks :)
[05:31] <kumool> probably
[05:32] <kumool> transhumanist, its a zombie process, its already dead
[05:32] <transhumanist> yeah but my camera is locked on and I cant access it
[05:32] <kumool> sfdebug, is that the answer then?
[05:33] <transhumanist> looks like a reboot then>?
[05:33] <transhumanist> I guess i really locked it up when I crashed opencv
[05:33] <transhumanist> ah I just unplugged the camera!
[05:38] <transhumanist> ok so it killed the camera but I cant activate it again, guess I am forced into a reboot thanks!
[06:28] <Koopz> dumb question: why does Ubuntu try to install apache2 when i just want php?
[06:29] <tiggster79> Koopz: because almost everyone who writes PHP code tests it in Apache
[06:30] <Koopz> and how may i prevent the installation of apache because i'm already using nginx
[06:31] <tiggster79> Koopz: apt-get install php7.0-fpm
[06:31] <enzotib> probably it is a "recommend", use the --no-install-recommends option to apt-get
[06:32] <Koopz> 18.04 only lists me 7.2
[06:33] <Koopz> would using apt-mark to prevent anyone from accidently installing apache2 be a bad idea?
[06:42] <jkavalik> hello here, I have a question about apt - when I do "apt install php" it tries to install apache2, looking at dependencies I see that php is a metapackage depending on php7.2 and php7.2 shows dependencies as "libapache2-mod-php7.2 | php7.2-fpm | php7.2-cgi, php7.2-common" - is there some way to let it ask which of the mod_php|fpm|cgi should it install if unmet? or do I have to run "apt install php-fpm php" (which means searching for the available options b
[06:42] <jkavalik> eforehand)?
[06:44] <cim209> why does the cursor turn white inside a browser?
[07:50] <neure> hi
[07:50] <neure> is there command to see network usage?
[07:51] <neure> like up / down for current user
[07:54] <hateball> neure: iftop
[08:14] <quxgyver> My wifi crawls to a near-56k bitrate when I'm streaming audio to a BT headset.
[08:15] <quxgyver> I'm on 18.04.1.
[08:15] <quxgyver> What do I do
[08:15] <quxgyver> I can barely even use the Software Updater when I'm listening to music because it thinks I'm offline.
[08:16] <MacroMan> My server is unresponsive to the shutdown command. It hangs for about a minute, then exits and nothing happens. Where could I start looking?
[08:17] <MacroMan> Some other commands are taking a v.long time to run as well, such as top, which takes about 20 seconds to load
[08:18] <MacroMan> I can see my ctx_sw is high at 34k consistently.
[08:19] <MacroMan> However, CPU load is only 3.7%
[08:19] <MacroMan> And mem usage is low at 6%
[08:25] <yourname123> hell
[08:25] <yourname123> hello
[08:25] <yourname123> on Ubuntu 18.04, my thunderbird has just updated from 52.9 to 60 and my lightning calendar has disappeared !!!
[08:26] <yourname123> I have followed instructions here with no success https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/calendar-updates-issues-thunderbird
[08:26] <yourname123> any ideas ?
[08:31] <SudoBash> who was the fucking idiot who thought it was a good idea to have the keyring prompt pop up 4 times when trying to put in a password to the point that it even interrupts you typing the password???
[08:31] <SudoBash> Someone is the dumbest developer in the entire fucking world
[08:31] <rory> what are you doing when that occurs SudoBash ?
[08:31] <SudoBash> Whats even worse is to get ride of the keyring prompt, you have to remove your password entirely.... ARE ALL OF YOU FUCKING IDIOTS?
[08:31] <SudoBash> rid*
[08:32] <rory> because we  all write software for Ubuntu
[08:32] <rory> check your attitude and come back later
[08:32] <SudoBash> Well someone in the Linux Dev community is a compelte fucking moron
[08:32] <rory> at least one person in this channel is.
[08:32] <cim209> what's a good ftp client that accepts keyless sftp (no priv/pub keys hooked to the ftp client before connection)
[08:32] <SudoBash> Lets annoy users to the point where they want to disable their passwords
[08:32] <SudoBash> SUPER SMART
[08:32] <SudoBash> BRILLIANT
[08:33] <SudoBash> FUCKING STUPID FUCKING IDIOTS STOP FUCKING LINUX AND UBUNTU UP
[08:33] <rory> bye.
[08:33] <SudoBash> STOP FUCKING WRITING BULLSHIT CODE
[08:33] <MacroMan> Can someone kick this rude person please
[08:33] <cim209> lol SudoBash
[08:34] <cim209> can anyone recommend a good sftp client
[08:34] <lotus|NUC> !ops | SudoBash
[08:36] <rory> he's PMming me abuse smh
[08:37] <cim209> rory, paste the convo hah
[08:37] <MacroMan> +1
[08:37] <nik__> Hi, I'm getting some failures while executing Poco package unittests/testsuite on imx board.
[08:37] <nik__> Can somebody help here?
[08:37] <yourname123> it looks like thunderbird has not been compiled entirely !!
[08:37] <yourname123> thunderbird/now 1:60.0+build4-0ubuntu0.18.04.4 amd64  [installé, local]
[08:37] <yourname123> thunderbird-globalmenu/bionic-updates,bionic-security 1:52.9.1+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64
[08:38] <lotus|NUC> !info thunderbird
[08:38] <yourname123> it looks like thunderbird 60 has not been compiled entirely, all other thunderbird related packages are on version 52.9 !!!
[08:38] <yourname123> thunderbird-locale-ar/bionic-updates,bionic-security 1:52.9.1+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64
[08:38] <yourname123> xul-ext-lightning/bionic-updates,bionic-security 1:52.9.1+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64
[08:38] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: dont flood please
[08:39] <yourname123> xul-ext-calendar-timezones/bionic-updates,bionic-security 1:52.9.1+build3-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 amd64
[08:39] <yourname123> has you can see, all these packages shows version 52.9.1 !!
[08:39] <yourname123> while thunderbird is on version 60 !!
[08:39] <lotus|NUC> !latest | yourname123
[08:40] <yourname123> ubottu, hello,
[08:40] <yourname123> ubottu, hello, but you can compile only one peace of a software
[08:41] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: this channel is meant for serious questions, please no trolling here
[08:41] <dadabidet> why can't I have the file type column in the open file dialog in ubuntu 16?
[08:42] <yourname123> lotus|NUC, I am not trolling
[08:42] <yourname123> I need my agenda and ubuntu has messed it up
[08:42] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: wich ubuntu version do you have?
[08:42] <yourname123> so I am here to warn people that there is a problem with thunderbird and its agenda on ubuntu 18.04
[08:43] <cim209> yourname123, i was debating about using thunderbird
[08:43] <cim209> but went with kmail instewad
[08:43] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: so your thunderbird version must be 52.9.1
[08:43] <yourname123> I sudenly lost dozen of important informations, I have backups etc, but  thunderbird refuse to show me its agenda so I cannot read them
[08:43] <yourname123> lotus|NUC, Ubuntu 18.04 provides thunderbird 60 !!!!!!!!
[08:44] <yourname123> apt update && apt dist-upgrade installs Thunderbird 60 !!
[08:44] <yourname123> while all other thunderbird packages are still in 52.9.1
[08:45] <rory> cim209: https://i.imgur.com/Y62vAsS.png
[08:45] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: did you install the thunderbird snap?
[08:45] <yourname123> what is that ?
[08:45] <cim209> iq is 95% lol wut
[08:45] <yourname123> apt install thunderbird
[08:46] <yourname123> I use ubuntu for 12 years now
[08:46] <SudoBash> No Shit... what an idiot
[08:46] <SudoBash> 95%
[08:46] <cim209> rory, he must be feeling like linus torvalds about other people's codes
[08:46] <SudoBash> prompting 4 times while interrupting user typing is not a fucking feature you moron
[08:46] <lotus|NUC> !ot
[08:46] <SudoBash> ONLY IN SOME WARPED DEVS MIND IS THAT A FEATURE
[08:47] <yourname123> lotus|NUC, what is a snap ?
[08:47] <MacroMan> SudoBash: So you've never heard of a bug?
[08:47] <rory> SudoBash: if you walk up to your front door, find it's locked, but do not enter your key, you should not be surprised it remains locked. No matter how loud you shout.
[08:47] <SudoBash> Lets annoy the fuck out of users 4 times every time they have a browser input box prompt for their password when the browser doesn't even store passwords in the keyring, and oh by the way the only way to disable this is to have a blank password.... -> AWESOME FEATURE
[08:47] <rory> SudoBash: if you want unrestricted access to your house you should remove the door.
[08:47] <lotus|NUC> dont feed him guys
[08:48] <SudoBash> 4 FUCKING PROMPTS FOR EVERY INPUT BOX? ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?
[08:48] <ducasse> SudoBash: watch your language, please
[08:48] <SudoBash> FUCK YOU
[08:48] <SudoBash> You're obviously all stupid
[08:48] <SudoBash> 4 prompts for every input box on every page
[08:48] <cim209> SudoBash, seems like you need a fresh install of Ubuntu~
[08:48] <SudoBash> yea what a fucking features
[08:48] <SudoBash> FAIL
[08:49] <SudoBash> UBUNTU = FAIL NOW
[08:49] <yourname123> lotus|NUC, what is a snap ?
[08:49] <lotus|NUC> !snap | yourname123
[08:50] <cim209> SudoBash, the gnome ubuntu? yeah it has lots of bugs
[08:50] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: with snap you can get some higher package versions on ubuntu for some programs
[08:50] <lotus|NUC> cim209: stop that please
[08:51] <cim209> lotus|NUC, do you have experience with ubuntus on macbooks
[08:51] <lotus|NUC> cim209: yes in #ubuntu-discuss
[08:52] <cim209> nice
[08:52] <SudoBash> fucking morons
[08:52] <SudoBash> NAZI fucking idiots
[08:53] <lotus|NUC> !ops | SudoBash
[08:53] <SudoBash> keep on morons
[08:53] <SudoBash> you're all idiots
[08:53] <SudoBash> stop fucking linux up
[08:54] <SudoBash> stop writing shit code
[08:54] <SudoBash> stop being idiots
[08:54] <SudoBash> stop being nazi's
[08:54] <yourname123> lotus|NUC, it looks like there is no TB 60 in Bionic https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/thunderbird
[08:54] <yourname123> Am I looking at the right place ?
[08:54] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: i already told you the bionic version
[08:55] <SudoBash> So how many fucking times your gonna !ops sudobash
[08:55] <SudoBash> fucking stupid bitch ass faggot
[08:55] <niko> SudoBash: could you calm down ?
[08:55] <SudoBash> !ops me against bitch, you fucking morons
[08:56] <SudoBash> no I've been a linux user since I was 12 and I'm 31 now an voicing that it's going to shit
[08:56] <SudoBash> fuck all of you, stop being prick ass faggot nazi's
[08:56] <SudoBash> Stop thinking you know everything, Rory you don't know shit
[08:57] <SudoBash> you'r info was plainly just WRONG
[08:57] <yourname123> lotus|NUC, I got it :
[08:57] <niko> i can understand you are frustated, but moaming here doesn't help or do anything positive, so please stop
[08:57] <yourname123> root@klsm:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-ubuntu-ppa-artful.list
[08:57] <yourname123> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ppa/ubuntu bionic main
[08:58] <yourname123> I use Firefox ESR in order to continue using TabMixPlus
[08:58] <ducasse> niko: please don't feed the troll
[08:58] <lotus|NUC> yourname123: we dont support external ppa's here mate, ask the maintainer of the repo
[08:58] <SudoBash> this has been a problem for 10+ years starting with Gnome 2 and now in Mate
[08:58] <yourname123> unfortunately FF ESR has also upgraded to Webextension version, so I have disabled it and now I have to use an outdated broswer...
[08:59] <yourname123> fuck mozilla hand there broken arms team
[08:59] <yourname123> I know lotus|NUC
[08:59] <SudoBash> I'm going to embarass the fuck out the linux community then with a video of this "Feature" that is the most EPIC fail of ALL TIME UNDER LINUX
[08:59] <lotus|NUC> !language | yourname123
[09:00] <SudoBash> You wanted to call me a troll so I'll just embrass the fuck out of all of you with a "EPIC Linux FAIL Video"
[09:01] <cim209> what is the difference between booting from grubx86.efi and booting from vmlinuz?
[09:07] <MacroMan> What is the latest kernel that Ubuntu 18.04 should be running?
[09:07] <MacroMan> My server is on 4.15.0-36-generic and I just want to check it's the right on
[09:07] <MacroMan> one*
[09:08] <cim209> MacroMan, i'm using that right now
[09:08] <rory> yeah same
[09:08] <MacroMan> cim209: rory Thanks
[09:10] <woodpecker> I need help connecting a Garmin GPS18x USB using gpsbabel and gpsd for use in Open CPN. My first problem is that when I connect the usb device no ttyUSB0 device is created. Each time I have to run: sudo modprobe garmin_gps, to get ttyUSB0 created.  I have checked that i belong to the dialout group and done alot of online reading and troubleshooting with no luck of getting this to work. I have tried to follow this tutorial: https://wik
[09:10] <woodpecker> i.openstreetmap.org/wiki/USB_Garmin_on_GNU/Linux
[09:16] <woodpecker> anyone able to help me?
[09:18] <MacroMan> woodpecker: That's probably because it gets connected in USB transfer mode and you have to switch it. I use usb_modeswitch at boot to switch it automatically
[09:19] <MacroMan> if modprobe garmin_gps works, then just run that in a bash script at boot
[09:19] <MacroMan> Personally I use the @reboot timer in crontab to achieve that, but use any method you see fit
[09:22] <woodpecker> MacroMan how do i do that exactly. I an quite green in terminal
[09:23] <MacroMan> Actually, just noticed you said you plug it in to use, so I assume it's not plugged in at boot?
[09:24] <woodpecker> I have tried both options. Plugged in at boot and not. Jst to check whether or not it will create ttyUSB0
[09:28] <MacroMan> In which case, you don't really have any other option to run your command after plugging it in.
[09:28] <MacroMan> You can assign it to a keyboard shortcut which would save time. See the 'Keyboard' settings page and you'll see a shortcuts tab
[09:30] <woodpecker> i just tried xgps, and i got data input. closed xgps, then opened open cpn but no ttyusb0 available when trying to add a new device. went back to terminal and opened xgps. no data at all..... strange ttyUSB0 is still present
[09:31] <woodpecker> i think i need help tp troubleshoot this from the beginning
[09:34] <MacroMan> Not really sure I can help much more. I only have experience with a usb modem.
[09:34] <woodpecker> ok, thanks
[09:35] <woodpecker> anyone else able to help troubleshooting a garmin usb gps device to talk to open cpn?
[09:36] <Barabacha> how can I check when was the last time I closed my system?
[09:37] <ocelotsloth> Closed as in slept? Or shut down?
[09:38] <ocelotsloth> Barabacha does this help? https://askubuntu.com/a/496584
[09:38] <Barabacha> I restarted it and started windows
[09:38] <Barabacha> to be exact
[09:39] <Barabacha> actually I cut off the power once I saw I'll have to wait 10 minutes for the mysql service to shutdown lol
[09:40] <Barabacha> I just want to know when that was
[09:41] <Barabacha> also, is there a way to disable the animations when I switch between different desktops?
[09:42] <blackflow> Barabacha: command `uptime` will tell you how long it's been running, or journalctl -b will tell you when the current boot session started
[09:47] <Barabacha> blackflow: what about the earlier boots?
[09:49] <blackflow> Barabacha: if you have persistent journal, you can use -b with offset (see the manpage of journalctl) to look into previous boot sessions
[09:50] <blackflow> Barabacha: otherwise you'd have to dig through /var/log/syslog.* and look for lines containing "kernel: [    0.000000]"   that's around the start of a boot
[09:56] <jkavalik> hello here, I have a question about apt - when I do "apt install php" it tries to install apache2, looking at dependencies I see that php is a metapackage depending on php7.2 and php7.2 shows dependencies as "libapache2-mod-php7.2 | php7.2-fpm | php7.2-cgi, php7.2-common" - is there some way to let it ask which of the mod_php|fpm|cgi should it install if unmet? or do I have to run "apt install php-fpm php" (which means searching for the available options b
[09:56] <jkavalik> eforehand)?
[10:00] <blackflow> jkavalik: beforehand or in the same apt command
[10:05] <jkavalik> I would prefer the same command - if there are alternatives, give them to me and do not select magically
[10:17] <enzotib> Barabacha, also: last reboot
[10:17] <Greyztar> tryna resque ubuntu install from systemrescuecd,did all my fixes,reboot rinse repeat few times until we get we actually have to mount the actually fs of ubuntu and not do our fixes on systemrescuecd as its prolly good as is -_-
[10:29] <martinrame> Hi, there's something wrong in a old 12.04 server on one of my customers. The command "passwd" does nothing, it should ask for the new password for the user, but it simply does nothing.
[10:30] <martinrame> what can be happening?
[10:31] <ducasse> martinrame: 12.04 is eol, and thus unsupported. you can get paid support from canonical, though.
[10:31] <enzotib> martinrame: try with the full path: /usr/bin/passwd, to be sure there is not another passwd executable you are running
[10:31] <ducasse> !esm | martinrame
[10:31] <martinrame> enzotib: I've tried /usr/bin/passwd and I've got the same.
[10:37] <irwiss> could try strace-ing ot to see if it gets stuck somewhere
[10:43] <eightfold> hi. whatever server i seem to set in software updater, i seem to get "failed to download repository information"
[10:44] <eightfold> and "failed to download package files"
[10:44] <eightfold> "check your internet connection".
[10:44] <eightfold> my internet connection is fine. as you can see from the messages you are receiving.
[10:59] <ghost2911> hi. how to show security updates to install in terminal ?
[10:59] <blackflow> jkavalik: what I meant was, you need to install php7.2-fpm beforehand or in the same apt command. there's no other way to select an alternative provider for a dependency.
[11:03] <jkavalik> blackflow, I see, thanks for confirming
[11:10] <coconut> blackflow: is this any different on other package systems that you know?
[11:10] <blackflow> yes, on source based distros you can pre-select dependencies.
[11:11] <blackflow> portage, freebsd ports.
[11:11] <coconut> ^-^
[11:18] <omarek> Hi sound doesn't work, alsamixer was printing "no such file or directory", I added my user to "audio" group. Now my alsamixer starts but I still don't hear sound.
[11:18] <omarek> It happened after I installed lightdm and switched to it.
[11:19] <omarek> But I had an annoying error message at startup so I switched to lxdm and here we are.
[11:20] <omarek> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04
[11:21] <omarek> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device a2f0 <--- lspci output
[11:38] <omarek> Thanks!
[11:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:06] <tomreyn> !sound | Try this (if you haven't), omarek
[12:12] <sauna> Hi, I have a problem with a gaming PC. I have windows but I would like to wipe my SSD (512GB), but ubuntu 18 does not see it under disks ... only sees the 3TB storage HDD, but I want to put my root system on SSD.
[12:12] <sauna> It might be a PCIe SSD, not sure
[12:15] <ioria> sauna, i'd check BIOS if some  RAID stuff is set instead of AHCI.
[12:29] <omarek> tomreyn: I don't have Gnome or Unity installed. I use i3.
[12:29] <omarek> But I will follow the troubleshooting guide.
[12:29] <omarek> Cause I like shooting things.
[12:30] <NightStrike> I have an old server running 10 LTS that wasn't able to be upgraded.  Someone claims to have hacked it and stolen a pgsql database.  I checked wtmp, and it seems to have been deleted (I guess b/c no logins for a long time?) .  Any suggestions on what else to check?
[12:32] <blackflow> NightStrike: nothing. if you think it's compromised, you can't trust ANYTHING on the machine. you can only shut it down and do offline checks. which requires you to have an IDS installed with a database you can compare against. which you probably don't.
[12:33] <blackflow> However, you can walk away with a very important lesson here. Don't run unprotected, unpatched systems on public internet. Esp if you don't know how to protect them.
[12:34] <NightStrike> it's not really a lesson for me.. I only inherited this very recently
[12:35] <rory> NightStrike: if it's compromised you should assume everything is owned. check /var/log/auth.log but if it's owned, the hacker can edit this log too
[12:35] <rory> NightStrike: honestly just reinstall it, it doesn't need a sysadmin, it's running an unsupported OS and it's confirmed hacked - it needs a priest.
[12:35] <NightStrike> generally speaking, if the person did get in as root and edited stuff, there's the possibility that he wasn't thorough
[12:35] <blackflow> so why advise looking into files you can't trust. you can't trust anything on the machine, if you think it's compromised. anything.
[12:36] <rory> I guess as an academic question it's interesting.
[12:36] <NightStrike> but my guess is that it was just done externally... it looks like the version of pg was 8.4.22
[12:36] <rory> you should assume the hacker is a genius and is doing funky stuff like installing a hacked version of "ps" that doesn't display his backdoor
[12:36] <blackflow> that system is probably suffering from a number of remote code execution vulns in the kernel, esp. the networking subsystem, so I'd say it's was a piece of cake to pwn that machine, for anyone with a knowhow.
[12:37] <blackflow> there have been a number of them since ubuntu 10's kernel was last patched. last RCE in the network stack was last year.
[12:37] <blackflow> (last publicly known)
[12:38] <blackflow> rory: or the vuln is such that it accessed any file or any process having elevated the compromised process to root, wihtout touching a tool on the fs. without leaving a bit in the logs. this is quite likely, given the age of the kernel.
[12:39] <NightStrike> I do see a near constant stream of fail2ban logs showing ssh attempts
[12:40] <JimBuntu> NightStrike, is the machine using port 22?
[12:40] <NightStrike> yeah :)
[12:40] <blackflow> that's normal if you keep ssh on default port 22. which you shouldn't. and fail2ban is false sense of security. it doesn't work against distributed attacks.
[12:40] <NightStrike> I don't know why anyone would run ssh on port 22
[12:42] <blackflow> I think you're wasting too much time on this. Assume it totally compromised in the past 8 years, wipe it out, and reinstall Bionic :)
[12:42] <quxgyver> My wifi crawls to a near-56k bitrate when I'm streaming audio to a BT headset. I can barely even use the Software Updater when I'm listening to music because it thinks I'm offline due to the slow connection. I'm on 18.04.1 and I've attempted to get help here for weeks. What can I do to fix this
[12:42] <rory> Bionic really is an excellent release. The best yet, even accounting for being a product of its time. Prior to 18.04, the best release was probably 8.04
[12:43] <NilsFR13> Hi,
[12:43] <blackflow> quxgyver: is the headset using wifi or bluetooth? if the former, some routers will downgrade speed on all ports to the slowest port.
[12:44] <quxgyver> blackflow: I said BT.
[12:44] <blackflow> quxgyver: ah, I didn't read that as bluetooth. sorry. then I don't know.
[12:44] <quxgyver> np
[12:44] <NightStrike> blackflow: I'm not just trying to make it secure again. I was trying to determine concretely what was taken.
[12:45] <blackflow> NightStrike: assuming logs weren't altered, there's nothing in them except warnings or errors. unless postgres is sset up to log all queries, there won't be anythingin the logs except auth failures maybe.
[12:46] <blackflow> so you could look for those. auth failures, sudo failures, segfaults in the processes whihc might explain RCE vectors, if any were used. if the kernel was compromised, chances are there's nothing in the logs.
[12:47] <NilsFR13> I have some trouble when booting, system does not start, I have one SSD drive, wich works well, and a pair of mirror RAID drives, on the RAID volume, they are 2 partitions, wich are not shown anywhere, not blkid, lsblk, ls /dev/disk, do not show partition on RAID volume, Ubuntu is 18.04
[12:47] <blackflow> but none of that will tell you what was modified. for that you'd need an IDS and a database of known file states.
[12:47] <NilsFR13> the 2 partition are /home and /var
[12:48] <blackflow> NightStrike: how's RAID done? mdadm or something else?
[12:48] <NightStrike> mdadm
[12:48] <blackflow> sorry that was for NilsFR13 :)
[12:49] <NightStrike> hah
[12:49] <NilsFR13> RAID is hardware RAID, I do not understand "mdadm"
[12:49] <NightStrike> I lied anyway, looks like it's a hardware raid :)
[12:49] <NightStrike> NilsFR13: mdadm is a linux software raid. it's actually pretty decent.
[12:49] <blackflow> NightStrike: so your system should see only one disk, eg /dev/sda right?
[12:49] <NilsFR13> NightStrike, ok, no, it is not software RAID
[12:50] <NightStrike> yeah
[12:50] <blackflow> ugh :)    NilsFR13 ^^^
[12:50] <blackflow> Ni<tab> fail
[12:50] <NightStrike> RAID bus controller: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic MegaRAID SAS 1078 (rev 04)
[12:50] <NightStrike> hahah
[12:50] <NightStrike> ok, I'll stop responding to raid questions :P
[12:51] <blackflow> NightStrike: you have that in JBOD mode I hope and are running mdadm? ;)
[12:51] <blackflow> NilsFR13: so your system should see only one disk, eg /dev/sda right?
[12:51] <NilsFR13> NightStrike, problem start after upgrading U16.04 to U18.04,
[12:52] <Barabacha> how can I get the /path/to/file in the file browser?
[12:53] <NilsFR13> NightStrike, I see sda, sdb, wich are drive for RAID volume, and sdc1,2,3,4,5,6 wich is SSD drive
[12:53] <NightStrike> NilsFR13: blackflow is the one helping you
[12:54] <blackflow> NilsFR13: wait. how many disks from the mirror array does your OS see? It should be just ONE if you're using hardware raid. if you see two, then you are not using hardware raid or it's broken/misconfigured.
[12:54] <NilsFR13> oups, sorry NightStrike
[12:55] <NilsFR13> blackflow, ls /dev/sd* show sda, sdb, (disk for RAID volume), sdc => ssd drive where is / , /home and /var are on RAID volume), I do not see anything refering to /home and /var
[12:57] <blackflow> NilsFR13: you're not being precise enough, I dont' understand if you mean sda+sdb are RAID,   or there sda, then there's sdb (which is two-disk RAID), and sdc (which is ssd)    ?
[12:57] <NilsFR13> blackflow, I had a look to the RAID BIOS, nothing to repare there, BIOS is just showing drives and volume
[12:57] <blackflow> and also, is this fakeraid?
[12:57] <blackflow> (aka BIOS raid, aka not really raid but a terrible solution nobody in their right mind should be using at all)
[12:57] <NilsFR13> blackflow, sda and sdb are hardware RAID
[12:58] <blackflow> NilsFR13: so, sda has two or more disks, and sdb has two or more disks? are you understanding what I'm saying? because if you see two (sda and sdb) then you do NOT have hardware raid mirror. if you had it, you would see only ONE disk -- the array itself.
[12:58] <NilsFR13> blackflow, how can I check you last question => if you mean sda+sdb are RAID ...
[12:59] <NilsFR13> blackflow, but, I am sure it is hardware mirror RAID1
[12:59] <blackflow> NilsFR13: if it were hardware raid1 then your OS would only see one disk.
[13:00] <blackflow> if it sees two, and those two are _supposed_ to be part of RAID1, the array is broken or misconfigured in bios.
[13:01] <NilsFR13> blackflow, ok, I understand, but, the problem is the system sees 2 disks, and I guess, system does see RAID1 volume
[13:01] <blackflow> NilsFR13: A RAID volume would present itself as one disk, and the OS would see just one, not individual members of the array. unless it was broken.
[13:02] <blackflow> is it fakeraid? what's the raid controller you're using?
[13:02] <NilsFR13> blackflow, I know there is no more than 3 disks in my computer, 2 SATA for RAID1, and 1 SSD || SSD => / || RAID1 => /home and /var, and swap partition
[13:03] <blackflow> NilsFR13: it is _very_ hard to me to give you support since you have zero clue what I'm talking about. why are you using raid if you don't know anything about it.
[13:03] <blackflow> I have no idea what words to use or how to describe the problem to you since you don't have a clue what I'm talking about.   I'm out.
[13:03] <NilsFR13> blackflow, what gre
[13:04] <NilsFR13> blackflow, lspci shows 00;1f.2 RAID bus controler Intel corporation sata controler [RAID mode] rev 05
[13:06] <blackflow> if it's hardware raid there's nothing you can do from the software side, your OS would see only one disk. if you see two, it is broken or misconfigured at the controller/hardware level, probably in BIOS.
[13:06] <NilsFR13> blackflow, why are you agressive like this ?, I do not understand this ?, I try to answer question as best as I can
[13:06] <blackflow> which I wouldn't know how to help you with anyway, I haven't touched hardware raid in years.
[13:07] <NilsFR13> blackflow, ok, I will check this with one liveCD, to check out how liveCD sees drives
[13:08] <NilsFR13> blackflow, I check this out, and be back ...
[13:16] <NilsFR13> blackflow, liveCD shows the same, (+ flashkey => liveCD)
[13:16] <Koopz> tail -f /var/log/*log
[13:17] <Koopz> i got a fresh install of 18.04 LTS, trying to figure out why i can't access a docker-container's exposed port
[13:18] <Koopz> i'm getting a "Connection refused"
[13:18] <Apachez> how do I temporarily disable the systemd-resolve in ubuntu 18.04 and then a few minutes later reenable it ?
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> NilsFR13: Then your hardware RAID controller is broken.
[13:19] <blackflow> NilsFR13: then you don't have properly set up hardware raid there. the OS should see only one disk.
[13:19] <pragmaticenigma> Apachez: can you explain why you would want to?
[13:20] <blackflow> NilsFR13: and the thing with hardware raid is that there's nothing you can do on the software side. no logs to check, no configs to correct, nothing to apt install. if the controller is broken, and you need exactly the same one as replacement --- or it's just a matter of (mis)config in BIOS.
[13:21] <blackflow> NilsFR13: now, it is possible that's fakeraid (aka BIOS raid), for which I _think_ you need kernel modules, which should be autodetected, so that's the only thing you can apt install, if its not already, to remedy the situation.
[13:22] <NilsFR13> blackflow, ls /dev/mapper shows 2 RAID volume xxxxx_Volume1p1 -> ../dm-1 and  xxxxx_Volume1P2 -> ../dm-2
[13:23] <blackflow> sounds like fakeraid I think. could be wrong.
[13:24] <blackflow> see if anyone else can help with fakeraid. I don't have experience there, and I ahve to step out of the office now anyway
[13:30] <NilsFR13> ok, thanks, bye, blackflow
[13:53] <Koopz> when ufw is inactive i won't have to worry about it blocking anything, right?
[13:54] <lotus|NUC> Koopz: depends if you have a router block/firewall/isp?
[13:54] <edmoore> I've more-or-less abandoned any hope of happiness when getting my bose QC35 bluetooth headphones to connect to 18.04 properly. I was wondering if there existed a usb soundcard bluetooth thing that handled all the bluetooth and just appeared as an audio sink to ubuntu? And if so if anyone could recommend one?
[13:55] <lotus|NUC> edmoore: https://certification.ubuntu.com/
[13:56] <Koopz> how does my router or isp affect my local area network?
[13:56] <NoImNotNineVolt> well, presumably your router is your switch.
[13:59] <NoImNotNineVolt> also, your isp may affect your local network if your router sets upstream dns based on its wan dhcp lease.
[13:59] <TJ-> I've just noticed logrotate jobs (e.g. kern.log) haven't been running since Jan 2017 (on a system that was d-r-u from 16.04 > 18.04). I've reviewed cron/anacron/logrotate configs but can't identify why. Any suggestions on how to further debug this?
[14:00] <Koopz> http://koopz.rocks/s/2018-10-04_16-00-17.png
[14:03] <NoImNotNineVolt> why so much firewalling?
[14:03] <Koopz> idk? i just installed docker
[14:04] <NoImNotNineVolt> can you curl localhost:3000 successfully inside that one docker container?
[14:04] <nickbarnes> Hi. How can I inspect the current contents of the udev queue? udevadm settle is timing out and I don't know why.
[14:05] <bane500> Hey guys... I'm running ubuntu on an older server with two tesla's and It's asking me if i want to use the nvidia binary driver, or the driver metapackage or the xorg x server
[14:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> might be the app itself is broken :P
[14:05] <bane500> Currently using the xserver-xorg-nouveau and having login issues, etc
[14:05] <Koopz> NoImNotNineVolt damn... i get a connection refused even in there
[14:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> see! :)
[14:05] <NoImNotNineVolt> so it's not docker, it's not ubuntu, it's not iptables/etc, it's just your app :)
[14:06] <bane500> Well i chose the nvidia metapackage driver, so we'll find out what happens
[14:06] <bane500> Hopefully I can still login xd
[14:10] <Apachez> pragmaticenigma: I resolved it, killed it with systemctl
[14:12] <bane500> Alright, I'm having tons of issues getting the correct GPU device to load correctly l
[14:15] <rory> Is there a desktop client that supports Office 365 Outlook email? Or is the webmail the best option? Outlook 365 webmail is pretty good.
[14:17] <bane500> webmail
[14:17] <TJ-> rory: I use Mozilla thunderbird with IMAP connection
[14:17] <rory> IMAP not an option, it would need to "natively" support O365 - I don't even think it's Exchange, its its own thing
[14:18] <rory> webmail in Firefox is probably my best option.
[14:20] <TJ-> rory: there's DavMail that provides a standards-compliant interface to MS Exchange and its proprietary extensions
[14:24] <rory> ok, ty for the options folks
[14:24] <bane500> https://snag.gy/7eOLl5.jpg this is what my syslog is doing after installing the new driver
[14:24] <bane500> it's going absolutely bananas
[14:32] <ocx32> hi all i am trying to i stalla ubuntu 18 64biy on my amd opteron 1250 server when pressi g on i stall ubuntu i grt an error no irq handler for vector and it hangs there any idea?
[14:36] <gpunk> this might help you http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=105847
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> gpunk: That article is for Debian
[14:43] <gpunk> so?
[14:45] <pragmaticenigma> gpunk: it's not encouraged. There are significant differences between how Ubuntu boot loads and Debian boot loads.
[14:45] <ocx32> weirdly my bios says i have an opteron 1250 and i cant fi d it online need to know if it is 32 or 64bit
[14:45] <gpunk> it s a kernel issue, it could happend for rch too
[14:45] <gpunk> it is a 64 bit
[14:46] <gpunk> try that fix ocx32 ...
[14:49] <pragmaticenigma> I see no listing of an Opteron 1250... where did you find that information gpunk ?
[14:59] <jforman> hi all. how long does it take for a kernel to move from the proposed ubuntu repo to release?
[15:00] <pragmaticenigma> jforman: depends on the nature of the patch. sometimes 24 hours, sometimes a week.
[15:03] <pragmaticenigma> jforman: another way to see it, if it is to mitigate a vulnerability, they move faster than a feature enhancements or bug fix
[15:04] <jforman> pragmaticenigma: ack, it's a feature enhancement, not a vulnerability. good to know it could be a ~week. thanks!
[15:07] <pragmaticenigma> jforman: best to make sure things are working and well tested before release to the wild
[15:08] <jforman> totally agreeed, i was just curious what the cadence is there.
[15:08] <TJ-> jforman: generally it happens once the bug report has received confirmations it works without regressions, via being tagged.
[16:23] <Khaotic> when will kernel 4.17 be released?
[16:24] <nacc> Khaotic: it won't be?
[16:24] <nacc> Khaotic: unless you mean upstream, and it has been.
[16:24] <gpunk> never?
[16:24] <Khaotic> idk what that means?
[16:24] <Khaotic> im not familiar with the whole update lifecycle
[16:24] <nacc> Khaotic: you don't understand with "it won't be"?
[16:24] <Khaotic> from what im reading, my blueooth card isnt supported until kernel 4.17
[16:24] <nacc> Khaotic: 4.17 is not the planned or existing kernel for any ubuntu releasa
[16:25] <Khaotic> oh
[16:25] <nacc> Khaotic: aiui, 18.10 will get 4.18; and it will be the hwe kernel in 18.04.2 when it comes out
[16:25] <Khaotic> is there a place i can find release schedule?
[16:25] <nacc> Khaotic: alternatively, you could run 18.04 hwe-edge and it might be there now
[16:25] <Khaotic> hwe?
[16:25] <nacc> !hwe | Khaotic
[16:26] <nacc> Khaotic: 18.04.2 tentatively for februrary 2019
[16:26] <Khaotic> o
[16:27] <Khaotic> thanks
[16:27] <nacc> !info linux-generic-hwe-18.04-edge bionic
[16:27] <nacc> Khaotic: it's only bionic-proposed apparently, so not sure if you should use that :)
[16:27] <Khaotic> im sorta lost
[16:28] <leftyfb> Khaotic: the more important question is, why do you think you need 4.17?
[16:28] <nacc> leftyfb: bluetooth card support, they aid
[16:28] <Khaotic> [11:24:49] <Khaotic> from what im reading, my blueooth card isnt supported until kernel 4.17
[16:28] <nacc> *said
[16:29] <leftyfb> ah, missed that
[16:29] <Khaotic> which is weird
[16:29] <Khaotic> bc it was working before
[16:29] <Khaotic> then i rebooted, now it's asying it doesnt have an adapter
[16:29] <hwpplayer1> Hi people
[16:29] <Khaotic> sometimes the adapter shows, some times it doesnt
[16:29] <Khaotic> idk why, but i read online that it work in 4.17
[16:30] <Khaotic> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1040184/kubuntu-18-04-asus-rog-strix-z370-i-gaming-bluetooth-not-working
[16:30] <Katnip> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/ukuu-easy-way-to-install-mainline-kernel-ubuntu
[16:32] <Khaotic> hmmm
[16:33] <Khaotic> looks like i might just need to wait a few weeks for 18.10
[16:33] <Khaotic> ukuu seems like a bad idea
[16:34] <blackhaze> hola
[16:34] <blackhaze> hello everybody
[16:34] <Butterfly^> why Khaotic ?
[16:34] <Butterfly^> UKUU works flawless for me
[16:34] <Butterfly^> and i'm not even using Ubuntu
[16:34] <Khaotic> you an i likely have different systems, so likely different results
[16:34] <Butterfly^> hasn't failed me once in 2 years, and i'm always on very recent kernel
[16:35] <Butterfly^> Timeshift backup, easy rolling back
[16:36] <nacc> Butterfly^: why are you using the mainline kernel regularly?
[16:37] <nacc> Khaotic: yes, i agree, i would try with 18.10 -- you can even just use the live usb now and see if it works?
[16:37] <Butterfly^> 4.18.7-041807-generic
[16:38] <Khaotic> link?
[16:38] <nacc> Khaotic: link to which?
[16:38] <Butterfly^> i just like to hop on new kernels, even rc kernels, to see how reliable they are
[16:38] <Khaotic> liveusb?
[16:38] <nacc> Butterfly^: reliability of an rc kernel is a farce.
[16:38] <Butterfly^> nacc : hasn't failed me once in over 2 year
[16:38] <nacc> Butterfly^: that's nice, please stop suggesting it in the support channel.
[16:38] <Butterfly^> rc3 is the first one i would jump on though
[16:38] <nacc> Butterfly^: it even mentions on that page, and others that it's purely for testing.
[16:39] <Butterfly^> i wasn't suggesting rc kernels :)
[16:39] <nacc> Butterfly^: all mainline kernels are for testing
[16:39] <nacc> Khaotic: i mean, set up a installer usb (for desktop), you can 'try ubuntu' from it
[16:40] <Khaotic> oh...you mean when 18.10 is released?
[16:41] <nacc> Khaotic: no, right now, see #ubuntu+1; 18.10 is at beta now
[16:42] <nacc> Khaotic: http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.10/
[16:42] <Khaotic> that link doesnt work for me
[16:43] <Khaotic> ah...i see a plugin i had was forcing ssl
[17:12] <TJ-> Khaotic: your sometimes-seen-sometimes-not issue with the BT adapter could well be a bug/issue with the PC's firmware, specifically its ACPI implementation. Is there a pattern to it? E.g. Is it seen after a cold-boot but not after a suspend/resume, or warm-reboot ?
[17:13] <Khaotic> TJ-, i never tried to correlate it after i noticed it the second time
[17:13] <Khaotic> i tried a hard reboot as well as a soft-reboot and it hasnt come back yet
[17:14] <Khaotic> i even tried to reinstall the bluez package, still nothing
[17:14] <Khaotic> im really curious, bc it's the integrated into the mobo, as well as the wifi, which jhust recently started working
[17:14] <TJ-> Khaotic: is the BT device connected (internally) via USB (most are) ?
[17:14] <Khaotic> it's builtin to the mobo
[17:15] <Khaotic> i have the asus ROG z370e mobo
[17:15] <TJ-> Khaotic: let's see some logs. show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; lsusb;  dmesg )"
[17:16] <TJ-> Khaotic: usually these devices use PCI for the Wifi and USB for the Bluetooth side, even when on a single adapter/chip
[17:16] <Khaotic> pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; lsusb;  dmesg )
[17:16] <Khaotic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N7CjqTqybx/
[17:16] <Khaotic> didnt realize pastebinit was a command
[17:16] <Khaotic> that's awesome
[17:17] <TJ-> Khaotic: give me a few minutes to digest it :)
[17:18] <Khaotic> thank you. i really appreciate the help
[17:20] <Ophiocus> hello there, i am getting a criptic message about NFS woes using vagrant,.. internet says i should get UDP enebled in the NFS configuration file,.. thing is i cant find which that should be?
[17:21] <Ophiocus> ergo, how can i find out where is the configuration file of the nfs service?(in vagrant terms, on the host)
[17:27] <TJ-> Khaotic: OK, I believe I've found an explanation and a possible workaround
[17:27] <Khaotic> ok
[17:27] <TJ-> Khaotic: I need to check the source-code the rtl8822be driver to be sure, so another few minutes
[17:28] <Khaotic> ok
[17:29] <blackhaze> somebody knows how much cost a raspberry pi?
[17:29] <Khaotic> like $30 i paid for mine
[17:29] <lotus|NUC> !ot | blackhaze
[17:32] <TJ-> Khaotic: can you tell me if "lsmod | grep btusb" reports the 'btusb' module?
[17:32] <Khaotic> nothing
[17:33] <TJ-> Khaotic: OK, that's fine. Just means we will (later) need to load it manually. Now I'm going to put together a command to identify where the USB device is in the hardware hierachy
[17:33] <Khaotic> ok
[17:33] <blackhaze> I got a problem with arduino nano in kubuntu
[17:34] <Guy1524_> hello, I would like to know whether the visual studio code snap in the Ubuntu store is the OSS version or the proprietary version
[17:34] <blackhaze> when I upload my sketch it does not anything and it return an error
[17:35] <rfm> Ophiocus, NFS over UDP has been effectively obsolete for over a decade, but if you really think you need it one generally specifies it in the mount options on the client...
[17:38] <TJ-> Khaotic: show us "pastebinit <( for n in /sys/bus/usb/devices/?-*/id{Vendor,Product}; do echo $n=$(cat $n); done | sort ) "
[17:38] <Krock> Guy1524_: you could look which category it is in. "main" would be Canonical supported FLOSS, "universe" from the ubuntu community, "restricted" are proprietary drivers and "multiverse" non-free applications
[17:39] <Khaotic> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bHm9YjBfFt/
[17:40] <Krock> And hello. I'm also here for a quick question because DuckDuckGo didn't provide the help I'd need. Using 18.04 and keyboard-setup.service is taking a very long time to start up: http://paste.debian.net/plain/1045918 What could I do? Would it affect my PS/2 keyboard if I changed anything there?
[17:40] <Elliria> Hey there, can I ask about rsync in here or is there another channel I should go to?
[17:42] <Krock> Elliria: how about #rsync ?
[17:43] <masaki> do i have to manually run $ snap refresh
[17:43] <masaki> or do snap apps update themselves?
[17:43] <Elliria> Yep, thanks. I went there.
[17:43] <lotus|NUC> masaki: you can update snaps via terminal or gnome software centre
[17:44] <masaki> lotus|NUC, what command do I run to update snaps via terminal?
[17:45] <lotus|NUC> masaki: snap refresh <snap name>
[17:47] <masaki> lotus|NUC, thank you :)
[17:49] <blip99> hi all, what's the standard way of checking and fixing file system errors on Ubunttu 18.04?  note that my /home is encrypted
[17:50] <TJ-> Khaotic: One last bit of info required: "pastebinit <( tree /sys/bus/usb/devices/ )"
[17:50] <TJ-> Khaotic: if 'tree' isn't installed do "sudo apt install tree"
[17:50] <lotus|NUC> !fsck | blip99 can this help?
[17:51] <Khaotic> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rvHjrwXCc4/
[17:52] <blip99> lotus|NUC, thanks, i'll run this reboot and check now.  1 question - I'm checking because my laptop scans fs on every single boot - it started doing this a month ago
[17:53] <TJ-> Khaotic: OK, we're ready: "sudo modprobe btusb && echo -n '1-8:1.0' | sudo dd of=/sys/bus/usb/drivers/btusb/bind" - at this point we've told the Bluetooth USB (btusb) module to attach to (bind) the device 1-8:1.0 (which is the "0b05:1872 ASUSTek Computer, Inc." device as shown by 'lsusb'.
[17:54] <Khaotic> now what?
[17:54] <TJ-> Khaotic: if you now do "pastebinit <( dmesg | tail -n 50)" we may see the device has been attached
[17:54] <Khaotic> dd: error writing '/sys/bus/usb/drivers/btusb/bind': No such device
[17:55] <TJ-> Khaotic: ghah! that suggests 'btusb' module didn't load. Check that with "lsmod | grep btusb"
[17:55] <Khaotic> btusb                  45056  0
[17:55] <Khaotic> btrtl                  16384  1 btusb
[17:55] <Khaotic> btbcm                  16384  1 btusb
[17:55] <Khaotic> btintel                16384  1 btusb
[17:55] <Khaotic> bluetooth             548864  4 btrtl,btintel,btbcm,btusb
[17:56] <coconut_> !paste
[17:56] <Khaotic> lol
[17:56] <TJ-> Khaotic: so, it *is* loaded. Now lets check the sysfs with "pastebinit <( tree /sys/bus/usb/drivers )"
[17:56] <Khaotic> loaking links takes longer than looking at 4 small lines...
[17:57] <Khaotic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HZgZhC2tSW/
[17:57] <TJ-> Khaotic: if everyone pasted even 2 lines it soon gets impossible to follow, which is why we use pastebin
[17:57] <Khaotic> :/
[17:57] <Khaotic> well sorry
[17:57] <TJ-> Khaotic: OK, so the "No such device" is due to the "1-8:1.0" part I think
[17:59] <Khaotic> which means?
[17:59] <TJ-> Khaotic: oh, so maybe I've got the wrong device. That's already bound to the USB Human Interface Device (usbhid) driver.
[17:59] <pikapika> Why is the opt folder root owned by default? I thought it was meant for installing non-apt apps
[17:59] <cim209> does anyone know why the weather widget search button in kubuntu is greyed out?
[18:01] <nacc> pikapika: because admins should be the only one to install system-wide file.
[18:01] <nacc> *files
[18:01] <cim209> nvm, i had to add some sources in a dropdown
[18:03] <TJ-> Khaotic: ah, yes, I have the wrong USB ID. From your earlier (first) pastebin that shows the "lsusb" it seems the device ID of the Bluetooth device isn't showing up on the USB bus *at all*. I misread the 1872 as being it, when the device is actually 185c.
[18:03] <Khaotic> :(
[18:03] <TJ-> Khaotic: which means the device seems to have literally stopped working at a hardware level, or the PC firmware has disabled/hidden it. Have you checked in the firmware setup (at boot-time) for anyu options affecting that?
[18:04] <Khaotic> i havent touched the bios setting in a long time
[18:04] <Khaotic> like i said, it worked a few days ago
[18:04] <Khaotic> and this mobo is fairly new
[18:05] <TJ-> Khaotic: Does it dual-boot with Windows?
[18:05] <Khaotic> no
[18:06] <TJ-> Khaotic: this could be the original issue I suggested: ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface)
[18:06] <Khaotic> ?
[18:06] <TJ-> Khaotic: let me review the original kernel dmesg log again in case I missed a clue
[18:08] <TJ-> Khaotic: there are some ACPI errors, relating to power domains, which cold be relevant
[18:09] <TJ-> Khaotic: I wrote an article with a workaround that might help if it is the usual ACPI problem; try this (it will require a reboot) and report back. http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[18:10] <Khaotic> what might go wrong?
[18:13] <lotus|NUC> Khaotic: few days it worked, other kernels involved?
[18:15] <Khaotic> i do remember a kernel upgrade casused it to work then a kernel up[grade caused it not to work i think
[18:15] <Khaotic> the minor 4.15 upgrade i think
[18:15] <Khaotic> i could be wrong. could be thinking of kali upgrades
[18:17] <Khaotic> TJ-, i just run the script?
[18:17] <huggabean> How does one force a VPN connection in Network Manager? Is that possible?
[18:18] <huggabean> I have a VPN connection added already but I have to manually activate it after the wireless connects. I would like to make that automatic if possible
[18:19] <Khaotic> TJ-,
[18:19] <Khaotic> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K7rCkqT9Xv/
[18:20] <Khaotic> looks like your script had no effect
[18:28] <ChiLLabiS> I want to know too about the VPN question huggabean asked
[18:30] <TJ-> Khaotic: hmmm, that's rather strange
[18:30] <lotus|NUC> huggabean ChiLLabiS can this help guys? https://linuxconfig.org/simple-openvpn-connection-setup-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[18:31] <ArminiusTux> Hi, I could need some help forcibly mounting a disc drive on Bionic.
[18:32] <Khaotic> TJ-, never it did after reboot
[18:32] <Khaotic> but, yeah, still not working
[18:33] <huggabean> thanks lotus|NUC
[18:35] <ChiLLabiS> I already got an VPN does that work with OpenVPN? :S
[18:36] <shrimants> hello
[18:36] <TJ-> Khaotic: oh, my script is a bit out-of-order, but the change should have taken - the message was misleading. What does "cat /proc/cmdline" report ?
[18:36] <shrimants> im having a lot of issues mounting a windows network drive on an ubuntu vm
[18:37] <shrimants> i keep getting mount error(13): Permission Denied
[18:38] <Khaotic> TJ-, it reports as expected
[18:38] <Khaotic> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-36-generic root=UUID=9bb7fd5a-f1ad-4701-ba07-e601a84f0050 ro acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015" quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[18:39] <nacc> ArminiusTux: shrimants: you both need to provide more details to get help. What you have tried, specific commands, etc. Use a pastebin for multiple lines.
[18:40] <TJ-> Khaotic: OK, good. so now lets look at the kernel log and hardware list in case it has improved matters: "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; lsusb; dmesg )"
[18:40] <migs767> hello
[18:40] <Khaotic> pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; lsusb; dmesg )
[18:41] <migs767> does anyone know how to get an ipod touch to show up in the file manager? I want to transfer some music. It showed up once, but I took it out and now it dowsn't show up. Is there a way to force mount it?
[18:41] <shrimants> ive basically tried this in /etc/fstab: //192.168.1.209/public /media/NAS cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8 0 0
[18:42] <shrimants> and ive tried any combination of username= password= and none of that is working. i've verified that the username/password combo im using is correct. I'm also not able to go into file managerr and navigate manually to the share via "other locations". same issue, it keeps asking me for username and password
[18:43] <nacc> shrimants: rather than using fstab (comment that line out), have you successfully mounted it every with `mount.cifs`?
[18:43] <nacc> shrimants: if you have not, get that working first
[18:44] <shrimants> alright, i'll give that a go.
[18:44] <nacc> shrimants: and to debug it much further, you'll probably need to be able to see the logs on the windows share server as well
[18:45] <shrimants> thats not a problem, this is a linux VM running in hyperV on a windows host
[18:46] <migs767> hello
[18:46] <migs767>  does anyone know how to get an ipod touch to show up in the file manager? I want to transfer some music. It showed up once, but I took it out and now it dowsn't show up. Is there a way to force mount it?
[18:50] <shrimants> this is going to sound stupid, but if i do mount.cifs //server/share /media/folder it says "no match for /media/folder in /etc/fstab"
[18:50] <shrimants> i thought you said to remove that line
[18:51] <lotus|NUC> !iphone | migs767
[18:51] <nacc> shrimants: right, you need to provide a full mount line. e..g, with all the options specified on the commandline, etc.
[18:51] <lotus|NUC> migs767: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plugin your ipod to see usefull errors
[18:51] <shrimants> oh ok
[18:51] <nacc> shrimants: sorry, i should have specified that earlier
[18:52] <shrimants> which options are necessary to include?
[18:53] <nacc> shrimants: that's what you need to figure out :) all the one you do now, and then add others (e.g., username, password, i guess) until you have it working
[18:53] <shrimants> and until i get it right it will just keep saying permission denied?
[18:54] <nacc> shrimants: I assume so? i also assume you are doing this with sudo, right?
[18:55] <Khaotic> TJ-,
[18:55] <Khaotic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VyRhNQr5Qq/
[18:55] <Khaotic> sorry thought i copied the link earlier
[18:55] <migs767> lotus|NUC, it doesnt even show up in file manager
[18:55] <shrimants> i am using sudo
[18:55] <nacc> migs767: that is about partitions etc. Does the device show up (syslog, dmesg)
[18:55] <nacc> shrimants: ok
[18:56] <migs767> can I send you the output
[18:56] <migs767> pastebin?
[18:56] <migs767> lotus|NUC, can i send you the output
[18:56] <migs767> lotus|NUC, its strange because it showed up once, but then i disconnected and now it is not
[18:57] <shrimants> theres no way for me to get any output more meaningful than "permission denied"? like was it a bad password or what
[18:57] <shrimants> i dont get it because the drive in windows has full read/write/execute permissions for "Everyone"
[18:57] <nacc> shrimants: from mount, i don't think so.
[18:58] <nacc> shrimants: but that isn't relevant to the network drive, i don't think
[18:58] <nacc> shrimants: i'm not sure, i haven't used windows in more than a decade :)
[18:58] <shrimants> heres something different
[18:58] <shrimants> i tried username=Guest and it said "key has been revoked"
[18:59] <migs767> lotus|NUC, https://pastebin.com/MTgrAsQT
[18:59] <migs767> So it dows recognize it it seems
[19:00] <adymitruk> any good guides on udev rules? I need to exclude a USB thermal printer so that the browser can use webusb
[19:00] <lotus|NUC> migs767: this doesnt look good: failed to add USB device: 05ac:129e is not supported: USB error on device 05ac:129e : Entity not found [-5]
[19:02] <adymitruk> currently the browser can't "claim device"
[19:02] <lotus|NUC> migs767: wich ubuntu version?
[19:02] <adymitruk> 18.04.x
[19:03] <ArminiusTux> nacc: thanks for taking the time - Disks shows my the disc put I can not mount it (unknown content)
[19:04] <migs767> lotus|NUC, i plugged into another usb port and it showed up in  file manager, but just like it does in windows only showing me the photos
[19:04] <ChiLLabiS> Got VPN connecting automaticly through nm-connection-editor! No OpenVPN needed
[19:05] <nacc> ArminiusTux: do you know how to use `mount` on the commandline?
[19:05] <shrimants> ok so on windows i just have to hit "map network drive" and put in \\server\share
[19:05] <shrimants> and it doesnt ask for username/pass, it just works
[19:05] <shrimants> im not understanding why ubuntu is forcing me to put login credentials
[19:05] <nacc> shrimants: so there's no authentication in place?
[19:05] <shrimants> nope
[19:06] <ArminiusTux> nacc: sort of, also tried gio mount
[19:06] <lotus|NUC> migs767: try this: https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/music-player-newipod.html.en
[19:06] <shrimants> in windows, under "advanced sharing" -> permissions, i've given group Everyone full control (read, write, execute)
[19:06] <shrimants> let me try android and see what happens
[19:07] <lotus|NUC> migs767: clementine is also known for having a good sync with apple devices
[19:07] <nacc> shrimants: you could try passing -v to mount
[19:07] <nacc> shrimants: i think you want sec=none ?
[19:08] <nacc> shrimants: the default if you don't specify sec is to use authentication
[19:08] <nacc> shrimants: e.g mount -v ..... -o sec=none,...
[19:10] <shrimants> permission denied, and android also cant connect properly
[19:10] <shrimants> so something on the windows side is effed up
[19:10] <nacc> shrimants: seems so
[19:13] <ioria> shrimants,  sudo mount -t cifs -o uid=1000,gid=1000  //server-ip/folder  /home/user/mount-point      ; if it asks the password just type Enter
[19:15] <shrimants> permission denied ioria
[19:15] <shrimants> babys crying brb
[19:15] <shrimants> oh jk
[19:16] <ioria> shrimants,  windows side, yes ... opne Advanced sharing settings
[19:16] <shrimants> ok
[19:17] <shrimants> only thing in there is "Everyone" with full control
[19:17] <ioria> shrimants,  Public folder sharing : Turn On sharing
[19:18] <ioria> shrimants,  Password protected sharing : Turn off
[19:18] <shrimants> that was set to "turn off public"
[19:18] <ioria> shrimants,  the first ?
[19:19] <shrimants> both
[19:19] <nacc> well, if you aren't sharing it, then that's your problem :)
[19:19] <shrimants> public folder sharing was off, password protected was on so it required a windows login
[19:19] <shrimants> no, it was shared
[19:19] <ioria> shrimants,  change Public folder sharing -> Turn on
[19:19] <shrimants> i think it was shared only if someone had a windows account
[19:19] <shrimants> and since mine is the only account im logged into on all computers, it of course gave me access
[19:20] <shrimants> thats the ticket, that mount -t line worked now
[19:20] <ioria> good
[19:20] <Khaotic> meh...i give up
[19:20] <ioria> on what ?
[19:22] <lotus|NUC> Khaotic: if you find a new !bug on new hardware please file it, help yourself, help the community
[19:22] <Khaotic> not sure it's a bug. TJ- would know better than myself
[19:23] <ioria> Khaotic, in few words, your issue ?
[19:23] <Khaotic> could you scroll up?
[19:23] <ioria> nope, sy
[19:23] <Khaotic> bt adapter isnt working
[19:23] <ioria> ha
[19:23] <Khaotic> not sure if it's "supposed to" or if it's a 4.17 feature
[19:24] <ioria> 4.17 ?
[19:24] <Khaotic> kernel
[19:24] <Khaotic> wifi adapter didnt start wotrking until 4.15
[19:24] <ioria> Khaotic, why are you using 4.17 ?
[19:24] <Khaotic> im not
[19:24] <Khaotic> im using 4.15...
[19:25] <ioria> Khaotic, what is ? builtin ? usb adapter ?
[19:25] <lotus|NUC> Khaotic: and you said it worked earlier right? recall kernel version then?
[19:25] <nacc> Khaotic: have you tried testing 18.10 yet? or just testing a current mainline build if it always works?
[19:25] <Khaotic> erm
[19:26] <Khaotic> lotus|NUC, no i dont. i figured it worked
[19:26] <Khaotic> ioria, huh?
[19:26] <Khaotic> nacc, no i havent yet
[19:26] <ioria> Khaotic, the bt ?  i mean ... is integrated or via usb dongle ?
[19:26] <Khaotic> it's not a huge deal. just would be cool to use my bluetooth headphones with my computer
[19:26] <Khaotic> integrated in mobo
[19:27] <ioria> Khaotic, what mobo ? (is it a desktop ?)
[19:27] <Khaotic> yes
[19:27] <Khaotic> asus rog z370e
[19:27] <ioria> ah
[19:27] <Khaotic> really wish there was a linux application to control the RGB headers too :/
[19:28] <ioria> Khaotic, and i guess it's not even detected in  lspci or lsusb ,right ?
[19:28] <Khaotic> nope
[19:28] <Khaotic> the one time it worked, it showed up
[19:28] <Khaotic> hasnt since then
[19:28] <Khaotic> actually it worked twice before
[19:28] <shrimants> alright so my next step is to figure out the right permissions to mount this share so various users can read/write to it
[19:29] <shrimants> for instance, a daemon running as that daemon's user
[19:29] <ioria> Khaotic, if so, it's probably a formware issue
[19:30] <Khaotic> ?
[19:30] <ioria> *firmware
[19:30] <Khaotic> meaning
[19:30] <Khaotic> hmm appears there was a bios update a few days ago
[19:31] <Khaotic> should i dl and install?
[19:31] <ioria> Khaotic, you can try   #8 from this : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2394125
[19:32] <Khaotic> ioria, i saw that
[19:32] <ioria> Khaotic, and ?
[19:32] <Khaotic> but wouldnt i need to do that every kernel upgrade?
[19:32] <ioria> Khaotic, nope
[19:33] <ioria> Khaotic, dkms
[19:33] <Khaotic> would it break something?
[19:33] <ioria> Khaotic, it should not ...
[19:34] <Khaotic> ok ill try
[19:34] <Khaotic> im unfamiliar with dkms
[19:34] <ioria> good luck
[19:35] <ioria> me too : p
[19:36] <Khaotic> lol
[19:36] <Khaotic> oh boy
[19:36] <Khaotic> the blind leading the blind
[19:36] <Khaotic> well...im gonna reboot
[19:36] <Khaotic> yolo
[19:40] <illuminaughtyy> anyone know how I would get server functionality from desktop 18.04 LTS?
[19:46] <shrimants> whats the uid/gid im supposed to use if i want everyone to have read/write access to a mount
[19:47] <shrimants> like obviously i can use 1000/1000 but then if theres a different user/service account that tries writing/reading to/from that directory wont it choke?
[19:47] <TJ-> Khaotic: back now, sorry - was at dinner
[19:50] <TJ-> Khaotic: I asked earlier about whether the device appears after cold boots. I've another variation of that question. Have you tried powering off completely - as in, to the extent of switching off at the wall-plug, and then pressing the PC power-on switch to drain its internal capacitors ?
[19:52] <nacc> illuminaughtyy: what do you mean? server and desktop are just different default packages
[19:52] <nacc> shrimants: uid/gid is not the right approach, unless you mean the effective uid on the windows system
[19:53] <shrimants> no i mean 2 different linux users
[19:53] <shrimants> i mean i could just use my personal account as the user the daemon runs as
[19:53] <shrimants> seems wrong
[19:53] <nacc> shrimants: what daemon?
[19:53] <shrimants> radarr and sonarr
[19:53] <nacc> shrimants: if you are asking a windows configuration question, i have no idea
[19:54] <nacc> shrimants: niether of those sound like ubuntu programs? are they?
[19:54] <shrimants> like if i have user1 and user2 on my linux vm, id like them both to be able to access the mounted windows drive as read/write
[19:54] <shrimants> both of those are linux programs
[19:55] <nacc> shrimants: that has to do with the permissions on the mounted filesystem locally, no?
[19:55] <shrimants> no, i dont believe so
[19:56] <nacc> shrimants: you mount the partition using some credentials once, not per user.
[19:56] <nacc> *the shared disk, not partition, sorry
[19:56] <shrimants> if i dont specify user/group, it mounts as root:root
[19:57] <shrimants> if i mount it as shrimants:users, i reckon user2 wouldnt have read/write access to the share
[19:57] <nacc> shrimants: they would if the group has r/w and user2 is in users ?
[19:58] <dimm> Hello, All! What start point for determine why dvd tray is opening without any button push?
[19:58] <shrimants> they would?
[20:03] <shrimants> ok well i got the thingy mounted
[20:03] <shrimants> so thats good
[20:04] <kinghat> what does this mean? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/ESssYJx3/image.png
[20:06] <shrimants> pass it the --classic flag
[20:07] <Jordan_U> dimm: First thing I'd do is run "dmesg --human" (press ctrl+d to scroll to the bottom, to see the most recent messages). Look at what messages you see around the time the tray opens.
[20:11] <Khaotic> TJ-, i have not tried that
[20:11] <pragmaticenigma> kinghat: You will have to reach out to the maintainer of that snap for support.
[20:12] <Khaotic> ioria that didnt work :(
[20:16] <nacc> kinghat: read the snapcraft documentation, it's quite clear
[20:16] <nacc> kinghat: snap support (general) in #snappy, or per the maintainer, as pragmaticenigma said, if it's about a specific app
[20:17] <TJ-> Khaotic: as we know the BT device once did show up, and now doesn't, I'm pretty sure it is ACPI related. Sometimes draining power helps. But I'd still recommend entering the firmware setup at power-on and checking for any options that could affect the bluetooth/USB device(s)
[20:19] <Khaotic> TJ-, i just did that (firmware setting). nothing. even updated the bios
[20:19] <catbeard> how do i change the right click menu font
[20:19] <catbeard> 18.04.1
[20:21] <Khaotic> does network monitor support OTP with vpn connections
[20:21] <nacc> catbeard: gnome tweak tool -> fonts?
[20:26] <TJ-> Khaotic: try the power-drain once again. However, what I'm finding confusing is that kernel 4.15 doesn't have the device ID in butusb.ko, so I'm struggling to figure out how the Bluetooth device was able to work. That happened with the same Ubuntu OS as is on the PC now?
[20:27] <Khaotic> TJ-, yes
[20:27] <TJ-> Khaotic: is it possible there's been a kernel upgrade, and that you had previsouly installed a DKMS module that worked and doesn't work for this kernel?
[20:27] <Khaotic> ill try the power drain later
[20:27] <Khaotic> gotta run an errand
[20:28] <Khaotic> TJ-, not that i know of
[20:28] <TJ-> Khaotic: can you show us "pastebinit <( uname -r; dkms status )"
[20:29] <Khaotic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GPjzqsqRY6/
[20:31] <TJ-> Khaotic: aha!
[20:31] <TJ-> Khaotic: you appear to have installed an external 'btusb' module "btusb, 4.0, 4.15.0-36-generic, x86_64: installed"
[20:31] <Khaotic> TJ-, scroll up
[20:31] <Khaotic> [14:31:36] <ioria> Khaotic, you can try   #8 from this : https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2394125
[20:31] <Khaotic> i tried that
[20:32] <Khaotic> https://github.com/jeremyb31/newbtfix-4.15
[20:32] <Khaotic> brb
[20:32] <TJ-> Khaotic: oh ... must have been at dinner. That won't help things later though if the device hardware re-apprs
[20:33] <Khaotic> how do i remove TJ- ?
[20:33] <TJ-> Khaotic: that's easy "sudo dkms remove btusb/4.0 --all"
[20:35] <TJ-> Khaotic: the main thing to realise is, until the device shows up again in the output of "lsusb" (device 0b05:185c) then no driver is going to work. So that is the thing you need to fix. Have you thought/tried checking the device is correctly seated/connected on the motherboard?
[20:38] <kinghat> i installed the the JDK from oracle and im asked to verify intellij install with `java -version` and `javac -version`: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/D7RswSVQ/image.png
[20:39] <kinghat> but i get this: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/D2EczMma/image.png
[20:39] <kinghat> not sure what i missed with 'javac'?
[20:42] <nacc> kinghat: 'JDK from oracle'? how did you install and what specifically?
[20:42] <nacc> kinghat: if i'm reading your output, you are using openjdk from the archive, not from oracle.
[20:43] <Khaotic> TJ-, it's built onto the motherboard
[20:43] <Khaotic> integrated
[20:43] <Khaotic> asus rog z370e
[20:43] <kinghat> nacc: the deb from here: https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk11-downloads-5066655.html
[20:43] <kinghat> jdk-11_linux-x64_bin.deb
[20:44] <nacc> kinghat: you see how that's clearly not what you are running?
[20:44] <nacc> kinghat: if you want help with oracle's jdk, ask oracle.
[20:44] <Khaotic> TJ-, now no btusb is showing
[20:46] <kinghat> nacc: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/T3WBoA53/image.png
[20:46] <TJ-> Khaotic: I've found confirmation you've a hardware error! Didn't spot this before, but it is in both kernel logs you provided. "usb 1-7: device descriptor read/64, error -71"
[20:46] <TJ-> Khaotic: around line 930 at http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/VyRhNQr5Qq/
[20:46] <nacc> kinghat: it's not what `java` reports. talk to oracle.
[20:47] <TJ-> Khaotic: so, in some way the device has failed
[20:48] <Khaotic> :O
[20:48] <Khaotic> nooooooooo
[20:48] <Khaotic> now what?
[20:48] <Xirig> Do I go here if I have a VLC problem? If not, do you know where I find that chat? I'm a newb to all of this, including Ubuntu itself.
[20:49]  * Khaotic buys a new mobo
[20:50] <Sterist> does Ubuntu keep track of failed login attempts?
[20:51] <TJ-> Khaotic: not sure; I can't find any other reports of the same symptoms so far
[20:51] <Sterist> I am interested in when and how many may have occurred.
[20:51] <TJ-> Sterist: /var/log/auth.log
[20:51] <Khaotic> :(
[20:51] <zule> does the ubuntu server installer not support iSCSI installs?
[20:52] <Xirig> What does this dotted orange line above Khaotic's name mean?
[20:52] <Sterist> thank you, and hello again TJ :) I am very impressed with your frequent presence on this channel
[20:53] <Khaotic> Xirig, that's your IRC client showing you where you last left off in this channel
[20:53] <TJ-> Sterist: I've not been around much for months; you're lucky :)
[20:54] <Xirig> AAAAAh ok. Thank you so much. I did say I'm a newb, haha.
[20:54] <TJ-> Khaotic: I've found a thread in the ROG forums that seems to suggest this failed BT device is not unique to you, and doesn't only affect that Mobo version, but there is no fix mentioned there. https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?90320-Asus-ROG-Strix-X99-Gaming-bluetooth-not-working
[20:54] <Khaotic> :(
[20:55] <Khaotic> well thanks for trying to help
[20:56] <TJ-> Khaotic: the only slight clue I've seen is people asking to confirm there are antennas connected to both sockets
[20:56] <Khaotic> there is
[20:57] <TJ-> Khaotic: which may infer the chipset disables itself in some circumstances if no antennas detected.
[20:57] <TJ-> Khaotic: silly idea but... try rebooting with the anntennas disconnected. See is "lsusb" shows the device... then if not, reconnect antennas and reboot and check again. Scraping the barrel for solutions now!
[20:58] <TJ-> Khaotic: to be clear "lsusb" would need to show "0b05:185c" device
[20:58] <Khaotic> how do you know the device?
[20:59] <Khaotic> 0b05:185?
[20:59] <TJ-> Khaotic: from various Internet forum posts where the "lsusb" was shown
[20:59] <Khaotic> 0b05:185c?
[20:59] <Khaotic> oh
[20:59] <Khaotic> so it's a unique identifier to the mobo?
[20:59] <Khaotic> brb rebooting w/o antenna
[20:59] <TJ-> Khaotic: every USB device has a unique ID vendor:product vendor 0b05 is Asus
[21:00] <TJ-> Khaotic: and that BT device is apparently 185c
[21:03] <Khaotic> TJ-, it detects, when disconnected
[21:04] <TJ-> Khaotic: wow, really!?
[21:04] <Khaotic> yup
[21:04] <TJ-> Khaotic: well! I have to laugh, excuse me a moment :D
[21:05] <Khaotic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZQjVJvsdTW/
[21:05] <Khaotic> i understand
[21:05] <TJ-> Khaotic: I thought I was being silly with that idea... so now, if you reboot with antennas reconnected how does it behave!?
[21:05] <TJ-> Khaotic: that is ... ghost in the machine ... territory!
[21:05] <Khaotic> brb
[21:08] <Khaotic> TJ-, it's still showing up now
[21:08] <Khaotic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PFyJ8cbnVf/
[21:09] <TJ-> Khaotic: result!
[21:09] <Khaotic> the adapter setting arent showing up in the systray (kde)
[21:10] <TJ-> Khaotic: so, does it show up as a controller and can you scan for devices, or do we still need to 'teach' btusb to bind to it ?
[21:10] <Khaotic> need to teach it i think
[21:10] <TJ-> Khaotic: does "ls /sys/bus/usb/drivers/btusb" show the driver loaded?
[21:10] <Khaotic> lsusbls: command not found
[21:11] <TJ-> Khaotic: this is soooo weird, although a nice find/result!
[21:11] <Khaotic> TJ-, 1-7:1.0  1-7:1.1  bind  module  new_id  remove_id  uevent  unbind
[21:11] <TJ-> Khaotic: wow, it's also bound the btusb driver to the device, you're doing well
[21:12] <Khaotic> how do you know
[21:12] <Khaotic> im lost
[21:12] <Xirig> OH as a newb, are there any chats I should join? Aside of course from this one. ^^;
[21:12] <TJ-> Khaotic: the "1-7:1.0! is the USB bus 'address' of a device
[21:12] <Khaotic> whats the 1.1?
[21:12] <TJ-> Khaotic: try this: "ls /sys/class/bluetooth/" - do you see any hci* nodes (Host Controller Interface)
[21:13] <Khaotic> yes
[21:13] <Khaotic> hci0
[21:13] <TJ-> Khaotic: USB devices (can) have multiple interfaces on them. Those numbers indicate the interface
[21:13] <TJ-> Khaotic: right, so, the device is there, AND the OS recognises it
[21:13] <TJ-> Khaotic: try this "bluetoothctl" - this starts a command-line bluetooth control application
[21:13] <Khaotic> :O
[21:14] <TJ-> Khaotic: if you type "help" it'll list all the commands available
[21:14] <Khaotic> agent registered
[21:14] <TJ-> Khaotic: now do "scan on" and then start a bluetooth device trying to pair with it
[21:14] <Khaotic> agent registeredwonder how i get the systray icon to show
[21:15] <TJ-> Khaotic: if the device is reported then we know BT communications is working and we can move on to sorting out the GUI app
[21:15] <Khaotic> ok
[21:15] <Khaotic> it's showing my previous connections
[21:16] <TJ-> if you do "devices" it'll list already-paired devices
[21:16] <Khaotic> yup
[21:16] <TJ-> if yoy do "connect XX:XX:XX..." it'll (try to) connect to that device. those BT MAC addresses will tab-complete so you don't need to type them entirely
[21:18] <Khaotic> Attempting to connect to 9C:2A:83:89:31:E0
[21:18] <Khaotic> Failed to connect: org.bluez.Error.Failed
[21:18] <Khaotic> sorry, forgot to pastebin
[21:18] <TJ-> Khaotic: that's OK it's only a couple lines :)
[21:19] <TJ-> Khaotic: OK, so, let's see if we can get the GUI working. Did you say it's Kubuntu?
[21:20] <Khaotic> yes
[21:21] <TJ-> I can't recall what the name of the Kubuntu BT manager is; I generally always install "blueman" - that might be it. Try in the System/Settings menu for the Bluetooth manager/Bluetooth Devices app
[21:21] <Khaotic> i did
[21:21] <Khaotic> it's gona
[21:21] <Khaotic> gone
[21:21] <Khaotic> i think it is blueman
[21:22] <TJ-> Khaotic: on the "bluetoothctl" terminal type "quit" to get back to the shell, then try "blueman"
[21:22] <Khaotic>  Blueman is a GTK+ bluetooth management utility for GNOME using bluez D-Bus
[21:22] <TJ-> that should start the main window and as a bonus report any issues to the terminal where you started it from
[21:23] <Khaotic> blueman is the gnome manager
[21:24] <Khaotic> bluedevil is the one i think
[21:25] <TJ-> that's the one!
[21:25] <TJ-> I just found it as a dependecy of kubuntu-desktop
[21:25] <Khaotic> im gonna try blueman
[21:26] <chickenfeed> sup misc bras
[21:26] <TJ-> I listed its files and the one that might work is "/usr/bin/bluedevil-wizard"
[21:26] <Khaotic> not wokring
[21:27] <TJ-> OK, try blueman
[21:27] <Khaotic> that didnt work either
[21:27] <TJ-> how is it not working - not starting? not installing?
[21:28] <Khaotic> gives me an error
[21:28] <Khaotic> bluedevil works
[21:28] <TJ-> Khaotic: right, but at what point? they start but error report when trying to scan/discover/connect ?
[21:28] <Khaotic> just wont let me connect to my computer
[21:29] <Khaotic> all im getting is connection failed
[21:29] <TJ-> Khaotic: this might be a firmware issue - show us "pastebinit <( systemctl status bluetooth; dmesg )"
[21:30] <Khaotic> i dont see how
[21:30] <Khaotic> i was able to pair and connect in the past
[21:30] <Khaotic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CfrKng3xKy/
[21:31] <TJ-> Khaotic: end of kernel log several "Bluetooth: hci0: last event is not cmd complete (0x0f)" so there is another issue to resolve
[21:32] <TJ-> Khaotic: Line 1023 onwwards shows the RTL firmware being loaded into the device
[21:32] <Khaotic> *sigh*
[21:32] <Khaotic> ok?
[21:33] <Khaotic> give it to me straight doc
[21:35] <TJ-> Khaotic: I just found and Ask Ubuntu question with a comment that says "Confirmed that this problem occurs on Ubuntu 18.04 for me and is solved by booting into a kernel prior to 4.15.0.33"
[21:35] <Khaotic> :/
[21:35] <TJ-> Khaotic: so, do you still have 4.15.0-32 installed? "apt list --installed linux-image*"
[21:35] <Khaotic> so i wasnt imagining things
[21:36] <Khaotic> negative
[21:36] <TJ-> Khaotic: apparently not :) Look on the bright side, we've discovered an issue and a workaround that non-one else has, so you're ahead of the game!
[21:37] <Khaotic> what workaround? "Did you try unplugging it and replugging it in?"
[21:37] <Khaotic> lol
[21:37] <TJ-> Khaotic: It worked, don't knock it :D
[21:37] <Khaotic> lol
[21:38] <TJ-> Khaotic: right, -32 is still available in the archives so you can install it and test whether that does work - if it does we can report a regression for the bionic kernels -33 onwards
[21:38] <Khaotic> how do i do that?
[21:38] <TJ-> Khaotic: "sudo apt install linux-{image,headers}-4.15.0-32-generic"
[21:38] <kinghat> i have 2 versions of java/jdk installed. one from the repo(default?) and one manually installed from oracle. versions 10 and 11 respectively. can i just remove 10 so that 11 is the only one and the links will switch to using that?
[21:39] <Khaotic> ~$ sudo apt install linux-image-4.15.0-32-generic?
[21:40] <TJ-> Khaotic: that'll install the kernel images, modules, and header files for that version. Once installed you'll need to reboot, tap Esc (repeatedly) to get to the GRUB boot menu, choose the "Advanced" sub-menu, then select the 4.15.0-32-generic entry (not the -recovery version)
[21:40] <TJ-> Khaotic: the command as I gave it
[21:40] <TJ-> Khaotic: "sudo apt install linux-{image,headers}-4.15.0-32-generic"
[21:40] <TJ-> Khaotic: the shell will expand that {images,headers} to create the correct package names
[21:40] <Khaotic> right
[21:41] <Khaotic> and just tap ESC on reboot?
[21:41] <TJ-> Khaotic: if you want to see how, do:  "echo linux-{image,headers}-4.15.0-32-generic"
[21:41] <TJ-> Khaotic: yes, as soon as the firmware POST ends tap Esc repeatedly - that tells GRUB you want to see and stop at the boot menu
[21:42] <Khaotic> ok
[21:43] <Khaotic> brb
[21:49] <Khaotic> not sure how, but that kernel lost key board support
[21:49] <Khaotic> i wasnt able to use my keyboard
[21:51] <TJ-> Khaotic: :O you've definitely got ghosts in the machine
[21:51] <TJ-> Khaotic: so you've had to return to the default kernel?
[21:51] <Khaotic> yup
[21:52] <Khaotic> i tried booting to 32 twice and both times usb keyboard wouldnt work
[21:52] <Khaotic> oh wait
[21:52] <Khaotic> TJ-, i think it's working
[21:53] <Khaotic> yup, it's working
[21:53] <TJ-> Khaotic: Bluetooth?
[21:53] <Khaotic> but im on kernel .36
[21:53] <Khaotic> yup
[21:53] <TJ-> Khaotic: wow!
[21:53] <TJ-> Khaotic: so this seems like every issue you've had is random, and fixed by random events
[21:53] <Khaotic> yes...
[21:53] <Khaotic> and ive been trying to figure out how to recreate it
[21:54] <Khaotic> Linux h4ck3r-home 4.15.0-36-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 24 16:19:09 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:54] <TJ-> Khaotic: You're not full of static electricity are you? is the system sufficiently grounded?
[21:54] <Khaotic> and bluetooth working
[21:54] <Khaotic> i believe so
[21:54] <Khaotic> i bet if i reboot, it wont work
[21:54] <TJ-> Khaotic: well, you could look at the /var/log/kern.log to determine why -32 didn't bring up the USB keyboard.
[21:59] <Khaotic> TJ-, not finding anything
[21:59] <Khaotic> well thanks for the help anyway
[21:59] <TJ-> Khaotic: you're welcome; it has been an 'interesting' experience
[21:59] <Khaotic> i guess ill just deal with the randomness and keep a spare pair of speakers/headsets around
[22:00] <Khaotic> im just happy to know i was able to prove i wasnt making it up
[22:00] <TJ-> Khaotic: report back if it still is randomly dropping the device. There's obvisouly something on the mobo that is affected by antenna connections and so forth
[22:00] <Khaotic> hmm will do
[22:00] <Khaotic> thanks again
[22:01] <TJ-> At least now you know what to look out for :)
[22:01] <Khaotic> great customer service
[22:01] <Khaotic> i wonder if something in the -32 packages needed to be installed
[22:01] <Khaotic> and ubuntu just didnt link the dependency
[22:03] <Khaotic> im gonna take a break and relax for a bit
[22:03] <Khaotic> i wasted more time than i planned on this :/
[22:03] <Khaotic> but definiteiyl learned some stuff
[22:05] <blackhaze> somebody knows how to configure grub on kubuntu, I need to get an image on the back what is the .conf to get it right?
[22:05] <TJ-> Khaotic: no to the -32 adding something - each kernel version files are kept separate, in fact modules from 1 won't work with another version
[22:44] <blackhaze> have someone installed rails on kubuntu or ubuntu distro?
[23:04] <julius> hi
[23:08] <julius> i changed my lock screen background via the background menu point, but i still see that violet background picture instead of the one i choose
[23:08] <julius> do i need to reboot?
[23:11] <kinghat> is it odd that installing `openjdk-11-jdk` prints that 10.0.2 is installed for java/javac http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e4f92a84/ but the SDK in intellij IDEA shows: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/3lsVts5P/image.png
[23:11] <kinghat> shows 11*
[23:14] <Irritiable|LT> julius: I do not believe so.
[23:22] <TJ-> kinghat: if you've multiple versions installed, the default via update-alternatives is probably set to JRE/JDK 10 still
[23:24] <kinghat> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f461ae4a/
[23:24] <kinghat> all thats in the jvm dir: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CMC3siIL/image.png
[23:27] <genii> TJ-: !info openjdk-11-jdk cosmic ... indicates that 10.0.2 is reporting correctly
[23:28] <TJ-> genii: kinghat: yes, "openjdk-11-jre/bionic-updates,bionic-security 10.0.2+13-1ubuntu0.18.04.2 amd64"
[23:29] <genii> TJ-: I'm on Xenial so queried with cosmic, but yeah, I'd say that's correct
[23:30] <kinghat> so its says 11 but its actually 10?
[23:30] <TJ-> openjdk-lts (10~46-4ubuntu1) bionic; urgency=medium
[23:30] <TJ->   * Upload openjdk-10 as openjdk-lts, but call the binary packages
[23:30] <TJ->     already 11.
[23:30] <TJ->  -- Matthias Klose <doko@ubuntu.com>  Tue, 03 Apr 2018 22:32:01 +0200y
[23:30] <TJ-> ^^ thats from the changelog
[23:31]  * genii slides TJ- a fresh cookie for promptness
[23:31] <genii> ..I was on my way to look there also .. ;)
[23:31] <TJ-> kinghat: I'd suspect because its the LTS package, the intention is/was to move to the real openjdk-11 as soon as it is released
[23:32] <TJ-> kinghat: and by naming the binary packages will -11 that means a regular "apt upgrade" will pull them in; otherwise it'd need "apt full-upgrade" / "apt-get dist-upgrade" due to the major version bump
[23:34] <TJ-> s/will/with/
[23:34] <TJ-> oh foey, silly regexp! I didn't say apply it globally!
[23:35] <kinghat> still a bit foggy but it has to do with the way upgrades are and they wanted to get to the 11 LTS so they are play tricks with the package to get 11 out?
[23:41] <kinghat> thanks for the help genii/TJ-
[23:51] <TJ-> kinghat: for other packages you sometimes see a version string like 5.6-really5.4... :)