[00:00] someone_: it means you're trying to remove a package that other packages depend on. so if you remove it, those other packages have to be removed too else they'll be broken [00:01] i don't have swap in /etc/fstab but free -h shows swap 4 gigs. Where is it making a swap at? df does not show swap ether [00:02] dman777: "cat /proc/swaps" [00:02] dman777: systemd will automount it if there's a swap partition (found by its metadata) [00:10] TJ-: thank you === bhalithan1 is now known as bhalithan [00:17] for 18.04, how do I show the grub menu on boot up? I seee a grub timeout style hidden but not sure if that is is [00:17] it === deathonater is now known as Smeef [00:20] nm....got it [00:42] Alright lets see here, I have a nvidia 1080, nomodeset during install still brings up a black screen after grub.. Any suggestions? [00:58] #linux [01:02] Or how about this - I finally got my machine booted, what is a good partitioning scheme? I installed windows on uefi but my bios suppots both. Ubuntu didnt give me the option to install "along side" Windows so I am not even sure it knows its there - that worrys me because I dont thing grub will know to put the boot options for Windows in [01:14] how can i install steam from terminal on ubuntu? [01:14] its steam-devices or steam-install ? [01:22] maxcell_: do ' apt show steam ' . If that is what you want then do ' sudo apt install steam ' on a fully updated system . === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [01:26] Bashing-om: thanks im trying here [01:27] maxcell_: :) [01:27] thing is, i downloaded Steam from the website and try to install it, it gives me an error after the install and now i can't install via apt-get install because it gives me another error [01:27] so i'm trying to remove the steam that i install from the website [01:28] i think i remove it, and i also deleted ~/.steam folder [01:28] maxcell_: There is a reson we do not support 3rd party installs . I have not the experience to advise in this case . [01:48] hello [01:48] how do you restrict kernel upgrades? [01:49] can someone please help me get wireless working on an hp stream laptop with a fresh copy of ubuntu installed on it? [01:49] it has no ethernet port, and the wireless does not work, so i cannot install anything from a repository [01:50] when i try installing the restricted broadcom driver source, i get a modprobe error saying the module wl could not be found [01:51] sudo dpkg -i bcmwl-kernel-source*.deb [01:51] then something like -> DKMS install completed. Modprobe: ERROR : could not insert 'wl': required key not available update-initrams: deferring update (trigger activated) processing triggers for initramfs -tools (0.122ubuntu8.1) ... update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-31-generic [02:02] why are some of my mounted drives(internal) hidden? while an added fstab share and separate internal are not? [02:10] these are all internal drives: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KP7vEVlN/image.png [02:11] i renamed staging and windows 10 internal drives to those names and they became hidden after. not sure how to set them to be not hidden. [02:15] kinghat: what are you running? Ubuntu or Neon? (if drives are hibernated (fast-boot is a form of hibernate; where part of fs is in hibernate file thus fs is in accurate-state); they won't be mounted [02:17] kubuntu. they have always mounted just fine and are still mounting fine. its just that they are now mounting as hidden. like the 'Windows 10' mount just turned that way after i changed it volume label. it was just a jumbled mess of text until i renamed it. [02:17] same with 'staging'. [02:19] also, i turned off fastboot on win10 os drive already. [02:19] s/accurate/inaccurate on my last; sorry kinghat I don't know, but if the fs is in a potentially unstable site; it won't 'mount' until corrected; if ntfs/winfs it's best to chkdsk in windows (which may have nothing to do with your issue) [02:19] s/site/state] === fishfox__ is now known as fishfox [02:25] kinghat: "i renamed staging and windows 10 internal drives" and now root owns the file systems ? [02:27] Bashing-om: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Atlm9WrI/image.png [02:31] kinghat: Appears to be directories rather than "drives" . a text pastebin of ' sudo fdisk -lu ' please . [02:33] Bashing-om: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7ae25c82/ [02:38] kinghat: Ok, my bad .. 4 hard drives :) .. now show in text ' ls -al /media/ ' and we step through this to verify permissions . [02:40] Bashing-om: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/629fc20e/ [02:47] kinghat: Gettin g deep .. any idea why acess control list is set for the kinghat mount point ? [02:48] nope [02:49] 'kinghat-server' is mounted smb share via fstab. [02:52] kinghat: Well; anyway let's take a look at what ACLs are set ' getfacl -t /media/kinghat '. Then see we can finger out . Be aware I have no LVM (sdd3) experience, No idea why only one partition is in that volume - or how that could work . [02:53] kinghat: If it is mounted via fstab, there is no need to also mount it in /media . no ? [02:53] no biggie on that one. sdd isnt hidden. also, its a fedora install. [02:54] i think kde is mounting it? [02:55] http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dc281839/ [02:55] kinghat: Ho kay :) Fedora does LVM ... so what drives are now hidden ? [02:57] sdc [02:57] sdb(windows 10) was also hidden, but i cant get it mounted again for some reason. ill figure that out later. [03:47] !ping [03:47] pong! [03:59] Bashing-om: ^^ [04:02] kinghat: Sorry, thought you had it under control .. Windows ? also not in my experince range . [04:02] Bashing-om: sdc(not windows) is hidden. [04:03] kinghat: looking . [04:03] im just saying the windows drive was mounting as hidden but its just not mounting anymore. im not focusing on that right now. [04:04] kinghat: sdc is also Windows -> " /dev/sdc1 2048 1465145343 1465143296 698.7G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT" . [04:09] Bashing-om: i just logged out and back in to see if the windows drive would mount again and it did. now sdb is win 10 and sdc is just an ntfs drive. [04:09] http://paste.debian.net/hidden/b49df610/ [04:11] actually, nothing changed. but sdc is just an ntfs formatted storage drive. [04:13] In a dual boot system is it possible to have Windows boot in UEFI mode and linux in BIOS legacy, after making appropriate changes in the firmware interface? [04:14] kinghat: And what file systems 0n which drives mounted where , do you not see ? [04:16] Bashing-om: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/KP7vEVlN/image.png i just want sdb and sdc to not be hidden. [04:16] rnat: Possibly? Does your Windows Bootloader appear on as "Windows Boot Loader" ie, not any specific device? [04:17] rnat: That is how mine appears and I think my Linux system boots in legacy/bios mode but I'm not sure how to actually check that. [04:18] llmatt556: No it does not . I am planning to chroot into my linux system then write to NVRAM from efibootmgr to detect Windows boot manager [04:18] llmatt556: I don't see a link to the image or paste [04:20] llmatt556: I didn't link to an image? And in that case I'm really not sure. I don't really mess with the boot manager unless something breaks [04:20] llmatt556: check whether you have /sys/firmware/efi/efivars directory [04:21] if it exits, you are on EFI [04:21] rnat: I do not. [04:22] llmatt556: it means you are on legacy bios, are you dual booting? [04:23] rnat: Yes. And I have Windows 10 booting in UEFI mode [04:24] llmatt556, not mentioned previously but you could avoid ALL of this by installing virtualbox in Windows, then installing ubuntu to a virtual machine. === capella|away is now known as capellaRots [04:25] llmatt556: hmm I would have loved to checked the output of efibootmgr -v, but you are on legacy bios, so the output would be empty [04:25] kinghat: sdb and sdc are both Windows ... are they cleanly unmounted and not in a hibernation state ? === capellaRots is now known as capellasHead [04:26] cfhowlett: I use VB to test some distros but what would I have avoided? I keep backups of both systems and my Linux and Windows boot managers are separated so if if I break one I can still boot into the other fine [04:27] fair enough. merely sharing that you could avoid any/all boot manager issues by VM'ing the ubuntu. [04:27] Bashing-om: they are both NTFS if thats what you mean? cleanly unmounted? i can browse them so not in hibernation. [04:27] cfhowlett: Yeah but it isn't the same as running it natively. [04:29] kinghat: Good .. so how are you mounting sdb and sdc ? [04:29] KDE mounts them [04:29] llmatt556: can you give me the out of sudo parted -l [04:29] output* [04:29] or discover is. not sure tbh. [04:31] rnat: Here it is. https://pastebin.com/3kcQeEuj [04:31] llmatt556: Thanks [04:34] kinghat: Several ways to mount file systems to attach them . gvfs for the GUI, fstab to be automounted at boot, or some other directory as on demand . Let's see if we can see how they are mounted. Show ' mount ' . [04:38] Bashing-om: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/75ff245d/ [04:40] hmm sdb and sdc are not listed there because they are not mounted, currently. [04:41] kinghat: Correct .. not mounted . So again, how are they mounted ... from where ? [04:41] internal drives. they were mounted till i unmounted them. when i log into my session they are mounted already. === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [04:43] kinghat: Then as they automount .. I would presume that the mounting is via fstab . ' cat /etc/fstab ; sudo blkid ' . === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [04:50] Bashing-om: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bd19bf5e/ [04:52] kinghat: looking . [04:56] odd because i dont see any of that other than my kinghat-server/share that i manually put in there. [04:57] kinghat: Not mounting sdb or sdc from the current sda install. Maybe this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604251 <-HOWTO: Mount NTFS partitions with specific ownership/permissions . [04:59] alright thanks for the help. === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [05:01] kinghat: Not to say that the neon install when booted "automounts" sdb and or sdc .. maybe from the Fedora install ? [05:02] ill check it out on next boot. [05:05] kinghat: I run 5 drives, 2 of which are presently hot: http://termbin.com/dc38 . Depending on what I want to access from where is what I boot up . === imsurit_ofc is now known as imsurit === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === blipz is now known as blipz_ === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [05:51] question: how do you move from ifupdown TO netplan? all I can find are guides on going backwards [05:52] a provider I use only offers Ubuntu 16.04, so I thought I'd just upgrade that to 18.04, but to my demise, I can't find any clear instructions on how you move from ifupdown to netplan [05:53] !netplan | sg123 [05:53] sg123: Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/ [05:54] Bashing-om: I've already read the netplan site over and over again === blipz_ is now known as blipz [05:56] sg123: server install ? Maybe here : https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html.en [05:56] Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7300 @ 2.00GHz (1.02GHz) • Memory: Physical: 2.4 GiB Total (1.0 GiB Free) Swap: 957.0 MiB Total (786.9 MiB Free) • Storage: 39.7 GB / 483.3 GB (443.6 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV610/M74 [Mobility Radeon HD 2400 XT] @ Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controlle [05:57] r Hub • Uptime: 1d 22h 57m 51s [05:57] oops [05:57] Bashing-om: yep, server, I use netplan on several of my fresh-install 18.04's [05:57] looks like netplan made the configs for systemd-networkd [05:58] now I just have to bang my head off the wall while I try to get that working [05:58] sg123: netplan here to is a process of learning. this : https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2018/9/how-use-netplan-network-configuration-tool-linux ? [06:02] `Ignoring /run/systemd/network/10-netplan-eth0.network, because it's not a regular file with suffix .netdev.` [06:03] cim209: not here please [06:03] lotus|NUC, accidentally clicked the show info menu entry [06:04] err send system info* [06:04] so uppity over nothing lol [06:05] sg123: Got me, 1st I have seen that . My notes: " -server is expected to use systemd-networkd, and it's configured via netplan " . [06:06] uhh... what's the preferred way of installing Nagios nowadays? [06:06] jas, lol [06:07] according to their official site there's version 5 out but the repos only have version 3? [06:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/netplan/+bug/1768827 [06:07] Launchpad bug 1770082 in systemd (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1768827 systemd-networkd not renaming devices on boot" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:07] found the problem :/ [06:07] set-name worked just fine on digitalocean, but doesn't want to play nicely on my physical box [06:07] I removed set-name, and sure enough `netplan try` actually set the new IP [06:08] sg123: :)) Thanks for sharing ! .. noted . [06:09] the next thing I'm wondering is whether I should be removing ifupdown, or just commenting out the config [06:10] sg123: Commenting out is an easy restore in the event it does not work out . [06:11] first i'm rebooting to see if the ipv6 address stayed, if it did then I can probably comment out /etc/network/interfaces [06:12] appears it did :) [06:23] oh... nagios 4+ is only officially supported for RHEL and CentOS... [06:31] can i install nvidia-driver-396 in ubuntu 18.04? [06:32] maxcell_: check ubuntu-drivers list first what your system reccomends [06:32] i'm having trouble with dota+vulkan with this driver (390) [06:33] on ubuntu driver manager it only has 390, thats why im asking [06:33] idk if its ok to install [06:33] or if it is possible [06:42] i heard ubuntu dev selling ubuntu to microsofts ? [06:43] heard reports of cows flying... [06:44] landing and shitting out gold [06:50] !language | jas [06:50] jas: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [06:50] !discuss | chiefjustice_ [06:50] chiefjustice_: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [06:50] lotus|NUC grow a pair...no need to respond [06:51] fuckin snowflake [06:54] <3 reminds me of the good old days where CoCs weren't a thing [06:55] ^^ [06:55] indeed [06:56] feel free to discuss at #ubuntu-ops jas Koopz [06:56] feel free to use ignore [06:57] jas Koopz this channel is readed and supported worldwide for all kinds of users, so polite volunteering is needed here [06:57] listen to lotus|NUC [06:58] hi [06:58] Hello, I have some directories which have space in their names, I want to use for loop to process them. I have for I in `ls`; do something; done. But it says the name did not find. [06:59] Do you know what should I do? [06:59] To be specific I want to zip each of them and specify a password. [06:59] mojtaba: you need quotes [06:59] eg for i in *.zip; do unzip -qo "$i"; done [07:00] TimeDoctor: I have done that, the command is: for i in `ls`;do zip --password pass "$i".zip "$i";done [07:00] TimeDoctor: I want to zip, not unzip. [07:00] yes I'm just giving an example from one of my one-liners [07:01] who is selling ubuntu to microsoft ? [07:01] nobody [07:01] TimeDoctor: Do you know what could be wrong in my command? for i in `ls`;do zip --password pass "$i".zip "$i";done [07:01] mojtaba: I'm sorry, I'm not sure [07:02] chiefjustice_: you can read news about ubuntu here https://blog.ubuntu.com [07:10] hi [07:10] oh i heard they did signed some paper with microsoft with 180000MIllion $s deal [07:11] chiefjustice_: Please don't [07:13] 180000 MIllion $? that's alot of money [07:14] yea can i get a share ? [07:14] this channel is for support, not trolling baloney [07:15] nice === deathonater is now known as Smeef [07:17] Hello all.. I'm in a nasty pickle.. I can't unlock my laptops luks boot drive, I know to ∞% I have the right pass.. what can I do? [07:17] Any SSH Tunnel gurus here [07:20] dcypher: check #openssh mate [07:20] thanks [07:21] This is what I'm seeing as far as errors https://imgur.com/a/4ka11e5 and no, my password is longer than that, I was hitting let's to figure out how to switch out of GUI mode [07:22] Keys* [07:30] Hi, I have an issue with my GPD Pocket 2 and ubuntu. When the pocket go back from suspend or when I execute "xrandr --output edp1 --rotate right" the screen stay black. any ideas ? [07:30] how can i set to the value of /sys/class/drm/card0/device/power_dpm_force_performance_level to low permanently? everytime I restart my machine, it reverted back to auto [07:31] lifeisabee7: can you ssh in and run "dmesg" to see if there's an error [07:31] lifeisabee7: when the screen is black [07:32] Ok I'll try. [07:32] Thanks [07:38] anyone know what the best FTP server for ubuntu is , that can handle a lot of load? [07:38] currently using Crush FTP but not a big fan [07:38] patz0r: be carefull with ftp, its a security risk these days [07:38] patz0r: look for an alternate, more secure protocol like ssh === semeion is now known as mnemonic [07:39] @lotus|NUC, thanks for your advice, unfortunately we need to offer it as we are a backup provider - i use SFTP with let's encrypt for our crush machines but i'd rather something not java related :) [07:43] patz0r: try out both proftpd and vsftpd, see if any of them suit your needs [07:43] Hey guys, I'm trying to upgrade from nginx 1.14.0 on ubuntu 16.04 to nginx 1.15.* but somehow when I run sudo apt-get update it's not showing any updates available. I do have "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/development/ubuntu xenial main" listed in my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nginx-ubuntu-development-xenial.list file [07:43] thanks @ducasse i'll check those two out [07:44] patz0r: both are in the repos, so fully supported [07:44] @ducasse, excellent, i've just started working at a new place using crush but I'm not a big fan so looking at other options [07:51] Re, I did a dmesg and here's the output : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6nfwdYGB6c/ . I see multiple time this :[ 301.189691] [drm:intel_dp_start_link_train [i915]] *ERROR* [CONNECTOR:59:eDP-1] Link Training failed at link rate = 270000, lane count = 2 [07:51] Ok, so I managed to get an initramfs busy box [07:53] Hi, the link to download origami instructions for Xenial Xerus is down on this page: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2016/04/28/wallpaper-design-for-xenial-xerus-16-04 [07:53] Does anyone have it somewhere? [08:01] Chouhartem: try archive.org? [08:04] I think my issue has something to do with passenger being installed with nginx. [08:15] Well.. I managed to figure out that my disk appears fine, but the luks password is... Not working at all === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === semeion is now known as mnemonic [08:34] Hey, is there a way to restore apt sources list for ubuntu to it's default state/ [08:34] ? [08:34] ducasse, « Wayback Machine doesn't have that page archived. » [08:38] :( [08:38] Furai: did you make a backup? [08:39] Nah, anyway, I'll just use the repogen site. [08:40] yes, I think it's the most straihgtforward solution [08:46] anyone on ubuntu 18.04 having issues with the service systemd-timedated ? [08:46] I can't get it to auto start/enable after a reboot [08:47] systemd-timesyncd is fine [08:51] I actually think the problem is that systemd-timedated starts successfully then stops within about 10 seconds === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [09:11] found the answer to my own question :D [09:11] it's supposed to stop if it's not being used === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [09:40] Does anybody know if Webmin works with 18.04? [09:47] !webmin | AaronA [09:47] AaronA: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. [09:49] Cheers ben. [09:49] I don't suppose, there are any alternatives available? [09:49] whats your end goal AaronA [09:50] Does anyone know when OpenJDK 11 GA will replace 10.0.2 in the package openjdk-11-jre-headless ? [09:50] !java | nabcore can this help mate? [09:50] nabcore can this help mate?: To just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software Development Kit" (SDK). Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations. [09:52] Hi Lotus|NUC, I am a novice at Linux, I was advised it's a good tool for a novice like myself, instead of going down the route of adding a GUI to a ubuntu server alot of my friends have frowned up on. :) [09:52] lotus: thank you for the link; however, that documentation seems a little out of date. [09:53] I am building a linux server for a visitor management system at one of our sites. [09:53] AaronA, try https://runcloud.io [09:53] it supports 18.04 [09:54] another one is centminmod but that's for CentOS [09:54] Cheers Cim209, I'll give it a go. [10:01] AaronA: there is also cockpit. i haven't used it, though. [10:03] hello everyone, i want ps to show process sorted by CPU [10:05] Rembo to show the top 5 can use this ps aux | sort -nrk 3,3 | head -n 5 [10:05] watch "ps aux | sort -nrk 3,3 | head -n 5" [10:06] to change how many change the 5 to another number [10:07] Rembo: --sort=pcpu [10:24] Hi Ducasse from what I have read it's available on the latest version, but I am unable to locate the package for one reason or another. [10:25] "E: Unable to locate package cockpit" seems to be the common error i receive when trying to install any packages, do I need to add a new repo? [10:33] AaronA: 'sudo apt-add-repository universe' [10:33] ah great help, I was just looking through AUR wiki page, that way was rather lengthy. [10:34] AaronA: after that, just do 'sudo apt update', and the package should be available [10:35] I'm getting errors for unmet dependancies. [10:35] dependencies* [10:36] AaronA: can you pastebin them? [10:36] https://pastebin.com/DQ62Dhsu [10:37] This is a brand new ubuntu server 18.04 setup. [10:37] AaronA: try 'sudo apt install -f' [10:38] ducasse: may i ask what "-f" does? [10:38] AaronA: 'fix broken packages' [10:38] Great. [10:38] Ducasse: seems to have done the trick, installing cockpit. [10:40] AaronA: there was a bug in the 18.04 server installer, it only enabled the 'main' repo. you might want to add the others, especially 'updates' and 'security'. maybe 'multiverse' too. [10:41] !repository | AaronA [10:41] AaronA: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [10:43] Ducasse: Thank you very much, I'll look in to this now. [10:43] AaronA: np [10:44] Duccase: All this because one of our departments doesn't want to dip in to funds to purchase a new visitor management system & want me to take over support of an older & outdated one. [10:44] Do enjoy a new learning curve. [10:44] . [10:44] Hi All, during "sudo apt-get install test_pkg", I'm getting the error "dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/test_pkg_1-1_amd64.deb (--unpack)" and "trying to overwrite '/usr/sbin/w1_test', which is also in package test_pkg2. Any idea, how to overcome this error? [10:47] sub526: #ubuntu-devel [10:55] Hi. I would like to boot installation ubuntu image form Flash drive, but from the forst partition of the Flash drive, instead of using whole flash drive, just to boot and install ubuntu === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [10:56] I dd'ed .ISO image to 2GB first partition on USB drive and would like to ensure it can boot and then install Ubuntu from it (while retaining data on another USB partition) [10:56] so question is , installing GRUB loader on USB, so it can chainload and boot ISO image from first partition on USB. [11:00] when dd'ing (x)Ubuntu ISO to the USB drive, I always get read-only partition/drive and that's the problem for me [11:01] would like to add more data to the flash drive, instead of holding just ubuntu installation [11:04] then use startup disk creator instead of dd [11:04] nikolam: try multisystem, its a tool that let you drag n drop multiple iso's on your stick [11:05] geirha, I used startup disk creator form ubuntu and got 16GB flash holding 1.4Gb bootable ISO, read only. [11:06] odd, works for me [11:09] though mine was pre-formatted with FAT32 iirc. It just wrote the files on that filesystem, and I can use the remaining space as I please [11:10] Hi. Using Ubuntu18 in a laptop which is in a docking station. This is then connected over HDMI to a display which is connected to my audio boxes. [11:10] WHen playing sound over HDMI, I get a slight delay until it starts playing. Then when I pause the audio and try to resume it some minutes later, I cant hear anything. [11:11] I need to set the volume output to "analog" then and then again to "hdmi" to get output again. [11:11] Why is this so buggy and how can I fix this? [11:14] geirha, flash drive also needs to be bootable, e.g. have GRUb in MBR. Have you added it after copying the files? [11:16] lotus|NUC, that tool seems like installing many things from 'multiverse' [11:16] no, startup disk creator did that [11:17] Startup disk creator can select only full drive here, and not partition or something and then creates read only drive with ISO on itself (with xubutu LTS image) === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [11:30] Any nvidia driver experts around? [11:31] I am seeing a black screen after upgrading a MacPro 3,1 to a GTX680 card and then installing either the nvidia-390 or nvidia-396 drivers with 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall' [11:31] Googling the issue indicates that it is a common enough problem [11:32] howarth, I first go to nvidia site and check what is latest driver supported for a card. then I install nvidia driver package from Ubuntu repo, with version for the card, with synaptic [11:32] I assume that the issue is something related to improper blacklisting of the nouveau drivers [11:32] howarth: the problems you've found reported relate to it being on a Mac, or the nvidia GPU/driver itself? [11:33] you can check what you have installed from synaptic [11:33] I get the ubuntu splash screen and progress bar [11:33] The nouveau drivers work fine [11:33] howarth: have you tried booting to text console not GUI, then testing from there? [11:34] howarth: also, do you have SSH access from another PC to do diagnosis in-place when it fails? [11:34] I can try the remote ssh approach [11:35] howarth: that would be helpful since you can capture/share logs [11:35] or ssh -X and run sudo synaptic [11:36] howarth: to check if you have the recommended drivers installed use "ubuntu-drivers list" [11:38] The machine is at home so I will have to look again after work [11:39] Currently I have been browsing the files on the System76 workstation that I use with a GeForce GTX 1050 at work [11:39] There are two blacklist files on that [11:39] howarth: first thing I'd check is the kernel log via "dmesg" to see if there is a kernel driver failure. If you see the NVRM messages look OK, then check the Xorg.0.log (in /var/log/ usually) [11:40] howarth: it's possible a kernel upgrade occurred and the nvidia driver failed to build against it - that is easily testable by choosing an older kernel version at the GRUB boot menu, via its "Advanced" sub-menu [11:41] hello [11:41] .me waves to TheWild [11:41] TJ-: thanks for the reference. I'm not yet completely sure the camera is damaged or the connection. [11:42] TheWild: well, from everything you've reported so far the camera is either missing, disconnected, or dead :) [11:42] TheWild: if it were still attached to the USB then we'd at least see a failed USB device probe in the kernel log [11:43] howarth, Ubuntu LTS nvidia-driver-390 seems to have 390.48 driver and on Nvidi site there are up to 390.87 and 396.18 for Beta driver [11:45] In the device manager I still had (warinings) Broadcom USH, Broadcom USH with swipe something, one device I don't remember right now and one unknown device (I googled the ID and points out it's just a free fall sensor). Maybe installing drivers for the rest of devices and those seemingly unrelated to camera might fix it. [11:46] Dunno. If the camera is broken then for now I either leave it or send the laptop to the service. It still isn't a full year. [11:47] TheWild: sounds like a good idea - I saw nothing in the examples from other E6540 linux reports to indicate anything special is needed - the camera is ddirectly connected to the internal USB hub [11:48] Howdy all [11:48] TheWild: On USB, devices do not need drivers in order to appear. They show up complete with all their function descriptions regardless of a driver [11:49] TheWild: and that camera is UVC (USB Video Class) so it will be operated by the kernel's generic UVC driver, it doesn't need a 'special' driver [11:53] in /etc/modprobe.d I have nvidia-384_hybrid.conf and nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf [11:53] nvidia-384_hybrid.conf appears to belong to the nvidia-384 package [11:54] nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf doesn't seem to belong to any package [11:55] both have a lines with 'blacklist nouveau', 'blacklist lbm-nouveau', 'alias nouveau off' and 'alias lbm-nouveau off' [11:55] howarth: nvidia-graphics-drivers probably comes from the PPA graphics-drivers [11:56] This is on 16.04 with a System76 built machine [11:56] howarth: to discern which packages are currently installed use "apt list --installed nvidia*" [11:57] system76-driver-nvidia/xenial,xenial,now 16.04.55+1527714667+16.04~3d614f3 all [installed] [11:58] howarth: to determine what files the package installs do "dpkg -L system76-driver-nvidia" [11:59] howarth: changes in /etc/modprobe.d/ are likely written by a package post-install (postinst) script which won't show up in the package list. [11:59] looks like System76 rolls their own nvidia packaging [11:59] https://launchpad.net/~system76-dev/+archive/ubuntu/stable/+packages [12:00] howarth: to check whether the kernel module is built, do "dkms status" if it is using DKMS - should show "installed" against the current kernel version in use. [12:01] okay, I'll check that tonight. Although I am hoping this is just a blacklisting issue [12:04] howarth: the system76 packaging doesn't make it obvious whether they're using DKMS or not, so you may have to dig some more :) [12:04] I've seen references to issues with the lightdm not working under the nvidia drive if the nouveau drivers don't get properly blacklisted [12:04] https://askubuntu.com/questions/760374/ubuntu-16-04-nvidia-driver-blank-screen [12:07] the kernel log (dmesg or /var/log/kern.log) will reveal that kind of issue [12:23] hey alk [12:24] i feel very silly, but i cannot seem to get 18.04 to accept index.php as the default directory index on an apache vhost [12:25] patience is virtue. === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [12:56] Hello all, how to stop interfaces with netpan ? It only see apply option [12:57] Any idea ? [12:57] netplan does not manage interfaces, it only gives a standardized way to configure them [12:57] golum: netplan is just configuration abstraction. you stop it using whatever backend netplan is confiugred to use [12:59] @blackflow, thanks ! on ubuntu 18.04 what should i use to stop network ? init interfaces script or systemd ? [13:00] golum: whatever netplan is confiugred to use as backend. systemd-networkd or NetworkManager. [13:00] will netpan used on other distrib than ubuntu . is debian concerned ? === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [13:00] golum: probably not. [13:03] do you know why ubuntu (canonical made this choice of netpan ? On do not know that on any other distrib ! [13:03] * i do not * [13:04] golum: because someone in position to do such changes, thinks it's necessary. === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [13:12] hallo ich stehe vor einem merkwürdigen problem mit meinen monitoren. hat evtl jemand zeit mir zu helfen? bitte [13:12] !de [13:12] In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! [13:13] thx ubottu :) [13:16] hi! what would be the best place to report what i think is a bad UX behaviour of linux? [13:16] (at least i'm 90% it's linux rather than userspace - i'm asking here because i'm using ubuntu) [13:17] sonne: here we focus on ubuntu support mate [13:17] sonne: did you find a bug in ubuntu? [13:17] lotus|NUC: that's why i'm asking for directions rather than help on my issue :P [13:17] i haven't found any existing bugs, no [13:18] sonne: lets begin from the start, wich distro are you using? [13:18] lotus|NUC: 18.10 beta, but had the same problem in bionic [13:18] ah then your support channel would be #ubuntu+1 sonne [13:18] but it's not a problem that is specific to the beta.. [13:19] sonne: explain a bit of your problem/wish please? [13:19] sure thing [13:20] i have an mmo mouse, which reports as both a keyboard and a mouse. linux seems to believe it is also a joystick. this brings all sorts of confusion to the games i play, as what they belive is player 1 is actually nothing real. [13:21] i wish i could flip some switch to tell linux/udev "that's not a joystick buddy" [13:22] sonne: when you say 'linux' you mean you experience this on 18.10? [13:22] i tried all sorts of trickery - rm/chmod'ing /dev/input/js0, attempting to set variables on udev, nothing worked... i looked at the source code of the driver, but there is nothing that hints at it being a joystick [13:22] i experienced this in the LTS and still experience it in 18.10, yes [13:25] sonne: wel as you are on 18.10 right now, i suggest using #ubuntu+1 and consider a new !bug for your issue mentioning its about both 18.04 and 18.10 [13:25] lotus|NUC: alright, thanks :) [13:26] sonne: before you place the bug, it might be worth mentioning your hardware brand and details in #ubuntu+1 [13:26] lotus|NUC: why is that? [13:27] sonne: the more details you share to channel/volunteers the more chance of your issue being known/solved [13:27] lotus|NUC: ok. i'll do that when i'm home though, so i have the hardware handy for any possible inquiry. [13:28] great sonne === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === paxis_ is now known as paxis [14:58] is it me or has Ubuntu taken UK out of EU already hahaha! [14:58] I tried to change tzdata but UK isnt listed. [15:00] nevermind they put it under london. [15:07] Brexbuntu [15:21] hello [15:48] hey there i need a little of support [15:49] https://pastebin.com/rjSq3v7J [15:49] i am unable to use USBMODEM [15:50] https://www.amazon.in/Micromax-MMX210G-Data-Card-White/dp/B00MF91LZ2 this is my modem [15:50] i am on ubuntu 18.0 [15:51] https://ibb.co/izyvDp this is how it's running [15:51] Anyone know whats the situation with intel hd 3000 family drivers and eye strain issues? Any known workable solutions ? [15:51] i tried all the steps on "README.txt" present on the modem [15:54] Any suggestions for why a kernel log would contain the lines "sda:" and "sdf: sdf1" every 15 minutes? [15:56] hans109h: those look like the prefix when the kernel does a partprobe of a device [15:56] hans109h: maybe some tool is triggering it - are you inserting/removing devices, or virtual machine images, loopback devices? [15:57] they are both physical hard disks [15:58] They both get mounted during boot [15:58] hans109h: best to show us an example, including the kernel messages surrounding these [15:59] TJ-, that's all there is. It can go a long time with only those two lines being written to kern.log [16:01]