[00:00] <Krennic> i install ubuntu budgie but looks a litler laggy even though i like this ubuntu flavor i dont see to find a channel for ubuntu budgie
[00:23] <johnnyfive> Howdy. I'm still trying to figure out what causes apt to download various Translation files for a repo. Anyone have a clue?
[00:26] <treehug88> johnhmay http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/apt.conf.5.html  and Languages: "The Languages subsection controls which Translation files are downloaded and in which
[00:26] <treehug88>            order APT tries to display the description-translations"
[00:28] <johnnyfive> treehug88, awesome, exactly what I was trying to find. Thanks
[00:36] <ainz> Hello. So I just ran an "apt autoremove" and I'm getting quite a few things. And I don't know if getting on with it is safe or not because I feel like it is trying to remove a lot. The reason I found myself here was that I removed Hexchat but some dependencies still appear like "Hexchat - Python3 Plugin" and when I tried to remove those dependencies a lot more popped up. More than I expected. Here's what appears: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KRY8YbKBgF/
[00:37] <dman777> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2403368 I can't get 18.04 LTS server edition to run fsck on root. Is this a bug?
[00:39] <tomtom-> I actually have the same issue, I tried a couple of things like updating my grub config, but it still didn't run.
[00:39] <tomtom-> I haven't looked into this any more, but I think I will now.
[00:41] <dman777> it's really important.... I can't keep my fs healthy without it
[00:41] <dman777> going crazy from it
[00:43] <tomtom-> Should probably open a bug report about it since we both are experiencing this.
[00:44] <dman777> ok, I will go ahead
[00:44] <tomtom-> I tried 'sudo touch /forcefsck' as well.
[00:44] <Bashing-om> dman777: What results when you run fsck from a liveUSB ?
[00:44] <tomtom-> After the reboot the file was gone.
[00:48] <dman777> Bashing-om: I haven't
[00:48] <dman777> I don't believe /forcefsck will work becuase of systemd, right? I had used tune2fs with no success
[00:49] <dman777> tomtom-: but same here... I tried it anyways and file disappears
[00:49] <Bashing-om> dman777: I have experienced where the force fsck from grub is ineffective, where a more in-depth repair from the liveUSB(DVD) worked !
[00:50] <tomtom-> Bashing-om: That's not an option for people running instances on AWS and other cloud services.
[00:51] <Bashing-om> dman777: I have heard it both ways, the skinny: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html
[00:52] <dman777> tomtom-: can you file the bug? I don't think I can do it accurately
[00:53] <dman777> man, I never thought Ubunutu would be more broken than Gentoo
[00:56] <tomtom-> dman777: Have you tested on other systems than 18.04 server edition? I haven't, but I'm sitting on a 18.04 locally here, but it's Xubuntu, but I'll give it a go anyway.
[01:01] <tomtom-> Seems to work locally.
[01:14] <dman777> tomtom-: I have not. So you have it fsck working?
[01:14] <tomtom-> It works on my laptop yes, but not on my servers.
[01:16] <dman777> I'm running lts on a ryzen 5
[01:16] <dman777> no cloud
[01:18] <tomtom-> I'm filing a report, ok?
[01:18] <dman777> ok, please do
[01:19] <dman777> if you have the link I can post my specs on it also
[01:19] <tomtom-> I'll post the link here once filed.
[01:23] <tomtom-> I'll just do a couple of more tests on my server.
[01:37] <dman777> ok.... xset s blank; xset s 5 isn't working ethere....screen saver never kicks in :(
[01:41] <tomtom-> dman777: You ran 'sudo update-grub' of course? Did you check if fsck was present in /boot/grub/grub.cfg afterwards?
[01:48] <dman777> tomtom-: yes and no. I ran it, it didn't place it in there. So I edited grub.cfg directly and placed it on the kernel command line. I also used tun2fs and set the mount count to 1 and rebooted many times
[01:48] <dman777> no success
[01:49] <tomtom-> I needed to add it to /etc/default/grub.d/50-cloudimg-settings.cfg in order for update-grub to pick up the changes (on EC2).
[01:49] <tomtom-> But still no success.
[01:49] <tomtom-> So I'm finishing the bug report now.
[02:05] <tomtom-> Ffs, Timeout error
[02:05] <tomtom-> When filing, and I forgot to copy all the text I wrote.
[02:07] <tomtom-> And it disappeared when going back.
[02:10] <tomtom-> Phew, it showed up again when I started entering the summary agian.
[02:12] <dman777> whew
[02:12] <tomtom-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1797282
[02:12] <dman777> tomtom-: thanks! I will add on to that tonight before I go to bed
[02:12] <tomtom-> Great.
[02:13] <dman777> Could you change the title to it not running at all? Since it won't run with tun2fs ether? They might count it as a grub issue instead
[02:18] <OhPie> yah that dissection is fun
[02:19] <tomtom-> Yes, I'll change it.
[02:24] <dman777> thanks!
[02:24] <tomtom-> Which kernel are you on?
[02:30] <dman777> tomtom-: not sure PC is in the other room.... I just replied with a comment though with all the info
[02:30] <dman777> I also did a upgrade tonight and still did not help
[02:30] <evilytwisted> hello
[02:31] <evilytwisted> any of you guys know how to fix wine where itll actually load up world of warcraft battle.net launcher? mine keeps stating it needs libcef.dll
[02:32] <cim209> i thought there was a wow native linux client
[02:32] <evilytwisted> is there?
[02:32] <evilytwisted> please do tell.
[02:33] <TimeDoctor> there isn't
[02:33] <TimeDoctor> well, there was
[02:33] <TimeDoctor> but that was before the game launched
[02:33] <cim209> evilytwisted, check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FZVkfp_frs
[02:36] <evilytwisted> ty cim209
[02:37] <k_sze[work]> input methods in ubuntu (and I guess linux in general) is such a mess.
[02:37] <k_sze[work]> fcitx is just weird.
[02:38] <cim209> evilytwisted, good luck
[02:38] <k_sze[work]> I can't type with Canadian Multilingual layout, even though I've added it to the fcitx's input method config.
[02:39] <alazyworkaholic> I have a failing hard drive. I have a backup of a few months ago. Since it temp-fails quickly and works a little after a reboot, how can I copy all files modified this year to a drive on another folder, skipping bad ones, and preserving directory structure?
[02:40] <alazyworkaholic> *skipping old ones
[02:49] <gpunk> rsync?
[02:49] <evilytwisted> cim209:  if you dont mind me bothering you? i did the command for wget, and this is the output gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[02:49] <evilytwisted> i copied and paste the whole wget.
[02:58] <dead_moroz> is xubuntu considered official flavor?
[03:02] <tieinv> https://www.ubuntu.com/download/flavours
[03:04] <evilytwisted> cim209:  TY for suggesting lutris
[03:08] <dead_moroz> Right. So I'm on Xubuntu 18.04 with compton and I'm experiencing weird freezes. I noticed that in VLC and Skype. During video playback, the image freezes, but the sound keeps playing. When I move the window around, the image unfreezes. Same with Skype, sound is fine, but image freezes randomly.
[04:37] <patz0r> hi is there a way to install ubuntu server without all the cloud stuff like cloud-init ?
[04:38] <patz0r> or is there a better installer to use if I just want a very minimal ubuntu install without any of that extra stuff?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> patz0r: try #ubuntu-server mate, all the experts over there
[04:41] <patz0r> thanks lotuspsychje
[04:41] <k_sze[work]> Hi guys, according to `man cron`, it's possible to configure the logging of the cron daemon via /etc/default/cron. But where do I find the syntax?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !cron | k_sze[work] can this help mate?
[04:49] <k_sze[work]> lotuspsychje, no, not really. That page doesn't talk about the syntax in /etc/default/cron either.
[04:49] <k_sze[work]> or /etc/init/cron.conf and /etc/init/cron.override.
[04:50] <EriC^^> k_sze[work]: cat /etc/default/cron says it's been deprecated and to use /etc/init/cron.conf see "man 5 init"
[04:50] <EriC^^> hmm nothing there about cron though
[04:53] <EriC^^> k_sze[work]: this might help https://askubuntu.com/questions/966194/16-04-how-do-i-make-cron-create-cron-log-and-monitor-it-in-real-time
[04:54] <k_sze[work]> A bit.
[04:55] <k_sze[work]> EriC^^, I wish I can tell cron to directly send the logs to rsyslog on a remote host.
[04:55] <k_sze[work]> So I don't need an rsyslog on the local host just to forward the logs to our central log server.
[04:56] <EriC^^> k_sze[work]: https://www.rsyslog.com/sending-messages-to-a-remote-syslog-server/
[04:56] <EriC^^> oh ok
[04:57] <dead_moroz> Right. So I'm on Xubuntu 18.04 with compton and I'm experiencing weird freezes. I noticed that in VLC and Skype. During video playback, the image freezes, but the sound keeps playing. When I move the window around, the image unfreezes. Same with Skype, sound is fine, but image freezes randomly.
[04:59] <EriC^^> dead_moroz: did you try running vlc from a terminal to see if it gives any relevant warnings or error messages
[04:59] <EriC^^> what's compton btw?
[05:00] <dead_moroz> Compton is a window compositor. Replaced my xfwm4 due to tearing
[05:01] <EriC^^> compton or compiz?
[05:01] <dead_moroz> Compton
[05:01] <EriC^^> oh ok
[05:02] <dead_moroz> Running VLC right now, let's just wait for the freeze
[05:20] <dead_moroz> Weird. Now it doesn't freeze
[05:48] <usualrise> Which laptop should I buy now? I use ubuntu only.
[05:48] <usualrise> I am using ubuntu from last 2 years. I want a full ubuntu complaint laptop.
[05:49] <EriC^^> usualrise: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/models/?category=Laptop
[05:53] <dead_moroz> EriC, I just had a minor freeze, but nothing popped up in my terminal
[05:54] <EriC^^> dead_moroz: does anything get listed about it if you type "dmesg" in the terminal?
[05:55] <EriC^^> dead_moroz: are you using the recommended graphics driver? "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" might list it
[05:57] <dead_moroz> "sudo ubuntu-drivers devices" doesn't give any output. Nothing special in dmesg also
[05:57] <EriC^^> dead_moroz: are you using the latest kernel? everything up to date?
[05:58] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:59] <dead_moroz> Downloading 70MB of updates
[05:59] <EriC^^> that sounds promising, any linux-image updates?
[06:00] <dead_moroz> No linux-image updates
[06:00] <EriC^^> ok
[06:01] <dead_moroz> Done upgrading. Should I reboot?
[06:02] <EriC^^> dead_moroz: yeah
[06:04] <dead_moroz> rebooted
[06:09] <slicktux> 0.o
[06:23] <hashrack> i reported a bug a few hours ago, it was marked new and undecided. when I logged in again on launchpad, my bug report is no longer there. it was deleted. why?
[06:24] <lotus|NUC> hashrack: devs can decide what to delete or not, are you sure its not there anymore?
[06:25] <MagicNumbers> hi, when i want to join my ubuntu chans i'm redirected to ubuntu unregged, but i'm registered and i can join my chans manually. is there some bugs ?
[06:26] <cfhowlett> no bugs.  channel trolls = high security.
[06:26] <cfhowlett> MagicNumbers, just /msg nickserv identify [your password here]
[06:26] <lotus|NUC> morning cfhowlett
[06:26] <cfhowlett> yowza ^3 lotus|NUC
[06:28] <hashrack> lotus|NUC: its not there. i just checked my email, it says its a duplicate bug  report on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1656100. i checked the link, bug exist since January 13, 2017. and it still hasn't been fixed?
[06:28] <MagicNumbers> hi cfhowlett i got this command in hexchat for my freenode network but i have to join my chans manually$
[06:28] <cfhowlett> yep, same here, MagicNumbers
[06:29] <cfhowlett> excessive action trolls is the reason why
[06:29] <MagicNumbers> oh ok
[06:29] <lotus|NUC> hashrack: duplicates can get removed
[06:30] <lotus|NUC> hashrack: thats why before creating a bug, it asks at bottom if it already exists or not
[06:30] <thanos> Q: I'm assembling a new system for use with ubuntu in the next week which will have an m.2 SSD. I'm confused as to if I need a swap file or not (will it contribute to drive wear). I see "swapiness" is something that can be set in the OS and wonder if I should tinker with this at all as well. I have 16GB of ram coming for this build.
[06:31] <lotus|NUC> thanos: i always let ubuntu choose partition, even on ssd's
[06:31] <thanos> I would assume with 16gb it shouldn't need to swap much anyway, right.
[06:32] <lotus|NUC> thanos: the users choice mate
[06:32] <hashrack> lotus|NUC: i saw it exist, but it was over a year ago so i decided to create a new one
[06:33] <lotus|NUC> thanos: i always let auto partition, install preload, swappiness=10, fstab relatime
[06:34] <lotus|NUC> hashrack: if the 'older' bug is still active and relevant for your bug, add yourself affected to the existing bug
[06:34] <thanos> I don't know anything about fstab yet. :\   I'll look it up. thanks.
[06:35] <thanos> I'm honestly more existed about just building a linux systme than anything I've done in computers in the last decade.
[06:35] <thanos> excited*
[06:35] <lotus|NUC> thanos: welcome to the ubuntu community, where the magic happens :p
[06:35] <cfhowlett> ubuntu is a gateway drug
[06:36] <Elec_A> Hi, has anybody faced issues with Nvidia Optimus drivers and ubuntu 18.04 ? I haven't been able to fix it despite of using Google. Did any method work for you ?
[06:36] <lotus|NUC> Elec_A: first check, try ubuntu-drivers list, to see what your system reccomends for your card
[06:36] <MagicNumbers> i got an old computer and it could be cool to build a linux system too
[06:51] <Zi0nEl591> Anybody Have Anything On this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/834132/updated-ubuntu-16-04-now-im-running-kali
[06:52] <Zi0nEl591> Just Realized my 18.10 Ubuntu is kali rolli
[06:53] <Zi0nEl591> Thus Explain Why Postfix Noy Work And am Have Package inst PROBLENx .
[06:53] <Zi0nEl591> Cant Use They solution Cause This an server enviroment
[06:54] <atralheaven> Hi, I'm looking for a simple bootloader that just works, and supports efi and windows/linux dual boot. I have a 500MB fat32 partition with efi flags on for it, I also have the windows and linux efi files. which bootloader do you recommend? and how can I set it up? Thank you
[06:55] <kraiskil> atralheaven, have you looked into grub?
[06:56] <atralheaven> kraiskil: yes, but I couldn't set it up...
[06:57] <atralheaven> btw my / partition is encrypted
[06:58] <atralheaven> and my distro is not Ubuntu, I asked here because there are people to help, I don't think the distro itself makes any difference when the problem is about the bootloader
[06:58] <kraiskil> Ah, ok. I fear the answer is still grub ... but hang around, perhaps someone else has a better suggestion :)
[06:59] <atralheaven> do you know how can I set it up, so my laptop can recognize it when it's turned on?
[07:00] <Ben64> atralheaven: this channel is for ubuntu, if you want general support, ##linux exists
[07:00] <guiverc> Zi0nEl591: apt tools update to the latest package available; if you add kali sources (debian sid/testing) to an older Ubuntu system, you'll end up switching & no-longer running a clean Ubuntu system. Katoolin (spel?) is not from a Ubuntu source (no packages by exist by that name on Ubuntu sources; it's a git script); it turns the OS into a non-Ubuntu & off-topic in my opinion here & on ask.ubuntu
[07:02] <hashrack> atralheaven: what specific distro?
[07:02] <atralheaven> and, is there any advantage if I use refind instead of grub?
[07:02] <Zi0nEl591> guiverc, i Never install That But Am having same problem Was running ubuntu, i Did a Network install over ssh with chroot and did dist-upgrade Fro-14.- To 18. And soneplace along The way am Now running kali
[07:02] <atralheaven> Ben64: even if the problem is not distro related?
[07:03] <Ben64> atralheaven: right
[07:03] <atralheaven> hashrack: manjaro, I think I should use another channel
[07:04] <atralheaven> Ben64: ok, I will ask it on ##linux :) thank you for mentioning that
[07:04] <hashrack> atralheaven: did you try to ask in #manjaro?
[07:04] <Zi0nEl591> guiverc, KINDLY read 1st Respond on That Link All The Way THROUGH PleASE "Yes, you are now using Kali...."
[07:05] <Zi0nEl591> And i Don't Have their archive
[07:07] <atralheaven> hashrack: not now, but based on my experience, it's not as active as here. anyway, it seems that ##linux is a good place for my current problem :)
[07:07] <guiverc> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is only tested to upgrade to 16.04 LTS; to release upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS requires two jumps using Ubuntu tools.
[07:10] <abhigenie92> hi
[07:12] <abhigenie92> Laptop: Dell XPS 13; OS: ubuntu 18.04; Issue: My keyboard on laptop has repeated key strokes, but when I connect external keyboard, the external keyboard works fine.
[07:14] <Zi0nEl591> aright Well APPARENTLY Another User i Have on this Box DID install That script Anyideas On How To Change It Back? Cause It i just edit the /etc/lsb-release To The incorrect version And update grub Don't Know What Expect !
[07:15] <kraiskil> abhigenie92, same machine, I had the opposite issue: external keyboard could do that when the USB on the device crashed (HW/FW failure). Do you happen to have a DELL docking station attached when this happens?
[07:17] <guiverc> Zi0nEl591: myself, I would clean install & improve security so users can't do strange things if it's a production machine.  Ubuntu 18.10 questions should be in #ubuntu+1, as the latest released version of Ubuntu is 18.04 LTS;  I'd look thru history/logs, sources etc & see wht was used, dpkg -s etc to find how much came from non-Ubuntu sources to access damage and see if a fix would be easier than re-install
[07:17] <guiverc> s/access/assess
[07:19] <abhigenie92> kraiskil, no I don't have a dell docking station
[07:21] <abhigenie92> kraiskil, what is your bios version?
[07:23] <kraiskil> latest as of a month ago
[07:23] <kraiskil> abhigenie92, ^
[07:24] <kraiskil> abhigenie92, othervise the laptop works ok (Dell original Ubuntu 16.04 installation), but he TB16 dock kills all USB stuff twice a day.
[07:26] <Zi0nEl591> sudo apt-cache depends ubuntu-desktop | grep '[ |]Depends: [^<]' | cut -d: -f2 | tr -d ' ' | xargs sudo apt-get --reinstall install -y
[07:26] <Zi0nEl591> Would Fix a desktop Enviro, But Noy Trying To put desktop packages on server
[07:27] <Zi0nEl591> sudo apt-get --reinstall install base-files/bionic-updates && sudo reboot  Any Body Been Followed That and have anything To Say Bout this?
[08:09] <g105b> Hi all! Ubuntu 18.04. When I double click a .ppt or .doc, I have WPS Writer and Presentation set to launch. When I launch them, often the icon in the left-hand Gnome launcher menu thing combines with something else that is running, such as Slack. Any idea of how to fix?
[08:32] <JediMaster> Hey all, I've got Ubuntu 18.04 running on a low powered Intel HD 630 graphics (CPU & motherboard based), with dual 4k monitors. It successfully detects the HDMI 4k monitor, sets it to 4k, but only at 30 Hz (runs at 60 Hz in Windows 10), however the second monitor, connected to the displayport connector only gets detected at 1024x768 (ugh). I've got the xrandr commands to set up the second monitor, on DP, to 4k @ 60Hz, but how do I make this permanent?
[08:32] <JediMaster> Also how come there's no 150% DPI scaling, 200% is horrible, 100% is a little difficult to read
[09:44] <Elec_A> Hi, How can I find the source of this issue: https://pastebin.com/Av0My0Da There is no such a thing as "alias * off" in modprobe.d config files.
[09:47] <hashrack> i run sudo apt update and it says "1 package can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see it." i tried sudo apt upgrade but didn't upgrade anything. nor does sudo apt full-upgrade. i tried apt list --upgradable and it shows "shim-signed/bionic-updates....." how can i apply this update?
[09:48] <TJ-> hashrack: is it currently "held back" - which means other packages it depends on are not yet avaiable in the archive
[09:49] <hashrack> TJ-: oh,ok. thanks. first time encountering this
[09:50] <TJ-> hashrack: I'm guessing - you would see that message when trying to do "apt {full-,}upgrade" if so
[09:51] <hashrack> TJ-: no, it just say "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[09:52] <TJ-> hashrack: hmmm. I think you need to show us. Do "pastebinit <( lsb_release -r; apt list --upgradable; sudo apt upgrade )"
[09:56] <hashrack> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JT4frtDQWb/
[10:00] <blackflow> that bionic updates has been hanging about for a month or three now. I see it in the update popup but shows no details.
[10:02] <TJ-> hashrack: According to the big-tracker there are a lot of problems with that package currently due to dependency failures, so I suspect it may have been temporarily withdrawn from the archive
[10:02] <TJ-> grrr, bug-tracker!
[10:02] <TJ-> hashrack:  See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shim-signed/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
[10:06] <TJ-> hashrack: Seems like the problem is the latest package declares a versioned dependency on a previous version of "shim (= 13-0ubuntu2)" (that should be "shim ( = 15+1533136590.3beb971-0ubuntu1)" as far as I can tell
[10:06] <hashrack> there were a few updates with it, grub, but they we're installed. but not that one
[10:08] <hashrack> gtg
[10:08] <hashrack> TJ-: thanks
[10:44] <airwind> hello, what actions in a linux like Ubuntu will contribute to gathering system entropy?
[10:44] <airwind> some programs recommend using keyboard, mouse, other articles mention network activity, etc
[10:45] <airwind> Is this correct? What are some other factors?
[10:48] <TJ-> airwind: learn from the horses-mouth: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6550256
[10:49] <TJ-> airwind: short answer: the fast-mix pool
[10:54] <gt_> So I'm still having boot problems... Ubuntu was installed and working fine, then I LUKS encrypted my root partition in place, and created a separate unencrypted boot partition. I've tried setting grub up correctly, and grub starts, but upon selecting Ubuntu it takes a minute or so and eventually shows this error: https://i.imgur.com/LYQ6peB.jpg without prompting for the decryption password. Blkid and all the configs are here: http://termb
[10:56] <blackflow> gt_: can you repeat the second link please?
[10:57] <gt_> the second link? http://termbin.com/kq2j
[10:57] <gt_> not sure what you mean
[10:57] <blackflow> gt_: yes, that it got cut off
[10:58] <TJ-> gt_: did you re-run "update-initramfs -u" in the encrypted rootfs so it adds the required tooling to the initrd.img? Also, did you add an entry to /etc/crypttab ?
[10:59] <gt_> yes, `update-initramfs -u -k all` and `update-grub`
[10:59] <gt_> crypttab is http://termbin.com/xqwy
[11:00] <TJ-> gt_: Did you update the rootfs UUID/node reference in /etc/fstab too? In other words, does UUID d1cd53c7... exist?
[11:00] <blackflow> gt_: why did you put that cryptdevice thing in the command line? it's not needed for regular ubuntu's initramfs, are you using some other tool for it, like dracut or something?
[11:01] <blackflow> TJ-: yes UUID are correct, I checked yesterday from that list, and thta's why I'm confused why it wouldn't work. UNLESS it has something to do with EFI.
[11:02] <TJ-> gt_: blackflow Secure Boot is enabled I'm guessing (from the PKCS#7 messages)
[11:02] <gt_> TJ-: d1cd is the UUID of the filesystem inside the encrypted luks partition
[11:02] <blackflow> I don't have any special setup for root on zfs on luks. ti configured it automagically, from chroot mounted in correct order
[11:02] <TJ-> gt_: is LVM in use in the stack from raw disk to LUKS container?
[11:02] <gt_> blackflow: desperation, i set it up on arch also, wasnt sure if ubuntu needed it or not
[11:02] <gt_> no LVM, just LUKS
[11:02] <blackflow> gt_: nah I think that's for dracut
[11:03] <gt_> ok
[11:03] <blackflow> for the error you have, initramfs'  init script has no idea it has to unlock the LUKS containers before it tries root.
[11:04] <TJ-> gt_: do you have a list of what is in the initrd.img ?
[11:04] <TJ-> gt_: I'm assuming you'er manually unlocked and booted it, is that correct?
[11:04] <gt_> would that be `cat /proc/modules` from inside initramfs
[11:04] <gt_> ?
[11:04] <nisankhindia> something weird happend after recent update https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DFbtw79BfK/
[11:05] <TJ-> gt_: no, from a booted OS use "lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-$(uname -r)"
[11:05] <blackflow> gt_: you don't even get the passphrase prompt, right?
[11:05] <gt_> i've been chrooting into the partitions from a liveusb
[11:05] <gt_> no prompt, no
[11:05] <TJ-> gt_: Or even better, regnerate the initrd and capture the verbose log with "sudo update-initramfs -vu |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log"
[11:06] <TJ-> gt_: I'm guessing the cryptsetup tools, and/or the ./conf/conf.d/cryptroot file isn't there
[11:06] <gt_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/bk2u
[11:07] <blackflow> gt_: you know what I think? you're not even using the initramfs it is creating, but something left from somehwere else / before
[11:07] <gt_> strange, I completely wiped /boot earlier, including the contents of /boot/efi, and set it up from scratch
[11:08] <blackflow> yah see, no cryptsetup in that list. Are you 100% sure that's from mounted /boot?  mounted from /dev/sda3 ?  Not a remnant from before when /boot was part of root?
[11:08] <gt_> maybe the update command is updating it somewhere else, but the reinstall of the kernel is adding to the right place?
[11:08] <blackflow> gt_: mount | grep boot
[11:08] <TJ-> blackflow: that sounds plausible, and a frequent gotchya!
[11:08] <blackflow> TJ-: been burned by that a few times :)
[11:09] <gt_> that's the result of `lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-36-generic`
[11:10] <gt_> i will check it's from sda3 for sure
[11:10] <TJ-> gt_: in your current chroot, did you mount "UUID=d4579df8-2760-41f1-8249-e9638d4d209c /boot" ?
[11:11] <TJ-> gt_: when I use a chroot, from the host I bind-mount proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf and then once inside the chroot I do "mount -a" to ensure all fstab entries are correctly mounteed
[11:11] <blackflow> gt_: this is how it should look with cryptsetup available:  https://dpaste.de/Bahq
[11:12] <blackflow> gt_: but make sure it is, with a  mount | grep boot   afterwards. this doesn't seem like it is
[11:12] <gt_> initrd is definitely on sda3, i unmounted everything else
[11:14] <gt_> how I've been setting up chroot is `cryptsetup open /dev/sda7 cryptroot; mount /dev/mapper/cryptroot /mnt; mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/boot; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi; for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys; do mount --bind $i /mnt$i; done; chroot /mnt`
[11:14] <gt_> should I do something different?
[11:15] <TJ-> gt_: that's OK - although I always recommend leaving the fstab mounts to "mount -a" once inside the chroot - that ensures you can detect errors/ommissions that can fail the /bootable/ system
[11:15] <gt_> what decides whether cryptsetup gets put into initramfs?
[11:16] <blackflow> gt_: I'd use -R instead:   mount -R /dev /mnt/dev && mount -R /sys /mnt/sys && mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[11:16] <TJ-> gt_: So, in your chroot grab us a verbose update-initramfs log
[11:16] <blackflow> because there's also dev/shm you forgot (not sure if that's the culprit) and there's submounts in /sys too (cgroups and friends)
[11:16] <TJ-> gt_: as in  "update-initramfs -vu -k YOUR_VERSION |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" and then "pastebinit /tmp/initrd.log"
[11:16] <blackflow> gt_: initramfs hooks do from autodetecting layers under root
[11:17] <blackflow> gt_: oh one more thing... when you chroot, make sure /etc/mtab is correct or symlinking to /proc/self/mounts
[11:17] <blackflow> that's what's checked against for current mount data, in chroot
[11:19] <TJ-> gt_: One thing I can imagine is this: if the liveISO boot uses an oolder kernel and you do not specify which kernel version then 'update-initramfs -u' (with no -k X) would build for an older kernel that is likely not the default used by GRUB
[11:19] <blackflow> good catch!
[11:19] <TJ-> gt_: did say "-k all" was used at some point though
[11:20] <blackflow> and grub.cfg menu entry seems correct too:    initrd/initrd.img-4.15.0-36-generic      (still good idea to make 100% sure)
[11:21] <humblewolf> hi guys , trying to install ubuntu 18 in 2nd hdd, windows in 1 ssd already installed , unable to boot into ubuntu ? boot-repair report http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WMkcCHtFJK/
[11:21] <gt_> mtab is symlinked outside the chroot, should i symlink it to proc inside the chroot?
[11:22] <humblewolf> efibootmgr op is : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rhhgPJRZbq/
[11:22] <blackflow> gt_: yes, to be 100% sure. iirc in the past mtab was used instead of /proc/self/mounts  and some tools might still be using mtab instead of procfs directly
[11:23] <blackflow> gt_: but uh... it should already be linked, because in chroot, /proc is the bind-mounted proc
[11:24] <gt_> made a mistake, it's fine
[11:24] <humblewolf> any help guys
[11:24] <gt_> chrooted in with -R on /proc /dev and /sys, will get the initramfs log
[11:24] <TJ-> humblewolf: in what way does it fail? At what point? what do you (not) see ?
[11:26] <humblewolf> TJ- : first it does not show as uefi entry in firmware boot ment
[11:26] <humblewolf> menu*
[11:26] <LXV> whatsapp
[11:27] <humblewolf> TJ- : second there is an entry in legacy section of firmware boot menu which points to this hdd, if i select it there it shows no os found
[11:27] <gt_> initrd log: http://termbin.com/q6db
[11:28] <TJ-> humblewolf: if you don't see ubuntu in the PC's own boot menu then I'd guess it is related to Secure Boot options, and/or needing to manually "Trust" the grubx64.efi/shimx64.efi" files from the PC firmware Security menus
[11:29] <TJ-> gt_: "WARNING: missing /lib/modules/4.15.0-36" !!
[11:29] <humblewolf> TJ-: have u read the report ??? is it okay ??
[11:29] <gt_> i guess i ran it wrong, hang on
[11:29] <blackflow> and no crypto
[11:30] <humblewolf> TJ-: do i need to disable secure boot from firmware settings
[11:30] <TJ-> humblewolf: the bootrepair report doesn't seem to show any problems but it is easy to get lost there due to too much inconsiquential data
[11:31] <gt_> TJ-: http://termbin.com/wu3v
[11:31] <TJ-> humblewolf: Secure Boot will be fine *if* "shim-signed" package was/is installed. But if the "ubuntu" entry doesn't appear on the menu then you'll need to experiment with the firmware options
[11:31] <gt_> needed the `-generic` on the ond, didn't realize
[11:32] <gt_> surprised it even did anything
[11:32] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:32] <blackflow> gt_: still no cryptsetup
[11:32] <TJ-> gt_: Better, but still no cigar! ^^^^ as blackflow says
[11:32] <TJ-> gt_: "apt install --reinstall cryptsetup"
[11:32] <gt_> at least it's narrowed down the issue now
[11:33] <blackflow> TJ-: yeah, all this time I forgot to ask if crypsetup is even installed in the chroot (assuming it's there because the countainer is mounting, so....)  lol.
[11:33] <nisankhindia> can anybody explain what does it means https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SXxStpgPX5/
[11:33] <TJ-> blackflow: indeed :)
[11:33] <gt_> cryptsetup isn't installed in the chroot, that makes a lot of sense
[11:33] <humblewolf> TJ-: okay let me play with firmware settings, one more thing the efi partition has only 4 mb space usage , is it okay ???
[11:34] <TJ-> gt_: Doh!
[11:34] <blackflow> there you go :)))
[11:34] <TJ-> humblewolf: yes, it doesn't need much
[11:35] <TJ-> humblewolf: bootrepair shows "/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi" so Ubuntu is installed to work with Secure Boot - so I'm betting there is a "trust" option in the firmware Security setup
[11:37] <humblewolf> TJ-: okay one more thing , which bootloader will be fired up , sda2 or sdb1
[11:39] <TJ-> humblewolf: whichever is referenced in the firmware boot menu config. You can see in that efibootmgr shows "Boot0002* ubuntu HD(1,GPT,496e633e-35ce-4c57-ab1d-7c20b02ae10c,0x800,0x113000)/File(\EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi)" ( "HD 1" as opposed to "HD 2" for Windows) suggests different devices
[11:41] <gt_> blackflow: TJ-: brilliant, boots up fine(ish) now!
[11:41] <humblewolf> TJ-: it means my ssd is hd2
[11:42] <gt_> ish being it's also in read-only mode
[11:42] <gt_> so I guess have to change grub config?
[11:42] <blackflow> gt_: thank TJ, he thought of it. I totally forgot to ask.
[11:42] <TJ-> gt_: in what way?
[11:42] <TJ-> gt_: you're not using an encrypted /boot/ so GRUB shouldn't need any changes
[11:43] <gt_> terminal complains that it's a read only file system when it tries to do anything in the booted up system
[11:44] <gt_> i noted there was "ro" in the grub.cfg but on my working machine it is "rw"
[11:44] <humblewolf> TJ-: one more thing , when does shimx64.efi comes into picture, ? bro i'm new to this bootloading thing
[11:44] <humblewolf> TJ-: sorry for asking noob questions
[11:45] <blackflow> gt_: ro is for initramfs. once pivoted, root is mounted normally
[11:45] <gt_> or would it be to do with fstab?
[11:45] <blackflow> gt_: possibly, can you pastebin it again, I lost the link
[11:45] <TJ-> humblewolf: for Secure Boot, since it is signed by Microsoft's CA cert. It contains the Canonical/Ubuntu public key, which is used to sign the kernel etc. So it goes UEFI > shimx64.efi > grubx64.efi > vmlinuz-$VERSION ...
[11:45] <gt_> http://termbin.com/cj7i3
[11:46] <blackflow> gt_: no that's errors=remount-ro, which is normal. so, do you ahve some major error there?  can you `mount -o remount,rw /`  ?
[11:46] <humblewolf> TJ-: okay got it , thanks bro
[11:46] <gt_> ah, was in the process of rebooting into chroot again
[11:47] <gt_> can i do all this from the normal system i.e. not liveusb?
[11:47] <blackflow> gt_: should be possible yes
[11:47] <blackflow> gt_: pastebin just `mount` from the booted system
[11:50] <gt_> seemed like disk needed "fsck"ing on reboot
[11:50] <gt_> i guess that was the error
[11:50] <blackflow> gt_: excellent!
[11:51] <ylel9> hello
[11:52] <gt_> all working! thanks so much!
[11:54] <ph88> anyone know a dummy command that needs sudo privileges ?
[11:54] <TJ-> ph88: any command can be run under sudo
[11:55] <Khaotic> TJ-, what's the link to your blog to change the grub entry for windows 2015 or whatever?
[11:55] <TJ-> Khaotic: for acpi_osi ?
[11:55] <ph88> can != need
[11:55] <Khaotic> yuip
[11:55] <TJ-> Khaotic:  this > http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[11:55] <TJ-> ph88: "sudo uname -a" maybe ?
[11:55] <Khaotic> that's it. thanks!!!
[11:56] <Khaotic> grub updated and i need to readd it i think
[11:56] <ph88> TJ-, uname -a does not need sudo rights to execute
[11:56] <TJ-> Khaotic: in theory if you added it to /etc/default/grub then there's nothing more you need to do
[11:56] <kraiskil> ph88 'ls /root'
[11:56] <ph88> ah thx
[11:57] <kraiskil> I once ran 'rm -rf /lib' - I felt like a dummy :)
[11:57] <Khaotic> you're right
[11:57] <Khaotic> it didnt change
[11:57] <TJ-> kraiskil: not as much as the system did :)
[11:57] <Khaotic> just wanted to be on the safe side
[11:59] <TJ-> kraiskil: I once dealt with a server where the admin did that... it was surprisingly easy to repair
[12:00] <kraiskil> yup. but it does give a scare though.
[12:19] <Atlantic778> Hi! I have a very strange problem after kernel upgrade/system update/tweaking thermal settings. The problem is related to unresponsive gui, but it happens only with Xorg, and everything seems to be fine with wayland.
[12:20] <Atlantic778> I'm using integrated intel gpu. Tried reboot, previous kernel, disabling the thermal tweak but still no clue what's going on.
[12:21] <Atlantic778> RAM, CPU and the rest looks fine. The dmesg logs as well look fine. Any suggestions what to check next?
[12:21] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: can you provide us your ubuntu version/kernel please
[12:22] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: ubuntu 18.04, currently booted kernel is 4.15.0-36-generic
[12:22] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: did it work on .35?
[12:22] <Atlantic778> This is the new one, the previous one is -34. I don't have any other kernels installed.
[12:23] <Atlantic778> And I can't recall which one was booted when it was working.
[12:23] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: can you test it on 34 for example?
[12:24] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: I did test with 34, didn't help.
[12:24] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: so we can closeout kernel issue right
[12:24] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: what exactly did you tweak about thermal?
[12:24] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: I think so. I suspect it's X.
[12:25] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: the thermal fix is related to the problem with recent lenovo machines. It's this solution  https://github.com/erpalma/lenovo-throttling-fix
[12:26] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: effectively, it sets new values in the msr registers. If this is disabled / removed, everything should go back to normal after reboot. I can confirm that msr registers are set with this solution and they have the old values when I disable it.
[12:26] <Atlantic778> The old (original) vlue being 20, and the new one 5.
[12:26] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: before playing with the git, did you notice lenovo firmware updates from gnome-software?
[12:27] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: yes, I did, I have updated to the most recent BIOS for my machine and it fixed some problems (deep sleep for example).
[12:27] <Atlantic778> My current BIOS version for thinkpad x1c6 is 1.30
[12:28] <Atlantic778> BIOS/firmware whatever it's called these days. I did the update using fwupdmgr.
[12:28] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: you said this occured after updates, in wich stage did you have it working?
[12:29] <TJ-> Atlantic778: at which point is the GUI unresponsive? Login greeter, immediately after log-in, after some time or particular action?
[12:30] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: and your graphics card chipset/driver version might be relevant too for us
[12:32] <Atlantic778> Everything worked fine after the firmware upgrade for couple of weeks. Today I did system update (it was just 4 packages, can recall which ones, nothing serious). I wasn't sure if I rebooted after the last kernel update so I rebooted the laptop just to be sure.
[12:32] <Atlantic778> Before the reboot, I applied the thermal fix, and also wasn't sure if it was working, but GUI was responsive at the time.
[12:34] <Atlantic778> TJ-: the GUI seems to be responsive on the login screen. Once I start the regular session, after login, the cursor is responsive as before, but GUI doesn't respond quickly to clicks, and or to keyboard (for instance openning the terminal). Also, typing in the terminal is slow, but I would say that it is just graphics related.
[12:34] <Atlantic778> when I type in "sudo reboot" followed by the password, the command is not yet visible in the terminal, but the laptop will reboot instantly
[12:35] <Atlantic778> Also, this doesn't happen when I start ubuntu wayland session, which I am running now.
[12:35] <TJ-> Atlantic778: OK, so we have a chance of gathering logs whilst the issue is active. So, I'd suggest looking at $HOME/.xsession-errors (or copying that file somewhere safe) whilst a problem GUI session is active
[12:35] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: which numbers specifically would be helpful? I am not sure.
[12:35] <TJ-> Atlantic778: that file is recreated on each log-in so you need to copy it to preserve it
[12:37] <Atlantic778> TJ-: alright, let me reconnect from other machine and get the log. be right back.
[12:37] <Atlantic778> Thank you for your support! :)
[12:47] <Atlantic778> well, I don't have the ~/.xession_errors file
[12:48] <Atlantic778> I have just rebooted it nad started an X session, I can connect to it through ssh but I don't have such file, or any similar
[12:50] <sukram_184> Hello
[12:51] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: sorry, can you tell me how to check graphics driver version?
[12:52] <Atlantic778> If it is the xserver-xorg-video-intel, then the version is 2:2.99.917+git20171229-1
[12:53] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: sudo lshw -C video
[12:54] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rb8cYzrPMG/
[12:56] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: ok tnx intel driver loaded
[12:57] <lotus|NUC> Atlantic778: was this a clean install or an upgrade from another version?
[12:57] <Atlantic778> lotus|NUC: clean install
[12:58] <Rich03> Hi i am new to IRC, and i hope i am in the right place i could really do with some help regarding a canon LBP2900 Printer and Ubuntu 18.04 64 Bit.
[12:58] <TJ-> Atlantic778: did you mistype? It's $HOME/.xsession-errors
[12:59] <Atlantic778> TJ-: there is only .xinputrc, no other files starting with .x, capital or xmall x.
[12:59] <Atlantic778> TJ-: I have checked with ls -a
[13:01] <TJ-> !info printer-driver-cjet | Rich03 Have you tried installing
[13:02] <TJ-> Atlantic778: and it is definitely an X session? That is strange. Has the disk run out of space "df -h" ?
[13:03] <Rich03> Hi TJ it requires the CAPT driver from cannon, can i go ahead and tell you what i have already tried im not sure if this is a wait your turn kind of chat.
[13:03] <TJ-> Rich03: did you install printer-driver-cjet ?
[13:04] <blackflow> Rich03: it's not, you can post whenever you want, but try to give all the info in as few lines as possible, use a !pastebin for multiline texts, and have patience to wait until someone responds, or you can re-ping your question after a while (dunno, 15-20 minutes?) if nobody does.
[13:05] <Atlantic778> TJ-: well, on the login screen I have two choices "ubuntu" and "ubuntu wayland". The first one doesn't work properly an the second one does.
[13:06] <Atlantic778> TJ-: is there some reliable way to check? I tried with ps aux | grep -i xorg, and I see this
[13:06] <Atlantic778> /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg vt2 -displayfd 3 -auth /run/user/1000/gdm/Xauthority -background none -noreset -keeptty -verbose 3
[13:07] <Atlantic778> But there is also this process: /usr/bin/Xwayland :1024 -rootless -terminate -accessx -core -listen 4 -listen 5 -displayfd 6
[13:08] <TJ-> Atlantic778: hmmm, I'm not entirely sure! I don't use gnome or wayland. Maybe lotus|NUC or someone else is more familiar with that side
[13:11] <Rich03> I have followed tutorials from askubuntu and cannon themselves they tell you to install the cndrvcups-common and cndrvcups-capt drivers from their site, which i have done. Then add the printer with lpadmin -p LBP2900 -m CNCUPSLBP2900CAPTK.ppd -v ccp://localhost:59787, and then register it in the ccpd daemon with ccpdadmin -p LBP2900 -o /dev/usb/lp0. I have followed multiple tutorials all with the same result printer installs shows its there i can click
[13:11] <Rich03> print it says its processing and nothing ever come out.
[13:12] <howarthjw> Anyone on a GTX 680 video card?
[13:12] <pragmaticenigma> howarthjw: Please ask your support question, if someone has a potential solution, they will respond
[13:12] <Atlantic778> TJ-: I have just tried with i3, and it works fine. It looks like it must be gnome + xorg related.
[13:13] <Rich03> I am looking at TJ's suggestion on printer-driver-cjet i will let you know how it goes.
[13:13] <howarthjw> I would very interested to know if they can boot into runlevel 3 with ‘rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau 3' appended to their kernel options
[13:14] <TJ-> Rich03: have you tried using the CUPS local web-admin to configure / test the printer? ( http://localhost:631 )
[13:14] <howarthjw> On a 2008 MacPro with a Mac ROM'ed GTX680, I am seeing no console text if I disable the nouveau drive in the kernel
[13:15] <howarthjw> this is really surprising as I thought all graphic cards had minimal frame buffer driver support
[13:16] <howarthjw> Or do they really need the dedicated nouveau or nvidia drivers in the kernel?
[13:16] <howarthjw> https://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2015/fedora-nvidia-guide/ seems to claim that this isn't the case
[13:17] <pragmaticenigma> howarthjw: Comparing Ubuntu to Fedora isn't going to give you an accurate answer. They are different in their setups that what is true in one, will not always carry over to the other.
[13:17] <howarthjw> well this is a very generic question
[13:17] <TJ-> howarthjw: in the absense of the nouveau/nvidia drivers I'd have expected the vesa driver to be available
[13:17] <howarthjw> can ubuntu on a Kepler card boot from the frame buffer driver
[13:18] <howarthjw> okay vesa
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> howarthjw: Given that the card has been flashed with a specific MacOS compitible rom, it is possible that the VESA drivers aren't compatible or Ubuntu us defaulting to an onboard graphics chipset instead?
[13:18] <howarthjw> Windows 10 has no issues
[13:18] <pragmaticenigma> howarthjw: Again, apples and oranges... Windows is a completely different archetecture from Ubunt
[13:18] <howarthjw> neither does nouveau
[13:19] <TJ-> howarthjw: are you saying this lack of console is when using the nvidia driver? if so that is expected, it even prints a warning in the kernel log about that
[13:20] <howarthjw> doesm
[13:20] <howarthjw> doesn't look like there are many knobs to twist on vesa
[13:20] <TJ-> howarthjw: usually its something like "NVRM: Your system is not currently configured to drive a VGA console"
[13:21] <Rich03> TJ: The CUPS local webmin says ... Idle - "ccp send_data error, exit"
[13:22] <TJ-> Rich03: it sounds like a Canon specific problem with their driver; you'd need to contact Canon I think.
[13:23] <Atlantic778> TJ-: lotus|NUC hm, this is interesting. It looks like it is related to powersaving. When I start glxgears in the xorg session everything suddenly wents back to normal, until I close the glxgears.
[13:23] <bailroc> crazy hearing about someone having video card issues still with xorg
[13:23] <TJ-> Atlantic778: in firmware setup, is "C3E" enabled? That can often cause problems
[13:24] <pragmaticenigma> bailroc: Please try to stay on topic. If you are not assisting someone, please refrain from adding commentary.
[13:24] <Atlantic778> TJ-: I'm not sure what that means. Can you give some additional hints?
[13:25] <TJ-> Atlantic778: C3E is the Enhanced C3 power state; known to cause problems on some systems. It's one possible avenue to explore (set in the PC firmware setup screens)
[13:26] <TJ-> Atlantic778: as the issue seems to have happened after an upgrade it's unlikey though
[13:26] <Atlantic778> TJ-: this thing? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(Gen_6)#Enabling_S3
[13:26] <TJ-> Atlantic778: the other test you should do is create a new user account and log-in to that, see if that also suffers the same problem. if it does not that points to a user-specific config issue
[13:26] <Atlantic778> TJ-: did that with new user, nothing changed.
[13:27] <TJ-> Atlantic778: no, not S3; I'm talking about C3E
[13:27] <howarthjw> sigh, the vesafb documentation is rather stale (2010) and totally omits any reference to nvidia cards
[13:27] <Atlantic778> TJ-: ok, let me check the C3E
[13:28] <TJ-> howarthjw: an additional wrinkle may be if the system boots using the efifb if it is doing an EFI boot
[13:28] <TJ-> howarthjw: best thing to do is read the kernel log (via 'dmesg' )
[13:28] <howarthjw> I don't get that far
[13:28] <howarthjw> well maybe
[13:29] <howarthjw> I'll have to double check
[13:29] <howarthjw> surprised there isn't any ready examples on the web of a generic mode setting line for vesafb
[13:29] <howarthjw> to get a really generic 640x480
[13:30] <TJ-> howarthjw: is openssh-server installed so you can remote in to grab the log
[13:30] <howarthjw> http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/boot-options.html looks promising
[13:31] <howarthjw> video=conn:res[M][R][-bpp][@refresh][i][m][eDd]
[13:31] <TJ-> howarthjw: it might help to set GRUB to use "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" in /etc/default/grub to prevent the bootloader putting the system into a non-text mode
[13:38] <nisankhindia> i am not able to change the ethernet speed from 10Mb/s , duplex half to 1000mb/s , duplex full
[13:39] <ZeZu> new updates broke nvidia drivers again?
[13:39] <nisankhindia> tried ethtool -s DEV speed 1000 duplex full autoneg on , but still no changes
[13:39] <ZeZu> [     5.584] (EE) [drm] Failed to open DRM device for pci:0000:01:00.0: -19
[13:39] <ZeZu> [     5.584] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[13:40] <flask-> I have a couple questions related to the coexistence of ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop on a single PC.  I originally installed the system from the Kubuntu ISO but ultimately installed ubuntu-desktop via APT and I've been using that happily for several months. Today after running an 'apt upgrade' and rebooting, my Ubuntu desktop is no longer defaulting to Nautilus when I double-click the folder icons on my desktop, instead they're open
[13:40] <flask-> ing in Dolphin.  I'd like to remove all traces of KDE from my system and get Nautilus back to the default file manager. Can someone help?
[13:41] <TJ-> ZeZu: check if the nvidia driver is built/installed for the current kernel version with "uname -r; dkms status"
[13:41] <VladTheImplier> Hey all! My awk/sed lingo falls flat: I'd like to switch 2 Numbers in a file name: 7-23-9.jpg -> 7-9-23.jpg How would I go about this?
[13:42] <TJ-> flask-: that sounds like a local -per-user config change for the default file manager handler
[13:42] <TJ-> VladTheImplier: on the file system, or in a stream/file that contains filenames?
[13:42] <flask-> TJ-: any idea where that might be or why it would have spontaneously changed on me?
[13:42] <VladTheImplier> TJ: On the filesystem
[13:43] <VladTheImplier> TJ so some awk magick piping into mv
[13:43] <ZeZu> even switching to open driver didn't help, wtf
[13:44] <TJ-> VladTheImplier: you might find "file-rename" useful; it takes Perl RegExps. See "man file-rename"
[13:47] <VladTheImplier> TJ-: How would I even go about expressing a switch with RegEx?
[13:48] <TJ-> VladTheImplier: " rename 's/(.+)-(.+)-(.+)(.jpg)/$1-$3-$2$4/' 7-23-9.jpg "
[13:48] <nisankhindia> flask-: read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DefaultFileManager .. any confusion revert back to irc
[13:49] <VladTheImplier> Ok thanks
[13:49] <TJ-> VladTheImplier: see how I just swapped the order of the matches ?
[13:51] <VladTheImplier> TJ-: Holy Shit! Many thanks!
[13:51] <VladTheImplier> TJ-: I'll go and figure out how it works :D   it seems like pure magick
[13:53] <Rich03> TJ: Yep looks like ill have to try get some help from canon, thanks anyway.
[13:53] <TJ-> VladTheImplier: the regular expression "(.+)-(.+)-(.+)(.jpg)" captures 'groups' dot "." matches any character. "+" is a non-greedy match of 0 or more of the previous character. Therefore each "(.+) matches up to the next "-". We capture three groups ($1, $2, $3) and then the file suffix ".jpg" as $4. Then in the replacement we swap the order of $2 and $3
[13:55] <nisankhindia> flask-: whats the out put of " cat /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop "
[13:57] <TJ-> flask-: nisankhindia how about "xdg-settings --list"
[13:58] <nisankhindia> TJ: can get the seetings from DE , can do that also
[13:59] <TJ-> flask-: nisankhindia also this might be better: "xdg-mime query default text/directory"
[14:00] <TJ-> nisankhindia: much easier to give shell commands than describe how to navigate a GUI and need to relay what is seen
[14:01] <nisankhindia> TJ: iam confiming the situuation so that user can do automated way , not any manual method
[14:02] <A1Recon> I am having problems with xrandr. It can't detect my video outputs (Usually they are LVDS-1 and VGA-1, if VGA is plugged in). The error I get is this:
[14:02] <A1Recon> "xrandr failed to get size of gamma for output default ubuntu"
[14:03] <TJ-> flask-: this might be even better: "xdg-mime query default inode/directory"
[14:03] <TJ-> A1Recon: Are you sure the desktop session is using Xorg and not Wayland?
[14:04]  * ZeZu sighs
[14:04] <ZeZu> linux is getting worse imo
[14:04] <TJ-> A1Recon: "echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE"
[14:04] <A1Recon> TJ : It's a Ubuntu 16.04 system with just i3-wm added on top of it.
[14:04] <ZeZu> you can't update w.o something breaking half the time
[14:05] <TJ-> A1Recon: OK ao is 'xrandr -q' reporting anything, or nothing at all?
[14:05] <A1Recon> TJ: The output for that is "x11"
[14:05] <A1Recon> that == echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[14:06] <TJ-> A1Recon: yeah, I figured that out :)
[14:07] <A1Recon> TJ: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gZBJpWc3hq/
[14:09] <TJ-> A1Recon: As the GPU outputs are not listed by name I'm going to guess that the GPU driver hasn't loaded properly and it has fallen back to some safe mode. check the Xorg log file ( /var/log/Xorg.0.log )
[14:10] <ZeZu> | grep EE
[14:11] <ZeZu> If you just updated, and using nvidia drivers you're prob in same boat as me :P
[14:12] <TJ-> ZeZu: you still didn't confirm what the results of the command I suggested 1/2 hour ago are
[14:12] <ZeZu> I'm confused as to how the binary  driver and the gpl driver are both having the same problem ... it's drm related
[14:12] <ZeZu> TJ-: i prob didn't see them,  konversation doesn't give me a back log from my znc properly
[14:12] <TJ-> ZeZu: if nvidia is installed, nouveau is blacklisted, which would explain that
[14:12] <ZeZu> I've rebooted numerous times, sorry?
[14:13] <TJ-> ZeZu: check if the nvidia driver is built/installed for the current kernel version with "uname -r; dkms status"
[14:13] <A1Recon> TJ: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JWcV4cjSSn/
[14:13] <ZeZu> nvidia, 390.77, 4.15.0-36-generic, x86_64: installed
[14:13] <ZeZu> and i had purged nvidia fully before switching back
[14:14] <ZeZu> and then readded nvidia binary,  and it worked again for a single reboot but second monitor wouldnt' work ... then same issue after reboot
[14:14] <ZeZu> very weird
[14:14] <A1Recon> TJ: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZkzdhQYsdS/  << This is the output of xrandr when everything was working fine and i had connected LVDS-1 and VGA-1
[14:15] <ZeZu> A1Recon: [    23.981] (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied
[14:15] <TJ-> A1Recon: the issue looks like it's caused by "(EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied"
[14:16] <TJ-> A1Recon: the GPU is Intel so I doubt this is caused by nvidia drivers *unless* it's an nvidia-prime system with iGPU+discrete GPU
[14:16] <TJ-> A1Recon: show us "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[14:18] <ZeZu>  drm is failing to find card0 for both of us on new update...
[14:19] <ZeZu> Oddly: it's not the kernel, as I boot prev kernel
[14:19] <A1Recon> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JR5HcTbqQk/
[14:19] <TJ-> ZeZu: what does the 'dmesg' kern.log look like when it fails. Might be some clues from the nvidia driver
[14:19] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: how you have installed the drivers for the hardware , using ubuntu repsoitory or using source
[14:20] <TJ-> A1Recon: yes that system has dual GPUs, the other is "01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 630M] [10de:0de9] (rev ff)"
[14:20] <ZeZu> There is nothing in dmesg
[14:20] <ZeZu> nothing useful
[14:20] <ZeZu> only the DRM fail in Xorg.log.0
[14:20] <TJ-> A1Recon: please show us "apt list --installed nvidia*; uname -r; dkms status )"
[14:21] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: Using software and updates center  > External 3rd party softwares?
[14:21] <TJ-> A1Recon: we can determine the archive/repo used once we know what package is in use
[14:22] <A1Recon> how do i know which package is in use?
[14:22] <TJ-> A1Recon: please show us "pastebinit <( apt list --installed nvidia*; uname -r; dkms status )"
[14:24] <A1Recon> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GQJRjS8d3b/
[14:24] <TJ-> ZeZu: which OS release and kernel is on your system?
[14:24] <ZeZu> Does driver manager not remove the blacklist switching back to nouveau ?   and is it in it's normal spot ?
[14:24] <ZeZu> bionic 4.15.0-36-generic
[14:25] <TJ-> ZeZu: so far as I understand, the nvidia .prerm or .postrm script should be doing that
[14:26] <TJ-> ZeZu: is your system an iGPU/discrete GPU too? If so you may be correct that A1Recon's issue is related to yours
[14:26] <ZeZu> nope
[14:26] <TJ-> A1Recon: please show us "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[14:26] <ZeZu> If his is igpu
[14:26] <ZeZu> and the monitor he's using is on the intel port
[14:26] <TJ-> ZeZu: his is intel+nvidia
[14:27] <ZeZu> then he needs to check his bios settings too
[14:27] <ZeZu> IE:  mine 'has' an intel chipset,  but iGPU is disabled ... with a laptop they are usually a frankenstein combo tho
[14:28] <ZeZu> Linux usually figures it out and by default it's enabled in bios tho
[14:28] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: list all available drivers and paste the output " sudo ubuntu-drivers list "
[14:28] <A1Recon> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vfPfKJsVZK/
[14:29] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: than we will move to next steps , proper driver and module than setting up the nvidia - intel dual Graphics settings in system
[14:30] <MacroMan> I've got an error from apt when updating grub-pc: https://paste.ngx.cc/785459358a4b6636
[14:30] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sYc9cjQKsN/
[14:30] <MacroMan> I also got a terminal dialog saying that my computer may fail to boot (This is a remote server, so I can't risk anything)
[14:31] <A1Recon> TJ-: ^
[14:31] <MacroMan> Can anyone let me know if the error I've received will actually be a problem or not?
[14:32] <TJ-> A1Recon: that is interesting; the nvidia driver loads fine, the intel driver loads fine, bbswitch disables the intel so nvidia is the primary GPU.
[14:32] <ZeZu> brbbrb
[14:32] <compdoc> never seen errors about embedding
[14:32] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: lets go lammers way from the beginning again . use this " sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall  "
[14:33] <TJ-> A1Recon: sorry, I mistyped. bbswitch disables the discrete (nvidia) GPU
[14:34] <ZeZu> Is that the new vgaswitcheroo lol
[14:34] <A1Recon> TJ-: Isn't there something called NVidia Prime which allows to set which gpu to use between intel/nvidia ? I had set that to inel back when i was using Unity. Could this be because of that?
[14:34] <ZeZu> optimus
[14:34] <TJ-> MacroMan: oh that is easy! someone has previously used debconf to set the default GRUB install device incorrectly as a partition, rather than a raw disk. do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" and you should be able to see what was selected, and change it to the correct raw disk
[14:35] <TJ-> A1Recon: on your system you've got bbswitch (BumbleBee)
[14:35] <MacroMan> TJ-: Ah, it was selected for all partitions. No wonder there was an error.
[14:35] <MacroMan> Thank you
[14:36] <TJ-> A1Recon: it's possible the prime change is related, yes. I've always stayed away from those hybrid systems so not personally familiar with it
[14:37] <MacroMan> TJ-: How should it be set when I have a RAID0? On the raid mount point itself?
[14:37] <TJ-> MacroMan: if it is a RAID-1 mdadm mirror then you can select each raw disk that is part of the mirror (assuming the entire disks are mirrored, not just partitions)
[14:37] <ZeZu>  xrandr --setprovideroutputsource modesetting NVIDIA-0
[14:37] <A1Recon> TJ-: Also keep in mind that this problem(xrandr gamma not detected) doesn't happen all the time. But once it happens there's a good chance that it will only be solved if i restart the system.
[14:38] <TJ-> MacroMan: on the /dev/mdX device *if* the RAID covers then entire physical drive. If not, the underlying /dev/sdX
[14:38] <ZeZu> I think xrandr just says that if it's not connected to the driver
[14:38] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: Check What Graphics Card You’ve Got : lspci -k | grep -A 2 -i "VGA" , Check What Graphics Card You Laptop is Using : system-settings - details , Install Nvidia Graphics Card Driver : software & updates window. Click the Additional Drivers tab. You can see what driver is being used for Nvidia card (Nouveau by default) and a list of proprietary drivers. . run command : nvidia-settings
[14:38] <MacroMan> TJ-: It was on /dev/md0 that it complained.
[14:38] <TJ-> A1Recon: from the 'dmesg' output (at the end ) it shows the nvidia driver unloading because bbswitch is disabling the discrete GPU - that is likely the problem
[14:39] <TJ-> MacroMan: ahhh, so go for the underlying boot disk then. If you cannot identify it immediately Ctrl+C out and identify it by looking at the partition/boot layout/config
[14:39] <nisankhindia> A1recond: select the GPU you would like to use ( if you are using unity )
[14:39] <MacroMan> OK, I've got it now. Thank you
[14:40] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: $ pastebinit  <(lspci -k | grep -A 2 -i "VGA") http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ByMgDW8ZQ4/
[14:40] <TJ-> A1Recon: excuse me whilst i take delivery of a lorry load of Sheep :)
[14:41] <nisankhindia> A1recon: open terminal and type command : nvidia-settings
[14:41] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: open terminal and type command : nvidia-settings
[14:41] <A1Recon> guys i need to go outside for 30 minutes....its a medical emergency. Sorry. If you can hold on for 30 minutes. i will do that "nvidia-settings"
[14:43] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: it runs the NVIDIA x server
[14:43] <A1Recon> what info do you want from there?
[14:43] <nisankhindia> Nvidia X Server Settings from Unity Dash. Alternatively, you can issue this command to open it.  nvidia-settings , select Intel : sudo prime-select intel
[14:44] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: switch to nvidia at any time command sudo prime-select nvidia / swicth to intel at anytime sudo prime-select intel
[14:44] <ZeZu> If the driver didn't load,  he may not have those options
[14:44] <ZeZu> I only had general info and profiles
[14:46] <TJ-> ZeZu: have you solved your issue ?
[14:46] <ZeZu> More sidestepped it,  got nouveau working
[14:47] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: TJ-: What should i do now? Should i remove bumblebee (bbswitch) since that might be causing the problem ?
[14:49] <dwigton> Any idea where I can find the color values for the gnome terminal white-on-black theme? I want to use the same scheme on tty.
[14:50] <TJ-> A1Recon: not a good idea to blindly remove things. Better to identify the cas
[14:50] <TJ-> A1Recon: ... the cause and solve it
[14:50] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: if you think so depending upon your system situation than please report a bug over here https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues
[14:52] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: according to some details available in bumblebee developers talk and discussion when using Nouveau you don't need bumblebee
[14:52] <ZeZu> I thought he was using nvidia*
[14:52] <ZeZu> which is why he has the same drm/card0 not found,  drm/card1 can't open error
[14:52] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: directly copy paste what they saying :: If you remove Bumblebee and install nouveau, you can make applications render on the Nvidia GPU by enabling PRIME. Can for example be done with:  DRI_PRIME=1 glxgears  That has less overhead than "optirun glxgears", technically it works in a completely different way. This "PRIME" rendering method is however not available with the Nvidia driver (Nvidia proprietary driver only displa
[14:52] <TJ-> A1Recon: lets check what is installed for the switcher: "pastebinit <( apt list --installed bumblebe* bbswitch* )"
[14:53] <glitchd> trying to setup a particular sudo command to run without having to enter a password for it, but even after using "sudo visudo" and adding the command in the correct format, its still asking for a password. i had this setup and working perfectly in 16.04. and i made the exact same changes in this install of 18.04, but just cant get it to work. any advice?
[14:54] <A1Recon> TJ-: $ pastebinit <( apt list --installed bumblebe* bbswitch* )  WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HcfWwYxKqs/
[14:54] <blackflow> glitchd: pastebin the sudoers line?
[14:54] <glitchd> blackflow, sure 1 sec
[14:54] <TJ-> A1Recon: the core of your issue is, I think, "bbswitch: disabling discrete graphics" from dmesg
[14:55] <glitchd> blackflow, https://pastebin.com/cK8AkiC5
[14:56] <TJ-> nisankhindia: do you know if the "bumblebee" package is *required* ? its contents look likely, but A1Recon doesn't have it
[14:56] <nisankhindia> TJ: i have pasted the peice of IRC chat that bubblebee team told me
[14:57] <blackflow> glitchd: is there exempt_group set in sudoers? are you member of that group?
[14:57] <TJ-> A1Recon: show us "grep -E 'Remove|Purge' /var/log/apt/history.log"
[14:57] <A1Recon> i have googled about this problem. Couldn't find much on Ubuntu 16.04. Found a guy with linuxmint and ATI Radeon GPU having the same problem that was solved.
[14:58] <TJ-> A1Recon: ^^ wrap that in pastebinit <( ... )
[14:59] <glitchd_> trying to setup a particular sudo command to run without having to enter a password for it, but even after using "sudo visudo" and adding the command in the correct format, its still asking for a password. i had this setup and working perfectly in 16.04. and i made the exact same changes in this install of 18.04, but just cant get it to work. any advice?
[14:59] <A1Recon> TJ-: No matches for that command. So no output.
[15:00] <EriC^^> glitchd_: can you run 'readlink -f $(which upd)' ?
[15:00] <blackflow> glitchd: is there exempt_group set in sudoers? are you member of that group?
[15:01] <glitchd_> EriC^^, 'readlink -f $(which upd)'
[15:01] <glitchd_> readlink -f $(which upd): command not found
[15:01] <glitchd_> glitchd@probook:~$
[15:03] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: what this says sudo systemd status nvidia-fallback
[15:06] <evilytwisted> i know this question isnt exactly ubuntu specific but i get my repos from ubuntu, im on linuxmint 19, whenever i do sudo apt-get install X i see Get:91 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/universe i386 libvulkan1 i386 1.1.70+dfsg1-1 [99.5 kB]
[15:06] <evilytwisted>  why bionic? i thought ubuntu was canocal or something
[15:06] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[15:06] <TJ-> A1Recon: nisankhindia I've been digging deeper. the "(EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied" is caused by an ABI mis-match in the nvidia driver vs the xorg server.
[15:06] <A1Recon> i was using pastebinit
[15:07] <TJ-> A1Recon: so... let's see what packages have been upgraded recently: "pastebinit <( tail -n 500 /var/log/apt/history.log )"
[15:07] <glitchd_> blackflow, i have no idea
[15:07] <nisankhindia> But i think ARecon is using unity ... and i am just carrying information to nvidia developer IRC chat room
[15:07] <blackflow> glitchd_: apparently, it is important WHERE in the sudoers file the line is. add below %sudo definition
[15:07] <blackflow> sudo sucks
[15:09] <A1Recon> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TQQTSgN7DV/
[15:10] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: $ sudo systemd status nvidia-fallback Excess arguments.
[15:10] <TJ-> A1Recon: nisankhindia How about an apparmor issue? it could be blocking access
[15:10] <glitchd_> blackflow, ughh....now there is an error and i cant figure out where the error is
[15:10] <blackflow> glitchd_: ideally, add that to a standalone file in sudoers.d, chmod it 444 it'll work
[15:10] <blackflow> glitchd_: did you use visudo?
[15:11] <glitchd_> blackflow, yes
[15:11] <TJ-> A1Recon: can you show us "pastebinit <( grep apparmor /var/log/kern.log )"
[15:11] <blackflow> then what error is it?
[15:11] <blackflow> glitchd_: then what error is it?
[15:11] <TJ-> glitchd_: can you show us the line added to sudoers?
[15:11] <glitchd_> blackflow, its saying there is an error on line 29 and 31
[15:11] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: check if your nvidia package is : nvidia-driver-390
[15:11] <blackflow> glitchd_: oh visudo does?
[15:11] <glitchd_> TJ-, i just removed the line in an attempt to fix the sudoers file
[15:11] <blackflow> it won't commit sudoers file if there are errors
[15:11] <tomreyn> !mint | evilytwisted
[15:12] <qwebirc22283> Greetings, My rail/app on Freerdp recently broke when it updated to 2.0.0-dev4; can anyone help me in reverting to 2.0.0-rc2?
[15:12] <nisankhindia> A1Recon : if so than as Ubuntu launchpad details it requires few changes in configuration to work with
[15:12] <TJ-> nisankhindia: A1Recon it is nvidia-384, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GQJRjS8d3b/
[15:12] <A1Recon> TJ-: One thing that i have noticed is if i don't get the list of "[OK] xyz started " during startup then i encounter this xrandr problem
[15:12] <glitchd_> blackflow, yes, when i attempt to close the sudo file it tells me there is an error on lines 29 and 32
[15:12] <evilytwisted> YES im aware of that tomreyn  thats why i asked a very specific question.
[15:12] <evilytwisted> i thought ubuntu was canocal or however its spelled
[15:12] <evilytwisted> not bionic.
[15:12] <blackflow> glitchd_: right, it won't allow you to commit a faulty file. what's on line 29?
[15:12] <tomreyn> evilytwisted: my point is you're asking in the wrong place if you're not using ubuntu. we support ubuntu users.
[15:13] <glitchd_> blackflow, here is my whole sudoers filehttps://pastebin.com/Lt8zcVwr
[15:13] <glitchd_> blackflow, https://pastebin.com/Lt8zcVwr
[15:13] <blackflow> glitchd_: yah that line 29 is wrong
[15:13] <evilytwisted> Yes i get that, and i understand that. thats again WHY I asked a very specific question about UBUNTU
[15:13] <evilytwisted> not other os.
[15:13] <blackflow> glitchd_: 28 and 29 look like you half-pasted from somwhere, remove them
[15:13] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: better suggested to rise an issue here https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/new
[15:13] <TJ-> evilytwisted: "bionic beaver" is the codename of Ubuntu 18.04
[15:14] <evilytwisted> TJ-:  thank you so much, see was that so hard?
[15:14] <A1Recon> TJ-: nisankhindia is it possible to get the output of this "[ok] xyz started... [ok] snap created" screen on terminal right now?I think its output from some kind of systems-check progra.
[15:14] <TJ-> glitchd_: line 32 should start with a #
[15:14] <nisankhindia> A1Recond:  logs can be found at /var/log path
[15:15] <nisankhindia> A1recon: cd /var/log
[15:15] <blackflow> glitchd_: that too
[15:15] <TJ-> glitchd_: line 29 should start with a % --- but that would cancel out line  26
[15:15] <evilytwisted> TJ-:  is ubuntu still canocal or however its spelled?
[15:15] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: what all command outputs should i include on that issue post, so that it becomes clear for any devs?
[15:15] <TJ-> evilytwisted: Ubuntu is a trademark of Canonical Ltd, the company behind Ubuntu distro
[15:16] <glitchd_> blackflow, TJ- line 29 is blank, what should be there?
[15:16] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: just put the information that you have for now , later on they will guide you through the process
[15:16] <TJ-> glitchd_: look at your pastebin - line 29 has code
[15:16] <evilytwisted> ah ty
[15:16] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: Or you can go to devtalk nvidia portal too for forum discussion
[15:18] <TJ-> A1Recon: can you show us "pastebinit <( grep apparmor /var/log/kern.log )"
[15:19] <blackflow> glitchd_: talking about what you pasted. remove lines 28 and 29, and line 32 must start with #   so it must be   #include /etc/sudoers.d
[15:19] <A1Recon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TfQH2CY9tN/ TJ-
[15:20] <qwebirc22283> Greetings;  I pull xFreeRDP2-x11 from Remmina's PPA.  The most recent update pushed my freerdp version from rc2 to dev4 which broke it for me.  Anyone know how I can revert?
[15:20] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: i can only suggest you at this position to rise an issue over there , not exactly this but similar issues has been resolved in past for fedora and opensuse etc works at https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/nisankh/altrepo_bumblebee/fedora-29-x86_64/
[15:20] <nisankhindia> A1Recon: have a great time ahead ,time to go offline
[15:20] <A1Recon> nisankhindia: thans mate
[15:21] <A1Recon> thanks dhanyawad
[15:21] <TJ-> A1Recon: no signs of apparmor denied messages affecting /dev/dri there
[15:21] <glitchd_> blackflow, i got it. i just remembered that i added line 29.
[15:22] <glitchd_> blackflow, i was trying to get a particular command to run as sudo without needing to enter a password, the same way i had it in my previous install. i found that line while doing some research and trying different things.
[15:22] <blackflow> glitchd_: which one, 29?
[15:22] <glitchd_> blackflow, yes i believe so, unless im remembering wrong
[15:23] <blackflow> glitchd_: well that is wrong syntax. sudo group must start with %, and anyway that on itself does not allow passwordless sudo
[15:23] <blackflow> glitchd_: so anyway, you got that working?
[15:23] <glitchd_> blackflow, nope.
[15:24] <tachikomas> Hello ubuntu channel. Having some issue with 18.04. It was a previous install in 16.04, french language, and i wanted to switch to english, and now, part of my system is in both language, unless i restart login trough systemd and it switch to english
[15:24] <tachikomas> any way i can fix this proble ?
[15:24] <tachikomas> problem
[15:24] <glitchd_> blackflow, this is the line i added in my 16.04 install and it worked perfectly.
[15:24] <glitchd_> glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/update
[15:24] <blackflow> glitchd_: okay, put this   https://pastebin.com/cK8AkiC5    in  a file in /etc/sudoers.d/
[15:24] <TJ-> glitchd_: I set those up using multiple files in /etc/sudoers.d/ as in 'lvm' has "Cmnd_Alias LVM = /sbin/pvs, /sbin/vgs, /sbin/lvs, /sbin/pvdisplay, /sbin/vgdisplay, /sbin/lvdisplay" and 'tj' has "%sudo ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: LVM, APT, KERNEL, DD"
[15:24] <blackflow> glitchd_: right, put that line in a file in /etc/sudoers.d/   and   chmod 444 that file
[15:25] <tachikomas> A second thing is it dont detect the lidbutton on my laptop (ThinkPad X230), acpi always said open. But it's working fine on any other system ;)
[15:25] <TJ-> glitchd_: created using "sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/lvm" ...
[15:26] <blackflow> TJ-: why aliases? sounds a bit... convoluted
[15:26] <TJ-> blackflow: because I have many Aliases for different sets, makes it easy to deploy to multiple systems that use different sets
[15:26] <blackflow> I see
[15:32] <glitchd_> blackflow, ok so i made the file in "/etc/sudoers.d/upd", and inside i put the line "glitchd ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd", but its still not working
[15:32] <blackflow> glitchd_: did you chmod it?
[15:32] <glitchd_> blackflow, im so confused as to why this worked without a hitch in 16.04 but refuses to work in 18.04.
[15:33] <glitchd_> blackflow, chmod it to what? 777?
[15:33] <blackflow> glitchd_: perhaps actually READ my posts to you? I mentioned it TWICE now. and it's written in the README in sudoers.d which I wholeheartedly recommend you to READ.
[15:34] <EriC^^> glitchd_: try 'readlink -f $(which upd)'  without the single quotes
[15:35] <glitchd_> blackflow, sry i completely missed that line where you said to use 444
[15:35] <EoflaOE> hi BluesKaj
[15:35] <blackflow> glitchd_: also read the README, it mentions there the reasons
[15:35] <glitchd_> EriC^^, :~$ readlink -f $(which upd)
[15:36] <BluesKaj> hi EoflaOE
[15:36] <glitchd_> EriC^^, * :~$ readlink -f $(which upd)
[15:36] <EriC^^> glitchd_: ?
[15:36] <glitchd_> EriC^^, im not sure why its not pasting the whole line
[15:36] <EriC^^> paste the output only
[15:37] <EriC^^> it's not pasting cause it starts with a "/"
[15:37] <glitchd_> EriC^^, /usr/bin/upd
[15:37] <EriC^^> aha ok
[15:37] <EriC^^> thanks
[15:37] <glitchd_> EriC^^, sry about that..
[15:37] <EriC^^> no worries :)
[15:38] <EriC^^> i had an issue once where it kept asking for a password when the command was a link to another file, guess it's not the case here though
[15:38] <glitchd_> blackflow, so oddly enough, i just decided to run "sudo upd" and it ran the command without asking for a password
[15:38] <glitchd_> EriC^^, ^^^^
[15:38] <blackflow> glitchd_: oddly? :)  nah. this is proper set up
[15:39] <glitchd_> blackflow, in my 16.04 setup, all i had to do was type "upd" and it ran the command, whats different here?
[15:39] <blackflow> the only odd thing actually is apparent order of entries in sudoers. for which I found no meaningful explanation in the manpage. in that if you define users before groups it won't work
[15:39] <blackflow> but tehn root is defined before %sudo and %admin and I have no clue why that is then
[15:39] <blackflow> glitchd_: sorry what do you mean?
[15:40] <blackflow> glitchd_: passwordless _sudo_ requires "sudo" prefix on commands.     sudo upd   for example   (assuming upd is in PATH)
[15:41] <blackflow> if you only typed "upd" with no "sudo", then sudo isn't involved at all, or upd itself runs sudo commands inside (but then, what, calling itself?)
[15:41] <EriC^^> maybe you had an alias for upd, alias upd='sudo upd '
[15:41] <blackflow> good catch
[15:41] <glitchd_> blackflow, ok, in my last install, which was 16.04, i had the line "glitchd ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/upd" as the last line in my sudoers file. when i ran the command all i had to type was "upd" and it worked, i didnt have to  type "sudo upd". what is different now?
[15:42] <EriC^^> note the space at the end is important there
[15:42] <blackflow> glitchd_: nothing is, read what EriC^^ just said. or there was some other setup.
[15:42] <glitchd_> EriC^^, i dont remember setting up an alias for it, but you may be right i guess.
[15:45] <glitchd_> EriC^^, i added that line to my ".bash_aliases" file and now it works without needing to type sudo. thank you very much.
[15:45] <glitchd_> blackflow, thank you also for all the help, much appreciated fellas!
[15:46] <glitchd_> EriC^^, just for knowledge sake, what is the meaning or purpose of the space at the end of the line that i put in the .bash_aliases file?
[15:47] <EriC^^> glitchd_: oh, i think i got stuff kind of mixed up, it's usually used so that if you have an alias it still works with sudo
[15:48] <EriC^^> it's used like alias sudo='sudo '   so that bash keeps on substituting the aliases after sudo
[15:48] <EriC^^> (more info here https://askubuntu.com/questions/22037/aliases-not-available-when-using-sudo )
[15:48] <glitchd_> EriC^^, gotcha, thank you again.
[15:49] <EriC^^> no problem :)
[15:49] <glitchd_> adios gents!
[15:57] <EoflaOE> I am on Lubuntu 18.04 LTS. I have a D-Link DWA-121 mini Wireless USB adapter, and it's using the rtl8192cu driver. The problem is that the blue LED is solid on instead of continuously blinking when there is activity or not. I went to 8192cu-fixes and it said that it's obsolete and that I should use the *new* rtl8xxxu driver that is initially introduced in Linux 4.4. How can I run that *new* driver instead of that buggy driver where the LEDs don't blink?
[15:58] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: your kernel version please?
[15:58] <EoflaOE> Linux 4.15.0-36-generic
[15:59] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: ok tnx, any errors on your syslog branching your adapter?
[16:01] <EoflaOE> No errors. It connects find to my network and I can achieve at full speed
[16:01] <EoflaOE> fine*
[16:03] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: its just a led problem?
[16:04] <EoflaOE> Yes. I want it to blink continuously
[16:11] <tomreyn> EoflaOE: file a bug (if there isn't one already): ubuntu-bug linux
[16:12] <EoflaOE> tomreyn: I will file if I have tested the other rtl8xxxu.
[16:12] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: there are some realtek githubs out there to test firmware/drivers from aswell
[16:14] <EoflaOE> lotus|NUC: Can you give me the most stable rtl8192cu driver that make the LED blink?
[16:14] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: follow tomreyn's advice, go for the bug help yourself and the community this way
[16:15] <EoflaOE> Ok. THanks
[16:15] <lotus|NUC> EoflaOE: feel free after the bug, to link it here we can take a look, give advice
[16:15] <EoflaOE> OK. It's being filed.
[16:16] <lotus|NUC> thank you for taking your time EoflaOE
[16:16] <EoflaOE> You are welcome
[16:16] <coconut> questions about multi media remotes, can the be asked here too?
[16:16] <coconut> i am searching for an supported one
[16:21] <tomreyn> coconut: it's not just a matter of what the ubuntu OS (linux) supports, but also a matter of what the application(s) you plan to use can handle. Example for kodi: https://kodi.wiki/view/Remote_controls
[16:22] <tomreyn> i'd start by deciding which applications to use, then find a remote (and remoting technology) they all support and you like best, then see whether it's supported by linux (by this point chances are it will be).
[16:23] <coconut> thanks tomreyn :)  i want to use on a media center, don't know which one yet, but as long as it's open source.
[16:23] <coconut> oh it will be even. Heh this is a shiny day today.
[16:31] <EoflaOE> lotus|NUC: It's filed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1797420
[16:36] <TJ-> EoflaOE: I believe the driver you were told about is "r8192u_usb" which is in Ubuntu (comes from the kernel staging tree)
[16:37] <EoflaOE> TJ-: Is that an appropriate driver for rtl8192cu WiFi USB dongles?
[16:42] <apawl> I have a macbook and ubuntu running in a tower upstairs. Is there an equivalent of RDP I can run so that I can remote desktop into the ubuntu machine?
[16:42] <apawl> *An Ubuntu analogue for RDP, I mean.
[16:44] <TJ-> EoflaOE: I'm not entirely clear, but that is a/the rtl8192u I think was referred to. Can you show us the USB ID of the wifi device via "lsusb" ? We just need the vendor:product ID hex numbers
[16:45] <EoflaOE> TJ-: 2001:3308
[16:49] <TJ-> apawl: freerdp2-shadow-x11 as a server will support RDP, or there is VNC via several packages. try "apt-cache search -n vnc" for a list
[16:50] <TJ-> EoflaOE: seems like that driver doesn't (yet) support your device: "alias:          usb:v2001p3301d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in*" only shows 3301
[16:51] <TJ-> EoflaOE: however it is possible to test it by manually binding the device to that driver
[16:54] <EoflaOE> TJ-: Thanks. What about r8192cu_usb? Is it supported for my dongle?
[16:57] <Vuurdraak_> hi all, q: how do i install the source code of the (pre) installed ffmpeg package inside ubuntu 14.04, so that i can compile obs against it with nvenc support ?
[16:57] <TJ-> EoflaOE: Actually, there are TWO drivers that both claim the alias 2001:3308. Have you tried the rtl8xxxu driver by unloading the rtl8192cu driver and loading rtl8xxxu ?
[16:58] <EoflaOE> tj-: No. I will try that driver, but how do I load that driver instead of the rtl8192cu driver?
[16:59] <tomreyn> !vnc apawl
[16:59] <tomreyn> !vnc | apawl
[17:00] <TJ-> EoflaOE: "sudo modprobe -r rtl8192cu && sudo modprobe rtl8xxxu"
[17:01] <TJ-> EoflaOE: if you find that better you can 'blacklist' the rtl8192cu driver to prevent it being auto-loaded
[17:01] <tomreyn> apawl: that's assuming the ubuntu runs with a graphical desktop, otherwise you'd just use ssh. if you'll go with the VNC protocol, have a look at the vinagre and vino client / server
[17:01] <EoflaOE> OK TJ-. I will see about that driver.
[17:02] <Vuurdraak_> oww i finaly found an awnser with a search engine :') -> Use the command apt-get source <package> (don't use sudo with it) to download the source of a package.
[17:02] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: correct
[17:03] <EoflaOE> Vuurdraak_: Right, but then you have to download "compile" dependencies by sudo apt-get build-dep <package>.
[17:03] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: *but* that assumes that you've enabled the deb-src entries in /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:03] <Vuurdraak_> mmm :')
[17:04] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: you can do that with "sudo add-apt-repository  -s universe"
[17:04] <Vuurdraak_> i have never bothered for the source of stuff until now
[17:04] <Vuurdraak_> k thanks
[17:04] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: it is unusual to need it
[17:04] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: are you aware how to build a debian/ubuntu package?
[17:05] <Vuurdraak_> i tried to compile obs against a self compiled ffmpeg and it sort of halve works but i dont get audio when i stream to twitch, and i see somebody say "hey nvenc is standard in the debian/ubuntu installed ffmpeg"
[17:06] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: after installing the build-depends you should, in the base directory of the source, use "fakeroot debian/rules binary" that will create the .deb files in the *parent* directory (e.g. "ls ../*.deb" will show them)
[17:06] <Vuurdraak_> and he just compiled obs against the standard installed ffmpeg so i wanted to try to do that
[17:07] <Vuurdraak_> okay i will go try to mentioned steps
[17:07] <r3r57> ww
[17:08] <Dbugger> is there a simple way to make Ubuntu auto-connect to a VPN on boot?
[17:09] <EoflaOE> TJ-: Same LED not blinking with rtl8xxxu
[17:12] <EoflaOE> Dbugger: Open "Network Connections" on "System Settings"
[17:13] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: is the OBS in Ubuntu not good enough?
[17:13] <Vuurdraak_> no
[17:13] <Dbugger> EoflaOE, i do not see anything close to System Connections
[17:13] <Vuurdraak_> you need to compile it your self else you do  not have NVENC support
[17:14] <Vuurdraak_> iaw rendering of video by the gpu
[17:14] <Vuurdraak_> to stream
[17:14] <Vuurdraak_> or record
[17:14] <EoflaOE> Dbugger: Which ubuntu version are you in?
[17:14] <Vuurdraak_> i get an error if i ask for ffmepg source :(
[17:14] <Dbugger> 18.04
[17:14] <Vuurdraak_> E: Unable to find a source package for ffmpeg
[17:15] <EriC^^> Vuurdraak_: do you have the sources enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:15] <Vuurdraak_> EriC^^, i did do a ""sudo add-apt-repository  -s universe"
[17:15] <EoflaOE> Dbugger: Which VPN provider do you use?
[17:16] <Vuurdraak_> but i already had that repository, do i need to do something else ?
[17:16] <Dbugger> EoflaOE, IPVanish
[17:16] <Vuurdraak_> do i need to manulay edit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:16] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: you mean you have the NVENC libraries installed and obs-studio wasn't built to use them (no plugin) ?
[17:16] <Vuurdraak_> i have managed to build obs with nvenc support against a static self build ffmpeg
[17:17] <Vuurdraak_> and got it properly working while recording to disk
[17:17] <Vuurdraak_> only when i stream i dont have adio
[17:17] <Vuurdraak_> audio*
[17:17] <hggdh> Vuurdraak_: I can download it (via apt source ffmpeg). Did you run apt update?
[17:18] <EoflaOE> Dbugger: Try following the steps on https://www.htpcguides.com/configure-ipvanish-openvpn-on-debian-ubuntu/
[17:19] <Vuurdraak_> soi did an apt update
[17:19] <Dbugger> EoflaOE, The problem is not connecting... I want it to connect ON BOOT
[17:19] <Dbugger> Auto-connect
[17:19] <Vuurdraak_> apt source ffmpeg gives: E: Invalid operation source
[17:20] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: I'm just looking at obs-studio source; it should be trivial to enable building the nvenc plugin. As far as I can tell we already have the libraries it needs: "libnvidia-encode-390" etc
[17:20] <Vuurdraak_>  apt-get source ffmpeg
[17:20] <Vuurdraak_> Reading package lists... Done
[17:20] <Vuurdraak_> Building dependency tree
[17:20] <Vuurdraak_> Reading state information... Done
[17:20] <Vuurdraak_> E: Unable to find a source package for ffmpeg
[17:20] <core7> I just got my 2080 TI cards from nvidia - Ubuntu 16.04 - how do i install the 400 series drivers? Is there a PPA that can help?
[17:20] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: "apt-get" not "apt" when using "source"
[17:20] <Vuurdraak_> yes the normaly installed ffmpeg from ubuntu already is compiled with nvenc support
[17:20] <Vuurdraak_> i checked that
[17:21] <Vuurdraak_> all sources are in the universe repository ?
[17:22] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: strange why that nvenc plugin isn't built; the ffmpeg plugin is there ( " obs-plugins: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/obs-plugins/obs-ffmpeg.so " )
[17:22] <EoflaOE> Vuurdraak_: Yes. Enable all source repositories including universe and update package lists using 'sudo apt-get update'
[17:22] <EoflaOE> Dbugger: I am looking...
[17:23] <Vuurdraak_> my problem at the moment is that when i compile obs i need the ffmpeg source code as it compiles against that @tj
[17:24] <Vuurdraak_> im searching for what other repositories might contain the ffmpeg source code as i gess its not in universe
[17:24] <lolcat-007> why i cant transfers files from my desktop to  the external hard drive it seeam permission issue
[17:24] <lolcat-007> any help
[17:24] <lolcat-007> ?
[17:25] <ioria> Vuurdraak_, do you you this line enabled 'deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic-updates universe' ?
[17:25] <blackflow> lolcat-007: what's the error you're getting?
[17:25] <ioria> *have
[17:26] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: the obs-ffmpeg plugin DOES contain the nvenc code
[17:26] <lolcat-007> blackflow: the drive is already mount it but when i try to copy file it doesnt let me
[17:26] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: see the "plugins/obs-ffmpeg/CMakeLists.txt" file
[17:27] <Vuurdraak_> i got obs already running with nvenc, so i got all the nvidia stuff etc up
[17:27] <Vuurdraak_> only i got a problem with it streaming :D
[17:27] <blackflow> lolcat-007: do you know how to use the command line? can you pastebin the output of  `stat /path/to/directory/that/you/copy/INTO`  ?
[17:28] <Vuurdraak_> i think its missing stuff if i follow a script to build all of it, as x264 no longer works in my own build
[17:28] <Vuurdraak_> thats why i wanted to build it against the regular ffmpeg installed in ubuntu , but for that i need to install its source code
[17:28] <lolcat-007> blackflow: i new in linux and that command you suggest is advance to me
[17:29] <Vuurdraak_> mm deb-src command not found :')
[17:29] <Vuurdraak_> give me a moment i wanted to ad all the repositories brb
[17:30] <EoflaOE> I have to sleep. goodbye
[17:30] <ioria> Vuurdraak_, you need 'bionic-updates universe ' enabled
[17:31] <Vuurdraak_> how do i enabled that ?
[17:32] <ioria> Vuurdraak_, in souces.list
[17:32] <ioria> Vuurdraak_,    /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:34] <Vuurdraak_> k i think i got it some entries had a #
[17:35] <Vuurdraak_> lol :( noop no source for ffmpeg
[17:35] <ioria> Vuurdraak_, plase paste it
[17:36] <Vuurdraak_> past bin it ?
[17:36] <ioria> yes
[17:37] <Vuurdraak_> https://pastebin.com/StmcjWJh
[17:37] <ioria> trusty ?
[17:37] <Vuurdraak_> yes im on 14.04
[17:38] <ioria> no ffmpeg on trusty , sorry
[17:38] <Vuurdraak_> :O
[17:38] <Vuurdraak_> xD
[17:38] <ioria> you can use other sorces
[17:38] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: In the ffmpeg source, ./configure, it seems to require the CUDA libraries/headers to build nvEnc support: nvenc_deps="cuda"
[17:38] <Vuurdraak_> so its the avlib mascarading as ffmpeg
[17:38] <cyberspectre> Can someone recommend a good step-by-step tutorial on how to enable image hotlinking via .htaccess file in /var/www/html?
[17:39] <cyberspectre> I thought it was as easy as creating the .htaccess file, but apparently, it isn't that simple
[17:39] <Vuurdraak_> TJ-, i have no problems with cudo or compiling ffmpeg my self, but i get a halve broken halve working obs, who does have nvenc support
[17:39] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: can you explain "image hotlinking"?
[17:39] <Vuurdraak_> cuda*
[17:40] <TJ->  cyberspectre it depends what level of htaccess support you've enabled, as to whether .htaccess is read at all, or what statements in it are accepted
[17:40] <cyberspectre> tomreyn, the machine in question is a server I'd like to use to host assets for a website (on another server)
[17:40] <Vuurdraak_> does ubuntu 18.04 have ffmpeg build in ?.?
[17:40] <cyberspectre> currently, it refuses requests from image tags, for instance
[17:40] <Vuurdraak_> maybe i should do an os upgrade idk
[17:41] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: yes, the projects switched back to ffmpeg being the primary
[17:41] <cyberspectre> Vuurdraak_, isn't ffmpeg part of restricted extras?
[17:41] <TJ-> !info ffmpeg
[17:41] <ioria> Vuurdraak_, i suggest asm + ffmpeg source
[17:42] <Vuurdraak_> its avlib i think on trusty pretending to be ffmpeg, but the package installs as ffmpeg or maybe not ? , maybe i should find the source for avlib ?
[17:42] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: ".htaccess files" suggestyou are inquiring about apache httpd, correct? which ubuntu version is this? how are http requests forwarded to this webserver, or do they end up there directly from end users?
[17:43] <TJ-> !info libavcodec57
[17:43] <Vuurdraak_> yeh my problem is i already compiled obs against a downloaded source of ffmpeg, only i was guessing cause its static, it somehow has a problem but i dont know what that problem ealy is, thats why i wanted to try to build against the standard ffmpeg in ubuntu hoping that obs then found other missing stuff
[17:43] <cyberspectre> tomreyn, it's ubuntu server 16.04.5 LTS. Everything is stock, as installed, at the moment. All I've done is created the .htaccess file in /var/www/html
[17:44] <Vuurdraak_> as i got obs complete working with nvenc, but it crashes on using x264
[17:44] <Vuurdraak_> some somehow stuff is missing that i dont understand
[17:44] <ioria> Vuurdraak_, check the build log
[17:44] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: by default (stock) no web server is installed, did you install one?
[17:44] <Vuurdraak_> if it only would have also streamed in nvenc with audio enabled im golden but it streams with nvenc but i got no audio on twitch when it does its realy strange
[17:44] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: in 18.04 at least, ffmpeg's ./configure script indicates it'll automatically build in suport for nvenc if suda is available - which I'd think would then allow obs-studio to also work (as packages built from the Ubuntu archive source)
[17:45] <Vuurdraak_> true
[17:45] <Vuurdraak_> yeh maybe i got to first try to dig in to the build logs as there seems no source
[17:45] <cyberspectre> tomreyn, oh, I think it comes pre-installed because it's an amazon ec2 server
[17:46] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: I doubtt nvenc is responsible for the audio - surely that just offloads the video encoding side to an Nvidia GPU? what audio encoder are you trying to use/is required by twitch ?
[17:46] <Vuurdraak_> im guessing aac
[17:46] <Vuurdraak_> but not sure , when i download a twitch file the audio is called mp4
[17:46] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: might be a good idea to check that for certain; never guess :)
[17:47] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: mpeg4 will be the container; check what is within it. something like VLC can show that
[17:48] <Vuurdraak_> oh no wait it does say MPEG-4 AAC
[17:48] <Vuurdraak_> so yeh twitch is aac
[17:48] <Vuurdraak_> i thought when i rec itas also aac though mmmm
[17:48] <TJ-> cyberspectre: do you have an "AllowOverride ..." statement in the apache2 default site vhost for the <Directory> ?
[17:49] <Vuurdraak_> i killed obs i need to rebuild it first and see what happens :'D
[17:49] <TJ-> Vuurdraak_: OK, so in theory, if you're recording using aac the audio should pass-through rather than being re-encoded
[17:49] <cyberspectre> TJ-, do you mean I should set "AllowOverride" to ALL under /var/www/html in the file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf?
[17:50] <tomreyn_> cyberspectre: i just got disconnected, please consider repeating anything you may have posted after i wrote: <tomreyn> cyberspectre: okay, so what happens when you try to access an image file from a client which is remote to this server, using the http protocol?
[17:51] <TJ-> cyberspectre: usually it'd go in the per-site conf file /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf
[17:52] <TJ-> cyberspectre: note it only works in a Directory context: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/mod/core.html#allowoverride
[17:52] <cyberspectre> tomreyn_, if I try it with an img tag (which I assume makes an http request), it shows up as a broken image and the dev tools console reports "net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED" on that item
[17:53] <cyberspectre> TJ-, the tutorial I was reading told me to do that in both places, though I couldn't see where I should do it in 000-default.conf. I'll take another look, hang on
[17:54] <TJ-> cyberspectre: it's better to do it on a per-site basis in that it keeps it modular. For a server with a single site it doesn't make that much difference, but as you'll likely only edit the site it makes sense to keep all commands in one place
[17:56] <cyberspectre> TJ-, https://pastebin.com/KypsvpB1 this is what the file looks like right now. Could you show me where I should enter new information?
[17:59] <tomreyn> net::ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED suggests that no tcp connection to the server you are trying to make work could be established. what happens when you use a web browser to connect to the IP address of the webserver?
[17:59] <TJ-> cyberspectre: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TCNDX5wvRr/
[18:00] <TJ-> cyberspectre: are you trying to use a link to an image on ANOTHER SERVER in your HTML files? because the error tomreyn shows there is because the OTHER SERVER is refusing the connection - probably preventing the link because the HTML page isn't being served from the same server
[18:01] <TJ-> cyberspectre: that is a common defense against deep links
[18:01] <cyberspectre> TJ-, that is correct. The website is hosted on shopify. The ubuntu server is for assets only
[18:02] <cyberspectre> TJ-, tomreyn , accessing files from the web browser works fine
[18:02] <cyberspectre> they just don't work in img tags
[18:03] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: well, this erro message says that whatever web browser tried to connect to the webserver hosting the images wasn't abel to setup a TCP / HTTP connection to it.
[18:04] <tomreyn> so it looks like a more fundamental issue.
[18:06] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: note this could also be a configuration issue on the client / the network configuration at its site, it doesn't *have* to be a server side issue.
[18:06] <lolcat-007> blackflow: i fix the issue
[18:07] <blackflow> lolcat-007: great!
[18:07] <lolcat-007> blackflow: i just change user and group with chown
[18:07] <blackflow> lolcat-007: that's what I was aiming at, but starting with checking the uids via `stat`
[18:07] <lolcat-007> and then i was be able to write in the external hard drive
[18:09] <cyberspectre> hmm
[18:09] <cyberspectre> oooooh... that's interesting
[18:10] <cyberspectre> It is a shopify problem. So there's nothing wrong with the server
[18:10] <cyberspectre> https://freakdesign.com.au/blogs/news/76831303-use-your-own-domain-instead-of-shopify-cdn-in-image-urls
[18:16] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: this doesn't seem to discuss the use case you discussed here. but if it helps you, i'm glad you found a way forward.
[18:16] <cyberspectre> tomreyn, I'm actually not certain it does
[18:16] <cyberspectre> because images from other domains do work
[18:18] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: i kno't know how shopify works. i know how http and html works. but unless you're able / willing to share details i dont swee a way to help you there.
[18:19] <tomreyn> cyberspectre: it may also be specific wnough to warrant asking your questions in #httpd (i think that's the apache http server channel, not certain)
[18:20] <cyberspectre> Well, images from at least one domain do work. Right now, I'm thinking it may have something to do with http vs https.  The console error says : GET https://ubuntuserverdomain.com/image.jpg  net:: ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
[18:21] <cyberspectre> but the ubuntu server domain is http:// not https://
[18:21] <TJ-> cyberspectre: well yes, if you haven't configured a TLS vhost on port 443
[18:21] <cyberspectre> yet the img tag in the html specifies http://, not https://
[18:21] <TJ-> cyberspectre: which browser?
[18:21] <cyberspectre> TJ-, chrome
[18:22] <TJ-> cyberspectre: I wonder if it is forcing upgrade to TLS
[18:22] <TJ-> cyberspectre: try with other browsers
[18:24] <cyberspectre> TJ-, here, this may help provide context
[18:24] <cyberspectre> https://nutrigold.com/blogs/articles/the-mighty-cranberry
[18:24] <TJ-> cyberspectre: shopify may be applying an STS header (Strict Transport Security)
[18:26] <TJ-> cyberspectre: is that your site? is this your http image link "http://nutrigold.info/avatars/ngavatar_paleobosslady.jpg" ?
[18:27] <cyberspectre> TJ-, yes
[18:27] <cyberspectre> that is the image that's failing
[18:27] <TJ-> cyberspectre: I don't see any errors using Firefox
[18:27] <cyberspectre> TJ-, you see the image?
[18:30] <cyberspectre> it looks like shopify does use HSTS, so would that cause the browser to request the image from my server via https instead of http?
[18:30] <thanos> it's a woman laughing.
[18:30] <cyberspectre> yes it's a woman laughing, but does it display correctly on the web page
[18:32] <core7> if i want to move /home from one disk to another - what is the easiest way to do this? Currently / has /home and is on one disk. I want to move all of this to another disk which is mounted on /data?
[18:33] <cyberspectre> Ah. I just tried it on Edge and it does work in that browser. But firefox and any webkit browser (chrome, opera, vivaldi tried) don't display the image there. Maybe it has something to do with the way chrome deals with this HSTS
[18:34] <TJ-> cyberspectre: same with Firefox, it upgrades the request to HTTPS *but* if you request the file from the link shown in Page Info/Media, it displays it there
[18:34] <JimBuntu> core7, do you mean like cp -r /home /data ?
[18:34] <cyberspectre> TJ-, I really appreciate your assistance with this.
[18:34] <stram> what is the default sound server for ubuntu 18.04? Is it PulseAudio or ALSA? I uninstall pulseaudio* and now I seem to have no audio devices found in "Sound" under Settings
[18:35] <TJ-> stram: pulseaudio
[18:35] <stram> jesus christ
[18:35] <TJ-> nope, I'm just called God :)
[18:35] <stram> documentation is fucking awful
[18:35] <TJ-> !language stram
[18:35] <core7> JimBuntu: yes - but how do i tell ubuntu to now look at /data/home instead of /home - which i want to delete
[18:35] <stram> https://linuxhint.com/pulse_audio_sounds_ubuntu/ <-- i realize it's not an official article, but WTF
[18:36] <stram> "Ubuntu 18.04 LTS uses ALSA for sound management by default. You can easily replace it with PulseAudio sound server."
[18:36] <tiggster79> why would you uninstall pulseaudio?
[18:36] <TJ-> seems to be the blind leading the deaf !
[18:37] <tiggster79> didnt you check to see if pulseaudio was started before you blew it away?
[18:38] <cyberspectre> TJ-, so based on what I've learned here, I think the best solution is to use TLS on my ubuntu server. I will attempt to do that.
[18:38] <JimBuntu> core7, oh, I thought you were just moving the data, like into a new system. There are plenty of tutorials for migrating you /home in Ubuntu
[18:38] <TJ-> cyberspectre: looks like it, yes
[18:38] <TJ-> !info certbot | cyberspectre
[18:40] <core7> JimBuntu: I first did a rysnc - so that i can copy /home into /data/home (used -av)
[18:40] <core7> JimBuntu: How do i tell ubuntu to not look at /home from "/" - and instead look at /data/home?
[18:43] <TJ-> core7: add an entry in /etc/fstab. Easiest if /data/home/ were a file-system in its own right. You'll have to bind-mount otherwise, requiring 2 entries in /etc/fstab
[18:43] <JimBuntu> core7, that would normally be done with usermod. Since you mentioned deleting, you would probably want to change the /etc/default/useradd file as well, so new users are given the new directory prefix, I'm not sure what else might need to be changed
[18:44] <TJ-> JimBuntu: oh, that's another way. Didn't think of simply altering the user $HOME :)
[18:44] <TJ-> JimBuntu: still going to need an fstab entry for mounting  /data/ though
[18:46] <cyberspectre> TJ-, done!
[18:46] <cyberspectre> Thanks, pal. Certbot was cake.
[18:47] <core7> TJ-: in my case, I have another drive already mounted in which I am moving /home
[18:48] <JimBuntu> core7, right... but what happens when you reboot the machine?
[18:48] <core7> JimBuntu: I currently just copied the files - so it uses the /home right now
[18:48] <rypervenche> It should just be an rsync and then a quick fix in fstab.
[18:49] <rypervenche> I would recommend not having a user logged in while you do it though, so you'd have to log out and log into the root user via a TTY to do that. And on Ubuntu you won't have a password directly to root, most likely.
[18:51] <rypervenche> core7: I sent some useful info in a private message.
[18:54] <TJ-> easiest way is create another user, add them to sudo group, log-out as the regular user, switch to TTY, log-in as that (new) user, do everything that is needed, test, then delete new user
[18:56] <lolcat-007> where i can get a good ubuntu course tutorial
[18:56] <lolcat-007> ?
[18:57] <tomreyn> !manual
[18:57] <tomreyn> ^ doesn't exist for 18.04, yet (and it may never hapen)
[18:58] <tomreyn> but there is https://help.ubuntu.com/
[19:07] <lotus|NUC> lolcat-007: the blue ? icon is also usefull for help on your system
[19:09] <lolcat-007> lotus|NUC: ok
[19:09] <lolcat-007> thank
[19:14] <imark> anyone have much experience with snaps? I've installed snapd in ubuntu 16.04 installed the brave snap package and can't run it. Its not appeared in my menu and running brave from terminal draws a blank
[19:17] <lotus|NUC> imark: brave snap is pretty borked
[19:17] <imark> lotus|NUC, oh silly me, first install of snap doens't add /snap/bin to path, logout/in cycle fixed it.
[19:17] <lotus|NUC> imark: takes a huge time to startup and very unresponsive overall
[19:22] <tomreyn> last updated Oct 9 https://snapcraft.io/brave
[19:23] <lotus|NUC> tomreyn: 'browse fast..'
[19:24] <NightMonkey> Howdy, y'all. I'm looking for a APT repo (PPA) that has Ansible 2.6.* version for Xenial.
[19:25] <imark> lotus|NUC, seems ok, not slow for me
[19:25] <leftyfb> NightMonkey: you don't want 2.7?
[19:26] <leftyfb> NightMonkey: did you try searching google for "ubuntu ansible 2.6 ppa"? It's the first result. Leave out 2.6 and you get the ansible ppa with 2.7
[19:45] <MrPaz> paz@PAZ:~$ python3 -m virtualenv venv
[19:45] <MrPaz> Running virtualenv with interpreter /usr/bin/python2
[19:45] <MrPaz> New python executable in /home/paz/digital-cash/venv/bin/python2
[19:45] <MrPaz> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:45] <MrPaz>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/virtualenv.py", line 2375, in <module>
[19:45] <MrPaz>     main()
[19:47] <MrPaz> hello
[19:48] <nicomachus> !paste | MrPaz
[19:49] <MrPaz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p4yft5bdBN/
[19:50] <MrPaz> why does it fail?  and why does it use python2 when I specify python3?
[19:50] <MrPaz> using ubuntu subystem on windows10
[19:53] <john38> Hello does anybody know where the steam search history folder in is???
[19:53] <john38> is in??
[19:55] <leftyfb> john38: maybe try the steam help sources? forums? discord? irc?
[19:56] <leftyfb> !wsl | MrPaz
[19:56] <MrPaz> ok
[19:56] <nicomachus> MrPaz: as leftyfb points out, you'll need #ubuntu-on-windows for support. You may also try ##python
[19:56] <john38> i've tried doing search online no luck
[19:56] <nicomachus> or is it #python? whichever.
[19:59] <dwigton> I noticed that I now have /dev/fb1 in addition /dev/fb0 is there any way to ascertain which is used for tty terminals?
[20:00] <ezzieyguywuf> if I'm using bzr (so I guess dpkg?) to create a debian package, how can I have it adjust the cmake variables?
[20:07] <Greyztar_> hdparm reports trim is supported,but when fstrim i get not supported kingston ssdnow 60gb,anything i gt do or install in ubuntu to get it working?
[20:07] <Greyztar_> ubuntu 18.04
[20:20] <cognition___> I am trying to uninstall a package
[20:20] <cognition___> apt-get --auto-remove remove srvadmin-all
[20:20] <cognition___> getting an error
[20:21] <hggdh> cognition___: apt-get remove
[20:21] <cognition___> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no package
[20:21] <hggdh> cognition___: and what happens when you tun apt-get -f isntall?
[20:22] <hggdh> s/tun/run/
[20:23] <cognition___> hggdh: I am hesitant to run apt-get -f install
[20:23] <cognition___> what will that do?
[20:24] <teward> cognition___: it'll attempt to solve the dependencies problems.
[20:24] <hggdh> cognition___: no need to, apt is already telling you you *need* to run it
[20:25] <hggdh> cognition___: the error is "unmet dependencies", meaning you tried to install a package without its required dependencies
[20:26] <hggdh> cognition___: so the install of this package is now, well, in limbo, until you run -f install
[20:26] <hggdh> perhaps you tried to install with dpkg instead of apt?
[20:27] <cognition___> https://pastebin.com/9Wb9k2mn
[20:27] <hggdh> cognition___: so, anwering your question: -f install will look at the repositories, and download the missing dependency packages, install them, then finish the interrupted install
[20:29] <cognition___> hggdh: apt-get -f install is failing
[20:29] <hggdh> cognition___: yes, I see. Failure on unpack. Perhaps a bad download?
[20:30] <thrmo> DIMITRI!
[20:30] <notmike> Привет
[20:30] <coconut> !ru
[20:31] <notmike> Duh
[20:32] <notmike> How to take delivery of Ubuntu?
[20:33] <coconut> notmike: delivery?
[20:33] <notmike> Yes, I am very much liking ubuntu
[20:34] <Greyztar_> seems trim is enabled by default in ubuntu 18,howver seems to be something new other than discard command idk
[20:35] <coconut> notmike: you mean how to install ubuntu?
[20:35] <notmike> Not sure . I've never really called it that
[20:37] <coconut> notmike: i don't understand your question, can you be more specific?
[20:37] <notmike> coconut: u like ubuntu, too? Know what I mean?
[20:37] <notmike> Ubuntu magnifico!
[20:38] <hggdh> notmike: this is not a general chat channel.
[20:40] <notmike> hggdh: forgive me, English is not first language. Trying to get into ubuntu
[20:40] <notmike> Specific
[20:50] <core7> I am trying to create an entry in fstab so that my current home directory from "/" that has "/home" becomes irrelevant and a fresh boot /dataX/home becomes my /home system. Is this correct?  dataX/home /home bind defaults,bind 0 0
[20:53] <hggdh> Greyztar_: at least on 18.10, fstrim is called once per week, with -av as parameters
[20:53] <hggdh> Greyztar_: and, just so we are in sync, there is no Ubuntu 18.
[20:54] <SuntopK> 18.10?
[20:54] <hggdh> SuntopK: current Cosmic, future 18.10
[20:54] <gt8ost4l> can anybody help me i am on ubuntu 18.04 not wayland when ever i click on krita (raster graphics program) it doesnt open can anybody help me?
[20:55] <Greyztar_> hggdh: yeah i saw fstrim.timer,however i cant see any entries in journalctl -u fstrim? yes im on 18.04.1 lts
[20:56] <hggdh> Greyztar_: fstrim.timer is just the timer, calling on fstrim.service
[20:57] <Greyztar_> hggdh: cant find any for fstrim.service nor fstrim either,im using lvm though also might that be why ftsrim -v root dir says unsupported?
[20:58] <SuntopK> nods
[20:58] <hggdh> Greyztar_: not sure. I do not have a 18.04 to test on; as long as your filesystems are under SSD, trim should work
[21:01] <Greyztar_> dmesg ata1.00: Enabling discard_zeroes_data
[21:01] <Greyztar_> seems it gets enabled atleast
[21:02] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, do you know a solution for me?
[21:04] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: well, maybe no solution, what shows if you start krita from terminal ?
[21:05] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, you kidding me i have to install it again?
[21:07] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, this only happends with kde applications all other applications pass the start up test!
[21:07] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: HUH ? All you have said is that from the GUI there is an issue .. what results starting in termnial ?
[21:08] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, yeah the gui doesnt start no kde applications start and no im not on wayland!
[21:09] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, okay ill give it a test!
[21:11] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, this is the output with another kde application that i wanted to start up!
[21:11] <gt8ost4l> konversation: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Network.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:11] <gt8ost4l> and here comes krita
[21:13] <gt8ost4l> krita: error while loading shared libraries: libQt5Widgets.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[21:20] <Bashing-om> !find libQt5Network.so.5
[21:23] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: what shows ' dpkg -l libqt5network5 ' ?
[21:24] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, do you want the output on pastebin?
[21:25] <Bashing-om> Greyztar_: Yes. please show that output.
[21:26] <Greyztar_> Bashing-om: u mean all of dmesg or those discard lines? its repeated 3x times i guess since i got 3x ssd though
[21:27] <Greyztar_> Bashing-om: ahh prolly ment msg gt8ost4l
[21:27] <Bashing-om> Greyztar_: Sorry. lost me .. I have no reference for the nick Greyztar_ .
[21:28] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CDkZbrBBqK/
[21:28] <Bashing-om> Greyztar_: Oh I see .. me and my fat fingering and not paying attention :( ..
[21:31] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Hummmm .. not what I anticipated .. but try ' sudo apt install --reinstall libqt5network5 ' anyway .. see if there are any errors reported .
[21:32] <Greyztar> pesky idle tabs omegalul
[21:33] <notmike> How to get Ubuntu?
[21:34] <Bashing-om> notmike: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop .
[21:34] <Greyztar> hmm someone says when u have an active lvm snap trim isnt working
[21:36] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, still wont open do i have to restart?
[21:38] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: No errors with the re-install  then yes, try a restart and see what results ?
[21:39] <notmike> Thanks
[21:42] <Bashing-om> notmike: :) .. you were specific to ubuntu. However ubuntu is not a good fit for all hardwares; your milage can vary .
[21:46] <Greyztar> ok removing lvm snapshot was solution,now fstrim works
[21:54] <R13ose> Hi
[21:56] <electronoob> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS. E: Package 'ffmpeg' has no installation candidate.
[21:57] <electronoob> sigh
[21:58] <R13ose> I have an error come up in a dialog box that says Configure file "/home/Shawn/.config/kreadconfigrc" not writeable. Please contact your system administrator.
[21:59] <Ben64> electronoob: it's in universe
[22:00] <electronoob> thanks Ben64
[22:06] <notmike> Bashing-om: Ubuntu is like unto manna from heaven
[22:06] <V7> Hey all
[22:06] <V7> Could anyone suggest why integrated camera doesn't work?
[22:11] <Bashing-om> R13ose: who owns the file ' ls -al /home/Shawn/.config/kreadconfigrc ' ?
[22:14] <R13ose> Got same message for konsolerc and hitting okay opens terminal
[22:17] <R13ose> Bashing-om: I don't see the file kreadconfig5rc.  Sorry I missed the 5 in the filename.
[22:20] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Looks like 3rd party stuff, where did you get kread from and how did you install it ?
[22:20] <R13ose> Bashing-om: I don't know.  This is not the first time for the error.
[22:23] <R13ose> When I hit tab on terminal, I get the message "bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system." I get that twice.
[22:23] <pavlos> V7: type lspci or psusb to find its device
[22:24] <pavlos> V7: type lspci or lsusb to find its device
[22:24] <Bashing-om> R13ose: So is the file system busted ? .. what results ' touch test ' ?
[22:25] <pavlos> V7: there is a 'cheese' app to test with
[22:25] <R13ose> Bashing-om: touch: cannot touch 'test': Read-only file system
[22:26] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Have we not been through this scene before ? Bad hard drive ??
[22:27] <R13ose> Bashing-om: yes but I was able to fix this by doing fsck with a live usb on the hdd
[22:28] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Suspect bad drive or other hardware problems as this is what the 3rd time to fix the read only situation ?
[22:29] <R13ose> Yes
[22:30] <pavlos> V7: there is also guvcview but you need to install some packages
[22:30] <R13ose> Bashing-om: I did take out bad memory.  How do I figure out what hardware is bad?
[22:33] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Well, is the drive supportedb by 'smartctl' and what does the tool relate as to the drive's health - is one place to start troubleshooting . What do the logs say ?
[22:36] <R13ose> Bashing-om: smartctl is not installed.  Which logs do I check?
[22:41] <Bashing-om> R13ose: ' sudo apt install smartmontools ; sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda ' . Log files: /var/log/syslog , dmesg .
[22:45] <Bashing-om> R13ose: But will have to either run 'smartctl' from a liveUSB, or fix the file system in order to install on the bad (??) hard drive .
[22:47] <R13ose> Bashing-om: I couldn't install as read-only errors came up.  I did get errors in dmesg "systemd-journald[319]: Failed to write entry (28 items, 677), ignoring: Read-only file system"
[22:49] <R13ose> Bashing-om: another error is "perf: interrupt took too long (4970 > 4953), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 40000
[22:50] <R13ose> Bashing-om: are you saying I should reboot and run the liveUSB?
[22:51] <Bashing-om> R13ose: The "interrupt" you can ignore. // Will be best to check that drive from a live environment, yes.
[22:52] <R13ose> Bashing-om: give me a few mins.
[22:53] <Bashing-om> R13ose: K; I be here for several hours yet :)
[22:53] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, okay im stuck again!
[22:54] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: On what are you stuck ?
[22:54] <gt8ost4l> now it says this This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb"
[22:54] <gt8ost4l> in "".
[22:55] <gt8ost4l> and i already installed xcb
[22:56] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: 'apt policy libc6 libx11-6 libxaw7 libxt6 ' in a pastebin . see if all dependencies are met .
[22:58] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jJRZFSz3qj/
[22:59] <R13ose> Bashing-om: I am on liveUSB.  I installed smartctl, and did the command you asked.  Results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qtnXSYf9Q2/
[22:59] <Khaotic> TJ, bluetooth is down again :(
[23:01] <Bashing-om> R13ose: looking
[23:01] <R13ose> Thanks
[23:08] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Un-Good: " Current_Pending_Sector  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       640" . Were me I would be replacing that drive . That is saying to me that there are now 640 bad sectors that the controller can not cope with.
[23:09] <R13ose> Bashing-om: no way to fix them?
[23:09] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Loks good to me .. what app is giving that problem ?
[23:10] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, both
[23:11] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Maybe .. I have zero'd out a drive and the sectors are then found good . But that calls for a system re-install .
[23:11] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Show me the command and the results in a pastie .
[23:11] <R13ose> Bashing-om: no, I will lose everything :(
[23:12] <Bashing-om> R13ose: What do you propose then for a fix ?
[23:13] <R13ose> Bashing-om: will fsck not fix this?  If not, I am unsure but I don't want to lose everything
[23:13] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2sfgKcPdJm/
[23:15] <Bashing-om> R13ose: fsck will address software issues - what you have is hardware related. I can not see fsck as a long term solution . You have beem through this several times now .
[23:16] <R13ose> Bashing-om: long term fix is new machine?
[23:17] <rfm> R13ose, just a new disk, not a whole new machine
[23:18] <R13ose> rfm: let me look and see if I have one.  Yet, how do I get the current material off the old drive?
[23:20] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Long term fix might be as easy as a new hard drive . How old is this system ?... an SSD will do wonders for perormance over a slow spinning hard drive .
[23:20] <rfm> R13ose, depends on what's unique.  if it's just some of your data in /home, boot the liveusb and copy it off somewhere (you need another system on the net you can write to for this)
[23:20] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: what shows ' which xcb ' ?
[23:21] <R13ose> I have an old drive, I found that was in another laptop so I will try that
[23:22] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, /usr/bin/xcb
[23:22] <rfm> R13ose, if you really want to save the system install -- i.e. you've made massive customizations, you need to get the new disk, connect it to the system, boot the liveusb, use dd to copy the whole disk over.
[23:23] <rfm> R13ose, since it's a 2.5" disk, I assume the system is a laptop and inevitabley has only one disk slot, right?
[23:24] <rfm> R13ose, so you'll have to get an external drive case to make the drive a usb external drive...
[23:24] <R13ose> rfm: I have another usb, I can use.  Yet, I would like to see if I can keep the bookmarks, current tabs opened and passwords saved of Opera Browser.  Plus, save Filezilla sites, and the background of desktop.
[23:25] <R13ose> rfm: I feel this only had one slot.  It is a laptop
[23:27] <R13ose> Bashing-om: afaik this is 5 years old.
[23:27] <rfm> R13ose, all that is in your home directory (actually if you are using Opera's roaming profile, all the opera stuff would be stored safely up there..)
[23:27] <R13ose> rfm: I don't think I was
[23:28] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Then I would expect the box to support AHCI, and I would install an SSD . The prices now are quite reasonable .
[23:30] <R13ose> Bashing-om: I have another hdd right here, can't I just swap the two once I take the data off that I want
[23:30] <R13ose> rfm: how do I get the data off of the existing HDD that is in the laptop?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: and is /usr/bin/ in your declared path : ' sudo echo $PATH ' .
[23:31] <rfm> R13ose, where do you want to move it to?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> R13ose: sure .. Just back up what data you want and do the re-install onto the other hard drive .
[23:32] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Xzg8BzFMy3/
[23:34] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: Yep .. it is good there too .. maybe do as the package manager advises and purge xcb and install again .
[23:35] <hggdh> coffeestorm: canyou please stop playingwith nicks?
[23:35] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, what is the command?
[23:35] <R13ose> rfm: to the other usb drive which is not plugged in yet.
[23:35] <coffeestorm> hggdh: roger roger o7
[23:36] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: ' sudp apt remove --purge xcb ; sudo apt install xcb ' .
[23:36] <hggdh> coffeestorm: thank you
[23:36] <R13ose> Bashing-om: reinstall as in run liveUSB and choose install instead of use?
[23:37] <Bashing-om> R13ose: yepper, depending on your level of experience ( and desire ) is the install option that you then choose .
[23:37] <rfm> R13rose, then once you get the usb drive connected and mounted just copy over your whole home directory.  cp -r  would work, I'd probably use rsync (after re-reading the man page to figure out which options I wanted)
[23:40] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om, is a restart required?
[23:40] <R13ose> rfm: Filezilla, background file and opera are all in home folder?  If so, how do I make sure the hdd is mounted safely?
[23:41] <Bashing-om> gt8ost4l: I would assume so .. I have not seen KDE in years and years so not at all familiar .
[23:41] <R13ose> Bashing-om: there are different ways to install?
[23:42] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Many many ways - for the inexperienced there is " wipe disk and install ubuntu " .
[23:43] <R13ose> Bashing-om: thanks.  Should I try to boot from the HDD first to see what is on this or just install over whatever?
[23:45] <rfm> R13ose, I don't understand what your concern is  (I don't know what it would mean to have a disk mounted "unsafely")
[23:45] <Bashing-om> R13ose: 4 installs all different: my system of 5 drives with 2 presently 'hot' : http://termbin.com/usa1
[23:47] <R13ose> rfm: true.
[23:47] <Bashing-om> R13ose: You are to give careful thought as to what you want to save . copy what you want to save off the hard drive .