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tsimonq2It really pains me to do it but you just found that too late.00:00
Wafficus_back, accidentally hit the power button lol00:01
wxl@tsimonq2: you mean we won't be able to fix this in the future? we just have to live with it? is there no workaround we can provide?00:03
Wafficus_weird ha00:03
Wafficus_must be double signed in00:03
tsimonq2wxl: The workaround is "partition it manually" but we need to tackle this fix right at the beginning of next cycle.00:03
wxl@tsimonq2: so no hope of the 0-day SRU fix?00:03
wxloh wait00:04
wxlduh00:04
wxlyou said images are final00:04
tsimonq2I was gonna say00:04
tsimonq2XD00:04
tsimonq2Right00:04
wxlbut we could have people upgrade before installing00:04
tsimonq2IMAGES are final00:04
tsimonq2Installers are final00:04
tsimonq2Calamares is final00:04
tsimonq2Installed experience isn't00:04
wxlahhhh00:04
wxldidn't realize they locked down the installers too00:04
wxlok, so we need clear instructions on how one should accomplish this with a manual partition00:04
tsimonq2Right.00:04
wxlto be sure we got it write, do that up in the release ntoes and i'll test it and modify as needed00:05
wxls/write/right/ jeez00:05
tsimonq2k00:05
wxland i'll kick that over to +2 later too00:05
tsimonq2k00:05
wxl@tsimonq2: you ever heard of xtrlock?00:28
wxlsee here. seems pretty cool. https://ramanchennai.wordpress.com/2010/09/04/xtrlock-a-minimal-x-display-lock-tool/00:29
lyorianalthough will this mean you can't do no network encryption 00:31
wxlif we really want a screensaver, maybe we should work on selecting only the ones we want to be shown?00:38
wxlthey're still adding new ones00:38
wxlthere's even an "esper machine" (see blade runner) added in 201700:39
wxlPeepers00:41
wxlFloating eyeballs. Anatomically correct, and they also track the pointer. 00:41
wxlthat's from this year00:41
wxland there's a bunch of scott davies (see "electric sheep") savers. he rocks. even the old ones look good.00:42
wxlSubstrate00:43
wxlCrystalline lines grow on a computational substrate. A simple perpendicular growth rule creates intricate city-like structures. 00:43
wxl^ that looks like a freaking kadinsky painting00:43
wxlooooh they have the tron bit too!00:43
wxlwow i didn't know about all this00:44
wxlsorry, xscreensaver rules!00:44
wxlthat said a bunch of these are not installed, which might explain something00:45
kc2bezI think the default flaming color bar picture on the background of some needs replacement.00:46
wxlfor sure00:47
wxlbut there are some really nice ones00:47
kc2bezSome aren't too bad. Is there a way to pretty up the lock screen?00:48
wxltry installing xscreensaver-data-extra, xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra00:49
wxlthat just activates xscreensaver00:49
kc2bezWow there are a ton!00:54
kc2bezThe man page is a good read. Lengthy, but fun in spots.01:02
Wafficuswxl: any qt based tasks I could help out with? :D01:13
Wafficuswxl: I pretty much got to class inheritance with qt creator's beginner guide01:14
wxlkc2bez: jwz is actually a pretty cool guy, i think01:50
kc2bezI agree :wxl01:57
wxli think making a screensaver might be a fun project01:59
wxlWHOA BLOCKTUBE RULES01:59
kc2bezCheck out some of the GL ones.02:00
wxli know!02:00
wxlcage is a mind trip02:01
wxlif you're an escher fan check that out02:01
kc2bezNice!02:02
wxlcrank up the texture complexity on cubenetic02:04
kc2bezThat makes your eyes bug out.02:05
wxlheheheh02:05
wxlDecayScreen02:05
wxlMelts an image in various ways. Warning, if the effect continues after the screen saver is off, seek medical attention.02:06
kc2bezDon't stare at that.02:06
kc2bezFireworkx02:08
wxloh wow02:09
wxlthat's wild02:09
kc2bezLooks kinda real.02:09
wxllooks better than real02:12
wxllooks like hallucinogens may have been involved XD02:12
kc2bezLoL02:12
wxlholy crow hydrostat is really cool02:23
kc2bezIndeed it is.02:24
wxlalso i ADORE hypnowheel02:24
kc2bezCan't stare at that either.02:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL11b4c7a3ebc9: add screenshots for Quassel and lximage thanks to Wendy for the artichoke…] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL11b4c7a3ebc902:25
wxloh hahaha try kumppa02:27
kc2bezThat does suck you in.02:28
kc2bezHow many monitors do you have?02:28
wxlone presently02:28
wxloooooh memscroller is fun02:29
kc2bezI have 2. Juggler has a different one on each monitor.02:29
wxlcool02:29
lubot<tsimonq2> What in tarnation are you both doing? :)02:29
wxlwe're going through the hundreds of screensavers available for xscreensaver02:30
wxlit turns out the default options kind of suck but there's lots that are really really cool02:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Dude sweeet02:30
lubot<tsimonq2> Create a task02:30
wxlwe have one02:30
kc2bezThere is a task02:30
wxlyou made it XD02:30
kc2bezI think I started it via @tsimonq202:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Both put your favorites on there and shaddap XD02:31
wxli'll set up an rc and attach it02:32
wxlsome of them look good under non-default conditions02:32
wxljeeeez i open molecule and it immediately pops up heroin O_O02:33
kc2bezMethamphetamine for me 02:34
wxlheh02:34
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Cosmic Final] has been updated (20181017)02:35
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wxl^ world respin @tsimonq2 ?02:36
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> ^ world respin @tsimonq2 ?], Oh hahahahahahahaha02:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Respin because of Ubiquity.02:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Go whack Adam over the head. :)02:44
* wxl facepalms02:44
wxland it was he who wouldn't let is tweak cala?02:44
lubot<tsimonq2> He wouldn't help us.02:44
lubot<tsimonq2> He didn't say we couldn't.02:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Er, might have actually been for util-linux. Who knows? :P02:45
wxloh well02:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9a0670d73bee: make screenshots for ARK 2048-qt and qterminal appear.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9a0670d73bee02:55
wxloh crap @tsimonq2 re-reading Climby's note i think he's saying that non-encrypted EFI is failing for him03:09
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#220903:14
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> oh crap @tsimonq2 re-reading Climby's note i think he's saying that non-en …], Yeah we still need a Cala change anyway fixing that.03:21
wxloh what was that?03:21
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb19e71cbda02: Add obvious warning about data loss.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb19e71cbda0203:23
lyorianis this only with vms or real hardware?03:29
wxllyorian: which specific thing you asking about?03:29
lyorianthe cala and efi?03:30
wxlefi/encryption fails regardless of the situation03:30
wxlit's, ultimately, because of some failings on the part of canonical03:30
wxlbasically ubiquity has hacked around that quirk and we need to essentially do the same but it's just too late03:31
lyorianI mean non encrypted efi03:31
wxloh that works everywhere, except for Climby who has a 32-bit firmware and a 64-bit CPU03:31
lyorianwxl are you sure?03:31
wxli did pretty extensive testing03:32
wxlyou're welcome to double check03:32
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T61: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T61#221003:39
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> oh what was that?], I gave you a pastebin but before bootloader context03:43
wxl@tsimonq2: tl;dr move up the modification of sources.list and remove the http links03:44
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: tl;dr move up the modification of sources.list and remove the h …], Yeah03:45
wxldo you want me to do that?03:45
lubot<tsimonq2> I gave you my proposed changes already, just commit it.03:46
wxlkk 1s03:47
lyorianwxl I am getting grub recovery on an ovmf vm with xfs using manual partitioning.03:48
lyorianI hope I am not fat fingering it03:48
wxllyorian: with encryption?03:48
lyorianwxl no03:48
wxlok but with efi?03:48
lyorianyes03:49
wxllemme check03:49
lyorianovmf is what you need to run on virt manager an efi vm03:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] Climby (Michael Garrison) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#221103:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS07a443fb588d: Ensure upgrades don't happen for EFI packages.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS07a443fb588d04:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGSa392e286f370: Clarify changelog.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGSa392e286f37004:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#221204:02
wxl@tsimonq2: looks like lyn||ian is right. efi/manual partitioning/xfs fails :(04:20
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: looks like lyn||ian is right. efi/manual partitioning/xfs fails …], Dude, with my patch or without?04:20
wxloh hm that affects all efi things? cuz i had regular efi working before that04:20
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah04:21
wxlstill fails, @tsimonq2 :(04:40
wxl@tsimonq2: to be clear, the fail is upon reboot ending in grub recovery04:41
wxlshould we really support jfs?04:45
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T97: Cala doesn't do 32-bit UEFI] Climby (Michael Garrison) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T97#221305:00
wxl^^ @tsimonq2 your fix failed :(05:01
wxlbtrfs efi does NOT fail05:16
lyorianwxl what?07:12
guivercsorry about the lxde/lxqt screenfetch lp bug - really really petty & stupid; I wondered if a comment here was better, opted for lp...12:26
lubot<tsimonq2> No worries guiverc :)12:26
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lubot<bonacin91> i do use numix19:41
lubot<bonacin91> love em19:41
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lubot<Wafficus> Anything to test before the Thursday release?20:07
lubot<tsimonq2> Not really. We're going to get one more respin and then we're set.20:08
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lubot<Dreamingwolf> @queuebot [<queuebot> Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Cosmic Final] has been updated (2018101 …], 👍😁👌😁21:35
lubot<tsimonq2> We'll get one more respin because vorlon was a bit trigger happy. :P21:36
mpmc18.04 -> 18.10 upgrade possible? :)21:46
lubot<tsimonq2> You can try, but it will very likely slaughter your kittens.21:47
wxlmpmc: you can reduce the likelihood of young cat abuse with https://manual.lubuntu.me/D/upgrading.html21:50
lubot<Dreamingwolf> Fresh install = fresh litterbox ... Must Save Kittens!!!21:51
lubot<tsimonq2> "young cat abuse" that's a different way to word it XD21:51
mpmcwxl: So the short answer is no :p21:55
lubot<Dreamingwolf> With frameworks switching from gtk to qt… most likely no.21:57
wxlmpmc: the answer is .... not easily21:58
mpmcI need to reinstall my HTPC anyway :)21:58
wxl@tsimonq2: we done with respins yet22:00
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: we done with respins yet], Read above22:01
lubot<tsimonq2> One more22:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5cf8cea9f8dc: Add useage for preview/scan/zoom in or out] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5cf8cea9f8dc22:02
lyorianwxl: what broke this time?22:18
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7de34cf8241d: Add desktop icons to toctree.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7de34cf8241d22:19
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mpmcWhy does that build bot have the channel name in it's nick? :p23:01
lubot<tsimonq2> That's client side. :P23:02
lubot<tsimonq2> Otherwise it's just a notice.23:02
mpmcYeah, I just saw that, oops >.<23:02
lubot<tsimonq2> Hehe np23:02

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