[00:03] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> in fact Virtualbox asks for a 32 bit Ubuntu
[00:04] <Mo4_xi1_ge1_Ren2> it doesn't show any other option to select when you try to indicate you are installing ubuntu on it
[00:04] <netcrash> RoscoePColtrane, ok, thank you
[00:25] <gostforest> ok just figured out ther blacking out problem
[00:25] <gostforest> it has to do with the model of the pc not the os
[00:25] <gostforest> my pc has an hdmi so i can switch.
[00:36] <shareabrainwave> Hi, I just installed my printer and its prints are way too dark, any hints?
[00:43] <blackhaze> is anyone there?
[02:27] <pl4gue> jello
[02:32] <cim209> KDE's power management is disabled when chromium is open, is there anyway to force it to use the power management?
[02:56] <HiddenDjinn> anyone know their way around mx port forwarding?
[03:11] <pikia> using sshfs, i can mount the remote dir fine, but I seem to not have permissions to edit files on there
[03:12] <pikia> I've already tried adding idmap=user to sshfs
[03:12] <pikia> and that doesn't seem to change much.
[03:26] <brimonk> What's the debug symbol package for getenv.c? My program is crashing in it, and I have no idea why.
[03:55] <k_sze[work]> What's a possible reason that I can't connect to bitbucket's SSH port from my Ubuntu PC, but I can from my Debian server, on the same network, behind the same router?
[03:55] <joe_z> is it possible to downgrade a fresh ubuntu 18.04 server install to an older kernel?
[03:55] <joe_z> I'm troubleshooting a freezing issue that may or may not be related to kernel bugs
[03:56] <pikia> k_sze[work]: are they different users?
[03:56] <joe_z> I have a debian VM that isn't freezing, and an ubuntu one that is
[03:56] <pikia> Make sure you're sshing like [user]@remote
[03:56] <pikia> where user is the user on the remote
[03:56] <joe_z> but it seems like there's only 4.15.x on ubuntu
[03:56] <joe_z> I'd like to go back further than that
[03:56] <joe_z> preferably to same version as debian, for comparison (4.9.x)
[03:57] <k_sze[work]> pikia, I am using the same user. I'm just trying to run `git clone git@bitbucket.org:...` on both machines.
[03:57] <pikia> what error are you getting?
[03:57] <k_sze[work]> no error yet. It's just stuck on my Ubuntu Bionic desktop.
[03:58] <k_sze[work]> I don't think it's a DNS issue because I tried `host bitbucket.org` on both machines and the results are identical.
[03:59] <mateothegreat> what about ssh -T git@github.com
[03:59] <pikia> stuck?
[03:59] <k_sze[work]> pikia: yes, as in nothing has been printed to the terminal since I entered the command.
[03:59] <pikia> Check if your git.config is set up on your machine?
[03:59] <pikia> Oh, ctrl+c to exit and try again
[03:59] <pikia> :3
[03:59] <k_sze[work]> I did
[04:00] <k_sze[work]> mateothegreat, let met try
[04:01] <mateothegreat> also what does this get you: cat ~/.ssh/config
[04:01] <k_sze[work]> nvm
[04:01] <k_sze[work]> figured out
[04:01] <k_sze[work]> my .ssh/config was corrupted for some reason.
[04:01] <mateothegreat> ^5
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> joe_z: its a security risk going back to older kernel versions
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> joe_z: only try this for testing purposes
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> joe_z: if you find a new !bug on your kernel version, please report it
[04:04] <joe_z> lotuspsychje: sure
[04:04] <joe_z> but first I have to figure out how to get to an older kernel
[04:04] <joe_z> doesn't seem trivial
[04:04] <joe_z> no packages for anything except 4.15
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> joe_z: on bionic kernels get automatic cleaned up, you should have at least 3 older kernels left?
[04:11] <joe_z> lotuspsychje: it's a brand new install
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> joe_z: oh, i see then try installing a !mainline higher kernel for testing purposes
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | joe_z
[04:12] <joe_z> I installed an image from 16.04LTS
[04:12] <joe_z> direct downloaded the deb for a 4.10 kernel (closest to the one on debian that seems to work)
[04:13] <joe_z> just for testing of course
[04:13] <joe_z> I would *never* run an old kernel for months
[04:13] <joe_z> even if it is a meaningless server that's not really a big deal if it's insecure
[04:13]  * joe_z whistles
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> joe_z: try mainline for testing kernels instead of manual debs
[04:14] <joe_z> yeah, I'll do that eventually
[04:15] <joe_z> things still freezing with old kernel
[04:15] <joe_z> not sure what's going on then
[04:16] <joe_z> FYI, I'm trying to run a minecraft server
[04:16] <joe_z> I'm not really sure how minecraft could be locking up the VM
[04:17] <joe_z> oh
[04:17] <joe_z> I got a kernel panic this time
[04:17] <joe_z> unfortunately it's partly scrolled off the screen...
[04:18] <joe_z> but it seems to be related to vmxnet3 drivers
[04:18] <joe_z> had a fatal exception in interrupt
[04:35] <EliterFFC> I am wanting to host my own password manager.
[04:35] <joe_z> OK, so VMXNET3 is broken or something
[04:35] <EliterFFC> What software do you guys suggest? I have a server that I always run, and I don't want to give away all my passwords to some other company.
[04:35] <joe_z> seems to work OK in ubuntu...
[04:36] <joe_z> err, in debian I meant
[04:44] <joe_z> yep, not sure what's wrong, but it's reproducable consistently
[04:45] <joe_z> if I open a port, connecting to it locks up the VM
[04:47] <fishfox> EliterFFC: I have played with Passbolt in the past, it is open source and has a free to use version
[04:47] <joe_z> but only if I connect to it with the minecraft client...
[04:47] <joe_z> but it happens even if it's just netcat listening on the port
[04:48] <joe_z> I'd be curious to see if the debian VM does that too, but if I lock that one up, then I'm locked out
[04:48] <joe_z> since that's my gateway in right now...
[04:56] <qwebirc25069> Hello, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 18.04.1 onto a T460 and keep ending up with an error at boot, "failed to open \efi\boot\mmx64.efi - Not Found"
[04:57] <qwebirc25069> I also noticed it is still listing the windows boot manager in the boot list despite multiple erase full disk installs.  I've disabled secure boot and am not sure what else I can do to get past it... anyone have any pointers?
[05:02] <gbear14275> interesting... /efi doesn't even exist (that I can see with ls)
[05:02] <joe_z> that's likely a computer firmware message
[05:03] <joe_z> do you have an EFI partition?
[05:03] <gbear14275> yeah, I've let the installer partition one and even tried manually partitioning one
[05:04] <gbear14275> SDA1 EFI System Partition
[05:05] <gbear14275> joe_z: I found an article saying there was some acer specific trust setting back during the 14.04 times.... that still something that would affect a lenovo t460?
[05:11] <gbear14275> tried to set bootnext using efibootmgr... see if that works
[05:11] <gbear14275> brb
[05:20] <gbear14275> ok back... no go
[05:20] <gbear14275> I did disable the windows boot manager in bios though
[05:22] <gbear14275> so looking at the listing of items from efibootmgr output my error message on boot seems to be trying to add an ubuntu entry as one higher than the current ubuntu entry
[05:23] <gbear14275> for example... efibootmgr says "Boot0001* ubuntu" while the startup error I'm getting now says "Creating boot entry "Boot0002" with label "ubuntu" for file "\EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi""
[05:24] <gbear14275> however I can't find a directory \EFI\ either under / or /boot/...
[05:25] <gbear14275> although maybe it's not mounted?
[05:26] <gbear14275> how big is your efi partition supposed to be?
[05:26] <KoolaidJunkie> I'm trying to dual boot Win10 and Ubuntu, but it won't install GRUB (or at least its not booting into it) -- I went through the install process via USB, system reboots, but it goes directly to Win10.. please help?
[05:27] <Triffid_Hunter> KoolaidJunkie: might have to go tell your bios which EFI entry to boot first
[05:27] <gbear14275> KoolaidJunkie: try going into your BIOS and disabling your windows boot manager.... although I'm not sure I'm one to ask because I can't get my system to boot at all
[05:28] <joe_z> KoolaidJunkie: sounds like a boot order issue
[05:28] <joe_z> had that trouble on an HP laptop
[05:28] <joe_z> had to find the boot menu and force it to boot linux
[05:28] <joe_z> then I was able to fix it by adjusting the boot order in efibootmgr
[05:29] <joe_z> worse yet, I had to do that every time I entered the bios, because it would reset it
[05:29] <joe_z> even worse, eventually they updated the bios and couldn't fix it from efibootmgr anymore
[05:29] <joe_z> I just have to enter the boot menu on that laptop every time now
[05:30] <joe_z> I don't use it so much anymore, at least
[05:30] <KoolaidJunkie> @Triffid_Hunter, I don't have an option in BIOS for that.. the BIOS is very limited when it comes to option
[05:30] <KoolaidJunkie> @gbear14275, I don't have option to turn off Windows Boot Manager in BIOs
[05:31] <gbear14275> KoolaidJunkie: you don't have a "boot" setup section of your BIOS?  that's where I found mine
[05:31] <gbear14275> or "startup" with boot order
[05:31] <joe_z> KoolaidJunkie: you may have to find the boot menu
[05:31] <joe_z> which is not in the setup
[05:31] <joe_z> it might not even exist
[05:31] <joe_z> but likely it's a different key to bring it up than the one to get into the setup
[05:32] <gbear14275> I'm trying to diagnose mine with the efibootmgr tool... speaking of which I'll be back... gotta reboot (one system house)
[05:32] <KoolaidJunkie> @gbear14275, there is a booth order, but it only gives 4 boot options "Windows Boot Manager" "CD/DVD" (which this tower doesn't have) "Removable Drive" "LAN"
[05:33] <KoolaidJunkie> There are 4 Boot Sequences (1st 2nd 3rd 4th) -- I set all to disabled, but 1 = removable
[05:34] <KoolaidJunkie> and it boots to a screen that says "Reboot and Select proper Boot device"
[05:34] <KoolaidJunkie> or "Insert Boot Media in Selected device and press a key"
[05:36] <gbear14275_> well crap
[05:47] <KoolaidJunkie> ah forget it, I'll just do a single install system with ubuntu. don't really need windows anyways
[05:48] <mateothegreat> KoolaidJunkie: welcome to the club my friend
[05:50] <KoolaidJunkie> been years since I messed with linux.. never had any "major" issues like this before..
[05:50] <KoolaidJunkie> I just trying to setup a media server -- so really don't need Windows anyways, kinda wanted it incase wanted to use it on the TV some time..
[05:51] <ledeni> KoolaidJunkie: you need cold shutdown win10
[05:51] <KoolaidJunkie> huh?
[05:51] <ledeni> KoolaidJunkie: like shift + shutdown
[05:52] <KoolaidJunkie> oh, (wasnt sure thats what ppl caled that) -- tried that, even turned off fast boot..
[05:52] <KoolaidJunkie> it just refuses to boot into GRUB
[05:53] <KoolaidJunkie> or anything but Windows..
[05:53] <KoolaidJunkie> And if I don't add "Windows Boot Manager" to the boot list, it won't boot to anything, not even USB
[05:54] <gbear14275> There been a lot of boot issues lately?
[05:54] <gbear14275> I've never had installation issues before this
[05:54] <KoolaidJunkie> wonder if its because the old desktop is an Acer running BIOs
[05:56] <ledeni> KoolaidJunkie:  did you try to press tab when you boot after cold shutdown
[05:56] <KoolaidJunkie> what would TAB do ?
[05:57] <ledeni> KoolaidJunkie: go to grub option
[05:59] <KoolaidJunkie> Isn't doing anything..
[06:00] <ledeni> KoolaidJunkie: ok just forget
[06:00] <ledeni> KoolaidJunkie: did you install ubuntu
[06:01] <KoolaidJunkie> Yes; I chose the first option to install along side Windows 10
[06:01] <ledeni> ok
[06:03] <gbear14275> Do you guys recommend the boot-repair tool?
[06:08] <KoolaidJunkie> Well it boots into ubunut if Windows is gone.. grr.. whatever i guess
[06:10] <gbear14275> KoolaidJunkie: it's for the best
[06:18] <gbear14275> ugh, can anyone spot whats making me have "failed to open \EFI\BOOT\mmx64.efi - Not Found" errors?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nqXGcZFyG2/
[06:19] <gbear14275> This continues to confuse me... efibootmgr doesn't even have my ubuntu entry's listed in the boot order
[06:19] <lotus|NUC> EriC^^: one for you ^ :p
[06:22] <gbear14275> lotus|NUC: was that in reference to my request?
[06:22] <lotus|NUC> yes gbear14275 EriC^^ is our uefi specialist
[06:23] <gbear14275> Thank you lotus|NUC , I may have to be leaving soon unfortunately... should I email my report to the boot-repair@gmail.com email address as well?
[06:24] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: we dont do that kind of support mate, try to idle here and re-ask once in a while
[06:24] <gbear14275> ok will do lotus|NUC , thanks sir
[06:24] <gbear14275> or ma'am
[06:25] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: are you singlebooting or dualbooting with ubuntu?
[06:25] <gbear14275> singlebooting
[06:25] <gbear14275> I disabled the windows boot manager from the bios menu
[06:26] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: then installing ubuntu should not be too hard, just disable fastboot & secureboot
[06:26] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: then F12 to boot your ubuntu usb key
[06:29] <gbear14275> lotus|NUC: yeah, I've been trying different settings and following this howto: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295 but keep getting caught in a boot loop
[06:29] <gbear14275> ooh one sec
[06:29] <gbear14275> ok, so I just unchecked a "lock boot priority" flag in the BIOS and now I'm to a new screen.  Perform MOK management
[06:30] <gbear14275> 4 options: Continue Boot; Change Secure Boot State; Enroll key from disk; Enroll hash from disk.  Any advice?
[06:34] <gbear14275> Change secure boot kept asking me for digits of a password I didn't know... so ended up continuing to boot
[06:36] <gbear14275> ok different question... I keep getting 403 Forbidden errors on my apt updates...  Is something wrong with my ISP or is that just the server being overloaded?
[06:36] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: are you behind a firewall/router, added external ppa's to your system?
[06:37] <gbear14275> no this is brand new... just booted for the first time and ran apt update and got a 403
[06:38] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: try a direct cable connection to your modem for a test?
[06:38] <gbear14275> Err:1 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease 403 Forbidden [IP: 91.189.91.26 80]
[06:39] <gbear14275> lotus|NUC: I get it on my server which is hard wired as well
[06:39] <maxcell_> hi
[06:39] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: think its your end blocking mate
[06:40] <maxcell_> i was here yesterday with a problem about dota+vulkan with 390 driver and today someone of you release a patch for nvidia driver on ubuntu that fix this problem
[06:40] <maxcell_> so i want to thank you
[06:40] <lotus|NUC> maxcell_: can you recall who it was
[06:40] <maxcell_> that's was insanely nice of you
[06:40] <maxcell_> i cannot i'm sorry
[06:41] <lotus|NUC> maxcell_: what patch is that?
[06:41] <gbear14275> lotus|NUC: that ip is for canonical out of boston... the other weird thing is it's intermittent.  I get 1 out of 3 working ok
[06:41] <gbear14275> maxcell_: that is pretty awesome coming back to say thanks!
[06:41] <maxcell_> it was a patch for 390 driver nvidia prop. now it is 390.77 and it correct the bug with dota+vulkan
[06:41] <maxcell_> oh i was just mind blowing with that
[06:41] <lotus|NUC> gbear14275: you could ask in #ubuntu-mirrors but i advice to test your connection first before you ask there
[06:42] <maxcell_> mind blowed? well you got it haha
[06:42] <lotus|NUC> maxcell_: you downloaded the .77 from the ubuntu graphics ppa?
[06:42] <maxcell_> no it is on the regular repo now
[06:42] <maxcell_> i just apt-get update/upgrade
[06:43] <maxcell_> in the morning
[06:43] <lotus|NUC> ok tnx 4 feedback maxcell_
[06:43] <maxcell_> and get this surprise
[06:43] <maxcell_> thank you
[07:02] <k_sze[work]> Is the numeric keypad supposed to work correctly in the Terminal app in Ubuntu Bionic desktop?
[07:02] <k_sze[work]> e.g. Vim can tell the difference between numeric keypad digits and the row of digits above the letters on a keyboard.
[07:03] <k_sze[work]> So it can map commands to the numeric keypad digits.
[07:03] <k_sze[work]> but when I try that in the Terminal app, nothing seems to happen.
[07:27] <k_sze[work]> ok, this is weird. I do `sudo showkey -k` in the Terminal app, press the digit 1 on the numeric keypad, and see keycode 79.
[07:29] <k_sze[work]> I thought the digit 1 is supposed to be keycode 87, according to `xmodmap -pk`?
[08:44] <autra> Hi! I have a weird problem: in a new kubuntu 18.04 installation, I cannot cd into /media/<my-user>. in a laptop on Ubuntu 16.04, I can do that just fine. Permissions and owner seems to be the same in each case. Any idea what's going on?
[08:44]  * autra is double-checking permissions
[08:45] <autra> drwxr-x---+  8 root root 4,0K oct.   9 10:27 autra/ in one case, and drwxr-x---+ 11 root root 4,0K oct.   9 10:18 autra/ in the other
[08:46] <autra> seems to be the same, right? :-/
[08:47] <autra> on the 18.04 laptop, groups says : autra adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[08:47] <autra> on the 16.04, groups says: autra adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare docker vboxusers
[08:50] <pabed> hi guys could you introduce me a stable and voip client to me ?
[08:51] <wreo> pabed, had a look at wire (wire.com)?
[08:53] <Triffid_Hunter> autra: with those permissions you shouldn't be able to cd into either
[08:54] <autra> yes indeed, but yet, I can in my 16.04 box...
[08:54] <autra> I feel like I'm missing a piece of the story here.
[08:54]  * autra brb
[08:55] <grr12314> help. after restarting after the last updates, windows no longer come to the front when i click them. exept if i specifically click the title bars
[08:55] <grr12314> 16.04 almost brand new install
[08:56] <pabed> wreo: let me check
[08:56] <grr12314> this is seriously annoying
[08:58] <nikolam> I have problem with using SMB/samba network share, share don Linux Ubuntu LTS, from Windows 10 1703 machine. both SMB password for a user and Linux user's passwords won't enable looking for shared folders on Linux server.
[09:00] <grr12314> wow this is terrible. i fixed it but the fix/cause just boggles the mind
[09:00] <grr12314> the "window action key" in tweak tools had no value selected. after i changed that it fixed the issue.
[09:01] <grr12314> altho it has no relation to it at all
[09:01] <grr12314> and also it sure had a value before the updates
[09:04] <grr12314> wait it gets worse - setting "window action key" to "disabled" again returns the issue. WTF
[09:11] <nikolam> I basically can access Linux server from Windows, aether via SMB or via NFS
[09:15] <tinyhippo> good morning, I'm struggling to add a screen resolution for my monitor that ubuntu hasn't detected, but whenever I try to switch to the new resolution, I get xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed
[09:15] <tinyhippo> does anyone have any suggestions for what I could try?
[09:18] <nikolam> can't
[09:19] <nikolam> tinyhippo, Make sure monitor is turned on when starting ssytem. My other monitor can't get right resolutions if not started while system is turning on
[09:19] <tinyhippo> its _definitely_ turned on when I start the system
[09:28] <rpifan> hi my machine has an nvidia gpu and ethernet card and ubuntu cant seem to conenct to the ethernet
[09:37] <anddam> hi, is adding a desktop file to /usr/share/xsessions the proper wat to add an entry to lightdm?
[09:38] <anddam> I did so in order to add a minimal dwm session option and it works, but I wonder where should I setup the actual xinit for that session
[09:38] <anddam> not sure if this is an Ubuntu's question (I'm on 16.04), a freedesktop'
[09:39] <anddam> not sure if this is an Ubuntu's question (I'm on 16.04), a freedesktop's one or whatelse
[09:39] <Greyztar> anyone could help out correcting cmd,trying to delete all files in folder "stuff" with args after path,    find -delete -type f /path/to/stuff -size -1000000k -not -name "*exclude2*" ! -name "*exlude2*"    when doing so all in stuff folder gets wiped,is that delte arg recursive or so?
[09:39] <anddam> (fat-fingered)
[09:39] <Greyztar> delete*
[09:40] <Greyztar> trying to delete all files below given size,without the excluded ones
[09:43] <anddam> Greyztar: you need a search path AFAIR, also don't start with -delete, try -print and see what's matching
[09:43] <anddam> oh missed the /path/to/stuff in third position
[09:45] <Greyztar> anddam: always best going with echo and so y,i also did,however the delete arg did not work as expected omegalul all my stuff gone,was luksvolume on loop device also so no luck with testdisk recovery but thats another story hehe
[09:45] <Greyztar> anddam:always with linux learn the hard way i must
[09:47] <blackflow> Greyztar: best kind of learning, Yoda.
[09:48] <Greyztar> blackflow: (,")
[09:48] <ocx32> hello, i implemented samba on my server with this configuration, now if user1 copies and pastes a file into the directory, it copies correctly but user2 cant see it , what is missing?is user1 created in samba directly mapped to the linux user account user1 and writes with that as owner?
[09:48] <ocx32> https://pastebin.com/WwCWgdaU
[09:49] <ocx32> the files are 777
[09:51] <lotus|NUC> !samba | ocx32
[09:58] <grr12314> hi. can anyone explain me where are gnome settings stored in 16.04 vs older versions? some tools that used to work in older releases, i.e. dconf-editor and "System Settings" that you could install from "Software" app, appear to read and write settings in the wrong place, i assume the old one.
[09:58] <nikolam> my problem with smb was malconfigured /etc/smb.conf Recreating it fixed the issue with SMB access
[09:59] <lotus|NUC> !tab | nikolam
[10:00] <nikolam> yes sorry, it is /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:05] <rpifan> my ubuntu install is currently using forcedeth but that isnt allowing it to connect properly
[10:06] <Greyztar> man find: "Warnings: Don't forget that the find command line is evaluated as an expression, so putting -delete first will make find try to delete everything below the starting points you specified" Regards Yoda
[10:16] <ylel9> xrefresh
[10:17] <ylel9> for whatis is
[10:17] <ylel9> for what is it xrefresh in terminal
[10:17] <Butterfly^> type in terminal:  man xrefresh
[10:18] <Butterfly^> i'm guessing that answers your question ylel9
[10:31] <arunkumar413> what is the best driver for this audio device:  Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01)
[10:31] <Butterfly^> probably the most recent driver you can find
[10:32] <Butterfly^> (if you can even find multiple drivers)
[10:32] <Butterfly^> i don't know that card though and am not an expert on audio drivers at all
[10:33] <Ben64> probably the driver ubuntu chooses
[10:34] <grr12314> snd_hda_intel
[10:35] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:40] <noob_on_rails> Hey all! I'm trying to upgrade my 16.04 to 18, but i can't even run a sudo apt-get update, here's the log: https://pastebin.com/ZwKd5tRK , any ideas?
[10:41] <Butterfly^> seems like you got quite some duplicates
[10:43] <hateball> noob_on_rails: bunch of broken PPAs by the looks of it
[10:43] <BluesKaj> ppas should be removed before upgrading to a new OS anyway
[10:43] <Butterfly^> ^
[10:44] <hashrack> noob_on_rails, disable the ppa's and try again
[10:44] <noob_on_rails> oh ok
[10:44] <noob_on_rails> from the software updater?
[10:44] <chrfle> Hello, I seem be having problems running my FTDI usb2serial at 5250000 speed. Can anyone recommend a tool? Both microcom and cu complains about the speed.
[10:45] <hashrack> from software and updates
[10:45] <noob_on_rails> ok so i untick everyline with ppa init
[10:45] <noob_on_rails> or just everything?
[10:45] <paranoidi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia - step 1 - "Usually you will see a notification and/or an icon in the top panel, reminding you that restricted drivers are available. "
[10:45] <paranoidi> and no instructions what to do if the notification does not show .. well done
[10:45] <hashrack> uncheck all, except canonical
[10:45] <noob_on_rails> ok
[10:45] <BluesKaj> noob_on_rails, /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[10:47] <noob_on_rails> BluesKaj: u want me to ls that for u ?
[10:47] <BluesKaj> noob_on_rails, no just remove the ppas there
[10:48] <noob_on_rails> oh ok
[10:48] <hashrack> paranoidi: open "software & updates" then go to "additional drivers" tab
[10:48] <geirha> or rename them
[10:48] <paranoidi> hashrack: thanks, I was there but it was empty .. maybe apt update resolved that
[10:49] <paranoidi> I did make sure to enable all third party stuff during installation though, would have expected it to work out of the box
[10:49] <geirha> Then they must all be in the main file, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:51] <geirha> the chance of breakage with packages still installed from ppas is great though. The safer route is to use ppapurge on each ppa
[10:51] <geirha> !info ppa-purge
[10:51] <BluesKaj> never had that issue aster removing ppsa
[10:52] <BluesKaj> aafter
[10:52]  * BluesKaj turns on more lights
[10:52] <geirha> depends on the quality of the ppa's packages. If they conflict with official packages in the new release, you're in trouble
[10:53] <noob_on_rails> :p i didn't delete, just unticked them
[10:53] <noob_on_rails> updates are downloading
[10:53] <noob_on_rails> i hope nothing too serious breaks :D
[10:56] <mancman3> Just take regular backups especially before doing any upgrades or anything major.
[10:56] <hashrack> paranoidi: install 'inxi' and 'pastebinit' then run the command:  inxi -G | pastebinit
[10:56] <hashrack> paranoidi: then share the link here
[10:57] <mancman3> Does inxi need installing
[10:57] <noob_on_rails> mancman3: you're correct but i need 2 lifetimes to do everything by the book :D
[10:57] <hashrack> mancman3: its installed by default on other distro but not in ubuntu
[10:57] <hashrack> mancman3: or at least not on ubuntu gnome
[11:01] <paranoidi> hashrack: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8MPNFnXS9q/ .. enjoy the ansi codes ;D
[11:01] <paranoidi> well it's now running propietary drivers and much smoother, thanks for the tip to check that tab again
[11:02] <hashrack> paranoidi: you're already running NVIDIA 390.77 driver based on inxi
[11:02] <hashrack> ok
[11:03] <paranoidi> yes, now, but the instructions failed at step 1 which is not great user experience ...
[11:03] <hashrack> i've never read that manual before... maybe it's not updated
[11:05] <hashrack> paranoidi: based on the screenshot on the link, its from ubuntu with unity. im not sure if that will popup on gnome or other de
[11:05] <paranoidi> 18.04 comes with gnome
[11:06] <paranoidi> (afaik)
[11:06] <paranoidi> desktop usage is looking pretty good these days, hoping valve will push gaming forward as well
[11:06] <hashrack> i have seen that popup before, on my laptop with nvidia on ubuntu 14.04 (with unity). haven't seen that for a very long time
[11:08] <hashrack> they are... with the new steam with proton... i have seen the youtube video from linus tech tips. running windows steam games on ubuntu
[11:09] <paranoidi> yeah, bunding wine (and some) in such polished way was really good move
[11:10] <hashrack> but i play steam games on windows on my laptop.  i use linux on this desktop, desktop not for games. its for surfing and backing up my windows docs and files
[11:11] <paranoidi> except steam installer does not launch on 18.04 ... oh well, I was planning to install win10 to another drive anyway :P
[11:12] <hashrack> it launched on mine. i even tried playing, but it was just a test. i play on my laptop
[11:14] <paranoidi> there's bunch of people saying same on comments, and someone managed to fix it via terminal .. but I think I will save myself some headache and put that win10 into a second drive for now
[11:19] <hashrack> paranoidi: watch out for the latest win 10. it has a very serious bug, deleting user files
[11:20] <blackflow> good thing we're all users of linux here.
[11:20] <paranoidi> yeah, I saw ... as long as it doesn't get into my NAS I'm safe :)
[11:20] <hashrack> yeah. dont give it read-write access on your other files, just to be safe
[11:21] <hashrack> blackflow: i use both
[11:21] <blackflow> hashrack: that was a slight hint about the offtopicity of windows 10 issues, in this chan :)
[11:23] <hashrack> blackflow: just a warning to paranoidi
[11:57] <woenx> Hi
[11:57] <woenx> is it possible to mount a network share, so the shared folder has the same permissions that the one on the server?
[11:57] <woenx> e.g, if the folder in the server is 750, the folder appears with 750 permissions on the client
[12:11] <grr12314> https://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.cifs "File And Directory Ownership And Permissions"
[12:11] <grr12314> apparently it should happen when both client and server are unix
[12:21] <KoolaidJunkie> OKay, so I have program X and program Z -- Program X is "writing" files to the folder, and Program Z is "reading" them.. but when Program X write a file, its assigned permission to itself, which prevents Program Z from reading it... How can I make it so that whatever file is written to that folder automatically has global permissions, so I don't have to keep manually chmod every file ??
[12:25] <grr12314> https://superuser.com/questions/277775/ensuring-new-files-in-a-directory-belong-to-the-group is one way
[12:26] <gpunk>  #linux is another way
[12:41] <_KaszpiR_> hm looks like Ubuntu 18.04 does not add $HOME/.local/bin to path?
[12:42] <_KaszpiR_> or was it an issue of missing hash -r ....
[12:43] <cognition> Hi, if I do dpkg --add-architecture i386 followed by apt-get update will it install i386 versions of all packages as well and will I continue to use the 64 bit packages as well?
[12:45] <blackflow> cognition: nope. 32-bit pkgs will only be pulled in as explicit installations or dependencies.
[13:06] <jeromelanteri> hi, how to config locales for LC_CTYPE to be en_US.UTF-8 and the other different ?
[13:06] <jeromelanteri> export doesn't works...
[13:06] <jeromelanteri> ubuntu-18.04
[13:12] <grr12314> define "doesn't work". maybe set LC_ALL="" as it overrides the others
[13:13] <jeromelanteri> grr12314, if i try: "export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8"
[13:13] <jeromelanteri> and test "locale"
[13:13] <jeromelanteri> then... no, LC_CTYPE is not en_US.UTF-8
[13:13] <jeromelanteri> (it should be)
[13:14] <grr12314> LC_ALL?
[13:14] <jeromelanteri> LC_ALL is define, does it need to be undefined ? what do you mean please ?
[13:15] <grr12314> it overrides the others
[13:15] <jeromelanteri> oh OK, i just do export LC_ALL="" and yes... i understand now
[13:15] <jeromelanteri> grr12314, thank you
[13:20] <geirha> use LANG to set the default one
[13:27] <jeromelanteri> geirha, define "the default one" please.
[13:28] <geirha> e.g. if you don't specify LC_NUMERIC, it will use LANG as LC_NUMERIC
[13:33] <jeromelanteri> geirha, and only if you not define an env variable related to language it will set it, correct ?
[13:33] <jeromelanteri> geirha, thank you
[13:35] <geirha> more like, if an application wants to print a number using locale, it will first see if LC_ALL is set, and use that. If not, it will try LC_NUMERIC. If not, it will use LANG. If not, default to C locale
[13:35] <R13ose> Hi
[13:36] <R13ose> Hi EoflaOE
[13:40] <barnex> hello, I'm trying to compile libpcsc-lite 1.8.23 on bionic. It claims I have no libsystemd installed, even though I do have the package. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nwpxTmNdCC/
[13:41] <ioria> !info libsystemd-dev
[13:42] <barnex> ioria: ii  libsystemd-dev:amd64                  237-3ubuntu10.3                   amd64        systemd utility library - development files
[13:42] <barnex> I think that means it's installed.
[13:42] <ioria> yep
[13:43] <ioria> barnex, keep in mind that libpcsc-lite it's not an ubuntu pkg
[13:43] <barnex> I am aware
[13:43] <ioria> wait
[13:43] <barnex> but I do think that the log I pasted is wrong anyway
[13:43] <ioria> !info libpcsclite1
[13:44] <barnex> oh wow
[13:47] <barnex> ok, I think that works for my case; thank you.
[13:47] <ioria> ok
[14:23] <IT_Rando> So does anyone know of a way to prevent all desktop applications from running except for a whitelist?
[14:26] <vita_cell> hi, can someone help me with Ubuntu18?
[14:28] <lotus|NUC> !ask | vita_cell
[14:30] <vita_cell> When I playing a game, and touch volume controls (mute, volume up, volume down), notification popups appears, but when popups is being showed, the game's full screen makes a bit smaller at the same time showing Ubuntu's panel and dock (showing their spaces, but not drawing them), when notification volume popup hides, full screen restores
[14:37] <nicomachus> vita_cell: I get that same behavior. It goes away as soon as you stop changing the volume, right?
[14:44] <pyler> I'm considering installing JDK/JRE on Ubuntu. Are there any security issues with Java which I should consider before installing it?
[14:47] <lotus|NUC> !java | pyler
[14:48] <lotus|NUC> pyler: this one more up to date, but involves external ppa's too https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-java-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[14:49] <lotus|NUC> pyler: adding external ppa's (could) be a potential security risk
[14:49] <pyler> spoken too soon totus|NUC
[14:50] <pyler> had just finished running add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[14:50] <pyler> should I remove it?
[14:50] <lotus|NUC> pyler: depends what you are going to do/want
[14:51] <pyler> I just want to use MPLAB IDE which requires a JRE to be installed
[14:51] <lotus|NUC> pyler: does it mention wich java version it needs?
[14:52] <pyler> 8
[14:52] <lotus|NUC> pyler: then try openjdk-8-jdk from the ubuntu repo first
[14:55] <pyler> OK
 YES; and it is really fckng annoying
[15:03] <vita_cell> I can not find someone with same problem in internet, have no idea how to fix that bug
[15:23] <vita_cell> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1796915
[15:24] <lotus|NUC> vita_cell: thank you for taking your time to file a bug
[15:24] <lotus|NUC> vita_cell: nicomachus could you affect yourself too please ^
[15:37] <lotus|NUC> vita_cell: might be worth catching some games at #gamingonlinux too for your bug, to spedup solving
[15:38] <lotus|NUC> vita_cell: speedup/gamers
[15:52] <nicomachus> lotus|NUC: I guess he left. whoops.
[15:52] <nicomachus> idk if I would call that an xorg bug though
[15:53] <JFox762> All of a sudden, my Hibernate mode stopped working
[15:54] <JFox762> Onetime, while booting, I noticed some sort of cli output prior to booting into Ubuntu that seemed unusual
[15:54] <JFox762> how do I review that?
[15:54] <JFox762> It was a few boot cycles ago
[15:55] <JFox762> When I hibernate, and resume... it just loses the state of the drive
[16:32] <Poirotti> have you just updated your system?
[16:35] <Poirotti> oh, seems like i was late
[16:36] <vita_cell> how to run a program with graphical sudo? like "$ gksu nautilus"?
[16:36] <vita_cell> Ubuntu18
[16:37] <BluesKaj> nautilus should have a root option in "places"
[16:38] <vita_cell> yeah, but what program for sudo with GUI should I use?
[16:38] <blackflow> vita_cell: use gvfs urls.    nautilus admin://
[16:39] <blackflow> alternatively, there's pkexec to run things within polkit rules
[16:55] <pyler> I guys I was wondering if you could help me with this problem
[16:56] <pyler> I upgraded from Ubuntu 16.04 to ubuntu 18.04
[16:57] <blackflow> !details | pyler
[16:57] <pyler> for somereason I can remove packages that I had in 16.04
[16:58] <pyler> for example when I try 'sudo apt-get remove firefox'
[16:58] <pyler> Package 'firefox' is not installed, so not removed
[16:59] <pyler> and when I install firefox, i end up having to copies
[16:59] <blackflow> pyler: install how?
[16:59] <Triffid_Hunter> pyler: dpkg -S `which firefox`
[16:59] <compdoc> pyler, is one installed by Snap?
[17:00] <blackflow> pyler: note there is a snap of firefox, so if you're using the software center, you're probably installing the snap, and it's easy to confuse your system and yourself like that.
[17:00] <pyler> not sure
[17:00] <blackflow> pyler: `snap list`
[17:02] <pyler> @blackflow ok i see firefox is installed as a span
[17:03] <blackflow> pyler: so welcome to bionic's world of snaps. be careful though because the software center is NOT immediately clear on what you're installing and from whom. snaps are user-submitted and they can contain anything.
[17:04] <blackflow> I would recommend you to not use the software center at all but use apt and snap commands separately, consciously.
[17:05] <pyler> Is it better to stick with apt?
[17:05] <Triffid_Hunter> yes
[17:05] <blackflow> pyler: yes, use snaps only if you specfically need a snap'd package, or if there's no alternative. always check the vendor and decide whether you trust them.
[17:07] <pyler> Thanks @blackflow
[17:09] <ioria> pyler, in alternative remove the software-center snap support  (gnome-software-plugin-snap
[17:09] <ioria> )
[17:23] <Scraggy> Hi, I am trying to use apt, but I get the following error: E: Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_bionic_InRelease (1).  How can I correct this?
[17:29] <ioria> Scraggy, probably a corruption or a  sources.list issue ...
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> Scraggy: If you have enabled and PPA repos, disable them then try "sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt clean all  && sudo apt update"
[17:38] <bjonnh> Hi, I removed two of my drives from LVM and am now using ZFS instead
[17:39] <bjonnh> it seems that I still have residual LVM metadata somewhere
[17:39] <bjonnh> as I see my old drive configuration when running pvs
[17:39] <bjonnh> how do I get rid of that (it makes a lot of warnings when grub updates)
[17:41] <bjonnh> I'm afraid running lvremove would kill my zfs
[17:45] <blackflow> bjonnh: lvremove/pvremove is the only way I know to clear out metadata. Welp, back up your zfs, its so easy with snapshots and send|recv and try it.
[17:45] <pragmaticenigma> never fear losing data.... you should always have a back up BEFORE doing any harddrive activity
[17:47] <bjonnh> I have backups
[17:47] <bjonnh> I don't fear loosing data, I fear loosing time
[17:47] <blackflow> bjonnh: rule of thumb, if zfs and lvm were using the same sectors for their metadata, zfs would overwrite lvm's, being installed last.
[17:48] <bjonnh> doesn't seem it did
[17:48] <bjonnh> I've been using that zfs array for a while now
[17:48] <blackflow> then they aren't sharing, or lvm wouldn't see it
[17:49] <blackflow> zfs has a backup copy in two places tho'. middle and end of each vdev member, if I'm not mistaken.
[17:49] <bjonnh> ok
[17:49] <bjonnh> turns out (from discussion on #lvm)
[17:49] <bjonnh> that residual data was not on drive but in the lvmetad daemon
[17:49] <blackflow> ah
[17:52] <vita_cell> is here some way to remove screen spawn when the screen turns off in Ubuntu18?
[17:53] <vita_cell> *screen swap
[17:54] <xebra> hi, is there a way to run a program (only once, when needed) with a custom apparmor profile? aa-exec wants a profile name, apparently, not a file name.
[18:57] <TheWild> hello
[19:13] <TheWild> TJ-: Figured out that micrphone works - my laptop probably has no builtin microphone (hmmm?) and only works through headphone port (that mixed jack).
[19:15] <TheWild> I dug my parents' old unused netbook and ran Ubuntu on it - same problem with camera. lshw: http://termbin.com/3iu3  lsusb: http://termbin.com/ffjq  lspci: http://termbin.com/pdkj
[19:17] <TJ-> TheWild: you're not doing well are you!?
[19:20] <TheWild> ugh, hard to disagree
[19:20] <TJ-> TheWild: I have a potential soltion for your E6450 - did you realise the installed BIOS/firmware is A06. from 2013, and the latest available is A21 from this year? I'd highly recommend you upgrade that. I read through the release notes of all the versions in between and there are a LOT of fixes for USB problems on that model
[19:22] <Xat`> hello guys, I have a 16.04 server and have a init script for a specific service. When I start the service manually with /etc/init.d/sonar start , it starts well . After I had added service at boot with update-rc.d command, if I reboot, the service does not start automatically. And, again, if I do /etc/init.d/sonar start manually, it starts well ..
[19:22] <TJ-> As for you Acer AO722, could be a disconnection issue. According to this (Windows OS) thread reporting the camera missing it turns out the user found the camera's USB connector had disconnected internally! http://www.tomsguide.com/forum/88226-35-acer-aspire-ao722-webcam-problems
[19:22] <TheWild> the lshw, lsusb and lspci I gave you while ago were for netbook (Acer Aspire something), not that Dell.
[19:26] <TheWild> well... I think I'll send my laptop in for a warranty repair.
[19:26] <TheWild> thank you for all the help TJ-.
[19:27] <TJ-> TheWild: also, I'm reading on AskUbuntu that some models have a hot-key combo to enable/disable the camera. Do you see any icons on the Fx keys that look vaguely like a camera?
[19:28] <TheWild> I've looked at dell but it doesn't have any key resembling camera... or could it not be marked?
[19:28] <TJ-> TheWild: yes, I know these termbins are for the Acer One 722 :) I had forgotten the other day to tell you about the BIOS/firmware A21 being available for the E6450 - I'd bet that may well sort things out
[19:29] <TJ-> TheWild: not the Dell - marked key is on some Acer netbooks (because they were designed to be very low power, they enabled powering off many devices)
[19:30] <TheWild> Acer has some keys marked but none of them resembles camera.
[19:30] <TJ-> TheWild: E6450 BIOS: https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/product-support/product/latitude-e6540-laptop/drivers
[19:31] <TJ-> TheWild: Select "BIOS" in the Operating System combo list box
[19:32] <TJ-> TheWild: the AO722 camera is USB ID 04f2:b1d8. you can see a summary of the devices here: https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?probe=24dea8e5d8
[19:40] <TJ-> TheWild: Reading the AO722 service manual it says the camera is optional and is only fitted in 'certain models' without saying how to tell :)
[19:44] <ylel9> #discous-ubuntu
[19:48] <TheWild> lol, don't tell me this one is fake camera
[19:48] <Xat`> ok nevermind, I switched from init to systemd directly
[19:49] <TheWild> I think it was used at least once in the past, but can't tell for sure.
[19:50] <TJ-> TheWild: page 75 of the AO722 service manual shows how to replace the camera board - it looks relatively easy (in the preceeding pages) to pop the LCD cover off to check there is a camera fitted. I've put the service manual on my web-site for you: http://iam.tj/projects/misc/Acer%20Aspire%20One%20AO722%20Service%20Manual.pdf
[19:51] <TJ-> TheWild: if you pop the cover and the board is there, then as per that forum post, check the connector is firmly in place and consider hot-gluing it permanently!
[20:00] <TheWild> ouch, breaking nails on this one
[20:00] <TJ-> TheWild: :) the things we do :D
[20:00] <TJ-> TheWild: you need a 'spudger'
[20:01] <TheWild> I'll better check it with the manual because although the camera doesn't seem to fake (it has PCB!), but there are no obvious connection.
[20:02] <TJ-> TheWild: you're saying you've found the camera board on the AO722?
[20:02] <TJ-> TheWild: there should be a wire plugged into the connector
[20:03] <TJ-> TheWild: outlined in red on page 65 of the PDF, bottom-right photo
[20:03] <TheWild> indeed there is connector, although it's black as the rest of the case, not white, so I couldn't spot it in the first place.
[20:05] <TJ-> TheWild: if that end is firmly connected it might be worth checking that the other end of the cable is firmly connected to the motherboard. If it still doesn't show up to the software, check BIOS setup doesn't have a 'disable camera' option set
[20:11] <TheWild> well, I'll do that, someday. I brought Acer because I thought it will solve somewhat the mystery of Dell's camera. If Acer's camera would work then does Ubuntu know what to do with it out of the box? How it is listed? IMHO unlikely both computers have their cameras broken.
[20:11] <TheWild> I have bad experiences opening the laptops cases.
[20:14] <TJ-> TheWild: according to the info I've found the AO722 camera is UVC and therefore supported by the kernel's USB Video Class driver
[20:15] <TJ-> TheWild: as I said the other day, regardless of drivers, on USB if the device is connected and powered correctly it will ALWAYS appear on the USB, and be reported by 'lsusb' - even if a driver were not available to actually operate it
[20:15] <TheWild> I'll remember that
[20:15] <TheWild> It's late already where I live, let's have fun with software stuff now.
[20:16] <TheWild> thank you very much TJ-, you are a good company.
[20:16] <TJ-> TheWild: let us know if/when you finally get these sorted out !
[20:16] <TheWild> sure
[20:25] <oldgregg> hi there 1000+ internet connections how are you today?
[20:56] <kinghat> if i make a new user is it easy to remove all traces of that user?
[20:59] <TJ-> kinghat: well, removing the user and their home directory is relatively easy. Removing files owned by the UID/GID in other parts of the file-system is doable using 'find', but there is likely going to be a track record in the audit/auth logs
[21:13] <lolcat-007> is there any other app similar like devede to create dvd
[21:13] <lolcat-007> ?
[21:15] <Anthaas> Hi - I am trying to add the wifi drivers for my laptop, but am getting an error with modprobe: required key not available.
[21:18] <Anthaas> Secure boot, ugh...
[21:24] <kinghat> why would it be that when i login to a different user i cant view mounted drives or get into the media folder?
[21:24] <TJ-> Anthaas: yes; either install your own MOK or disable Secure Boot
[21:25] <TJ-> kinghat: the groups your 'other' user is a member of probably. The initial user of an install is given extra (sudo) and other memberships
[21:25] <TJ-> kinghat: try comparing the output of "groups $USER" with "groups <your-original-user>"
[21:26] <kinghat> kinghat : kinghat adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[21:27] <kinghat> tester1 : tester1 sudo
[21:27] <kinghat> i set it to give admin privs when i created the test account.
[21:28] <TJ-> kinghat: now check what the ownership of the media directory is: "ls -la /media/*"
[21:29] <kinghat> TJ-: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/26f8b7ec/
[21:32] <TJ-> kinghat:  "drwxr-x---+  5 root    root    4096 Oct  9  2018 ." shows only root can access/traverse /media/ *but* that little "+" sign indicates there are ACLs (Access Control Lists) attached too. use "getfacl /media" to see who else has access rights
[21:34] <kinghat> TJ-: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e940afcd/
[21:39] <TJ-> kinghat: that looks correct for 'others' (o) to read /media/ itself, but then your've got the sub-dirs which have different ownerships that don't match for your tester1 account I guess. Which specific sub-dir are you having problems with? "Staging" and "Windows10" don't look to be available to tester1
[21:40] <kinghat> well if i try to open the /media dir as tester1 i cant and then obv everything under that.
[21:42] <TJ-> kinghat: that is strange since the ACLs show  'others' have read/traverse rights
[21:42] <TJ-> kinghat: is there anything in the logs? /var/log/auth.log or possibly /var/log/syslog
[21:47] <kinghat> says i cant access those either
[21:47] <kinghat> TJ-: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/JLuPJCOL/Screenshot_20181009_164640.png
[21:48] <kinghat> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/GIx98oWt/Screenshot_20181009_164526.png
[21:48] <TJ-> kinghat: as tester1 that doesn't surprise me. you need root privileges via sudo or pkexec
[21:49] <kinghat> for media to work or just to view the logs?
[21:50] <kinghat> i mean cant i just give tester1 everything that kinghat has? and then should work?
[21:50] <johnnyfive> Is there a way to apply the settings in /etc/default/locale to my current session w/o rebooting?
[22:00] <tieinv> wildmanne39:  hi
[22:01] <niekniek> hello! my ubuntu machine won't hibernate when running pm-hibernate.
[22:02] <niekniek> I looked at /var/log/syslog etc but no errors it seems
[22:03] <niekniek> Google gave me a lot of fixes for issues with waking up, but my machine won't sleep at all..
[22:03] <kinghat> TJ-: stuck here after trying to log out of the tester1 session. any way to not kill the kinghat session?
[22:04] <kinghat> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/RSaXUa2r/irccloudcapture923940837019008679.jpg
[22:04] <niekniek> when running pm-hibernate as root the terminal prompt will return after about 2 seconds
[22:07] <niekniek> s2disk: Could not use the resume device (try swapon -a). Reason: No such device
[22:08] <CoJaBo> niekniek: ..do you have a swap device?
[22:08] <niekniek> swapon --show gives /swapfile file  16G   0B   -2
[22:08] <niekniek> but I did change the original file for a larger one
[22:10] <Bashing-om> niekniek: And now do the UUIDs match ? ' cat /etc/fstab ' -> ' sudo blkid ' ?
[22:11] <niekniek> ah, got it working! dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium uswsusp
[22:12] <niekniek> but now it doesn't resume... that's because it's an iMac with a broken videocard... I need nomodeset
[22:12] <niekniek> I tried to add it to /etc/default/grub and did an update-grub, but it doesn't seem to work
[22:13] <niekniek> when editing it by hand at boottime it does work
[22:15] <niekniek> when pushing e the value is not in there
[22:16] <Bashing-om> niekniek: editing the kernel boot line in grub is a one time booting thing . Show us in a pastie your grub file .
[22:16] <niekniek> you mean /etc/default/grub?
[22:17] <Bashing-om> niekniek: Yes . /etc/default/grub . Let's then know what you edited - correctly .
[22:17] <niekniek> https://pastebin.com/uf2NYXCJ
[22:18] <kinghat> ok TJ-, if i go to the mounts i can browse them fine after putting tester1 in all the same groups as kinghat. though i still can view /media directly, just everything under it if i manually go to their respective dirs.
[22:20] <kinghat> lol now i cant view all those mounts via kinghat. wtf
[22:20] <Bashing-om> niekniek: Looks valod to me . what shows ' cat /proc/cmdline ' ?
[22:20] <Bashing-om> valid*
[22:21] <niekniek> Bashing-om: I also found about this one... it was a pebkac... I changed GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, had to do GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX
[22:21] <niekniek> excuse me for waisting text in the channel
[22:21] <Bashing-om> niekniek: L) .. makeing good progress .
[22:22] <niekniek> now I only have to figure out why resuming doesn't work, it boots normally
[22:22] <Bashing-om> niekniek: encryped file system ?
[22:22] <niekniek> nope
[22:23] <niekniek> PM: Swap header not found!
[22:25] <niekniek> no, that was an old log entry
[22:26] <eltese> Hi! I am trying to make a bootable usb from within Ubuntu, but it is another linux distro im trying to create a live cd of. I tried downloading etcher but ubuntu will not let me run it
[22:27] <Bashing-om> al2o3-cr: "dd" can do that .
[22:27] <niekniek> eltese: what's the error?
[22:28] <niekniek> pm-suspend works fine btw...
[22:28] <Bashing-om> eltese: Fat fingered! ^ al2o3-cr sorry 'bout the bad hilight :(
[22:28] <eltese> niekniek: Right now, absolutely nothing happens when I run the appimage
[22:28] <eltese> Bashing-om: ah, np
[22:29] <niekniek> eltese: how did you install? https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/05/how-to-install-etcher-on-ubuntu
[22:30] <eltese> Bashing-om: I saw a google entry about dd but I was not eager to mess about with that
[22:30] <eltese> might have to do it though I guess =)
[22:30] <Bashing-om> eltese: Know the target and where the source is located  .. and for instance ' sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M && sync ' .
[22:35] <eltese> Bashing-om: So, in this case the file is in Dowloads folder. Doing fdisk -l shows the device  to be sdc. So the command would just be '  sudo dd if=/Downloads/Manjaro.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=4m && sync ' ? Can I just autocomplete the folders name and .iso or do I need to manually look that up?
[22:37] <TJ-> eltese: "$HOME/Downloads/Manjaro.iso" not "/Downloads/Manjaro.iso", surely ? The latter is in the root directory.
[22:38] <Bashing-om> TJ-: eltese :) .. Glad TJ- is watching over us .
[22:41] <eltese> Thanks to both of you :) /home/myhostname/downloads was the correct pathway and I feel like a complete airhead for not thinking about that
[22:41] <eltese> but I do appreciate the help
[22:42] <Bashing-om> eltese: Why we are here .. soon you too can tell others how .
[22:52] <eelstrebor> i tried to upgrade bionic to openssl 1.1.1 but it failed - i can't find a solution to the error messages when running openssl to create certs so i'm hoping someone here will have a solution since web searches don't return results about my problem
[22:54] <Bashing-om> !info openssl | eelstrebor
[22:55] <hggdh> eelstrebor: 1.1.1 is not in the repositories...
[22:55] <eelstrebor> that doesn't help solve my problem - i'm hoping that i won't have to do a fresh install
[22:55] <eelstrebor> openssl: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.1: version `OPENSSL_1_1_1' not found (required by openssl)
[22:56] <blackflow> $1M question: how did you upgrade it to something that's not in the repositories.
[22:56] <hggdh> eelstrebor: this is the point. You installed something outside of the repositories, and this something has dependencies all around
[22:58] <eelstrebor> yep, i used a tarball but i thought that ./configure looked to make sure that the dependencies are present
[22:58] <blackflow> the fix can be something as simple as    apt install --reinstall openssl
[22:58]  * eelstrebor likes to have the latest and greatest despite the risks
[22:58] <blackflow> I hope the lessons are learned. do not deviate from pre-packaged applications unless you know what you're doing ;)
[22:58] <blackflow> ubuntu is not for you then
[22:58] <blackflow> !latest
[22:58] <hggdh> eelstrebor: specifically, openssl depends on libssl (at the same version); also, there is a TRUCKLOAD of packages that depend on openssl, and they may, or may not, work after you move to 1.1.1
[23:00] <eelstrebor> i have found that upgrading via tarball usually doesn't mess up an installation - oh well, i'll try a re-install of openssl - if that doesn't fix it then i'll re-install the entire os
[23:02] <blackflow> installing random software from tarballs is not supported here tho. you're on your own if something else breaks.
[23:02] <eelstrebor> i was having trouble creating certs with the ubuntu package but for some reason it didn't work so that's when i tried to do the upgrade
[23:04] <blackflow> eelstrebor: what certs?
[23:05] <hggdh> eelstrebor: the things you have to keep in mind when upgrading versions via source: (1) is the new version API (and ABI) compatible? (2) which other packages you have depend on this new version? (3) do any of the dependant packages fix the dependency version?
[23:08] <eelstrebor> blackflow, certs for openvpn - need to generate new ones due to security issues
[23:09] <eelstrebor> anyway, looks like i got my problem fixed (until the next time)
[23:09] <eelstrebor> generating a 4096 bit diffie-hellman key right now
[23:10] <eelstrebor> got to go help my kid with his math
[23:18] <m0rd3cai> I hope someone here can help me. Ive got a Ubuntu 16.04 VM running XFCE. VM has worked fine until a few days ago, all icons from the desktop, all menu bars have disappeared. I have a Bash icon (link doesnt work) but cannot get a terminal with CTRL - ALT - T. I normally SSH in but SSH seems to have crashed, connections refused. The drive this VM is on is encrypted so im pretty scared to do a hard reboot,
[23:18] <m0rd3cai> i have a feeling that will break everything. Any ideas??
[23:19] <m0rd3cai> this VM runs an Apache server and that connection is still working just fine.
[23:21] <blackflow> m0rd3cai: well there's not much you can do if you can't get the term, can't ssh in, connections refused.  how did you connect to it to see the desktop and missing icons? virtual console?
[23:22] <m0rd3cai> blackflow: thats correct. from the VM console. I just tried to log in to a "guest session" and that seems to have the correct desktop settings.
[23:23] <blackflow> you reall need the terminal and look around the logs/journal wth happened.
[23:25] <m0rd3cai> blackflow: i know, ive tried everything. guest session let me reboot so hopefully ssh comes back up.
[23:26] <m0rd3cai> do you know any other key combos to bring up terminal? the bash icon links to "gnome-terminal" is there another term I can try to run?
[23:28] <blackflow> m0rd3cai: alt-F2   and then type xfce4-terminal    ?
[23:29] <blackflow> m0rd3cai: or gnome-terminal  or xterm    there should be at least xterm installed
[23:31] <m0rd3cai> blackflow: error launching application.
[23:32] <blackflow> m0rd3cai: which one?
[23:37] <m0rd3cai> gnome-terminal and xterm also.
[23:38] <blackflow> m0rd3cai: all that sounds like some massive issues there. maybe reboot will solve it, maybe not. you really need some kind of access to the console of terminal. reboot, and if ssh doesn't come up, reboot again but in grub force multiuser.target, and not graphical, so you canlog into text console.
[23:39] <m0rd3cai> jesus i got a shell finally through guest session but cant sudo or SU. fuck.
[23:39] <blackflow> language...
[23:39] <m0rd3cai> its a production server so it will be a few more hours before "maintenance time".\
[23:39] <m0rd3cai> my bad. just really frustrated. :-/
[23:40] <blackflow> but you can journalctl though. look into it.
[23:40] <blackflow> journalctl -n 100 -p warning..crit
[23:42] <Kon-> Is there an easy way to tell if a user is running in UEFI/GPT vs UEFI/MBR Legacy mode?
[23:42] <m0rd3cai> ill have to do that after reboot. insufficient perm.
[23:47] <blackflow> Kon-: there's no UEFI/MBR legacy mode. either it's EFI, or legacy (bios) boot. also EFI requires GPT. So, to check whether you've booted in EFI or legacy mode, grep dmesg for efi :)
[23:48] <Kon-> blackflow: I don't believe that's correct. In my own case, I installed Ubuntu in UEFI mode but use GRUB in MBR fashion and have no EFI system partition
[23:49] <blackflow> Kon-: you may've booted into liveusb via EFI, but if you installed ubuntu on mbr and don't have efi system partition, then you're not booting to it via efi.
[23:57] <Kon-> Okay, you're talking about there only being "EFI" or "MBR" modes for Ubuntu/GRUB
[23:57] <Kon-> But I was trying to figure out if I can tell his BIOS setup based upon his partition table before he tries to install and messes things up
[23:59] <Kon-> I think I have it figured out. He's got a UEFI system but his existing OS is installed in MBR mode, because his boot partition is NTFS and not FAT32.