[07:11] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:40] <CrazyTux> can we install timeshift on Kubuntu? would you recommend it?
[09:16] <m_tadeu> hi...I'm having problems with my vpn...NM is not updating resolv.conf with the vpn dns
[10:17] <Captain_Haddock> Is it possible to have a dual monitor setup with one connected to my Nvidia 1030 and another to the onboard graphics?
[10:34] <hateball> Captain_Haddock: Not without some levels of pain, at least
[11:13] <ylel9> hello
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:49] <buttros_> Hello! I'm new to Kubuntu and I have a problem with Kmail...
[11:50] <buttros_> Whenever I delete a message in Kmail, it does not delete it but rather it archives it
[11:51] <buttros_> I'm talking about Kmail and Gmail account
[11:51] <buttros_> any suggestions?
[11:52] <ylel9> jamisnemo:
 Hey guys I am on Kubuntu 18.10. How can I get the new kde 5.14 installed? I see that I could do it using backports but I don't know how to do it.
 @griphook, Currently in a backports testing PPA. https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/backports-landing
 They are tesing packages, so should only be used on that basis.
[14:15] <BluesKaj> think I'll wait
 ok so its not stable?
 @griphook, it's a .0 plasma release. which means it will have 5 future bugfix releases. I would not say it is unstable for use, but it will have things that need fixing. i.e. new release = new bugs in most cases
 ok
 thank you
[15:49] <kinghat> ive played with it on neon. seems fine. only light testing though.
[15:49] <kinghat> how do we get to kubuntu cosmic already?
[16:23] <Captain_Haddock> hateball: Thanks.
[16:38] <BluesKaj> kinghat, here, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/HEADER.html
[16:50] <kinghat> BluesKaj: does that provide an upgrade path?
[16:50] <kinghat> 18.10 is just around the corner isnt it?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> kinghat, depends, which version are you running now ?
[16:54] <BluesKaj> that url is the daily image , not an upgrade unless you you have sepearate / and /home partitions
[16:55] <BluesKaj> it's the cosmic image/iso
[16:56] <BluesKaj> kinghat, if you are on 18,-04 bionic then update and upgrade your existing packages, then run sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:58] <BluesKaj> kinghat, the release date for cosmic is the 18th
[17:04] <kinghat> BluesKaj: tyvm. have you played with 18.10 yet? seems pretty solid?
[17:05] <BluesKaj> kinghat, i'm testing it as we speak...it's quite solid atm. depends on your HW and drivers etc of course.
[17:12] <kinghat> is `sudo do-release-upgrade -d` the same command that would be run if 18.10 were publicly released? or does 18.10 get pushed to everyone automatically?
[17:17] <genii> All releases become available to do-release-upgrade when they reach x.x.1 point release usually around 3 months after initial release, when the -d is no longer needed
[17:26] <genii> Sorry, LTS-LTS availability is what I meant there on the point release. Regular release to next regular release without -d is when the team adds it's details to the metarelease pages at https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/
[17:26]  * genii squints around for the coffeepot
[17:27] <kinghat> so you were correct though because 18 is LTS?
[17:27] <genii> Which is where do-release-upgrade looks for what's available
[17:27] <genii> 18.04 is, yes
[17:27] <kinghat> and that wouldnt work for 19?
[17:28] <genii> So it's default setting would be LTS-LTS
[17:29] <genii> Which can be changed in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[17:29] <kinghat> hmm maybe ill try the upgrade here in a bit. but to get plasma on 18.10 you still need backports?
[17:37] <genii> There usually isn't a backports for a fresh release right away
[17:37] <genii> It might exist, but empty usually
[17:38] <genii> Whatever was in the backports repo of your previous version will normally be in the regular repos of the most current version
[17:40] <kinghat> ya i think i put the backports on this 18.04 install
[17:41] <genii> Also if you have something like an older LTS, maybe 16.04, stuff will get backported to LTS before interim releases like 16.10.17.04.17.10
[17:41] <genii> ..sometime interim releases get no backports all, in fact
[17:41] <lolcat-007> why the battery widget on kubuntu disappear how can i solved that
[17:41] <lolcat-007> ?
[17:43] <kinghat> not sure if this is the backport im using: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu bionic InRelease
[17:44] <kinghat> genii: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bd0ca34a/
[17:45] <genii> kinghat: That's the official kubuntu one, yes
[17:52] <kinghat> are you talking about the backport i posted or the paste of me trying to run the upgrade to 18.10?
[18:08] <pedahzur> (Please feel free to point me to a forum post or other doc). With the new release of Plasma out, are there plans to publish packages for Bionic in the back ports?
[18:10] <kinghat> we've just been talking about that. unless you wernt here.
[18:10] <pedahzur> kinghat: Sorry, I was not.
[18:10] <pedahzur> Is this channel logged? I can go read scroll back.
[18:11] <kinghat> not sure.
[18:12] <kinghat> pedahzur: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/bbd69b02/
[18:14] <pedahzur> kinghat: Thank you!
[18:21] <acheronuk> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/
[18:22] <acheronuk> 5.14 will be in backports for 18.10. for 18.04 that may happen, but it depends on new Qt for 18.04, so is not a simple task
[18:24] <kinghat> is there a way to force 18.10 upgrade onto 18.04 atm?
[18:35] <acheronuk> kinghat: currently these instructions would work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CosmicUpgrades/Kubuntu
[18:41] <pedahzur> acheronuk: As I understand it, it would require backporting the new Qt to 18.04 as well?
[18:41] <acheronuk> pedahzur: yes
[18:41] <pedahzur> Oh...I'm sure that's loads of fun.
[18:42] <pedahzur> That's one dependency tree I really don't need to see today. :)
[19:11] <kinghat> tyvm acheronuk. what do the `-m` and `desktop` flags do over just using `-d`?
[19:13] <acheronuk> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/do-release-upgrade.8.html
[19:19] <kinghat> ty acheronuk
[19:34] <kinghat> acheronuk: is there anything special i will need to do to go from the beta to the public release or will it just get upgraded to public when its released?
[19:36] <acheronuk> kinghat: installing updates as they arrive will get you to the release version by release day.
[19:39] <kinghat> this just came up on the upgrade: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/yyM0gtzD/image.png
[19:42] <acheronuk> kinghat: have you changed your samba config from default?
[19:42] <genii> Select one or the other with tab key or arrow key, and hit enter
[19:43] <genii> ( is how you navigate these parts since they do not respond to the mouse )
[19:43] <acheronuk> if you are not sure, you could copy that .conf file somewhere to back it up, and let it configure automatically. then you have the old .conf if needed to restore some settings
[19:44] <kinghat> i added a share locally via fstab and have a .smbcredentials file but im not sure i change the default smb file locally though. i definitely did on a server hosting the share though.
[19:45] <kinghat> ok ill do a backup
[19:57] <kinghat> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/a9FQztDo/image.png
[20:01] <kinghat> i think its because i removed all the commented stuffs in a samba config file. i just kept the local one.
[20:03] <kinghat> hmm: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/OjURNn4C/image.png
[20:14] <kinghat> not sure about that one
[20:16] <pedahzur> kinghat: I've sometimes run in to that even with files I've never touched. I think either post-install or other utilities manually edit those files.  If it's something I know I've never touched, I usually ignore it.
[20:17] <kinghat> so install the package maintainers version?
[20:20] <kinghat> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/V7VFNmEJ/image.png
[20:22] <kinghat> i just selected the maintainers version
[20:39] <kinghat> guess i need some help setting up my shares again. not sure what happened.
[20:39] <kinghat> i have the mounted share in fstab still but it doesnt appear to be mounted.
[20:44] <kinghat> looks like the samba dir changed?
[20:51] <kinghat> having trouble even finding a samba dir through search.
[20:52] <kinghat> also, not sure why i cant just add sftp/ssh network place in dolphin because i can ssh in via terminal just fine.
[20:54] <kinghat> also not finding my .smbcredentials file
[21:02] <bprompt> kinghat:   run a find, no?   find / -name *smbcredentials;
[21:03] <kinghat> im just using the find in dolphin. isnt it the same thing?
[21:04] <bprompt> kinghat:    kinda, yes, only thing is that in find you can do wildcards, I don't think you can in Dolphin, you can in Kfind though
[21:05] <bprompt> kinghat:    but yes, also as suggested at #ubuntu, run a "dpkg -L PACKAGENAME" to see where everything was put at
[21:06] <kinghat> dpkg-query: package 'samba-common' is not installed
[21:07] <bprompt> kinghat:   run a "dpkg -l samba*"   for "anything with samba" installed, and check what's there
[21:08] <kinghat> bprompt: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/709fe2b6/
[21:10] <kinghat> does that mean it was removed or something?
[21:13] <bprompt> kinghat:   seems so
[21:14] <kinghat> just `sudo apt install samba`?
[21:20] <kinghat> bprompt: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xBo47Dtg/image.png
[21:25] <bprompt> hmmmm
[21:26] <bprompt> kinghat:   that's an error for sftp.... so you're trying to install it on a remote machine?
[21:27] <kinghat> sorry i was just trying to setup the sftp connection to my server locally in dolphins side panel.
[21:29] <bprompt> kinghat:   locally, you can always try installing it in the Software section, under System, is called.... dunno, in 16.04 Software Center
[21:54] <kinghat> acheronuk: should i enable the sources that were disabled on the upgrade? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9snA0aIg/image.png
[22:11] <kinghat> bprompt: looks like something was jacked with my ssh known hosts file. i commented out everything and then tried to log into everything again and that seemed to work.
[22:12] <bprompt> kinghat:   from an upgrade?
[22:12] <kinghat> ya. not sure why the upgrade messed with the keys. but the new keys generated are not very similar in structure either.
[22:13] <kinghat> ty for your help btw
[22:13] <bprompt> yw
[22:14] <kinghat> im still new to nix so when stuff like this happens i tend to freakout a bit because im not sure exactly how to work the problem.
[22:14] <kinghat> there really isnt a day where im not doing something new.
[22:16] <bprompt> yeah, one never knows with a newer version app, new distribution often times replaces it by some other or such