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kinghat | so i upgraded from 18.04.1 to 18.10 and it disabled sources during the upgrade. should i enable the sources that were disabled? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9snA0aIg/image.png | 02:40 |
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valorie | I would check with each PPA to see if 1. you still need them and 2. if they have Cosmic packages | 02:44 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and we have a dissertation on how to know what can be re-enabled. | 02:44 |
valorie | ppas are auto-disabled | 02:44 |
valorie | always | 02:44 |
kinghat | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f4e36ba8/ | 02:55 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: looking . | 02:59 |
kinghat | is it odd that discover has some enabled but the software sources doesnt? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CQlkFxXy/image.png | 03:00 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: Befor I look at that last .. in your browser open " http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu/ " and open "dists/". now you see that 18.10 is supported by this PPA and can be enabled. | 03:03 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: The repos ( main, universe, multiverse ) are not the same as a PPA . | 03:06 |
kinghat | can i remove all of the repos with bionic? | 03:07 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: where as this PPA " http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu " is not supported . | 03:07 |
kinghat | the *verse ones. | 03:07 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: IF ya do remove the repos,, then no updates and no security fixes ! UN-Good . | 03:08 |
kinghat | i mean the bionic ones. how would i get updates/security fixes from them if they are disabled? | 03:09 |
Bashing-om | oh! .. sheeshh ,, did not have my thinkong cap on .. Yeah you are on cosmic ! ' lsb_relase -a ' to confirm .. and if cosmic then YES - disable bionic . | 03:15 |
Bashing-om | lsb_release -a ** | 03:16 |
kinghat | `lsb_release -a` worked fine. yes its cosmic - 18.10. but i knew that. | 03:17 |
kinghat | also they are already disabled as you can see in the last image i posted. im just asking if i can delete them? | 03:18 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: :) .. but I did not know for sure .. I work terminal mostly rather than GUI and thus I can get lost in what we are looking at . | 03:19 |
kinghat | np. its late here too. i didnt know if you were messing with me or not. | 03:19 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: Delete bionic sources, yes . | 03:20 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: I do not mess around, and try real hard not to mislead :P I got a reputation to protect :) | 03:22 |
kinghat | hah np. | 03:23 |
kinghat | here is everything thats left: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nPmc2Nih/image.png | 03:23 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: looking. | 03:23 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: Gimme a bit as I can not work easily from an image . | 03:24 |
kinghat | Bashing-om: i ran `tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*` again and this was the output: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/ab478ce8/ | 03:26 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: On the origninal past of the sources.list/d .. there is obly that one that is stol good .. but I do not know about " http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode " . nor have I verified goggle chrome . | 03:30 |
kinghat | they are legit | 03:31 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu" is good in cosmic too, if you still want it . But I find those kinds of aids can cause more trouble than they fix . | 03:34 |
kinghat | i removed it and added it again. it not says cosmic properly. | 03:37 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: It should read " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu cosmic main " . | 03:39 |
kinghat | it does | 03:40 |
kinghat | not sure why this says `http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu/ cosmic main` when there isnt a cosmic folder. | 03:41 |
kinghat | says bionic in discover: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AH9rPWIx/image.png | 03:43 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: I do not see "bionic" on any of the sources within "other software" (??). | 03:48 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: The folder "apt/sources.list.d/" is to comtain all the 3rd party source list files . | 03:52 |
kinghat | Bashing-om: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bn2fBIb6/image.png | 04:05 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: Looks fair .. but I do not think backports repo is available for cosmic to this time. What results: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ? | 04:08 |
kinghat | Bashing-om: i already removed that source and added it back: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/cosmic/ | 04:10 |
kinghat | there are sources still in sources.list.d that ive already removed. how do i get rid of those? it wont let me delete them | 04:11 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: The GUI has no means to delete the entries - what it does is comment the entry (#) so it is not parsed . To completely remove takes the terminal . | 04:13 |
kinghat | Bashing-om: `sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nameofrepo.list`? | 04:17 |
valorie | oh dear, please don't do that | 04:18 |
valorie | edit it if you feel you must, but do not simply remove it | 04:19 |
kinghat | i cant remove them from that dir w/o doing that though.. | 04:20 |
valorie | if they are commented out they do no harm | 04:21 |
kinghat | is it even bad to have a 3rd party source for an app of a different version of ubuntu? | 04:23 |
kinghat | i mean the app will work on both of these versions. | 04:24 |
valorie | no? | 04:24 |
kinghat | it only matters for the OS sources, correct? | 04:24 |
valorie | that's the point of flavors | 04:24 |
valorie | lots of offerings | 04:24 |
valorie | sometimes there are "warring libraries" but not often | 04:24 |
valorie | you can even install multiple desktops, although that can get tangled | 04:25 |
kinghat | i mean if i have a firefox ppa for bionic, its not a big deal that its still pointing at bionic when on cosmic is it? | 04:25 |
kinghat | oh i see. | 04:25 |
valorie | oh, different version number | 04:25 |
valorie | if the ff ppa has no cosmic packages, you won't get updates until it does | 04:26 |
valorie | if ever | 04:26 |
kinghat | speaking of which, isnt there an up2date firefox repo for ubuntu/kubuntu? | 04:27 |
kinghat | thats why i was using the security ppa for ff | 04:27 |
valorie | why do you say ff is out of date? | 04:27 |
valorie | !info firefox cosmic | 04:28 |
ubottu | firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 62.0.3+build1-0ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 45596 kB, installed size 172080 kB | 04:28 |
Bashing-om | !info firefox cosmic | 04:28 |
kinghat | if i was getting my ff through that ppa do i have to remove the source and remove ff and start fresh with the main ubuntu repo version? | 04:30 |
valorie | no | 04:30 |
kinghat | will the main repo start updating it? | 04:31 |
valorie | yes | 04:31 |
valorie | unless it was called something else | 04:31 |
valorie | firefox is in main and you can see the version above | 04:32 |
kinghat | how do i check they are the same name? | 04:32 |
valorie | in your terminal, apt show firefox | 04:33 |
valorie | or apt-cache policy firefox | 04:33 |
kinghat | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1a08259e/ | 04:33 |
valorie | so the same | 04:35 |
valorie | you're fine without the ppa | 04:35 |
kinghat | i can probably remove 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu/' | 04:35 |
kinghat | k | 04:35 |
valorie | could have been ahead for awhile | 04:35 |
valorie | but it isn't now | 04:35 |
valorie | I don't use ff much anymore now that falkon works everywhere for me | 04:36 |
kinghat | everywhere? | 04:38 |
valorie | so far, yes | 04:38 |
valorie | all the sites I use | 04:38 |
valorie | including my bank | 04:38 |
kinghat | i use a lot of extensions and sync. and i really like chrome. | 04:39 |
kinghat | i think brave is going to be nice once they catch up because its just chrome w/o all the google. but you get sync and all the extensions. | 04:39 |
valorie | I do use chrome sometimes for the addons that are available only for it | 04:39 |
valorie | I do genealogy and some of those addons are really handy | 04:40 |
valorie | but that is rare | 04:40 |
kinghat | ah. like the ancestry stuffs? | 04:40 |
valorie | yes, there are addons for all the major sites - ancestry, familytreedna and 23andme | 04:41 |
kinghat | ah | 04:42 |
kinghat | ok thanks for the help valorie/Bashing-om. have a good one! | 04:42 |
valorie | you too | 04:42 |
valorie | glad your upgrade went well | 04:42 |
kinghat | ty! | 04:43 |
Bashing-om | kinghat: :) | 04:43 |
BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:32 |
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erle- | no release yet/ | 20:15 |
erle- | ? | 20:15 |
erle- | oh, next week | 20:15 |
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