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Unit193Hrm, I seem to have http://paste.openstack.org/show/zOO9HkWhuYOG3ef1LdY7 sitting in my clone of the docs.06:07
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akxwi-daveflocculant: I agree, with bug 1798236 thats kind of a killer for release08:07
ubottubug 1798236 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software crashes with assertion failure Gs:ERROR:../lib/gs-plugin-loader.c:1698:gs_plugin_loader_pending_apps_add: assertion failed: (gs_app_list_length (list) > 0)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179823608:07
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.10 - i386 - i386 built.08:22
akxwi-daveahh bugger even after two rebuilds still have 1798236 on 32bit..08:27
* Unit193 wonders if it's one of the Ubuntu patches, and if the Debian one works...08:34
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.10 - amd64 - amd64 built.08:52
Unit193[04:58:14] < seb128> can we get the gnome-software uploads from the queue in as 0 day SRU?09:04
Unit193[05:01:02] < seb128> the one in the release pocket is screwed on i386, that has low number of users nowadays but would still be nice to have fixed in a SRU this week09:04
ochosiwell we can initially only release 64bit and let 32bit follow once the bug is addressed, no?09:04
ochosiah ok, that sounds promising09:05
Unit193So in order to get software installation/upgrades working, one must boot the ISO, open gnome-software, and run updates. :>09:06
bluesabreYup, last word was that it was to be a 0-day SRU09:08
bluesabreso boot, suffer, install, suffer, update, (hopefully not) suffer09:08
ochosiso block 32 and only release 64?09:11
Unit193How does that help..09:13
Unit193bluesabre: Making a bad joke.09:13
bluesabreochosi: there'd not be a 32-bit respin, so it'd be blocked until 19.0409:13
akxwi-daveI know most 32bit users could work their way around the "boot, suffer, install, suffer, update, (hopefully not) suffer" but there would be a backlash if we did that I personally believe.. 09:28
bluesabreI've added a note about it on the release notes, https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.10/release-notes, not sure there's much else we can do10:02
bluesabreochosi: planning to bring a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/+bug/1795135 into cosmic... I see https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/commit/?id=52d4c333269452a03a0f1f8c527861b5cd21792d but not an equivalent fix for greybird10:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1795135 in greybird-gtk-theme (Ubuntu) "Window buttons are not clickable at the top of the screen" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:04
bluesabreSuppose folks should mark their blueprints all postponed https://dev.xubuntu.org/10:20
bluesabre!team | It's release day... if anybody's around to do some final iso testing, please take a moment to do so. (In particular, 32-bit seems to be lacking)11:09
ubottuIt's release day... if anybody's around to do some final iso testing, please take a moment to do so. (In particular, 32-bit seems to be lacking): akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit19311:09
bluesabrehttp://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/397/builds11:10
ochosibluesabre: i'll try to tackle that issue in greybird now12:59
ochosimaybe we can ship those two things as tiny patches atop12:59
ochosibtw, i noticed that the panel patch only adds the classes upon orientation changes, so it also needs to be initialized correctly i guess13:00
ochosiin any case, the best i could do in greybird is the same flickering as in adwaita...13:06
ochosi(not sure that's worth a patch)13:09
ochosiin some way this is certainly a panel bug, i've added some findings to the lp report13:27
Spassochosi, I think it might be related to docked GTK3 apps, because Plank dock items are blinking, but Latte dock (Qt) is fine13:51
ochosipossible as well13:51
ochosibut i only notice this problem with panel at top or at the left13:51
ochosibottom and right are both fine13:51
ochosiif you could test/confirm this, that'd be helpful13:51
Unit193Spass: Using intelli hiding?13:52
SpassUnit193, launchers are blinking with intelli on and off, no difference13:52
Spassthat blinking bug is something I try to "diagnose" since 17.04 - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239737113:53
ochosiyeah, it's probably not a panel regression of 4.1313:55
ochosirather directly related to something in gtk+313:55
ochosiso now that the panel is gtk+3 (and all its internal plugins), this bug became way more noticeable13:55
Spasson 18.04 it's visible only on Whisker, time, and some indicators13:56
SpassWindow Buttons made it much worse :/13:56
Spass(on cosmic)13:57
ochosiyeah, well it simply affects them now too because they are now ported to gtk+313:58
ochosibut again, please move your panel to the bottom or the right screen edge and test with adwaita13:58
ochosiit should not flicker13:59
Spassyes, it only affects top and left edges, so probably elements that are docked to 0x0? just guessing14:00
ochosiyeah, it obviously is related to that somehow14:03
flocculantis anyone around to mark them ready?16:29
flocculantI see tests have been done 16:29
flocculantdid it 16:55
ochosithanks flocculant 17:20
akxwi-davebugger he beat me to it18:13
akxwi-dave:-)18:13
flocculantha ha 18:20
pleia2looks like no blog post prepped, do we have plans/highlights for one?18:26
pleia2I can draft one up real quick based on past ones if needed18:26
* pleia2 just does it ;)18:27
flocculantpleia2: in the past I've kept on top of that - but didn't this time, didn't do much at all this time18:27
pleia2could use some more eyes on it, I just cherry-picked stuff from the release notes draft https://xubuntu.org/?p=4591&preview=true18:37
pleia2and the site itself needs to be flipped to say we've released (knome?)18:37
flocculantpleia2: looking now]18:37
flocculantscans ok18:38
pleia2thanks :)18:39
flocculantknome: 18.10 doesn't exist on releases 18:39
flocculantconsequently not on download page18:40
* pleia2 tries to figure out how to add it18:40
flocculantlol18:40
flocculantcheck out the docs on it ...18:40
pleia2ah, big question is what the description should be18:40
pleia2yeah18:41
pleia2pretty straight forward18:41
flocculantummm 18:41
flocculantBit like 17.10 except we've got some gtk3/xfce4.14 things I thought18:42
flocculantbut I've been rather mia 18:42
pleia2same18:43
pleia2docs need to be uploaded too18:43
flocculantno clue - thought we were moving to not specific docs *shrug*18:44
flocculantanyway - dinner time for me - back tomorrow18:44
flocculantnice to see another release - thanks to all who did stuff for it :)18:45
pleia2well, I added the release aside from docs link and description, and didn't click the released checkmark yet18:49
* pleia2 uploads wallpaper too18:51
pleia2ok, I need rescue from knome now to do the rest :)18:53
pleia2I need to run to the city, but have tiny laptop if need me to do things once the site is updated <319:12
knomemm.20:00
knomeflocculant, docs do not specify release, but since it's possible there are changes in the system/docs between releases, we still do build release-specific docs...20:07
flocculantknome: ok, wasn't completely sure there obviously :)20:18
knomenp20:19
knomeupdating the docs atm20:19
flocculantwasn't sure how to set up new releases either obviously - or I would have done so20:19
knomenp20:20
flocculantanyway - wandering off now - thanks :)20:20
knomei've been MIA too, didn't remember it was release day20:20
knomenighty!20:20
knomeeverything related to 18.10 up now on website20:25
pleia2oh good, I will do some things when I can21:00
pleia2hm, I don't see it on the releases page21:05
pleia2does someone want to un-draft our release notes? :)21:05
pleia2it does have the checkmark now as being released, but even hard refresh of the releases page doesn't make it show up21:10
bluesabrepleia2: un-drafted22:21
bluesabrepleia2: I see the release now22:34
pleia2oh good22:38
ochosibluesabre: where should i see the release..?23:09
ochosioh, i think i see it23:10
ochosii thought you had already published the release announcement23:11
ochosicos apart from the release page there isn't anything yet23:11
ochosi(also, sorry for being pretty late to the party, seems like this time we're all a little unprepared :D)23:12
ochosibluesabre: didn't you have release notes ready at some point? (sry, lost my channel backlog today) just to extend on the blog post draft a little23:16
bluesabreochosi: release notes are ready at https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.10/release-notes23:21
bluesabreochosi: I meant the actual release page is up, different from blog post or anything else, https://xubuntu.org/release/18-10/23:22
ochosiyeah23:23
ochosialso yuck, we have some pretty noticeable issues this time23:25
bluesabreyup23:27
bluesabremeans we can be productive before DD opens up23:27
ochosi:)23:28
ochosishould i start editing the "download xubuntu" page?23:31
ochosior is anybody else currently on this?23:33
bluesabreI am not23:33
ochosijust wondering what the plan is, or if there is one ;)23:34
bluesabreI guess go for it... it seems like all the other bits are ready23:35
bluesabreI lack access to the social medias to announce once we press the button though23:35
ochosiwell the blog post also isn't ready23:36
ochosithose are the two things i see lacking currently (blog post, download page)23:36
ochosihumm, i don't know our stylesheet well enough, what's the alternative to id=lts or id=lts-old?23:37
ochosiknome - knooooome!23:37
ochosi:]23:37
bluesabrecnoma -aaaaaaaa23:37
pleia2I don't know how to make the /download page to show the new release23:38
pleia2the blog post is ready though23:38
pleia2once someone figures out /download ;)23:39
ochosii just updated the downloads page23:40
ochosibut most mirrors are still 40423:40
pleia2yeah, that's normal23:40
ochosinot sure if we want to drop any or if that's even easily possible on a per-release basis23:41
pleia2takes them a bit to carch up23:41
pleia2I'd say audit the list later and remove ones that don't sync after a few days23:42
ochosik23:42
pleia2I'll publish blog post and do social media in a moment23:42
ochosibluesabre: did you read through the blog post?23:43
ochosifeels we highlight only some stuff that doesn't even feel that important (although thanks for the praise on theming updates ;))23:43
ochosipleia2: mind if i add one or two highlights?23:44
ochosiat least a general mention of us shipping more Xfce 4.13 components would be nice23:44
bluesabreochosi: yeah, it's a hard one to announce... "we updated themes and there's more gtk3 things"23:44
bluesabregotta run, bbiab23:44
ochosialthough it's a mix of "highlights" and "known issues" ;D23:44
bluesabre:D23:44
pleia2ochosi: go for it23:47
pleia2I don't know anything, I just copied some things from the release notes :)23:47
pleia2ochosi: feel free to hit publish when you're done and let me know23:48
ochosihehe23:50
ochosipleia2: ok done23:57
pleia2woo23:58
pleia2ok, doing the social media things now23:58

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