[04:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T107: final 18.10 testing] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
[04:12] <wxl> ^^^^ let's get that last round of testing in
[04:51] <lyorian> ok
[05:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] Steedalion (Steed) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2232
[05:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2233
[05:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T98: Proofread the Lubuntu Manual] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T98#2239
 Hi all, sorry but I've had a lot of work this las days, is there something that need to be tested still?
 Same anything needs to be tested near 7:00 pm est?
 So uh, hey wxl, I think the only bug left is https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798562 and that's a Ubiquity one.
 @Wafficus [Same anything needs to be tested near 7:00 pm est?], Not really.
 Just help with the manual and release notes at this point.
 @HMollerCl [Hi all, sorry but I've had a lot of work this las days, is there something that …], Same thing to you ^
 ok
 Or help wxl with https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
[14:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] final 18.10 testing: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
 @tsimonq2 [So uh, hey wxl, I think the only bug left is https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798562 …], Actually, @HMollerCl, @Wafficus, et. al, Calamares should have this functionality, could you please make sure 100% that it can't be reproduced?
 (On Lubuntu, at least.)
 will check
 So install whatever distro in a VM, then reboot and choose auto resize or similar with Calamares.
 @HMollerCl [will check], 👍 you da man
 I did install alongside windows a couple of days ago in 32bit
 Does that count?
 But haven't tested if windows worked
 We're specifically talking about 64 bit BIOS systems here.
 @HMollerCl [But haven't tested if windows worked], Yeah, that's the kicker.
 Try installing another Linux distro first then Lubuntu to test.
 So at least we know both will actually work otherwise. XD
 MMM, doesn't give me that option
 Oh?
 (Photo, 1094x480) https://i.imgur.com/XPeK1J1.jpg
 when I installed alongside windows it gave me the option
 Huh
 That's really interesting
 however, the first system I have installed is lubuntu, maybe there can't be 2 lubuntus installed....
 Yeah, try a different one, maybe Kubuntu 18.04 or something (not Cosmic) first
 Oh, and also, make the disk more than the recommended size for your VM
 Maybe 50 instead of 20
 That way there's no reason the installer wouldn't let you.
 ok
 Actually
 Scratch what I said about it not being Cosmic.
 Please try Cosmic for both, but different flavors I guess.
 the bug says both wher ubuntu
 Right, Ubuntu or a flavor :)
 ok
 They're releasing anyway but I think it's important to see if we need to release note it.
 So thank you @HMollerCl
 btw, is very nice the install alongside. When I didi it I first tried to manually partition the drive but it didn't work, I don't realized it until I was insatlling it. When I was installing I saw the install alongside option, and let me chose in which partition to install and how much i should resize the partition.
 👍
 making biger the virtual disk make the install alongside appear
 installing teh second system
 finish installation
 selected teh first system that appears in grub, it was the second installation, botting in the second system in order of apperance (supposed to be the first installed system)
 yes it is the first installed system, login in sddm
 login w/o problems
 all this tested in an image of 14oct  (I haven't finished downloading the one from 17oct)
 👍
 @HMollerCl Now could you help us finish up the tests on iso.qa.ubuntu.com so I can mark things as ready? :)
 yup, just finished the download of 17oct
 👍
[16:52] <wxl> since ya'll were asking about helping does https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107 make sense? @HMollerCl @Wafficus @TheWendyPower ?
[16:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] final 18.10 testing: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
 @tsimonq2 ready the iso.qa.ubuntu for 64bit
 @wxl [<wxl> since ya'll were asking about helping does https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107 ma …], I didn't undertsand well the different scenarios to test and teh priority of them
[17:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] final 18.10 testing: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
[17:17] <wxl> @HMollerCl just do all the different combinations
[17:17] <wxl> start with ext4 as i have been
 but the ones you already tested didn't need to be tested again, or yes?
[17:18] <wxl> right now i'm doing the manual versions of all the automated tests, in reverse order
[17:18] <wxl> just do ones that haven't been done
[17:18] <wxl> given the need to also do btrfs and xfs there's a lot to do
 32bit are important?
[17:18] <wxl> less so
[17:18] <wxl> i worry about 32 bit last
 ok, what the hell is GPT?
[17:19] <wxl> it's the partition table type that's typically set up with EFI
 alway use MBR
 aaaa ok.
[17:19] <wxl> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[17:20] <wxl> i'm currently not focusing right now on GPT on BIOS cuz that's a little weird
 in virtualbox marking "Enable EFI" is enough?
[17:21] <wxl> yes
 when manual partitioning, which partition should be created?
 only / ?
 swap?
[17:22] <wxl> i'm only doing / 
 ok
 @tsimonq2 is more important to help @wxl or to fill iso.qa.ubuntu for 32bit?
[17:23] <wxl> this might be interesting to read if you're curious about the values and differences of GPT https://www.howtogeek.com/193669/whats-the-difference-between-gpt-and-mbr-when-partitioning-a-drive/
[17:26] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i think i'm probably out of time on the SRUs. should i change the release notes to say something like the changes will be coming in the next couple days?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: i think i'm probably out of time on the SRUs. should i change t …], Yeah.
 So wxl, what was the whole deal with using plasmoids in LXQt? You looked into it at one point.
[17:37] <wxl> i have no clue how we can do it is about as far as i got XD
 @wxl [<wxl> since ya'll were asking about helping does https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107 ma …], I think so.
[17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] final 18.10 testing: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
 OH by the way wxl... This is something that's super sweet... Upstream there's a PR which allows for much more modern and less ephemeral notification handling.
[17:39] <wxl> that may be in openbox, too
[17:39] <wxl> oops
 In LXQt
[17:39] <wxl> nice
[17:48] <wxl> you can't git push to the https URLs?
 Nope.
[17:50] <wxl> dang
[17:50] <wxl> um
[17:50] <wxl> i don't have my key
[17:50] <wxl> can i give you a patch? :/
 Me neither :)
 BUT
 You know you can paste diffs in the web browser and Arc picks them up like normal right?
[17:51] <wxl> someone apply this to the blog then https://share.riseup.net/#LaUaZDp1GoZNIDjfBEquNg XD
[17:51] <wxl> ohh?
 But then it's merging it
 Meeeeh
 Why don't you have your keys? XD
[17:52] <wxl> that's the one key i don't have at work
 Wait what?
 Why don't you just add your work SSH key to Phab? :)
[17:55] <wxl> bah
[17:55] <wxl> it goes against my general goal of using separate keys for separate projects
[17:56] <wxl> but i guess i could
 Dude, I use one SSH key for everything :)
[17:56] <wxl> it's a good idea
[17:56] <wxl> just like one password for everything
[17:56] <wxl> maybe no passwords at all! 
 Dude, SSH keys aren't passwords.
 I only have one GPG key too...
[17:58] <wxl> they are most certainly an authentication key
[17:58] <wxl> s/key/token/
[17:58] <wxl> technically a GPG key is not
 They aren't as simple as passwords.
 As long as you take care of your private key, I don't see why it's an issue
[17:59] <wxl> crap happens
 You could make the same argument with your GPG key.
 Anyway
 Enough of this XD
 Alright folks, home stretch. Just gotta get these announcements out, get these SRUs rolling, and we've done it. :)
[18:04] <ChunkzZ> ugh, to install Elementary OS or wait for 18.10 - hmmm.
[18:04] <ChunkzZ> what is sru tsimonq2?
 Stable Release Update.
[18:06] <ChunkzZ> nice!
[18:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG6142ae3c1f4b: extending expectations for release of SRUs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG6142ae3c1f4b
 @wxl grub on efi is different
 no theming
[18:15] <wxl> yeah there's a task for that
[18:15] <wxl> surprisingly even mate doesn't have that themed
 when selecting ext4 encrypted, file system is changed to LUKS
[18:21] <wxl> it is but it's not
 (Photo, 510x236) https://i.imgur.com/nUuUHXx.jpg
 so I need to create 2 partitions for EFI?
 one fat32 in /boot/efi and one ext4 for / ??
[18:30] <wxl> yes @HMollerCl
[18:30] <wxl> don't forget the esp flag
 any size for the fat32 one?
[18:31] <wxl> i think the default is like 200-250mb
[18:31] <wxl> i just do 222 because it saves keystrokes XD
[18:31] <wxl> well
[18:31] <wxl> moving fingers, at least
[18:33] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/860
[18:33] <wxl> oops wrong chan
 @wxl [<wxl> oops wrong chan], DUDE I SWEAR
 XD
 ok, doing this:
[18:34] <wxl> seriously too many things to do. maybe if i didn't have to do searches for you @tsimonq2 :)
 manual  yes  GPT  EFI  ext4  no  64
 can't update the table
 @wxl [<wxl> seriously too many things to do. maybe if i didn't have to do searches for …], Maybe if you didn't put 50 freaking channels in one irssi window :)
[18:34] <wxl> o let me fix that
[18:35] <wxl> done
 ok, I blieve this should failed, which are the failures?
[18:37] <wxl> grub recovery
[18:37] <wxl> in other news: freaking joey https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=136060
 perhaps I skimmed that too fast. ^^
 @wxl [<wxl> in other news: freaking joey https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/?p=136060], You're damn right.
 Oh well, better news outlets get the story.
 @wxl you deleted my clock?
[19:01] <ChunkzZ> is it out?????
 It's out, but the announcement isn't yet.
 Give me a few to get to a computer and look over it one more time.
[19:04] <ChunkzZ> can I grab the mini.iso and install?
[19:04] <ChunkzZ> heh, no. damn.
 You can grab the actual ISO and install
[19:05] <ChunkzZ> from where?
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.10/release/
[19:05] <ChunkzZ> is that the final release?
[19:06] <ChunkzZ> I thought 1.6gb was a bug?
 Yes, that is the final release.
 Not a bug.
[19:07] <ChunkzZ> will I have the option for a minimal install?
 No, sorry
[19:08] <ChunkzZ> ugh
 (Photo, 612x176) https://i.imgur.com/9we30Cl.jpg
 @wxl this is the failure??
 Yup
 @tsimonq2 [http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/18.10/release/], i'm goin to test on VM
 👍
 Welcome!
 Thanks
 Hi
[19:40] <wxl> yes that's the fail @HMollerCl
 Ok, now I'm testing the same w/o encryption
 Apparently the problem is EFI+encryption
 Yup
 We didn't get it fixed in time for the release
[19:44] <wxl> looks like it
[19:44] <wxl> after you're done with yours and i'm done with mine hans, let's go through the other file systems with efi/encryption
[19:45] <wxl> or at least xfs and btrfs
[19:46] <wxl> and then let's check those out with efi/unencrypted
[19:47] <ChunkzZ> Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: Ubuntu "cosmic" 18.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6100 CPU @ 3.70GHz (800MHz) • Memory: 7.5 GiB Total (7.2 GiB Free) • Storage: 8.3 GB / 74.8 GB (66.5 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 530 @ Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers • Uptime: 42s
[19:47] <ChunkzZ> nice!
 :D
 @wxl [<wxl> after you're done with yours and i'm done with mine hans, let's go through …], maybe @N0um3n0 want's to help us with this.
 @HMollerCl [maybe @N0um3n0 want's to help us with this.], I think it escapes my knowledge
 what is the problem?
[19:54] <ChunkzZ> I knew I should've reported my bug :(
 @ChunkzZ [<ChunkzZ> I knew I should've reported my bug :(], Always report bugs, always :)
 Anyway, what's your issue?
 Maybe we can fix it :)
[19:55] <ChunkzZ> when I open chromium, I set as the default browser... I close chromium and open chromium, it asks again...
[19:55] <ChunkzZ> apps keep on opening with firefox now and not chromium.
 Ahh, yes, we had to money with that quite a bit.
 wxl knows more
[19:55] <wxl> ugh
 Money? Monkey. XD
[19:55] <wxl> you know what? it's not a bug
[19:55] <wxl> it just freaking sucks
[19:56] <wxl> what i have gotten in the habit of doing is setting my default browser everywhere to x-www-browser and then using alternatives to twiddle the value of it
 @ChunkzZ [<ChunkzZ> when I open chromium, I set as the default browser... I close chromium …], i report this few days ago
 Anyone want to have a team meeting in an hour? :)
[19:59] <wxl> let's just do it
 @tsimonq2 [Anyone want to have a team meeting in an hour? :)], I'm in
[19:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T107: final 18.10 testing] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107#2256
[19:59] <wxl> it will be a short meeting
 I can meet. I will be on the road but available.
 Cool 👍
[20:03] <wxl> i'll keep on testing until then
[20:03] <lyorian> I am in a bit but tired
[20:03] <wxl> you don't with your install yet @HMollerCl
[20:03] <wxl> ?
[20:03] <wxl> donne?
[20:03] <wxl> ugh
 restarting
 ok done
[20:15] <wxl> @HMollerCl you stole my check. :) i put it back.
[20:18] <tsimonq2> HEY EVERYONE
[20:18] <tsimonq2> LOOK AT THIS
[20:18] <tsimonq2> Go to Lubuntu.me
[20:18] <tsimonq2> It's a secret project @VikingRedwolf has been working on
[20:18] <wxl> holy crap that pink is hurting me
[20:18] <tsimonq2> Well too bad :)
[20:19] <wxl> the second screenshot needs to be fixed eventually :)
[20:19] <ChunkzZ> the "get" lubuntu doesn't lead to 18.10 ;)
 Qool!
[20:19] <wxl> oh yeah we need to fix that
[20:20] <wxl> can you handle that @tsimonq2 ? my suggestion? only move the html around and it is easy
[20:20] <tsimonq2> Yeah, I'll update the downloads page and clean up the rest of the homepage as soon as we publish the announcement.
[20:20] <tsimonq2> I'm working on that, by the wya.
[20:20] <tsimonq2> *way
[20:21] <ChunkzZ> I can't believe how fast it is O_o
[20:21] <ChunkzZ> like opening apps etc is flawless.
[20:21] <wxl> heee
[20:22] <wxl> i love that because it's almost unintentional
[20:22] <wxl> :)
[20:22] <ChunkzZ> I'm so glad I waited now... was defiantly worth the wait for LXQt. :D
[20:22]  * ChunkzZ just has a few more systems to do xD
[20:23] <ChunkzZ> anyway, back to lurking. :) you guys are awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[20:23] <tsimonq2> Don't lurk, stick around :D
[20:23] <tsimonq2> Really cool to have more people participating in the channel here :)
 wait what, lxqt has a krunner like launcher?
 Alt + F2
 lxqt-runner
 is that new or something?
 er
 No, it's been there for a while
 yea that command needs to change next release
 lxqt-runner isn't the name, hmm
 keybind I mean
 XD
 If you say so
 Oh, I guess it is called lxqt-runner
 Cool
 I have suggestions to change a LOT of keybinds. UX is my thing and I have so many to fix up including that with others as well :D
 so many tasks for me to make
 Yes, make All The Tasks :D
 I am doing the video with compton active but I did the install with compton not running . . . didnt realize it wouldnt be auto until after install
 Yeah, wxl made a case against enabling it by default but I'd be curious to get your thoughts on that too
[20:40] <wxl> did i? i mean i dunno
[20:41] <wxl> ugh
 @tsimonq2 [Alt + F2], "right meta + r" also works
 @tsimonq2 [Yeah, wxl made a case against enabling it by default but I'd be curious to get y …], I agree not enabling it by default.
[20:42] <wxl> i'm so deep into virtual machines it's gotten to the point that i automatically hit right ctrl when switching windows
 actually, to enable compton is a 2 step process. First step only enable some transparecies, like the panel transprencies. Second step enables the other effects.
 @HMollerCl ["right meta + r" also works], interesting but not better
 @tsimonq2 [Yeah, wxl made a case against enabling it by default but I'd be curious to get y …], I think it would be best to offer the option on install if possible that way if you want the best polish enable if you are going for resources thing then disable it
 @HMollerCl [actually, to enable compton is a 2 step process. First step only enable some tra …], all I did was run compton from the main menu
 @MichaelTunnell [all I did was run compton from the main menu], that enables first step
 @MichaelTunnell [I think it would be best to offer the option on install if possible that way if …], Exactly
 @HMollerCl [that enables first step], what is the next step?
 if you go to Preferences -> LXQt Settings -> Window Effects
 there you can change Opacity for example
 oh thats for customizing though. I thought you mean there were more steps to activate functions
 If you di that a conf file will be generated with more settings.
 @MichaelTunnell [oh thats for customizing though. I thought you mean there were more steps to act …], The thing is that if you don't customize, the configuration file compton.conf won't be created.
 hmm
 so what benefit is it to make the config vs not making it?
 I just edited the settings to make one
 window opacity
 (which people seems to like)
 I thought I already saw that for inactive windows but maybe it was just the titlebars that I noticed that for
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Go to Lubuntu.me], Welcome to the new eighties
 I like it
 "Ubuntu Software Center" must be changed by Discover, right?
[21:00] <wxl> yes
 do you tested plasma-nm as network manager?
[21:02] <lyorian> nm-tray
 Yeah, plasma-nm wouldn't work for us.
 nm-tray doesn't have all the KDE dependencies.
 Wave if you're around for a team meeting.
 o/
[21:05] <lyorian> o/
 O/
 Meh, I don't think it's enough people.
 Maybe another dya.
 *day
 Everyone sorta forgot about it anyway until like an hour ago :D
 👍 it is a bit busy for all.
 If you want to tell everyone what you've been up to in the past week regardless, that's fine, but mostly for me it's been wabbit hunting and a long game of whack a mole :)
[21:09] <wxl> o/
[21:09] <lyorian> I have been  continuing to work on manual and had first pull request 
[21:10] <tsimonq2> \o/
[21:10] <tsimonq2> Great work lyorian :)
[21:10] <lyorian> one impoirtant thing is I think one high proity for manual is someone to have useage for bluedevil and how to connect to wifi with nm-tray
[21:10] <wxl> i've been (recently) mostly working on tracking down the conditions that this EFI/encryption bug occurs in... so far, it seems like all :(
 Question before I make it into a wish list item, why don't we create a testing queue in which team members can sign off that they tested something and to see what else to test?
 A general wiki page actually wouldn't be a bad idea.
[21:11] <wxl> @Wafficus that's essentially waht the tracker is. beyond that, we make tasks. like this: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
[21:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] final 18.10 testing: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107
 Also, can we make more actual qt based games like 2048 as a team
[21:12] <wxl> @Wafficus there already are some. you should create a wiki page of suggestions for Qt-friendly but not KDE-required apps
 Gotcha I'll just pay attention to the tracker then
 You got it will do but where is the general wiki page for our distro that I can just "add" a new wiki page ?
[21:13] <wxl> phab.lubuntu.me/w
[21:13] <lyorian> yeah that is a great wiki page I think appendix A of the manual should link to that page
 It just uses like a form right to post a new wiki page right ?
 I was able to help a bit with proofing the manual. IRL seems to be more demanding than normal.
 Thanks wxl. We should probably just rename it to wiki for that tab aka /wiki
 Why /w lol
[21:14] <wxl> @Wafficus go to the phabricator and look to the left. for "wiki." also w is short for wiki. phabricator uses short bits for links. because long urls suck.
 Ah gotcha no worries as long as there's a reason
 Ha you even optimized the link names
[21:15] <tsimonq2> lyorian: Mind if I go ahead and push some changes to the manual real quick?
[21:15] <lyorian> tsimonq2: please do
[21:15] <tsimonq2> Cool, I'll go ahead and directly push.
 Just saying that maybe normal people might not find it. Maybe have the /wiki redirect to /w anyway
[21:15] <wxl> again, look to the left for "wiki." right there. on every page.
[21:18] <wxl> i also did a major overhaul on the bugs page
[21:18] <wxl> i continue to add default packages there
 Hi, just back
 Thanks for the bugs page. I did notice.
 I'v been helpinf @wxl with 107
[21:19] <lyorian> note the manual on the left on phab links to the display page for the manual not the repo I have made that mistake several times
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc7eac03287a0: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/tsimonq2-typo-cleanup'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc7eac03287a0
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf796d17851d5: Typo and grammer.] Steedalion (Steed) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf796d17851d5
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL65bde59a3c84: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/patch-1'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL65bde59a3c84
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb077d950b2b2: Updated Chapter 2.2.6 qpdfview] Steedalion (Steed) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb077d950b2b2
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb6671be84f69: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/patch-2'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb6671be84f69
[21:19] <wxl> i've had it on the TODO list to really create a fantastic bug triage team for a looooong time and that's a good first step
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2f873211b7d7: Correct heading name to "Accessories"] Steedalion (Steed) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2f873211b7d7
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL39f785b1b310: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/patch-3'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL39f785b1b310
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdac642bd1a13: Update ARK] Steedalion (Steed) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdac642bd1a13
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL025ee7aa60f0: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/patch-4'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL025ee7aa60f0
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc9378e5e071d: Updated upgrading doc] Steedalion (Steed) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc9378e5e071d
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL60919ae828c6: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/patch-5'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL60919ae828c6
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdd5d122cee25: Update ARK docs] Steedalion (Steed) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdd5d122cee25
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL391799ab3ccf: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/patch-6'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL391799ab3ccf
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL900726a2299b: Merge remote-tracking branch 'pr-1/patch-7'] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL900726a2299b
[21:19] <wxl> simon!!!1
[21:20] <tsimonq2> All done XD
[21:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL778fb798ee6f: Update booting_the_image.rst] Steedalion (Steed) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL778fb798ee6f
[21:20] <tsimonq2> Someone submitted a looooot of changes to the manual.
[21:20] <wxl> that's fantastic!
[21:21] <wxl> it would be nice if we could gather some folks together.. after we've had a little breather.. to start going over 18.04 bugs of which there are still some out there
 👍
[21:22] <wxl> you volunteering @kc2bez? :)
[21:22] <tsimonq2> I'm going to manually kick off a manual.lubuntu.me update for all the changes.
 @wxl I see a clear path in 107
 To help you as much as I can ;)
[21:23] <wxl> indeed @HMollerCl
 with btrfs, the shutdown was differente than ext4 and gave me some errors
[21:25] <wxl> @kc2bez the #1 thing you can do is go through bugs under lubuntu packages team or tagged lubuntu. start with the newest ones and go down. try to reproduce them. if you can, marked them confirmed and make sure all the other things for triage are taken care of and get me for statuses and priorites. if you can't, say as such and let me know and i'll make it invalid. 
[21:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Clean up manual warnings] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108
[21:26] <wxl> did we get enough tests for 32 bit? i didn't even freaking pay attention
[21:27] <tsimonq2> We did.
[21:27] <tsimonq2> I was paying attention.
[21:27] <tsimonq2> Lots of new testers this time around actually.
[21:27] <tsimonq2> Our PR campaign worked :)
[21:28] <wxl> darn
 :wxl I will try to help when I can. If I get stuck I will let you know.
[21:28] <wxl> :)
[21:28] <wxl> @kc2bez as you can see you cannot set priorities and statuses until you can join the right team. do some of that basic triage for a bit and we'll get you an application
 Sounds good.
 https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ needs to be updated
 Yup.
[21:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL28ba21df7c5b: Add new spec.pdf after spe.rst got updated] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL28ba21df7c5b
[21:38] <lyorian> ok spec.rst is updated but I make spec.pdf actually with rst2dpf 
[21:38] <tsimonq2> Awesome :)
[21:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALeb8e1f60738e: Fix underlining warnings.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALeb8e1f60738e
 @tsimonq2 [nm-tray doesn't have all the KDE dependencies.], nm-tray only has a terminal window for network configuration?
[21:41] <tsimonq2> Right, that hasn't been implemented yet.
 ok
[21:41] <wxl> anyone else need something to work on? :)
[21:42] <wxl> hey @tsimonq2 where did our list of contributors go on the web page?
[21:42] <tsimonq2> wxl: Hiding, because you didn't like it :)
[21:42] <tsimonq2> But yeah, let's get that updated
[21:42] <wxl> i DO like it
[21:42] <tsimonq2> bah OK then :)
[21:42] <wxl> i want everyone on there
[21:42] <tsimonq2> Let's do it
[21:43] <wxl> especially all the wonderful new people we have
[21:43] <tsimonq2> I agree
 @wxl [<wxl> anyone else need something to work on? :)], does we need some more tests  in 107?
[21:44] <wxl> @HMollerCl probably not :(
[21:45] <wxl> and could we put a big gosh darn thank you to all those new contributors in the release announcement please?
[21:45] <wxl> i want to see names on there. recognition is well deserved!
[21:46] <tsimonq2> Yes dear, I'm working on it :)
[21:46] <wxl> huryyyyyyyyy
[21:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3ae855e0b6e8: Fix bullets on qpdfview.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3ae855e0b6e8
[21:56] <wxl> whoa reiser fails with some sort of squashfs error
[21:58] <tsimonq2> hah I bet
 @wxl [<wxl> whoa reiser fails with some sort of squashfs error], same thing happend to me with btrfs
[21:59] <wxl> weird
[21:59] <wxl> cuz btrfs worked fine with me
[22:01] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#0QVvEgLsAiAtMZdLodHX3Q
[22:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGc2c8bbdca3ed: Major release announcement updates (not done yet).] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGc2c8bbdca3ed
[22:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbfaefc65264f: Remove falkon but is in lynorian-save-falkon.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbfaefc65264f
[22:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T108: Clean up manual warnings] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T108#2276
 @wxl [<wxl> cuz btrfs worked fine with me], the error I saw was different. The system went to terminal before reboot, and before "remove media and press enter" it gave my an error unmounting squash
[22:30] <wxl> huh. under which conditions? encryption/gpt/efi?
 yes
[22:31] <wxl> That's weird because it worked for me
[22:31] <wxl> Maybe try again?
 ok, I will
 on other topic, I haven't seen the option to setup a VPN in nm-tray.
 VPN client
[22:32] <wxl> hmmmm
 I normally use the cli. Have to pay attention to that tonight when I get home.
[22:34] <wxl> i use bitmask
[22:34] <wxl> so no need to even bother with all that
[23:06] <wxl> @HMollerCl according to this the VPN stuff should long be in there https://github.com/palinek/nm-tray/issues/3
[23:06] <wxl> also did you notice there's a new nm-tray @tsimonq2 ?
[23:07] <wxl> it allows one to trigger wifi scans
 0uuu
[23:07] <wxl> oh wait that vpn stuff is for "existing" vpn connection
 OUUUUUY
 I SEE
[23:08] <wxl> however, the cli commands can set you up
[23:17] <wxl> @HMollerCl re: VPNs i'm not sure that nmtui is sufficient to handle it. there's some suggestion i've seen that it can't. that's the "editor" referenced in the nm-tray context menu
[23:20] <wxl> @HMollerCl nmcli will work, though
 Will check, need to setup a pptp VPN in my home to connect to my office
 Normally I use network-manager-gnome
[23:25] <lynorian> I honestly haven't used vpns that much 
[23:28] <wxl> well you could use that but gtk ewwwwwwwwwww
[23:28] <Wafficus> hey there team, I read the latest msgs, any last things to try out in a VM?
 By the way wxl I totes think we should port redshift-gtk to Qt.
 @tsimonq2 [By the way wxl I totes think we should port redshift-gtk to Qt.], Nice!
 @Wafficus [<Wafficus> hey there team, I read the latest msgs, any last things to try out in …], Not particularly :)
 Thanks for the offer though Wafficus
 @wxl [<wxl> well you could use that but gtk ewwwwwwwwwww], That's why I want to find a qt solution
[23:34] <wxl> @Wafficus maybe could do some porting?
 @HMollerCl [That's why I want to find a qt solution], nm-tray :)
[23:46] <Wafficus> wxl: well for the next release, tag me with porting I guess for qt, keep in mind, i'm super beginner, but I'm still trying to get the hang of it. I've been following their documentation guide for beginners to make GUI programs with buttons, buttons that close the program, and more recently the slider with the progress bar example.
[23:46] <wxl> Wafficus: maybe make a couple projects for yourself. make a calculator. that might be a good start
 Get agaida to adopt lxqt-calculator upstream, there we go XD
[23:52] <Wafficus> wxl: good idea, I like that tbh
[23:52] <Wafficus> wxl: is the beginner guide documentation a good start though right?
[23:52]  * wxl shrugs
[23:52] <Wafficus> wxl: just making sure cause I want to make sure I'm using my time effectively
[23:52] <wxl> i didn't go through it to be honest. i just duckduckgo'd some stuff that looked decent :)
[23:52] <Wafficus> wxl: gotcha, well, you know I'm doing this because I'd like to be a core developer for the project later on
[23:53] <wxl> and you're certainly on the right track
[23:53] <wxl> none of us are really great c++ developers. or even good ones. or even very good at reading the more clever code.
 No, I'd say I'm good at reading code.
 I suck at writing it though. :)
[23:55] <wxl> c++ has a lot of really unique syntax that can be a little obtuse at times i find
 Meh :)
[23:57] <Wafficus> gotcha, good idea to make a calculator
[23:57] <Wafficus> i'll take you up on that challenge after the guide tbh
[23:57] <Wafficus> thankfully I was exposed to some of this in high school
[23:58] <Wafficus> but I was such a slacker back then and barely cared about school other than making sure I did well in tests.
[23:58] <Wafficus> its interesting seeing it now cause its just a matter of applying more of my adult wisdom tbh
[23:58] <Wafficus> some of it makes more sense than it did in hindsight
 True