 My ends isn't working?
[00:00] <wxl> we don't have *today*'s
[00:00] <wxl> oh
[00:00] <wxl> also images = isos
[00:00] <wxl> "disk images"
 I see!
 why is that?
 (that there are no dailies)
[00:03] <wxl> some weird hash sum mismatch thing
[00:03] <wxl> we are rebuilding now and we'll see if it works
[00:04] <wxl> basically there are two phases: (1) create the live filesystem (i.e. the squashfs) and (2) build the iso images with them
[00:04] <wxl> we're having a fail in the 2nd step
[00:04] <wxl> right now as we're talking the livefs just finished
[00:05] <wxl> this is mentioned on the testing wiki btw
[00:05] <wxl> here's the livefs info https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/cosmic/lubuntu
 I only see "successfully built" on it
[00:06] <wxl> right
[00:06] <wxl> so that's what i was saying.. the problem isn't with the first step
[00:07] <wxl> the build logs are here https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/lubuntu/cosmic/
[00:07] <wxl> if you look at daily-live-20181008.log or .1.log you'll see the hash sum mismatch
[00:07] <wxl> near the end
[00:07] <wxl> the .2 is the one that's building
 and it failed in 32 and 64 bit?
 There is a 404 for usbcreator.
 Not sure if that makes a difference or not.
[00:15] <Wafficus> back from dinner
[00:21] <Wafficus> wxl: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
[00:21] <Wafficus> wxl: Here's my latest revision with two separate except clauses
 Make sure logging is imported.
[00:22] <wxl> follow the example more closely
[00:22] <wxl> execpt HTTPError:
[00:22] <wxl>     blah
[00:22] <wxl> except URLError
[00:23] <Wafficus> ok will pay attention to that, sorry about that
[00:23] <wxl>     if isinstance(error.reason, socket.timeout):
[00:23] <wxl>         blah
[00:23] <wxl>    else
[00:23] <wxl>         blah
[00:24] <wxl> else
[00:24] <wxl>     do the stuff (i.e. the return)
[00:24] <wxl> err wait
[00:24] <wxl> no
[00:24] <Wafficus> I kinda did follow the example though
[00:24] <wxl> you should always return localedate["country"]
[00:24] <Wafficus> especially the top voted response
[00:24] <Wafficus> okay will change that return
[00:25] <wxl> so line 26 should be in the place of line 39
[00:25] <wxl> and "timeout" is not right
[00:25] <wxl> socket.timeout is a URLError. it should be handled as part of the URLError except
[00:26] <wxl> so for each URLError, test for socket.timeout and deal with it, otherwise it should be some other URL Error
[00:26] <wxl> HTTPError and URLError are not the same thing
[00:26] <Wafficus> ah separate try and except clauses
[00:26] <Wafficus> ok
[00:26] <Wafficus> I'd be lying if I didn't know where to start lol
[00:26] <wxl> think of an HTTPError as an error that could be, for example, related to a remote server being misconfigured
[00:26] <wxl> think of URLError as a fundamental error in the protocol, like a device failure
[00:27] <Wafficus> right, when you say it makes sense theoretically
[00:27] <wxl> just copy and paste the whole thing as you see it but change the try XD
[00:27] <wxl> and don't forget you need to import the errors
[00:28] <wxl> @tsimonq2: who's the weirdo we have to test this out? https://phab.lubuntu.me/T82
[00:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Fix edge case resulting in the install desktop file not being removed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T82
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: who's the weirdo we have to test this out? https://phab.lubuntu …], Uuuuuuh
 I dunno XD
[00:29] <wxl> who reported the error?
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/X43vdqYW/file_4187.mp4
 I just remember someone did.
 Was it climby?
[00:30] <wxl> you are useless sometimes XD
 @kc2bez [Was it climby?], Climby was 32 bit EFI
 Separate issue.
 Ok. Wasn't sure if this was him too.
[00:32] <wxl> https://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/714.gif
 Now wxl go test that slideshow
 we have images!!!!
[00:33] <wxl> i'm testing about a billion other things
[00:34] <Wafficus> wxl: You're gonna laugh but I took your revisions to heart just to prove we're on the same track. I did a second function below called getcountry2(), and just wanted to know if that's the direction you want with it:
[00:34] <Wafficus> wxl: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
 (the first ones to have from oct9)
[00:34] <wxl> hahah yep
[00:35] <Wafficus> wxl: Obviously the second one will be renamed to the actual getcountry(), but is that what you want?
[00:35] <wxl> line 49 is a mistake
[00:35] <wxl> remove that
[00:35] <Wafficus> ok removing now
[00:35] <wxl> 55 should be some other blah (like 35)
[00:35] <wxl> 51 should be 33
[00:35] <wxl> 47 should be 29
[00:35] <wxl> 53 should be unique
[00:37] <wxl> 53 can be "some other error happened"
[00:37] <wxl> or "non-timeout protocol error" or something
 I'm downloading it to test as well. My internet is running super slow tonight, so it may be a few hours... 😏
[00:42] <wxl> everyone go test encryption like crazy but i can verify it works fine for bios/dos
[00:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T29: Calamares should support encryption, other file systems, etc.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T29#2026
 Woot, closing old tasks
 🌟 wxl
[00:45] <Wafficus> wxl: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
[00:45] <Wafficus> wxl: updated it with your suggestions
[00:45] <wxl> go fix those symbols @tsimonq2 
[00:45] <wxl> that's your priority tonight
[00:46] <wxl> Wafficus: it's not 100% right syntactically (you need more colons, e.g.) and you didn't fill out 54 but otherwise looks good
[00:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] Climby (Michael Garrison) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2029
[00:48] <wxl> not sure if this is to be expected but an html file in pcmanfm-qt opens by default in featherpad and firefox is not a listed option
[00:48] <wxl> i'm not against it
[00:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2030
 I'd want to open the file in both (editing and testing), but I would just search for Firefox. I don't see it as a must fix now, but for ease-of-use it should probably on the list.
[00:52] <wxl> Super key works!
 Way to go @wxl!
[00:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T82: Fix edge case resulting in the install desktop file not being removed] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T82#2033
[00:53] <wxl> it was a team effort on that one from what i remember XD
 I'd say that you have a very large hand in that fix!
[00:54] <wxl> maybe a trump hand
 LOL
 A super hand maybe?
 For the super key.
[00:56] <Wafficus> wxl: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
[00:56] <Wafficus> wxl: how about this
[00:56] <Wafficus> got my voting card in the main ;) cya at the polls everyone in a month ^_^
[00:56] <Wafficus> *mail
 @wxl [<wxl> maybe a trump hand], Trump's hands are average sized, so that's accurate.
[00:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] Climby (Michael Garrison) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2037
[01:00] <wxl[m]> Uhhhhhh not in relative terms
[01:00] <Wafficus> wxl: Anyway, lemme know what you think, I'll check in tomorrow morning before work. Gonna go relax cause it was a long day at work today. Now that I have that Telegram app, I can definitely stay more in touch
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Uhhhhhh not in relative terms], Another fake news lie :)
[01:00] <wxl[m]> @Wafficus that last one should be a success not blah
[01:01] <Wafficus> wxl[m]: cool, will change that
[01:01] <Wafficus> right now
[01:01] <wxl[m]> Ok because pictures are fake
[01:01] <Wafficus> well, on a similar note
 Dude, his hands are normal sized. :P
 Wafficus: Check Telegram
[01:01] <Wafficus> ever notice how the CNN broadcast deliberately enhances the orange in the broadcast?
[01:01] <Wafficus> :/
[01:01] <Wafficus> of his face rather
 Yeah.
 CNN does a lot to bash Trump...
[01:02] <Wafficus> kinda bs, its like making Obama's face look more white or something. They would have never done that during his presidency
[01:02] <Wafficus> just saying.
 But, this isn't a politics channel :)
[01:02] <Wafficus> yeah for sure
 PM me on Telegram and let's have a political discussion
[01:02] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: hell yeah :)
 I'm feeling LUKy @wxl
 😆
[01:06] <Wafficus> wxl[m]: current change: https://github.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
 @wxl [<wxl> Super key works!], awesome!!! I'm cretaing my bootable flash drive. This strange pc doesn't have virtualization option in the bios, apparently ecause of that I can't run 64bit virtual OS.
 Arc-darker default gtk theme worked!!! Thanks to the cpp manual
 Super_l+r doesn't seems to work
 Super_r+r yes
 And logout confirmation also works
[01:36] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2038
[01:38] <wxl[m]> We can change the shortcuts any way we want now. We just patch upstream
 Sweet!
[01:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] Climby (Michael Garrison) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2039
[02:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2040
[02:41] <wxl> @Wafficus looks reasonable to me
[03:04] <wxl> @TheWendyPower https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/branding/lubuntu/Office.png should be LibREOffice
[03:04] <wxl> @TheWendyPower should https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/branding/lubuntu/FindUs.png be a screenshot of the homepage?
 @wxl [<wxl> @TheWendyPower https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/br …], That is not how it reads on their own logo as it boots.
[03:06] <wxl> no i mean the text
[03:06] <wxl> below "lubuntu," above "productivity suite"
[03:06] <wxl> also questions about https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/branding/lubuntu/show.qml
[03:06] <wxl> line 18-19: are the spaces essential syntax?
[03:08] <wxl> why are some images smooth and some not?
 @wxl [<wxl> @TheWendyPower should https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ub …], It is about to change. So I talked to @tsimonq2 about it, and decided not to show the homepage. I can change that.
[03:09] <wxl> and why not use qml to add the text? seems like it would mke it a lot easier for non-artsy fartsy folks to change basic strings if need be
[03:10] <wxl> is there a reason to not make the id something sensible and specific to the particular slide, e.g. office instead of image7?
 They are all smooth as the PNG. The installer compresses the images somehow. I and not using the QML to add the text, because when we did that if the window was expanded the text would go off the image. My download is almost done, and I can check to see what the images look like (none testing from dropping files).
[03:12] <wxl> i wonder if relative positioning isn't an option
[03:13] <wxl> FindUs.png does not appear to be smooth
 When you look at the PNG or in the slideshow?
[03:16] <wxl> i'm looking at the qml file
[03:16] <wxl> every image has "smooth: true" except that one
[03:21] <wxl> it looks like there's all sorts of layout options exposed by qtquick so you could do all sorts of things
 Opps! I can add that. I tried to make the images scale. Making them larger than the base size, and adding the fill mode. The images still wouldn't scale, and they were jagged.
[03:22] <wxl> i mean this will do the trick but i think we should probably try to go back to letting qt manage the elements at some point. we just don't have to figure that out now
 I agree I want QT to manage the elements. I also want the images to scale to the window size. These are things I will continue to work on.
[03:24] <wxl> yeah let's not worry about it now
[03:24] <wxl> so libreoffice and we're good i think :)
 Here is the thing, if it really doesn't look good during the slideshow, we shouldn't use it. Do you think it looks bad?
[03:26] <wxl>  no not at all
[03:26] <wxl> i just think libreoffice is misspelled XD
[03:27] <wxl> @tsimonq2:  you ever ghoing to fix those symbols? :)
 Dang, you were pointing out spelling, not capitalization. :-P  I will fix that and add smoothing. Let me get kids fed (super late too), and I'll get that done.
[03:34] <wxl[m]> Right. Thanks and good job! I think I'm going to go lay down
[03:44] <lyorian> HmollerCI there are some 64 bit CPUs that don't have virtualization cpu options enabled for example core 2 duo t6500 
[03:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS030028768bad: Fixed spelling on Office.png and added smooth: true qml to first slide.] TheWendyPower (Wendy Hill) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS030028768bad
[04:03] <lyorian> tsimonq2: the reasons the screenshots were a bit behind is there were some artwork things like windows as default theme I don't want to look in manual and I have other things I needed to write for the manual
[04:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7d6f15c7a582: Change spec.rst and spec.pdf for last minute seed changes in programs.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7d6f15c7a582
[04:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL76bf62ade228: Fix indentation of systemtools toctree.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL76bf62ade228
[04:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T67: Repository for manual for LXQt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T67#2042
[04:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] Climby (Michael Garrison) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#2043
 trojita is in
 Huzzah
 Caught up on msgs
 wxl: if that's good do you want me to do the commit tonight? Also are you free later just in case I'm too stupid to follow the contribution guide to the T again later tonight?
 @TheWendyPower I changed in the Lubunu Arc theme this color: ... window.inactive.button.unpressed.image.color: #7F8388 ... now the inactive window buttons matches the title colors. Before that, when I wanted to close inactive windows, was a little confusing. What do you think?  ... The other thing we could do to match the real arc t
 @TheWendyPower and we could add color to the close button with a line like this: ... window.active.button.close.unpressed.image.color: #f95f57
 @HMollerCl I haven't had and issue with the buttons on the inactive window, but I'll take a look! I'm moving a bit slow this morning...
 this is the color that firefox use window.active.button.close.unpressed.image.color: #cc575d
 @HMollerCl the lighter inactive window buttons look really good! I'm going to play with the close button color a bit more.
 here is the firefox arc theme https://github.com/horst3180/arc-firefox-theme/tree/master/arc-firefox-theme/chrome/browser/custom_images/dark/window-controls
 and you can see the gtk3 theme in /usr/share/themes/Arc-Darker/gtk-3.0/assets
[15:35] <wxl> @Wafficus yeah i should be around. you should ping both @tsimonq2 and i to ensure someone gets back to you. if you still have the original repo that you uploaded before in the same state as it was, you just need to make changes and arc diff. otherwise, grab the repo, arc patch D# where # is th enumber of your revision and then make changes and arc diff. make sure you test this in a live system first
[15:42] <wxl> @tsimonq2: can you please get the symbols for libfm-qt fixed?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: can you please get the symbols for libfm-qt fixed?], Dude, patience
[15:45] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i'm concerned about the freeze. that package is the first step to fixing our actual problem.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: i'm concerned about the freeze. that package is the first step …], We can get a symbols fix past the freeze.
[15:48] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you didn't hear me. that is only the first step.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you didn't hear me. that is only the first step.], Why can't you use the test build to test the second step and layer it on top in -proposed?
[15:49] <wxl> ok fair enough
 wxl: Perhaps it should be documented somewhere that once a source is accepted from NEW, the binaries also need processing from NEW.
[15:57] <wxl> whtcha mean?
 Sources build binaries, and they're handled separately.
 Check Cosmic NEW right now.
 The Trojita binaries haven't been approved.
[15:58] <wxl> oic
 wxl: yeah thankfully I uploaded that last folder directory to my Github so it should be easy. I'll ping you or Simon later for sure
[16:12] <wxl> so @tsimonq2 i need to keep bugging archive admins to review the binaries? or what's the deal?
 @wxl [<wxl> so @tsimonq2 i need to keep bugging archive admins to review the binaries? …], Yup. Keep bugging.
[16:13] <wxl> is that what the "pending publication" step is?
 Wat?
[16:15] <wxl> if you !upkg trojita and open the proposed bit, it says the binaries are all pending publication
 But it also says all the builds are in NEW. Technically it's factual, because you can't publish the binaries in -proposed until it's greenlighted via the queue.
 By the way, I have a feeling that @acheronuk has the LP publisher down to a science now. Maybe ask him if you have any questions about it being weird. :P
 For example, it's super fun when texlive or libreoffice has to publish... ^_^
[16:20] <wxl> f*** texlive
 XD
 That's one source package.
 ALL of those binaries and all of the code.
 It's freaking massive.
 And it takes the publisher a while...
[16:21] <wxl> it's pretty dumb, that
 I think at one point it would hold up all publishing for several hours.
 HOURS.
[16:22] <wxl> ok we've got the go from vorlon
 Huzzah.
[16:24] <wxl> still waiting on publishing
 There's also going to be a minimum of 30 minutes for Britney to realize the binaries are published and decide whether it can migrate or not.
[16:25] <wxl> XD
 a bit weird to have to approve the source, then approve the binaries, but yes it does go like that
 Often times they do it at the same time, but in this case vorlon didn't.
[16:26] <wxl> well i grabbed the deb in live for libfm-qt and everything blows up. i'll try in an installed system when i get to work but that's a bad sign
 I find it's much cleaner to log out, install the deb via tty2, and log back in.
[16:41] <wxl> well i installed it and restarted sddm so more or less the same
[16:41] <wxl> maybe there were additional changes necessary to pcmanfm???
[16:41] <tsimonq2> Maybe it just needs to be rebuilt.
[16:42] <wxl> OH i bet
[16:43] <wxl> is there a way to trigger that or would it be better to update the control for pcmanfm-qt to require this particular version or greater of libfm-qt?
[16:43] <tsimonq2> Do that in a PPA and append ~ppa1.
[16:43] <wxl> for pcmanfm-qt?
[16:48] <tsimonq2> Yeah.
[16:49] <tsimonq2> Make sure -proposed is enabled for the PPA though.
[16:50] <wxl> right
 so seeing as trojita is set to be added to Lubuntu 18.10, i decided to try it out again (via wxl's testy-testy, in a VM), but i encountered the same bug i saw when i tried compiling it myself: plain text mails get displayed with one character per line. i have no idea what's the issue, this time the entire setup is as default as can get
[17:34] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: 
[17:34] <Wafficus> wxl: l
[17:34] <Wafficus> hey guys Im free to do the commit from my phone actually
[17:34] <Wafficus> with Termux
[17:42] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: 
[17:42] <tsimonq2> OK.
[17:44] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: Heres my current main.py
[17:44] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: https
[17:45] <Wafficus> tsimonq2: https://gitub.com/SBanya/lubuntuBugs/blob/master/bug1794844/main.py
[17:50]  * wxl teaches Wafficus how to copy and paste XD
[17:50] <wxl> Wafficus: did you test this?
[17:51] <wxl> @marneu this is with display?
[17:52] <Wafficus> wxl: not yet unfortunately, dont have my Linux laptop at work
[17:52] <wxl> Wafficus: i'd make sure it works first
[17:52] <Wafficus> wxl: so if it works as a function alone, is that good enough?
[17:52] <Wafficus> wxl: cause it does in that case
 @wxl [<wxl> @marneu this is with display?], Could you clarify the question?
[17:53] <wxl> Wafficus: put it in place in the live system and run the installer. if it doesn't break, that's good
[17:53] <wxl> @marneu display of a message or composition of a message
[17:53] <Wafficus> wxl: So place this on an actual ISO flashed drive?
[17:53] <wxl> @Wafficus: no, boot to the live system and put it in place there
[17:54] <wxl> @Wafficus: like overwrite the main.py on the live filesystem
 Ah. Yes, that's a message I received. In this case it's only plaintext, but when I receive a html message, the plaintext tab is also weirdly narrow like 40 characters per line).
[17:55] <Wafficus> wxl: Ah I see. So place the newest cosmic iso on a drive, boot it to the live system, and replace it right?
[17:55] <Wafficus> wxl: like would I have to do the install all over again. Theres something Im not understanding about this
[17:55] <wxl> can you provide a screenshot of that @marneu? also if you can tell me the version you're using in manjaro (better yet the earliest version you can remember this working in)
[17:56] <wxl> Wafficus: boot the live system. take your main.py and change the main.py on that system accordingly. run the installer. if the installer succeeds, you are fine. but yes, install again.
[17:57] <Wafficus> but wouldnt that override all my stuff on my laptop?
[17:57] <wxl> you're not using virtual machines?
[17:57] <Wafficus> I only ask cause I have some rc files, and guides I might need to backup
[17:58] <Wafficus> I did for my 4 gig laptop but it died last week
[17:58] <Wafficus> I only have my 2 gig ram laptop running Lubuntu
[17:58] <Wafficus> left
[17:58] <Wafficus> I took a screenshot of what you said though, makes sense
[17:58] <wxl> you should be able to starve the vm to 512mb and it will still run
[17:58] <wxl> i think
[17:59] <wxl> what's the lower limit for ram on the installler, @tsimonq2 ?
[17:59] <Wafficus> gotcha, Ill try that for sure
[17:59] <Wafficus> Lubuntu within Lubuntu haha
[17:59] <Wafficus> nuts
[17:59] <tsimonq2> wxl: There's no hard limit but I think the recommendation is a gig
[18:00] <wxl> ah it'll prolly work
[18:00] <wxl> or maybe i'll just do it for you
[18:00] <wxl> unless you get it donei n the next hour
[18:01] <wxl> or unless someone else wants to do it
[18:01] <wxl> anyone want to help wafficus test something????
 wxl: lunch hour is up sorry :/ I'll be able to try when I get home
[18:04] <wxl> anyone with a vm
[18:04] <wxl> please, it's super easy
[18:04] <tsimonq2> Yes dear?
[18:05] <wxl> go overwrite the automirror main.py with wafficus' and run an install
[18:05] <wxl> if it does not fail, we at least have a sanity check done
[18:05] <tsimonq2> o
[18:05] <tsimonq2> *ok
[18:05] <wxl> thx
[18:06] <tsimonq2> Meanwhile I think we have this 32-bit EFI thing almost worked out.
[18:06] <tsimonq2> OH
[18:06] <tsimonq2> And yeah, I'll also test Cala
[18:06] <wxl> i just need climby to test that last one
[18:06] <tsimonq2> Right.
[18:06] <wxl> which cala? encryption? already did (for dos/bios/64)
[18:07] <wxl> i think the problem with what i gave climby was using the `commmand:` format without specifying a `timeout:`
[18:07] <tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower One big argument for text in the slideshows is translations work better. Maybe for next cycle could you try and play with the text to get it to work?
[18:07] <tsimonq2> wxl: I thought he said it worked.
[18:07] <wxl> but i also redid it so it matches the spacing of the default
[18:07] <wxl> oh he did?
[18:07] <tsimonq2> And bah, yes, testing the slideshow.
[18:07] <wxl> oh heh having looked at email yet :)
[18:07] <tsimonq2> Uhm, yeah, check the task. XD
[18:08] <tsimonq2> Secureboot with those devices would be fun too, if we can manage it.
[18:08] <wxl> let's try to find a really good qml intro tutorial for wendy
[18:08] <wxl> and anyone else that's going to want to help
[18:08] <tsimonq2> Wendy's been figuring it out just fine I think :)
[18:09] <wxl> well indeed.. and she had the previous work to deal with.. but none of them dealt with layouts so there's giong to be some new new stuff
[18:10] <wxl> @marneu one other thing that would be nice is if you could lead me to the place in the manjaro world where i can see their packaging, especially the patches they have applied to the upstream source
 (Photo, 932x939) https://i.imgur.com/FPSj8s8.jpg The amount of characters displayed differs a lot in different emails, too. On some it's perfectly fine, but on most it's way to narrow.
[18:15] <wxl> @marneu same result in full screen?
 (Photo, 932x939) https://i.imgur.com/Cug1p7K.jpg and the html display of that same email
 yep, no change at all
 i'll see if i can find that manjaro iso.
[18:19] <wxl> O_O https://repology.org/metapackage/trojita/versions good god which version do you have install @marneu
[18:20] <wxl> i don't even see a link to trojita for any of the manjaros
 I wonder if it is in the aur.
[18:22] <wxl> i don't know anything about manjaro but i guess that might make sense
 It is arch based so you can install aur stuff.
 phew, it's giving me a hard time. i don't really know much about arch, so i have to rely on what trojita itself tells me, which isn't much ("version 0.7", so helpful). the iso name is manjaro-lxqt-17.1.12.2-stable-minimal-x86_64.iso, retrieved on 2018-08-25. i'll see if i can figure out how to have arch display a package version.
 Pamac or octopi would be the graphical package manager.
[18:27] <tsimonq2> I like the slideshow @TheWendyPower, just waiting to see if @Wafficus' stuff works now. :)
 Had to install Pamac first. This is it (same build date as my local copy): https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/trojita/
 trojita 0.7-2, built on 2018-09-06
 And the bug is definitely not present there, I checked again just now.
 Can you tell which repository it is pulling that from. Never used pamac personally but in octopi it tells you either the community, aur, or stable I think.
 @marneu [Ah. Yes, that's a message I received. In this case it's only plaintext, but when …], same thing happened to me, I assume is trojitas problem and not @wxl
 Repository: community ... Could this be related to locale? My system language is set to en_US, but keymap (and the language used in the emails) is de
 @marneu [Repository: community ... Could this be related to locale? My system language is se …], Mine is sp
 Or es I believe
[18:47] <tsimonq2> wxl: @Wafficus' changes LGTM.
 wxl: what's LGTM?
[18:48] <tsimonq2> Looks Good To Me.
 Ah gotcha
 Thanks
[18:48] <tsimonq2> Thank *you* :)
 Big help to literally wxls decision thinking. Taught me that it's better to keep except statements separate and have the final one be the positive intended result
[18:51] <tsimonq2> :D
[18:56] <wxl> does it work for en_US/en
[18:56] <tsimonq2> Yes.
[18:57] <wxl> trojita does?
[18:57] <wxl> plaintext?
[18:57] <tsimonq2> oh
[18:57] <tsimonq2> no
[18:57] <tsimonq2> Different thing.
[18:57] <wxl> yeah see above sorry :)
[18:57] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:57] <tsimonq2> Unclear wxl is unclear.
 I am not in front of my install right now, when I tested it I may have only checked html mails.
[19:00] <tsimonq2> wxl: Testing a symbols update in a PPA now, wish me luck.
 (Photo, 1121x661) https://i.imgur.com/b6rucMr.jpg welcome screen for me in trojita
[19:02] <wxl> @tsimonq2: if you want to help test, grab trojita, set it up and look at plaintext https://i.imgur.com/FPSj8s8.jpg
 Is it normal that also welcome screen doen't use all the wide?
[19:02] <tsimonq2> wxl: Already doing.
[19:04] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yup, I can reproduce it.
[19:04] <wxl> can you get me a screenshot?
 (Photo, 1280x686) https://i.imgur.com/fQAv5tG.jpg
[19:12] <wxl> guess who gets a gold star? @marneu does !!! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
[19:13] <tsimonq2> Round two of fun symbols fixing.
 noice.
[19:13] <wxl> thanks to the hint on majaro i was able to find the fix
 extra noice!
[19:13] <wxl> it's actually mentioned in the AUR comments https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/trojita-git
[19:13] <wxl> https://github.com/annulen/webkit/issues/511#issuecomment-338685652
[19:14] <wxl> two very small patches to webkit fixes the problem
[19:14] <tsimonq2> I'll take care of that now then.
[19:14] <wxl> oh thanks :)
[19:14] <tsimonq2> I already have upload access to the package in Debian and Ubuntu and it should go in both places, sooo
[19:14] <wxl> nice
[19:17] <wxl> i don't know if everyone noticed but https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96 is open again.. @HMollerCl and @TheWendyPower i think you've messed with it the most so check that out
[19:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
 @wxl [<wxl> i don't know if everyone noticed but https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96 is open a …], ok, will look how to put the breeze icons as default.
[19:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
 @wxl any hint of how to DDGit? "libreoffice default packging theme"???
[19:29] <wxl> i think i did libreoffice theming or something of the sort
 that give me info on how to change the theme, but not how to put it as default for a distribution.
[19:31] <wxl> well how do you change it?
[19:32] <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you have trojita added to our seeds yet?
[19:32] <tsimonq2> wxl: I'm doing that now.
[19:32] <wxl> thx
 @wxl [<wxl> well how do you change it?], tools->options->libreOffice->view and there in Icon Style select "Breeze"
[19:33] <wxl> ok so i'll teach you a fun trick
[19:33] <wxl> open a terminal
[19:34] <wxl> `touch` some file. let's just `touch ~/foo`
[19:34] <wxl> then make the change
[19:34] <wxl> and then go back to the terminal and do `find ~ -type f -newer ~/foo`
[19:34] <wxl> that's like saying "look through my home for any files that have a modification date newer than ~/foo"
[19:35] <wxl> i would assume something in ~/.config changes so you might want to start there
[19:35] <tsimonq2> WOAH.
[19:35] <tsimonq2> That's cool.
[19:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: Put that in #debian-til.
[19:35] <wxl> my generally linux-disabled coworker (he does mostly database stuff) taught me that one
 @wxl [<wxl> i would assume something in ~/.config changes so you might want to start t …], yes but /home/hmoller/.config/libreoffice/4/user/registrymodifications.xcu
[19:36] <wxl> you put it there. i didn't learn it today XD
 the "4" doesn't seems canonical
[19:36] <wxl> oh no.
[19:38] <wxl> looks like they have a dev channel with a nice web interface https://irc.documentfoundation.org/?settings=#libreoffice-dev
[19:40] <wxl> it doesn't seem there's any package that has a file like that :(
 they do make different versions, I don't know how https://colibreoffice.wordpress.com/2018/05/30/check-the-defaults/
 https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=803a3539975059d2fde5b0eab3e0850ba155368a
 maybe in that clear manual in cpp we can get something
[19:56] <wxl> that seems crazy
[19:56] <wxl> do you think you could check at their dev channel? maybe they can offer some advice
 need to be registered with freenode. Do you know if they have an irc channel?
 maybe is time to come back to irc. Last time I used was in late 90s with mIRC.
[19:58] <wxl> you should :)
[19:59] <wxl> registration will still be a necessity tho
[19:59] <wxl> but that's easy on freenode
 I asked the question will see what they response
[20:08] <wxl> thx
 @HMollerCl easiest Linux way to use IRC is to use Weechat in terminal imo. Their starter guide on their site is pretty helpful too to setup your acct and password plus you can auto sign into channels too. I recommend it since I usually just use weechat on my laptop or android phone via termux. Though freenode in Google Chrome as it's
 @Wafficus [@HMollerCl easiest Linux way to use IRC is to use Weechat in terminal imo. Their …], thanks! will look at it
 @HMollerCl you're welcome Lubuntu fam :)
 @wxl [<wxl> thx], not much happening in #libreoffice-dev. They ask me how many single-char-prefixed ubuntus are and then they came up to ubuntu christian edition ubuntuce.com
 and now I know what Poe Law is.
 *Poe's law
 One thing I wish open office could do right are pivot tables and ribbons
 The ribbon. I wish they made it look identical to ms office.
 @Wafficus [One thing I wish open office could do right are pivot tables and ribbons], Libreoffice has iproved a lot pivot tables
 not sure what ribbons are (I'm used to use it in spanish)
 Ah gotcha. I tried using it earlier this year for actual work using pivot tables for work and it just didn't work
 Ribbon as in the UI
 Maybe it's copyright concerns though
 you mean the icon layout?
 Yeah like in the actual program
 They call that the ribbon in Microsoft office
 Like button layout, GUI etc
 It just always has felt all over the place and just old tbh
 yeah I get it.
 But I should complain on their irc than here ha
 still in #libreoffice-dev they came with ubuntu satanic and justin bieber linux.
 and from the manual in cpp I got: ... IconThemeSelector::GetIconThemeForDesktopEnvironment(const OUString& desktopEnvironment) ... { ...     OUString r; ...     if ( desktopEnvironment.equalsIgnoreAsciiCase("kde4") || ...          desktopEnvironment.equalsIgnoreAsciiCase("kde5") || ...          desktopEnvironment.equalsIgnoreAsciiCa
 do I need to "bump" my question in libreoffice-dev? Giving that there are new people entering
 @HMollerCl [and from the manual in cpp I got: ... IconThemeSelector::GetIconThemeForDesktopEnvir …], This right here is the answer.
 Find the code in LibreOffice, patch it for LXQt.
 ok, I will try to do it by myself.
 not sure how to get the right libreoffice source
 @HMollerCl [not sure how to get the right libreoffice source], `pull-lp-source libreoffice`
 I'll talk to oSoMoN tomorrow.
 @tsimonq2 [I'll talk to oSoMoN tomorrow.], But please still do it :)
 Should be the usual process for patching a file.
 I'm on it
 is `pull-lp-source libreoffice` or  ... git `pull-lp-source libreoffice` or ... git clone `-lp-source libreoffice`
[21:23] <wxl> `pull-lp-source`
[21:23] <wxl> that's part of the "Not on Phab" exception that is yet to be written
 and that should replace the uscan part?
[21:25] <wxl> basically yes
[21:25] <wxl> i can't remember if it untars or not
 ok, will see whenit ends downloading
 but I havent initialized git. How shoudl I know where should it be uploaded when the patch is made?
[21:30] <wxl> i'm guessing this is what you want https://code.launchpad.net/~libreoffice/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+git/libreoffice-debian-pkg
[21:30] <wxl> i.e. also unwritten stuff: how to do a merge request on launchpad
 should I start again cloning that? or with pull lp-source is ok?
 sorry, I'm confused.
[21:31] <wxl> pull-lp-source is only for the source
[21:31] <wxl> you'd want to start with cloning the above most likely
[21:31] <wxl> here's the members of that team which also may be able to help https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+members#active
 ok, so instead of cloning phab I clone that,
[21:32] <wxl> so osomon is one of them.. doko too
[21:32] <wxl> right
[21:36] <wxl> (both of those being on irc should you want to ask them, that might be good)
[21:36] <wxl> doko's on #kubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-devel
[21:36] <wxl> e.g.
 dpkg-source: fallo: tar -xf - --no-same-permissions --no-same-owner --anchored --no-wildcards-match-slash --exclude */.pc --exclude .pc subprocess returned exit status 2 ... pull-lp-source: Error: Source unpack failed.
[21:42] <wxl> did you pull-lp-source libreoffice ?
 yup
 that's the final message I got
[21:42] <wxl> huh
 I got a lot "thre is no space left" or similar
[21:42] <wxl> that probably means your hard drive is full? XD
 A df - h will tell you.
 95%
 500M fre
 e
[21:44] <wxl> that's Probably Bad™
 Might want to delete something.
 will have to increase virtual drive
[21:44] <wxl> rm: cannot remove ‘something’: No such file or directory
 LoL
 Got me there.
[21:45] <wxl> XD
 jajaa
 @tsimonq2 I can see how having the text in the QML code would help with translation. Though it has been submitted for the 18.10 release, I'm not done working on it, as in it is I project I will keep tweaking and working on developing. There were things I thought should have worked that didn't, and I'm not sure why yet. Here is o
[21:56] <wxl> @TheWendyPower I don't know of anything. To be frank, you know more QML than I do by far XD
[21:56] <wxl> i'll ask the cala folks
 @wxl Thanks!
[21:58] <wxl> @TheWendyPower you should hook up with @Wafficus since he was working on a bit of a QML project himself. you could help each other out
 👍👍👍
 wxl: well you deployed me for automirror. Once I commit my changes, do you want me to move back to learning qt to help with Calamarres?
[22:10] <wxl> yes pls @Wafficus
 You got it
[22:10] <wxl> @Wafficus a good starting point may be helping @TheWendyPower figure out proper layout of the slideshow
[22:11] <wxl> there's no extra programming logic involved (as with the whole radio button thing) so should be fairly simple, relatively speaking
 wxl: This is pretty handy with the Telegram app cause weechat usually bugs out if not enough mobile signal is sent through
[22:11] <lyorian> I am currently working on the hard part of the manual of how to upgrade from previous release 
[22:11] <wxl> that's the idea :)
[22:11] <wxl> go lyorian go lyorian 
[22:12] <lyorian> grr I tried screenshot but did not quite got them working I don't think
 wxl: gotcha I'll reach out to Wendy tomorrow onward then regarding that then for sure
[23:11] <wxl> yay the cala 32bit efi thing is as good as fixed
[23:12] <wxl> i just need to do the work when i get home
[23:12] <wxl> unless someone else wants smoething to do? :)
[23:27] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lubuntu-meta (cosmic-proposed/universe) [1.14 => 1.15] (lubuntu)
[23:43] <Wafficus> hey guys im back
[23:43] <Wafficus> wxl: 
[23:43] <Wafficus> wxl: you ready to help me make that commit?
[23:44] <wxl> @Wafficus: go for it
[23:50] <Wafficus> ok
[23:50] <Wafficus> so my file is setup
[23:50] <Wafficus> aka WORKDIR is good
[23:54] <wxl> so do you have the thing set up as when you did this last time?
[23:55] <Wafficus> wxl: not sure, I just git cloned it from my GitHub
[23:55] <Wafficus> I'm assuming just do the Long story short thing
[23:57] <Wafficus> im in WORKDIR
[23:57] <Wafficus> and it says I don't have the access rights again
[23:57] <Wafficus> git clone ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/PACKAGE.git
[23:57] <Wafficus> ^ for that step
[23:57] <Wafficus> I have the WORKDIR setup like last time where it contains calamares-settings-ubuntu