[00:00] i install ubuntu budgie but looks a litler laggy even though i like this ubuntu flavor i dont see to find a channel for ubuntu budgie === jje_ is now known as jje === not_phunyguy is now known as phunyguy === BaW_ is now known as BaW === rax-Y is now known as rax- [00:23] Howdy. I'm still trying to figure out what causes apt to download various Translation files for a repo. Anyone have a clue? [00:26] johnhmay http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/apt.conf.5.html and Languages: "The Languages subsection controls which Translation files are downloaded and in which [00:26] order APT tries to display the description-translations" === chalcedny is now known as chalcedony [00:28] treehug88, awesome, exactly what I was trying to find. Thanks [00:36] Hello. So I just ran an "apt autoremove" and I'm getting quite a few things. And I don't know if getting on with it is safe or not because I feel like it is trying to remove a lot. The reason I found myself here was that I removed Hexchat but some dependencies still appear like "Hexchat - Python3 Plugin" and when I tried to remove those dependencies a lot more popped up. More than I expected. Here's what appears: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KRY8YbKBgF/ [00:37] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2403368 I can't get 18.04 LTS server edition to run fsck on root. Is this a bug? [00:39] I actually have the same issue, I tried a couple of things like updating my grub config, but it still didn't run. [00:39] I haven't looked into this any more, but I think I will now. [00:41] it's really important.... I can't keep my fs healthy without it [00:41] going crazy from it [00:43] Should probably open a bug report about it since we both are experiencing this. [00:44] ok, I will go ahead [00:44] I tried 'sudo touch /forcefsck' as well. [00:44] dman777: What results when you run fsck from a liveUSB ? [00:44] After the reboot the file was gone. [00:48] Bashing-om: I haven't [00:48] I don't believe /forcefsck will work becuase of systemd, right? I had used tune2fs with no success [00:49] tomtom-: but same here... I tried it anyways and file disappears [00:49] dman777: I have experienced where the force fsck from grub is ineffective, where a more in-depth repair from the liveUSB(DVD) worked ! [00:50] Bashing-om: That's not an option for people running instances on AWS and other cloud services. [00:51] dman777: I have heard it both ways, the skinny: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html [00:52] tomtom-: can you file the bug? I don't think I can do it accurately [00:53] man, I never thought Ubunutu would be more broken than Gentoo === mouses is now known as upgrayedd === upgrayedd is now known as mouses [00:56] dman777: Have you tested on other systems than 18.04 server edition? I haven't, but I'm sitting on a 18.04 locally here, but it's Xubuntu, but I'll give it a go anyway. === wodencafe is now known as WODENCAFE === Tin__man is now known as Tin_man [01:01] Seems to work locally. === WODENCAFE is now known as WodenCafe [01:14] tomtom-: I have not. So you have it fsck working? [01:14] It works on my laptop yes, but not on my servers. [01:16] I'm running lts on a ryzen 5 [01:16] no cloud [01:18] I'm filing a report, ok? [01:18] ok, please do [01:19] if you have the link I can post my specs on it also [01:19] I'll post the link here once filed. [01:23] I'll just do a couple of more tests on my server. === ueberall is now known as uebera|| === capellasZombie_ is now known as capellasZombie [01:37] ok.... xset s blank; xset s 5 isn't working ethere....screen saver never kicks in :( === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman [01:41] dman777: You ran 'sudo update-grub' of course? Did you check if fsck was present in /boot/grub/grub.cfg afterwards? === hays_ is now known as hays [01:48] tomtom-: yes and no. I ran it, it didn't place it in there. So I edited grub.cfg directly and placed it on the kernel command line. I also used tun2fs and set the mount count to 1 and rebooted many times [01:48] no success [01:49] I needed to add it to /etc/default/grub.d/50-cloudimg-settings.cfg in order for update-grub to pick up the changes (on EC2). [01:49] But still no success. [01:49] So I'm finishing the bug report now. [02:05] Ffs, Timeout error [02:05] When filing, and I forgot to copy all the text I wrote. [02:07] And it disappeared when going back. [02:10] Phew, it showed up again when I started entering the summary agian. [02:12] whew [02:12] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1797282 [02:12] Launchpad bug 1797282 in Ubuntu "fsck not running on reboot when fsck.mode=force is set" [Undecided,New] [02:12] tomtom-: thanks! I will add on to that tonight before I go to bed [02:12] Great. [02:13] Could you change the title to it not running at all? Since it won't run with tun2fs ether? They might count it as a grub issue instead [02:18] yah that dissection is fun [02:19] Yes, I'll change it. [02:24] thanks! [02:24] Which kernel are you on? [02:30] tomtom-: not sure PC is in the other room.... I just replied with a comment though with all the info [02:30] I also did a upgrade tonight and still did not help [02:30] hello [02:31] any of you guys know how to fix wine where itll actually load up world of warcraft battle.net launcher? mine keeps stating it needs libcef.dll [02:32] i thought there was a wow native linux client [02:32] is there? [02:32] please do tell. [02:33] there isn't [02:33] well, there was [02:33] but that was before the game launched [02:33] evilytwisted, check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZVkfp_frs === RaptorJesus_ is now known as RaptorJesus [02:36] ty cim209 [02:37] input methods in ubuntu (and I guess linux in general) is such a mess. [02:37] fcitx is just weird. [02:38] evilytwisted, good luck [02:38] I can't type with Canadian Multilingual layout, even though I've added it to the fcitx's input method config. [02:39] I have a failing hard drive. I have a backup of a few months ago. Since it temp-fails quickly and works a little after a reboot, how can I copy all files modified this year to a drive on another folder, skipping bad ones, and preserving directory structure? [02:40] *skipping old ones [02:49] rsync? [02:49] cim209: if you dont mind me bothering you? i did the command for wget, and this is the output gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. [02:49] i copied and paste the whole wget. [02:58] is xubuntu considered official flavor? [03:02] https://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours [03:04] cim209: TY for suggesting lutris [03:08] Right. So I'm on Xubuntu 18.04 with compton and I'm experiencing weird freezes. I noticed that in VLC and Skype. During video playback, the image freezes, but the sound keeps playing. When I move the window around, the image unfreezes. Same with Skype, sound is fine, but image freezes randomly. === semeion is now known as mnemonic === capellasZombie is now known as capella|away === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam === ToBeCloud is now known as ToBeFree === ToBeFree is now known as ToBeCloud === deathonater is now known as Smeef [04:37] hi is there a way to install ubuntu server without all the cloud stuff like cloud-init ? [04:38] or is there a better installer to use if I just want a very minimal ubuntu install without any of that extra stuff? [04:40] patz0r: try #ubuntu-server mate, all the experts over there [04:41] thanks lotuspsychje [04:41] Hi guys, according to `man cron`, it's possible to configure the logging of the cron daemon via /etc/default/cron. But where do I find the syntax? [04:42] !cron | k_sze[work] can this help mate? [04:42] k_sze[work] can this help mate?: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto [04:49] lotuspsychje, no, not really. That page doesn't talk about the syntax in /etc/default/cron either. [04:49] or /etc/init/cron.conf and /etc/init/cron.override. [04:50] k_sze[work]: cat /etc/default/cron says it's been deprecated and to use /etc/init/cron.conf see "man 5 init" [04:50] hmm nothing there about cron though [04:53] k_sze[work]: this might help https://askubuntu.com/questions/966194/16-04-how-do-i-make-cron-create-cron-log-and-monitor-it-in-real-time [04:54] A bit. [04:55] EriC^^, I wish I can tell cron to directly send the logs to rsyslog on a remote host. === cyclohexane_ is now known as cyclohexane === cyclohexane is now known as cyclohexane_ [04:55] So I don't need an rsyslog on the local host just to forward the logs to our central log server. [04:56] k_sze[work]: https://www.rsyslog.com/sending-messages-to-a-remote-syslog-server/ [04:56] oh ok [04:57] Right. So I'm on Xubuntu 18.04 with compton and I'm experiencing weird freezes. I noticed that in VLC and Skype. During video playback, the image freezes, but the sound keeps playing. When I move the window around, the image unfreezes. Same with Skype, sound is fine, but image freezes randomly. [04:59] dead_moroz: did you try running vlc from a terminal to see if it gives any relevant warnings or error messages [04:59] what's compton btw? [05:00] Compton is a window compositor. Replaced my xfwm4 due to tearing [05:01] compton or compiz? [05:01] Compton [05:01] oh ok [05:02] Running VLC right now, let's just wait for the freeze [05:20] Weird. Now it doesn't freeze === andyhuzhill_ is now known as andyhuzhill === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [05:48] Which laptop should I buy now? I use ubuntu only. [05:48] I am using ubuntu from last 2 years. I want a full ubuntu complaint laptop. [05:49] usualrise: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/models/?category=Laptop [05:53] EriC, I just had a minor freeze, but nothing popped up in my terminal [05:54] dead_moroz: does anything get listed about it if you type "dmesg" in the terminal? [05:55] dead_moroz: are you using the recommended graphics driver? "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" might list it [05:57] "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" doesn't give any output. Nothing special in dmesg also [05:57] dead_moroz: are you using the latest kernel? everything up to date? === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [05:58] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:59] Downloading 70MB of updates [05:59] that sounds promising, any linux-image updates? [06:00] No linux-image updates [06:00] ok [06:01] Done upgrading. Should I reboot? [06:02] dead_moroz: yeah [06:04] rebooted [06:09] 0.o [06:23] i reported a bug a few hours ago, it was marked new and undecided. when I logged in again on launchpad, my bug report is no longer there. it was deleted. why? [06:24] hashrack: devs can decide what to delete or not, are you sure its not there anymore? [06:25] hi, when i want to join my ubuntu chans i'm redirected to ubuntu unregged, but i'm registered and i can join my chans manually. is there some bugs ? [06:26] no bugs. channel trolls = high security. [06:26] MagicNumbers, just /msg nickserv identify [your password here] [06:26] morning cfhowlett [06:26] yowza ^3 lotus|NUC [06:28] lotus|NUC: its not there. i just checked my email, it says its a duplicate bug report on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1656100. i checked the link, bug exist since January 13, 2017. and it still hasn't been fixed? [06:28] Launchpad bug 1656100 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "Unable to remove signing keys using gnome-software-properties" [Undecided,Confirmed] [06:28] hi cfhowlett i got this command in hexchat for my freenode network but i have to join my chans manually$ [06:28] yep, same here, MagicNumbers [06:29] excessive action trolls is the reason why [06:29] oh ok [06:29] hashrack: duplicates can get removed [06:30] hashrack: thats why before creating a bug, it asks at bottom if it already exists or not [06:30] Q: I'm assembling a new system for use with ubuntu in the next week which will have an m.2 SSD. I'm confused as to if I need a swap file or not (will it contribute to drive wear). I see "swapiness" is something that can be set in the OS and wonder if I should tinker with this at all as well. I have 16GB of ram coming for this build. [06:31] thanos: i always let ubuntu choose partition, even on ssd's [06:31] I would assume with 16gb it shouldn't need to swap much anyway, right. [06:32] thanos: the users choice mate [06:32] lotus|NUC: i saw it exist, but it was over a year ago so i decided to create a new one [06:33] thanos: i always let auto partition, install preload, swappiness=10, fstab relatime [06:34] hashrack: if the 'older' bug is still active and relevant for your bug, add yourself affected to the existing bug [06:34] I don't know anything about fstab yet. :\ I'll look it up. thanks. [06:35] I'm honestly more existed about just building a linux systme than anything I've done in computers in the last decade. [06:35] excited* [06:35] thanos: welcome to the ubuntu community, where the magic happens :p [06:35] ubuntu is a gateway drug [06:36] Hi, has anybody faced issues with Nvidia Optimus drivers and ubuntu 18.04 ? I haven't been able to fix it despite of using Google. Did any method work for you ? [06:36] Elec_A: first check, try ubuntu-drivers list, to see what your system reccomends for your card [06:36] i got an old computer and it could be cool to build a linux system too === RaptorJesus_ is now known as RaptorJesus === iehusha is now known as Zi0nEl === Zi0nEl is now known as Zi0nEl591 [06:51] Anybody Have Anything On this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/834132/updated-ubuntu-16-04-now-im-running-kali [06:52] Just Realized my 18.10 Ubuntu is kali rolli [06:53] Thus Explain Why Postfix Noy Work And am Have Package inst PROBLENx . [06:53] Cant Use They solution Cause This an server enviroment [06:54] Hi, I'm looking for a simple bootloader that just works, and supports efi and windows/linux dual boot. I have a 500MB fat32 partition with efi flags on for it, I also have the windows and linux efi files. which bootloader do you recommend? and how can I set it up? Thank you [06:55] atralheaven, have you looked into grub? [06:56] kraiskil: yes, but I couldn't set it up... [06:57] btw my / partition is encrypted [06:58] and my distro is not Ubuntu, I asked here because there are people to help, I don't think the distro itself makes any difference when the problem is about the bootloader [06:58] Ah, ok. I fear the answer is still grub ... but hang around, perhaps someone else has a better suggestion :) [06:59] do you know how can I set it up, so my laptop can recognize it when it's turned on? [07:00] atralheaven: this channel is for ubuntu, if you want general support, ##linux exists [07:00] Zi0nEl591: apt tools update to the latest package available; if you add kali sources (debian sid/testing) to an older Ubuntu system, you'll end up switching & no-longer running a clean Ubuntu system. Katoolin (spel?) is not from a Ubuntu source (no packages by exist by that name on Ubuntu sources; it's a git script); it turns the OS into a non-Ubuntu & off-topic in my opinion here & on ask.ubuntu [07:02] atralheaven: what specific distro? [07:02] and, is there any advantage if I use refind instead of grub? [07:02] guiverc, i Never install That But Am having same problem Was running ubuntu, i Did a Network install over ssh with chroot and did dist-upgrade Fro-14.- To 18. And soneplace along The way am Now running kali [07:02] Ben64: even if the problem is not distro related? [07:03] atralheaven: right [07:03] hashrack: manjaro, I think I should use another channel [07:04] Ben64: ok, I will ask it on ##linux :) thank you for mentioning that [07:04] atralheaven: did you try to ask in #manjaro? [07:04] guiverc, KINDLY read 1st Respond on That Link All The Way THROUGH PleASE "Yes, you are now using Kali...." [07:05] And i Don't Have their archive [07:07] hashrack: not now, but based on my experience, it's not as active as here. anyway, it seems that ##linux is a good place for my current problem :) [07:07] Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is only tested to upgrade to 16.04 LTS; to release upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS requires two jumps using Ubuntu tools. [07:10] hi [07:12] Laptop: Dell XPS 13; OS: ubuntu 18.04; Issue: My keyboard on laptop has repeated key strokes, but when I connect external keyboard, the external keyboard works fine. [07:14] aright Well APPARENTLY Another User i Have on this Box DID install That script Anyideas On How To Change It Back? Cause It i just edit the /etc/lsb-release To The incorrect version And update grub Don't Know What Expect ! [07:15] abhigenie92, same machine, I had the opposite issue: external keyboard could do that when the USB on the device crashed (HW/FW failure). Do you happen to have a DELL docking station attached when this happens? [07:17] Zi0nEl591: myself, I would clean install & improve security so users can't do strange things if it's a production machine. Ubuntu 18.10 questions should be in #ubuntu+1, as the latest released version of Ubuntu is 18.04 LTS; I'd look thru history/logs, sources etc & see wht was used, dpkg -s etc to find how much came from non-Ubuntu sources to access damage and see if a fix would be easier than re-install [07:17] s/access/assess [07:19] kraiskil, no I don't have a dell docking station [07:21] kraiskil, what is your bios version? [07:23] latest as of a month ago [07:23] abhigenie92, ^ [07:24] abhigenie92, othervise the laptop works ok (Dell original Ubuntu 16.04 installation), but he TB16 dock kills all USB stuff twice a day. [07:26] sudo apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop | grep '[ |]Depends: [^<]' | cut -d: -f2 | tr -d ' ' | xargs sudo apt-get --reinstall install -y [07:26] Would Fix a desktop Enviro, But Noy Trying To put desktop packages on server [07:27] sudo apt-get --reinstall install base-files/bionic-updates && sudo reboot Any Body Been Followed That and have anything To Say Bout this? [08:09] Hi all! Ubuntu 18.04. When I double click a .ppt or .doc, I have WPS Writer and Presentation set to launch. When I launch them, often the icon in the left-hand Gnome launcher menu thing combines with something else that is running, such as Slack. Any idea of how to fix? [08:32] Hey all, I've got Ubuntu 18.04 running on a low powered Intel HD 630 graphics (CPU & motherboard based), with dual 4k monitors. It successfully detects the HDMI 4k monitor, sets it to 4k, but only at 30 Hz (runs at 60 Hz in Windows 10), however the second monitor, connected to the displayport connector only gets detected at 1024x768 (ugh). I've got the xrandr commands to set up the second monitor, on DP, to 4k @ 60Hz, but how do I make this permanent? [08:32] Also how come there's no 150% DPI scaling, 200% is horrible, 100% is a little difficult to read === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [09:44] Hi, How can I find the source of this issue: https://pastebin.com/Av0My0Da There is no such a thing as "alias * off" in modprobe.d config files. [09:47] i run sudo apt update and it says "1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it." i tried sudo apt upgrade but didn't upgrade anything. nor does sudo apt full-upgrade. i tried apt list --upgradable and it shows "shim-signed/bionic-updates....." how can i apply this update? [09:48] hashrack: is it currently "held back" - which means other packages it depends on are not yet avaiable in the archive [09:49] TJ-: oh,ok. thanks. first time encountering this [09:50] hashrack: I'm guessing - you would see that message when trying to do "apt {full-,}upgrade" if so [09:51] TJ-: no, it just say "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." [09:52] hashrack: hmmm. I think you need to show us. Do "pastebinit <( lsb_release -r; apt list --upgradable; sudo apt upgrade )" [09:56] TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JT4frtDQWb/ [10:00] that bionic updates has been hanging about for a month or three now. I see it in the update popup but shows no details. === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [10:02] hashrack: According to the big-tracker there are a lot of problems with that package currently due to dependency failures, so I suspect it may have been temporarily withdrawn from the archive [10:02] grrr, bug-tracker! [10:02] hashrack: See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim-signed/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 [10:06] hashrack: Seems like the problem is the latest package declares a versioned dependency on a previous version of "shim (= 13-0ubuntu2)" (that should be "shim ( = 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1)" as far as I can tell [10:06] there were a few updates with it, grub, but they we're installed. but not that one === anonymousK is now known as kundancool === kundancool is now known as anonymousK === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [10:08] gtg [10:08] TJ-: thanks === fowlplay is now known as descara === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [10:44] hello, what actions in a linux like Ubuntu will contribute to gathering system entropy? [10:44] some programs recommend using keyboard, mouse, other articles mention network activity, etc [10:45] Is this correct? What are some other factors? [10:48] airwind: learn from the horses-mouth: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6550256 [10:49] airwind: short answer: the fast-mix pool === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [10:54] So I'm still having boot problems... Ubuntu was installed and working fine, then I LUKS encrypted my root partition in place, and created a separate unencrypted boot partition. I've tried setting grub up correctly, and grub starts, but upon selecting Ubuntu it takes a minute or so and eventually shows this error: https://i.imgur.com/LYQ6peB.jpg without prompting for the decryption password. Blkid and all the configs are here: http://termb [10:56] gt_: can you repeat the second link please? [10:57] the second link? http://termbin.com/kq2j [10:57] not sure what you mean [10:57] gt_: yes, that it got cut off [10:58] gt_: did you re-run "update-initramfs -u" in the encrypted rootfs so it adds the required tooling to the initrd.img? Also, did you add an entry to /etc/crypttab ? [10:59] yes, `update-initramfs -u -k all` and `update-grub` [10:59] crypttab is http://termbin.com/xqwy [11:00] gt_: Did you update the rootfs UUID/node reference in /etc/fstab too? In other words, does UUID d1cd53c7... exist? === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [11:00] gt_: why did you put that cryptdevice thing in the command line? it's not needed for regular ubuntu's initramfs, are you using some other tool for it, like dracut or something? [11:01] TJ-: yes UUID are correct, I checked yesterday from that list, and thta's why I'm confused why it wouldn't work. UNLESS it has something to do with EFI. [11:02] gt_: blackflow Secure Boot is enabled I'm guessing (from the PKCS#7 messages) [11:02] TJ-: d1cd is the UUID of the filesystem inside the encrypted luks partition [11:02] I don't have any special setup for root on zfs on luks. ti configured it automagically, from chroot mounted in correct order [11:02] gt_: is LVM in use in the stack from raw disk to LUKS container? [11:02] blackflow: desperation, i set it up on arch also, wasnt sure if ubuntu needed it or not [11:02] no LVM, just LUKS === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [11:02] gt_: nah I think that's for dracut [11:03] ok [11:03] for the error you have, initramfs' init script has no idea it has to unlock the LUKS containers before it tries root. [11:04] gt_: do you have a list of what is in the initrd.img ? [11:04] gt_: I'm assuming you'er manually unlocked and booted it, is that correct? [11:04] would that be `cat /proc/modules` from inside initramfs [11:04] ? [11:04] something weird happend after recent update https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DFbtw79BfK/ [11:05] gt_: no, from a booted OS use "lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r)" [11:05] gt_: you don't even get the passphrase prompt, right? [11:05] i've been chrooting into the partitions from a liveusb [11:05] no prompt, no [11:05] gt_: Or even better, regnerate the initrd and capture the verbose log with "sudo update-initramfs -vu |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log" [11:06] gt_: I'm guessing the cryptsetup tools, and/or the ./conf/conf.d/cryptroot file isn't there [11:06] TJ-: http://termbin.com/bk2u [11:07] gt_: you know what I think? you're not even using the initramfs it is creating, but something left from somehwere else / before [11:07] strange, I completely wiped /boot earlier, including the contents of /boot/efi, and set it up from scratch [11:08] yah see, no cryptsetup in that list. Are you 100% sure that's from mounted /boot? mounted from /dev/sda3 ? Not a remnant from before when /boot was part of root? [11:08] maybe the update command is updating it somewhere else, but the reinstall of the kernel is adding to the right place? [11:08] gt_: mount | grep boot [11:08] blackflow: that sounds plausible, and a frequent gotchya! [11:08] TJ-: been burned by that a few times :) [11:09] that's the result of `lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-36-generic` [11:10] i will check it's from sda3 for sure [11:10] gt_: in your current chroot, did you mount "UUID=d4579df8-2760-41f1-8249-e9638d4d209c /boot" ? [11:11] gt_: when I use a chroot, from the host I bind-mount proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf and then once inside the chroot I do "mount -a" to ensure all fstab entries are correctly mounteed [11:11] gt_: this is how it should look with cryptsetup available: https://dpaste.de/Bahq [11:12] gt_: but make sure it is, with a mount | grep boot afterwards. this doesn't seem like it is [11:12] initrd is definitely on sda3, i unmounted everything else [11:14] how I've been setting up chroot is `cryptsetup open /dev/sda7 cryptroot; mount /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt; mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/boot; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi; for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do mount --bind $i /mnt$i; done; chroot /mnt` [11:14] should I do something different? [11:15] gt_: that's OK - although I always recommend leaving the fstab mounts to "mount -a" once inside the chroot - that ensures you can detect errors/ommissions that can fail the /bootable/ system [11:15] what decides whether cryptsetup gets put into initramfs? [11:16] gt_: I'd use -R instead: mount -R /dev /mnt/dev && mount -R /sys /mnt/sys && mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc [11:16] gt_: So, in your chroot grab us a verbose update-initramfs log [11:16] because there's also dev/shm you forgot (not sure if that's the culprit) and there's submounts in /sys too (cgroups and friends) [11:16] gt_: as in "update-initramfs -vu -k YOUR_VERSION |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log" [11:16] gt_: initramfs hooks do from autodetecting layers under root [11:17] gt_: oh one more thing... when you chroot, make sure /etc/mtab is correct or symlinking to /proc/self/mounts [11:17] that's what's checked against for current mount data, in chroot [11:19] gt_: One thing I can imagine is this: if the liveISO boot uses an oolder kernel and you do not specify which kernel version then 'update-initramfs -u' (with no -k X) would build for an older kernel that is likely not the default used by GRUB [11:19] good catch! [11:19] gt_: did say "-k all" was used at some point though [11:20] and grub.cfg menu entry seems correct too: initrd/initrd.img-4.15.0-36-generic (still good idea to make 100% sure) [11:21] hi guys , trying to install ubuntu 18 in 2nd hdd, windows in 1 ssd already installed , unable to boot into ubuntu ? boot-repair report http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WMkcCHtFJK/ [11:21] mtab is symlinked outside the chroot, should i symlink it to proc inside the chroot? [11:22] efibootmgr op is : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rhhgPJRZbq/ [11:22] gt_: yes, to be 100% sure. iirc in the past mtab was used instead of /proc/self/mounts and some tools might still be using mtab instead of procfs directly === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [11:23] gt_: but uh... it should already be linked, because in chroot, /proc is the bind-mounted proc [11:24] made a mistake, it's fine [11:24] any help guys [11:24] chrooted in with -R on /proc /dev and /sys, will get the initramfs log [11:24] humblewolf: in what way does it fail? At what point? what do you (not) see ? [11:26] TJ- : first it does not show as uefi entry in firmware boot ment [11:26] menu* [11:26] whatsapp [11:27] TJ- : second there is an entry in legacy section of firmware boot menu which points to this hdd, if i select it there it shows no os found [11:27] initrd log: http://termbin.com/q6db [11:28] humblewolf: if you don't see ubuntu in the PC's own boot menu then I'd guess it is related to Secure Boot options, and/or needing to manually "Trust" the grubx64.efi/shimx64.efi" files from the PC firmware Security menus [11:29] gt_: "WARNING: missing /lib/modules/4.15.0-36" !! [11:29] TJ-: have u read the report ??? is it okay ?? [11:29] i guess i ran it wrong, hang on [11:29] and no crypto [11:30] TJ-: do i need to disable secure boot from firmware settings [11:30] humblewolf: the bootrepair report doesn't seem to show any problems but it is easy to get lost there due to too much inconsiquential data [11:31] TJ-: http://termbin.com/wu3v [11:31] humblewolf: Secure Boot will be fine *if* "shim-signed" package was/is installed. But if the "ubuntu" entry doesn't appear on the menu then you'll need to experiment with the firmware options [11:31] needed the `-generic` on the ond, didn't realize [11:32] surprised it even did anything [11:32] Hey folks [11:32] gt_: still no cryptsetup [11:32] gt_: Better, but still no cigar! ^^^^ as blackflow says [11:32] gt_: "apt install --reinstall cryptsetup" [11:32] at least it's narrowed down the issue now [11:33] TJ-: yeah, all this time I forgot to ask if crypsetup is even installed in the chroot (assuming it's there because the countainer is mounting, so....) lol. [11:33] can anybody explain what does it means https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SXxStpgPX5/ [11:33] blackflow: indeed :) [11:33] cryptsetup isn't installed in the chroot, that makes a lot of sense [11:33] TJ-: okay let me play with firmware settings, one more thing the efi partition has only 4 mb space usage , is it okay ??? [11:34] gt_: Doh! [11:34] there you go :))) [11:34] humblewolf: yes, it doesn't need much [11:35] humblewolf: bootrepair shows "/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi" so Ubuntu is installed to work with Secure Boot - so I'm betting there is a "trust" option in the firmware Security setup [11:37] TJ-: okay one more thing , which bootloader will be fired up , sda2 or sdb1 [11:39] humblewolf: whichever is referenced in the firmware boot menu config. You can see in that efibootmgr shows "Boot0002* ubuntu HD(1,GPT,496e633e-35ce-4c57-ab1d-7c20b02ae10c,0x800,0x113000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi)" ( "HD 1" as opposed to "HD 2" for Windows) suggests different devices [11:41] blackflow: TJ-: brilliant, boots up fine(ish) now! [11:41] TJ-: it means my ssd is hd2 [11:42] ish being it's also in read-only mode [11:42] so I guess have to change grub config? [11:42] gt_: thank TJ, he thought of it. I totally forgot to ask. [11:42] gt_: in what way? [11:42] gt_: you're not using an encrypted /boot/ so GRUB shouldn't need any changes [11:43] terminal complains that it's a read only file system when it tries to do anything in the booted up system [11:44] i noted there was "ro" in the grub.cfg but on my working machine it is "rw" [11:44] TJ-: one more thing , when does shimx64.efi comes into picture, ? bro i'm new to this bootloading thing [11:44] TJ-: sorry for asking noob questions [11:45] gt_: ro is for initramfs. once pivoted, root is mounted normally [11:45] or would it be to do with fstab? [11:45] gt_: possibly, can you pastebin it again, I lost the link [11:45] humblewolf: for Secure Boot, since it is signed by Microsoft's CA cert. It contains the Canonical/Ubuntu public key, which is used to sign the kernel etc. So it goes UEFI > shimx64.efi > grubx64.efi > vmlinuz-$VERSION ... [11:45] http://termbin.com/cj7i3 [11:46] gt_: no that's errors=remount-ro, which is normal. so, do you ahve some major error there? can you `mount -o remount,rw /` ? [11:46] TJ-: okay got it , thanks bro [11:46] ah, was in the process of rebooting into chroot again [11:47] can i do all this from the normal system i.e. not liveusb? [11:47] gt_: should be possible yes === anonymousK is now known as kundancool [11:47] gt_: pastebin just `mount` from the booted system [11:50] seemed like disk needed "fsck"ing on reboot [11:50] i guess that was the error [11:50] gt_: excellent! [11:51] hello [11:52] all working! thanks so much! [11:54] anyone know a dummy command that needs sudo privileges ? [11:54] ph88: any command can be run under sudo [11:55] TJ-, what's the link to your blog to change the grub entry for windows 2015 or whatever? [11:55] Khaotic: for acpi_osi ? [11:55] can != need [11:55] yuip [11:55] Khaotic: this > http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [11:55] ph88: "sudo uname -a" maybe ? [11:55] that's it. thanks!!! [11:56] grub updated and i need to readd it i think [11:56] TJ-, uname -a does not need sudo rights to execute [11:56] Khaotic: in theory if you added it to /etc/default/grub then there's nothing more you need to do [11:56] ph88 'ls /root' [11:56] ah thx [11:57] I once ran 'rm -rf /lib' - I felt like a dummy :) [11:57] you're right [11:57] it didnt change [11:57] kraiskil: not as much as the system did :) [11:57] just wanted to be on the safe side [11:59] kraiskil: I once dealt with a server where the admin did that... it was surprisingly easy to repair [12:00] yup. but it does give a scare though. [12:19] Hi! I have a very strange problem after kernel upgrade/system update/tweaking thermal settings. The problem is related to unresponsive gui, but it happens only with Xorg, and everything seems to be fine with wayland. [12:20] I'm using integrated intel gpu. Tried reboot, previous kernel, disabling the thermal tweak but still no clue what's going on. [12:21] RAM, CPU and the rest looks fine. The dmesg logs as well look fine. Any suggestions what to check next? [12:21] Atlantic778: can you provide us your ubuntu version/kernel please [12:22] lotus|NUC: ubuntu 18.04, currently booted kernel is 4.15.0-36-generic [12:22] Atlantic778: did it work on .35? [12:22] This is the new one, the previous one is -34. I don't have any other kernels installed. [12:23] And I can't recall which one was booted when it was working. [12:23] Atlantic778: can you test it on 34 for example? [12:24] lotus|NUC: I did test with 34, didn't help. [12:24] Atlantic778: so we can closeout kernel issue right [12:24] Atlantic778: what exactly did you tweak about thermal? [12:24] lotus|NUC: I think so. I suspect it's X. [12:25] lotus|NUC: the thermal fix is related to the problem with recent lenovo machines. It's this solution https://github.com/erpalma/lenovo-throttling-fix [12:26] lotus|NUC: effectively, it sets new values in the msr registers. If this is disabled / removed, everything should go back to normal after reboot. I can confirm that msr registers are set with this solution and they have the old values when I disable it. [12:26] The old (original) vlue being 20, and the new one 5. [12:26] Atlantic778: before playing with the git, did you notice lenovo firmware updates from gnome-software? [12:27] lotus|NUC: yes, I did, I have updated to the most recent BIOS for my machine and it fixed some problems (deep sleep for example). [12:27] My current BIOS version for thinkpad x1c6 is 1.30 [12:28] BIOS/firmware whatever it's called these days. I did the update using fwupdmgr. [12:28] Atlantic778: you said this occured after updates, in wich stage did you have it working? [12:29] Atlantic778: at which point is the GUI unresponsive? Login greeter, immediately after log-in, after some time or particular action? [12:30] Atlantic778: and your graphics card chipset/driver version might be relevant too for us [12:32] Everything worked fine after the firmware upgrade for couple of weeks. Today I did system update (it was just 4 packages, can recall which ones, nothing serious). I wasn't sure if I rebooted after the last kernel update so I rebooted the laptop just to be sure. [12:32] Before the reboot, I applied the thermal fix, and also wasn't sure if it was working, but GUI was responsive at the time. [12:34] TJ-: the GUI seems to be responsive on the login screen. Once I start the regular session, after login, the cursor is responsive as before, but GUI doesn't respond quickly to clicks, and or to keyboard (for instance openning the terminal). Also, typing in the terminal is slow, but I would say that it is just graphics related. [12:34] when I type in "sudo reboot" followed by the password, the command is not yet visible in the terminal, but the laptop will reboot instantly [12:35] Also, this doesn't happen when I start ubuntu wayland session, which I am running now. [12:35] Atlantic778: OK, so we have a chance of gathering logs whilst the issue is active. So, I'd suggest looking at $HOME/.xsession-errors (or copying that file somewhere safe) whilst a problem GUI session is active [12:35] lotus|NUC: which numbers specifically would be helpful? I am not sure. [12:35] Atlantic778: that file is recreated on each log-in so you need to copy it to preserve it [12:37] TJ-: alright, let me reconnect from other machine and get the log. be right back. [12:37] Thank you for your support! :) === asphyxia is now known as kogumanomisha === kogumanomisha is now known as asphyxia === kundancool is now known as anonymousK [12:47]