[00:34] I'm trying to build my package in pbuilder, but I get a strange error that I don't understand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GFmSWBQ7BS/ [00:34] it says that it can't satisfy a dependency because it's a "virtual package" [00:35] does anyone know how I may resolve this? [00:40] :| whats the name of the libstdc++ 5 32b for a multilib system? [00:41] Is there a way to make MultiSystem utility really recognize you just deleted an ISO and so free up the relative space? It just keeps taking the same amount of MB, though the deleted ISO is no longer shown into the menu. [00:43] nvm can just use :i386 duh [00:45] ezzieyguywuf, my guess is you need to install some packages that provide those virtual packages (usually several different real packages may supply a virtual package, so apt can't figure out which one to install.) [00:53] Greetings channel. I am searching for where to find hardware list of smallest notebooks that have full hardware support. [00:54] Ideally looking for smaller 12 in or smaller [00:55] The general hardware compatibility list was okay but no option to sort by display size, so was not ideal [01:03] ... already gone. [01:03] Oh well. [01:05] https://www.dropbox.com/s/dqfunumodx1zo2v/SPCC-2.tar.gz?dl=0 [01:05] that is a c++ compiler that I made [01:07] extract and run sudo bash configure -k then sudo make -k then sudo make install -k [01:08] and that will replace your current gcc... if you want a bootstrapped compiler! [01:08] please don't, unless you can verify it's not malware. [01:08] tomreyn: wasn't planning on it. [01:09] tomreyn: besides, I find it highly unlikely someone can easily write a C++ compiler. [01:12] and it didn't belong here int he first place. [01:13] tomreyn: yea.. it just sets off red flags for someone to claim to have written a compiler for an extremely complicated language like C++. [01:13] especially a random person. [01:14] there's only a handful of C++ compilers for a reason... [01:17] I did a system update on my nas yesterday that messed something up. When I boot up I get an error and it just hangs there. I made a live cd and the boot/system drive (a usb drive) is fine, ran a test and repair. Then I even tried boot-repair from livecd, but I still get the same error on boot... https://imgur.com/a/Ehh84ox any ideas? [01:28] rappo: what is your NAS running? [01:40] tomaw, 16.04 server [01:45] oops, meant to tag tomreyn instead [02:06] When I get a "Report a problem" pop up, where does the bug report actually go to? Can I find all such bug reports in the Ubuntu bug tracker or something? [02:08] yes, you can find all the bugs on the tracker [02:08] Or where can I find a local copy of the error report? [02:10] k_sze[work]: usually the error reports (raw format) will be under /var/crash [02:11] hggdh: I see. Thanks. [02:12] hmm, https://errors.ubuntu.com/ doesn't seem to be searchable. [02:14] k_sze[work]: errors.ubuntu.com is a restricted tool. You need to be a registered users (which means you would need to be a dev, or a similar, at Ubuntu) [02:31] Hey, for LXD - What is 'Name of the new storage pool [default=default]'? [02:47] rfm: it's odd because locally (i.e. not in pbuilder) I can install the packages as-is === Darkvapour_ is now known as Darkvapour [03:05] good morning. I have a question about DNS resolving which is probably not ubuntu-specific, anyway: when I run ping nonexisting.name.com, my OS then tries nonexisting.name.com.mydomain.com ... which is sort of wrong, but also right in a way? Is that normal and intended? if I use dig or host commands, I get an empty response as it should be. [03:06] nonexisting.name.com.mydomain.com then returns a catchall answer which leads to confusing results. [03:08] you should figure out whats actually right and wrong first [03:11] RoscoePColtrane: so, I got "search mydomain.com" in my resolv.conf which is the reason this happens. Also, if I write ping nonexisting.name.com. <-- with the root dot in the end, it doesn't happen, obviously, because now it's clear that the name is complete. I just wonder how this is not a raging issue for everyone. and why I only notice this after 30 years of using computers. [03:11] you know, actually .. actually I just needed someone to talk to [03:11] * db breaks down crying [03:12] I will remove the search clause. I'm not sure since when I had it. but I think it's not necessary and leads to issues. [03:17] oh well of course I get it. I got a new router which pushes this setting via DHCP ... === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman [04:03] hello === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [04:19] how do I use "ip" on just one device? like I want to see bytes transmitted on /dev/wlp3s0 === Class7_ is now known as Class7 === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow [05:23] anyone know how to delete storage in lxc/d? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D6swVjWxgj/ [05:25] gbear14275: perhaps the #juju guys might know that === jje_ is now known as jje [05:27] I've encountered a very odd problem with my sound. pulseaudio seems to stop working after 5min. I can get it to work again by manually killing all pulseaudio processes and then doing sudo service pulseaudio start, but after 5min it stops working again [05:28] normally i can eventually fix w/e sound problem i'm having after awhile, but this time i'm stumped [05:28] i have no idea what to do [05:28] !sound | fiskenslakt start here [05:28] fiskenslakt start here: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [05:29] fiskenslakt: you might also open a tail -f /var/log/syslog while you investigating your issue, to see whats going on [05:29] Thanks i'll take a look at both [05:30] well i get this in syslog: [05:30] pulseaudio[19940]: [pulseaudio] protocol-native.c: Denied access to client with invalid authorization data. === Malsasa1 is now known as Malsasa [06:05] I really can't figure out this sound issue. I keep getting this error in syslog: [06:05] pulseaudio[3888]: [alsa-sink-ALC887-VD Analog] asyncq.c: q overrun, queuing locally [06:06] no matter what, everytime i completely kill pulseaudio and allow it to start again, after like 4min it will stop working [06:29] If I do `dpkg -l 'ibus*'`, I see an `ibus-googlepinyin` listed as uninstalled ("uu"), but it's not a real package, apt says it's purely virtual. [06:29] How can I find what's referring to it? [06:29] `apt search ibus-googlepinyin` yielded nothing. [06:36] k_sze[work]: https://askubuntu.com/questions/670169/how-can-i-find-ibus-googlepinyin [06:37] enzotib, worked for me from 16.04 machine https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9yZmnmxvpX/ [06:37] enzotib: I see. I guess I'll forget about it then. [06:38] enzotib: I can't even get fcitx to work properly (e.g. I can't get both English and French keyboard layouts working) [06:40] And the GNOME session freezes if I have selected fcitx as input method system, but accidentally press super+spacebar to switch ibus keyboards. [07:06] Good morning! When rebooting, my postfix service wont start. But I cant find out why. Nothing in syslog I could recognize which tells me why postfix status is down after reboot. Any suggestions or help to find out why? When starting manually without problems. [07:38] Hi all. linux and freenode newbie here. [07:38] Is there a way to get a masked hostname on freenode? :S [07:38] yes register nick and turn it on [07:39] Thanks. The real reason i came here is to ask if there is a decent IRC program to use on bionic beaver [07:39] When i try irssi or xchat i get the following: [07:39] gnupg : Breaks: software-properties-common (<= 0.96.24.3) but 0.96.20.7 is to be installed [07:49] hi everyone! I am having troubles using symlinks in Ubuntu 18.04 which I didn't encounter in 16.04 and earlier. I have a work-partition that is mounted as /opt/work and I usually symlink important parts of that from my home-dir. Sadly, some open-file dialogs do not seem to support reading from other partitions and/or my symlinks. I guess it's rather an issue of mount options than symlinking. any ideas or suggestions? [07:51] I also suspect that it's related to Snaps [07:52] why would it be snaps [07:53] Ben64: because it does not happen with all programs. I already found something helpful (the guy asking is having the same issues as I am): https://askubuntu.com/questions/964377/snap-application-doesnt-see-files-from-another-partition [07:54] BSC_: how you have configured and created the symlink from another partition to your home directory . can you post the command that you have used in your system [07:55] nisankhindia: I usually do "ln -s /opt/work/[name of dir] [another name of dir]" [07:55] fcitx is seriously bonkers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No76EdjNkXs [07:57] BSC_: if you have created the symlink into your USER Home directory like inside /home/$USER/ than it should be inside /home/ as they dont belong to user , example mkdir -p /home/var mv /var/lib /home/var/ ln -s /home/var/lib /var/lib [07:57] having had troubles with Snaps boils down to "how to get rid of snaps alltogether" for me :-/ [08:00] nisankhindia: I don't get your suggestion. It's not the symlinks which are not working. I can use them from the shell, many applications etc. It really boils down to snaps. And the reason as to why they behave differently are explained in the link to askubuntu (see above) [08:00] uhm why would you move /var/lib into /home? that doesn't make sense [08:01] geirha: look at the last line after move [08:03] nisankhindia: still doesn't make sense in the context of BSC_'s issue [08:04] geirha: it was miscommunication , so i have already shorted out that with the OP . thanks [08:10] Snaps really are a major pita... Does anyone know if it's safe (and suggested) to add plugs to the yaml file of an existing Snap? I am using one which does not seem to support "removable-media" [08:12] I am actually thinking of removing the snaps alltogether as they seem to be another case of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" [08:12] BSC_: for snap support we reccomend to contact the proper maintainer of the actual snap [08:16] BSC_: Snap support please visit : https://forum.snapcraft.io/ or read docs at https://docs.snapcraft.io/ [08:16] Hey I'm trying to use fingerprint-gui but when I add a fingerprint, it identifys my finger once but not twice [08:17] lotuspsychje: thanks, I'll think about that. But I also think that my issue is more of a general problem with snaps. I have already spent too many hours investigating the intricacies of Snap [08:17] BSC_: its the users choice, if you dont like snapd you can remove it from your system [08:18] lotuspsychje: now THAT sounds like a great suggestion :D [08:18] Hey I'm trying to use fingerprint-gui but when I add a fingerprint, it identifys my finger once but not twice https://imgur.com/a/bhkaO6t [08:19] BSC_: just keep in mind, some snaps come by default on your ubuntu install, removing snapd might have consequences [08:20] lotuspsychje: Yeah, chromium is one of them and there are others which I wouldn't want to gamble with. Snap seems to be a time-wasting monster in any way :-/ [08:20] BSC_: take a look at: snap list [08:20] shazer: provide your distribution details ( lsb_release -a or cat /etc/*release ) , hardware details ( lsusb ), check the dependencies installed or not .. and [08:21] BSC_: chromium is not instaleld by default, but there are current plans to maintain chromium on snap instead of the apt package [08:23] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y2xpT7vMWQ/ [08:26] lotuspsychje: I don't remember exactly, but I am quite certain that I installed chromium using apt-get or the Software Center. I still got a snap that way [08:27] on another note: what is a good markdown editor for Ubuntu? I just tried Typora when I ran into that issue with snaps and remote file systems [08:29] nisankhindia: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y2xpT7vMWQ/ [08:34] BSC_: i strongly prefer vs code for a markdown editor over anything else ive used. [08:42] I keep getting these kinds of errors when I try to apt-get install : [08:42] "gnupg : Breaks: software-properties-common (<= 0.96.24.3) but 0.96.20.7 is to be installed" [08:42] Does this mean that I need an older version of software-properties-common ? Is it because python-pip is not yet stable on bionicbeaver? [08:45] I've tried apt-get with -m and -f. Same error :S [08:50] desudesudesu: have you added external ppa's to your system? [08:50] desudesudesu: could you pastebin the output of this? apt-cache policy gnupg software-properties-common [08:52] lotuspsychje: Not that I recall. Not on this machine. [08:52] geirha: one moment for paste [08:52] https://pastebin.com/QHRP58SY [08:52] afk 5 minutes. Appreciate the response. [08:54] You have a 1.4.20 version of gnupg installed, which doesn't come from any of the currently added apt sources [08:55] that gnupg package version happens to be the latest of xenial [08:56] something's gone wrong after upgrading from 16.04 to 18.04 [08:57] what happens if you try to upgrade those two packages? sudo apt install gnupg software-properties-common [09:01] Ah thank you. It is now upgrading with sudo apt install gnupg software-properties-common [09:02] I may have effed something up when i did the dist upgrade. Will see what happens after apt is done with this [09:02] Many thanks. Still new to nix. Trying to get away from windows as much as possible. Your help and effort is sincerely appreciated <3 [09:18] How do I rollback to this btrfs snapshot : http://0x0.st/sEbd.txt (To last .snapshots/rootfs) [09:47] Hello ubuntu channel. I'm running 18.04.1 latest version on a X230 (Lenovo), and i have trouble getting my lid cover detected. When i cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID the status is always open. Anything i can do for it ? [09:47] It is working under other os. [09:50] I can't use ibus anthy input in wine if I run using sudo [09:50] anybody know how to fix that? [09:50] the exact command I'm using is: sudo -E ip netns exec alt4 sudo -u mark WINEPREFIX=~/.winejpalt4 LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 wine run.exe [09:51] whereas if I just run WINEPREFIX=~/.winejp LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8 wine run.exe it works fine [09:56] when i want to install HOPM on ubuntu, i've got an error Leaving directory [10:10] can i resize a partition the partition of the running OS? [10:10] usually yes [10:11] Zeljko, is HOPM a linux game ? [10:11] mgedmin: usually meaning? [10:11] at least you can enlarge a mounted ext4 partition with resize2fs; shrinking might not be supported [10:11] (according to the manual page) [10:11] ppf if that partition is the RUNNING one NO [10:12] the other difficulty is getting the kernel to reload the changed partition table, when you have some of the partitions mounted [10:12] I remember doing online resizing a few years back, but I've forgotten all the specifics ... [10:12] my setup of a 120g disk is {80g sda1 (/), 2g swap, void} [10:12] this is one of those situations where LVM makes things easier [10:13] so i swapoff, delete swap, recreate it at the end of the disk, and then resize2fs? [10:13] essentially [10:13] make backups etc. [10:13] ppf at your risk [10:14] it's a fun exercise if you're prepared for the worst, in case something goes wrong [10:14] and you might need a reboot after the partition table change where you move the swap to the end and resize the / partition [10:15] resizing filesystem and resizing partition are separate steps; when you're enlarging things, you resize the partition first and then run resize2fs to grow the filesystem to the new size [10:15] when you're shrinking things, you shrink the filesystem first (while it's unmounted), then shrink the partition [10:15] wait, resize2fs is for the filesystem only [10:16] and it's always scary because if you accidentally shrink too much and cut off the tail end of the filesystem, well, that's Not Good At All [10:16] I believe tools like parted can combine both steps into one command [10:16] gigirock: no and at my risk are vastly different answers :) [10:16] but I don't remember if parted supports online resizing [10:17] there should be tutorials on the net; I wouldn't trust my memory [10:17] but it's helpful to know that online resizing is a thing that's possible (under some circumstances) [10:18] apparently there's also growpart [10:18] that sounds helpful [10:19] ... I think that changes the partition table only, leaving you to resize the filesystem yourself afterwards [10:20] sure, but that's just resize2fs [10:20] yeah [10:21] 'just' meaning the manpage says it works for mounted partitions [10:42] Hi folks [10:44] I just installed a new NVidia 1050 ti gpu on a system running Ubuntu MATE 18.04, initially I installed the only other listed driver in the "additional drivers" app "jockey" I think and it seemed to have installed correctly. However upon rebooting I now have 1600x900 as the highest resolution available (not the previous 1920x1080). I thought perhaps I should use the driver from NVidias website, so I switched back [10:44] to the previous Nouveau driver and rebooted. Upon rebooting there was only one resolution available 1024x768. So I installed the driver from the website and reboot, I still have really poor resolution options and I am not sure I should trust this system. [10:51] Paddy_NI, which driver did you install from the website, the 390 or 396 ? [10:52] BluesKaj, Oh the 390.87 [10:53] hello [10:53] can you recommend a tool for converting heic to jpg? [10:53] a simple cli tool would be nice [10:54] Paddy_NI, that driver should be available to build from the repos if you have dkms installed...shouldn't have to use the website driver [10:54] BluesKaj, Yeah I tried the driver listed in "additional drivers" [10:55] BluesKaj, It does not run at the correct resolution [10:55] I'm not really familiar with mate DE, but make sure dkms is insatalled [10:56] installed rather [10:57] Okay, it's rather odd that the additional drivers dialog does not handle this [10:57] I would also have though that dkms would be installed OOTB [10:58] brb, going to try this [10:59] additional drivers is an older app that i haven't seen in the latest releases [10:59] guess mate is kind of traditional [11:30] BluesKaj, I [11:30] BluesKaj, I think MATE uses Jockey whereas Ubuntu uses a fork of Jockey which is integrated into software center [11:33] Paddy_NI, ok [11:33] my ubuntu 18 has gcc but no g++, are they both seperate packages ?? [11:33] yep [11:36] so Installing gcc does not gurantee g++ ?? [11:45] no [11:45] separate languages, separate packages [11:45] you don't get gfortran either [11:45] Although, g++ will depend on gcc, if talking about the standard repo packages [11:56] BluesKaj, Hey I don't mean to take too much of your time, would it be okay if you give this a literal once over? https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/528263/linux/incorrect-monitor-resolution-after-installation-of-nvidia-current-package-via-synaptic-running-linux/ [11:56] BluesKaj, The post by "Tumbar" seems thorough enough [11:56] I am not sure how this is going to work long term with my not so savvy client [12:04] Paddy_NI, what does, sudo ubuntu-drivers list, show in the terminal ? [12:08] or lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes, to see which driver is in use [12:23] BluesKaj, Cool will, do. I must get ssh going on this other PC as it's downstairs [12:23] Thanks for your time mate [12:24] Paddy_NI, np [12:42] BluesKaj, output of "ubuntu-drivers list" nvidia-driver-390 [12:42] BluesKaj, Kernel driver in use: nvidia [12:42] I am guessing I need to create a newmode [12:44] Paddy_NI: are you using nvidia-settings to see available resolutions? [12:44] hateball, The highest listed is 1600x900 [12:45] I found this script on the Ubuntu forums https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mjnc5c7QYY/ [12:45] Paddy_NI: check what the monitor is reporting to the GPU via EDID - those modes come from that [12:45] I wonder if I was to swap out "1600x900" with "1920x1080" if that would do the trick [12:46] TJ-, Well using the opensource driver I get 1920x1080 and the display normally works flawlessly with just about any other chipset so I am certain its a problem with the driver [12:47] For instance it is not even using 1600x900 by default with the Nvidia driver, its using 960x540 [12:47] TJ-, How would I check that information anyway? [12:49] Paddy_NI: it'll be in the Xorg.0.log, usually at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, or more lately, in a per-user directory I believe [12:56] sudo apt-get install read-edid && sudo get-edid | parse-edid [12:59] Thanks OerHeks, this is the output from "get-edid" https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tnfXWgG7Y2/ [12:59] Hello, I need help with my computer graphics being slow. I'm using a laptop with intelhd520 and watching youtube 1080p is impossible [13:00] it's a fresh install of ubuntu [13:00] Paddy_NI: looks like the monitor's EDID is broken, according to the "checksum failed" message [13:01] TJ-, Oh so this issue may not happen on a different display [13:03] TJ-, It's funny how the 1050 TI with the Open Source driver does guess correctly yet the proprietary does not. Also the onboard graphics guess correctly and the previously installed R9 280x guesses correctly [13:03] This is actually the first time I have had this issue [13:03] any ideas would be appreciated. everything was fine before restarting my computer:( [13:07] Paddy_NI: when the EDID doesn't provide specific 'modelines' the driver tries to figure out the best choice from the Horizontal and Vertical frequencies, and, I think, the aspect ratio of the reported physical screen dimensions [13:33] could anyone please help me with my graphics problem? [13:34] i've been using linux for a couple weeks and been unable to fix this myself [13:34] just read back, bonno , sounds like this SNA and tearfree issue https://askubuntu.com/questions/752743/ubuntu-16-04-skylake-6th-generation-screen-flickering [13:35] sudo gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf ( this is an empty page) and copy that info [13:36] *if* it does not work, see next post to use UXA instead of SNA [13:39] sorry, what info. i did leave the channel for a while and irssi (irc client i am using) does not store history (not sure if other irc clients do) [13:40] ah found it in the link [13:41] and restart afterwards? @OerHeks [13:42] bonno: that would be a good idea [13:48] hey, that helped, but it reset my monitors positions. after i set them up the way i need to (one monitor is clockwise), the lags appeared again [13:50] OerHeks: should i now try accelmethod uxa or do you have any other ideas? [13:53] bonno: so rotation (transformation) is the problem then [13:54] likely. any ideas on how to fix that? [13:54] bonno: presumably that can't be done in the GPU hardware so it is done by (CPU) software, which incurs the performance penalty [13:55] does that mean there's no way out of this but to use landscape mode? [13:55] rotated monitors are made of sadness and tears [13:56] well, that's inspiring haha [13:56] *cough* different subpixel ordering *cough* [13:56] Does Ubuntu have per-monitor font smoothing yet? [13:57] that is one thing I appreciate about W10 - the nice per-display DPI and font settings so I can rotate without squinty eyes [13:57] and the aqueducts [13:57] my gut feeling is "probably not" [13:58] rory: no, and I speak as someone that operates 6-monitor systems :) [13:58] it might be technically possible, in wayland, but I think it need special support from the toolkit (to use not just different scaling modes, but also different fontconfig contexts for different outputs), and I haven't heard about anyone doing the work to support that [13:58] It's not a huge deal it just makes some fonts look indescribably weird [13:58] rory: having all monitors identical is the bets way to go :) [13:58] just look how long it took to get color emoji support ... [13:58] yeah but then I miss out on 1200x1920 goodness [13:59] welp, guess that will be the way to go [13:59] when you get a document up on that baby, you are REALY looking at that document [13:59] reading my code in portrait mode was fun but i guess you can't have everything [13:59] anyway I've turned off subpixel rendering and I'm trying to get used to pure grayscale antialiasing, so that I could use rotated monitors maybe at some time in the future maybe [13:59] rory: well, that is relative. my 6 monitor configs use 1920x1200 and that's fine, but connect one of those combined with a hiDPI display and it looks coarse :) [14:00] thanks a bunch, imma go live my life now [14:00] ta-tah [14:00] I generally keep the rotated monitors in the same X screen, so maybe that helps too, I don't mix orientations in the same X screen [14:01] Hello. When using Enhanced Zoom with compiz, is there a way to have it use a single zoom pane across multiple display rather than a separate pane on each? [14:03] i just installed the package "imagemagick" [14:03] but i cant find its binary [14:03] can you run it? [14:03] imagemagick and magick do not exist [14:03] as commands [14:04] "imagemagick is already the newest version (8:6.9.7.4+dfsg-16ubuntu6.4)" [14:05] magick .jpg .png >> https://legacy.imagemagick.org/script/magick.php [14:05] hollusion: imagemagick shipts a lot of binaries with names like 'convert' and 'display' and 'mogrify' [14:05] dpkg -L imagemagick will show you all the files owned by that package [14:05] hollusion: the command is named convert [14:05] imagemagick doesn't provide a command called the same, it provides "convert" among others [14:05] or the whole list https://legacy.imagemagick.org/script/command-line-tools.php [14:06] thank you [14:06] except it's an empty packge; the binaries are actually shipped by a dependency -- dpkg -L imagemagick-6.q16 on ubuntu 18.04 lts [14:07] was hoping it would be able to convert heic to jpg but it does not seem like it [14:07] and augh everything's obscured by the alternatives system [14:07] http://dpaste.com/0Y9H90C [14:07] /usr/bin/convert is a symlink to /etc/alternatives/convert is a symlink to /usr/bin/convert-im6.q16 [14:07] there's probably a manual page that lists all the commands [14:09] whole post about HEIC, one better exports from apple as jpg than convert https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45460611/convert-heif-heic-to-jpeg-on-a-server [14:09] hollusion, ' ls -half ~/Downloads/BFGC/IMG_30451.HEIC ' [14:11] JimBuntu, http://dpaste.com/0C3G4HP [14:11] had a typo in the filename [14:11] but it seems the ubuntu imagemagick package does not know HEIC format [14:11] Ah, ok. I wanted to make sure that wasn't going to also be an issue. Thanks. === enzotib_ is now known as enzotib [14:56] I'm working on packaging a project and uploading to ppa. I've made a slight tweak to my upstream (changed the minimum cmake version) that did not result in a new release version. I've downloaded the slightly modified tarball and re-packaged, whenever I try to dput my new package into ppa it complains that my orig.tar.bz does not match [14:56] is there a way to explicitly tell dbuild "hey, my orig.tar.bz is the same filename but the file itself is different" or do I have to actually bump the version on my upstream in order to make this work? [14:57] ezzieyguywuf: you would generally bump the version number since it's not the same [15:04] ezzieyguywuf: just needs a "dch -i" or do it manually [15:07] I'm installing 18.04 Ubuntu( normal installation) and I can see my 3TB drive fine but the 14.6TB Raid I have setup is only being seen as 2TB. Any idea why? [15:09] TJ-: tgm4883: so change the version number on the package? that I don't mind doing [15:09] i am not sure but maybe the patitionning, gpt or msdos have you partitioned ? [15:10] Yeah just as a test I installed windows 10 pro and it read and worked with the drive with no issue [15:10] No special drivers or anything [15:10] Malgorath: seen as 2TB by what? [15:10] fdisk [15:10] that did it! thanks you two. [15:11] Malgorath: well that would be expected. try "gdisk" === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman [15:11] drat, actually launchpad complains now [15:11] Malgorath: fdisk has advanced a bit but is still stuck in the MBR heritage of max 32-bit offsets and so forth [15:11] fdisk -l is the command and it sees both 8TB drives as sda/sdb and on install fdisk say the sdd(14.5tb) raid but no on reboot I don't see the drive, so I'm thinking its probably a driver issues. but I'm not really up on raid stuff and not sure what drivers if any I would need [15:12] is it possible to change the orig.tar.bz in launchpad without changing the filename? [15:12] Malgorath: is it hardware RAID? [15:12] TJ-, yes [15:12] I have a z620 HP workstation [15:13] Malgorath: true hardware raid, or fakeRAID? you said sda/sdb are 8TB which inferred they are the underlying disks of the 14.5TB sdd [15:14] TJ- its a true hardware raid, lshw | grep -i raid => product: C600/X79 series chipset SATA RAID Controller [15:14] Malgorath: are you on it now? can you show us "pastebinit <( lsblk )" === xul is now known as Guest50153 [15:15] let install pastebinit, I just installed 18.04 on the 3tb drive [15:16] TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p73ZqRTGj6/ [15:17] Malgorath: OK, that is FakeRAID - e.g. the firmware/BIOS can configure it, but the OS needs a driver [15:17] lsblk ftw [15:17] Malgorath: in real hardware RAID all you wouls see is the logical RAID device, not the underlying disks [15:17] TJ- ah this thing says it has onboard raid controller with 6 ports... [15:18] Malgorath: right, but it isn't a hardware RAID, it's a lie. It is fakeRAID [15:18] Malgorath: see e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [15:19] Thanks TJ [15:20] Malgorath: that wiki is just FYI read the first paragraphs. Ignore the technical stuff and commands, we'll help you sort that part out (that article is quite out-of-date ) [15:20] TJ-, i was about to ask but yes I see what you mean [15:22] Malgorath: now you need to install dmraid package. "sudo apt install dmraid" [15:22] !info dmraid [15:22] dmraid (source: dmraid): Device-Mapper Software RAID support tool. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.0.rc16-8ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 22 kB, installed size 91 kB [15:22] TJ-, says its already installed [15:23] Malgorath: that's good, in which case we can investigate what it sees [15:24] Malgorath: try "sudo dmraid -ay" [15:24] * mgedmin should research dmraid vs mdadm someday [15:25] TJ-, RAID set "isw_ecehhcgibh_Volume0" already active [15:26] Malgorath: OK, so you should be able to access it as /dev/mapper/isw_ecehhcgibh_Volume0 [15:26] Correct but that is being read as 1.8T [15:27] I already did a clonezilla of the Raid so if I have to rebuild the array I'm okay with that tbh [15:28] Malgorath: what is reporting the 1.8T size ? [15:28] it was in the lsblk you had me pastebin [15:29] Malgorath: no matter I see it! Right, so all that means is the entire RAID size isn't used, only 1.8T as Volume0 [15:29] oh wait [15:29] if i do gdisk I see 13.8TB [15:29] on partition 4 [15:30] Malgorath: the 'lsblk' output suggests you've got 2 x 7.3TB disk, in RAID-1 mirror [15:30] That is correct [15:30] and not mirrored [15:30] Raid 0 [15:31] Malgorath: Mirrored [15:31] Look at the major:minor device numbers in the lsblk output, they're identical for sda and sdb [15:31] might be a striped configuration [15:31] I'd hope so I bought 2 HDDs the exact same [15:31] its Striped in BIOS [15:32] hmmm, lets look at the actual device nodes: "pasteinbint <( ls -l /dev/block/ )" [15:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C78Q8TbzKZ/ [15:33] OK, I'm getting confused, don't mind me! [15:34] right, what we see is only 1.8T allocated according to dmraid, of the total [15:35] Malgorath: is that what you were expecting? [15:35] So on install it read the wrong setup for the raid? [15:35] No [15:35] As with windows I have 14.8 TB of storage and I'd rather have it setup in linux for that space [15:37] Malgorath: show us "pastebinit <( sudo dmraid -s -s isw_ecehhcgibh_Volume0 )" [15:38] Malgorath: my point is, there may be 14.8TB /but/ only 1.8TB is allocated according to dmraid, via lsblk. If you know that the entire 14.8TB is allocated to file systems then there is a problem [15:39] TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/52QY23YRWN/ [15:39] TJ-, I have the 14.8TB setup with windows 10 on it just to see if it would work [15:40] So it has a working partition, I wouldn't imagine it not reading a simple windows partition [15:40] Malgorath: now lets try "pastebinit <( sudo dmraid -s -s isw_ecehhcgibh )" [15:41] Malgorath: is the host running a 64-bit amd64 Ubuntu ? [15:41] yes [15:41] ERROR: either the required RAID set not found or more options required no raid sets and with names: "isw_ecehhcgibh" [15:41] when i ran that [15:41] OK, that's fine [15:42] I was trying to ensure we weren't looking too deep into the set [15:43] so now lets try the superset itself: "pastebinit <( sudo dmraid -s isw_ecehhcgibh )" [15:43] Same error [15:44] Malgorath: In Windows does Disk Management show the entire 14.8TB under a single device ? [15:44] yes [15:45] Malgorath: I suspect the Intel SoftWare (ISW) fakeraid metadata on that system is not fully understood by dmraid. What Ubuntu release are you using? [15:46] 18.04 [15:47] right, and redhat basically abandoned dmraid in 2010 so it is likely out of date. [15:48] So I think for safety you need to a) remove dmraid so you can't accidentally destroy the raid set and b) investigate if mdadm's support for ISW is any better! [15:50] Hey all. Is there any way to debug a preseed unattended install to ensure that the preseed/file is being loaded correctly? [15:51] Malgorath: try this: "sudo mdadm --query /dev/sda" and pastebin the results [15:52] TJ-, should I apt purge dmraid? [15:54] TJ-, /dev/sda: is not an md array /dev/sda: device -1 in 0 device inactive container array. Use mdadm --examine for more detail. === T4P4N_ is now known as T4P4N [15:57] brb [16:01] Malgorath: try "sudo mdadm --examine /dev/sda" - we're trying to ascertain if mdadm can handle that kind of fakeRAID metadata === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [16:05] back [16:06] TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XNQFdFjs4Z/ [16:14] Malgorath: looks like bad news then, intel haven't contributed the newer metadata handling to either of the linux RAID management tools. I can't find anything more recent about ISW either [16:16] So its a no go with raid? Weird cause the clonezilla saw all 15TB and let me do a back up of it [16:18] Malgorath: in which case maybe we just need something extra. I'm trying to find some examples of using mdadm with recent ISW metadata via the mdadm mailing list but not seen anything so far [16:20] okay [16:24] Malgorath: can you show us "pastebinit <( sudo mdadm --detail-platform )" - this reports on what the disk controller hardware supports according to the kernel [16:25] ISW is also known as Intel Matrix Storage Manager (IMSM) [16:25] TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2ZTkh669hh/ [16:26] I've got some old Promise controllers that are utilised by dmraid, but got no intel MSM set up here [16:27] hey guys [16:28] Malgorath: that looks good, array disks are on ports 0 and 1 [16:28] is there a tool in lxde or other desktops to display avaible usb ports ? [16:28] Malgorath: so now we re-visit why mdadm doesn't seem to recognise the metadata [16:30] TJ-, Will I see an increase in speed since this is SW or is this just basically just so I have 1 big drive? [16:31] Malgorath: increase in speed? I'm not sure what you mean? [16:32] The reason for the raid is to have increased drive speed(2 drives should be faster then one) [16:32] Ahhh, well RAID-0 stripes should in theory help since reads/writes can go to 2 drives simultaneously [16:33] Thats what I was hoping for, if this isn't going to do that I'll just break the raid and setup the drives as 2 8TB drives [16:33] In terms of any software overhead there is very little. The metadata on-disk that dmraid/mdadm read is used to configure the device-mapper core, so it knows how to translate a write to logical sector X of a RAID device to the correct sector of the underlying device. [16:35] Malgorath: what I'm puzzled by is why "mdadm --query /dev/sda" didn't find any metadata, since it should have, as we know from dmraid it is there and usuable (although dmraid handles it incorrectly) [16:38]