[02:40] <kinghat> so i upgraded from 18.04.1 to 18.10 and it disabled sources during the upgrade. should i enable the sources that were disabled? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9snA0aIg/image.png
[02:44] <valorie> I would check with each PPA to see if 1. you still need them and 2. if they have Cosmic packages
[02:44] <Bashing-om> kinghat: pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and we have a dissertation on how to know what can be re-enabled.
[02:44] <valorie> ppas are auto-disabled
[02:44] <valorie> always
[02:55] <kinghat> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f4e36ba8/
[02:59] <Bashing-om> kinghat: looking .
[03:00] <kinghat> is it odd that discover has some enabled but the software sources doesnt? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CQlkFxXy/image.png
[03:03] <Bashing-om> kinghat: Befor I look at that last .. in your browser open " http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu/ " and open "dists/". now you see that 18.10 is supported by this PPA and can be enabled.
[03:06] <Bashing-om> kinghat: The repos ( main, universe, multiverse ) are not the same as a PPA .
[03:07] <kinghat> can i remove all of the repos with bionic?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> kinghat: where as this PPA " http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu " is not supported .
[03:07] <kinghat> the *verse ones.
[03:08] <Bashing-om> kinghat: IF ya do remove the repos,, then no updates and no security fixes !  UN-Good .
[03:09] <kinghat> i mean the bionic ones. how would i get updates/security fixes from them if they are disabled?
[03:15] <Bashing-om> oh! .. sheeshh ,, did not have my thinkong cap on .. Yeah you are on cosmic ! ' lsb_relase -a ' to confirm .. and if cosmic then YES - disable bionic .
[03:16] <Bashing-om> lsb_release -a **
[03:17] <kinghat> `lsb_release -a` worked fine. yes its cosmic - 18.10. but i knew that.
[03:18] <kinghat> also they are already disabled as you can see in the last image i posted. im just asking if i can delete them?
[03:19] <Bashing-om> kinghat: :) .. but I did not know for sure .. I work terminal mostly rather than GUI and thus I can get lost in what we are looking at .
[03:19] <kinghat> np. its late here too. i didnt know if you were messing with me or not.
[03:20] <Bashing-om> kinghat: Delete bionic sources, yes .
[03:22] <Bashing-om> kinghat: I do not mess around, and try real hard not to mislead :P I got a reputation to protect :)
[03:23] <kinghat> hah np.
[03:23] <kinghat> here is everything thats left: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nPmc2Nih/image.png
[03:23] <Bashing-om> kinghat: looking.
[03:24] <Bashing-om> kinghat: Gimme a bit as I can not work easily from an image .
[03:26] <kinghat> Bashing-om: i ran `tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*` again and this was the output: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/ab478ce8/
[03:30] <Bashing-om> kinghat: On the origninal past of the sources.list/d .. there is obly that one that is stol good .. but I do not know about " http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode " . nor have I verified goggle chrome .
[03:31] <kinghat> they are legit
[03:34] <Bashing-om> kinghat: " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu" is good in cosmic too, if you still want it . But I find those kinds of aids can cause more trouble than they fix .
[03:37] <kinghat> i removed it and added it again. it not says cosmic properly.
[03:39] <Bashing-om> kinghat: It should read " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu cosmic main " .
[03:40] <kinghat> it does
[03:41] <kinghat> not sure why this says `http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu/ cosmic main` when there isnt a cosmic folder.
[03:43] <kinghat> says bionic in discover: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AH9rPWIx/image.png
[03:48] <Bashing-om> kinghat: I do not see "bionic" on any of the sources within "other software" (??).
[03:52] <Bashing-om> kinghat: The folder "apt/sources.list.d/" is to comtain all the 3rd party source list files .
[04:05] <kinghat> Bashing-om: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bn2fBIb6/image.png
[04:08] <Bashing-om> kinghat: Looks fair .. but I do not think backports repo is available for cosmic to this time. What results: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ?
[04:10] <kinghat> Bashing-om: i already removed that source and added it back: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/cosmic/
[04:11] <kinghat> there are sources still in sources.list.d that ive already removed. how do i get rid of those? it wont let me delete them
[04:13] <Bashing-om> kinghat: The GUI has no means to delete the entries - what it does is comment the entry (#) so it is not parsed . To completely remove takes the terminal .
[04:17] <kinghat> Bashing-om: `sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nameofrepo.list`?
[04:18] <valorie> oh dear, please don't do that
[04:19] <valorie> edit it if you feel you must, but do not simply remove it
[04:20] <kinghat> i cant remove them from that dir w/o doing that though..
[04:21] <valorie> if they are commented out they do no harm
[04:23] <kinghat> is it even bad to have a 3rd party source for an app of a different version of ubuntu?
[04:24] <kinghat> i mean the app will work on both of these versions.
[04:24] <valorie> no?
[04:24] <kinghat> it only matters for the OS sources, correct?
[04:24] <valorie> that's the point of flavors
[04:24] <valorie> lots of offerings
[04:24] <valorie> sometimes there are "warring libraries" but not often
[04:25] <valorie> you can even install multiple desktops, although that can get tangled
[04:25] <kinghat> i mean if i have a firefox ppa for bionic, its not a big deal that its still pointing at bionic when on cosmic is it?
[04:25] <kinghat> oh i see.
[04:25] <valorie> oh, different version number
[04:26] <valorie> if the ff ppa has no cosmic packages, you won't get updates until it does
[04:26] <valorie> if ever
[04:27] <kinghat> speaking of which, isnt there an up2date firefox repo for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[04:27] <kinghat> thats why i was using the security ppa for ff
[04:27] <valorie> why do you say ff is out of date?
[04:28] <valorie> !info firefox cosmic
[04:28] <Bashing-om> !info firefox cosmic
[04:30] <kinghat> if i was getting my ff through that ppa do i have to remove the source and remove ff and start fresh with the main ubuntu repo version?
[04:30] <valorie> no
[04:31] <kinghat> will the main repo start updating it?
[04:31] <valorie> yes
[04:31] <valorie> unless it was called something else
[04:32] <valorie> firefox is in main and you can see the version above
[04:32] <kinghat> how do i check they are the same name?
[04:33] <valorie> in your terminal, apt show firefox
[04:33] <valorie> or apt-cache policy firefox
[04:33] <kinghat> http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1a08259e/
[04:35] <valorie> so the same
[04:35] <valorie> you're fine without the ppa
[04:35] <kinghat> i can probably remove 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu/'
[04:35] <kinghat> k
[04:35] <valorie> could have been ahead for awhile
[04:35] <valorie> but it isn't now
[04:36] <valorie> I don't use ff much anymore now that falkon works everywhere for me
[04:38] <kinghat> everywhere?
[04:38] <valorie> so far, yes
[04:38] <valorie> all the sites I use
[04:38] <valorie> including my bank
[04:39] <kinghat> i use a lot of extensions and sync. and i really like chrome.
[04:39] <kinghat> i think brave is going to be nice once they catch up because its just chrome w/o all the google. but you get sync and all the extensions.
[04:39] <valorie> I do use chrome sometimes for the addons that are available only for it
[04:40] <valorie> I do genealogy and some of those addons are really handy
[04:40] <valorie> but that is rare
[04:40] <kinghat> ah. like the ancestry stuffs?
[04:41] <valorie> yes, there are addons for all the major sites - ancestry, familytreedna and 23andme
[04:42] <kinghat> ah
[04:42] <kinghat> ok thanks for the help valorie/Bashing-om. have a good one!
[04:42] <valorie> you too
[04:42] <valorie> glad your upgrade went well
[04:43] <kinghat> ty!
[04:43] <Bashing-om> kinghat: :)
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[20:15] <erle-> no release yet/
[20:15] <erle-> ?
[20:15] <erle-> oh, next week