[00:33] @wxl did you try "trust executable" m [00:33] ? [00:34] After I click on trust, I can't execute it [00:34] It does nothing [00:34] works for me [00:34] if it's checked, it works [00:35] MMM, Not for me [00:35] But unchecked it also doesn't work [00:35] So, maybe is an issue of not being in the wxlCountry list [00:36] using the installer as an example, if you check it then it just executes. if it's not checked, then it asks if you want to open or execute it. [00:36] this is not something IN the installer [00:37] Like the better look with the installer wxl? [00:37] yeah [00:37] 👍 [00:38] @wxl now I cannot install. Un checked ask but after execute it does nothing. Checked does nmothing [00:38] that's a different problem [00:38] yup [00:38] if you look back in the meeting notes you'll see i said to `sudo touch /etc/calamares/branding/lubuntu/icon.png` and then it will work [00:39] how can I run in terminal? I tried ~/Desktop/calamares.desktop and it shows me the content. [00:40] the failing is unrelated to the "trust executable" thing [00:40] look at ~/.cache/Calamares/session.log and you'll see the error [00:40] ok, now it runs [00:41] do you know where this "trust" is stored? [00:41] if you open up /usr/share/applications in pcmanfm and make sure one of those is trusted, you can just click to open [00:41] i haven't figured it out yet [00:41] if you want to figure that out, good on you! [00:41] i think it will inevitably end up mean looking at the cpp manual :/ [00:42] @wxl [ i think it will inevitably end up mean looking at the cpp manual :/], I was thinking the same [00:43] Nice Screenshots!!! [00:43] :) [00:43] thank wendy for that! [00:43] well done @TheWendyPower [00:43] Plymouth is teh one that puts the initial screen right? [00:44] starte lubuntu , install lubuntu and on [00:44] no, that's isolinux [00:44] if you want to change the theming in that, i'll have to dig it up again [00:44] aaa ok. When I change language Start Lubuntu still was "Start Lubuntu" the others changed [00:45] I tried it in spanish only. [00:45] ah [00:46] i'm not sure how those translations are done [00:46] the theming is in here tho https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/debian-cd/ubuntu/files/head:/data/cosmic/ [00:47] I like that theming it has now [01:12] (Photo, 683x490) https://i.imgur.com/1WaZXjC.jpg [01:14] Yeah the slide show is super nice. Excellent work @TheWendyPower [01:16] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FpjWKXxMzt/ [01:16] insatllation failed [01:20] apparently this is: ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Running "chroot" ("/tmp/calamares-root-7mqh4868", "/bin/sh", "-c", "/bin/false") ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Finished. Exit code: 1 [01:22] Same here. [01:24] I also have an exit code 1 in ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Running "chroot" ("/tmp/calamares-root-7mqh4868", "sh", "-c", "which dracut") ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Finished. Exit code: 1 [01:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL529307f85ad6: Put firefox back in the manual after switching back to firefox.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL529307f85ad6 [01:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6a37fdeab3a6: Add stub on how to launch vanilla libreoffice desktop and how to open files +…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6a37fdeab3a6 [01:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7f96dd658311: Add window management to chapter 5] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7f96dd658311 [01:31] Thank you @kc2bez and @HMollerCl! [01:35] was learning qt for a bit using the Beginner's Guide they have. Not bad. A lot of hand holding with the Qt Creator though [01:36] its weird, I don't mind the help but I wish they kind of guided you to make each file, like the main, headers, etc. Ah well, I guess the more you work with them, the more you remember what to include I guess [01:36] wxl: Lemme know what you want me to test in terms of focusing on lubuntu isos. Do you prefer literally testing the "dailies" and are those literally daily beta rolling release isos? [01:37] wxl: I'll check Telegram later and tomorrow morning. Let me know if there's any other major thing you need help with my dude :) [01:53] try to install again, same error [02:02] @HMollerCl [try to install again, same error], Which? [02:02] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FpjWKXxMzt/ [02:03] There it is the complete log [02:03] Yeah wxl messed it up. XD [02:03] But I think is this Hans Möller: ... apparently this is: ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Running "chroot" ("/tmp/calamares-root-7mqh4868", "/bin/sh", "-c", "/bin/false") ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Finished. Exit code: 1 [02:04] Find where bad Walter put /bin/false in the BIOS case of the module and put /bin/true [02:06] Hans Möller: ... I also have an exit code 1 in ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Running "chroot" ("/tmp/calamares-root-7mqh4868", "sh", "-c", "which dracut") ... 2018-10-11 - 22:05:24 [6]: Finished. Exit code: 1 [02:07] Uh oh, that's also wxl's fault. That has to do with the encryption stuff. [02:08] @tsimonq2 [Uh oh, that's also wxl's fault. That has to do with the encryption stuff.], (I think) [02:08] encryption was working before, not sure what changed. [02:08] Anyway, don't trust my opinion right now, I'm going back to bed :) [02:09] get your rest [02:22] dracut shouldn't even be involved [02:24] @TheWendyPower did you not add the icon back? [02:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS21acfae10aa7: Ignore BIOS entirely when installing GRUB for EFI.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS21acfae10aa7 [02:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS87a0d32242fb: Restore Calamares productIcon.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS87a0d32242fb [02:39] oh well ^^ that fixes the icon fail and the bin/false fail [02:40] @HMollerCl regarding dracut i didn't see an error when i installed. i'd need to see your session.log [02:41] go get that uploaded @tsimonq2 [02:42] or can i just build that and do it myself?? [02:43] Test it before I upload. [02:43] k 1s [02:44] We are at the point in the cycle where anything you need me to upload needs thorough testing first. [02:45] Arguably we hit that point after Beta freeze, but... :P [02:45] btw `git checkout $(git rev-list -n 1 HEAD -- /path/to/deleted/file)^ -- /path/to/deleted/file)` is cool [02:46] @VikingRedwolf Can you replace Tips N' Tricks with the Lubuntu Manual in the navbar when you can? [02:47] @tsimonq2 [Test it before I upload.], Testing too. Will let you know. [02:48] @kc2bez he means with the two changes i made in case tht's not obvious [02:48] wxl: irt manual I doubt it's the cronjob that's messed up. I just think I forgot to update where Phab pulls from. So go SSH into the server, find the repo under /srv, check the remotes, and replace it with the HTTPS Phab remote. [02:48] Then use the one liner in the cronjob to update it. [02:48] It SHOULD DTRT [02:49] Yeah. I edited the calamares files. [02:49] @kc2bez [Testing too. Will let you know.], 👍 [02:49] k well i'll let kc2bez do my testing while i do that :) [02:50] yeah you have it set to the launchpad ones booboohead [02:50] I just forgot to update it on Phab. [02:50] The one liner in the cronjob works? [02:50] @@kc2bez you testing encryption? [02:50] working on it, one sec [02:51] @@@@@wxl I think he is. XD [02:51] No but I can. Standby. [02:52] It finished without encryption after I set .bin/false to true [02:52] I can run it again too. [02:53] there's your last commit @lyorian https://manual.lubuntu.me/5/5.4/window_management.html [02:53] @wxl I added it back, did the git push and it wanted me to git pull. The text that read after that made me unsure if it committed at the same time or not. I mentioned that during the meeting. [02:54] @TheWendyPower sorry i guess i didn't grok that. fixed in any case :) [02:54] 👍👍👍 [02:54] @wxl [ there's your last commit @lyorian https://manual.lubuntu.me/5/5.4/window_m …], Now go close the task :) [02:55] already done booboohead [02:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T104: cronjob for manual is important] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T104#2152 [02:55] go do qtwebkit and shush it :) [02:55] I don't trust myself to touch a computer right now. It's also not a simple fix from what I can tell. [02:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa910f0395fdc: Add a note on clock and calendar to right of lxqt-panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa910f0395fdc [02:59] @tsimonq2: i understand and i don't expect anything further out of you tonight but please make that the top priority tomorrow when you're conscious. [03:00] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: i understand and i don't expect anything further out of you ton …], The fix is probably going to be complicated. Your best bet is probably going to be to ask lisandro and mitya57 in #ubuntu-qt. [03:00] lisandro doesn't do Ubuntu stuff as much but he could still be helpful. [03:01] my gut tells me it's a simple issue of bringing the tests up to the level [03:01] Then try it out :) [03:01] (for Telegram users right now #ubuntu-qt is https://t.me/joinchat/DH6s1FJDHJMEyGg4Kk68cA) [03:01] well i still have to figure out this darn metadata :/ [03:02] which reminds me, you gonna no-change rebuild lximage-qt tonight? [03:05] I am good with LUKS too. [03:05] @wxl [ which reminds me, you gonna no-change rebuild lximage-qt tonight?], Not tonight but anyone with upload access can do that (requires no knowledge of the package) [03:06] so i could just ask someone on release team? [03:06] vorlon might still be around or ask sil2100 or Laney if you'll be around in three hours. [03:06] Yeah. [03:06] k [03:06] upload calasettings 25? [03:06] Worst case scenario if nobody bites I'll do it tomorrow. [03:07] @wxl [ upload calasettings 25?], Dude, no computer means no GPG key :) [03:07] Tomorrow [03:07] oh no computer boo [03:07] can i upload it? [03:07] I wish you could [03:07] yeah sigh [03:07] We need to get you MOTU [03:07] i know [03:07] after release [03:08] s/release/release plus mandatory break/ :) [03:11] For members of the Lubuntu team with some sort of title I enforce a mandatory break between the release and the codename being announced unless there's urgent SRUs. It really helps avoid burnout and it makes for good, fresh ideas afterwards. [03:11] :P [03:12] And by "enforce" I mean guilt trip but hey XD [03:14] For everyone else it's just strongly recommended. [03:36] wxl: If you upload what you want sponsored to a PPA I can ask someone else to sponsor. [03:37] Or ginggs is still idling here. [03:37] I'll be up in a few hours anyway but I'm going to take off for a bit. [03:47] Hey so can anyone explain what images need testing? Do I need to literally replace the image I have with one of the dailies? I've been giving the vm I have on virtual box 4 gigs of ram and it ran fine [03:47] Though when I tried to run it again it said I wasn't able to mount it :/ probably bad on my end using Windows 10 with virtual box. I'll see if it has the same issue [03:48] @Wafficus [Hey so can anyone explain what images need testing? Do I need to literally repla …], Right, overwrite the ISO and create a new VM, then do the install over again. [03:48] There's some errata with this daily, but hey. [03:49] Well just run it from the live cd? [03:49] Do I have to install it? [03:49] Just wondering [03:49] I see the premise now though and found the live dailies section [03:49] I don't catch your drift. [03:50] Like can I just boot from this live cd iso image or you guys need me to sit and wait for the installer in virtual box? [03:50] Like is even live cd testing beneficial? [03:50] @Wafficus [Like is even live cd testing beneficial?], It is [03:50] I ask cause I might not have enough time to install it [03:50] Gotcha cool thanks [03:50] However you want to do it, both is valuable. [03:51] Boots like a damn charm with just 4 gigs of ram in vm [03:51] :D [03:51] A frigging dream imo so sick [03:51] This comp has 16 gigs ram though [03:51] @Wafficus [A frigging dream imo so sick], Ikr, I'm proud of it :) [03:51] I usually just record music and play games with it [03:51] Yeah dude so impressed still [03:51] Booted live cd like in less than 1 min [03:51] :D [03:52] Check your PMs real quick @Wafficus [03:53] I'm going to get done sleep but I'll be back in a bit [03:58] Booted in like 15 secs crazy [04:11] Minor thing I'm gonna add to feature request: in Special Effect Settings: make a default button available to reset settings to default. [04:11] Otherwise iso seemed normal to me [04:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL99f48e9327f1: Add doc for volume control] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL99f48e9327f1 [05:18] LenCole was added by: LenCole [05:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbcf03d207a8e: Add icon for on titlebar.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbcf03d207a8e [06:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5794b5784091: Add qterminal on how to move tabs and how to create new windows.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5794b5784091 [06:05] Heya @LenCole o/ [06:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL09d03d209f2c: Add a new screenshot for firefox and fix the chapter version] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL09d03d209f2c [06:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa4afa8a26b52: Add screenshot for ARK and 2048-qt and fix witdh of qterminal screenshot.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa4afa8a26b52 [06:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL743eac13d85d: Fix formating of images.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL743eac13d85d [11:32] In yesterday's daily meta+e and meta+r is configured only for right meta key (or super_r) [12:27] Same errors during installation in 32bits with yesterday's daily [12:32] I noticed that too. There is a bug report as well. Bug 1797530 [12:34] Looks like you found it already @HMollerCl [12:35] yup [12:38] now wait until they find the bin/false issue. [15:55] ginggs: could you do a no-change rebuild of lximage-qt and lxqt-qtplugin? these are all tied into libfm-qt which we recently updated. see here for a comment from upstream https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lximage-qt/+bug/1797478/comments/4 [15:55] Error: Could not get data from Launchpad: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/unit193/junk/bots/ubot93/data/tmp/launchpadlib/api.launchpad.net/cache/.tempoxdqhqfa' (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797478) [15:56] ^^^ Unit193: say what? [15:56] good day wxl [15:56] morning @HMollerCl [15:56] was looking into papirus change [15:57] i've got calamares-settings-ubuntu 25 in a ppa building. hopefully i can get that sponsored [15:57] yessss [15:57] Are there any daily image specific things you guys want me to test this week? Is it still trojita? [15:57] does pcmanfm-qt in "go" (between view and bookmarks) never had icons for network and apps? [15:57] @Wafficus just use everything. everywhere. look for any little bug and file them [15:58] good question. i'm not sure. i guess one could change the icons and find out? [15:58] (Photo, 487x335) https://i.imgur.com/DtEozqC.jpg [15:59] it is strange because places has icons for it. [15:59] yeah i tried nearly everything and no luck [15:59] Look at the code upstream? [16:00] my first question is if that has been so before the papirus change. [16:00] i bet either (A) the code doesn't support the display of icons or (B) the icon themes don't offer an icon of the right type.. but that seems strange [16:01] i believe that's the case, @HMollerCl. certain of it, actually. there's no icon theme that does the trick [16:01] wxl: I only ask cause I opened every program but didn't have an objective on any buggy things you need the most eyes on [16:01] When is cosmic officially released ? [16:02] @Wafficus [When is cosmic officially released ?], Six days [16:02] @wxl [ i believe that's the case, @HMollerCl. certain of it, actually. there's no …], ok, never thought of testing other icon themes. [16:03] also @HMollerCl regarding "Places" note that they are different "types" of icons, i.e. they're not the monochrome ones. [16:03] @Wafficus right now i think we've got most everything sort of resolved (or soon to be resolved) so just trying to really use the heck out of things and find any edge cases is what we need [16:03] BY THE WAY [16:03] yes, the monochromes I believe are the "action" [16:06] also ginggs since @tsimonq2 so graciously namedropped you, could you sponsor the upload of calamares-settings-ubuntu 25? https://launchpad.net/~wxl/+archive/ubuntu/staging/+packages [16:07] oh i figured out how to set an executable as trusted [16:08] where is stored? [16:08] so for the installer it would be: `gio set ~/Desktop/calamares.desktop metadata::trust true` [16:09] wxl: understood. I don't mean to be weird but I'll try my best to use it. I can't stand open office but I'll try haha. I usually use lubuntu for just terminal dev stuff, weechat, w3m, and light web browsing. [16:10] since this is essentially a file attribute, it's a little harder to get to, i.e. it's stored in binary [16:11] in the .desktop? [16:11] with a hexviewer can be seen? [16:11] that said, we're either going to need to set this before running pcmanfm-qt in the installer or we're going to need to copy over whatever binaries in the installer itself which is what siduction is planning on doing. i'm not sure that will be so easy for us since we don't have so much control over the build system [16:12] somewhere, yes. i'm not sure where these binaries are but certainly not calamares.desktop itself which is pure txt [16:12] @Wafficus open office is a separate project. LIBRE office is what we use. [16:18] Oh yeah I forgot [16:18] You're absolutely right [16:24] it may be the case that $XDG_DATA_HOME/gvfs-metadata/ may contain the files we need but it doesn't seem like it's actually stored in such a way that its very readable, even in a hex editor [16:29] wxl: I noticed a qt based game included. Does this mean we could potentially make a game distributed in Lubuntus release? I'm curious if we could come up with some cool small games as a team [16:29] *in yesterday's daily release [16:32] wxl: hi, do you still need calamares-settings-ubuntu uploaded? [16:45] in the spanish group there s one person that the changes in settngs for pcmanf-qt does not persist. [16:45] the owner of the settings.conf is he, not root. [16:46] The only strange thins was that he has a settings.conf.lock file we erased it and the problem persist, any ideas? [17:03] ginggs: yes please [17:03] ginggs: or at least no one else has told me they uploaded it XD [17:04] wxl: looking now... [17:05] ginggs: thx [17:05] @HMollerCl can you reproduce the behavior/ [17:06] nope, I can't [17:06] then my guess is it's a fluke. are they on the latest? libfm-qt/pcmanfm-qt? [17:06] yes [17:07] is it one setting that doesn't persist? or all of them? [17:07] all of them [17:08] purge and install could help? [17:08] or would be worse? [17:09] wxl: . [17:09] i mean it can't make it worse but that's truly bizarre. [17:09] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (cosmic-proposed/universe) [24 => 25] (lubuntu) [17:09] ginggs: you're my hero [17:13] ginggs: did you also see my request for the no-change rebuild of lximage-qt and lxqt-qtplugin? [17:26] @wxl [ i mean it can't make it worse but that's truly bizarre.], making further tests, it is like it doesn read the .confiig file, only the xdg [17:30] wxl: i missed that, will do them now [17:34] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lximage-qt (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.7.0-2build1 => 0.7.0-2build2] (lubuntu) [17:35] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lxqt-qtplugin (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.13.0-0ubuntu4 => 0.13.0-0ubuntu5] (lubuntu) [17:37] wxl: ^ there you go [17:45] thanks ginggs ! [17:45] wxl: yw! [17:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL19e7b5a9c047: Fix 2048-qt chapter number.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL19e7b5a9c047 [18:00] @tsimonq2: so it turns out i think agaida is something something and we'll need to use `gio` to set `metadata::trusted` to the installer desktop before pcmanfm-qt starts. got any brilliant ideas to making that happen? [18:01]