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R13oseBashing-om: how should I copy the folder over?00:00
Bashing-omR13ose: In your case I might suggest that you use the GUI file manager, open 2 windows and drag and drop .00:03
R13oseBashing-om: yes but there are some locked folders and at the moment, my biggest usb drive is 2GB when the folder is around 18GB00:04
Bashing-omR13ose: then there is no solution other than money :P00:05
R13oseBashing-om: yes, get larger usb key, okay.  Yet, what do I do about locked folders in my home folder?00:06
Bashing-omR13ose: locked for read only will not hinder copying .00:08
R13oseBashing-om: permissions on the locked folders say everyone but owner is forbidden.00:10
rfmR13ose, I'm sort of baffled,  If you can't read those folders, what good are they doing and why would you want to keep them?00:11
piesquaredHow do i add a user?  I have sudo, and it must be with commandline00:13
Bashing-omR13ose: So, elevate your pivileges to 'SUper User DO' and copy away .00:13
R13oserfm: true.  I am just unsure which folders I need to get what I said I wanted earlier.  You said they are in home folder but which folders within the user folder?00:14
Wafficushey does anyone know where the mimeapps.list is in Lubuntu?00:16
Bashing-ompiesquared: see: ' man adduser ' .00:17
piesquaredOh.  Thanks.00:17
Bashing-ompiesquared: I would say more, but only you can know what access you want to grant this new user - thus, read the fine manual :P00:19
rfmR13ose, the Opera data is probably in a hidden folder you don't even see in the file manager.  That's why you should copy the entire /home/<user> directory....00:19
R13oserfm: thanks.  I will do that with rsync, right?00:25
rfmR13ose, you will if you do the rsync right...00:29
R13ose...00:30
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alazyworkaholicI'd like to clone a dying disc without buying any new hardware. I have a small 1-disc NAS with a new drive, my laptop with a small drive, and a 1-disc docking station attached to the the laptop via usb with a dying drive. Problem is, I need block device access to use ddrescue. Is nbd the way to go?00:41
R13oseThanks rfm and Bashing-om for the help so far.  I will get a larger usb key, copy files and then swap drives and install Kubuntu.00:43
Bashing-omR13ose: Good plan :P00:43
R13oseIs there a way to use the home drive I put on my usb key instead of putting that on the hdd when I install Kubuntu?00:45
Bashing-omR13ose: Sure, be rather cumbersome to have to plug in the USB each time you boot the system .. and USB drives are fraught with failure .00:48
rfmR13ose, you don't want to, it would be pretty slow00:48
R13oseOkay, I should just copy over the home drive from the usb to HDD once everything is in place?00:54
rfmR13ose, that's what I would do00:54
R13oserfm: over write the home drive that was created when I install Kubuntu on the new HDD?00:55
rfmR13ose, yes, overwrite that, before doing anything else on the new system.00:56
R13oseThanks again00:57
rfmalazyworkaholic, I've never used ddrescue, but reading the manual it sure seems like it can use regular files as well.00:58
rfmalazyworkaholic, maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by a NAS.  Usually those make file systems available (NFS/CIFS) not a block interface.01:00
qwebirc73457Has anyone seen the RC for Cosmic on a mirror anywhere?01:19
core7if one does a fresh install of 18.04 - is there  a script that copies files from 16.04 like /etc/passwd /etc/fstab etc and applies it to the new installation?01:21
tectonI have a general question: if most hardware already ships with Linux inside, why aren't distributions taking advantage of this and giving users control of those hardware OSes?01:23
ryuotecton: because many of them are effectively blackboxes or run very specialized installations not suitable to a general purpose distribution?01:25
ryuoE.g., routers.01:25
tectonI personally don't believe in black boxes, but I understand what you're saying: someone would, for free, have to reverse engineer all the obscuration built in01:26
tectonI'm just thinking: if your HDD has linux inside, wouldn't there be a performance increase to interface with it at the OS level?01:26
ryuotecton: highly doubtful it does. they usually use some proprietary firmware.01:27
tectonAnd wouldn't it also provide you with extra security?01:27
tectonis there an open source hardware movement?01:27
ryuoIn some ways, yes. See RISCV.01:28
tectonI thought that was just a processor instruction set01:28
ryuo... an instruction set is useless without something to run it.01:29
tectonof course... I meant, though, that doesn't extent to hard drives, motherboards, routers, or smart fridges01:29
tectoni like the message behind people like eben moglen, even if he himself is super annoying01:30
ryuotecton: not necessarily. it can be used in such devices.01:31
ryuohard drives have a standardized interface, but the implementation is typically proprietary.01:31
tectoni had heard that riscv chips were super duper expensive01:31
ryuoOFC. it's very new.01:31
ryuoSo are x86 chips, if you compare them to ARM.01:31
tectondo SSDs offer a better basic platform for RISCV or other open source hardware implementation than magnetic mechanical drives?01:32
ryuoNo idea. Both storage devices need some form of controller.01:33
ryuoNot necessarily one with a CPU.01:33
tectonok, thanks for patiently answering my noob qs01:34
ryuotecton: open hardware isn't really likely, though open interfaces is.01:34
alazyworkaholicrfm: I have a Kimax U35WF, it's basically a networked enclosure, but I put openwrt on it so I can ssh into it. Unfortunately, this device isn't yet 'officially' supported, so it refuses to install the needed kmod-nbd module.01:35
tectonthats very disheartening for human society01:35
ryuox86 is usually the main architecture suitable to general purpose distributions...01:35
ryuoARM is a mess here.01:35
tectonat least arm doesn't hae speculative execution01:36
ryuoEvery board has its own idea of how stuff should be exposed.01:36
ryuoincorrect. some ARM cpus have it.01:36
alazyworkaholicrfm: I would run ddrescue on the NAS, but a package isn't available via its package manager.01:36
tectonbummer01:36
ryuoand not all x86 has speculative execution.01:36
ryuoMy n270 is immune because it lacks it.01:37
tectonall modern x86 does tho, right?01:37
ryuotecton: except perhaps the Intel Atoms.01:37
ryuobut anyway.01:37
tectonoh yeah, Atoms.01:37
ryuoAMD is ironically the least effected.01:37
tectonthat was the only recent intel family without it, IIRC01:37
ryuosome people use x86 routers, but it's not very common.01:39
ryuothey're still PC compatible but have different HW design.01:40
ryuotypically have 2+ onboard ethernet and such.01:40
tectonits beginning to look a lot like even security experts can't singlehandedly secure their own systems.01:40
ryuotecton: if you want to get technical, sure... Intel ME is a mess and people usually forget about it.01:41
tectonit's one huge backdoor, innit01:43
alazyworkaholicI have a 2TB drive that's failing (seagate Constellation ES model). I've bought another 2TB drive (seagate Barracuda). They're not identical, so I imagine there may be a slight capacity difference. I know the dying drive's last partition is a few hundered MB of swap. If I dd from one to the other and the new drive is slightly smaller, should the first data partition still copy correctly and be01:43
alazyworkaholicrecognized/readable?01:43
ryuoconsidering it's the basis for vPro, yea... it's very similar to server IPMI.01:44
OldGreggcapital criminals' sophistry trying to invalidate conciencious objectors01:44
ryuoa form of backdoor allowing for remote administration.01:45
ryuothough one that officially exists as a feature.01:45
gt8ost4lBashing-om: i fixed it i installed everything!01:45
gt8ost4lBashing-om: pm i want to know your opinion01:47
gt8ost4lpm me01:47
jairhello all, I am currently using 18.04 64bit with network manager and the weird dns IP > 127.0.0.53 I read I could change it if I installed the tool resolvconf02:04
jairI installed it then I went to the configuration and added the name servers in the tail file, it seems like it added the router IP however, the 127.0.0.53 is still showing up02:06
jairany advice?02:06
jairI am checking in google as well02:06
z01dHi, how do I access this extra '.' in linux: http://codepad.org/0m3RUHQS ??02:26
core7anyone did a fresh install of 18.04 and moved from 16.04 recently?02:37
tatertotsuh..you probably didn't know this but...putting name/dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf isn't going to do what you think or read it will do...not in modern Linux distros at least02:42
tatertotsyou could get away with that years ago....but...things change02:42
tatertotsthus..you still see your router02:42
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tectonGOOD JUH JUH JUH02:51
Gr33nteaHello I installed Ubuntu 18.10 and for some reason, it takes forever to get to the bootscreen then it hangs at the bootscreen for like a minute and then it shows my mouse and the purple login background and then permanently freezes. Any suggestions?02:54
Gr33nteaAlso the reason i opted for 18.10 and not 18.04 is because 18.04 just instantly crashes in the install screen02:55
Gr33nteaI guess I should also mention i have a 1050TI graphics card02:56
Bashing-om!18.10 | Gr33ntea03:08
ubottuGr33ntea: Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) will be the 29th release of Ubuntu.  Release annoucement at https://markshuttleworth.com/archives/152103:08
Bashing-omGr33ntea: support in #ubuntu+1 .03:08
Gr33nteaThanks03:10
Sears`Towerinstalling ubuntu-desktop will install the GNOME version and not Unity, correct?03:19
RoscoePColtraneUh i don't think 18.04 by default uses unity anyway03:33
RoscoePColtranethey stopped doing that as the default03:34
RoscoePColtranei'm sure lot of folks are glad about that too03:34
hggdhSears`Tower: default for 18.04 is Gnome03:34
RoscoePColtraneI think unity was the hip thing canonacal was wanting to do in 16.x03:35
RoscoePColtraneonly for it to NOT be the hip thing to do 2 years later03:35
tectonhow's tha basset hound RoscoePColtrane03:36
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geirhaUnity became the default in 11.04, and switched to GNOME in 17.1006:03
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xenchrarrHi . Many of my programs installed with snap crashes on launch. The only error I get when running then in a terminal is "Segmentation fault (core dumped)07:40
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SakaraI'm using perf to profile an application. My profile doenst have symbols for the kernel. Any idea how I get them? I tried to install the dbgsym package for the generic kernel I have installed but can't find it. Any ideas?08:23
Sakaralooks like dbgsym for the kernel are not created for all kerenls I found some for an older kernel in the repo will try downgrade the kernel and use those08:26
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ph88hey guys, how can i know what went wrong here with installing package? https://bpaste.net/show/a857143ebde408:42
ducasseph88: that package is from a third party repo that we don't support, talk to them08:45
lenny_lemonis it worth to upgrade to 18.04 from 16.04?08:47
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ph88lenny_lemon, sometimes not all packages are ported to 18.04 yet, otherwise it's worth it i think08:50
hashrackhow to extract 7zip files? it says there is no command installed for 7-zip archive files09:17
TaZeRcan i put ubuntu phone on a nexus 6p?09:18
TaZeRi wanna have a puter-phone capable of world damnation09:19
SakaraTaZeR: the ubuntu touch folks are probably in another channle since the ubuntu touch project is now a community project09:19
TaZeRoh i see, do u know what that channel is?09:19
SakaraNot sure. Perhaps check the ubuntu touch site.09:20
Sakaralooks like its #ubuntu-touch09:20
TaZeRsweet thanks09:20
Sakarano probs09:20
Sakarahashrack: there are unoffical package on the 7zip.org website. no idea if they work but maybe worth a try09:21
ducassehashrack: try '7z'09:23
hashrackthanks.. found the solution on https://askubuntu.com/questions/219392/how-can-i-uncompress-a-7z-file09:25
Sakarapopey: you're the only one I've heard knows a thing or two about developing on ubuntu. any ideas if there are kernel debugging symbol packages available for the generic kernel on 18.04?09:25
ducasseTaZeR: it's now handled by the ubports project, in #ubports09:25
TaZeRyep thx got it09:25
popeySakara: does this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages09:25
SakaraThe closest package I've found in those repos is linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-20-generic-dbgsym09:26
ppfisn't that enough?09:26
SakaraIs that repo an offical repo? The system is using now 4.15.0-36-generic it's stuck me as odd that there is a kernel in a repo and no debugging package09:27
Sakaras/stuck/struck09:27
ppfddebs.ubuntu.com is official, yes09:27
SakaraI'd have imagined that the packages for debugging symbols and the kernels shipped would be in lock step09:28
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rockwodi am unable to login my ubuntu09:58
rockwodhelp me please09:59
TimeDoctorrockwod: server or desktop?09:59
rockwodamd 64 bit on my laptop09:59
rockwod18.0409:59
TimeDoctorrockwod: your username and password aren't accepted, right?10:00
rockwodaccepted but not landing on desktop10:00
TimeDoctorrockwod: did you just upgrade to 18.04?10:01
Sakarasomething much have been up I must have missed something the first time. I went through the steps again of adding the repos popey and now the dbgsym package for the kernel I'm using is appearing. Thanks for your suggestion10:01
rockwodafter few seconds back on login screen just10:01
rockwodTimeDoctor: its upgraded months ago10:01
popeySakara: super!10:02
rockwodTimeDoctor: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/06/install-latest-filezilla-ubuntu-16-04/  after this i am unable to login10:03
TimeDoctorrockwod: you just did those steps?10:03
rockwodyes10:03
rockwodTimeDoctor: sorry that was wrong link10:04
TimeDoctorokay10:04
rockwodTimeDoctor: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/  this is10:04
TimeDoctorrockwod: you just installed filezilla, or uninstalled it?10:05
rockwodTimeDoctor: flatpak install --from https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/org.filezillaproject.Filezilla.flatpakref  after this command just10:05
rockwodactually my laptop is old10:06
rockwodand not much supports graphics thing10:06
nisankhindiacan i have few workaround for this https://zerobin.lagout.org/?9c5761307c285fbe#Pz58BGTCalXFJqdmbWzuTz5RxJy5JZu1Mh31PDnnNLU=10:06
TimeDoctorrockwod: do you have another machine that you can ssh into your laptop from?10:06
rockwodi can reboot it10:07
rockwodi noticed my user also locked10:07
TimeDoctorrockwod: try ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to a terminal10:07
TimeDoctoroh your account is locked?10:08
rockwodctrl+alt+f2 now i am on terminal10:09
TimeDoctorrockwod: you were able to login?10:09
rockwodasking for username10:09
rockwodroot also can i try here?10:09
TimeDoctorroot login should be disabled10:10
nisankhindiarockwod: what's your issue ??? please mention platform , packages used for and your desired outcome10:10
rockwodTimeDoctor: i am in10:10
TimeDoctorrockwod: great!10:10
rockwodbut in trminal10:10
TimeDoctorrockwod: so your username and password are still fine, something is busted with your graphical setup10:10
TimeDoctorsomeone else should be able to help you from here, ctrl+alt+F7 should get you back to graphical land10:11
TimeDoctorI don't know anything about debugging modern login issues, unfortunately10:11
TimeDoctorwell, I'd look at every log file until I figured it out10:12
rockwodwait i have idea just uninstall just installed stuff10:12
TimeDoctorinstalling filezilla really shouldn't have broken anything but it is worth a shot10:12
nisankhindiarockwod: could you please send the details of your desired function , what packages you have installed or used and the distribution details10:13
rockwodnisankhindia: app india se ho kya?10:14
nisankhindiarockwod: yes but i don't understand hindi10:14
rockwodokay no issue10:15
rockwodactually i have installed http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/10:15
nisankhindiarockwod: for what purpose ??10:15
TimeDoctorit's a file transfer client10:16
rockwodjust install filezilla10:16
rockwodyes10:16
nisankhindiarockwod: i know its a thirdparty FTP client but now in what purpose you are facing what type of issue10:17
nisankhindiarockwod: is it not working or whather you are facing any issue while login into any FTP server or you are not able to access ftp services etc ???10:18
rockwodactually my old filezilla client was creating problem in connectivity that why i uninstalled that and install new onw10:19
rockwodnisankhindia:10:19
nisankhindiarockwod: ok after new one installed / loaded what happens now10:19
rockwodi couldn't login in graphical mode10:20
nisankhindiarockwod: whats your desktop environment : gnome , unity , kde etc etc10:21
rockwodgnome10:21
nisankhindiarockwod: do your distribution have UFW package installed10:23
rockwodcan i restore my recent backup by terminal?10:23
nisankhindiarockwod: what this show in output : apt search ufw10:24
nisankhindiarockwod: installed or just the package name + version10:24
rockwodnisankhindia: https://ibb.co/jJxKg910:27
nisankhindiarockwod: ok , now let me see your filezilla log , probably it is here in /var/log/filezilla.log10:28
rockwodsaying no such file or directory10:30
rockwodactually i uninstalled that too10:30
nisankhindiarockwod: filezilla common issue are like lack of /bin/bash shell for user causes “login incorrect” for ftp with filezilla10:31
nisankhindiaGUI10:31
rockwodso now?10:32
BluesKajHey folks10:32
nisankhindiarockwod: first possible solution disable UFW10:33
rockwodhow can i that?10:33
rockwodby what command?10:33
nisankhindiarockwod : or may be the target ftp server have not implemented the shell for user for ftp with filezilla10:34
nisankhindiarockwod: sudo systemd disable ufw10:34
TimeDoctorwait what10:36
nisankhindiarockwod: what was the responce code from filezilla .. is it Response:   53010:36
nisankhindiarockwod: just try once using filezilla and check the responce code10:36
TimeDoctorisn't rockwod just trying to login to their laptop through the GUI? I don't think it's a problem with using filezilla10:37
TimeDoctorthey can't even login to use it, as far as I can tell10:37
nisankhindiarockwod: than you have to give us details of the target machine where you are trying to access FTP service ..10:38
TimeDoctorthey can't log in to their laptop10:38
TimeDoctorthat's the problem10:38
TimeDoctornot over FTP10:38
TimeDoctorthis isn't about a firewall on their laptop10:39
TimeDoctorit's gnome or whatever crashing after they login10:39
TimeDoctorand sending them back to the login screen10:39
nisankhindiarockwod: he told me about ftp access using filezilla ... not about others10:39
nisankhindiarockwod : is your problem is something like Unable to start with graphical mode of desktop , or it is Filezilla GUI login ... make it clear10:41
rockwodyes10:41
rockwodyes --> Unable to start with graphical mode of desktop10:42
nisankhindiarockwod: ok now you are at point install dconf package10:42
rockwoddconf package?10:43
rockwodshould i sudo systemd disable ufw?10:44
TimeDoctorno10:44
rockwodokay10:44
rockwodnow what is next task for me10:44
rockwod?10:44
nisankhindiarockwod: forget all previous , that because of miscommunication , now just install dconf package10:44
nisankhindiarockwod: than you have to remove few things and have to create some backups , i will tell you next10:45
rockwodokay10:45
rockwodinstall first and after it info you am right?10:46
rockwodnisankhindia: https://www.linuxhelp.com/how-to-install-dconf-editor-on-ubuntu-18-04/ right link?10:47
nisankhindiarockwod: sudo apt install dconf-cli dconf-tools10:47
nisankhindiarockwod: whenever you are confused about package name than use two commands apt search <name> or apt-cache search <name>10:48
rockwodnisankhindia: installed10:49
rockwodnow10:50
nisankhindiarockwod: whats your ubuntu release ?? is it 18.04 or ???10:51
rockwod18.0410:51
nisankhindiarockwod: now you have to remove few gnome things (mostly configurations ) , wait10:51
nisankhindiarockwod: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*10:52
rockwodis it full command?10:53
nisankhindiarockwod: yes , try this , it may show error but execute it10:54
nisankhindiarockwod: now possibly you can reset default for gnome using:  sudo dconf reset -f /org/gnome/ or if that does not work reset gnome full : sudo dconf reset -f / and restart the system10:55
rockwodnisankhindia:   this to need to type n command ---> thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*10:56
rockwodstill this command is execting rm: cannot remove .cache/dconf & dbus permission denied10:59
rockwodafter sudo done10:59
nisankhindiarockwod: try to read here ( password is readnow ) https://zerobin.lagout.org/?e2e25bc59c4f5801#lEW/w/rZkfYRDGKnJlAmx8vV3Vtgozk49e9dh7uuM1I=11:00
rockwodsudo dconf reset -f /org/gnome/  and  sudo dconf reset -f / not runing11:02
nisankhindiarockwod: resinstall the dconf package11:03
rockwodnisankhindia: https://ibb.co/ifSzW911:04
nisankhindiarockwod: you have mistyped . leave a space between -f and /11:05
rockwodno effect11:06
nisankhindiarockwod: wait something is wrong ... let me see more ..11:06
tomreynnisankhindia: they did, during the final run. the problem is a diffierent one: this is not an X11 session, and no DISPLAY to operate on was provided.11:06
tomreynwouldn't it be a much better approach to try to undo the changes that rockwod made which caused this situation in the first place?11:07
nisankhindiatomreyn: i have seen that11:07
tomreynor to create a new user (with an ampty home directoy) and see whether this user can login graphically?11:08
tomreyn*empty11:08
rockwodand on login screen i noticed user is disabled type11:08
rockwodnow what should i do?11:09
tomreynrockwod: it could help if you would show a screenshot of this login screen.11:09
rockwodokay11:09
tomreynrockwod: also, did you (try to?) undo the changes you made which triggered the issue?11:09
nisankhindiarockwod: show the GDM login screen11:10
tomreyn... i.e. the changes discussed at http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/11:10
rockwodsystem is auto rebooted11:10
AnticomHi guys. We've got a virtual ubuntu 18 server running and while i was on vacation someone f'ed with the server. There's some weird shenanigans going on, it seems to be having mounted the fs in some sort of ro mode. for example a simple TAB-completion doest work and i get the error "-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system"11:10
tomreynrockwod: are you saying that your computer just rebooted without you requesting it?11:11
AnticomI tried diagnosing the issue but i didn't get anywhere. Any ideas how to figure out what's wrong and how to fix it?11:11
tomreynAnticom: there is no "ubuntu 18"11:11
JimBuntuAnticom, checked dmesg, history or tried rebooting yet?11:11
rockwodtomreyn: yes11:11
Anticomtomreyn: ? 18.04 LTS...11:12
tomreynrockwod: did it do so before, does it do so regularly?11:12
AnticomJimBuntu: The other guys did try to do that11:12
tomreynAnticom: thanks for being precise.11:12
rockwodtomreyn: no first time11:12
JimBuntu<insert joke about 12.04>11:12
Anticomtomreyn: well i thought it was obvious enough ;)11:13
tomreynAnticom: it's not 18.10 will be released soon, and there are people using pre-release versions already.11:13
Anticomtomreyn: touche11:14
nisankhindiarockwod: as per common issue list : Cannot autolaunch D-bus without X11 $DISPLAY , possible solutions mentioned :      Reinstalling ubuntu-desktop     Resetting unity/gnome (using Unity/gnome Tweak Tool - this resulted in a cannot autolaunch D-Bus error)11:14
JimBuntuAnticom, did they also try fsck? Is there any data that needs to be backed up? If so, please do so. Since you were away and 'history' didn't show anything... I'm going to suggest the only 'safe' option it to recreate the system... no way to know what RATS may have been installed11:14
rockwodnisankhindia: tomreyn https://ibb.co/cSYRdp11:14
tomreyn<tomreyn> rockwod: also, did you (try to?) undo the changes you made which triggered the issue? ... i.e. the changes discussed at http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/11:14
AnticomJimBuntu: well another issue is that there's a 2nd drive emulated which i can't mount for some reason11:14
AnticomJimBuntu: mount is telling me that it's mounted already but it won't show up in "df"11:15
rockwodi unstalled just filezilla11:15
JimBuntulsblk ?11:15
rockwodtomreyn: i uninstalled just filezilla11:15
tomreynrockwod: where on this screen can we see that the user account is disabled?11:15
nisankhindiarockwod: can you change the dekstop session from the login screen ,, what is your default desktop session says on the login screen11:16
JimBuntuAnticom, again though,m unknown things done to the system while you were away, I wouldn't trust it11:16
rockwodtomreyn: see the menu of left side11:16
rockwodor right11:16
rockwodupper side11:16
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tomreynrockwod: i see the menu on the top right, what about it?11:17
rockwodafter putting password after few mints it will be back on same screen11:17
rockwodnitin sharma is unclickable11:17
rockwodits something like locked11:17
rockwodtomreyn:11:17
tomreynrockwod: right, you're not locked in, so configuring your wireless network link is not yet possible. this does not mean that your user account is locked or disabled.11:18
tomreyns/locked in/logged in/11:18
nisankhindiaas i can see the solution provided for ubuntu common issue list : Cannot autolaunch D-bus without X11 $DISPLAY , possible solutions mentioned :      Reinstalling ubuntu-desktop     Resetting unity/gnome (using Unity/gnome Tweak Tool - this resulted in a cannot autolaunch D-Bus error)11:18
AnticomJimBuntu: Well since it was an almost virgin system i think my most viable option is to just start over again11:19
tomreynrockwod: i suggest you continue undoing the installation you did previously, then reboot and try to login again.11:19
nisankhindiarockwod: do you have dual graphics ???11:20
tomreynrockwod: you will need to switch to a textual temrinal and login there to do so. press ctrl-alt-f3 for starters.11:20
rockwodhey tomreyn logged in now11:21
nisankhindiarockwod: solved !!!11:21
rockwodlet me once more restart it11:22
rockwodbut destop looks very old stylish11:22
rockwoddesktop11:22
nisankhindiarockwod: thats because from the previous all the settings that made by you have been deleted , mainly the configuration done by you11:23
tomreynrockwod: can you be more precise than "oldstylish"? maybe another screen shot.11:23
rockwodokay11:23
rockwodstarting up11:23
tomreynnisankhindia: see, i think it would have been better not to carry out destructive changes right away.11:24
nisankhindiatomreynL i have suggested him based on UBUNTU COMMON ISSUE LIST11:25
tomreynnisankhindia: i'm not aware of this list11:25
nisankhindiatomreyn: read ubuntu wiki11:25
tomreynnisankhindia: can you provide the url?11:25
OerHeksi think he points at the releasenotes/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues11:26
nisankhindiahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/TroubleShootingGuide11:26
rockwodtomreyn: nisankhindia https://ibb.co/czwtr911:26
nisankhindiarockwod: you have now a working DE GUI so now adjust and arrange the thing as you wish11:27
nisankhindiagood luck11:27
tomreynnisankhindia: thanks. i don't see "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*" listed there nor "sudo dconf reset -f /" - where is this from?11:29
nisankhindiatomreyn: gnome wiki troubleshooting guide ( resetting desktop environment and gnome using terminal )11:30
tomreyntomreyn: this looks like gnome 3 to me (default ubuntu 18.04 desktop), but it's a bit small and blurry, so i can't be sure.11:30
Rockwoodtomreyn, now i am on that machine11:30
Rockwoodtomreyn, http://i.imgur.com/W83eI9h.png]%20[img]http://imgur.com/W83eI9hl.png11:31
nisankhindiarockwod: if you do face such issue in further future first try to read REDHAT gnome troubleshoting guide ( as most of the developer of gnome are from redhat )11:32
tomreynnisankhindia: i see, so actually a different resource. those commands are probably useful. i just think it would have been better to roll back the changes rockwood made as a first strategy, since they said those very changes introduced the issue. and apparently undoing them also undid the issue.11:32
Rockwoodsure i will keep it in mind11:32
Dexarvhi all11:33
tomreynRockwood: oh that's xfce. i don't know whether that's what you mean to run. if not, you can logout and switch to gnome by clicking on the small preferences whell next to the login button.11:33
Rockwoodokay11:33
Dexarvwhat do i need to install if i want to code in nodejs, and how?11:33
Rockwoodlet me try once more11:34
nisankhindiaDexarv: please ref to nodjs developer website and read the guides and doc , it is ubuntu support related channel ...11:35
coconutDexarv: atom does that, and maybe some more.11:35
Dexarvoh11:35
DexarvI'll try11:36
Dexarvthanks11:36
coconutnp11:36
nisankhindiaDexarv: programing things like nodjs etc etc depends on your logic , systax not based on tools , any text editor could be used11:36
nisankhindiahttps://zerobin.lagout.org/?9c5761307c285fbe#Pz58BGTCalXFJqdmbWzuTz5RxJy5JZu1Mh31PDnnNLU= .. first one flooded my dmesg output , second one is related to acerwmi.c of acer WMI driver of kernel , so can anybody post something to overcome the issue ( it is harmless issue ) but still11:42
Rockwoodnisankhindia, tomreyn thanks11:48
Rockwoodi am happy now11:48
Rockwoodone more issue i wanna install file transfer client now11:48
tomreynRockwood: i'd still be worried about the computer rebooting all of a sudden. this usually points at hardware or critical kernel issues (which are very rare). maybe it's worth reviewing your /var/log/syslog* around the time it happened.11:49
tomreynRockwood: so you need an ftp client, or will an ssh client work, too?11:50
nisankhindiaacer-wmi.c of acer WMI driver of kernel in ubuntu has an issue u8 return error ( it return unknown function in acer laptops with 4.15.0-38-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 10 10:59:38 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux )11:50
nisankhindiaif anyone has idea on this we can discuss11:50
nisankhindiarockwod: whats your output if you excute this cat  /proc/sys/kernel/panic11:52
Rockwoodtomreyn, /var/log/syslog bash: /var/log/syslog: Permission denied11:52
Rockwoodnisankhindia, 011:52
Rockwood0 is the output of cat  /proc/sys/kernel/panic11:52
nisankhindiarockwod: passed , now check last log of boot and reboot11:53
Rockwoodtomreyn, ftp client with upgraded version11:53
nisankhindiarockwod: type command : last reboot11:54
Rockwoodnisankhindia, /var/log/syslog bash: /var/log/syslog: Permission denied11:55
Rockwoodhow to pastbin for that11:56
nisankhindiarockwod: you can check all these diagnosys methods in ubuntu troubleshoting guide ( or any SAG guide for linux ) you can play around these while your free time , to get idea about why it's reboot at sudden or etc ..11:57
Rockwoodnisankhindia, cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit i run this11:58
nisankhindiarockwood: and on the point where you said you want to install something related package ( may be ftp client etc ) ... do use apt search or apt-cache search to get list of packages favailable for you ( stable one is good for users )11:59
Rockwoodokay11:59
tomreynRockwood: there have not been newer versions of the ftp protocol for a looong time. it's a very old and mostly insecure protocol.11:59
Rockwoodtomreyn, nisankhindia http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WZQV8sFqCw/12:00
nisankhindiarockwood: say you dont know what package is available for your relase and distribution than just pass an command using terminal : apt search ftp , it will show you list of packages and you  can choose the required one from there12:00
cim209Rockwood, you can run this command: cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 999912:00
Rockwoodcim209, thanks http://termbin.com/i6eb12:01
Rockwoodnisankhindia, tomreyn me too dont like ftp client12:01
Rockwoodssh access is not possible on my server current server12:02
tomreynRockwood: what do you want me to look for on this log?12:02
Rockwoodjust chking the cause of sudden restart12:03
nisankhindiarockwood: you have file manager in every DE ( gnome , xfce , kde etc ) that is fully capable with online accounts , ftp , webdav etc etc , so better your your default file manager or something nautilus , dolphin , nemo etc12:03
tomreynRockwood: then it would be usefule to know the log time when it took place.12:03
Rockwoodokay12:03
Rockwoodnisankhindia, tomreyn still i am confuse in choose file transfer client12:04
tomreynRockwood: i don't know which criteria you are trying to meet, so can't recommend a specific one. normally, for the FTP protocol, any of the more common FTP clients and even most default graphical file browsers should work fine.12:06
tomreyn(i would consider filezilla to be one of the more common ftp clients.)12:07
tomreynyou said something wasn't working using the version of filezilla found in ubuntu?12:07
pikapikaHey12:43
pikapikaDoes anyone know where whisker menu actually stores its entries?12:43
pikapikaThere are a bunch of .desktop files, rather than copying and clicking repeatedly into the gui menu editor, I'd prefer if I can somehow just copy them somehow with some minimal changes12:44
TJ-pikapika: for system packages, /usr/share/applications/ and for user-added $HOME/.local/share/applications/12:46
pikapikaThanks TJ- it saved me a lot of work!12:57
carlgustavhi@all, does anybody know of an network speed issue that maybe started one or two weeks ago after a normal system update? (xubuntu 18.04)13:03
carlgustavit seems my networkspeed got capped to about 10MB/s on single downloads, but the overall speed with multiple files seems fine13:04
carlgustavusing a live-cd the speed is just fine, aswell as on the other devices on the network13:06
carlgustavi'm sorry i know it says support for ubuntu only, but i couldn't find any resolution anywhere13:08
lotus|NUCxubuntu support falls under official flavors, its ok mate13:09
lotus|NUCcarlgustav: wich kernel are you on and wich chipset is that?13:09
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carlgustavit's 4.15.0-36-generic13:10
carlgustavand a i5-7200U laptop13:12
TJ-carlgustav: are you sure you've not installed some kind of TC (traffic control/shaping) application/service on that PC?13:14
TJ-carlgustav: and does the limit affect everything (including wget/curl) or just 1 or 2 applications (or protocols) ?13:15
carlgustavTJ- no i didn't install anything alike13:15
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carlgustavyes i tried everything i could think of, including wget13:16
TJ-carlgustav: is it a wired interface, or wireless?13:16
TJ-carlgustav: could it be limited at the network gateway device? There could be a per-port/per-stream limit being applied13:16
carlgustavit's really strange, i download the exact same speedtest file from leaseweb (10Gbit) from different machines and on this laptop it's limited to 10MB/s13:17
carlgustavit's all wired13:18
TJ-carlgustav: is there another network you can test it on, e.g. a friends, or a cafe/public wifi? That'd help determine if it is something on the PC, or something on your network13:18
TJ-carlgustav: if it doesn't affect the laptop booted with the liveISO boot, then I'd guess it is something configured on the PC itself, OR, related to the IP address the PC gets from the gateway (in which case the limit could be on the gateway)13:19
carlgustavhmm, well i could yes, but does using a live-cd or changeing the mac-address rule that out?13:20
TJ-carlgustav: do you personally control the network gateway device?13:20
carlgustavyes, it's in my home network, and it's just this machine, and it started sometime last week, probably after a system update, so i guess some cfg got modified, but i don't know where else to look13:22
TJ-carlgustav: OK, so you'd know if traffic shaping had been configured on the gateway.13:23
TJ-carlgustav: you've not installed something like wondershaper, niceshaper, fireqos have you?13:24
carlgustavwell at least i can kinda rule out my router, right? i even resetted it to factory def13:24
TJ-carlgustav: sounds correct :)13:25
_0x00rickanyone ever had troubles with unicode/german character rendering in a terminal and knows a fix? especially for ubuntu-budgie?13:26
TJ-_0x00rick: I'd guess that would depend on which font is in use13:28
_0x00rickTJ-: Source Code Pro for Powerline Regular13:30
_0x00ricki would think the powerline font does not have problems with glyphs and such13:30
_0x00rickcorrection: its a problem in weechat not the terminal itself13:33
TJ-_0x00rick: possibly related to https://github.com/powerline/fonts/issues/278 ?13:33
_0x00ricktried without powerline fonts. it seems related to weechat13:34
_0x00ricktime to figure our how I can change the used charset or something13:35
gem_cathello, I am still trying to setup lamp in bionic, it mistly wirks but now i want to update joomla and it refuses. After a long time it comes back with am error "..improper logon" which makes me think it is something to do with the urls and having to do with ubuntu. I know I can manually copy the files but I want the 'update' button in Joomla to work, is that asking too much?13:38
TJ-gem_cat: that sounds like a joomla issue13:40
blackflowgem_cat: for home/testing use you might want that. for production on public internet? you do not want that.13:40
gem_catI have explored that but I think either I have shot myself in the foot or it is peculiar to bionic13:41
blackflowgem_cat: for the most part it's a question of whether the PHP process can modify the .php files (which is why you don't want that in production), so depending on how you've set it up, the php proces must have the permission/ownership to do so.13:42
gem_catblackflow, I want to get my site working local before I put it on my web server13:43
blackflowgem_cat: then you might want to put in place an upgrade procedure that doesn't involve PHP changing its own code.13:44
gem_catblackflow, the php on my localhost is mine alone - in the webserver I only need to select joomla and everything is set up for me13:44
blackflow"select joomla"?13:44
gem_catthe host has a wizard for that13:45
gem_catbut the content is up to me13:45
blackflowcontent is irrelevant. that it's Joomla, is irrelevant too. the bottom line is, if you want a <php application> to modify its own .php files -- which is NOT adviseable -- then the user it runs as needs ownership/permission to do so. something tells me your host is a shared host cpanel centos thingy where you probably can't do any of that.13:46
gem_catI know that joomla will run properly on my hosted site, I want it to run on my localhost too13:47
blackflowyou'll have to define "properly". for example, you can run PHP as www-data, part of apache process itself. Or you can set up php-fpm and interface via fastcgi between the web server and FPM.13:48
blackflowin fact the user it runs to is irrelevant and configurable, point being that with fpm you can have them separate.13:49
gem_catjoomla is not designed to alter any files outside the www directory which is proper for bionic as i understand it13:49
blackflow(but for local development you might want to run as your user so you can modify the files freely)13:49
blackflowgem_cat: that's pretty much irrelevant. in case of security vulnerabilities, "designed for" becomes irrelevant too.13:50
blackflowso this is really a matter of configuration -- how you set up PHP to run under the web server.13:50
gem_catok I may have some unlearning to do, i tried this befor about 20 years ago and things have changed13:51
blackflowI'm sure the situationw as the same 20 years ago :)   a process needs permission to change files. if you want PHP to self-upgrade, the running interpreter process UID needs that permission.13:52
blackflow*was the13:52
blackflowand I've put it wrong. not PHP to upgrade itself, but PHP applications to upgrade/change their own .php files.13:53
TJ-gem_cat: the easiest way, if the permissions on the directories are read-onnly for the joomla process UID, is to temporaily add an ACL using setfacl whilst doing the upgrade, then remove the ACL after13:54
blackflowthe easiest way is to run joomla's offline upgrade tool -- iirc it has one -- and not do it from the application itself.13:55
blackflowI see there's no package for Joomla? Even more so it depends on how you set it up and there's no out of the box setup specific to Ubuntu.13:57
gem_catthere are many conflicting instructions online, I think you have the answer blackflow but i dont like it because then every time joomla updates i will have to exit and do an operation13:58
blackflowgem_cat: you might not like it but it's a responsible thing to do. be a good netizen and don't help bad guys compromise your boxes (which then in turn launch attacks on others online).13:59
blackflowif you want to be a bad netizen, unpack joomla in a dir, chown -R  the whole docroot as www-data  -- assuming PHP runs as www-data, or use whatever user it runs as -- and enjoy your soon to be pwned box.14:00
gem_catic14:01
ezzieyguywufis there anyone here that is familiar with packaging? I'm trying to figure out what I need to change in my debian/* configuration files in order to have my headers and libraries installed in sub-directories of /usr/include and /usr/libs14:07
ezzieyguywufmy project uses cmake, and my default it installs in /usr/local/include and /usr/local/libs, no sub-directory. However, it appears that in ubuntu most (all?) packages install their headers/library files in a subdirectory of the package name, i.e. /usr/libs/MyPackage/libMyPackage.so14:08
ezzieyguywufI'd like to duplicate this feature when packaging my project in a deb, however I'd like to keep the upstream default of not utilizing sub-directories14:08
OerHeksezzieyguywuf, if you don't find an answer here, maybe #ubuntu-packaging is your help14:09
ezzieyguywufOerHeks: I'll try that next, thanks for the tip14:09
OerHeksi am not into packaging myself :-(14:09
ezzieyguywufhah, much less folks in there. I'll re-post my question nonetheless though14:10
gem_catblackflow, thank you, I am still learning.14:15
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: are you using the debhelper (dh) tooling in the package debian/rules ?14:17
ezzieyguywufTJ-: yes14:18
ezzieyguywufI've tried using the debian/MyPackage.install file, however it seems that dh_auto_install gets in the way since my cmake configuration generates a `make install` target14:18
ezzieyguywufso files get moved and then they're not there when dh_install get's called14:18
gem_catblackflow, https://docs.joomla.org/J3.x:Errors_in_2.5.26,_3.2.6,_and_3.3.5 says it is a bug in joomla14:19
ezzieyguywufi.e. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32269619/dpkg-buildpackage-error-missing-files-usr-include14:19
blackflowgem_cat: possibly, but the php process ownership/permissions condition still applies.14:19
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: generally you'd control the final location of files by a debian/<binary-pkg>.install file, which is used by dh_install14:23
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: you can override the dh_auto_install if needed14:24
ezzieyguywufTJ-: what if my package does not include a binary, but only libraries?14:24
ezzieyguywufdebian<mypackage>-dev.install is what I've tried using, but per that SO I linked, it is failing14:24
ezzieyguywufTJ-: how do I override this?14:24
ezzieyguywufin debian/rules?14:24
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: "binary" means a binary package (the package downloaded by the user), not an executable file.14:30
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gpI am running an Ubuntu 18.04 VM under Hyper-V.  I have assigned a 127gb expanding drive.  But Ubuntu vm is showing 100% full at 3.9gb.  Any quick tips before I destroy and start over with a fix sized disk?14:31
ezzieyguywufTJ-: that makes sense. Nonetheless, it doesn't change the fact that utilizing debian/<binary-pkg>.install is not working for me due to dh_auto_install14:31
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: if dh_auto_install is used the files should be written under debian/tmp/ - you can then use dh_install to move files to a final package-dir OR use dh-exec to relocate/rename files. See "man dh_install" and its LIMITATIONS section14:32
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: it sounds like you need dh-exec - however, the make step should be setting the native build system's prefix correctly so it is prefix=/usr not prefix=/usr/local - so I think you should investigate that part first14:34
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: are you calling dh_auto_configure (see its man-page for details)14:35
gpnm lv was set to wrong size for some reason by the installer. lvextend fixed it14:47
gem_catblackflow, I just unpacked the update to my documents/joomla and copied it in place using midnight commander, it looks like it works perfectly.14:48
IarlaHi folks. I have a script that uses avconv, which was a part of ffmpeg. Not any more it seems. Any idea where/how I can get it back on a 16.04 installation?14:50
gem_catthanks all and goodnite14:50
Iarlalooks like it's part of libav-tools.14:55
ezzieyguywufTJ-: mostly I'm using dpkg-buildpackage, which as I understand it calls dh_auto_install and friends14:55
ezzieyguywufTJ-: Well, actually I've been using 'bzr', which in turn calls 'dpkg-buildpackage'. I'm currently trying to do this 'by hand' using dpkg-buildpackage to resolve this issue14:56
ezzieyguywufTJ-: I've not taken the next stepp and started calling dh_build and friends manually though, as I'm not quite sure the best way to do this14:56
Rockwoodi am looking substitute filezilla client14:57
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: right, but dpkg-buildpackage uses the debian/rules Makefile you've got, so you need to make changes there14:57
Rockwoodftp client outdated stuff that why14:58
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: do you have a git repo somewhere I can clone to look at it?14:58
lotus|NUCRockwood: whats your purpose mate?14:58
Rockwoodfor web developed14:58
lotus|NUCRockwood: uploading your files to the server?14:59
Rockwoodyes14:59
ezzieyguywufTJ-: I do, but it doesn't contain my debian folder14:59
ezzieyguywufTJ-: let me add it and upload, just a sec14:59
lotus|NUCRockwood: sftp perhaps?14:59
Rockwoodsftp is not free15:00
Rockwoodanymore?15:00
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: I generally keep a separate branch for the packaging (./debian/ )15:01
ezzieyguywufTJ-: https://gitlab.com/ezzieyguywuf/OccWrapper/tree/debian_packaging15:02
ezzieyguywufTJ-: lol, I was thinking the same. except I named it debian_packaging15:02
lotus|NUC!info sitecopy | Rockwood can this help15:04
ubottuRockwood can this help: sitecopy (source: sitecopy): program for managing a WWW site via FTP, SFTP, DAV or HTTP. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:0.16.6-7build1 (bionic), package size 116 kB, installed size 356 kB15:04
ezzieyguywufTJ-: the occwrapper-dev.install file is empty now, but previously I've tried this with `usr/lib/*.so /usr/lib/OccWrapper` as well as `/usr/lib/OccWrapper` in occwrapper-dev.dirs. this would create the empty /usr/lib/OccWrapper but not install my library files there15:06
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: look at the last lines of debian/rules - what you need has been auto-generated but commented out. remove the comments15:06
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: as in you need "       dh_auto_configure --  -DCMAKE_LIBRARY_PATH=$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)"15:06
Rockwooddconf-WARNING **: 20:35:42.233: Unable to open /home/nitin/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share/dconf/profile/user: Permission denied15:06
ezzieyguywufTJ-: this sounds promising. I'll try that.15:08
ezzieyguywufTJ-: I saw that before, but left it alone because I wasn't sure what it would do15:08
TomyWorkhi15:08
ezzieyguywufTJ-: will this also install the header files in a sub-directory?15:08
ezzieyguywufTJ-: also, while I'm asking questions (and since you seem to have some experience): I'm currently building this package by (1) downloading a tarbal, (2) using bzr to create debian folder, (3) modifying debian folder, (4) using bzr to build package15:09
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TomyWorkjust so i don't try to boot into a system without a kernel on monday: I had muon software updater fail a kernel update, presumably because i lack /boot space. I ran the janitor from ubuntu tweak and told it to throw away all old kernels.15:10
TomyWorknow my guess is it also retried the configure on the new kernel15:10
TomyWorkbut i didn't see the logs for that15:10
ezzieyguywufTJ-: it souds like your workflow is a bit different, as you keep your debian folder in a branch in your project folder. Do you just use dpkg-buildpackage directly? i.e. (1) checkout debian branch, (2) update debian/changelog, (3) run dpkg-buildpackage ?15:10
ezzieyguywufTJ-: if so - do you do this in some sort of automated fashion, or is it manual each time?15:11
TomyWorkcan i check beforehand whether i have at least one kernel correctly installed and registered with grub?15:11
TomyWorkwithout rebooting15:11
TJ-ezzieyguywuf: debian and ubuntu generally keep the packaging branches separate, to allow import of the pristine original source15:12
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TJ-TomyWork: generally, ensure there are matching versions for /boot/vmlinuz-* and /boot/initrd.img-* AND that the files are complete. Best way is to re-generate using "update-initramfs -u" and "update-grub" - GRUB will NOT add a menu entry for kernel that does not have a matching initrd.img-* file, but it will if there is a zero-length or truncated initrd.img15:14
TomyWorkTJ- looks like i have both my currently running and the latest kernel15:18
TomyWorkboth initrds are the same size15:18
TomyWorkalso, both vmlinuzes are the same size15:18
skinuxAnyone by chance know how to fix Foxit Reader not having a top border that contains close button?15:19
TomyWorkindicating that they're probably either both truncated or neither of them is15:19
skinuxI tried a search, but got a bunch of stuff about installing it15:19
TomyWorki wouldn't know. if you're looking for a good pdf reader for linux, i use okular15:19
TomyWorkhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Reader#Issues woah, you should really reconsider using that thing15:20
TomyWorkand okular has a fullscreen mode (ctrl-shift-f) and a presentation mode (ctrl-shift-p). neither of them have a close button on the top border and one of them might fit your use case15:23
TomyWorkone caveat though: it's KDE, so unless you're using kubuntu, it might drag in a ton of dependencies for you15:24
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TJ-TomyWork: to check the kernel images for correctness: " pushd /; for md5 in /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*md5sums; do sudo md5sum -c $md5; done; popd "15:27
TJ-TomyWork: for individual packages, you can also use "sudo dpkg --verify <packagename>" but it doesn't print anything, it just returns 0 on success, non-zero on a failure  (to see return code use "echo $?" immediately after it returns)15:31
TomyWorkthat doesn't check the compiled kernel images though15:31
TJ-TomyWork: huh?15:32
TomyWorkoh wait it does15:32
TJ-TomyWork: the kernel images are all compiled - they're executables after all15:32
TomyWorkyeah for a second there i was out of my mind and dreaming that kernel compilation would be done on the fly, in seconds15:32
TJ-TomyWork: hehehe you must have the luxury of a build farm :)15:33
TomyWorknot sure that'd even help15:34
TomyWorklinking probably takes longer already15:34
TomyWorki don't know, is linking parallelizable?15:34
TJ-It does; I use distcc with kernel builds, and with a massively multi-core host make runs lots of parallel jobs15:34
TomyWorkTJ- but it can't possibly make compilation as fast as installing, right?15:39
TJ-TomyWork: No, I doubt it could :)15:43
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tripelbHello, Here I am with 18.-4 and I have some "minor" problems. ONE: Hexchat. I have used it before. For year. Suddenly I cant get it to sign on freenode and do the nickserve identify (and wait till the srerver recognizes it) BEFORE it does the #channel join. Result: I have to retype in all the channel joins I want because I was not yet identified when hexchat does the joins.  ((I am mystified. I tried 4 different changes in how the16:51
tripelbauto-sign-in is done but nothig has worked )) *so far*16:51
TJ-tripelb: could it be caused by Freenodes anti-spam probing which delays log-ins nowadays?16:53
tripelbYes, it could be. How do I make it work....16:53
tripelbHow does the anti-spam work (a little exactly please... TJ-16:54
CrashbitHi! I installed bitcoin core snap in my ubuntu. But I don't have suficient space on /homepartition to download all blockchain. Can I use another disc, using snap package of bitcoin16:54
Crashbit?16:54
TJ-tripelb: look at the messages from freenode when the client connects. There's a CTCP probe and delay along with wanring messages16:54
hggdhtripelb: and use SASL for login16:55
tripelbI used to have it set up to join a bunch of channels (more specifically 3 android and  2 ubuntu. from time to time windows too16:55
tripelbhggdh, I do use sasl, always have. Not there is a choice of 2 kinds of sasl but ony one asks for my password in the hexchat set up so Idid that one but... Hey, I will try it again.16:56
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tripelbhggdh, nope. I used sasl and clearly it joins the channel before I get identified.  ((and I dont understand TID FF at all. >> * Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect   * You may not reregister17:02
hggdhtripelb: perhaps better to discuss this with the staffers at #freenode. For the record, freenode sends out a CTCP VERSION on every connection.17:04
hggdh(cuz SASL should hold any further activity until authenticated)17:04
tripelbOK I will hggdh --. Second Question: I have a picture I want to use as my background. Well I did BUT: The usual CHOICES of stretch, as is, expand, shrink to fit, tile -- are not there. THerefore I get the top and bottom of the image cut off. What is the problem? (18.04 Vanilla))17:06
MrTuliashi17:06
adrian_1908hi17:07
hggdhtripelb: will leave for somebody else, not a reall expert on Gnome17:07
MrTuliassomeone speak spanish? I don't speak english very well17:09
tripelbtHANKS SO MUCH hggdh17:09
hggdh!es | MrTulias17:09
ubottuMrTulias: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.17:09
tripelbAnyone, How do I get my Background Image to fit on my screen with the usual controls? (unmodified 18.04)  these are the controls we know, fill screen, zoom, shrink to fit, tile...17:10
adrian_1908What's the issue? None of these do what you want?17:11
tripelbadrian_1908, I dont get the choice. they dont come up at all.17:11
tripelbadrian_1908, I ust did it again, system settings, background, pictures, select image, click select, then it exits as done.17:14
adrian_1908tripelb: Sorry, I don't know how Gnome does this. You see the image, select it, and then you don't have some dropdown menu to pick the style?17:14
tripelbadrian_1908, that is exactly right17:14
max12345hey, trying to dist upgrade with the terminal but some libs give me trouble17:15
max12345should I keep trying or just make a new boot stick and format my drive?17:16
tripelbadrian_1908, perhaps a different DE would work?17:16
adrian_1908Damn, no idea then. Gnome is a Hipster (black rimmed glasses) product, they reinvent every wheel, make things unintuitive to use. I moved to a classic Desktop long ago.17:16
tripelbadrian_1908, which is the classic ... gnome-classic?17:17
adrian_1908I use Xfce (Xubuntu), there you select the image and then use a dropdown menu for the display style, like it used to be everywhere (even in old Gnome)17:17
adrian_1908Can't be of much help, but you're hardly the first person running into strange behavior with the Gnome UI. Canonical should normalize Gnome more for Ubuntu imo.17:18
Greyztar_my syslog is overfilled with ureadahead[536]: ureadahead:run: Ignored relative path,its literarely billions of these,anyone has a clue why?Ubuntu 18.0417:19
hggdhmax12345: without knowing *exactly* what errors you are getting, we cannot suggest actions to you. Give us the FULL output of apt-get dist-upgrade in a pastebin17:19
adrian_1908Greyztar_: same here.17:20
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Greyztar_https://bit.ly/2vbGMit17:20
tripelbadrian_1908, oh yes. I was going to get this. --- And.. I reported it in #gnome just now.17:20
max12345hggdh: sure thing https://pastebin.com/i9afsXQz17:20
granttrecinstalled npm on ubuntu, then tried to upgrade, now it says /usr/bin/env: ‘node’: No such file or directory and Im not sure what to do17:22
Greyztar_adrian_1908: rly annoying :(17:22
tripelbThe dropdown IS in the code because once I went directly from a pic online to setting the image (without downloading and using the saved image) and that worked fine. I tried to reproduce that but have not gotten the choice to USE AS again.)17:22
blackflowgranttrec: tried to upgrade what and how?17:23
granttrecblackflow: I tried to upgrade npm with sudo npm install -g npm17:23
hggdhmax12345: what version of Ubuntu are you running?17:24
blackflowgranttrec: you shouldn't be doing that, and now you've broken it probably. force reinstall the apt package17:24
max12345right now xubuntu 16.0417:24
adrian_1908Greyztar_: Check out the posts near the end, e.g. "ureadahead has been already removed from cosmic. If you don't need it, just remove the package." https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/157958017:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579580 in ureadahead (Ubuntu) "ureadahead reports relative path errors in journalctl output" [High,Confirmed]17:25
max12345xenial17:25
granttrecblackflow: I tried apt install --reinstall but no luck17:25
blackflowgranttrec: only apt may install software as root on the system. any other package manager must not be run as root unless it's sure it won't clobber packaged files.17:25
Greyztar_adrian_1908: ill have a look thx17:25
granttrecblackflow: ah I see17:25
hggdhmax12345: that's weird. I can only see libopenfoundation-7.3 on Cosmic17:26
blackflowgranttrec: which package is that, "npm"?17:26
blackflowgranttrec: I mean you ran apt install --reinstall npm    right?17:26
granttrecyeah17:26
hggdhmax12345: sorry for the mistype -- libocct-foundation-7.317:26
blackflowgranttrec: what does `which npm` say?17:27
Greyztar_adrian_1908: ahhh i think i might already know whadup,gt some disk connected through older lsi raid controller i think that might be it,its through jbod mode17:27
granttrecblackflow: /usr/local/bin/npm17:27
TJ-max12345: The problem is the packages from the PPA do not declare a "Breaks/Conflicts" for the installed packages (which have different naming)17:27
max12345So, can I just purge them or ignore them somehow? I don't need anything I currently have installed17:28
blackflowgranttrec: yeah, now your system is polluted with files installed by npm, where it shouldn't. I'd like to tell you to remove /usr/local/bin/npm so there's only (packaged) /usr/bin/npm, but I'm not sure that's all to be done17:28
TJ-max12345: yes, remove or purge the installed packages first17:29
max12345Alright how do I find the precise package names of the stuff that needs to be removed?17:31
max12345because just trying the names that apt-get tells me doesn't work17:31
max12345Again, I can just proverbially nuke the whole install from boot stick17:34
max12345seems like that's simpler17:34
Greyztar_adrian_1908: thx for the heads up on that thread,already read it though didnt read it through,system seems bk to normal17:35
TJ-max12345: "sudo apt remove libopencascade-foundation-7.1.0 libopencascade-modeling-data-7.1.0 libopencascade-modeling-algorithms-7.1.0  libopencascade-visualization-7.1.0 libopencascade-ocaf-7.1.0  libopencascade-data-exchange-7.1.0"17:36
BurkeburkeHi guys! I just bought my first SSD for my desktop PC. Now I wonder how I get my 18.04 install cloned to the new drive - Or at least the home partition (after fresh install) to it, which is encrypted.17:36
TJ-max12345: all those were listed in your pastebin17:37
max12345no apt doesn't really play along here and just lists that they have unmet dependencies again17:38
max12345I'm just going to wipe everything, it's clearly less trouble than figuring out what I broke...17:41
max12345thanks for your efforts though!17:41
Greyztar_is there a  difference of using apt and apt-get anymore on later distro?17:44
granttrecblackflow: yeah gonna try and remove files by hand since it seems are few are sticking around17:44
Jordan_UGreyztar_: They have slightly different syntax and output in some places, but "sudo apt install foo" should always give you the same end result as "sudo apt-get install foo".17:55
Greyztar_Jordan_U: cheers17:55
MannyLNJOk so I decided because I believe my Usb 3.0 expansion card is bad and I don't know if it damaged the Motherboard which is old (AA55M-E with a AMD A85600 w/ 4GB ram I need to build a new system. Are there any current hardware reccomendations I can be pointed to?18:01
blackflowMannyLNJ: this ain't the channel for it and if you ask a 100 people you'll get 110 opinions. So here's one (but let's not discuss it here): go AMD.   ;)18:03
leftyfbAnd I'd recommend Intel. Which is why it's bad to ask for opinions like this here. Not to mention, this is a support channel, not discussion.18:06
tgm4883obvious an ARM processor is the best answer (but everyone else is right, this isn't the proper channel for it)18:12
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tripelbI am using an HP laptop 2016 and they didnt bother to write a wifi driver for linux (and the std ubuntu driver isnt NEAR as good as the windows one which sees MANY more signals) -- so my question is, How to knw ahich manufacturers are unfriendly to Ubuntu and thus should e avoided.18:25
carlgustavhi, is anybody aware of a network config value (or bug? started about 1 week ago after system update) that can limit the download speed of a single file to 10MB/s while not affecting the overall speed? no traffic shaper installed, cable connected, xubuntu 18.04 on laptop, 10Gb testserver, no other devices on the network affected18:28
ioriacarlgustav, i guess you can do that with wget (wget --limit-rate) if i got your question18:31
carlgustav@ioria i actually try to revert that, because it's capped right now, and i don't know why18:33
carlgustavi tried all kinds of download methods, all are capped to about 10MB/s18:34
daniel2Good afternoon!  I am trying to insall python3-matplotlib, and I am getting this error: https://bpaste.net/show/29af6a0abc6d18:34
daniel2I've tried installing python3-numpy, but still gives me the same error.18:34
daniel2carlgustav: My laptop has FreeBSD on it and the wifi only works up to Wireless-G, so I dunno what context you are referring to, but I know the pain of slow speeds :)18:35
carlgustav@daniel2 yea i had some trouble with wifi too, that's why connected it with cable and only use wifi when i'm not home18:38
ryuocarlgustav: Are you connected at greater than 100 megabits over ethernet? that sounds like an ethernet bottleneck.18:38
ryuoyou'd see a cap if not all the devices and cables on the way to the server support anything faster.18:38
carlgustav@ryuo yes it's connected at 1Gb18:38
daniel2carlgustav: what kind of wifi card?  Intel Wifi cards work pretty well.  Broadcomm too if you have the proper drivers/firmware.  I am interested in trying the Atheros Killer Wifi in Linux though.18:39
ryuoHow about all the switches, etc?18:39
ryuocarlgustav: another possiblity is protocol overhead. if you're using HTTPS, encryption overhead can be a bottleneck.18:40
max12345hey, I did the install, nothing obvious went wrong and now I just see a blinking cursor18:40
max12345where can I find an up to date and appropriate troubleshooting page I can go through?18:40
carlgustav@ryuo the bottleneck can't be anywhere else than a config issue with ubuntu, because i get overall full speed with multile files at the same time18:40
daniel2max12345: Sounds like X didn't load properly, maybe a driver issue?18:40
carlgustav*multiple18:40
max12345daniel2: that's possible, how can I fix it?18:41
daniel2can you hit ctrl + alt + f2 and access the terminal?18:41
daniel2Then you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log18:41
max12345daniel2: nope ctrl+alt+f2 does nothing18:41
daniel2Hmm, maybe SSH?  Although it sounds like it's hung during boot.18:41
max12345the bootstick worked fine, should I use that check what's wrong?18:41
Jordan_Umax12345: What do you see on the screen during boot between turning power on and seeing the blinking cursor?18:43
max12345my motherboards info screen i.e. telling me what to press to go to the boot menu18:43
max12345nothing else I think, let me check18:43
daniel2UEFI or Legacy?18:44
max12345probably legacy.18:44
carlgustav@daniel2 it was an issue with 5ghz wifi and hidden ssids, but i managed to fix it after a while18:44
max12345shows the bios version I think but it's very short18:44
daniel2carlgustav: ah I see.  Yeah with FreeBSD the driver support for wifi is spotty.  12 is suppose to be a good release though.18:44
max12345I'll film it.18:44
daniel2max12345: Try entering the bios to be sure what it's set to.  Sometimes the block cursor thing happens due to EFI issues.18:45
max12345ok what am I looking for?18:46
max12345quick boot is disabled18:46
max12345ioapic?18:46
carlgustav@ryuo i tried all kinds of "speedtests" even like wget over http or ftp, still capped to 10MB/s18:46
ryuocarlgustav: did you try iperf?18:47
carlgustav@ryuo no not yet18:47
ryuocarlgustav: give it a try then.18:48
carlgustav@ryuo but the weird thing is that i get more than 10MB/s when i dl more files at once18:48
ryuocarlgustav: perhaps the server software is throttling individual connections.18:49
ryuoIDK.18:49
ryuoiperf can help you narrow down the possibilities.18:49
ryuoIf it's a network issue, iperf should be bottlenecked as well.18:49
carlgustav@ryuo yea idk either, if i use a live-cd it just works fine on the same file18:50
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carlgustav@ryuo and the other devices don't have that issue18:50
carlgustav@ryuo that's why i guessed the last system update changed a network config file somewhere, but i can't find it18:51
carlgustav@ryuo and changeing the mac address doesn't help either18:52
ryuocarlgustav: all I can say is you'll need to troubleshoot it yourself.18:54
carlgustav@ryuo no i'm thankful for your advice, but i can't fix it myself, that's why i'm here :)18:56
ryuocarlgustav: then try iperf already.18:57
ylel9hello19:00
phelixI have a folder inside my home folder that i want to create a ssh account and give them access to only a specific folder inside mine. Is this possible? I was able to get an account setup so they login and it goes to that folder. but they also have access to all my other files and can leave that folder.19:06
leftyfbphelix: why do you need to do this?19:08
phelixI have someone that i want to work on a project I started19:08
phelixI want to give them access to finish this19:08
leftyfbok?19:08
ryuoSo why can't you just use git repos or w/e?19:09
phelixSo I want to let someone ssh to my server but keep them locked into a specific folder.19:09
EternalManaHello! I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and audio randomly goes scratchy every once in a while either on the onboard audio ouput or using my usb sound cards... I searched and on forums they suggest to add load-module module-udev-detect tsched=019:09
daniel2https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-restricting-ssh-user-session-to-a-directory-chrooted-jail/ ?19:09
EternalManawoops19:09
phelixI want the work for this done on my server19:09
max12345I followed the ubuntu help stuff and I'm running the boot repair tool now.19:09
phelixAnd they don't have access to a shell account.19:09
leftyfbphelix: do bind mount the directory from your home directory into the new users home directory19:09
leftyfbdo/so*19:09
phelixAhh yes that prob a good idea.19:10
EternalManaHello! I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and audio randomly goes scratchy every once in a while either on the onboard audio ouput or using my usb sound cards... I searched and on forums they suggest to add load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0 to the pulseaudio config but then pulseaudio refuses to start or play any sound... Anything I can do to make pulseaudio suck less? (insert angry controversial statement19:10
EternalManaabout pulseaudio here)19:10
leftyfb!repeat | EternalMana19:10
ubottuEternalMana: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/19:10
EternalManaYeah sorry ubottu >.> somehow when I pasted the url it ended up sending half my written question >.>19:11
EternalMana(silly bot)19:11
coconutphelix: you might want to consider an collaborative text editor too.19:12
phelixhmm ok19:12
max12345\o/ long live boot-repair19:14
leftyfbEternalMana: please don't PM19:15
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carlgustavis it correct that if i use "wget -O /dev/null somefile" nothing gets saved on my drive or gets bypassed completely, so i could literally run this without a harddrive?19:33
leftyfbcarlgustav: what's the end goal?19:34
leftyfbcarlgustav: but yes, that should work19:34
carlgustavi have a speedcap somewhere, and i can't find where19:35
carlgustavand i thought my drive may be damaged19:35
carlgustavso i try all speedtests i can find to figure out why my dl speed gets capped to ~10MB/s19:36
leftyfbcarlgustav: check your ethernet cable(s)19:37
leftyfbI had that and found out I was using an ancient cat3 cable19:37
carlgustav@leftyfb the cables are all fine, i can dl at full speed using a live-cd19:39
phelixI think that document page you showed me worked for restricting access. However, How can I gran access to nodejs?19:48
phelixI have tried doing what it does with other small commands like cp, rm etc that works fine. But getting some errors when the jailed user tries running node19:49
phelixor npm19:49
mateothegreatphelix: what's the error?19:55
phelixUnhandled rejection RequestError: Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND i.instagram.com i.instagram.com:44319:56
phelixI get this when running it as the jailed user. But I can run it as root or someone with access to everything and it runs just fine19:56
mateothegreatas the user you're running node, can you run `nslookup i.instagram.com` ?19:58
phelixahh user does not have access to that command.19:59
phelixLet me grant access to that and see what happens.19:59
phelixhmm nslookup works now. but still getting that same error20:00
mateothegreatare you running this in a jail?20:01
phelixyes20:02
mateothegreatif so, and you don't want to muck with permissions, just add i.instagram.com to /etc/hosts20:02
phelixahh ok20:02
mateothegreatyou probably need to mount /etc (and a few others) in your jail btw20:06
phelixhmm ok20:07
phelixI do have a bunch of stuff in the jail /etc.. but maybe I should just mount everything there.20:07
mateothegreatyea probably /etc, /lib, /usr/local maybe20:08
mateothegreator mount everything, get your code working, and regress20:08
phelixYea, not sure whats up. Seems no matter how hard I try or what files I add I can't get node to get internet access it seems. Everything times out. Even with npm I get ENOTFOUND20:25
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pragmaticenigmaphelix: Sounds like a question for the Node JS channels20:43
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urgodfatherHello all21:55
gpI'm using Ubuntu 18.04 for the first time.  I want to hardcode domain dns servers.  In the past I did it like this: echo "nameserver 172.28.14.11" >> /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head22:12
gpHow do I make this happen on 18.04?22:12
gpIt's causing me wonky name resolution issues with docker22:13
gpReading about netplan seems like I have to configure dns servers with the network interface? Is that true?22:18
urgodfathergp, yes22:20
urgodfatherUnless an op corrects me22:20
gpWell that ruins my day lol22:21
bcxHello, I have sevral mime types registering the *.doc extension, how to define the *default* one (I check `gio info file.doc` output) ?22:21
gpHow does one forcefully insert a nameserver in resolv.conf with the new system?22:22
gpin a persistant fashion22:22
jhaveHello22:23
jhaveI have a problem with one server i dont understand this22:25
jhaveits a 150GB disk but its only show as 4GB :(22:25
jhavehttps://pastebin.com/8pxwhrDM22:25
gpjhave: did you just happen to install 18.04 under hyper-v for the first time?22:27
gpcause that happened to me today22:27
Colombo1hey22:27
gpjhave: you probably need something along these lines22:27
gpsudo lvextend /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv /dev/sda322:27
gpsudo resize2fs /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv22:27
Colombo1so I am like... lets upgrade from 17 to 1822:27
KhaoticTJ, bluetooth is down again :(22:27
Colombo1but then I look at removed software and WTF? Why is ubuntu removing the stuff that I actually use?22:28
gpjhave: get your physical device from sudo pvdisplay22:28
Colombo1Is there way to upgrade but keep my stuff?22:28
LargePrimeHi, I got help a few days ago with my realtek RTL8812AU and i installed rtl8812au-dkms.  it worked fine, but now the computer is acting like it cannot find the adapter again, and network-manager is not using it22:28
hggdhColombo1: first of all, there is no versions 17 and 18. There are 17.04, 17.10, 18.04, and (by EOW next week) 18.1022:29
LargePrimeis it possible a kernel update did not force a rebuild?22:29
hggdhColombo1: second, did you install packages from other sources? What, specifically, would be removed?22:30
Colombo1hggdh: Obviously 17 means 17.XX, so either .04 or .10, and 18 means 18.xx, which due to suggested update, means the 18.04 LTS version.22:31
hggdhColombo1: I am sorry, but it is not obvious. And there is no simple path from 17.04 to 18.0422:31
Colombo1hggdh: yeah, I suspect that some might be removed due to disabled sources (such as inkscape), but others are not, such as Evolution.22:31
Colombo1my bad then, I have 16.04 here.22:32
jhavegp, thanks its fixed it :)22:32
gpjhave: yw22:33
hggdhColombo1: I see no reason for Evolution to be removed. I has been part of Ubuntu for many. many years, and it is still there. Perhaps you could pastebin this piece of the upgrade messages?22:33
* hggdh goes AFK for a while22:34
Colombo1hggdh: https://imgur.com/a/QNpH1St I ran it in graphical mode. I will run it in terminal to provide a full list.22:37
klu3what's the channel for ubuntu mate?22:37
Colombo1klu3: this is the channel for ubuntu, mate.22:38
compdocha ha ha22:38
klu3Colmbo1: help me, i tried to install ati radeon 2600xt and when i tried to reboot comp, the gui wont load so i did ctrl+alt+F1 and purge remove ati's also did reconfigure xorg, now when i try to login it just stays in endless login loop, how can i fix this so i can get all my important files and just do a cold reformat of the system, im using ubuntu mate22:38
klu3<klu3> i normally use nvidia geforce 8600 gs22:38
klu3but i try to set everything to xorg or x whatever the default gui is22:39
klu3is this also possible using ubuntu mate live cd, and just putting the default files to my hdd22:41
klu3can anybody help me22:43
urgodfatherklu3, what's wrong22:44
klu3urgodfather, my ubuntu mate is stuck in login loop22:45
urgodfatherah22:46
urgodfatherI was reading up right now22:46
urgodfatherSo you tried to change your gfx card?22:46
Colombo1hggdh: pastebin: https://pastebin.com/GpaEu0jD22:47
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klu3ya i had nvidia geforce also set to proprietary driver, then i switch to ati radeon 2600xt, graphic card works just not the hardware acceleration, read up online how to install catalyst everything is fine when i did reboot it shows black screen with login, after login in nothing happens so i do sudo startx and nothing is happening so i switch back to nvidia it work for a bit when i do startx, so i switch to xorg instead of nvidia proprietary,22:50
klu3i did purge ati as well also reconfigure xorg and a bunch of other stuff, now when i did reboot i comes up at login screen and it goes black then shows me the login screen again like im in a loop22:50
klu3i propbably didnt remove all of ati's file22:51
klu3i just like it so that everything is like fresh install where im not using nvidia proprietary but xorg or x or  whatever22:51
klu3if this is too complicated im thinking maybe just load ubuntu mate live cd and just load the default files to the hdd, isnt that what you do when the grub gets mess up22:53
klu3also as last resort im thinking just accessing my hdd thru ubuntu mate live cd, but the disk is encrypted with luks i believe22:53
urgodfatherOh fun22:53
urgodfatherYou got encryption too :(22:54
klu3the encryption that comes with ubuntu installation, thats luks right?22:54
EriC^^correct22:54
klu3or i could just try to access the file just doing a boot from hdd, go pass luks encryption, then login, but like i said everything is black so it'll be hard to navigate thru home folder with command line, im newb at linux not use to moving around folders via command line22:55
tomreynklu3: do you know what the grub menu is and how to get there?22:57
klu3yea i think so, when i turn on my computer usually it shows me the encryption window login to unlock drive but when i turn off the pc then turn it bakc on again, it shows me the same thing and then i un encrypt then instead of asking for user pass, it takes me to grub22:59
klu3is the solution in the grub settings?22:59
tomreynklu3: that's not the best way to get to grub. instead, reboot and hold down eft shift, or keep pressing escape at boot.23:00
tomreynklu3: i don*t know what the solution is since i dont know what exactly the problem is.23:00
tomreyn(or rather what causes it exactly923:00
tomreynklu3: when you're at grub menu, select advanced, then the topmost "recovery" option23:02
tomreynon the menu that comes up, just resume boot. are you then able to login fine?23:02
klu3yea on normal boot i get to the login screen with gui, and when i type in pass the screen goes black then show me the login screen again, like infinite log in loop23:04
klu3i went to advance grub23:04
klu3ok im in recovery menu23:05
tomreyn<tomreyn> on the menu that comes up, just resume boot. are you then able to login fine?23:06
klu3no still showing me login screen after i login23:07
Bashing-omklu3: "sudo23:08
klu3i was reading something online and someone figure out their problem by reading the .xsession-errors but i dont know how to read it to find problem, i can show you but idk how to copy the file to an external thumbdrive23:08
klu3so i can then open the file on this other computer im using right now so i can copy and paste the contents of .xsession-erros to pastebin23:10
klu3Bashing-om sudo what?23:10
Bashing-omklu3: "sudo startx" UN-good as now root owns your desktop - I bet. From an F2 console, what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' ?23:10
klu3oh that yea it shows me .Xauthority23:11
klu3well let me try again to make sure23:11
Bashing-omklu3: Bit the owner and group should be you .. not 'root' :P23:11
Bashing-ombut*23:12
klu3Bashing-om, i follow your suggestion, i did ctrl+alt+f2; login; sudo startx; and now im in my desktop with gui23:13
klu3thnx dude23:14
klu3im gonna start copying files before something weird happens23:14
klu3just gonna do cold reformart and do fresh install23:14
Bashing-omklu3: Fresh is good .. so long as you have thought of all you want restored .. make "good" backup :)23:16
urgodfatherklu3, make a habit of keeping important stuff on cold storage23:16
urgodfatherIe flash drives, external, cloud, network, etc23:16
OerHeksif you have no backup, your data is unimportant23:17
urgodfatheryep23:17
Bashing-omklu3: "sudo startx" is bad bad bad .... doing "sudo" in your home directory will have undesired side effects ( like root owns /home) .23:18
klu3after i login with user pass it shows user@pcname  but when i do startx it says denied then says something about .xauthority but sudo works23:19
klu3so if root owns my home right now, how i can transfer it back to me user@pcname23:19
mateothegreatsudo chown -R <user>.<group> /home/<user>23:20
klu3thnx23:21
klu3mateothegreat, i did the command <user> groups to find out what groups i belong to and the result are- <user> : <user> adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare; so when i do the command sudo chown -R <user>.<group> /home/<user> which group should i put for <group> ?23:53
Bashing-omklu3: Let'a say on your system your user name is klu3; then a doable command would look like ' sudo chown klu3:klu3 .ICEauthority ; sudo chown klu3:klu3 .Xauthority ' .23:58

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