Unit193 | Hrm, I seem to have http://paste.openstack.org/show/zOO9HkWhuYOG3ef1LdY7 sitting in my clone of the docs. | 06:07 |
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akxwi-dave | flocculant: I agree, with bug 1798236 thats kind of a killer for release | 08:07 |
ubottu | bug 1798236 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software crashes with assertion failure Gs:ERROR:../lib/gs-plugin-loader.c:1698:gs_plugin_loader_pending_apps_add: assertion failed: (gs_app_list_length (list) > 0)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1798236 | 08:07 |
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.10 - i386 - i386 built. | 08:22 | |
akxwi-dave | ahh bugger even after two rebuilds still have 1798236 on 32bit.. | 08:27 |
* Unit193 wonders if it's one of the Ubuntu patches, and if the Debian one works... | 08:34 | |
-SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 18.10 - amd64 - amd64 built. | 08:52 | |
Unit193 | [04:58:14] < seb128> can we get the gnome-software uploads from the queue in as 0 day SRU? | 09:04 |
Unit193 | [05:01:02] < seb128> the one in the release pocket is screwed on i386, that has low number of users nowadays but would still be nice to have fixed in a SRU this week | 09:04 |
ochosi | well we can initially only release 64bit and let 32bit follow once the bug is addressed, no? | 09:04 |
ochosi | ah ok, that sounds promising | 09:05 |
Unit193 | So in order to get software installation/upgrades working, one must boot the ISO, open gnome-software, and run updates. :> | 09:06 |
bluesabre | Yup, last word was that it was to be a 0-day SRU | 09:08 |
bluesabre | so boot, suffer, install, suffer, update, (hopefully not) suffer | 09:08 |
ochosi | so block 32 and only release 64? | 09:11 |
Unit193 | How does that help.. | 09:13 |
Unit193 | bluesabre: Making a bad joke. | 09:13 |
bluesabre | ochosi: there'd not be a 32-bit respin, so it'd be blocked until 19.04 | 09:13 |
akxwi-dave | I know most 32bit users could work their way around the "boot, suffer, install, suffer, update, (hopefully not) suffer" but there would be a backlash if we did that I personally believe.. | 09:28 |
bluesabre | I've added a note about it on the release notes, https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.10/release-notes, not sure there's much else we can do | 10:02 |
bluesabre | ochosi: planning to bring a fix for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/greybird-gtk-theme/+bug/1795135 into cosmic... I see https://git.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/commit/?id=52d4c333269452a03a0f1f8c527861b5cd21792d but not an equivalent fix for greybird | 10:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1795135 in greybird-gtk-theme (Ubuntu) "Window buttons are not clickable at the top of the screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 10:04 |
bluesabre | Suppose folks should mark their blueprints all postponed https://dev.xubuntu.org/ | 10:20 |
bluesabre | !team | It's release day... if anybody's around to do some final iso testing, please take a moment to do so. (In particular, 32-bit seems to be lacking) | 11:09 |
ubottu | It's release day... if anybody's around to do some final iso testing, please take a moment to do so. (In particular, 32-bit seems to be lacking): akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 11:09 |
bluesabre | http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/397/builds | 11:10 |
ochosi | bluesabre: i'll try to tackle that issue in greybird now | 12:59 |
ochosi | maybe we can ship those two things as tiny patches atop | 12:59 |
ochosi | btw, i noticed that the panel patch only adds the classes upon orientation changes, so it also needs to be initialized correctly i guess | 13:00 |
ochosi | in any case, the best i could do in greybird is the same flickering as in adwaita... | 13:06 |
ochosi | (not sure that's worth a patch) | 13:09 |
ochosi | in some way this is certainly a panel bug, i've added some findings to the lp report | 13:27 |
Spass | ochosi, I think it might be related to docked GTK3 apps, because Plank dock items are blinking, but Latte dock (Qt) is fine | 13:51 |
ochosi | possible as well | 13:51 |
ochosi | but i only notice this problem with panel at top or at the left | 13:51 |
ochosi | bottom and right are both fine | 13:51 |
ochosi | if you could test/confirm this, that'd be helpful | 13:51 |
Unit193 | Spass: Using intelli hiding? | 13:52 |
Spass | Unit193, launchers are blinking with intelli on and off, no difference | 13:52 |
Spass | that blinking bug is something I try to "diagnose" since 17.04 - https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2397371 | 13:53 |
ochosi | yeah, it's probably not a panel regression of 4.13 | 13:55 |
ochosi | rather directly related to something in gtk+3 | 13:55 |
ochosi | so now that the panel is gtk+3 (and all its internal plugins), this bug became way more noticeable | 13:55 |
Spass | on 18.04 it's visible only on Whisker, time, and some indicators | 13:56 |
Spass | Window Buttons made it much worse :/ | 13:56 |
Spass | (on cosmic) | 13:57 |
ochosi | yeah, well it simply affects them now too because they are now ported to gtk+3 | 13:58 |
ochosi | but again, please move your panel to the bottom or the right screen edge and test with adwaita | 13:58 |
ochosi | it should not flicker | 13:59 |
Spass | yes, it only affects top and left edges, so probably elements that are docked to 0x0? just guessing | 14:00 |
ochosi | yeah, it obviously is related to that somehow | 14:03 |
flocculant | is anyone around to mark them ready? | 16:29 |
flocculant | I see tests have been done | 16:29 |
flocculant | did it | 16:55 |
ochosi | thanks flocculant | 17:20 |
akxwi-dave | bugger he beat me to it | 18:13 |
akxwi-dave | :-) | 18:13 |
flocculant | ha ha | 18:20 |
pleia2 | looks like no blog post prepped, do we have plans/highlights for one? | 18:26 |
pleia2 | I can draft one up real quick based on past ones if needed | 18:26 |
* pleia2 just does it ;) | 18:27 | |
flocculant | pleia2: in the past I've kept on top of that - but didn't this time, didn't do much at all this time | 18:27 |
pleia2 | could use some more eyes on it, I just cherry-picked stuff from the release notes draft https://xubuntu.org/?p=4591&preview=true | 18:37 |
pleia2 | and the site itself needs to be flipped to say we've released (knome?) | 18:37 |
flocculant | pleia2: looking now] | 18:37 |
flocculant | scans ok | 18:38 |
pleia2 | thanks :) | 18:39 |
flocculant | knome: 18.10 doesn't exist on releases | 18:39 |
flocculant | consequently not on download page | 18:40 |
* pleia2 tries to figure out how to add it | 18:40 | |
flocculant | lol | 18:40 |
flocculant | check out the docs on it ... | 18:40 |
pleia2 | ah, big question is what the description should be | 18:40 |
pleia2 | yeah | 18:41 |
pleia2 | pretty straight forward | 18:41 |
flocculant | ummm | 18:41 |
flocculant | Bit like 17.10 except we've got some gtk3/xfce4.14 things I thought | 18:42 |
flocculant | but I've been rather mia | 18:42 |
pleia2 | same | 18:43 |
pleia2 | docs need to be uploaded too | 18:43 |
flocculant | no clue - thought we were moving to not specific docs *shrug* | 18:44 |
flocculant | anyway - dinner time for me - back tomorrow | 18:44 |
flocculant | nice to see another release - thanks to all who did stuff for it :) | 18:45 |
pleia2 | well, I added the release aside from docs link and description, and didn't click the released checkmark yet | 18:49 |
* pleia2 uploads wallpaper too | 18:51 | |
pleia2 | ok, I need rescue from knome now to do the rest :) | 18:53 |
pleia2 | I need to run to the city, but have tiny laptop if need me to do things once the site is updated <3 | 19:12 |
knome | mm. | 20:00 |
knome | flocculant, docs do not specify release, but since it's possible there are changes in the system/docs between releases, we still do build release-specific docs... | 20:07 |
flocculant | knome: ok, wasn't completely sure there obviously :) | 20:18 |
knome | np | 20:19 |
knome | updating the docs atm | 20:19 |
flocculant | wasn't sure how to set up new releases either obviously - or I would have done so | 20:19 |
knome | np | 20:20 |
flocculant | anyway - wandering off now - thanks :) | 20:20 |
knome | i've been MIA too, didn't remember it was release day | 20:20 |
knome | nighty! | 20:20 |
knome | everything related to 18.10 up now on website | 20:25 |
pleia2 | oh good, I will do some things when I can | 21:00 |
pleia2 | hm, I don't see it on the releases page | 21:05 |
pleia2 | does someone want to un-draft our release notes? :) | 21:05 |
pleia2 | it does have the checkmark now as being released, but even hard refresh of the releases page doesn't make it show up | 21:10 |
bluesabre | pleia2: un-drafted | 22:21 |
bluesabre | pleia2: I see the release now | 22:34 |
pleia2 | oh good | 22:38 |
ochosi | bluesabre: where should i see the release..? | 23:09 |
ochosi | oh, i think i see it | 23:10 |
ochosi | i thought you had already published the release announcement | 23:11 |
ochosi | cos apart from the release page there isn't anything yet | 23:11 |
ochosi | (also, sorry for being pretty late to the party, seems like this time we're all a little unprepared :D) | 23:12 |
ochosi | bluesabre: didn't you have release notes ready at some point? (sry, lost my channel backlog today) just to extend on the blog post draft a little | 23:16 |
bluesabre | ochosi: release notes are ready at https://wiki.xubuntu.org/releases/18.10/release-notes | 23:21 |
bluesabre | ochosi: I meant the actual release page is up, different from blog post or anything else, https://xubuntu.org/release/18-10/ | 23:22 |
ochosi | yeah | 23:23 |
ochosi | also yuck, we have some pretty noticeable issues this time | 23:25 |
bluesabre | yup | 23:27 |
bluesabre | means we can be productive before DD opens up | 23:27 |
ochosi | :) | 23:28 |
ochosi | should i start editing the "download xubuntu" page? | 23:31 |
ochosi | or is anybody else currently on this? | 23:33 |
bluesabre | I am not | 23:33 |
ochosi | just wondering what the plan is, or if there is one ;) | 23:34 |
bluesabre | I guess go for it... it seems like all the other bits are ready | 23:35 |
bluesabre | I lack access to the social medias to announce once we press the button though | 23:35 |
ochosi | well the blog post also isn't ready | 23:36 |
ochosi | those are the two things i see lacking currently (blog post, download page) | 23:36 |
ochosi | humm, i don't know our stylesheet well enough, what's the alternative to id=lts or id=lts-old? | 23:37 |
ochosi | knome - knooooome! | 23:37 |
ochosi | :] | 23:37 |
bluesabre | cnoma -aaaaaaaa | 23:37 |
pleia2 | I don't know how to make the /download page to show the new release | 23:38 |
pleia2 | the blog post is ready though | 23:38 |
pleia2 | once someone figures out /download ;) | 23:39 |
ochosi | i just updated the downloads page | 23:40 |
ochosi | but most mirrors are still 404 | 23:40 |
pleia2 | yeah, that's normal | 23:40 |
ochosi | not sure if we want to drop any or if that's even easily possible on a per-release basis | 23:41 |
pleia2 | takes them a bit to carch up | 23:41 |
pleia2 | I'd say audit the list later and remove ones that don't sync after a few days | 23:42 |
ochosi | k | 23:42 |
pleia2 | I'll publish blog post and do social media in a moment | 23:42 |
ochosi | bluesabre: did you read through the blog post? | 23:43 |
ochosi | feels we highlight only some stuff that doesn't even feel that important (although thanks for the praise on theming updates ;)) | 23:43 |
ochosi | pleia2: mind if i add one or two highlights? | 23:44 |
ochosi | at least a general mention of us shipping more Xfce 4.13 components would be nice | 23:44 |
bluesabre | ochosi: yeah, it's a hard one to announce... "we updated themes and there's more gtk3 things" | 23:44 |
bluesabre | gotta run, bbiab | 23:44 |
ochosi | although it's a mix of "highlights" and "known issues" ;D | 23:44 |
bluesabre | :D | 23:44 |
pleia2 | ochosi: go for it | 23:47 |
pleia2 | I don't know anything, I just copied some things from the release notes :) | 23:47 |
pleia2 | ochosi: feel free to hit publish when you're done and let me know | 23:48 |
ochosi | hehe | 23:50 |
ochosi | pleia2: ok done | 23:57 |
pleia2 | woo | 23:58 |
pleia2 | ok, doing the social media things now | 23:58 |
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