[00:21] I'd like to monitor my home Internet connection to produce nice graphics showing permanent disconnections and show my ISP they are a**holes [00:21] Do you know any nice tool that could do the job in 1 breath? [00:23] I am not sure what is up with the current 18.04 installer but it keeps failing to install on a fresh drive with an encrypted volume. Is this a known issue? [00:23] It produces the error: Configuration of encrypted volumes failed. An error occured while configuring encrypted volumes. [00:26] Ah apparently the installer is confused when there are existing luks devices and lvm volumes on the disk [00:35] courrier: wireshark can monitor packets if you like [00:35] !lvm | sha255 start here mate [00:35] sha255 start here mate: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [00:39] lotuspsychje: and output graphics? Yeah, but I'd to avoid doing measurements by hand, some simple UI outputing plots of ping time would be perfect [00:39] I could even be a web app actually [00:39] client side [00:42] courrier: http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/best-network-monitoring-tools-for-linux pick one here [00:49] Hey fellas. I am looking to install ubuntu on sda and sdb, I have windows on sbc. I know I am going to oerwrite the windows bootloader with grub but not sure how to do it via the installer... Any suggestions / help? [00:54] Wow, everybody must be asleep, this channel is usually hoppin [00:58] Hell-Razor: #ubuntu is 24/7 and has different timezones waking up, a little patience is needed at some times [00:59] Yeah thats fine, more like killing time. [00:59] !dualboot | Hell-Razor start here mate [00:59] Hell-Razor start here mate: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot [01:02] lotuspsychje: This really doesnt help. I have sda partitioned like I want it but where do I put the bootloader? [01:04] Hell-Razor, are you using BIOS/MBR or UEFI/GPT ? [01:05] uefi [01:05] did you make an EFI partition? [01:05] or its sharing with Windows [01:06] I havent made anything yet, only thing is Windows is on one drive, I am putting ubuntu on another [01:06] I am trying t* [01:06] to [01:07] This manual mode is kind of like being stuck halfway between a gui and cli.. Not sure exactly whatits going to ask for at which step. [01:08] And it looks like theres virtual partitions? [01:08] Has anyone tried hyperrogue? it segfaults when I hit an enemy with a knife in shoot 'em up mode [01:09] I'm no expert, but you need an efi partition to use (either shared with windows, or giving ubuntu its own)... the boot loader then aims at the drive the efi is on. It gets more complicated also if the ubuntu drive is external. [01:11] Hell-Razor, I just finished installing 18.04 on an external HD (with Windows on an internal drive)... and with Ubuntu having its own efi partition. [01:12] This entire setup screen is just throwing me for loops sonicwind. I am in no rush to get this done I am just getting a headache at the over complexity to do a simple thing. Should be able to point the installer do a different disk when selecting "erase disk and install ubuntu" and then have a screen that pops up saying "we found a windows patition" [01:12] sonicwind My disks are all internal [01:12] if you use the Windows efi partition, and Windows crashes, your Ubuntu drive won't work either. [01:13] don't forget to disable secureboot [01:13] I spent a week or two reading stuff before I did my install. So many things involved. [01:13] Never been a fan of secureboot catbeard [01:14] yeah, I disabled secure boot also. [01:14] it's nice if you can get it to work with any os [01:14] but there can only be 1 [01:14] also make sure to turn off fast boot in windows [01:14] Yeah.. Ubunto wants to point to sdc, fighting it to get it do sda [01:14] if you use hibernation [01:14] I guess I can just nuke windows and reinstall but thats a pain [01:14] stage3 install gentoo! [01:15] catalase Thats what I am actually debating lol. Ive screwed my gentoo installs up though more timesthan I can count lol [01:15] I also assumed you were using the "something else" option. [01:15] sonicwind Even then its fighting me, or so it looks like it is [01:15] ruby rod: i don't want ONE partition i want ALL partitions! [01:17] sonicwind So how did you partition your disks using the "somethig else"? [01:19] sda was the internal w10 drive with all its partitions, sdb was Ubuntu... sdb1 being the EFI partition, sdb2 the system partition, sdb3 a data partition. I aimed boot loader question at sdb (no partition specified). [01:20] because I was using Ubuntu on an external drive, it required modificaitons to the grub file and its location. [01:21] Yeah shug.. Gentoo may be right around the corner lol [01:22] I think you're going to want a efi partition on your ubuntu drive also. Then just aim the bootloader question at the efi drive. It finds the right partition then. [01:22] it has to be fat32, I made mine 512mb, and /boot/efi is the mount point if I remember right. [01:23] You should be able to find some articles online that will explain it better than trying to figure it out in IRC imho. [01:23] kk [01:24] I read through a couple guides online, nothing really helped but thats alright [01:24] Ill figure it out eventually [01:25] Since you're installing in UEFI, the live media also has to be run from UEFI. [01:25] I've got a weird problem. 18.04.1 server is seeing an ntfs drive as vfat (ntfs confirmed on windows and debian) [01:26] Well joooy. I told it sda and it still went to sdc lol. Guess I am reinstlling doze and following the grub recovery guide after [01:28] what is sdc on your system? [01:29] I disconnected my Windows drive while I installed Ubuntu to make sure it found the right drive and no accidents. [01:30] and I did all my partitioning with Gparted rather than the installer. === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [01:35] plus2equalsme: try #ubuntu-server mate [01:36] thanks lotuspsychje === mouses_ is now known as mouses [03:34] When I click Telegram links in Chrome on Xubuntu 18.04.1 an xdg-open prompt appears. Telegram doesn't launch. Can anyone assist? [03:42] Hi, I'm trying to install 18.04 on an external hd. The installer presents me with software options regarding installing third-party software that I don't understand. Specifically it gives me the option of installing third party software (graphics and WiFi and codecs). It also gives me the option to "Configure Secure Boot", and a note says "Installing third-party drivers requries configuring Secure Boot" [03:43] I'm able to select "Install third-party software" without selecting "Configure secure boot"... but why can I avoid selecting the latter if its required? [03:43] Its not clear at all what "Configure Secure Boot" does [03:58] Hello, the Wine IRC sent me here. I am trying to locate where directories for Wine might be. I install audio software plugins and some of them need to eb dropped in directories, where how would i locate them? I have Ubuntu 18.04, 64 bits [04:00] I mean, certain plugins need to be dropped in folders, like VST and such === capella|away is now known as capellasDead [04:09] hi i'm trying to use tile-extruder but in ubuntu 18 i keep getting /usr/bin/env: ‘node\r’: No such file or directory when i try to use it :o === capellasDead is now known as capellaRots [04:23] I am facing many network problem after unistalling Gnome and installing i3 window manager. [04:28] Q2: help My uguntu went 90 degress rotation. i didnt know it was possible 18.04 and the trackpad is crazy. JUST TELL ME HOW TO GET NORMAL [04:30] AND omg when I turn it the laptop has a gravity sensor and THE CREEN ROTATES UPSIDE DOWN. What did I do? I was tyoing into the search box in html gmail. [04:37] help please. the trackpad works at 90deg but not consistent with the image either [04:39] tripelb, I had that problem on one of my laptops. turn your laptop until the screen is rotated correctly. and click the gnome menu in the top right, and click the "rotation-lock" icon to freeze it's rotation. [04:40] then when you sit your laptop back right-side up, it will stay. ;) [04:41] just a temp fix until the bug gets fixed [04:44] How can I convert an ubuntu BIOS installation to UEFI bootable one. [04:48] whats good for dnla on ubuntu? [04:49] rnat, you have to boot the live usb as UEFI and install it while running in UEFI. But you can't convert an existing installation to UEFI. [04:49] granttrec: minidlna has been successful for me. [04:51] arm0red: I was tempted to ask this question as I already have a BIOS/GPT installation with protective MBR. Thought that reinstalling grub-efi would fix my problem. Any thoughts on this approach? [04:51] SwedeMike: thanks [04:53] I rebooted. Problem: keystrokes made orientation change and auto-rotation 18.04 [04:53] What did I do? [04:55] This is HOW WELL the ubuntu documentation speaks about it: You can rotate what you see on your screen by pressing the buttons with the arrows. [04:55] sounds like Trump. [04:56] rnat, I don't know a lot about EFI. But just from what I've researched about it to help with my own installations, I found that you have to boot the live-usb in EFI mode in order to install as EFI. And that you can't convert a legacy install to EFI w/o reinstalling. [04:57] tripelb, did you get it fixed? [04:58] hi [04:58] How do I get the `dpkg --get-selections` equivalent for a package I'm installing through `apt install`? [04:58] you can lock the auto-rotation in the gnome menu in the top right. [04:59] tripelb, you can lock the auto-rotation in the gnome menu in the top right. [04:59] Found it: https://serverfault.com/q/407317 [05:05] arm0red, hi. "the gnome menu in the top right ou say.Ah, I got there through ubuntu documentation. BUT there is no rotation listing there. {resolution, refresh, adjust for tv nightlight} ((I think I may have hit alt backarrow by mistake. I use that as backarrow in a browser.)) === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman [05:08] arm0red, I see from webpages that this has been a problem in past versions 16,17 and is "fully fixed" now. This is a HP laptop I will search more on that. [05:14] arm0red, ah, I was using system settings, to the right is a quarter-turn box and that is the icon. when I click it a dot (that on closer inspection is a lock) appears in the center. I assume that does it. --- Now I want to learn to control it if on what keystrokes cause rotation AND what keystrokes will bring it back. Thanks ... this is for ANYONE actually. [05:15] tripelb, I was refering to the drop-down menu in the top right of the home screen. there are 4 icons "settings", "rotation lock", "screen lock", and "power" [05:17] tripelb, I'm glad you found it! I'd like to know how to control it from key strokes as well, lol [05:39] arm0red, also found that one can do this query in terminal: gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.touchscreen orientation-lock [05:40] It's late enough so I am quitting for the night arm0red Thank you for help and interaction. [05:45] hi! what is the terminal command to have a text-gui for managing wifi and networks? [06:09] what's the deal if I switched from Ubuntu to Kubuntu but my Firepro w8100 stopped working? I see it in lspci. But it's not listed in the xorg.0.log. [06:09] Are teh kernel's that diffrent from Ubuntu to Kubuntu? [06:12] Edisto: if the same version, the 'plumbing' should be the same if comparing Kubuntu & Ubuntu. The flavors can 'tweak' some bits that can have minor impact on a few devices (but rare in my knowledge), what version? [06:13] are you comparing one release of Ubuntu, with a different release of kubuntu? (by chance) Edisto [06:36] what's the closest thing in terms of apple notes' functionality with images drag and drop attachments basic formatting etc without being overly complicated? zim is... not my favorite. the snap notes app is too simple/doesn't include the attachment features and stuff like that === capellaRots is now known as capella|away [07:18] help is it really true that a png isnt recognied as a picture in my pictures folder? HOW DUMB. How can I change it into a jpg? [07:20] tripelb:imagemagick program [07:22] guiver_d: using kubuntu 18.04 and was using ubuntu 18.04. Same kernel versions too 4.15.0-33 and 34. I've reinstalled kubuntu about 3 times thinking it was just rocm [07:23] guiver_d: finally i was able to install amdgpu-pro and I noticed I still had the same problem where my Firepro w8100 was missing [07:33] I dont get a choice for a background to zoom tile fill screen etc. what happened? === tripelb is now known as tripelbsleeps [07:34] probably just gnome removing configuration options to make it easier to use for new users [07:57] sad i realy liked kubuntu [08:56] Hey, What's the best way to upgrade 16.04 to 18.04? `do-release-upgrade`? using the gui? something else? [08:57] elichai2: both of those methods are supported. Use whichever you prefer. [09:05] elichai2: update-manager -c [09:20] are "do-release-upgrade" 's only for between LTS'es? [09:22] coconut: nope, you can go to, between and from non-LTS releases [09:22] s/go/do-release-upgrade/ [09:24] ah, ok [09:24] thnx [09:27] blackflow: so... that's always to the latest LTS release? [09:28] coconut: what? [09:30] coconut: i think you confusing LTS upgrade with release upgrades [09:32] coconut: what is it you want to know exactly? [09:34] lotus|NUC: i guess i wanted to know the command difference between the two. [09:37] !upgrade | coconut [09:37] coconut: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [09:38] I have a vm running ubuntu however I don't have the .iso file anymore. My connection is really slow so I'm wondering if it's possible to format/reinstall ubuntu thru the Terminal ? [09:41] :) [09:46] weijunli: 64mb is the size of the 18.04 mini iso; you could install packages (if you still have the .debs) using your own source as a repo (after install of a minimal system), but I don't know what you mean by format/reinstall (at the format, you've lost what was there..) - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [10:24] any recommendations for a password manager that synchronizes across devices? [10:57] ppf: KeePassX [10:57] ppf: lastpass worked ok when i last tried it, but i switched to keepassx since it works everywhere i need it to. probably better to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic, though [10:59] keepassxc the fork tho', keepassx is no longer maintained === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [11:01] how does it do synchronization? [11:01] i tried it a bit back and i didn't figure that out [11:01] there's a bitwarden snap too [11:03] hi [11:03] ppf: you need to sort that out yourself [11:03] ducasse: as in, synchronize the database file? [11:03] mamonetti: welcome, what can we do for you? [11:03] ppf: yes [11:04] oof [11:04] ducasse: that's probably not gonna cut it then [11:06] ppf: you can use somethimg like google drive and manually copy the keyfile to your devices [11:06] that's not gonna work [11:07] it's a recipe for merge conflicts [11:07] and for a password manager that's dead on arrival [11:10] ppf: lotus|NUC 's bitwarden does has a sync feature over platforms, though i haven't used it. [11:17] hello === ylli_ is now known as ylel9 [11:18] ylel9: : welcome, what can we do for you? [11:18] lotus|NUC: you are bot or people [11:19] ylel9: i am peoples [11:20] lotus|NUC: vr [11:20] very good [11:20] lotus|NUC: i like ubuntu [11:21] ylel9: that fine, you can discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss [11:26] Hey there. I'm having som trouble figuring out how to get a package that's currently on universe-proposed [11:26] I've added a line for: artful-proposed main restricted multiverse universe (with the deb and url in front) but it doesn't show up on apt-cache policy [11:26] I have updated [11:27] Duckle: artful is end of life mate [11:27] oh [11:27] coconut: interesting! how does it synchronize? [11:27] Duckle: we advice to install a supported version from the topic [11:27] ppf: i don't know, i guess from inside the app. [11:28] lotus|NUC: Good poit, I actually thought I had upgrated [11:28] woops [11:28] i use keepassxc just like blackflow. [11:28] ppf: but it looks like an online only app to me, which sucks. [11:29] yeah [11:29] looks like [11:29] cloud synch is an immediate nope [11:29] yes, should not be online to me eather. Just... no. [11:30] i don't mind online if i can control the infrastructure [11:34] which application is that coconut / ppf ? [11:34] bitwarden [11:34] ah okay [11:34] nice app [11:34] that would make it better already, but still, online? [11:35] coconut: they have to synch somehow [11:35] i'd prefer something peer to peer [11:35] i.e. whenver devices see each other on the same network [11:35] but that has different privacy issues [11:37] I use syncthing to sync between machines, and store encrypted files in that folder. [11:37] which does the LAN syncing and keeping everything secure === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [11:38] popeycore: as i said above, some opaque synchronization of the password database is dangerous [11:38] a merge conflict immediatly kills you [11:39] Howdy folks [11:43] hello BluesKaj [11:44] Hi CookieM === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [12:06] afternoon cfhowlett [12:06] greetings lotus|NUC === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL [12:41] Hmm for some reason a package I'm interested in only shows up as version 1.2.9 in apt-cache search, even though I have bionic-proposed added to my sources [12:42] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/slic3r < this is the package in question [12:57] Duckle: i told you artful was eol right [12:57] lotus|NUC: I upgraded [12:57] I'm on 18.04 [12:57] bionic [12:58] Duckle: ok, is there any reason you really need proposed? [12:58] The particular software is fairly outdated in 1.2.9 [12:58] 1.3 has been the recommended version for a year I think [12:58] !latest | Duckle [12:58] Duckle: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. [12:58] hmm, [12:58] Duckle: you could see !backports or snaps perhaps [12:59] Yeah I just went with the recommendation from the developers website, where they recommend 1.3. I ended up just getting the appimage, but I'd prefer it to be updated through apt [12:59] Duckle: but proposed isnt really recommended unless you know what your doing [12:59] Duckle: which package? [12:59] http://slic3r.org/download < 1.3 is recommended [13:00] lotus|NUC: slic3r, it's the stuff that takes 3D models and slices it into layers and then into gcode for 3D printers [13:00] Duckle: can blender not help on that? [13:00] Nope [13:00] k [13:00] lotus|NUC: It's what produces the motion code for the printer [13:01] it's fairly specific software, I prefer slic3r, others prefer cura, some prefer a 150$ paid closed-source software called Simplify 3D, but yea. [13:01] It's quite specific kind of software. It has to do 3D motion paths from a mesh file [13:02] and have all the relevant 3D printer knobs available. Appimage is working for now though, so I guess I'll just have to wait for the devs to make 1.3 stable :) [13:02] Duckle: It looks like only 1.2.9 is going to work with bionic. 1.3 will be available in the next release of ubuntu. [13:02] oh dang. Ok === Class7_ is now known as Class7 === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotus|NUC [13:24] Hi guys I would like to contribute to the Ubuntu community testing some code, how can I do?? [13:25] !contribute | filib [13:25] filib: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu [13:25] filib: and welcome to the ubuntu community [13:29] filib: some wiki links on testing are https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/QATracker [13:32] Hi guys I would like to contribute to the Ubuntu community testing some code, how can I do?? [13:34] !contribute | filib, READ THIS please. [13:34] filib, READ THIS please.: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu [13:42] hey guys === kundanco_ is now known as anonymousK [13:43] I got stuck with a really weird problem on my ubuntu [13:44] sound works only for chrome, and not for any other software, not even the sound testing one [13:46] I tried a lot of things, but none of them worked obviously, and I am out of ideas === anonymousK is now known as kundanco_ === kundanco_ is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundanco_ [13:57] Papercuts Ninjas is a good place to start contributing as a tester? [14:01] @nagygm there could be so many reasons… pulse failure, pulse bad config, alsa bad config etc… [14:02] /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4 when searching for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4 [14:02] << can someone explain me what's happening? For me, both filenames look identically. [14:03] The linker then says: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4" [14:07] Hi! I need help. [14:07] My entire log is: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ND7YHxd6mN/ [14:07] I am attempting to install Ubuntu on an SSD WDS240G2G0B [14:07] I want to set it up with full disk encryption. [14:07] Is this a good idea? [14:14] Eimer: are you not building a 32bit library? [14:14] salamanderrake, well I am following a HowTo and it said to run "sudo make lib32" to build it in 32bit. [14:15] yeah well that library is incompatable because its a 64 bit library when you are trying to compile a 32bit lib [14:15] ile /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4 [14:15] /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libusb-0.1.so.4.4.4: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=a8ba2a1bca5de86606889ab3122a3038e8d2a272, stripped [14:16] so its the build process thats messed up. [14:16] morelikely in the configure stage [14:17] So you think the mistake is in the libusb I have cloned? [14:18] Eimer: where is the repo located? [14:18] I am actually just following this HowTo, salamanderrake: https://github.com/casper-astro/mlib_devel/wiki/How-to-install-Xilinx-ISE [14:18] Below step 20 "Download the driver source and install" [14:19] are you on a 32bit system? [14:19] I am pretty sure this is a 64 bit system [14:19] Yeah, 64 bit [14:21] What version of ubuntu are you on? [14:21] 18.04 [14:22] what should we do to increase our karma points? [14:22] Did you read the Tweaks for Ubuntu 16.04 section though? [14:23] Yeah I did but there was nothing very helpful for me problem :S [14:23] When I drop the lib32 flag in "sudo make lib32" I get this response: Built library is 64 bit. Run `make lib32' to build a 32 bit version [14:26] Can anyone here tell me how to set up full disk encryption with SSD? [14:26] I am attempting to install 18.04 [14:28] apt search libusb [14:28] lol [14:29] trupheenix: FDE is an option in the installer I seem to recall - are you trying to do it manually? [14:29] Yeah I have it installed [14:29] Eimer: sudo apt-get install libusb-dev:i386 [14:30] wuuh [14:30] That seems to work [14:30] Eimer: some of those instructions appear quite niave; recommending 'sudo' for a git clone and a make, for example (which runs all the tools as UID 0 (root) [14:31] Wow, I didn't even see that one. [14:31] salamanderrake, thank you. It is finishing with make[1]: Leaving directory '/opt/Xilinx/usb-driver' now. And I guess this is how it should be [14:32] Eimer: If I followed those instructions I think I'd do it inside an unprivileged LXD container for safely [14:32] TJ- This is a SSD. The FDE option is creating a swap space which I don't want. [14:32] Yeah, that repo/instructions seem outdated and they even misspell some stuff. [14:32] TJ-, well it is just an How-to. I think they are not meant to be perfect. [14:33] trupheenix: the swap is likely to support hibernation; however, SSD doesn't preclude swap - swap is about helping the kernel when there is pressure on RAM (because by default the kernel is configured to handle over-commit of RAM) [14:34] TJ- was reading that swap degrades SSD over a period of time. [14:34] Eimer: right - my point is, when you use 'sudo' you don't know what those tools could be doing to your system as 'root' [14:34] TJ - https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-add-swap-space-on-ubuntu-16-04 [14:34] Yeah I get your point. I guess in this case I just trusted the integrity of their software. [14:35] TJ- Plus I got 16 GB of RAM [14:35] TJ- so swap will not be required [14:35] trupheenix: only if the system is hitting it constantly, which implies the system needs more RAM! but these days as I understand it most SSDs are tolerent of such things in their wear-leveling alogorithms [14:35] TJ- Is it? Hmmm [14:35] trupheenix, modern ssds can withstand petabytes of writes more likely your SSD more likely will outlive the rest of your hardware by a wide margin [14:36] -1 more likely [14:36] trupheenix: well, if you choose FDE that implies the system will use LVM too, yes? So after install disable the swap and re-allocate the swap partition as an LVM physical volume and add it to the volume group - then you get to allocate the space to logical volumes [14:37] TJ- how to do this? [14:38] trupheenix: just go through the install and reboot into it. Then "sudo swapoff " and "sudo pvcreate " and "sudo vgextend

". At that point the former 'swap' space is available to allocate for LVs inside [14:39] TJ- I didn't get what is about [14:42] trupheenix: When using Logical Volume Management (LVM) the way it works is raw block devices are made Physical Volumes (PVs). One of more PVs are allocated to a Volume Group (VG). Now the VG has free extents (space) which can be allocated to Logical Volumes (LVs) which is where the file-systems are written to. So would be the name the installer gave to the VG - I think it is something like ubuntu-vg [14:42] but I can't be sure [14:43] !lvm [14:43] Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [14:50] hello. have a realtek 8821AU on a USB hub. lsusb can see. lshw can see but does not use it as wifi device. please advise [14:52] LargePrime: I seem to recall needing to build the driver for that from a github repo [14:52] neat [14:52] LargePrime: you're sure it is 8821 not 8812 ? [14:53] TJ-, because USB hub, or .. [14:53] checking [14:53] LargePrime: I have a bunch of source for both 8812 an 8821 here; I'd need to go through it to figure out which are current/relevant [14:53] nope. it is Device 008: ID 0bda:8812 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8812AU [14:54] sorry for the confusion [14:55] would i still need to build TJ-? [14:55] LargePrime: give me a moment - we have an rtl8812au-dkms package in Ubuntu - let me check your device ID against its modalias list [14:57] ok. kinda a noob, so if that means I am to do a thing, please be more bossy [14:57] LargePrime: yes, it matches. [14:57] !info rtl8812au-dkms | LargePrime [14:57] LargePrime: rtl8812au-dkms (source: rtl8812au): dkms source for the r8812au network driver. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.8.12175.20140902+dfsg-0ubuntu8 (bionic), package size 1089 kB, installed size 8697 kB [14:57] LargePrime: you can just do "sudo apt install rtl8812ay-dkms" [14:58] Grrr [14:58] LargePrime: you can just do "sudo apt install rtl8812au-dkms" [15:00] so, i needed to install a driver for this adapter...? [15:00] how would i know i needed to do that TJ- ? [15:01] it is doing a bynamic build? [15:01] will it need to do this for every kernel upgrade [15:02] and will do so automagically? === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [15:03] after install, what do i restart to get the hardware to see it? [15:03] LargePrime: it's all automatic from now on, each new kernel will cause the driver to be built for it [15:03] that is kinda amazing [15:03] LargePrime: you should just need to re-insert the device and it'll be found, driver loaded, etc [15:04] LargePrime: the reason the driver isn't in the kernel is Realtek do not play nice with the mainline kernel [15:04] LargePrime: they just dump their code and leave it to users/devs to package/install === Helenah is now known as MikeyTheEngineer === MikeyTheEngineer is now known as MikeyTheGreasyEn === mouses is now known as mouseleums [15:15] hello [15:17] I can't force my builtin camera to work. Laptop is Latitude E6540, the OS is Ubuntu 18.04.1. [15:18] It is enabled in BIOS, but not listed by either lshw, lscpi and lsusb. [15:18] What else I could try? === MikeyTheGreasyEn is now known as TomTheTrooper === TomTheTrooper is now known as Helenah [15:21] TheWild: can you show us some info and the kernel log? "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk; lsusb; dmesg )" [15:22] http://termbin.com/0sat [15:23] TheWild: it's totally possible your camera may not be supported [15:23] tatertots: but not conceivable the kernel doesn't see it on a bus [15:23] maybe no drivers. But not listed? [15:25] Papercuts Ninjas is a good place to start contributing as a tester? [15:26] meh, I can't figure out the model. [15:27] does the camera show up in any other Linux distro, how feasible is it that you'd physically be able to disassemble the laptop to physically reseat or check it's physical connection to the system (i.e ribbon cables) [15:28] TheWild: looks like a hardware fault; your "lsusb" output shows an unknown device with vendor ID "0000" - which is illegal. "Bus 003 Device 004: ID 0000:0538" [15:29] TheWild: does the PC dual-boot with Windows - if so, does the camera show up there? If no dual-boot, I'm guessing either hardware issue or possible firmware ACPI bug (if ACPI there is a workaround that may help you) [15:31] dunno. I installed Windows on the other partition but it was barely used, never connected to internet and no drivers installed on. [15:31] wait a moment, I have drivers for Windows, maybe it will tell me what model it is. [15:31] hardware fault? [15:31] TheWild: Oh - I bet that's a smartphone you've got connected - is that correct? [15:32] TJ-: mmmm... nope. Not today! [15:32] TheWild: strange - that's usually what causes the 0000 vendor ID [15:33] TheWild: hmmm, that may be a misleading indicator then. Do you happen to have a USB optical mouse connected? [15:33] I connected my smartphone yesterday and it had some problems "agreeing" with my computer. It kept connecting and disconnecting, but eventually had stabilized. [15:33] TJ-: Optical mouse, yup! [15:34] TheWild: ahhh; that'll likely be the device I was considering faulty. OK, forgot that and lets move on :) [15:34] heh, mouse works flawlessly though. [15:36] TheWild: that's fine; my mistake! [15:37] TheWild: So there is no indication of the device in the hardware - so as I said, either a real hardware fault, or a firmware ACPI issue. We can test the ACPI issue relatively easily. I've an article that covers it and a possible workaround http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [15:38] taking a look [15:38] I'm curious whether BIOS builtin diagnostic test could find anything [15:40] Ubu18.04 Is there a way to make a phone call from my computer to a phone number? [15:40] tripelbsleeps: yes via skype [15:40] blackflow MS owns that. Any OTHER way? === tripelbsleeps is now known as tripleb [15:41] TheWild: From other people's lsusb with the E6540, the camera is microdia with ID 0c45:649d === tripleb is now known as tripelb [15:42] tripleb: via google voice..but if you are against MS then you're probably against other big corporations too...so your options are narrowed [15:43] tatertots, no I am ok with that but g'voice wants me to have some other phone to use (they ring on your home phone) and I have lost my phone (hoping the bus driver got it but wont know till Monday) so I have no phone at all. [15:44] TheWild: this Debian overview of a very similar model (E6530) also shows what to expect https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Latitude%20E6530%20%28wheezy%29 [15:44] I thought this was easier. tatertots bla [15:44] blackflow [15:45] I'll perform a diagnostic test and I'll be back. I'll also look for detailed info of the camera in BIOS setup if there are any. [15:45] Hi! Does Ubuntu get the same driver version at the same time as other releases and if it doesn't does that even matter? I'm trying to decide which distro to install :) Thanks! [15:45] Then if I must PAY MONEY TO MS I will.. but... [15:46] eltese: your question doesn't make sense, can you explain some more? [15:47] tripelb: what's so special about MS? you pay money to your ISP, no? and the electric company for the juice? no? [15:48] TJ-: ah okay sorry! Yes, so I've read around a bit and many (mainly Arch) users have complained that Ubuntu uses older drivers (e.g older nvidia drivers) and that Ubuntu specifically is months behind in getting up to recent drivers. This seems like a false statement to me, but I would like to clarify [15:49] tripelb: thing with phone calls is, you need phone line terminal equipment. which requires a (most likely) paid connection to a telecom. so either it's your own andy ou have something like an ISDN card, and plug your phone line directly, or you have your telecom's VOIP technology, or you pay someone, like Skype, to do all that for you. [15:50] eltese: well, the main archive for each 6 monthly release is 'frozen' a month or so before the release date so in that sense Ubuntu will fall behind newer Nvidia releases (we go for stable not bleeding edge) *but* we have an external archive (PPA) called "graphics-drivers" that contains the latest nvidia drivers [15:52] eltese: and for LTS (Long Term Support) releases (16.04, 18.04 - April release every 2 years) they are supported and updated for 5 years [15:52] TJ-: OK, thank you so much for your answer :) So the PPA is Ubuntus version of the AUR? I was mainly concerned for gaming reasons. I do like Arch , but do not feel totally comfortable going through that installation. Would be nice to just have something that works out of the box [15:52] !ppa | eltese [15:52] eltese: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [15:52] !graphics-drivers [15:53] eltese: not quite, and the graphics-drivers PPA is official, not a random user's [15:53] !nvidia [15:53] For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » [15:53] blackflow: where is our bot info for the graphics-drivers PPA?!? [15:53] TJ-: lemme see [15:53] blackflow: OK, thank you! I think I will just go with ubuntu for now =) Thank you both so much [15:53] eltese: and we have a very active community support infrastructure :) [15:54] TJ-: the factoid database doesn't seem to have it [15:54] TJ-: Yes, that was the ultimate decider. So again , thanks :) [15:55] blackflow: right - only seems to be the binarydriver factoid [15:56] archlinux is a nice operating system, but for some it's not worth the effort . i can be anticlimactic after running all the commands and realizing the OS is not much different than other more easily installed linux OSs [15:59]