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| didrocks | good morning | 06:46 |
| jibel | Salut didrocks | 06:48 |
| didrocks | salut jibel | 06:50 |
| jibel | didrocks, ça va? tu as passé un bon w-e? | 06:51 |
| duflu | o/ didrocks, jibel \o | 07:15 |
| didrocks | jibel: bon week-end, ensoleillé, un peu de jeux pour Martin, donc c'était sympa | 07:16 |
| didrocks | et toi ? | 07:16 |
| didrocks | hello duflu | 07:16 |
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| jibel | didrocks, match de hand samedi et ciné hier sinon repos | 07:20 |
| jibel | good morning duflu | 07:20 |
| didrocks | sympa :) | 07:21 |
| didrocks | jibel: do you want us to coordonate iso testing? I think I have some free slots to give some help if needed | 07:35 |
| jibel | didrocks, that's fine for the moment, I'm reviewing all the test cases to make sure nothing is utterly broken then we'll have more respins. | 07:40 |
| jibel | didrocks, although wednesday and thursday are usually busy and any help will be welcome | 07:41 |
| didrocks | jibel: deal! :) | 07:42 |
| jibel | Trevinho, Hi, have you been able to reproduce bug 1794280 on latest desktop image (buid 20181013.1) ? | 07:44 |
| ubot5 | bug 1794280 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Cosmic) "gdm doesn't start on a fresh installation of Cosmic Desktop" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794280 | 07:44 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 07:51 |
| duflu | Morning seb128. How goes? | 07:51 |
| seb128 | good! you? | 07:51 |
| jibel | bonjour seb128 | 07:52 |
| seb128 | lut jibel | 07:52 |
| seb128 | did you have a good w.e? | 07:52 |
| jibel | seb128, oui bien et toi? | 07:52 |
| duflu | seb128, yes pretty good. I feel I've almost caught up on my pre-travel domestic tasks | 07:52 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 07:53 |
| seb128 | nickel, y a fait beau et les gastros étaient passées pour tout le monde :) | 07:53 |
| didrocks | enfin un week-end tranquil donc ? :) | 07:53 |
| seb128 | ouais :) | 07:54 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 08:17 |
| seb128 | lut oSoMoN, en forme ? t'as passé un bon w.e ? | 08:18 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 08:21 |
| duflu | Hi oSoMoN | 08:21 |
| oSoMoN | salut seb128, didrocks, duflu | 08:25 |
| oSoMoN | excellent long week-end, oui, merci! | 08:25 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, bug #1797851 started with your most recent change, would be nice if you could have a look | 08:28 |
| ubot5 | bug 1797851 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/nautilus:11:g_type_check_instance_cast:NAUTILUS_SEARCH_PROVIDER:nautilus_search_engine_stop:stop_search:disconnect_model_handlers" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797851 | 08:28 |
| didrocks | seb128: so, on check-language-support, it's even worse than I thought | 08:40 |
| didrocks | the info of "installed / want to have installed languages is coming from account services" | 08:40 |
| didrocks | on a fresh "french" selected installation, the list is: | 08:40 |
| didrocks | fr_CA en_US fr_FR en en_AU fr en_GB en_CA | 08:41 |
| didrocks | so some variants for french and english | 08:41 |
| didrocks | english is set at install time selecting en_US + fr_FR | 08:41 |
| didrocks | the others seems to be pulled by account-services, I think that's the switch to account-services which (maybe?) has us regressed | 08:42 |
| didrocks | and what I told the other days stays: if we select "en", all en_* are then selected | 08:42 |
| didrocks | /usr/share/language-tools/language-options is in perl… hum | 08:43 |
| didrocks | but: | 08:44 |
| didrocks | # add items without country code to facilitate lookups | 08:44 |
| didrocks | ( my $lang = $loc ) =~ s/_[A-Z]+//; | 08:44 |
| didrocks | so stripping the _ is something done on purpose in language-options | 08:44 |
| seb128 | hum | 08:46 |
| seb128 | I don't think the use of account-services is any recent, it was probably there at the time we looked at the topic for xenial and probably didn't change since | 08:46 |
| didrocks | yeah, just checked that, oneiric | 08:47 |
| didrocks | but maybe it wasn't doing the above stripping of _, which leads to that… | 08:47 |
| didrocks | anyway, ubiquity / check-language-support should be in sync (one using the other one) to determine what to install / remove | 08:47 |
| didrocks | I wonder though how much effort this is, depending if we replace the installer… | 08:48 |
| didrocks | (also, the seed should be in sync with check-language-support, which isn't the case) | 08:48 |
| didrocks | that's separate from L_aney issue though, which is to ensure at least if you select en_GB, that en_GB is indeed selected and not en_US | 08:49 |
| seb128 | right | 08:53 |
| seb128 | we should maybe talk to GunnarHj about it, he knows the tricks in those perl scripts and why they are there | 08:53 |
| didrocks | yeah | 08:53 |
| didrocks | because it sounds really like a yak shaving task :p | 08:54 |
| didrocks | but at least, understanding this could be in a new installer redesign | 08:54 |
| didrocks | (fortunately, the perl script isn't really long) | 08:54 |
| seb128 | well, if that worked in xenial the diff/change/bug is probably trivial, I doubt we had any "real change" in that stack | 08:57 |
| seb128 | but yeah, doing it properly is likely yak shaving | 08:57 |
| seb128 | and it doesn't seem important/high priority | 08:57 |
| seb128 | thanks for investigating | 08:57 |
| seb128 | I don't think it's worth persuing more atm, unless you have interest to get to the bottom of it | 08:58 |
| seb128 | otherwise maybe record what you found in a bug report and call it enough for now? | 08:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: it worked in xenial when I tested it | 08:58 |
| didrocks | in January 2016 | 08:58 |
| didrocks | but not in 16.04.5 as told on Friday | 08:58 |
| didrocks | so, even diffing isn't trivial :/ | 08:59 |
| didrocks | I'm just printing a little bit what we get in the perl functions, and yes, file that in a bug report | 08:59 |
| seb128 | didrocks, weird that it regression in a point update, or maybe it got buggy before .0 went out? | 09:05 |
| didrocks | I think there is a high chance of regression before .0 IMHO | 09:05 |
| Laney | moin | 09:14 |
| didrocks | hey Laney, how is London? | 09:17 |
| Laney | grey, cold | 09:19 |
| Laney | but i'm with some GREAT! GUYS! | 09:19 |
| Laney | how are you? | 09:19 |
| didrocks | I'm good, thanks! Overall great week-end :) | 09:20 |
| didrocks | you are with great gruys, unlike every week on IRC, I see, I see :p | 09:20 |
| Laney | i can touch these people | 09:25 |
| * Laney touches sil2100 to prove it | 09:25 | |
| seb128 | hey Laney, how is the office? | 09:26 |
| didrocks | "good" news, if you try to apply updates via GNOME Software, at least, you nothing is applied on boot, so you don't end up in a broken situation | 09:28 |
| seb128 | ? | 09:29 |
| didrocks | well, you mentioned on Friday that GNOME Software update panel isn't hidden, which is a bug to fix | 09:29 |
| seb128 | you are referring to bug #1797543 ? | 09:29 |
| ubot5 | bug 1797543 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Gnome-software - unable to update software - Button Restart & Update, restarts no updates applied" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797543 | 09:29 |
| seb128 | I don't think your statement is always true | 09:29 |
| didrocks | ah? | 09:29 |
| didrocks | I have a mix of "system updates" + apps | 09:29 |
| seb128 | we had report from foundations in bionic that it leads to screwed update when debconf is involved | 09:29 |
| seb128 | maybe you didn't have anything with debconf | 09:30 |
| didrocks | could be, indeed, or maybe another package to install triggers packagekit to activate? | 09:30 |
| didrocks | (I'm a vanilla, default install) | 09:30 |
| seb128 | well, that prompt kicks in the offline updates from packagekit | 09:30 |
| seb128 | so if you reboot it does install updates in background I think | 09:31 |
| didrocks | which did nothing at all for me (no update, nothing) | 09:31 |
| seb128 | nothing visible | 09:31 |
| seb128 | you are sure it didn't install them in a way you didn't notice? | 09:31 |
| didrocks | I checked the package list and version before/after | 09:31 |
| didrocks | identical | 09:31 |
| seb128 | k, another bug then :p | 09:31 |
| seb128 | it "worked" for some people in bionic | 09:31 |
| didrocks | well, a "good" one in that case :) | 09:31 |
| didrocks | yeah :/ | 09:31 |
| seb128 | so either that "regressed" | 09:31 |
| seb128 | or it's random | 09:31 |
| didrocks | could be, tried twice to ensure… | 09:32 |
| seb128 | anyway I would prefer if Robert fixed it, he knows what to change from his comment on the bug | 09:32 |
| seb128 | but I think he called it a day without having uploaded anyway | 09:32 |
| didrocks | or maybe you install something else which then hook up in the boot | 09:32 |
| seb128 | unsure how much it's a release vs SRU issue | 09:32 |
| didrocks | yeah, as I didn't see anything coming, I wanted to check how bad that was | 09:32 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 09:42 |
| Laney | it's alright yeah | 09:42 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you know if there is any particular fixes we are interested in on new evince for bionic? | 09:46 |
| Trevinho | jibel: kvm yes... and i think is the same of willcooke one, I've spent some time on it already. | 09:48 |
| Trevinho | And looking at it still | 09:49 |
| Trevinho | seb128: hi seb, ok | 09:49 |
| jibel | Trevinho, I didn't try on kvm but I cannot reproduce it anymore on hw | 09:55 |
| Trevinho | jibel: kvm on qxl happens here. Time dependent a sleep fixes it | 09:56 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: ^ | 09:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: (as you just left when I posted that): do you know if there is any particular fixes we are interested in on new evince for bionic? | 09:58 |
| didrocks | like some particular checks I should put in the test case? | 09:58 |
| seb128 | not that I know no, sorry | 09:59 |
| didrocks | no worry, preferred to double check! | 09:59 |
| didrocks | I'll discuss the ps thingy with our security team though | 09:59 |
| didrocks | to ensure that's ok | 09:59 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: cannot run libvirt-bin.service here so I cannot test | 11:18 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I've pushed nautilus branches for both cosmic and bionic. | 12:13 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, bionic is another regression fix for the current SRU? | 12:17 |
| Trevinho | seb128: it's fixing the pkg in sru queue | 12:18 |
| Trevinho | seb128: so, I was wondering if mentioning the bug in changelog or not, but for sure it doesn't need classic verification | 12:19 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, if there was not git to deal with I would just re-upload to replace the current SRU from the queue without changing the version/changelog/bug reference | 12:23 |
| seb128 | unsure what to do with the vcs in that case though | 12:24 |
| Trevinho | seb128: well, we can still do some force pushes, but not sure :-P | 12:26 |
| seb128 | yeah, it would be bzr I would bzr uncommit; change; bzr commit; bzr push --overwrite | 12:27 |
| seb128 | just how do that with git doesn't stick for me, or it feels too hackish | 12:28 |
| Trevinho | seb128: you can do the same on git, l_aney wouldn't like it but I can give you the recipe for the happiness if you want xD | 12:28 |
| seb128 | haha | 12:29 |
| seb128 | what happens if you tag again the same revision? it moves the tag to the new commit? | 12:29 |
| seb128 | I mean tag again using the same tag string | 12:29 |
| seb128 | not tagging the same commit id | 12:29 |
| Laney | it is exactly the same level of hackiness as it would be with bzr | 12:45 |
| Laney | you have to delete the tag and then re-tag | 12:48 |
| jbicha | seb128: by default anyone who has pulled the old tag won't get the new tag so if you think people might have the old tag, it may be better to use a new tag name | 12:55 |
| jbicha | also version numbers are cheap so it might just be easier to use a higher version number | 12:55 |
| jbicha | good morning | 12:56 |
| didrocks | morning jbicha | 12:59 |
| seb128 | hey jbicha | 12:59 |
| seb128 | jbicha, is that a bug that people won't get the tag change or by design? | 13:01 |
| jbicha | that's git upstream. I guess it's intentional | 13:02 |
| seb128 | :( | 13:03 |
| jbicha | willcooke: I experience something that looks kinda like bug 1796822 if I enable automatic login in Settings > Details > Users then reboot (using VirtualBox after installing cosmic) | 13:03 |
| ubot5 | bug 1796822 in xorg-server (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Desktop live cd boots corrupted screen in Virtualbox on Bionic" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1796822 | 13:03 |
| jbicha | do you think Debian bug 910892 is worth handling now in cosmic? (by uncommenting those header lines) | 13:05 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 910892 in gdm3 "gdm3: greeter.dconf-defaults is confusing for users" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/910892 | 13:05 |
| seb128 | that doesn't seem important enough to be accepted now | 13:06 |
| seb128 | could be a SRU though | 13:07 |
| jbicha | seb128: because it would trigger a debconf prompt for anyone who has modified those files, I don't think it's very good for an SRU | 13:07 |
| jbicha | or maybe it wouldn't trigger debconf, it's a strange file | 13:07 |
| didrocks | well, it's fine for a 0-day SRU, as it's only for updates | 13:11 |
| seb128 | or it's fine for cosmic+1 | 13:13 |
| seb128 | it's only an issue for users who sudo edit a conffile | 13:13 |
| seb128 | and screw their editing | 13:13 |
| Laney | somebody want to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1796275 ? | 13:48 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1796275 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screen reader is not auto-enabled on first login if enabled when installing" [Undecided,New] | 13:48 |
| seb128 | on a similar topic bug #1797861 | 13:48 |
| ubot5 | bug 1797861 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Screen reader doesn't read installer's GUI during a live session installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1797861 | 13:48 |
| Laney | yes I already looked at that one | 13:48 |
| seb128 | ah ok | 13:48 |
| Laney | similar in that it's about screen reader at least | 13:48 |
| Laney | but it's probably not the same bug | 13:48 |
| seb128 | right, I just saw it passing by in my morning review of "recent bugs" | 13:49 |
| Laney | okies | 13:49 |
| Laney | so, anyone? | 13:49 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ^ interested? if not I'm going to have a look | 13:49 |
| didrocks | seb128: I can, unsure though to have enough time before EOD | 13:50 |
| didrocks | so, don't expect a fix necessarily tonight | 13:50 |
| seb128 | I don't | 13:50 |
| seb128 | thx didrocks! | 13:50 |
| didrocks | yw ;) | 13:50 |
| Laney | merci | 13:51 |
| seb128 | Laney, how are things looking from a London/r-t perspective atm? | 13:51 |
| Laney | xnox is looking into http://launchpad.net/bugs/1795882 | 13:51 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1795882 in casper (Ubuntu) ""Remove media" message is not displayed after installation" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:51 |
| * didrocks update-iso first | 13:52 | |
| * Laney assigns to document that | 13:52 | |
| seb128 | ah, nice | 13:52 |
| seb128 | plymouth is not happy in cosmic | 13:52 |
| Laney | otherwise, going to upload ubiquity soon and then do some moar isos | 13:52 |
| Laney | why not? | 13:52 |
| seb128 | e.u.c top 1-3-5-6-8 from the weekly 18.10 view are plymouth reports | 13:54 |
| seb128 | well, look variants of the same issue | 13:54 |
| jibel | the main issue is bug 1794292 | 13:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1794292 in plymouth (Ubuntu Cosmic) "plymouthd crashed with SIGSEGV in /sbin/plymouthd:11 in ply_renderer_set_handler_for_input_source -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_renderer_input -> ply_keyboard_stop_watching_for_input -> ply_device_manager_deactivate_keyboards -> on_deactivate" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1794292 | 13:59 |
| Laney | finally go the f-ing thing to load | 14:00 |
| jibel | which had been marked fixed but is not. I just reopened it | 14:00 |
| * Laney spanks e.u.c | 14:00 | |
| Laney | is that the one cyphermox tried to fix? | 14:00 |
| jibel | yes | 14:00 |
| Laney | nod | 14:00 |
| cyphermox | there's still a lot of room for improvement in plymouth | 14:01 |
| Trevinho | I also had a look in that some weeks ago | 14:03 |
| Trevinho | and I had some further ideas, that I thought were handled by that change, but it seems not.. .I see if i can get something out of my stashes later | 14:04 |
| Trevinho | while in the gdm side of things.. | 14:04 |
| Trevinho | https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VzqX2JQw4D/ | 14:04 |
| Laney | NON ESISTENTE | 14:07 |
| cyphermox | I have a possible fix, if it's breaking for the reason I think it is | 14:28 |
| cyphermox | jibel: were you able to reproduce the crash? I can't | 14:31 |
| jibel | cyphermox, no I cannot anymore | 14:32 |
| cyphermox | so I fixed your crash, but not all of them? | 14:33 |
| jibel | I am not sure what fixed it actually | 14:35 |
| Trevinho | Laney: exactly... is it normal that we're at that point with no devices around, who should be in charge of waiting them? I wouldn't think is gdm job. is it? | 14:36 |
| didrocks | jbicha: are you looking at gdm3 which is stuck in proposed? | 14:37 |
| didrocks | (didn't look at it at all) | 14:37 |
| jbicha | didrocks: either we need to ignore the systemd autopkgtest or retry it until it works. I think it is more likely to pass when the amd64 autopkgtest builders aren't as busy | 14:38 |
| jbicha | gdm was stuck for a few days because we had to handle the s390x removal again | 14:39 |
| didrocks | jbicha: ok, seems like you are retrying/looking at it | 14:39 |
| jbicha | sort of. We're running low on time for it to get in the iso's though | 14:40 |
| didrocks | maybe check with the release team if they are happy discarding autopkgtest results? | 14:42 |
| jbicha | infinity: ^ do you want to force gdm3 in now? | 14:43 |
| infinity | jbicha: We're on it. | 14:44 |
| Laney | Trevinho: dunno | 14:58 |
| Laney | how come plymouth works? | 14:59 |
| Trevinho | using fb? | 15:03 |
| Laney | not the graphical splash no? | 15:13 |
| seb128 | jbicha, ricotz, did you see that the SRU team had a question on bug #1782122? | 15:37 |
| ubot5 | bug 1782122 in vala (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Update vala in bionic to 0.40.8" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1782122 | 15:37 |
| Trevinho | ffffffffffffffffff broke my kvm :( | 15:50 |
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| bob91 | Hi guys | 18:04 |
| bob91 | anyone knows how to speed up gnome-shell performance with nvidia driver on ubuntu 18 ? | 18:05 |
| oSoMoN | bob91, that's a very vague question, are you seeing specific performance issues that you think a driver update might solve? | 18:39 |
| oSoMoN | note that we have people actively working on gnome-shell performance in general | 18:40 |
| willcooke | gnight all. Laney I think I can come down tomorrow now, but probably not until just before lunch. | 18:56 |
| willcooke | Should see you tomorrow | 18:56 |
| oSoMoN | good evening all | 19:03 |
| Trevinho | Laney: world is strange indeed https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/PFdG0Rz4/CanGraphical.png | 20:15 |
| Trevinho | And in fact here, with that gdm proposed change, it doesn't run. Because `sd_seat_can_graphical' will always return false. | 20:17 |
| kyrofa | Hey kenvandine, Trevinho can you two think of a CLI hello-world-type example that I can use as a test that the new glib extension works? | 20:35 |
| kyrofa | g_print hello world works with or without the desktop-launch stuff, so that's not quite enough to exercise it | 20:36 |
| Trevinho | kyrofa: by new extension you mean? like new functions? | 20:41 |
| kyrofa | Trevinho, new version of the desktop helpers | 20:41 |
| Trevinho | kyrofa: mh not sure I got it... You want to check if new version of desktop-helpers is running? | 20:43 |
| Trevinho | or in general if those are running? | 20:43 |
| kyrofa | Trevinho, but basically, my question could be rephrased as "can you think of a hello-world type simple CLI application that verifies that the desktop-glib part works" ? | 20:43 |
| Trevinho | kyrofa: ok.... things like checking mime types could be a way | 20:43 |
| kyrofa | Ah, let me give that a try, thank you | 20:44 |
| Trevinho | so using gfile maybe? Or a simple gtk app? | 20:44 |
| Trevinho | well gtk app as cmd line I mean | 20:44 |
| Trevinho | like just passing --help :) | 20:44 |
| Laney | Trevinho: think you need the latest version of the branch | 22:11 |
| Laney | but I'm saying (many times :P) that I'm not convinced the CanGraphical thing is the right place to be looking | 22:11 |
| Laney | UNLESS the reason it goes to =no is the same reason that it's breaking sometimes | 22:11 |
| Laney | I think andyrock was next going to investigate what makes it change to 'no' | 22:12 |
| andyrock | yeah I'll do that tomorrow | 22:13 |
| Laney | ♥ | 22:14 |
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