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[08:02] <kbroulik> hi, I tried to file a bug report against thunderbird on launchpad but whenever I submit it gives me a "timeout error" so I lost an elaborate bug report twice to it..
[08:02] <kbroulik> is this a known service downtime or what's going on?
[08:09] <cjwatson> Do you get an OOPS ID?
[08:10] <cjwatson> There's no expected downtime at the moment.
[08:12] <kbroulik> sec, trying to reproduce
[08:13] <kbroulik> of course now it works u_u
[08:13] <kbroulik> thanks anyway
[08:13] <wgrant> (also, you can always refresh the error page or use the back button to get your text back. it's not lost.)
[08:14] <kbroulik> I did but that didn't work. I went back and was greeted by the "enter a summary" page
[08:15] <wgrant> If you hit next there it should show the description field with your text
[08:15] <kbroulik> I see. That's not very obvious, though, especially since the summary didn't remember my text either
[08:15] <kbroulik> anyway, bug is filed
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[15:32] <teward> from #ubuntu: [2018-10-17 11:21:53] <Aleric> debug1: Skipping ssh-dss key /home/carlo/.ssh/lauchpad_carlo_dsa - not in PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes
[15:32] <teward> have we confirmed that DSA keys still work for connections to Launchpad for bzr and such?
[15:33] <cjwatson> PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes is a client-side thing
[15:33] <teward> o.O
[15:33] <cjwatson> See https://www.openssh.com/legacy.html
[15:33] <teward> cjwatson: i wonder if the defaults changed in OpenSSH
[15:33] <teward> *goes to bug -hardened
[15:34] <cjwatson> Yes, and they were documented as changing
[15:34] <cjwatson> Do not bug -hardened
[15:34] <teward> cjwatson: ah, OK.
[15:34] <teward> cjwatson: then why accept DSA still if it's no longer the 'default'?
[15:34] <teward> s/the default/sane/
[15:34] <cjwatson> It can still be sent even by modern clients with configuration tweaks (see the URL above)
[15:35] <teward> urgh i hate legacy >.<  :p
[15:35] <cjwatson> Deliberately breaking them could be discussed but would have to be quite widely announced and prepared for
[15:36] <teward> cjwatson: any chance on the documentation we can make a blurb about DSA keys only being supported for legacy reasons and should not be used (in favor of RSA or ECDSA)?
[15:36] <teward> i know we recently added the supported key types to the LP help docs
[15:36] <cjwatson> No, I'd rather not change that until we support Ed25519
[15:36] <teward> ack
[15:37] <cjwatson> Because it'll be more effective to push straight from DSA to Ed25519 if possible, rather than getting people to change twice