[00:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8f47b43b8638: Clean up index.rst.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8f47b43b8638 [00:20] @kc2bez: you get it all figured out? [00:20] Yo yo yo wxl [00:20] How goes it? [00:20] yo yo yo [00:20] wuzzuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup [00:20] wazaaaaaaaaaaaap [00:20] wxl: #lubuntu-es is now a thing [00:20] you DID say that XD [00:20] I think I am almost there. :wxl [00:20] @Wolfenprey did a little Spanish language promotional tweet. [00:21] cool and cool [00:21] Anyway I'm just going through and polishing rough edges in the manual. [00:21] k [00:21] do those cala/casper changes need to be checked or is that done? [00:22] Yeah, I'd double check those real quick to make sure. [00:22] i can do that [00:23] could you track down climby if you have better access to him than me and ensure that the final fix for the efi is ok on his end? [00:23] sure [00:23] it would be really really dumb to go through all that only to find it again doesn't work for him XD [00:24] Right. [00:33] @tsimonq2 @HMollerCl i'm sure one of you can answer this: does the installer actually install language support somehow or does that need to be done manually? [00:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL55f0c07ca4fd: Clean up 1.1.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL55f0c07ca4fd [00:33] wxl: It does locale-gen but if the locales aren't there, it can't do anything with it. [00:34] see here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2018-October/001364.html "Using LO Writer, I pressed F1 for help and [00:34] got the message "LibreOffice builtin help for current UI language [00:34] (English(USA)) is not installed on your system" and this is wrong because I [00:34] told the installer to use British English. [00:34] " [00:35] O_o [00:35] hmm, wait a second [00:35] Right, LibreOffice is awful and convoluted this way... IT HAS ITS OWN BILLION LANGPACKS [00:35] ughhh [00:35] sec [00:36] well poop on a stick we should be providing those! [00:36] !upkg libreoffice-help-en-gb [00:36] Factoid 'upkg libreoffice-help-en-gb' not found [00:36] ugh [00:36] XD [00:36] !info libreoffice-help-en-gb [00:36] libreoffice-help-en-gb (source: libreoffice-l10n): office productivity suite -- English_british help. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.1.2-0ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 2412.1 kB, installed size 25534 kB [00:37] Sure freaking enough... sigh [00:37] so are we supposed to have all that crab on ship-live? [00:37] uhm [00:37] Look at how big the darn thing is. [00:37] Wanna add a gig to the ISO? [00:37] i know........ [00:37] sooooo [00:38] is there a metapackage that picks the right one per your locale? that would be smart [00:38] !info libreoffice-help-en [00:38] Package libreoffice-help-en does not exist in cosmic [00:38] ugh [00:38] see, idk [00:38] -en-us [00:38] !info libreoffice-help-en-us [00:38] libreoffice-help-en-us (source: libreoffice-l10n): office productivity suite -- English_american help. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.1.2-0ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 2437.1 kB, installed size 25551 kB [00:38] ok, so we can do that much... [00:39] @wxl [ @tsimonq2 @HMollerCl i'm sure one of you can answer this: does the install …], What do you mean with language support? [00:39] hah yes we don't even have that!!!!! [00:39] hahahahaha [00:39] ok [00:39] fixing [00:40] they should really handle this a different way. it's kind of dumb [00:40] others ship libreoffice right/ whwat do they do? [00:40] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [00:41] @HMollerCl [What do you mean with language support?], You are talking about libreOffice? [00:41] yeah @HMollerCl [00:41] actually there's also l10n packages [00:41] e.g. [00:41] !info libreoffice-l10n-en-gb [00:41] libreoffice-l10n-en-gb (source: libreoffice-l10n): office productivity suite -- English_british language package. In component main, is optional. Version 1:6.1.2-0ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 520.8 kB, installed size 2858 kB [00:41] I will see, need to turn on my pc [00:41] This will have to be done with the smart package removal module next cycle I think. [00:42] Because here's the thing. [00:42] He's right, Cala does get the locale. [00:42] If someone wants LibreOffice and they set it to a different locale, they should get the darn langpacks too :( [00:42] but yeah [00:42] but it seems to me it's a simple matter of libreoffice packaging not being smart enough to grab he language support [00:42] Kubuntu doesn't ship these langpacks [00:42] soooo [00:43] I think we should at LEAST throw libreoffice-help-en-us in there. [00:43] they're not shipping lo are they? [00:43] Yeah they do [00:43] I have Peppermint on hand. I'll check it too. [00:43] Cool [00:44] like libreoffice-common should have a dependency on a virtual package or two. that seems like it would solve the issue [00:45] Never mind, they don't ship LibreOffice.... [00:45] ah [00:45] Anyway, I've done a quick fix for now [00:45] wxl: Mind adding that to the "smart package removal" task? [00:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEEDdcce9d952d26: At least add the LibreOffice help docs for United States English.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEEDdcce9d952d26 [00:46] i'm not sure how i get how tbat's relevant UNLESS all the language support packages are there and we need to remove some [00:47] We already do that with general langpacks. [00:47] But the same darn logic should apply with these. [00:47] Maybe work it into the package selector. [00:47] so you ARE saying to add 1g? XD [00:47] Maybe libreOffice is intended to use online help mostly [00:47] wxl: no, I'm saying to pull from the network if langpacks aren't there [00:47] ANYWAY [00:47] That's next cycle stuff. [00:48] This is quick hack that works for now so shush :)( [00:48] *:) [00:48] for the US folks [00:48] yup [00:48] Ok, I have LibreOffice in windows. It doesn't come with help [00:48] everyone else is screwed :) [00:48] wxl: Waaaaay too late to do anything about it though. :P [00:48] um [00:49] i'm on the new iso and it's not just launching [00:49] the installer [00:49] the trust flag is set [00:49] (Photo, 494x171) https://i.imgur.com/UFT9aJU.jpg help in windows libreoffice [00:50] wxl: uh oh, what did you break? XD [00:51] whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy is it not working [00:51] whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat did you break? [00:51] OH NO [00:51] uh oh [00:51] I haven't checked today's, been busy. I will download. [00:52] wxl: SPIT IT OUT!!! [00:52] What's wrong? XD [00:52] hold on [00:52] i don't think i broke it [00:52] but i think it's the wrong flag [00:52] "trusted" not "trust" [00:52] >_____________________________< [00:52] are you FREAKING serious :P [00:52] confirm it [00:52] working on it [00:52] "never trust" [00:52] 😆 [00:53] AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH [00:53] WHY [00:54] uh oh XD [00:54] why would lxqt come up with their own magic flag... why?!!!!!!! [00:54] OH [00:54] THAT'S THE REASON? [00:54] OH [00:54] MY [00:54] YEAH [00:54] GOD [00:54] AGAIDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA [00:54] Using LO Writer, I pressed F1 for help and [00:54] got the message "LibreOffice builtin help for current UI language [00:54] (English(USA)) is not installed on your system" and this is wrong because I [00:54] told the installer to use British English. [00:54] ugh [00:54] wrong paste [00:54] GET THE PITCHFORKS XD [00:54] hold on [00:54] https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/ubuntu/+source/casper/tree/scripts/casper-bottom/25adduser?h=ubuntu/devel&id=b6faf8f7440165f2c468ccfa289a2d679f30b9a7#n87 [00:55] wait [00:55] NO [00:55] ff saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake [00:55] anyway [00:55] enough complaining XD [00:55] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/libfm-qt/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/debian/patches/add-metadata-for-trusting-executables.patch$33 [00:56] BAD [00:56] BAD [00:56] wxl: So, your choice. [00:56] and bad me for seeing "oh man it's metadata::trust we're good" [00:56] ugh [00:56] Patch casper or patch libfm-qt and yell at upstream? [00:57] well the latter will probably take longer but it would be ideal [00:57] k [00:57] well [00:57] I can JFDI. [00:57] Let me go talk to Adam. [00:57] wxl: THANK YOU for finding this XD [00:57] patching casper should be admittedly easy [00:57] Right. [00:57] basically i'd advocate for making our own stanza [00:58] just copypasta 82-90 and the test would be -f "/root/usr/share/applications/calamares.desktop" [00:58] ugh lubuntu-calamares.desktop [00:59] bah [00:59] no [00:59] we're fixing libfm-qt [00:59] weeeelllll [00:59] Let me talk to Adam. [00:59] so the issue is that is metadata::trsuted instead of metadata:trust ?? [00:59] YES SO STUPID [00:59] wxl: YOU get to go yell at agaida for this one [00:59] kthxloveyoubai [00:59] bah [01:00] to be fair he didn't make the problem [01:00] i'm not sure, too, if this is canonical everywhere. but it does seem like something gnome does [01:00] I wonder why they didn't create an entry in the .desktop to trust. Security reason? [01:01] i don't see a bunch of other references outside of that [01:06] my user interface in libreoffice is english USA [01:06] my locale is sapnish chile. [02:31] @HMollerCl i do admit it would be a nice thing to add to the desktop specification [02:32] but indeed maybe that is a security issue [04:26] @tsimonq2: you know how we have multiple contextprocesses in calamares? can we have multiple netinstalls? [04:26] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: you know how we have multiple contextprocesses in calamares? ca …], I dunno, try it. [04:27] it seems that would be the solution to the libreoffice issue, since we'll need to use it once for letting users pick apps [04:28] although we probably really need to write our own module based off of it [04:28] one that asks the user if they want to install the stuff or not [04:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T105: LibreOffice needs language/l10n support] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T105 [05:13] it looks to me like encryption on efi fails for some reason https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C23z4N2XQw/ [05:15] What the heck o_O [05:15] Can you reproduce that multiple times? [05:17] i'll try again in a bit [05:18] seems to be the grub-pc error [05:29] Bah [05:34] @tsimonq2: could it be something about grub-pc being UPGRADED? [05:35] @tsimonq2: furthermore, what about the issues that it seems to need a TERM/TERMCAP variable? [05:35] I know just as much as you do dude, figure it out :) [05:35] Can you reproduce it more than once? [05:36] it's also weird that grub-pc is being used instead of grub-efi-amd64 [05:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL946a0f8613aa: pcmanfm-qt.rst copy paste and how to get to removeable media and remote servers.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL946a0f8613aa [05:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T106: theme GRUB] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T106 [06:03] well it's reproducible [06:03] getting it to explicitly install grub-efi-amd64 desn't help [06:03] whether sudo or not, in sh or bash, TERM=xterm256color [06:05] ah but in session settings it's qterminal [06:06] it's as if the session has its own set of variables [06:29] @tsimonq2: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/thGv4q3rdw/ after changing session settings to xterm as default TERM. note "new version" in 1983. i think it's asking what version of the config file we want to keep. aigh. [06:32] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/thGv4q3rdw/ after changing session s …], Oh dear. This doesn't have a non-interactive flag we can use? [06:32] 'cause this kinda sucks :) [06:32] @tsimonq2: not sure... and not sure we want to use it if it does. [06:32] why is it upgrading grub-pc is what i don't understanding [06:41] DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive may do the trick [06:53] it doesn't [06:53] we need to figure out the differences [06:55] maybe if we didn't update we wouldn't have the problem [06:57] OR MAYBE IT"S BECAUSE WE"RE USING APT [06:57] we're using the --no-upgrade switch [06:57] it's obviously not working [06:58] i got to sleep though [07:00] if anyone is around with a 64 bit efi (virtualbox works), edit /etc/calamares/modules/before_bootloader_context.conf and change the `apt install`s to `apt-get install` and then run the installer, but use encryption [07:00] i need to know if i fails or not an if it fails, how [07:07] adding `DEBCONF_FRONTEND=readline` before the `apt-get`s (i.e. `VARIABLE=value command options arguments`) might help shed some light on the problems [07:07] zzz [11:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T106: theme GRUB] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T106#2194 [11:54] G'day y'all [11:58] Ha :D https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2018-October/004617.html [12:07] wxl: hey wxl, let me know if there's any bug specific things you want me to help out with this week. I'm gonna go through that qt guide this week after work so I'm on par with you guys in terms of qt. So far it's been going well with it so far, no compiling issues or glitches with qtcreator. Do you guys use qtcreator btw? [12:07] @Wafficus [wxl: hey wxl, let me know if there's any bug specific things you want me to help …], I don't use Qt Creator at all but then again my IDE is Vim so don't listen to me 😆 [12:08] This week is going to be slow unless you're directly working on testing the ISOs or firefighting Broken Things. [12:08] Nah I like Vim too #ChurchOfVim [12:08] 'cause that's mainly what we're focused on. [12:08] @Wafficus [Nah I like Vim too #ChurchOfVim], Hah well cool 👍 [12:11] You just compile with G++? [12:12] CMake usually [12:29] Ah gotcha makes sense [12:29] If you guys see some very low level qt and c++ bug related stuff lemme know cause id love to put it to the test [12:29] *this week [12:30] I tested yesterdays daily image and it was fine btw. Looking good guys [15:16] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: libfm-qt (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.13.1-5ubuntu6 => 0.13.1-5ubuntu7] (lubuntu) [15:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLIBFMQTPACKAGING9abec1c8dddc: Check (and set) metadata::trusted instead of metadata::trust.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGING9abec1c8dddc [15:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLIBFMQTPACKAGINGcd29302e86d1: Upload to Cosmic.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLIBFMQTPACKAGINGcd29302e86d1 [15:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T106: theme GRUB] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T106#2195 [16:16] @tsimonq2: https://github.com/lxqt/libfm-qt/pull/242#issuecomment-429918205 [16:16] Pull 242 in lxqt/libfm-qt "Support adding metadata for trusting executables" [Merged] [18:38] wxl: Responded there. What in the heck with bug 1797887 X__X [18:38] Error: Could not get data from Launchpad: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/unit193/junk/bots/ubot93/data/tmp/launchpadlib/api.launchpad.net/cache/.tempgt9wk0ad' (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797887) [18:38] uhmmmmmmmmm [18:39] hggdh: ^ [18:39] for trusting executables" [Merged] [18:39] 01:38:47 PM < tsimonq2> wxl: Responded there. What in the heck with bug 1797887 X__X [18:39] 01:38:48 PM < ubot93> Error: Could not get data from Launchpad: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: [18:39] ugh [18:40] tsimonq2: looking it up [18:40] bug 1797887 [18:40] Error: Could not get data from Launchpad: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/unit193/junk/bots/ubot93/data/tmp/launchpadlib/api.launchpad.net/cache/.tempdi1sptj2' (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797887) [18:41] hum. The bug is public, and the error points to unit193's bot [18:43] @tsimonq2: i'll figure that out. you figure out the efi/amd64/encryption bug. i give up. [18:45] wxl: ack [18:45] wxl: Secure boot or no secure boot? [18:45] wxl: Just EFI? Full disk encryption too? [18:45] well, it's vbox so [18:45] BAH [18:45] BAD [18:46] ok so does BAD vbox use secureboot? :) [18:46] but it's the combination of efi and encryption [18:46] without encryption it works fine [18:46] with encryption it blows up on the efi bit [18:46] what in tarnation [18:46] ok [18:46] because of what i showed you last night [18:46] OH yeah this one almost feels obvious [18:47] installing the efi package requries installing grub-pc which requires a change to the config [18:47] I'm willing to bet the postinst script fails because of the way Cala sets up the encrpytion [18:47] i tried flipping the location of grubcfg to no avail [18:47] I have a feeling if we just had Cala ignore that failure it would be all fine [18:47] bet [18:47] * tsimonq2 reproduces [18:47] accepting the default fails [18:48] right [18:48] exactly [18:48] all cala does to grub (or all it should do) is add an option [18:49] well [18:49] that's all grubcfg does [18:49] Our apt install is what fails [18:49] Cala knows how to config GRUB [18:49] postinst installing the package also thinks it does [18:49] so [18:49] bad [18:50] well that brings me to another notion [18:50] we're using --no-upgrade but this all happens because grub-pc is getting upgraded [18:50] perhaps there's a hard requirement with the efi package [18:50] Because the postinst script is being ran [18:50] That's the problem [18:51] It has nothing to do with the package *itself* [18:51] the postinst of the efi package is upgrading grub-pc? [18:51] It's the "smart" configuration it tries to do [18:51] noooo [18:51] postinst of upgrading grub-pc [18:51] ugh [18:51] but you're missing what i'm saying [18:51] we're using --no-upgrade but this all happens because grub-pc is getting upgraded [18:51] just let me fix it :) [18:51] right [18:51] and? [18:51] grub-pc should not be getting upgraded because we're explicitly asking for no upgrades [18:52] so any problem with the postinst of grub-pc should be totally irrelevant [18:52] Maybe it's being ran for some other reason. [18:52] I don't know, I'm going to put on some music and bang out a solution for this :) [18:52] good luck [18:52] Thanks [18:53] Oh and by the way, our libfm-qt fix landed. [18:53] Testing in the live ISO [18:54] HUZZAH IT WORKS [18:54] s/$trust$/\1ed/ ? [18:55] yes [19:27] Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1051917282954420225 [19:27] 😆 [19:27] I am so taking full advantage of that GIF [19:54] @tsimonq2: i don't know if this is helpful to you but here's an unencrypted EFI grub.cfg https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5f3pzkRB2b/ and here's an encrypted BIOS https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/whqXHFKBQY/ [19:56] wxl: Not particularly helpful, but thanks. [19:58] @tsimonq2: btw libfm-qt fix confirmed. i booted the ISO, upgraded, restarted sddm, and it all Just Works™ [19:58] so i'm checking that off [19:58] it's basically done once we respin the images [19:59] should i bother doing that now or wait until you get the EFI encryption fixed? [20:01] Wait. [20:01] By the way, we now have time on our side. Adam and a few others are at Canonical offices in London. :P [20:09] seems like desktop has some major bugs too :/ [20:16] wxl: Oh? [20:16] Like what? [20:16] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1794280 [20:16] Error: Could not get data from Launchpad: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/home/unit193/junk/bots/ubot93/data/tmp/launchpadlib/api.launchpad.net/cache/.temp9mkedeq4' (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794280) [20:18] btw most of this guy's games are in the repos https://gottcode.org/ [20:19] i'm sure with a little effort, we could get the other ones in there [20:19] and then make a metapackage out of them [20:26] @wxl [ http://launchpad.net/bugs/1794280], Oh jeez [20:26] @wxl [ btw most of this guy's games are in the repos https://gottcode.org/], Heh, yeah === guiver_d is now known as guiverc [21:55] @tsimonq2: is it fixed yet? [21:57] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: is it fixed yet?], Not yet. [21:58] making headway at least? [21:58] Yep [21:58] good, cuz i was spinning in circles [22:09] Hey team, checking in before later tonight going through that qt guide, are there any issues needing specific testing with the dailies this week? [22:20] @Wafficus nothing big right now. [22:27] wxl: gotcha lemme know with a ping whenever then [22:33] bonacin91 was added by: bonacin91 [22:33] hey @bonacin91! [22:34] there's still work to be done if you're looking for something to do :) [23:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL50315a56eab0: Add equals sign to see the answer.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL50315a56eab0 [23:49] :wxl I think I am ready to go as far as helping with the manual. I know lyorian can use a hand. [23:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL05bc7add5ff2: Fix screenshot for 2048-qt.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL05bc7add5ff2 [23:53] :wxl just need a walkthrough when you get a chance.