=== not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === ueberall is now known as uebera|| === hays_ is now known as hays [02:40] so i upgraded from 18.04.1 to 18.10 and it disabled sources during the upgrade. should i enable the sources that were disabled? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9snA0aIg/image.png [02:44] I would check with each PPA to see if 1. you still need them and 2. if they have Cosmic packages [02:44] kinghat: pastebin ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' and we have a dissertation on how to know what can be re-enabled. [02:44] ppas are auto-disabled [02:44] always [02:55] http://paste.debian.net/hidden/f4e36ba8/ [02:59] kinghat: looking . [03:00] is it odd that discover has some enabled but the software sources doesnt? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CQlkFxXy/image.png [03:03] kinghat: Befor I look at that last .. in your browser open " http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu/ " and open "dists/". now you see that 18.10 is supported by this PPA and can be enabled. [03:06] kinghat: The repos ( main, universe, multiverse ) are not the same as a PPA . [03:07] can i remove all of the repos with bionic? [03:07] kinghat: where as this PPA " http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu " is not supported . [03:07] the *verse ones. [03:08] kinghat: IF ya do remove the repos,, then no updates and no security fixes ! UN-Good . [03:09] i mean the bionic ones. how would i get updates/security fixes from them if they are disabled? [03:15] oh! .. sheeshh ,, did not have my thinkong cap on .. Yeah you are on cosmic ! ' lsb_relase -a ' to confirm .. and if cosmic then YES - disable bionic . [03:16] lsb_release -a ** [03:17] `lsb_release -a` worked fine. yes its cosmic - 18.10. but i knew that. [03:18] also they are already disabled as you can see in the last image i posted. im just asking if i can delete them? [03:19] kinghat: :) .. but I did not know for sure .. I work terminal mostly rather than GUI and thus I can get lost in what we are looking at . [03:19] np. its late here too. i didnt know if you were messing with me or not. [03:20] kinghat: Delete bionic sources, yes . [03:22] kinghat: I do not mess around, and try real hard not to mislead :P I got a reputation to protect :) [03:23] hah np. [03:23] here is everything thats left: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/nPmc2Nih/image.png [03:23] kinghat: looking. [03:24] kinghat: Gimme a bit as I can not work easily from an image . [03:26] Bashing-om: i ran `tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*` again and this was the output: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/ab478ce8/ [03:30] kinghat: On the origninal past of the sources.list/d .. there is obly that one that is stol good .. but I do not know about " http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/vscode " . nor have I verified goggle chrome . [03:31] they are legit [03:34] kinghat: " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu" is good in cosmic too, if you still want it . But I find those kinds of aids can cause more trouble than they fix . [03:37] i removed it and added it again. it not says cosmic properly. [03:39] kinghat: It should read " deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/danielrichter2007/grub-customizer/ubuntu cosmic main " . [03:40] it does [03:41] not sure why this says `http://ppa.launchpad.net/gezakovacs/ppa/ubuntu/ cosmic main` when there isnt a cosmic folder. [03:43] says bionic in discover: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/AH9rPWIx/image.png [03:48] kinghat: I do not see "bionic" on any of the sources within "other software" (??). [03:52] kinghat: The folder "apt/sources.list.d/" is to comtain all the 3rd party source list files . [04:05] Bashing-om: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bn2fBIb6/image.png [04:08] kinghat: Looks fair .. but I do not think backports repo is available for cosmic to this time. What results: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ' ? [04:10] Bashing-om: i already removed that source and added it back: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu/dists/cosmic/ [04:11] there are sources still in sources.list.d that ive already removed. how do i get rid of those? it wont let me delete them [04:13] kinghat: The GUI has no means to delete the entries - what it does is comment the entry (#) so it is not parsed . To completely remove takes the terminal . [04:17] Bashing-om: `sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nameofrepo.list`? [04:18] oh dear, please don't do that [04:19] edit it if you feel you must, but do not simply remove it [04:20] i cant remove them from that dir w/o doing that though.. [04:21] if they are commented out they do no harm [04:23] is it even bad to have a 3rd party source for an app of a different version of ubuntu? [04:24] i mean the app will work on both of these versions. [04:24] no? [04:24] it only matters for the OS sources, correct? [04:24] that's the point of flavors [04:24] lots of offerings [04:24] sometimes there are "warring libraries" but not often [04:25] you can even install multiple desktops, although that can get tangled [04:25] i mean if i have a firefox ppa for bionic, its not a big deal that its still pointing at bionic when on cosmic is it? [04:25] oh i see. [04:25] oh, different version number [04:26] if the ff ppa has no cosmic packages, you won't get updates until it does [04:26] if ever [04:27] speaking of which, isnt there an up2date firefox repo for ubuntu/kubuntu? [04:27] thats why i was using the security ppa for ff [04:27] why do you say ff is out of date? [04:28] !info firefox cosmic [04:28] firefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 62.0.3+build1-0ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 45596 kB, installed size 172080 kB [04:28] !info firefox cosmic [04:30] if i was getting my ff through that ppa do i have to remove the source and remove ff and start fresh with the main ubuntu repo version? [04:30] no [04:31] will the main repo start updating it? [04:31] yes [04:31] unless it was called something else [04:32] firefox is in main and you can see the version above [04:32] how do i check they are the same name? [04:33] in your terminal, apt show firefox [04:33] or apt-cache policy firefox [04:33] http://paste.debian.net/hidden/1a08259e/ [04:35] so the same [04:35] you're fine without the ppa [04:35] i can probably remove 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-security/ppa/ubuntu/' [04:35] k [04:35] could have been ahead for awhile [04:35] but it isn't now [04:36] I don't use ff much anymore now that falkon works everywhere for me [04:38] everywhere? [04:38] so far, yes [04:38] all the sites I use [04:38] including my bank [04:39] i use a lot of extensions and sync. and i really like chrome. [04:39] i think brave is going to be nice once they catch up because its just chrome w/o all the google. but you get sync and all the extensions. [04:39] I do use chrome sometimes for the addons that are available only for it [04:40] I do genealogy and some of those addons are really handy [04:40] but that is rare [04:40] ah. like the ancestry stuffs? [04:41] yes, there are addons for all the major sites - ancestry, familytreedna and 23andme [04:42] ah [04:42] ok thanks for the help valorie/Bashing-om. have a good one! [04:42] you too [04:42] glad your upgrade went well [04:43] ty! [04:43] kinghat: :) [11:32] Hey folks === tomreyn_ is now known as tomreyn [20:15] no release yet/ [20:15] ? [20:15] oh, next week