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[04:02] <lyorian> oh dear I think I may have just found a way to crash calamares but I will check if it is reproduceable
[04:04] <wxl> well we can still get bug fixes in
[04:05] <lyorian> I know
[04:11] <lyorian> ugh not reproducible
[04:16] <wxl> well that's not entirely all bad
[04:16] <lyorian> yeah it doesn't always crash
[04:16] <lyorian> and seems to be working well upon relaunching calamares
[05:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1561734490b7: Write a lot of installation in a monolithic commit for the second half of this…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1561734490b7
[05:16] <lyorian> phew that was a big lot of work needed to get done
[05:29] <wxl> lyorian: don't forget erase disk (or replace a partition) won't show up if that disk has any mounted partitions, including swaps, which are automatically mounted in our (ubuntu) live systems. one can use `swapoff` to resolve that
[05:32] <lyorian> wxl yeah that was an oversight 
[05:32] <wxl> thx :)
[05:32] <wxl> also encryption should be available soon. it's basically just checking a checkbox and entering in a password
[05:33] <wxl> fix is uploaded, but stuck in the queue. release team seems to have gone on vacation for the weekend
[05:33] <wxl> er
[05:33] <wxl> no i'm lying
[05:33] <wxl> tomorrow's daily
[05:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL819727fab170: add swapoff to get automatic partitioning to appear] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL819727fab170
 @wxl Say I needed a screenshot of the contributors page, what page would that be?
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/UK0zJFmK/file_4184.png
 @TheWendyPower [<reply to image>], That looks so nice!
 @Wolfenprey [That looks so nice!], Thank you!
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[13:51] <Wafficus> what's going on guys? Any updates from Sunday's release? I've been busy last weekend
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[14:26] <wxl> dang @TheWendyPower that looks nice. re: Contributors page you mean a place for people to go to figure out how to contribute or a list of contributors?
[14:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98
[14:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99
[14:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T100: 100 TASKS!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T100
 WE DID IT wxl!
 100 tasks!
[14:33] <wxl> omg
 @wxl Thanks! I got the contributors page worked out now. @tsimonq2 told me to use Phab.
[14:34]  * acheronuk hands tsimonq2 another power of 10
 XD
[14:36] <wxl> i wish we lived in a hexideimal world
 I totes just put out a tweet
 This is super cool
 Anyway wxl when you changed the default screen on Phab you screwed up ACLs. ;)
[14:37] <wxl> all i did was change the name of some of the menus
 I can't fix it because my default dashboard is different.
[14:38] <wxl> oh babylon was base 60
[14:38] <wxl> so what's mssed up where?
[14:38] <wxl> and the aztecs and mayas were base 20
 @wxl [<wxl> so what's mssed up where?], Go to phab.lubuntu.me when you're not logged in.
[14:40] <wxl> 404 wth
[14:41] <wxl> i don't understand how that's possible
[14:41] <wxl> the menu doesn't have acls
 I got that when I was logged in yesterday.
[14:42] <wxl> you got the 404 when logged in?
 Yesterday, yes. I haven't tried yet today. Standby.
[14:45] <wxl> @tsimonq2: looks like the history suggests the last change i made opened the ACLs rather than not https://phab.lubuntu.me/config/history/ 
 Yeah. Same today. I can see I am logged in but still 404.
[14:45] <wxl> THAT sounds to me like a totally different problem
[14:45] <wxl> can you get to any page?
 Yes. If i append the URL.
[14:46] <wxl> just not home.. hmmm
 Correct. For example /w gets me to the wiki
[14:49] <wxl> figured it out
[14:49] <wxl> and it's SO DUMB
[14:51] <wxl> it's not an ACL at all.
[14:52] <Wafficus> I registered my email but haven't got email from Phab yet :/
[14:55] <wxl> did you check your spam?
 @wxl [<wxl> it's not an ACL at all.], What was it?
[14:56] <wxl> the "built-in homepage" has to be the first option. and enabled.
 Hah
 Back in action @wxl
 Sweet
[14:58] <Wafficus> did my contribution end up in the Sunday release?
[15:00] <Wafficus> yeah it was in spam, damn
[15:00] <wxl> Wafficus: did you finish your try/except business yet? because we were waiting on that to uplad..
[15:00] <Wafficus> I made an email rule too
[15:00] <Wafficus> wxl: Not yet, I haven't had time on the weekend. I can work on it tonight though, not a problem
[15:00] <Wafficus> wxl: Did you check my latest Pastebin a few days ago?
[15:01] <Wafficus> wxl: My latest take is on my GitHub, lemme go get the link
[15:01] <wxl> that's a bug fix, really, so we should still be able to get it in.... @tsimonq2 what's the deadline for those again?
[15:01] <wxl> i haven't checked it. i was swamped at the end of the week and tagged @tsimonq2 to help you out
[15:01] <Wafficus> wxl: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
[15:01] <Wafficus> wxl: Cool, gotcha.
 @wxl [<wxl> that's a bug fix, really, so we should still be able to get it in.... @tsi …], Whenever Adam wakes up and decides to freeze.
[15:02] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: Yeah, lemme know if you're free 7:30 PM EST onward tonight
[15:02] <wxl> of course you keep coming and going *AHEM* so it's hard to have good asyncronous communication*AHEM*
 Thursday is what's on the calendar but he's done it earlier.
[15:02] <wxl> @tsimonq2: ack so any day now?//
 When he freezes though, critical bugfixes only.
[15:02] <Wafficus> wxl: Yeah, I'm free Monday through Thursday though wxl
 Like, Calamares being broken.
 That bad.
 Not "oh my icon is misplaced"
 From there we talk to the SRU team about 0 day SRUs
[15:03] <wxl> ok well i don't knkow if this is critical
[15:03] <wxl> high, maybe, but it only seems to affect a subset of people
[15:04] <wxl> Wafficus: i'm just saying you should get telegram or matrix or a bouncer set up so you're always connected here so you can see all the messages sent your way
 So you either hurry the heck up or we wait.
 We can always SRU too, but it has to follow those rules.
 Plus it won't be on the live images.
[15:05] <Wafficus> wxl: Wanna help me to setup a telegram or matrix or bouncer via freeshells.org? I tried asking around on different channels for help for that, but no one has any idea of how to do it
 Install the Telegram app on your phone and computer.
[15:05] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: Well, I'm waiting for your take on my try except clause
 Just needs a phone number.
[15:05] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: I would, but this is my work comp
[15:05] <Wafficus> I wouldn't have a comp on this kind of thing all day tbh
 OK, just your phone?
[15:06] <Wafficus> I do this when I have free time at home
[15:06] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: Sure, I'll check it out
[15:06] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: But did you look at my current take though? is that the kind of try except clause you want?
[15:07] <Wafficus> wxl: Is that the "Telegram X app on Google app store you're talking about?
[15:07] <wxl> @tsimonq2: libfm-qt FTBFS on armhf and i386.. help?
 @Wafficus [<Wafficus> tsimonq2: But did you look at my current take though? is that the kin …], I haven't yet. Been super swamped. I missed a week of school and I'm still catching up.
[15:07] <wxl> Wafficus: go to telegram.lubuntu.me/develeopment and it should sk you
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: libfm-qt FTBFS on armhf and i386.. help?], Ack, looking
[15:07] <wxl> argh development
[15:08] <wxl> @tsimonq2: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/392237320/buildlog_ubuntu-cosmic-armhf.libfm-qt_0.13.1-5ubuntu5_BUILDING.txt.gz
[15:08] <wxl> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/392235750/buildlog_ubuntu-cosmic-i386.libfm-qt_0.13.1-5ubuntu5_BUILDING.txt.gz
 BAD SYMBOLS
 Aaaaaargh
[15:08] <wxl> that's your fault neener neener :)
 Freaking... Grrr
 I'll fix it later.
 Bahh
[15:09] <wxl> @Wafficus: https://telegram.org/dl/android
[15:09] <Wafficus> wxl: Ah gotcha, so it IS that Telegram app.
 wxl: T99
[15:09] <Wafficus> wxl: So when I download it, just add "lubuntu-devel" to the channel list right?
[15:09] <wxl> wxl: i'm working on it but wanted you to see this
 XD
[15:09] <wxl> @Wafficus: like i said, just go to telegram.lubuntu.me/development on your phone's browser and it will open it right up
[15:10] <wxl> @Wafficus: to be fair, i use matrix and not telegram on my phone. @tsimonq2 is the telegram expert so ask him
 No wxl you have it spot on.
[15:10] <wxl> well also letting him know so he doesn't ask me for help with it later XD
[15:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1972
[15:12] <Wafficus> I got Telegram but have no idea how to go into this channel from it though
[15:13] <wxl> @Wafficus: like i said, just go to telegram.lubuntu.me/development on your phone's browser and it will open it right up
[15:13] <wxl> there you go
[15:13] <wxl> now change your username to Wafficus
 Let's see
[15:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#1973
 Cool can I make it so it can only send me notifications whenever I'm only mentioned ?
[15:15] <wxl> i think so. i know matrix can. @tsimonq2 ?
 Yes. Mute the notification for the channel. You will still get at notification.
[15:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1974
 Yup
 Cool
 I wonder if anything directed to me can just be sent as an sms too. Now that'd be cooo
 Cool
 @Wafficus [I wonder if anything directed to me can just be sent as an sms too. Now that'd b …], I don't think so.
 @Wafficus maybe set a profile pic too? :)
 I think negative on the SMS thing. I get push notifications anyway.
 Right.
 Yeah gotcha. Tsi, check out that github link I posted earlier though and lemme know if that's sufficient.
 Sure.
 Thanks. I would have tagged your Simon username but I didn't want to de-anon you or didn't know what you preferred.
 I don't care :)
 Call me Simon, @tsimonq2, whatevs
[15:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#1975
[15:31] <wxl> hey whatevs
 Cool thanks for confirming. Usually with IRC I prefer anon usernames but since I'm part of this team I'm fine with either too.
[15:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1976
[15:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T101: Evaluate the window manager situation] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T101
[15:33] <wxl> we're punting T32 right @tsimonq2 ?
 @wxl [<wxl> we're punting T32 right @tsimonq2 ?], Yes
 @Wafficus [Cool thanks for confirming. Usually with IRC I prefer anon usernames but since I …], Right, thanks :)
[15:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#1992
[15:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#1993
[15:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#1994
[15:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#1995
[15:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T101: Evaluate the window manager situation] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T101#1996
 Did anyone use wine? In my case it has not been able to create the menu entries.
[15:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#1997
[15:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2000
[15:41] <wxl> i would ask the wine folks honestly. i'd expect wine to work as well in lubuntu as anything else
[15:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2001
[15:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: how does one add a language on weblate?
[15:44] <wxl> nevermind
[15:46] <wxl> @tsimonq2: can i get an admin account on our weblate, please?
[15:46] <wxl> why don't we have all languages exposed?
[15:47] <wxl> it's supposed to come with like 150
[15:47] <wxl> compare https://weblate.lxqt.org/languages/ https://translate.lubuntu.me/languages/
[15:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: can i get an admin account on our weblate, please?], Sure, I'll do as soon as I can.
 @acheronuk [need to test if this is backportable to 5.13.5 🤔 https://cgit.kde.org/discover. …], works, so in the queue :)
 @wxl [<wxl> it's supposed to come with like 150], Weblate doesn't come with it, we have to add it. Weblate just has support for them.
[15:50] <wxl> https://docs.weblate.org/en/latest/faq.html#where-do-language-definitions-come-from-and-how-can-i-add-my-own
[15:50] <wxl> of course maybe that's what you mean
[15:50] <wxl> so gimme an account
 wxl: You need to create an account first.
[15:51] <wxl> k 1s
 @wxl [<wxl> of course maybe that's what you mean], No it isn't.
 I have to go through and document it but it's a real PITA to be frank.
[15:51] <wxl> hm
[15:51] <wxl> ok we have a request (actually it's been on the list for a long time) so i'd like to figure it out
 Ok
[15:52] <wxl> point me at a doc and i can probably muscle through it
 That's the thing, it has to be done by hand.
[15:52] <wxl> does cala support multicore processing? https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-tweaks/+bug/1795252
 Locales are because we don't remove all the locales that aren't needed. Cala is a red herring.
[15:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#2012
[15:53] <wxl> so the locales take a long time because we're not doing something? huh?
[15:54] <wxl> double negatives jeez
 We don't remove the extra packages.
 So it installs like ten locales.
[15:54] <wxl> oh
[15:55] <wxl> ok
[15:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#2013
[15:55] <wxl> so can we get apt to conditionally use multicore processing?
 Where's your darn Weblate account? :)
[15:55] <wxl> getting there
[15:55] <wxl> i think i'm up to 10 things t once
 It's localegen dude.
[15:55] <wxl> OK FINE CAN IT DO MULTICORE PROCESSING DARNIT
 I DON'T KNOW I'M GOOGLING
 :)
 Just create the darn Weblate account XD
 @tsimonq2 [I DON'T KNOW I'M GOOGLING], duckduckgoing?
 @HMollerCl [duckduckgoing?], That
 Ooh looks like Gentoo fixed it
[15:58] <wxl> done
[15:58] <wxl> gentoo fixed what?
[15:58] <wxl> also +1 @HMollerCl
 @wxl [<wxl> done], Full permissions given.
[15:59] <wxl> thx
[15:59] <wxl> doc?
 @wxl [<wxl> gentoo fixed what?], Apparently we have to patch glibc to fix it >_<
 Looking into it now
[15:59] <wxl> to fix localegen multiprocessing? jeez
 Doc can come later, it's going to have to because I'm stuck with this darn Chromebook at school :)
[15:59] <wxl> link me to that
 @wxl [<wxl> to fix localegen multiprocessing? jeez], Yeah
[15:59] <wxl> yeah all good
 is the standard that alt+f2 opens the runner?
 Let me see if I need to patch it yet.
[16:00] <wxl> Alt+R i believe
 I'm used to super_l+r but that's because of windows.
[16:00] <wxl> that's what i usually set it to
[16:00] <wxl> and i was surprised it just worked
[16:01] <wxl> @tsimonq2: well i just want the link for the sake of throwing it into this bug and pointing the bug away from us XD
 @wxl [<wxl> and i was surprised it just worked], in yesterday daily?
[16:02] <wxl> i believe so yes
 will check again
 Oh my god
 This glibc patch is scaring me
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/Ktp1hy6V/file_4185.mp4
 @tsimonq2 [<reply to image>], Me, right now.
[16:05] <wxl> give us the link
 Gentoo apparently forked Debian's locale-gen. Gentoo bug 592300.
 Our copy is at https://salsa.debian.org/glibc-team/glibc/blob/sid/debian/local/usr_sbin/locale-gen
[16:07] <wxl> @tsimonq2: what's the difference between "accepted" and "done" when it comes to the upload queue?
 Their copy is at https://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo/src/patchsets/glibc/extra/locale/locale-gen?diff_format=h&view=markup
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: what's the difference between "accepted" and "done" when it com …], No technical difference.
 You can treat both the same.
[16:08] <wxl> but they're not.... ?
 I'm not sure of the full details, right now I'm just trying to wrap my head around this freaking glibc patch. :)
[16:09] <wxl> don't look further into this locale-gen thing. i'm going to repoint the bug report at locale-gen, drop the link there and let someone else deal with it
 Adam is the glibc master so maybe ask him.
[16:10] <wxl> just nevermind glibc
[16:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2014
[16:10] <wxl> when we remove the right packages it won't even be a thing
 Right.
 OK.
[16:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2015
[16:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2016
[16:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2017
[16:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2018
[16:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T99: Support cycle for 18.10] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T99#2019
 @wxl [<wxl> i believe so yes], Yes is working super_l + r
[16:15] <wxl> yay
[16:18] <wxl> @acheronuk: did you not upload some new discover fixes?
 wxl: You might want to note in the packaging tutorial that in the development release, !(NEW) queue is Release Team and in stable releases it's the SRU Team, but NEW is Archive Admins.
 Technically NEW in stable releases also is the SRU Team, but there's overlap in the teams.
[16:22] <wxl> jfdi i gotta go to work :)
 ENOCOMPUTER
 I'm eating my lunch :)
[16:23] <wxl> jfdi anyways
[16:23] <wxl> :)
 Bah
[16:26] <acheronuk> wxl: I did
[16:29] <acheronuk> now on ubuntu6 for discover, adding more and more patches. sigh....
 @acheronuk [<acheronuk> now on ubuntu6 for discover, adding more and more patches. sigh....], At least it's not as bad as debian-installer
[16:32] <tsimonq2> !info debian-installer cosmic
[16:32]  * tsimonq2 shudders
[16:32] <tsimonq2> ubuntu553!
 hahaha
[17:03] <wxl> acheronuk: where are they? it looks like discover hasn't changed since january and i dont' see antyhing in the queue
[17:03] <wxl> err
[17:03] <wxl> wait
[17:03] <wxl> wrong source package OOPS XD
[17:05] <acheronuk> wxl: patches https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/discover/tree/debian/patches?h=kubuntu_cosmic_archive
[17:09] <wxl> acheronuk: oh, well, right. i was looking in the normal places.
[17:09] <wxl> @acheronuk: that's the source package plasma-discover in the archives, right?
[17:10] <acheronuk> wxl: yes
[17:10] <wxl> great thanks! now i see the upload
[17:10] <wxl> always helps to look in the right place XD
[17:11] <acheronuk> still building I think
[17:12] <wxl> says published
[17:12] <wxl> oh
[17:13] <wxl> not 6 that just hit proposed
[17:13] <acheronuk> yup
[18:29] <wxl> has sum mismatch grabbing updates for the images so respinning
[18:29] <wxl> not sure why i didn't get a notification
 wxl: So that discussion with Adam turned into "pitch to the TB tomorrow why anything more than a seven month support cycle is a waste of time."
 I'll do it; I have stats
[18:47] <wxl> i saw
 So wxl, since Adam apparently has Turkey Day today (Canadians are weird 😆) it'll at least be until tomorrow.
 @tsimonq2 [So wxl, since Adam apparently has Turkey Day today (Canadians are weird 😆) it'l …], 🎉
 iso failed again. Kubuntus did earlier as well :/
 wxl: Just added a whole lot of knowledge to the Packaging Tutorial.
 Season to taste.
 Simon Quigley: did you check out my Github post? I ask cause I've been checking in on the channel via phone like you guys wanted all day between stuff at work
 @Wafficus  if you do an @tsimonq2 it will tag him.
 Thanks Dan @kc2bez
 @tsimonq2
 @Wafficus [Simon Quigley: did you check out my Github post? I ask cause I've been checking …], I haven't, sorry
 @tsimonq2 gotcha no worries. I'll be home near like 7:30 pm edt so lemme know.
 @Wafficus [@tsimonq2 gotcha no worries. I'll be home near like 7:30 pm edt so lemme know.], Alright.
 I'm going to take a nap, I'm just wiped.
[21:52] <wxl> @Wafficus here's the original link with the good error handling https://stackoverflow.com/questions/8763451/how-to-handle-urllibs-timeout-in-python-3/52375450#52375450
[21:53] <wxl> you should have an HTTPError and a URLError, with a specific handling in the latter of the timeout. also i'd make the timeout kind of uncomfortably long. maybe 90s.
[21:57] <wxl> OMG I FIGURED OUT WHY THE AUTOMIRROR FAILS
[21:58] <wxl> IT"S CUZ @TSIMONQ2 IS STUPID
 Uh oh
[21:58] <wxl> let's remember the fail happened on someone from fance
[21:58] <wxl> france that is
[21:58] <wxl> https://mirrorlist.lubuntu.me/list.json
 I never claimed my code was sane :)
[21:58] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/common/modules/automirror/main.py$92
[21:58] <wxl> Just Run It™ yourself, booboo head
 Yeah, if the county isn't there it should fail.....
 It should fall back to nothing.....
[21:59] <wxl> right, so it just dies
 But why?
 That's stupid
 What's wrong with my Python?
[22:01] <wxl> also you don't have replaced URLs in all the sources
[22:01] <wxl> jeez the more i look
 Yes, I never claimed my code was sane.
 It works!
 Anyway, go fix it.
 @tsimonq2 so is this issue fixed or no?
 @Wafficus [@tsimonq2 so is this issue fixed or no?], Ask wxl.
 @wxl so is this issue fixed then?
[22:16] <wxl> also shouldn't the handling of hasInternet = false be such that it just quits?
[22:16] <wxl> no it's not fixed
 @wxl [<wxl> also shouldn't the handling of hasInternet = false be such that it just qu …], No, it should fall back to archive.ubuntu.com
[22:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS83fbe22b2f3d: Updated the slideshow.] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS83fbe22b2f3d
 HUZZAH.
 wxl: ^
 Because it's a large update (huge diff) could somebody spot check it? I'll be happy to upload then.
[22:26] <wxl> what's the logic with that?
[22:26] <wxl> (hasInternet)
 The default sources.list that comes on the ISO is incomplete.
 Literally won't work.
[22:27] <wxl> but if there's no internet, it should just quit
[22:28] <wxl> changing it to a url isn't going to make it work
[22:28] <wxl> apt update will fail
 It should spit out the complete sources.list we have as a template falling back to archive.ubuntu.com.
 Just because they don't have network on install doesn't mean they won't ever have network.
[22:29] <wxl> ic
[22:30] <wxl> where the hell is rootMountPoint defined?
 Cala defines it
[22:33] <wxl> sigh
 Dude chill :)
[22:34] <wxl> i can't `import libcalamares` in live
 Calamares runs the file and already has stuff imported
 Plus, globalstorage only works during the install.
[22:36] <wxl> i just need to figure out its value
 You'll have to do it in a hacky way
 Debugging this sucks :)
[22:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#2020
[22:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#2021
[22:47] <wxl> ohh rootMountPoint is probably the chroot location
[22:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#2022
[22:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#2023
[22:56] <Wafficus> tsimonq2:
[22:56] <Wafficus> wxl: 
[22:56] <Wafficus> alright I'm at home
[22:56] <Wafficus> so proceed with setting the default URL to archive.ubuntu.com right?
[23:00] <wxl> actually i think my idea was wrong
[23:00] <Wafficus> wxl: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
[23:00] <Wafficus> wxl: This is with the 75 second timeout as requested
[23:00] <wxl> so go back to what i was doing above
[23:00] <wxl> basically, we need to make sure that all the urlopen calls handle all URL and HTTPErrors
[23:01] <wxl> go back to what you were doing above, i mean
[23:01] <Wafficus> ah gotcha
[23:01] <Wafficus> i'll look at that StackOverflow ex you posted earlier
[23:01] <Wafficus> wxl: Still with the getcountry() function though right?
[23:02] <Wafficus> wxl: I get the feeling that this might also impact the getmirror() function too imo
[23:05] <Wafficus> *reading that stack over flow section though
[23:11] <Wafficus> wxl: Updated code, lemme know what you think:
[23:11] <Wafficus> wxl: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
[23:12] <Wafficus> wxl: I included the ideas from that try except example, but am wondering if return none is okay for the default value since this is the function that decides the country. Probably choose mirror's default should be changed to "archive.ubuntu.com" as suggested by tsimonq2 
[23:14] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: *updated code for getcountry() above including try except example
[23:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T102: Draft release notes for 18.10] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T102#2024
[23:27] <wxl> Wafficus: follow the example more closely. HTTPError and URLError should be handled separately. note that socket.timeout is a URLError
[23:28] <wxl> also the getmirror() function needs the same exact handling
[23:31] <wxl> Wafficus: also nevermind the default mirror thing. the way the code works, it takes care of that. didn't see it before. return the same exact thing as the original
[23:34] <Wafficus> ok
[23:59] <wxl> sigh
 😞 What is the matter @wxl?
[23:59] <wxl> we don't have freaking images yet