| === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer | ||
| cpaelzer | good morning | 04:40 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 06:03 |
| cpaelzer | hiho lordievader | 06:20 |
| lordievader | Morning cpaelzer | 06:20 |
| lordievader | How are you doing? | 06:20 |
| cpaelzer | good, and you? | 06:21 |
| lordievader | Doing good here :) | 06:21 |
| cpaelzer | glad to hear that | 06:21 |
| Gargoyle | Hey there. If I manually remove a package with "apt remove some-package" does this prevent it from being installed again automatically in the future? (I now see it listed in dpkg --get-selections with "deinstall") | 07:40 |
| Gargoyle | I'm trying to recreate a scenario where php7.2 seems to have been, allegedly, automatically upgraded to 7.3RC. | 07:41 |
| DenBeiren | for some reason one of my machines is in read only filesystem. | 08:20 |
| DenBeiren | I guess there should be a forcefsck run on reboot | 08:20 |
| DenBeiren | is there a way to make it reboot and check? | 08:20 |
| hateball | DenBeiren: differs a bit depending on your version | 08:22 |
| DenBeiren | latest,.. 18.04.1 | 08:22 |
| hateball | DenBeiren: you'd need to change kernel parameters to force | 08:23 |
| hateball | that said, systemd should notice it has failed and run an fsck itself | 08:24 |
| hateball | DenBeiren: are all partitions mounted ro ? | 08:25 |
| hateball | DenBeiren: basically these are your options https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-fsck@.service.html | 08:26 |
| DenBeiren | the problem is that i have no options editing or creating any files | 08:37 |
| DenBeiren | since i am stuck in read only mode | 08:37 |
| cpaelzer_ | DenBeiren: those are kernel commandline options consumed by systemd | 08:43 |
| cpaelzer_ | DenBeiren: you can set them from grub or whatever your bootloader is | 08:43 |
| cpaelzer_ | disk being readonly isn't preventing you to do that | 08:43 |
| DenBeiren | i'm afraid i don't understand what i should do,.. never had/did this before :s | 08:50 |
| hateball | DenBeiren: do you have physical access to the server? | 08:50 |
| hateball | by physical I mean can you interupt the boot process and get into grub | 08:50 |
| DenBeiren | no, not now,.. alls is done trough ssh | 08:50 |
| hateball | DenBeiren: is your /boot partition also mounted ro ? | 08:53 |
| DenBeiren | https://pastebin.com/biu1d2cM | 08:56 |
| DenBeiren | https://pastebin.com/yFKNs7sX | 08:59 |
| hateball | DenBeiren: run "mount |grep sda" | 09:01 |
| hateball | that should how /boot is currently mounted. if you can mount it rw, you can edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually to force fsck next reboot | 09:02 |
| === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer | ||
| DenBeiren | /boot/grub/grub.cfg is empty,... is that ok? | 09:51 |
| DenBeiren | oops | 09:51 |
| DenBeiren | i was wrong | 09:51 |
| DenBeiren | how should i edit grub? where and what? | 09:53 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: looking at the context of the convo above, it appears you should edit that grub.cfg with any text editor and add fsck.mode=force to the vmlinuz kernel command line | 09:54 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: in the first "menuentry 'Ubuntu' ....." section, there's "linux" line above "initrd", at the bottom of the { } group. The "linux" line is the kernel command line. | 09:56 |
| blackflow | Add that fsck.mode=force at the end of that line, save the file, umount /boot and reboot | 09:56 |
| DenBeiren | here goes nothing ;-) | 09:57 |
| DenBeiren | in beaver we trust :-) | 09:58 |
| hateball | famous last words, it would seem | 10:11 |
| Gargoyle | I didn't think you were supposed to edit grub.cfg manually anymore? | 10:37 |
| blackflow | Gargoyle: you aren't. the user couldn't get to root and had the option to mount /boot separately for that one tiem fix and boot regularly. | 10:55 |
| blackflow | (being a remote server with no accses to grub menu itself) | 10:55 |
| DenBeiren | not last words hateball :-) | 11:45 |
| DenBeiren | it rebooted but i can't say for sure if it did the check | 11:45 |
| DenBeiren | my errors aren't gone in any case | 11:45 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: but did you manage to boot regularly? | 11:48 |
| DenBeiren | it rebooted and came back up,.. | 11:49 |
| DenBeiren | i'm not there with the machine to check the monitor | 11:49 |
| blackflow | what errors then? | 11:49 |
| DenBeiren | for example when i want to edit a file, sudo nano /etc/"tabkey" it gives me the following | 11:50 |
| DenBeiren | https://pastebin.com/jeSQMWLN | 11:51 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: pastebin mount | grep tmp please? | 11:53 |
| Ussat | \o/ Xwiki server upgraded from 16.x --> 18.x | 11:53 |
| DenBeiren | https://pastebin.com/CaEiW5yY | 11:54 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: and what about just `mount`, no grep? | 11:55 |
| DenBeiren | https://pastebin.com/Am0f9gLd | 11:56 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: try mount -o -remount,rw / | 11:56 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: also please pastebin your /etc/fstab | 11:57 |
| Gargoyle | Do you have any kind of message in dmesg suggesting why / is being mounted ro? | 11:58 |
| DenBeiren | https://pastebin.com/CahVM1Bx | 12:01 |
| blackflow | "floppy:" !!! | 12:03 |
| Gargoyle | ext2 !!! | 12:04 |
| Gargoyle | How old is this machine? | 12:04 |
| Gargoyle | Looks like it's a VM too. Do you control the hypervisor? | 12:05 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: can you pastebin fstab? Looks like something is not remounting root rw after root pivot. | 12:05 |
| Ussat | ext2...wow | 12:06 |
| hateball | it's not *that* long ago since ext2 was default on /boot if you installed with LVM :p | 12:08 |
| blackflow | Looks like Bionic according to uname | 12:09 |
| DenBeiren | https://pastebin.com/PqSxrNLL | 12:10 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: typo on line 7? looks like no root mount in fstab, and that initial ro is never remounted | 12:12 |
| Gargoyle | is line 7 a copy and paste error? | 12:12 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: hit enter after <pass> on line 7 | 12:13 |
| blackflow | also............ floppy? really? | 12:13 |
| hateball | dont copy that floppy | 12:13 |
| DenBeiren | hey, it's standard :-) | 12:20 |
| DenBeiren | i guess | 12:20 |
| blackflow | what! | 12:20 |
| DenBeiren | i can't edit the file,.. | 12:20 |
| blackflow | DenBeiren: did you run that remount? | 12:20 |
| blackflow | of course you didn't. you users never read the support advice you ask for. mount -o remount,rw / and then you can edit stuff freely. edit fstab, fix line 7 and reboot for test. you're welcome. | 12:21 |
| DenBeiren | blackflow: of course i did,.. but the level of knowledge with us n00bs is never as high as you guys might expect ;-) | 12:22 |
| blackflow | you can always ask if something is not clear. that's what support is for ;) | 12:24 |
| Gargoyle | DenBeiren: Show us the remount command and the output. | 12:25 |
| DenBeiren | i was able to edit, found the typo and waiting to login after reboot atm | 12:25 |
| Gargoyle | ah. ok | 12:25 |
| DenBeiren | yep! seems like that did the trick guys and gals,.. | 12:26 |
| DenBeiren | thx a lot for the help! | 12:30 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: hi, I have an sru question | 13:12 |
| ahasenack | I'm working on a fix for a bug, and it has been fixed in bionic+ already | 13:12 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: the fix I intend to apply to trusty and xenial is from upstream and is simpler | 13:12 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: but different from what is applied to bionic+ | 13:12 |
| rbasak | I think that's fine | 13:13 |
| rbasak | As long as there isn't expected to be a user visible functional regression on upgrade | 13:13 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: the bionic one comes from debian, so changing that to the upstream one (better and simpler) adds to delta, | 13:13 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: and the debian fix relies on a config change, so backing that out now would mean another config change | 13:13 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: so I think leaving bionic alone is best at this time | 13:14 |
| rbasak | That sounds right to me | 13:14 |
| rbasak | Probably good to explain in the SRU description what you just said though. | 13:14 |
| ahasenack | agreed | 13:14 |
| v0lksman | hey all! trying to figure out how to remove all packages installed from a particular source | 13:27 |
| v0lksman | running `grep Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/archive_name_*_Package but it's listing packages that aren't currently installed | 13:28 |
| rbasak | v0lksman: use dpkg-query to get a list of installed packages. Then xargs over "dpkg -s" or similar to look for Source:. grep-dctrl might be useful. If there is no Source: header, the source package name is the same as the binary package name. | 13:42 |
| sdeziel | v0lksman: less elegant an possibly showing some false positives but I usually use that: for p in $(dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ {print $2}'); do apt-cache policy "$p" | grep -qF "ppa.launchpad.net/foo" && echo "$p"; done | 13:49 |
| Ussat | ubuntu 12.......srsly.....he is running 12 | 13:54 |
| * Ussat cries | 13:54 | |
| v0lksman | thanks guys...looking at options. | 13:56 |
| v0lksman | Ussat: hope that wasn't directed at me | 13:56 |
| Ussat | no, it was not | 13:56 |
| sdeziel | 12.04 is still supported via ESM so there is still a chance was not left there rotting | 13:59 |
| ahasenack | cpaelzer: I think I can add dep8 tests to that backuppc package | 15:00 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: in terms of an sru, adding a dep8 that doesn't exist in the development release, is that a no-no? | 15:00 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: scenario is bionic+ has the fix, but no dep8, and I'm adding the fix *and* a dep8 test for it to trusty and xenial | 15:00 |
| ahasenack | it's just the dep8 fix that isn't in the distros I'm not touching | 15:01 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: I think an upload to Cosmic (or Cosmic+1 as needed) to add the dep8 would be appreciated. | 15:04 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: sure, but would it block the sru? | 15:04 |
| rbasak | I wouldn't block an SRU just because Cosmic is frozen and therefore you can't add the dep8 righ tnow. | 15:04 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: I'm thinking weeks until that could happen | 15:04 |
| ahasenack | ok | 15:04 |
| ahasenack | that would be my intention, sorry for not making it clear. I would definitely add the dep8 test to c+1 when it opens | 15:04 |
| rbasak | Perhaps you could leave the upload for cosmic+1 ready somewhere and link to it in the bug, and explain that you can't do it now due to freeze? | 15:05 |
| ahasenack | sure | 15:06 |
| ahasenack | what about the releases in the middle? | 15:06 |
| rbasak | But yeah if you agree to put it in later, it doesn't make sense to me to block the SRU. | 15:06 |
| ahasenack | bionic and cosmic itself | 15:06 |
| rbasak | What is it, tough SRU question day today? :) | 15:06 |
| ahasenack | I've done an sru in the past which was about fixing an *existing* dep8 test, but not one to add one | 15:06 |
| ahasenack | sure :) | 15:06 |
| rbasak | I won't make you do the releases in the middle given that you've said the issue doesn't affect them. | 15:06 |
| ahasenack | ok, as I thought :) | 15:07 |
| ahasenack | I'll still see how tough adding the dep8 test will be, but from what I've seen just by writing the testing instructions, all that can be scripted easily | 15:08 |
| * rbasak tries to be pragmatic about these things; if the underlying reasons for a policy look like a bad trade-off, let's skip the policy :) | 15:08 | |
| rbasak | (in a specific case for specific reasons only, of course; otherwise the policy should be questioned/changed first) | 15:08 |
| teward | rbasak: i saw your reply, and sarnold's on that bug. It's a bit late in the Cosmic cycle to add that, so it'll get added in Dd-series | 15:18 |
| teward | (nginx --with-compat) | 15:18 |
| sam_w | rbasak: we're having some preseed issues with 14.04, install completes fine but apt is left in a funky state due to shim: https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/2uSLUZYU/ manually upgrading dpkg to 1.17.5ubuntu5.8 over 1.17.5ubuntu5 works... is this something we'll just have to add as a postinstall task or something or is there a better fix? | 15:20 |
| rbasak | sam_w: not sure why you're asking me? | 15:27 |
| rbasak | sam_w: that's interesting though. You do need the newer dpkg from trusty-updates first it seems if you want to install other things from trusty-updates. I'm not sure what mechanism exists (if any) to make sure that dpkg is updated before attempting to install shim. | 15:27 |
| rbasak | sam_w: is the newer dpkg available in the same apt repository? IOW are you using a custom hacked mirror or something, or the official upstream repositories there? | 15:28 |
| teward | rbasak: wasn't that a known upgrade-blocker a long time ago in the 14.04 -> 16.04 blocker there? | 15:28 |
| teward | i coulda sworn we had some kind of upgrade-blocking evil like that at that cycle | 15:28 |
| rbasak | I don't remember, but it would affect release upgrades too I think. | 15:28 |
| sam_w | rbasak: I think kierank was talking to you about it the other day? Apologies if not! | 15:29 |
| rbasak | sam_w: I remember a conversation about preseeding and hacking an apt repository but not about shim! | 15:34 |
| rbasak | sam_w: conclusion in #ubuntu-devel is that it's a bug. Please could you file one against shim, and tag it "regression-update"? | 15:34 |
| sam_w | rbasak: no hacked mirror, it's just in trusty-updates | 15:34 |
| sam_w | rbasak: sure | 15:35 |
| rbasak | Yeah I'm told it should declare a Pre-Depends, and doesn't, for some complicated reasons due to how it got there. | 15:35 |
| === jelly-home is now known as jelly | ||
| ahasenack | hm, with bileto, do I need one ticket per ubuntu release? | 18:36 |
| ahasenack | looks like yes | 18:36 |
| ahasenack | even though a ppa can hold packages for multiple releases | 18:36 |
| RoyK | !bileto | 18:44 |
| ahasenack | RoyK: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bileto | 18:48 |
| ahasenack | and bileto.ubuntu.com | 18:48 |
| xnox | ahasenack, it's the best recommended practice, yes. one ticket per ubuntu release. | 19:25 |
| xnox | multi-release publish is hard | 19:26 |
| ahasenack | I don't use it for publishing, just running dep8 tests in all arches and also the dependent tests | 19:38 |
| RoyK | xnox: it should be easy if a ticket could be marked with all relevant releases | 19:38 |
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