[00:00] <R13ose> Bashing-om: how should I copy the folder over?
[00:03] <Bashing-om> R13ose: In your case I might suggest that you use the GUI file manager, open 2 windows and drag and drop .
[00:04] <R13ose> Bashing-om: yes but there are some locked folders and at the moment, my biggest usb drive is 2GB when the folder is around 18GB
[00:05] <Bashing-om> R13ose: then there is no solution other than money :P
[00:06] <R13ose> Bashing-om: yes, get larger usb key, okay.  Yet, what do I do about locked folders in my home folder?
[00:08] <Bashing-om> R13ose: locked for read only will not hinder copying .
[00:10] <R13ose> Bashing-om: permissions on the locked folders say everyone but owner is forbidden.
[00:11] <rfm> R13ose, I'm sort of baffled,  If you can't read those folders, what good are they doing and why would you want to keep them?
[00:13] <piesquared> How do i add a user?  I have sudo, and it must be with commandline
[00:13] <Bashing-om> R13ose: So, elevate your pivileges to 'SUper User DO' and copy away .
[00:14] <R13ose> rfm: true.  I am just unsure which folders I need to get what I said I wanted earlier.  You said they are in home folder but which folders within the user folder?
[00:16] <Wafficus> hey does anyone know where the mimeapps.list is in Lubuntu?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> piesquared: see: ' man adduser ' .
[00:17] <piesquared> Oh.  Thanks.
[00:19] <Bashing-om> piesquared: I would say more, but only you can know what access you want to grant this new user - thus, read the fine manual :P
[00:19] <rfm> R13ose, the Opera data is probably in a hidden folder you don't even see in the file manager.  That's why you should copy the entire /home/<user> directory....
[00:25] <R13ose> rfm: thanks.  I will do that with rsync, right?
[00:29] <rfm> R13ose, you will if you do the rsync right...
[00:30] <R13ose> ...
[00:41] <alazyworkaholic> I'd like to clone a dying disc without buying any new hardware. I have a small 1-disc NAS with a new drive, my laptop with a small drive, and a 1-disc docking station attached to the the laptop via usb with a dying drive. Problem is, I need block device access to use ddrescue. Is nbd the way to go?
[00:43] <R13ose> Thanks rfm and Bashing-om for the help so far.  I will get a larger usb key, copy files and then swap drives and install Kubuntu.
[00:43] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Good plan :P
[00:45] <R13ose> Is there a way to use the home drive I put on my usb key instead of putting that on the hdd when I install Kubuntu?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> R13ose: Sure, be rather cumbersome to have to plug in the USB each time you boot the system .. and USB drives are fraught with failure .
[00:48] <rfm> R13ose, you don't want to, it would be pretty slow
[00:54] <R13ose> Okay, I should just copy over the home drive from the usb to HDD once everything is in place?
[00:54] <rfm> R13ose, that's what I would do
[00:55] <R13ose> rfm: over write the home drive that was created when I install Kubuntu on the new HDD?
[00:56] <rfm> R13ose, yes, overwrite that, before doing anything else on the new system.
[00:57] <R13ose> Thanks again
[00:58] <rfm> alazyworkaholic, I've never used ddrescue, but reading the manual it sure seems like it can use regular files as well.
[01:00] <rfm> alazyworkaholic, maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by a NAS.  Usually those make file systems available (NFS/CIFS) not a block interface.
[01:19] <qwebirc73457> Has anyone seen the RC for Cosmic on a mirror anywhere?
[01:21] <core7> if one does a fresh install of 18.04 - is there  a script that copies files from 16.04 like /etc/passwd /etc/fstab etc and applies it to the new installation?
[01:23] <tecton> I have a general question: if most hardware already ships with Linux inside, why aren't distributions taking advantage of this and giving users control of those hardware OSes?
[01:25] <ryuo> tecton: because many of them are effectively blackboxes or run very specialized installations not suitable to a general purpose distribution?
[01:25] <ryuo> E.g., routers.
[01:26] <tecton> I personally don't believe in black boxes, but I understand what you're saying: someone would, for free, have to reverse engineer all the obscuration built in
[01:26] <tecton> I'm just thinking: if your HDD has linux inside, wouldn't there be a performance increase to interface with it at the OS level?
[01:27] <ryuo> tecton: highly doubtful it does. they usually use some proprietary firmware.
[01:27] <tecton> And wouldn't it also provide you with extra security?
[01:27] <tecton> is there an open source hardware movement?
[01:28] <ryuo> In some ways, yes. See RISCV.
[01:28] <tecton> I thought that was just a processor instruction set
[01:29] <ryuo> ... an instruction set is useless without something to run it.
[01:29] <tecton> of course... I meant, though, that doesn't extent to hard drives, motherboards, routers, or smart fridges
[01:30] <tecton> i like the message behind people like eben moglen, even if he himself is super annoying
[01:31] <ryuo> tecton: not necessarily. it can be used in such devices.
[01:31] <ryuo> hard drives have a standardized interface, but the implementation is typically proprietary.
[01:31] <tecton> i had heard that riscv chips were super duper expensive
[01:31] <ryuo> OFC. it's very new.
[01:31] <ryuo> So are x86 chips, if you compare them to ARM.
[01:32] <tecton> do SSDs offer a better basic platform for RISCV or other open source hardware implementation than magnetic mechanical drives?
[01:33] <ryuo> No idea. Both storage devices need some form of controller.
[01:33] <ryuo> Not necessarily one with a CPU.
[01:34] <tecton> ok, thanks for patiently answering my noob qs
[01:34] <ryuo> tecton: open hardware isn't really likely, though open interfaces is.
[01:35] <alazyworkaholic> rfm: I have a Kimax U35WF, it's basically a networked enclosure, but I put openwrt on it so I can ssh into it. Unfortunately, this device isn't yet 'officially' supported, so it refuses to install the needed kmod-nbd module.
[01:35] <tecton> thats very disheartening for human society
[01:35] <ryuo> x86 is usually the main architecture suitable to general purpose distributions...
[01:35] <ryuo> ARM is a mess here.
[01:36] <tecton> at least arm doesn't hae speculative execution
[01:36] <ryuo> Every board has its own idea of how stuff should be exposed.
[01:36] <ryuo> incorrect. some ARM cpus have it.
[01:36] <alazyworkaholic> rfm: I would run ddrescue on the NAS, but a package isn't available via its package manager.
[01:36] <tecton> bummer
[01:36] <ryuo> and not all x86 has speculative execution.
[01:37] <ryuo> My n270 is immune because it lacks it.
[01:37] <tecton> all modern x86 does tho, right?
[01:37] <ryuo> tecton: except perhaps the Intel Atoms.
[01:37] <ryuo> but anyway.
[01:37] <tecton> oh yeah, Atoms.
[01:37] <ryuo> AMD is ironically the least effected.
[01:37] <tecton> that was the only recent intel family without it, IIRC
[01:39] <ryuo> some people use x86 routers, but it's not very common.
[01:40] <ryuo> they're still PC compatible but have different HW design.
[01:40] <ryuo> typically have 2+ onboard ethernet and such.
[01:40] <tecton> its beginning to look a lot like even security experts can't singlehandedly secure their own systems.
[01:41] <ryuo> tecton: if you want to get technical, sure... Intel ME is a mess and people usually forget about it.
[01:43] <tecton> it's one huge backdoor, innit
[01:43] <alazyworkaholic> I have a 2TB drive that's failing (seagate Constellation ES model). I've bought another 2TB drive (seagate Barracuda). They're not identical, so I imagine there may be a slight capacity difference. I know the dying drive's last partition is a few hundered MB of swap. If I dd from one to the other and the new drive is slightly smaller, should the first data partition still copy correctly and be
[01:43] <alazyworkaholic> recognized/readable?
[01:44] <ryuo> considering it's the basis for vPro, yea... it's very similar to server IPMI.
[01:44] <OldGregg> capital criminals' sophistry trying to invalidate conciencious objectors
[01:45] <ryuo> a form of backdoor allowing for remote administration.
[01:45] <ryuo> though one that officially exists as a feature.
[01:45] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om: i fixed it i installed everything!
[01:47] <gt8ost4l> Bashing-om: pm i want to know your opinion
[01:47] <gt8ost4l> pm me
[02:04] <jair> hello all, I am currently using 18.04 64bit with network manager and the weird dns IP > 127.0.0.53 I read I could change it if I installed the tool resolvconf
[02:06] <jair> I installed it then I went to the configuration and added the name servers in the tail file, it seems like it added the router IP however, the 127.0.0.53 is still showing up
[02:06] <jair> any advice?
[02:06] <jair> I am checking in google as well
[02:26] <z01d> Hi, how do I access this extra '.' in linux: http://codepad.org/0m3RUHQS ??
[02:37] <core7> anyone did a fresh install of 18.04 and moved from 16.04 recently?
[02:42] <tatertots> uh..you probably didn't know this but...putting name/dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf isn't going to do what you think or read it will do...not in modern Linux distros at least
[02:42] <tatertots> you could get away with that years ago....but...things change
[02:42] <tatertots> thus..you still see your router
[02:51] <tecton> GOOD JUH JUH JUH
[02:54] <Gr33ntea> Hello I installed Ubuntu 18.10 and for some reason, it takes forever to get to the bootscreen then it hangs at the bootscreen for like a minute and then it shows my mouse and the purple login background and then permanently freezes. Any suggestions?
[02:55] <Gr33ntea> Also the reason i opted for 18.10 and not 18.04 is because 18.04 just instantly crashes in the install screen
[02:56] <Gr33ntea> I guess I should also mention i have a 1050TI graphics card
[03:08] <Bashing-om> !18.10 | Gr33ntea
[03:08] <Bashing-om> Gr33ntea: support in #ubuntu+1 .
[03:10] <Gr33ntea> Thanks
[03:19] <Sears`Tower> installing ubuntu-desktop will install the GNOME version and not Unity, correct?
[03:33] <RoscoePColtrane> Uh i don't think 18.04 by default uses unity anyway
[03:34] <RoscoePColtrane> they stopped doing that as the default
[03:34] <RoscoePColtrane> i'm sure lot of folks are glad about that too
[03:34] <hggdh> Sears`Tower: default for 18.04 is Gnome
[03:35] <RoscoePColtrane> I think unity was the hip thing canonacal was wanting to do in 16.x
[03:35] <RoscoePColtrane> only for it to NOT be the hip thing to do 2 years later
[03:36] <tecton> how's tha basset hound RoscoePColtrane
[06:03] <geirha> Unity became the default in 11.04, and switched to GNOME in 17.10
[07:40] <xenchrarr> Hi . Many of my programs installed with snap crashes on launch. The only error I get when running then in a terminal is "Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[07:40] <xenchrarr> "
[08:23] <Sakara> I'm using perf to profile an application. My profile doenst have symbols for the kernel. Any idea how I get them? I tried to install the dbgsym package for the generic kernel I have installed but can't find it. Any ideas?
[08:26] <Sakara> looks like dbgsym for the kernel are not created for all kerenls I found some for an older kernel in the repo will try downgrade the kernel and use those
[08:42] <ph88> hey guys, how can i know what went wrong here with installing package? https://bpaste.net/show/a857143ebde4
[08:45] <ducasse> ph88: that package is from a third party repo that we don't support, talk to them
[08:47] <lenny_lemon> is it worth to upgrade to 18.04 from 16.04?
[08:50] <ph88> lenny_lemon, sometimes not all packages are ported to 18.04 yet, otherwise it's worth it i think
[09:17] <hashrack> how to extract 7zip files? it says there is no command installed for 7-zip archive files
[09:18] <TaZeR> can i put ubuntu phone on a nexus 6p?
[09:19] <TaZeR> i wanna have a puter-phone capable of world damnation
[09:19] <Sakara> TaZeR: the ubuntu touch folks are probably in another channle since the ubuntu touch project is now a community project
[09:19] <TaZeR> oh i see, do u know what that channel is?
[09:20] <Sakara> Not sure. Perhaps check the ubuntu touch site.
[09:20] <Sakara> looks like its #ubuntu-touch
[09:20] <TaZeR> sweet thanks
[09:20] <Sakara> no probs
[09:21] <Sakara> hashrack: there are unoffical package on the 7zip.org website. no idea if they work but maybe worth a try
[09:23] <ducasse> hashrack: try '7z'
[09:25] <hashrack> thanks.. found the solution on https://askubuntu.com/questions/219392/how-can-i-uncompress-a-7z-file
[09:25] <Sakara> popey: you're the only one I've heard knows a thing or two about developing on ubuntu. any ideas if there are kernel debugging symbol packages available for the generic kernel on 18.04?
[09:25] <ducasse> TaZeR: it's now handled by the ubports project, in #ubports
[09:25] <TaZeR> yep thx got it
[09:25] <popey> Sakara: does this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages
[09:26] <Sakara> The closest package I've found in those repos is linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-20-generic-dbgsym
[09:26] <ppf> isn't that enough?
[09:27] <Sakara> Is that repo an offical repo? The system is using now 4.15.0-36-generic it's stuck me as odd that there is a kernel in a repo and no debugging package
[09:27] <Sakara> s/stuck/struck
[09:27] <ppf> ddebs.ubuntu.com is official, yes
[09:28] <Sakara> I'd have imagined that the packages for debugging symbols and the kernels shipped would be in lock step
[09:58] <rockwod> i am unable to login my ubuntu
[09:59] <rockwod> help me please
[09:59] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: server or desktop?
[09:59] <rockwod> amd 64 bit on my laptop
[09:59] <rockwod> 18.04
[10:00] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: your username and password aren't accepted, right?
[10:00] <rockwod> accepted but not landing on desktop
[10:01] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: did you just upgrade to 18.04?
[10:01] <Sakara> something much have been up I must have missed something the first time. I went through the steps again of adding the repos popey and now the dbgsym package for the kernel I'm using is appearing. Thanks for your suggestion
[10:01] <rockwod> after few seconds back on login screen just
[10:01] <rockwod> TimeDoctor: its upgraded months ago
[10:02] <popey> Sakara: super!
[10:03] <rockwod> TimeDoctor: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/06/install-latest-filezilla-ubuntu-16-04/  after this i am unable to login
[10:03] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: you just did those steps?
[10:03] <rockwod> yes
[10:04] <rockwod> TimeDoctor: sorry that was wrong link
[10:04] <TimeDoctor> okay
[10:04] <rockwod> TimeDoctor: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/  this is
[10:05] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: you just installed filezilla, or uninstalled it?
[10:05] <rockwod> TimeDoctor: flatpak install --from https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/org.filezillaproject.Filezilla.flatpakref  after this command just
[10:06] <rockwod> actually my laptop is old
[10:06] <rockwod> and not much supports graphics thing
[10:06] <nisankhindia> can i have few workaround for this https://zerobin.lagout.org/?9c5761307c285fbe#Pz58BGTCalXFJqdmbWzuTz5RxJy5JZu1Mh31PDnnNLU=
[10:06] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: do you have another machine that you can ssh into your laptop from?
[10:07] <rockwod> i can reboot it
[10:07] <rockwod> i noticed my user also locked
[10:07] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: try ctrl+alt+f1 to switch to a terminal
[10:08] <TimeDoctor> oh your account is locked?
[10:09] <rockwod> ctrl+alt+f2 now i am on terminal
[10:09] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: you were able to login?
[10:09] <rockwod> asking for username
[10:09] <rockwod> root also can i try here?
[10:10] <TimeDoctor> root login should be disabled
[10:10] <nisankhindia> rockwod: what's your issue ??? please mention platform , packages used for and your desired outcome
[10:10] <rockwod> TimeDoctor: i am in
[10:10] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: great!
[10:10] <rockwod> but in trminal
[10:10] <TimeDoctor> rockwod: so your username and password are still fine, something is busted with your graphical setup
[10:11] <TimeDoctor> someone else should be able to help you from here, ctrl+alt+F7 should get you back to graphical land
[10:11] <TimeDoctor> I don't know anything about debugging modern login issues, unfortunately
[10:12] <TimeDoctor> well, I'd look at every log file until I figured it out
[10:12] <rockwod> wait i have idea just uninstall just installed stuff
[10:12] <TimeDoctor> installing filezilla really shouldn't have broken anything but it is worth a shot
[10:13] <nisankhindia> rockwod: could you please send the details of your desired function , what packages you have installed or used and the distribution details
[10:14] <rockwod> nisankhindia: app india se ho kya?
[10:14] <nisankhindia> rockwod: yes but i don't understand hindi
[10:15] <rockwod> okay no issue
[10:15] <rockwod> actually i have installed http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/
[10:15] <nisankhindia> rockwod: for what purpose ??
[10:16] <TimeDoctor> it's a file transfer client
[10:16] <rockwod> just install filezilla
[10:16] <rockwod> yes
[10:17] <nisankhindia> rockwod: i know its a thirdparty FTP client but now in what purpose you are facing what type of issue
[10:18] <nisankhindia> rockwod: is it not working or whather you are facing any issue while login into any FTP server or you are not able to access ftp services etc ???
[10:19] <rockwod> actually my old filezilla client was creating problem in connectivity that why i uninstalled that and install new onw
[10:19] <rockwod> nisankhindia:
[10:19] <nisankhindia> rockwod: ok after new one installed / loaded what happens now
[10:20] <rockwod> i couldn't login in graphical mode
[10:21] <nisankhindia> rockwod: whats your desktop environment : gnome , unity , kde etc etc
[10:21] <rockwod> gnome
[10:23] <nisankhindia> rockwod: do your distribution have UFW package installed
[10:23] <rockwod> can i restore my recent backup by terminal?
[10:24] <nisankhindia> rockwod: what this show in output : apt search ufw
[10:24] <nisankhindia> rockwod: installed or just the package name + version
[10:27] <rockwod> nisankhindia: https://ibb.co/jJxKg9
[10:28] <nisankhindia> rockwod: ok , now let me see your filezilla log , probably it is here in /var/log/filezilla.log
[10:30] <rockwod> saying no such file or directory
[10:30] <rockwod> actually i uninstalled that too
[10:31] <nisankhindia> rockwod: filezilla common issue are like lack of /bin/bash shell for user causes “login incorrect” for ftp with filezilla
[10:31] <nisankhindia> GUI
[10:32] <rockwod> so now?
[10:32] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:33] <nisankhindia> rockwod: first possible solution disable UFW
[10:33] <rockwod> how can i that?
[10:33] <rockwod> by what command?
[10:34] <nisankhindia> rockwod : or may be the target ftp server have not implemented the shell for user for ftp with filezilla
[10:34] <nisankhindia> rockwod: sudo systemd disable ufw
[10:36] <TimeDoctor> wait what
[10:36] <nisankhindia> rockwod: what was the responce code from filezilla .. is it Response:   530
[10:36] <nisankhindia> rockwod: just try once using filezilla and check the responce code
[10:37] <TimeDoctor> isn't rockwod just trying to login to their laptop through the GUI? I don't think it's a problem with using filezilla
[10:37] <TimeDoctor> they can't even login to use it, as far as I can tell
[10:38] <nisankhindia> rockwod: than you have to give us details of the target machine where you are trying to access FTP service ..
[10:38] <TimeDoctor> they can't log in to their laptop
[10:38] <TimeDoctor> that's the problem
[10:38] <TimeDoctor> not over FTP
[10:39] <TimeDoctor> this isn't about a firewall on their laptop
[10:39] <TimeDoctor> it's gnome or whatever crashing after they login
[10:39] <TimeDoctor> and sending them back to the login screen
[10:39] <nisankhindia> rockwod: he told me about ftp access using filezilla ... not about others
[10:41] <nisankhindia> rockwod : is your problem is something like Unable to start with graphical mode of desktop , or it is Filezilla GUI login ... make it clear
[10:41] <rockwod> yes
[10:42] <rockwod> yes --> Unable to start with graphical mode of desktop
[10:42] <nisankhindia> rockwod: ok now you are at point install dconf package
[10:43] <rockwod> dconf package?
[10:44] <rockwod> should i sudo systemd disable ufw?
[10:44] <TimeDoctor> no
[10:44] <rockwod> okay
[10:44] <rockwod> now what is next task for me
[10:44] <rockwod> ?
[10:44] <nisankhindia> rockwod: forget all previous , that because of miscommunication , now just install dconf package
[10:45] <nisankhindia> rockwod: than you have to remove few things and have to create some backups , i will tell you next
[10:45] <rockwod> okay
[10:46] <rockwod> install first and after it info you am right?
[10:47] <rockwod> nisankhindia: https://www.linuxhelp.com/how-to-install-dconf-editor-on-ubuntu-18-04/ right link?
[10:47] <nisankhindia> rockwod: sudo apt install dconf-cli dconf-tools
[10:48] <nisankhindia> rockwod: whenever you are confused about package name than use two commands apt search <name> or apt-cache search <name>
[10:49] <rockwod> nisankhindia: installed
[10:50] <rockwod> now
[10:51] <nisankhindia> rockwod: whats your ubuntu release ?? is it 18.04 or ???
[10:51] <rockwod> 18.04
[10:51] <nisankhindia> rockwod: now you have to remove few gnome things (mostly configurations ) , wait
[10:52] <nisankhindia> rockwod: rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*
[10:53] <rockwod> is it full command?
[10:54] <nisankhindia> rockwod: yes , try this , it may show error but execute it
[10:55] <nisankhindia> rockwod: now possibly you can reset default for gnome using:  sudo dconf reset -f /org/gnome/ or if that does not work reset gnome full : sudo dconf reset -f / and restart the system
[10:56] <rockwod> nisankhindia:   this to need to type n command ---> thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*
[10:59] <rockwod> still this command is execting rm: cannot remove .cache/dconf & dbus permission denied
[10:59] <rockwod> after sudo done
[11:00] <nisankhindia> rockwod: try to read here ( password is readnow ) https://zerobin.lagout.org/?e2e25bc59c4f5801#lEW/w/rZkfYRDGKnJlAmx8vV3Vtgozk49e9dh7uuM1I=
[11:02] <rockwod> sudo dconf reset -f /org/gnome/  and  sudo dconf reset -f / not runing
[11:03] <nisankhindia> rockwod: resinstall the dconf package
[11:04] <rockwod> nisankhindia: https://ibb.co/ifSzW9
[11:05] <nisankhindia> rockwod: you have mistyped . leave a space between -f and /
[11:06] <rockwod> no effect
[11:06] <nisankhindia> rockwod: wait something is wrong ... let me see more ..
[11:06] <tomreyn> nisankhindia: they did, during the final run. the problem is a diffierent one: this is not an X11 session, and no DISPLAY to operate on was provided.
[11:07] <tomreyn> wouldn't it be a much better approach to try to undo the changes that rockwod made which caused this situation in the first place?
[11:07] <nisankhindia> tomreyn: i have seen that
[11:08] <tomreyn> or to create a new user (with an ampty home directoy) and see whether this user can login graphically?
[11:08] <tomreyn> *empty
[11:08] <rockwod> and on login screen i noticed user is disabled type
[11:09] <rockwod> now what should i do?
[11:09] <tomreyn> rockwod: it could help if you would show a screenshot of this login screen.
[11:09] <rockwod> okay
[11:09] <tomreyn> rockwod: also, did you (try to?) undo the changes you made which triggered the issue?
[11:10] <nisankhindia> rockwod: show the GDM login screen
[11:10] <tomreyn> ... i.e. the changes discussed at http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/
[11:10] <rockwod> system is auto rebooted
[11:10] <Anticom> Hi guys. We've got a virtual ubuntu 18 server running and while i was on vacation someone f'ed with the server. There's some weird shenanigans going on, it seems to be having mounted the fs in some sort of ro mode. for example a simple TAB-completion doest work and i get the error "-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: Read-only file system"
[11:11] <tomreyn> rockwod: are you saying that your computer just rebooted without you requesting it?
[11:11] <Anticom> I tried diagnosing the issue but i didn't get anywhere. Any ideas how to figure out what's wrong and how to fix it?
[11:11] <tomreyn> Anticom: there is no "ubuntu 18"
[11:11] <JimBuntu> Anticom, checked dmesg, history or tried rebooting yet?
[11:11] <rockwod> tomreyn: yes
[11:12] <Anticom> tomreyn: ? 18.04 LTS...
[11:12] <tomreyn> rockwod: did it do so before, does it do so regularly?
[11:12] <Anticom> JimBuntu: The other guys did try to do that
[11:12] <tomreyn> Anticom: thanks for being precise.
[11:12] <rockwod> tomreyn: no first time
[11:12] <JimBuntu> <insert joke about 12.04>
[11:13] <Anticom> tomreyn: well i thought it was obvious enough ;)
[11:13] <tomreyn> Anticom: it's not 18.10 will be released soon, and there are people using pre-release versions already.
[11:14] <Anticom> tomreyn: touche
[11:14] <nisankhindia> rockwod: as per common issue list : Cannot autolaunch D-bus without X11 $DISPLAY , possible solutions mentioned :      Reinstalling ubuntu-desktop     Resetting unity/gnome (using Unity/gnome Tweak Tool - this resulted in a cannot autolaunch D-Bus error)
[11:14] <JimBuntu> Anticom, did they also try fsck? Is there any data that needs to be backed up? If so, please do so. Since you were away and 'history' didn't show anything... I'm going to suggest the only 'safe' option it to recreate the system... no way to know what RATS may have been installed
[11:14] <rockwod> nisankhindia: tomreyn https://ibb.co/cSYRdp
 rockwod: also, did you (try to?) undo the changes you made which triggered the issue? ... i.e. the changes discussed at http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/01/filezilla-client-3-30-0-released/
[11:14] <Anticom> JimBuntu: well another issue is that there's a 2nd drive emulated which i can't mount for some reason
[11:15] <Anticom> JimBuntu: mount is telling me that it's mounted already but it won't show up in "df"
[11:15] <rockwod> i unstalled just filezilla
[11:15] <JimBuntu> lsblk ?
[11:15] <rockwod> tomreyn: i uninstalled just filezilla
[11:15] <tomreyn> rockwod: where on this screen can we see that the user account is disabled?
[11:16] <nisankhindia> rockwod: can you change the dekstop session from the login screen ,, what is your default desktop session says on the login screen
[11:16] <JimBuntu> Anticom, again though,m unknown things done to the system while you were away, I wouldn't trust it
[11:16] <rockwod> tomreyn: see the menu of left side
[11:16] <rockwod> or right
[11:16] <rockwod> upper side
[11:17] <tomreyn> rockwod: i see the menu on the top right, what about it?
[11:17] <rockwod> after putting password after few mints it will be back on same screen
[11:17] <rockwod> nitin sharma is unclickable
[11:17] <rockwod> its something like locked
[11:17] <rockwod> tomreyn:
[11:18] <tomreyn> rockwod: right, you're not locked in, so configuring your wireless network link is not yet possible. this does not mean that your user account is locked or disabled.
[11:18] <tomreyn> s/locked in/logged in/
[11:18] <nisankhindia> as i can see the solution provided for ubuntu common issue list : Cannot autolaunch D-bus without X11 $DISPLAY , possible solutions mentioned :      Reinstalling ubuntu-desktop     Resetting unity/gnome (using Unity/gnome Tweak Tool - this resulted in a cannot autolaunch D-Bus error)
[11:19] <Anticom> JimBuntu: Well since it was an almost virgin system i think my most viable option is to just start over again
[11:19] <tomreyn> rockwod: i suggest you continue undoing the installation you did previously, then reboot and try to login again.
[11:20] <nisankhindia> rockwod: do you have dual graphics ???
[11:20] <tomreyn> rockwod: you will need to switch to a textual temrinal and login there to do so. press ctrl-alt-f3 for starters.
[11:21] <rockwod> hey tomreyn logged in now
[11:21] <nisankhindia> rockwod: solved !!!
[11:22] <rockwod> let me once more restart it
[11:22] <rockwod> but destop looks very old stylish
[11:22] <rockwod> desktop
[11:23] <nisankhindia> rockwod: thats because from the previous all the settings that made by you have been deleted , mainly the configuration done by you
[11:23] <tomreyn> rockwod: can you be more precise than "oldstylish"? maybe another screen shot.
[11:23] <rockwod> okay
[11:23] <rockwod> starting up
[11:24] <tomreyn> nisankhindia: see, i think it would have been better not to carry out destructive changes right away.
[11:25] <nisankhindia> tomreynL i have suggested him based on UBUNTU COMMON ISSUE LIST
[11:25] <tomreyn> nisankhindia: i'm not aware of this list
[11:25] <nisankhindia> tomreyn: read ubuntu wiki
[11:25] <tomreyn> nisankhindia: can you provide the url?
[11:26] <OerHeks> i think he points at the releasenotes/ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[11:26] <nisankhindia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TroubleShootingGuide
[11:26] <rockwod> tomreyn: nisankhindia https://ibb.co/czwtr9
[11:27] <nisankhindia> rockwod: you have now a working DE GUI so now adjust and arrange the thing as you wish
[11:27] <nisankhindia> good luck
[11:29] <tomreyn> nisankhindia: thanks. i don't see "rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity .cache .dbus .dmrc .mission-control .thumbnails ~/.config/dconf/user ~.compiz*" listed there nor "sudo dconf reset -f /" - where is this from?
[11:30] <nisankhindia> tomreyn: gnome wiki troubleshooting guide ( resetting desktop environment and gnome using terminal )
[11:30] <tomreyn> tomreyn: this looks like gnome 3 to me (default ubuntu 18.04 desktop), but it's a bit small and blurry, so i can't be sure.
[11:30] <Rockwood> tomreyn, now i am on that machine
[11:31] <Rockwood> tomreyn, http://i.imgur.com/W83eI9h.png]%20[img]http://imgur.com/W83eI9hl.png
[11:32] <nisankhindia> rockwod: if you do face such issue in further future first try to read REDHAT gnome troubleshoting guide ( as most of the developer of gnome are from redhat )
[11:32] <tomreyn> nisankhindia: i see, so actually a different resource. those commands are probably useful. i just think it would have been better to roll back the changes rockwood made as a first strategy, since they said those very changes introduced the issue. and apparently undoing them also undid the issue.
[11:32] <Rockwood> sure i will keep it in mind
[11:33] <Dexarv> hi all
[11:33] <tomreyn> Rockwood: oh that's xfce. i don't know whether that's what you mean to run. if not, you can logout and switch to gnome by clicking on the small preferences whell next to the login button.
[11:33] <Rockwood> okay
[11:33] <Dexarv> what do i need to install if i want to code in nodejs, and how?
[11:34] <Rockwood> let me try once more
[11:35] <nisankhindia> Dexarv: please ref to nodjs developer website and read the guides and doc , it is ubuntu support related channel ...
[11:35] <coconut> Dexarv: atom does that, and maybe some more.
[11:35] <Dexarv> oh
[11:36] <Dexarv> I'll try
[11:36] <Dexarv> thanks
[11:36] <coconut> np
[11:36] <nisankhindia> Dexarv: programing things like nodjs etc etc depends on your logic , systax not based on tools , any text editor could be used
[11:42] <nisankhindia> https://zerobin.lagout.org/?9c5761307c285fbe#Pz58BGTCalXFJqdmbWzuTz5RxJy5JZu1Mh31PDnnNLU= .. first one flooded my dmesg output , second one is related to acerwmi.c of acer WMI driver of kernel , so can anybody post something to overcome the issue ( it is harmless issue ) but still
[11:48] <Rockwood> nisankhindia, tomreyn thanks
[11:48] <Rockwood> i am happy now
[11:48] <Rockwood> one more issue i wanna install file transfer client now
[11:49] <tomreyn> Rockwood: i'd still be worried about the computer rebooting all of a sudden. this usually points at hardware or critical kernel issues (which are very rare). maybe it's worth reviewing your /var/log/syslog* around the time it happened.
[11:50] <tomreyn> Rockwood: so you need an ftp client, or will an ssh client work, too?
[11:50] <nisankhindia> acer-wmi.c of acer WMI driver of kernel in ubuntu has an issue u8 return error ( it return unknown function in acer laptops with 4.15.0-38-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 10 10:59:38 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux )
[11:50] <nisankhindia> if anyone has idea on this we can discuss
[11:52] <nisankhindia> rockwod: whats your output if you excute this cat  /proc/sys/kernel/panic
[11:52] <Rockwood> tomreyn, /var/log/syslog bash: /var/log/syslog: Permission denied
[11:52] <Rockwood> nisankhindia, 0
[11:52] <Rockwood> 0 is the output of cat  /proc/sys/kernel/panic
[11:53] <nisankhindia> rockwod: passed , now check last log of boot and reboot
[11:53] <Rockwood> tomreyn, ftp client with upgraded version
[11:54] <nisankhindia> rockwod: type command : last reboot
[11:55] <Rockwood> nisankhindia, /var/log/syslog bash: /var/log/syslog: Permission denied
[11:56] <Rockwood> how to pastbin for that
[11:57] <nisankhindia> rockwod: you can check all these diagnosys methods in ubuntu troubleshoting guide ( or any SAG guide for linux ) you can play around these while your free time , to get idea about why it's reboot at sudden or etc ..
[11:58] <Rockwood> nisankhindia, cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit i run this
[11:59] <nisankhindia> rockwood: and on the point where you said you want to install something related package ( may be ftp client etc ) ... do use apt search or apt-cache search to get list of packages favailable for you ( stable one is good for users )
[11:59] <Rockwood> okay
[11:59] <tomreyn> Rockwood: there have not been newer versions of the ftp protocol for a looong time. it's a very old and mostly insecure protocol.
[12:00] <Rockwood> tomreyn, nisankhindia http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WZQV8sFqCw/
[12:00] <nisankhindia> rockwood: say you dont know what package is available for your relase and distribution than just pass an command using terminal : apt search ftp , it will show you list of packages and you  can choose the required one from there
[12:00] <cim209> Rockwood, you can run this command: cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:01] <Rockwood> cim209, thanks http://termbin.com/i6eb
[12:01] <Rockwood> nisankhindia, tomreyn me too dont like ftp client
[12:02] <Rockwood> ssh access is not possible on my server current server
[12:02] <tomreyn> Rockwood: what do you want me to look for on this log?
[12:03] <Rockwood> just chking the cause of sudden restart
[12:03] <nisankhindia> rockwood: you have file manager in every DE ( gnome , xfce , kde etc ) that is fully capable with online accounts , ftp , webdav etc etc , so better your your default file manager or something nautilus , dolphin , nemo etc
[12:03] <tomreyn> Rockwood: then it would be usefule to know the log time when it took place.
[12:03] <Rockwood> okay
[12:04] <Rockwood> nisankhindia, tomreyn still i am confuse in choose file transfer client
[12:06] <tomreyn> Rockwood: i don't know which criteria you are trying to meet, so can't recommend a specific one. normally, for the FTP protocol, any of the more common FTP clients and even most default graphical file browsers should work fine.
[12:07] <tomreyn> (i would consider filezilla to be one of the more common ftp clients.)
[12:07] <tomreyn> you said something wasn't working using the version of filezilla found in ubuntu?
[12:43] <pikapika> Hey
[12:43] <pikapika> Does anyone know where whisker menu actually stores its entries?
[12:44] <pikapika> There are a bunch of .desktop files, rather than copying and clicking repeatedly into the gui menu editor, I'd prefer if I can somehow just copy them somehow with some minimal changes
[12:46] <TJ-> pikapika: for system packages, /usr/share/applications/ and for user-added $HOME/.local/share/applications/
[12:57] <pikapika> Thanks TJ- it saved me a lot of work!
[13:03] <carlgustav> hi@all, does anybody know of an network speed issue that maybe started one or two weeks ago after a normal system update? (xubuntu 18.04)
[13:04] <carlgustav> it seems my networkspeed got capped to about 10MB/s on single downloads, but the overall speed with multiple files seems fine
[13:06] <carlgustav> using a live-cd the speed is just fine, aswell as on the other devices on the network
[13:08] <carlgustav> i'm sorry i know it says support for ubuntu only, but i couldn't find any resolution anywhere
[13:09] <lotus|NUC> xubuntu support falls under official flavors, its ok mate
[13:09] <lotus|NUC> carlgustav: wich kernel are you on and wich chipset is that?
[13:10] <carlgustav> it's 4.15.0-36-generic
[13:12] <carlgustav> and a i5-7200U laptop
[13:14] <TJ-> carlgustav: are you sure you've not installed some kind of TC (traffic control/shaping) application/service on that PC?
[13:15] <TJ-> carlgustav: and does the limit affect everything (including wget/curl) or just 1 or 2 applications (or protocols) ?
[13:15] <carlgustav> TJ- no i didn't install anything alike
[13:16] <carlgustav> yes i tried everything i could think of, including wget
[13:16] <TJ-> carlgustav: is it a wired interface, or wireless?
[13:16] <TJ-> carlgustav: could it be limited at the network gateway device? There could be a per-port/per-stream limit being applied
[13:17] <carlgustav> it's really strange, i download the exact same speedtest file from leaseweb (10Gbit) from different machines and on this laptop it's limited to 10MB/s
[13:18] <carlgustav> it's all wired
[13:18] <TJ-> carlgustav: is there another network you can test it on, e.g. a friends, or a cafe/public wifi? That'd help determine if it is something on the PC, or something on your network
[13:19] <TJ-> carlgustav: if it doesn't affect the laptop booted with the liveISO boot, then I'd guess it is something configured on the PC itself, OR, related to the IP address the PC gets from the gateway (in which case the limit could be on the gateway)
[13:20] <carlgustav> hmm, well i could yes, but does using a live-cd or changeing the mac-address rule that out?
[13:20] <TJ-> carlgustav: do you personally control the network gateway device?
[13:22] <carlgustav> yes, it's in my home network, and it's just this machine, and it started sometime last week, probably after a system update, so i guess some cfg got modified, but i don't know where else to look
[13:23] <TJ-> carlgustav: OK, so you'd know if traffic shaping had been configured on the gateway.
[13:24] <TJ-> carlgustav: you've not installed something like wondershaper, niceshaper, fireqos have you?
[13:24] <carlgustav> well at least i can kinda rule out my router, right? i even resetted it to factory def
[13:25] <TJ-> carlgustav: sounds correct :)
[13:26] <_0x00rick> anyone ever had troubles with unicode/german character rendering in a terminal and knows a fix? especially for ubuntu-budgie?
[13:28] <TJ-> _0x00rick: I'd guess that would depend on which font is in use
[13:30] <_0x00rick> TJ-: Source Code Pro for Powerline Regular
[13:30] <_0x00rick> i would think the powerline font does not have problems with glyphs and such
[13:33] <_0x00rick> correction: its a problem in weechat not the terminal itself
[13:33] <TJ-> _0x00rick: possibly related to https://github.com/powerline/fonts/issues/278 ?
[13:34] <_0x00rick> tried without powerline fonts. it seems related to weechat
[13:35] <_0x00rick> time to figure our how I can change the used charset or something
[13:38] <gem_cat> hello, I am still trying to setup lamp in bionic, it mistly wirks but now i want to update joomla and it refuses. After a long time it comes back with am error "..improper logon" which makes me think it is something to do with the urls and having to do with ubuntu. I know I can manually copy the files but I want the 'update' button in Joomla to work, is that asking too much?
[13:40] <TJ-> gem_cat: that sounds like a joomla issue
[13:40] <blackflow> gem_cat: for home/testing use you might want that. for production on public internet? you do not want that.
[13:41] <gem_cat> I have explored that but I think either I have shot myself in the foot or it is peculiar to bionic
[13:42] <blackflow> gem_cat: for the most part it's a question of whether the PHP process can modify the .php files (which is why you don't want that in production), so depending on how you've set it up, the php proces must have the permission/ownership to do so.
[13:43] <gem_cat> blackflow, I want to get my site working local before I put it on my web server
[13:44] <blackflow> gem_cat: then you might want to put in place an upgrade procedure that doesn't involve PHP changing its own code.
[13:44] <gem_cat> blackflow, the php on my localhost is mine alone - in the webserver I only need to select joomla and everything is set up for me
[13:44] <blackflow> "select joomla"?
[13:45] <gem_cat> the host has a wizard for that
[13:45] <gem_cat> but the content is up to me
[13:46] <blackflow> content is irrelevant. that it's Joomla, is irrelevant too. the bottom line is, if you want a <php application> to modify its own .php files -- which is NOT adviseable -- then the user it runs as needs ownership/permission to do so. something tells me your host is a shared host cpanel centos thingy where you probably can't do any of that.
[13:47] <gem_cat> I know that joomla will run properly on my hosted site, I want it to run on my localhost too
[13:48] <blackflow> you'll have to define "properly". for example, you can run PHP as www-data, part of apache process itself. Or you can set up php-fpm and interface via fastcgi between the web server and FPM.
[13:49] <blackflow> in fact the user it runs to is irrelevant and configurable, point being that with fpm you can have them separate.
[13:49] <gem_cat> joomla is not designed to alter any files outside the www directory which is proper for bionic as i understand it
[13:49] <blackflow> (but for local development you might want to run as your user so you can modify the files freely)
[13:50] <blackflow> gem_cat: that's pretty much irrelevant. in case of security vulnerabilities, "designed for" becomes irrelevant too.
[13:50] <blackflow> so this is really a matter of configuration -- how you set up PHP to run under the web server.
[13:51] <gem_cat> ok I may have some unlearning to do, i tried this befor about 20 years ago and things have changed
[13:52] <blackflow> I'm sure the situationw as the same 20 years ago :)   a process needs permission to change files. if you want PHP to self-upgrade, the running interpreter process UID needs that permission.
[13:52] <blackflow> *was the
[13:53] <blackflow> and I've put it wrong. not PHP to upgrade itself, but PHP applications to upgrade/change their own .php files.
[13:54] <TJ-> gem_cat: the easiest way, if the permissions on the directories are read-onnly for the joomla process UID, is to temporaily add an ACL using setfacl whilst doing the upgrade, then remove the ACL after
[13:55] <blackflow> the easiest way is to run joomla's offline upgrade tool -- iirc it has one -- and not do it from the application itself.
[13:57] <blackflow> I see there's no package for Joomla? Even more so it depends on how you set it up and there's no out of the box setup specific to Ubuntu.
[13:58] <gem_cat> there are many conflicting instructions online, I think you have the answer blackflow but i dont like it because then every time joomla updates i will have to exit and do an operation
[13:59] <blackflow> gem_cat: you might not like it but it's a responsible thing to do. be a good netizen and don't help bad guys compromise your boxes (which then in turn launch attacks on others online).
[14:00] <blackflow> if you want to be a bad netizen, unpack joomla in a dir, chown -R  the whole docroot as www-data  -- assuming PHP runs as www-data, or use whatever user it runs as -- and enjoy your soon to be pwned box.
[14:01] <gem_cat> ic
[14:07] <ezzieyguywuf> is there anyone here that is familiar with packaging? I'm trying to figure out what I need to change in my debian/* configuration files in order to have my headers and libraries installed in sub-directories of /usr/include and /usr/libs
[14:08] <ezzieyguywuf> my project uses cmake, and my default it installs in /usr/local/include and /usr/local/libs, no sub-directory. However, it appears that in ubuntu most (all?) packages install their headers/library files in a subdirectory of the package name, i.e. /usr/libs/MyPackage/libMyPackage.so
[14:08] <ezzieyguywuf> I'd like to duplicate this feature when packaging my project in a deb, however I'd like to keep the upstream default of not utilizing sub-directories
[14:09] <OerHeks> ezzieyguywuf, if you don't find an answer here, maybe #ubuntu-packaging is your help
[14:09] <ezzieyguywuf> OerHeks: I'll try that next, thanks for the tip
[14:09] <OerHeks> i am not into packaging myself :-(
[14:10] <ezzieyguywuf> hah, much less folks in there. I'll re-post my question nonetheless though
[14:15] <gem_cat> blackflow, thank you, I am still learning.
[14:17] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: are you using the debhelper (dh) tooling in the package debian/rules ?
[14:18] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: yes
[14:18] <ezzieyguywuf> I've tried using the debian/MyPackage.install file, however it seems that dh_auto_install gets in the way since my cmake configuration generates a `make install` target
[14:18] <ezzieyguywuf> so files get moved and then they're not there when dh_install get's called
[14:19] <gem_cat> blackflow, https://docs.joomla.org/J3.x:Errors_in_2.5.26,_3.2.6,_and_3.3.5 says it is a bug in joomla
[14:19] <ezzieyguywuf> i.e. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/32269619/dpkg-buildpackage-error-missing-files-usr-include
[14:19] <blackflow> gem_cat: possibly, but the php process ownership/permissions condition still applies.
[14:23] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: generally you'd control the final location of files by a debian/<binary-pkg>.install file, which is used by dh_install
[14:24] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: you can override the dh_auto_install if needed
[14:24] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: what if my package does not include a binary, but only libraries?
[14:24] <ezzieyguywuf> debian<mypackage>-dev.install is what I've tried using, but per that SO I linked, it is failing
[14:24] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: how do I override this?
[14:24] <ezzieyguywuf> in debian/rules?
[14:30] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: "binary" means a binary package (the package downloaded by the user), not an executable file.
[14:31] <gp> I am running an Ubuntu 18.04 VM under Hyper-V.  I have assigned a 127gb expanding drive.  But Ubuntu vm is showing 100% full at 3.9gb.  Any quick tips before I destroy and start over with a fix sized disk?
[14:31] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: that makes sense. Nonetheless, it doesn't change the fact that utilizing debian/<binary-pkg>.install is not working for me due to dh_auto_install
[14:32] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: if dh_auto_install is used the files should be written under debian/tmp/ - you can then use dh_install to move files to a final package-dir OR use dh-exec to relocate/rename files. See "man dh_install" and its LIMITATIONS section
[14:34] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: it sounds like you need dh-exec - however, the make step should be setting the native build system's prefix correctly so it is prefix=/usr not prefix=/usr/local - so I think you should investigate that part first
[14:35] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: are you calling dh_auto_configure (see its man-page for details)
[14:47] <gp> nm lv was set to wrong size for some reason by the installer. lvextend fixed it
[14:48] <gem_cat> blackflow, I just unpacked the update to my documents/joomla and copied it in place using midnight commander, it looks like it works perfectly.
[14:50] <Iarla> Hi folks. I have a script that uses avconv, which was a part of ffmpeg. Not any more it seems. Any idea where/how I can get it back on a 16.04 installation?
[14:50] <gem_cat> thanks all and goodnite
[14:55] <Iarla> looks like it's part of libav-tools.
[14:55] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: mostly I'm using dpkg-buildpackage, which as I understand it calls dh_auto_install and friends
[14:56] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: Well, actually I've been using 'bzr', which in turn calls 'dpkg-buildpackage'. I'm currently trying to do this 'by hand' using dpkg-buildpackage to resolve this issue
[14:56] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: I've not taken the next stepp and started calling dh_build and friends manually though, as I'm not quite sure the best way to do this
[14:57] <Rockwood> i am looking substitute filezilla client
[14:57] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: right, but dpkg-buildpackage uses the debian/rules Makefile you've got, so you need to make changes there
[14:58] <Rockwood> ftp client outdated stuff that why
[14:58] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: do you have a git repo somewhere I can clone to look at it?
[14:58] <lotus|NUC> Rockwood: whats your purpose mate?
[14:58] <Rockwood> for web developed
[14:59] <lotus|NUC> Rockwood: uploading your files to the server?
[14:59] <Rockwood> yes
[14:59] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: I do, but it doesn't contain my debian folder
[14:59] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: let me add it and upload, just a sec
[14:59] <lotus|NUC> Rockwood: sftp perhaps?
[15:00] <Rockwood> sftp is not free
[15:00] <Rockwood> anymore?
[15:01] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: I generally keep a separate branch for the packaging (./debian/ )
[15:02] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: https://gitlab.com/ezzieyguywuf/OccWrapper/tree/debian_packaging
[15:02] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: lol, I was thinking the same. except I named it debian_packaging
[15:04] <lotus|NUC> !info sitecopy | Rockwood can this help
[15:06] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: the occwrapper-dev.install file is empty now, but previously I've tried this with `usr/lib/*.so /usr/lib/OccWrapper` as well as `/usr/lib/OccWrapper` in occwrapper-dev.dirs. this would create the empty /usr/lib/OccWrapper but not install my library files there
[15:06] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: look at the last lines of debian/rules - what you need has been auto-generated but commented out. remove the comments
[15:06] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: as in you need "       dh_auto_configure --  -DCMAKE_LIBRARY_PATH=$(DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH)"
[15:06] <Rockwood> dconf-WARNING **: 20:35:42.233: Unable to open /home/nitin/.local/share/flatpak/exports/share/dconf/profile/user: Permission denied
[15:08] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: this sounds promising. I'll try that.
[15:08] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: I saw that before, but left it alone because I wasn't sure what it would do
[15:08] <TomyWork> hi
[15:08] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: will this also install the header files in a sub-directory?
[15:09] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: also, while I'm asking questions (and since you seem to have some experience): I'm currently building this package by (1) downloading a tarbal, (2) using bzr to create debian folder, (3) modifying debian folder, (4) using bzr to build package
[15:10] <TomyWork> just so i don't try to boot into a system without a kernel on monday: I had muon software updater fail a kernel update, presumably because i lack /boot space. I ran the janitor from ubuntu tweak and told it to throw away all old kernels.
[15:10] <TomyWork> now my guess is it also retried the configure on the new kernel
[15:10] <TomyWork> but i didn't see the logs for that
[15:10] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: it souds like your workflow is a bit different, as you keep your debian folder in a branch in your project folder. Do you just use dpkg-buildpackage directly? i.e. (1) checkout debian branch, (2) update debian/changelog, (3) run dpkg-buildpackage ?
[15:11] <ezzieyguywuf> TJ-: if so - do you do this in some sort of automated fashion, or is it manual each time?
[15:11] <TomyWork> can i check beforehand whether i have at least one kernel correctly installed and registered with grub?
[15:11] <TomyWork> without rebooting
[15:12] <TJ-> ezzieyguywuf: debian and ubuntu generally keep the packaging branches separate, to allow import of the pristine original source
[15:14] <TJ-> TomyWork: generally, ensure there are matching versions for /boot/vmlinuz-* and /boot/initrd.img-* AND that the files are complete. Best way is to re-generate using "update-initramfs -u" and "update-grub" - GRUB will NOT add a menu entry for kernel that does not have a matching initrd.img-* file, but it will if there is a zero-length or truncated initrd.img
[15:18] <TomyWork> TJ- looks like i have both my currently running and the latest kernel
[15:18] <TomyWork> both initrds are the same size
[15:18] <TomyWork> also, both vmlinuzes are the same size
[15:19] <skinux> Anyone by chance know how to fix Foxit Reader not having a top border that contains close button?
[15:19] <TomyWork> indicating that they're probably either both truncated or neither of them is
[15:19] <skinux> I tried a search, but got a bunch of stuff about installing it
[15:19] <TomyWork> i wouldn't know. if you're looking for a good pdf reader for linux, i use okular
[15:20] <TomyWork> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxit_Reader#Issues woah, you should really reconsider using that thing
[15:23] <TomyWork> and okular has a fullscreen mode (ctrl-shift-f) and a presentation mode (ctrl-shift-p). neither of them have a close button on the top border and one of them might fit your use case
[15:24] <TomyWork> one caveat though: it's KDE, so unless you're using kubuntu, it might drag in a ton of dependencies for you
[15:27] <TJ-> TomyWork: to check the kernel images for correctness: " pushd /; for md5 in /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*md5sums; do sudo md5sum -c $md5; done; popd "
[15:31] <TJ-> TomyWork: for individual packages, you can also use "sudo dpkg --verify <packagename>" but it doesn't print anything, it just returns 0 on success, non-zero on a failure  (to see return code use "echo $?" immediately after it returns)
[15:31] <TomyWork> that doesn't check the compiled kernel images though
[15:32] <TJ-> TomyWork: huh?
[15:32] <TomyWork> oh wait it does
[15:32] <TJ-> TomyWork: the kernel images are all compiled - they're executables after all
[15:32] <TomyWork> yeah for a second there i was out of my mind and dreaming that kernel compilation would be done on the fly, in seconds
[15:33] <TJ-> TomyWork: hehehe you must have the luxury of a build farm :)
[15:34] <TomyWork> not sure that'd even help
[15:34] <TomyWork> linking probably takes longer already
[15:34] <TomyWork> i don't know, is linking parallelizable?
[15:34] <TJ-> It does; I use distcc with kernel builds, and with a massively multi-core host make runs lots of parallel jobs
[15:39] <TomyWork> TJ- but it can't possibly make compilation as fast as installing, right?
[15:43] <TJ-> TomyWork: No, I doubt it could :)
[16:51] <tripelb> Hello, Here I am with 18.-4 and I have some "minor" problems. ONE: Hexchat. I have used it before. For year. Suddenly I cant get it to sign on freenode and do the nickserve identify (and wait till the srerver recognizes it) BEFORE it does the #channel join. Result: I have to retype in all the channel joins I want because I was not yet identified when hexchat does the joins.  ((I am mystified. I tried 4 different changes in how the
[16:51] <tripelb> auto-sign-in is done but nothig has worked )) *so far*
[16:53] <TJ-> tripelb: could it be caused by Freenodes anti-spam probing which delays log-ins nowadays?
[16:53] <tripelb> Yes, it could be. How do I make it work....
[16:54] <tripelb> How does the anti-spam work (a little exactly please... TJ-
[16:54] <Crashbit> Hi! I installed bitcoin core snap in my ubuntu. But I don't have suficient space on /homepartition to download all blockchain. Can I use another disc, using snap package of bitcoin
[16:54] <Crashbit> ?
[16:54] <TJ-> tripelb: look at the messages from freenode when the client connects. There's a CTCP probe and delay along with wanring messages
[16:55] <hggdh> tripelb: and use SASL for login
[16:55] <tripelb> I used to have it set up to join a bunch of channels (more specifically 3 android and  2 ubuntu. from time to time windows too
[16:56] <tripelb> hggdh, I do use sasl, always have. Not there is a choice of 2 kinds of sasl but ony one asks for my password in the hexchat set up so Idid that one but... Hey, I will try it again.
[17:02] <tripelb> hggdh, nope. I used sasl and clearly it joins the channel before I get identified.  ((and I dont understand TID FF at all. >> * Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect   * You may not reregister
[17:04] <hggdh> tripelb: perhaps better to discuss this with the staffers at #freenode. For the record, freenode sends out a CTCP VERSION on every connection.
[17:04] <hggdh> (cuz SASL should hold any further activity until authenticated)
[17:06] <tripelb> OK I will hggdh --. Second Question: I have a picture I want to use as my background. Well I did BUT: The usual CHOICES of stretch, as is, expand, shrink to fit, tile -- are not there. THerefore I get the top and bottom of the image cut off. What is the problem? (18.04 Vanilla))
[17:06] <MrTulias> hi
[17:07] <adrian_1908> hi
[17:07] <hggdh> tripelb: will leave for somebody else, not a reall expert on Gnome
[17:09] <MrTulias> someone speak spanish? I don't speak english very well
[17:09] <tripelb> tHANKS SO MUCH hggdh
[17:09] <hggdh> !es | MrTulias
[17:10] <tripelb> Anyone, How do I get my Background Image to fit on my screen with the usual controls? (unmodified 18.04)  these are the controls we know, fill screen, zoom, shrink to fit, tile...
[17:11] <adrian_1908> What's the issue? None of these do what you want?
[17:11] <tripelb> adrian_1908, I dont get the choice. they dont come up at all.
[17:14] <tripelb> adrian_1908, I ust did it again, system settings, background, pictures, select image, click select, then it exits as done.
[17:14] <adrian_1908> tripelb: Sorry, I don't know how Gnome does this. You see the image, select it, and then you don't have some dropdown menu to pick the style?
[17:14] <tripelb> adrian_1908, that is exactly right
[17:15] <max12345> hey, trying to dist upgrade with the terminal but some libs give me trouble
[17:16] <max12345> should I keep trying or just make a new boot stick and format my drive?
[17:16] <tripelb> adrian_1908, perhaps a different DE would work?
[17:16] <adrian_1908> Damn, no idea then. Gnome is a Hipster (black rimmed glasses) product, they reinvent every wheel, make things unintuitive to use. I moved to a classic Desktop long ago.
[17:17] <tripelb> adrian_1908, which is the classic ... gnome-classic?
[17:17] <adrian_1908> I use Xfce (Xubuntu), there you select the image and then use a dropdown menu for the display style, like it used to be everywhere (even in old Gnome)
[17:18] <adrian_1908> Can't be of much help, but you're hardly the first person running into strange behavior with the Gnome UI. Canonical should normalize Gnome more for Ubuntu imo.
[17:19] <Greyztar_> my syslog is overfilled with ureadahead[536]: ureadahead:run: Ignored relative path,its literarely billions of these,anyone has a clue why?Ubuntu 18.04
[17:19] <hggdh> max12345: without knowing *exactly* what errors you are getting, we cannot suggest actions to you. Give us the FULL output of apt-get dist-upgrade in a pastebin
[17:20] <adrian_1908> Greyztar_: same here.
[17:20] <Greyztar_> https://bit.ly/2vbGMit
[17:20] <tripelb> adrian_1908, oh yes. I was going to get this. --- And.. I reported it in #gnome just now.
[17:20] <max12345> hggdh: sure thing https://pastebin.com/i9afsXQz
[17:22] <granttrec> installed npm on ubuntu, then tried to upgrade, now it says /usr/bin/env: ‘node’: No such file or directory and Im not sure what to do
[17:22] <Greyztar_> adrian_1908: rly annoying :(
[17:22] <tripelb> The dropdown IS in the code because once I went directly from a pic online to setting the image (without downloading and using the saved image) and that worked fine. I tried to reproduce that but have not gotten the choice to USE AS again.)
[17:23] <blackflow> granttrec: tried to upgrade what and how?
[17:23] <granttrec> blackflow: I tried to upgrade npm with sudo npm install -g npm
[17:24] <hggdh> max12345: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[17:24] <blackflow> granttrec: you shouldn't be doing that, and now you've broken it probably. force reinstall the apt package
[17:24] <max12345> right now xubuntu 16.04
[17:25] <adrian_1908> Greyztar_: Check out the posts near the end, e.g. "ureadahead has been already removed from cosmic. If you don't need it, just remove the package." https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/1579580
[17:25] <max12345> xenial
[17:25] <granttrec> blackflow: I tried apt install --reinstall but no luck
[17:25] <blackflow> granttrec: only apt may install software as root on the system. any other package manager must not be run as root unless it's sure it won't clobber packaged files.
[17:25] <Greyztar_> adrian_1908: ill have a look thx
[17:25] <granttrec> blackflow: ah I see
[17:26] <hggdh> max12345: that's weird. I can only see libopenfoundation-7.3 on Cosmic
[17:26] <blackflow> granttrec: which package is that, "npm"?
[17:26] <blackflow> granttrec: I mean you ran apt install --reinstall npm    right?
[17:26] <granttrec> yeah
[17:26] <hggdh> max12345: sorry for the mistype -- libocct-foundation-7.3
[17:27] <blackflow> granttrec: what does `which npm` say?
[17:27] <Greyztar_> adrian_1908: ahhh i think i might already know whadup,gt some disk connected through older lsi raid controller i think that might be it,its through jbod mode
[17:27] <granttrec> blackflow: /usr/local/bin/npm
[17:27] <TJ-> max12345: The problem is the packages from the PPA do not declare a "Breaks/Conflicts" for the installed packages (which have different naming)
[17:28] <max12345> So, can I just purge them or ignore them somehow? I don't need anything I currently have installed
[17:28] <blackflow> granttrec: yeah, now your system is polluted with files installed by npm, where it shouldn't. I'd like to tell you to remove /usr/local/bin/npm so there's only (packaged) /usr/bin/npm, but I'm not sure that's all to be done
[17:29] <TJ-> max12345: yes, remove or purge the installed packages first
[17:31] <max12345> Alright how do I find the precise package names of the stuff that needs to be removed?
[17:31] <max12345> because just trying the names that apt-get tells me doesn't work
[17:34] <max12345> Again, I can just proverbially nuke the whole install from boot stick
[17:34] <max12345> seems like that's simpler
[17:35] <Greyztar_> adrian_1908: thx for the heads up on that thread,already read it though didnt read it through,system seems bk to normal
[17:36] <TJ-> max12345: "sudo apt remove libopencascade-foundation-7.1.0 libopencascade-modeling-data-7.1.0 libopencascade-modeling-algorithms-7.1.0  libopencascade-visualization-7.1.0 libopencascade-ocaf-7.1.0  libopencascade-data-exchange-7.1.0"
[17:36] <Burkeburke> Hi guys! I just bought my first SSD for my desktop PC. Now I wonder how I get my 18.04 install cloned to the new drive - Or at least the home partition (after fresh install) to it, which is encrypted.
[17:37] <TJ-> max12345: all those were listed in your pastebin
[17:38] <max12345> no apt doesn't really play along here and just lists that they have unmet dependencies again
[17:41] <max12345> I'm just going to wipe everything, it's clearly less trouble than figuring out what I broke...
[17:41] <max12345> thanks for your efforts though!
[17:44] <Greyztar_> is there a  difference of using apt and apt-get anymore on later distro?
[17:44] <granttrec> blackflow: yeah gonna try and remove files by hand since it seems are few are sticking around
[17:55] <Jordan_U> Greyztar_: They have slightly different syntax and output in some places, but "sudo apt install foo" should always give you the same end result as "sudo apt-get install foo".
[17:55] <Greyztar_> Jordan_U: cheers
[18:01] <MannyLNJ> Ok so I decided because I believe my Usb 3.0 expansion card is bad and I don't know if it damaged the Motherboard which is old (AA55M-E with a AMD A85600 w/ 4GB ram I need to build a new system. Are there any current hardware reccomendations I can be pointed to?
[18:03] <blackflow> MannyLNJ: this ain't the channel for it and if you ask a 100 people you'll get 110 opinions. So here's one (but let's not discuss it here): go AMD.   ;)
[18:06] <leftyfb> And I'd recommend Intel. Which is why it's bad to ask for opinions like this here. Not to mention, this is a support channel, not discussion.
[18:12] <tgm4883> obvious an ARM processor is the best answer (but everyone else is right, this isn't the proper channel for it)
[18:25] <tripelb> I am using an HP laptop 2016 and they didnt bother to write a wifi driver for linux (and the std ubuntu driver isnt NEAR as good as the windows one which sees MANY more signals) -- so my question is, How to knw ahich manufacturers are unfriendly to Ubuntu and thus should e avoided.
[18:28] <carlgustav> hi, is anybody aware of a network config value (or bug? started about 1 week ago after system update) that can limit the download speed of a single file to 10MB/s while not affecting the overall speed? no traffic shaper installed, cable connected, xubuntu 18.04 on laptop, 10Gb testserver, no other devices on the network affected
[18:31] <ioria> carlgustav, i guess you can do that with wget (wget --limit-rate) if i got your question
[18:33] <carlgustav> @ioria i actually try to revert that, because it's capped right now, and i don't know why
[18:34] <carlgustav> i tried all kinds of download methods, all are capped to about 10MB/s
[18:34] <daniel2> Good afternoon!  I am trying to insall python3-matplotlib, and I am getting this error: https://bpaste.net/show/29af6a0abc6d
[18:34] <daniel2> I've tried installing python3-numpy, but still gives me the same error.
[18:35] <daniel2> carlgustav: My laptop has FreeBSD on it and the wifi only works up to Wireless-G, so I dunno what context you are referring to, but I know the pain of slow speeds :)
[18:38] <carlgustav> @daniel2 yea i had some trouble with wifi too, that's why connected it with cable and only use wifi when i'm not home
[18:38] <ryuo> carlgustav: Are you connected at greater than 100 megabits over ethernet? that sounds like an ethernet bottleneck.
[18:38] <ryuo> you'd see a cap if not all the devices and cables on the way to the server support anything faster.
[18:38] <carlgustav> @ryuo yes it's connected at 1Gb
[18:39] <daniel2> carlgustav: what kind of wifi card?  Intel Wifi cards work pretty well.  Broadcomm too if you have the proper drivers/firmware.  I am interested in trying the Atheros Killer Wifi in Linux though.
[18:39] <ryuo> How about all the switches, etc?
[18:40] <ryuo> carlgustav: another possiblity is protocol overhead. if you're using HTTPS, encryption overhead can be a bottleneck.
[18:40] <max12345> hey, I did the install, nothing obvious went wrong and now I just see a blinking cursor
[18:40] <max12345> where can I find an up to date and appropriate troubleshooting page I can go through?
[18:40] <carlgustav> @ryuo the bottleneck can't be anywhere else than a config issue with ubuntu, because i get overall full speed with multile files at the same time
[18:40] <daniel2> max12345: Sounds like X didn't load properly, maybe a driver issue?
[18:40] <carlgustav> *multiple
[18:41] <max12345> daniel2: that's possible, how can I fix it?
[18:41] <daniel2> can you hit ctrl + alt + f2 and access the terminal?
[18:41] <daniel2> Then you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:41] <max12345> daniel2: nope ctrl+alt+f2 does nothing
[18:41] <daniel2> Hmm, maybe SSH?  Although it sounds like it's hung during boot.
[18:41] <max12345> the bootstick worked fine, should I use that check what's wrong?
[18:43] <Jordan_U> max12345: What do you see on the screen during boot between turning power on and seeing the blinking cursor?
[18:43] <max12345> my motherboards info screen i.e. telling me what to press to go to the boot menu
[18:43] <max12345> nothing else I think, let me check
[18:44] <daniel2> UEFI or Legacy?
[18:44] <max12345> probably legacy.
[18:44] <carlgustav> @daniel2 it was an issue with 5ghz wifi and hidden ssids, but i managed to fix it after a while
[18:44] <max12345> shows the bios version I think but it's very short
[18:44] <daniel2> carlgustav: ah I see.  Yeah with FreeBSD the driver support for wifi is spotty.  12 is suppose to be a good release though.
[18:44] <max12345> I'll film it.
[18:45] <daniel2> max12345: Try entering the bios to be sure what it's set to.  Sometimes the block cursor thing happens due to EFI issues.
[18:46] <max12345> ok what am I looking for?
[18:46] <max12345> quick boot is disabled
[18:46] <max12345> ioapic?
[18:46] <carlgustav> @ryuo i tried all kinds of "speedtests" even like wget over http or ftp, still capped to 10MB/s
[18:47] <ryuo> carlgustav: did you try iperf?
[18:47] <carlgustav> @ryuo no not yet
[18:48] <ryuo> carlgustav: give it a try then.
[18:48] <carlgustav> @ryuo but the weird thing is that i get more than 10MB/s when i dl more files at once
[18:49] <ryuo> carlgustav: perhaps the server software is throttling individual connections.
[18:49] <ryuo> IDK.
[18:49] <ryuo> iperf can help you narrow down the possibilities.
[18:49] <ryuo> If it's a network issue, iperf should be bottlenecked as well.
[18:50] <carlgustav> @ryuo yea idk either, if i use a live-cd it just works fine on the same file
[18:50] <carlgustav> @ryuo and the other devices don't have that issue
[18:51] <carlgustav> @ryuo that's why i guessed the last system update changed a network config file somewhere, but i can't find it
[18:52] <carlgustav> @ryuo and changeing the mac address doesn't help either
[18:54] <ryuo> carlgustav: all I can say is you'll need to troubleshoot it yourself.
[18:56] <carlgustav> @ryuo no i'm thankful for your advice, but i can't fix it myself, that's why i'm here :)
[18:57] <ryuo> carlgustav: then try iperf already.
[19:00] <ylel9> hello
[19:06] <phelix> I have a folder inside my home folder that i want to create a ssh account and give them access to only a specific folder inside mine. Is this possible? I was able to get an account setup so they login and it goes to that folder. but they also have access to all my other files and can leave that folder.
[19:08] <leftyfb> phelix: why do you need to do this?
[19:08] <phelix> I have someone that i want to work on a project I started
[19:08] <phelix> I want to give them access to finish this
[19:08] <leftyfb> ok?
[19:09] <ryuo> So why can't you just use git repos or w/e?
[19:09] <phelix> So I want to let someone ssh to my server but keep them locked into a specific folder.
[19:09] <EternalMana> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and audio randomly goes scratchy every once in a while either on the onboard audio ouput or using my usb sound cards... I searched and on forums they suggest to add load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0
[19:09] <daniel2> https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-restricting-ssh-user-session-to-a-directory-chrooted-jail/ ?
[19:09] <EternalMana> woops
[19:09] <phelix> I want the work for this done on my server
[19:09] <max12345> I followed the ubuntu help stuff and I'm running the boot repair tool now.
[19:09] <phelix> And they don't have access to a shell account.
[19:09] <leftyfb> phelix: do bind mount the directory from your home directory into the new users home directory
[19:09] <leftyfb> do/so*
[19:10] <phelix> Ahh yes that prob a good idea.
[19:10] <EternalMana> Hello! I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and audio randomly goes scratchy every once in a while either on the onboard audio ouput or using my usb sound cards... I searched and on forums they suggest to add load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0 to the pulseaudio config but then pulseaudio refuses to start or play any sound... Anything I can do to make pulseaudio suck less? (insert angry controversial statement
[19:10] <EternalMana> about pulseaudio here)
[19:10] <leftyfb> !repeat | EternalMana
[19:11] <EternalMana> Yeah sorry ubottu >.> somehow when I pasted the url it ended up sending half my written question >.>
[19:11] <EternalMana> (silly bot)
[19:12] <coconut> phelix: you might want to consider an collaborative text editor too.
[19:12] <phelix> hmm ok
[19:14] <max12345> \o/ long live boot-repair
[19:15] <leftyfb> EternalMana: please don't PM
[19:33] <carlgustav> is it correct that if i use "wget -O /dev/null somefile" nothing gets saved on my drive or gets bypassed completely, so i could literally run this without a harddrive?
[19:34] <leftyfb> carlgustav: what's the end goal?
[19:34] <leftyfb> carlgustav: but yes, that should work
[19:35] <carlgustav> i have a speedcap somewhere, and i can't find where
[19:35] <carlgustav> and i thought my drive may be damaged
[19:36] <carlgustav> so i try all speedtests i can find to figure out why my dl speed gets capped to ~10MB/s
[19:37] <leftyfb> carlgustav: check your ethernet cable(s)
[19:37] <leftyfb> I had that and found out I was using an ancient cat3 cable
[19:39] <carlgustav> @leftyfb the cables are all fine, i can dl at full speed using a live-cd
[19:48] <phelix> I think that document page you showed me worked for restricting access. However, How can I gran access to nodejs?
[19:49] <phelix> I have tried doing what it does with other small commands like cp, rm etc that works fine. But getting some errors when the jailed user tries running node
[19:49] <phelix> or npm
[19:55] <mateothegreat> phelix: what's the error?
[19:56] <phelix> Unhandled rejection RequestError: Error: getaddrinfo ENOTFOUND i.instagram.com i.instagram.com:443
[19:56] <phelix> I get this when running it as the jailed user. But I can run it as root or someone with access to everything and it runs just fine
[19:58] <mateothegreat> as the user you're running node, can you run `nslookup i.instagram.com` ?
[19:59] <phelix> ahh user does not have access to that command.
[19:59] <phelix> Let me grant access to that and see what happens.
[20:00] <phelix> hmm nslookup works now. but still getting that same error
[20:01] <mateothegreat> are you running this in a jail?
[20:02] <phelix> yes
[20:02] <mateothegreat> if so, and you don't want to muck with permissions, just add i.instagram.com to /etc/hosts
[20:02] <phelix> ahh ok
[20:06] <mateothegreat> you probably need to mount /etc (and a few others) in your jail btw
[20:07] <phelix> hmm ok
[20:07] <phelix> I do have a bunch of stuff in the jail /etc.. but maybe I should just mount everything there.
[20:08] <mateothegreat> yea probably /etc, /lib, /usr/local maybe
[20:08] <mateothegreat> or mount everything, get your code working, and regress
[20:25] <phelix> Yea, not sure whats up. Seems no matter how hard I try or what files I add I can't get node to get internet access it seems. Everything times out. Even with npm I get ENOTFOUND
[20:43] <pragmaticenigma> phelix: Sounds like a question for the Node JS channels
[21:55] <urgodfather> Hello all
[22:12] <gp> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 for the first time.  I want to hardcode domain dns servers.  In the past I did it like this: echo "nameserver 172.28.14.11" >> /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[22:12] <gp> How do I make this happen on 18.04?
[22:13] <gp> It's causing me wonky name resolution issues with docker
[22:18] <gp> Reading about netplan seems like I have to configure dns servers with the network interface? Is that true?
[22:20] <urgodfather> gp, yes
[22:20] <urgodfather> Unless an op corrects me
[22:21] <gp> Well that ruins my day lol
[22:21] <bcx> Hello, I have sevral mime types registering the *.doc extension, how to define the *default* one (I check `gio info file.doc` output) ?
[22:22] <gp> How does one forcefully insert a nameserver in resolv.conf with the new system?
[22:22] <gp> in a persistant fashion
[22:23] <jhave> Hello
[22:25] <jhave> I have a problem with one server i dont understand this
[22:25] <jhave> its a 150GB disk but its only show as 4GB :(
[22:25] <jhave> https://pastebin.com/8pxwhrDM
[22:27] <gp> jhave: did you just happen to install 18.04 under hyper-v for the first time?
[22:27] <gp> cause that happened to me today
[22:27] <Colombo1> hey
[22:27] <gp> jhave: you probably need something along these lines
[22:27] <gp> sudo lvextend /dev/ubuntu-vg/ubuntu-lv /dev/sda3
[22:27] <gp> sudo resize2fs /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-ubuntu--lv
[22:27] <Colombo1> so I am like... lets upgrade from 17 to 18
[22:27] <Khaotic> TJ, bluetooth is down again :(
[22:28] <Colombo1> but then I look at removed software and WTF? Why is ubuntu removing the stuff that I actually use?
[22:28] <gp> jhave: get your physical device from sudo pvdisplay
[22:28] <Colombo1> Is there way to upgrade but keep my stuff?
[22:28] <LargePrime> Hi, I got help a few days ago with my realtek RTL8812AU and i installed rtl8812au-dkms.  it worked fine, but now the computer is acting like it cannot find the adapter again, and network-manager is not using it
[22:29] <hggdh> Colombo1: first of all, there is no versions 17 and 18. There are 17.04, 17.10, 18.04, and (by EOW next week) 18.10
[22:29] <LargePrime> is it possible a kernel update did not force a rebuild?
[22:30] <hggdh> Colombo1: second, did you install packages from other sources? What, specifically, would be removed?
[22:31] <Colombo1> hggdh: Obviously 17 means 17.XX, so either .04 or .10, and 18 means 18.xx, which due to suggested update, means the 18.04 LTS version.
[22:31] <hggdh> Colombo1: I am sorry, but it is not obvious. And there is no simple path from 17.04 to 18.04
[22:31] <Colombo1> hggdh: yeah, I suspect that some might be removed due to disabled sources (such as inkscape), but others are not, such as Evolution.
[22:32] <Colombo1> my bad then, I have 16.04 here.
[22:32] <jhave> gp, thanks its fixed it :)
[22:33] <gp> jhave: yw
[22:33] <hggdh> Colombo1: I see no reason for Evolution to be removed. I has been part of Ubuntu for many. many years, and it is still there. Perhaps you could pastebin this piece of the upgrade messages?
[22:34]  * hggdh goes AFK for a while
[22:37] <Colombo1> hggdh: https://imgur.com/a/QNpH1St I ran it in graphical mode. I will run it in terminal to provide a full list.
[22:37] <klu3> what's the channel for ubuntu mate?
[22:38] <Colombo1> klu3: this is the channel for ubuntu, mate.
[22:38] <compdoc> ha ha ha
[22:38] <klu3> Colmbo1: help me, i tried to install ati radeon 2600xt and when i tried to reboot comp, the gui wont load so i did ctrl+alt+F1 and purge remove ati's also did reconfigure xorg, now when i try to login it just stays in endless login loop, how can i fix this so i can get all my important files and just do a cold reformat of the system, im using ubuntu mate
 i normally use nvidia geforce 8600 gs
[22:39] <klu3> but i try to set everything to xorg or x whatever the default gui is
[22:41] <klu3> is this also possible using ubuntu mate live cd, and just putting the default files to my hdd
[22:43] <klu3> can anybody help me
[22:44] <urgodfather> klu3, what's wrong
[22:45] <klu3> urgodfather, my ubuntu mate is stuck in login loop
[22:46] <urgodfather> ah
[22:46] <urgodfather> I was reading up right now
[22:46] <urgodfather> So you tried to change your gfx card?
[22:47] <Colombo1> hggdh: pastebin: https://pastebin.com/GpaEu0jD
[22:50] <klu3> ya i had nvidia geforce also set to proprietary driver, then i switch to ati radeon 2600xt, graphic card works just not the hardware acceleration, read up online how to install catalyst everything is fine when i did reboot it shows black screen with login, after login in nothing happens so i do sudo startx and nothing is happening so i switch back to nvidia it work for a bit when i do startx, so i switch to xorg instead of nvidia proprietary,
[22:50] <klu3> i did purge ati as well also reconfigure xorg and a bunch of other stuff, now when i did reboot i comes up at login screen and it goes black then shows me the login screen again like im in a loop
[22:51] <klu3> i propbably didnt remove all of ati's file
[22:51] <klu3> i just like it so that everything is like fresh install where im not using nvidia proprietary but xorg or x or  whatever
[22:53] <klu3> if this is too complicated im thinking maybe just load ubuntu mate live cd and just load the default files to the hdd, isnt that what you do when the grub gets mess up
[22:53] <klu3> also as last resort im thinking just accessing my hdd thru ubuntu mate live cd, but the disk is encrypted with luks i believe
[22:53] <urgodfather> Oh fun
[22:54] <urgodfather> You got encryption too :(
[22:54] <klu3> the encryption that comes with ubuntu installation, thats luks right?
[22:54] <EriC^^> correct
[22:55] <klu3> or i could just try to access the file just doing a boot from hdd, go pass luks encryption, then login, but like i said everything is black so it'll be hard to navigate thru home folder with command line, im newb at linux not use to moving around folders via command line
[22:57] <tomreyn> klu3: do you know what the grub menu is and how to get there?
[22:59] <klu3> yea i think so, when i turn on my computer usually it shows me the encryption window login to unlock drive but when i turn off the pc then turn it bakc on again, it shows me the same thing and then i un encrypt then instead of asking for user pass, it takes me to grub
[22:59] <klu3> is the solution in the grub settings?
[23:00] <tomreyn> klu3: that's not the best way to get to grub. instead, reboot and hold down eft shift, or keep pressing escape at boot.
[23:00] <tomreyn> klu3: i don*t know what the solution is since i dont know what exactly the problem is.
[23:00] <tomreyn> (or rather what causes it exactly9
[23:02] <tomreyn> klu3: when you're at grub menu, select advanced, then the topmost "recovery" option
[23:02] <tomreyn> on the menu that comes up, just resume boot. are you then able to login fine?
[23:04] <klu3> yea on normal boot i get to the login screen with gui, and when i type in pass the screen goes black then show me the login screen again, like infinite log in loop
[23:04] <klu3> i went to advance grub
[23:05] <klu3> ok im in recovery menu
 on the menu that comes up, just resume boot. are you then able to login fine?
[23:07] <klu3> no still showing me login screen after i login
[23:08] <Bashing-om> klu3: "sudo
[23:08] <klu3> i was reading something online and someone figure out their problem by reading the .xsession-errors but i dont know how to read it to find problem, i can show you but idk how to copy the file to an external thumbdrive
[23:10] <klu3> so i can then open the file on this other computer im using right now so i can copy and paste the contents of .xsession-erros to pastebin
[23:10] <klu3> Bashing-om sudo what?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> klu3: "sudo startx" UN-good as now root owns your desktop - I bet. From an F2 console, what shows ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' ?
[23:11] <klu3> oh that yea it shows me .Xauthority
[23:11] <klu3> well let me try again to make sure
[23:11] <Bashing-om> klu3: Bit the owner and group should be you .. not 'root' :P
[23:12] <Bashing-om> but*
[23:13] <klu3> Bashing-om, i follow your suggestion, i did ctrl+alt+f2; login; sudo startx; and now im in my desktop with gui
[23:14] <klu3> thnx dude
[23:14] <klu3> im gonna start copying files before something weird happens
[23:14] <klu3> just gonna do cold reformart and do fresh install
[23:16] <Bashing-om> klu3: Fresh is good .. so long as you have thought of all you want restored .. make "good" backup :)
[23:16] <urgodfather> klu3, make a habit of keeping important stuff on cold storage
[23:16] <urgodfather> Ie flash drives, external, cloud, network, etc
[23:17] <OerHeks> if you have no backup, your data is unimportant
[23:17] <urgodfather> yep
[23:18] <Bashing-om> klu3: "sudo startx" is bad bad bad .... doing "sudo" in your home directory will have undesired side effects ( like root owns /home) .
[23:19] <klu3> after i login with user pass it shows user@pcname  but when i do startx it says denied then says something about .xauthority but sudo works
[23:19] <klu3> so if root owns my home right now, how i can transfer it back to me user@pcname
[23:20] <mateothegreat> sudo chown -R <user>.<group> /home/<user>
[23:21] <klu3> thnx
[23:53] <klu3> mateothegreat, i did the command <user> groups to find out what groups i belong to and the result are- <user> : <user> adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare; so when i do the command sudo chown -R <user>.<group> /home/<user> which group should i put for <group> ?
[23:58] <Bashing-om> klu3: Let'a say on your system your user name is klu3; then a doable command would look like ' sudo chown klu3:klu3 .ICEauthority ; sudo chown klu3:klu3 .Xauthority ' .