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| Steedalion | Good day all, I'm not getting snapping windows on 18.10. More specifically the W-arrow keys aren't resizing windows. Is this normal at this stage? | 00:32 |
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| Steedalion | I've replaced the rc.xml files with the ones on github. They have the command and still no luck. | 00:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That might be related to the superkey stuff @TheWendyPower and @HMollerCl had to do... | 00:32 |
| Steedalion | yes | 00:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> They're the ones that worked on superkey support for the menu. | 00:33 |
| wxl | did you restart openbox? | 00:35 |
| wxl | we were doing changes that are global, so not window manager specific | 00:35 |
| wxl | unless they overwrote something but i believe lxqt-globalkeysd should handle that gracefully | 00:36 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T112: Find a solution for LTS users who want a Lubuntu Manual] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T112#2351 | 00:36 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [That might be related to the superkey stuff @TheWendyPower and @HMollerCl had to …], Wow!!! I've never heard before of window snapping. Will have to look at it | 00:40 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [Wow!!! I've never heard before of window snapping. Will have to look at it], It's an Openbox thing :) | 00:41 |
| wxl | uh | 00:43 |
| wxl | i don't see that in the documentation | 00:43 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> ... | 00:43 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Oh, I see what you're getting at, you're not taking a jab at me for not documenting it. XD ... Yeah, it's custom implemented back from the gilir days. We've had it for many releases now. | 00:44 |
| wxl | is that GrowToEdge/GrowToFill? | 00:44 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah. | 00:45 |
| Steedalion | Yes I restarted openbox. I did not try lxqt-globalkeysd. I will try and replace the whole lot and hopefully not break anything. | 00:48 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> The stuff we worked on didn't affect any window management shortcuts. | 01:22 |
| lubot | <TheWendyPower> It was all the global menu. | 01:22 |
| Steedalion | I'm refering to windows resizing just to be clear. | 01:23 |
| wxl | yeah that has nothing to do with lxqt-globalkeys, in general | 01:23 |
| wxl | that's allll openbox | 01:23 |
| wxl | ugh | 01:24 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> ECHAN? :) | 01:25 |
| Steedalion | Yeah. I think I'm gonna spin up a 18.04 and upgrade and see the results because this is killing me. Thanks though. I'll report back on my findings. | 01:25 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Thanks! | 01:25 |
| wxl | did you change the wrong rc.xml file? | 01:26 |
| Steedalion | Could it have anything to do with using the 18.10 image? | 01:27 |
| Steedalion | No. I replaced all. | 01:27 |
| Steedalion | well all in /etc/ | 01:27 |
| wxl | in /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox? | 01:27 |
| Steedalion | do I delete the ones in /USER/.config/ | 01:27 |
| Steedalion | ? | 01:27 |
| Steedalion | yes | 01:27 |
| wxl | i would have changed the ones in ~/.config personally as i believe they take precendence | 01:28 |
| kc2bez | They should :wxl | 01:28 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'm in 18.04 now. What and how should I snap windows? | 01:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Super key + arrow | 01:29 |
| Steedalion | <Windows>+Left | 01:29 |
| wxl | http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Actions#GrowToFill | 01:29 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> perfect! | 01:30 |
| wxl | oh if it's directional it's the one above that.. GrowToEdge | 01:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @Steedalion did you tried righ widnows jkey? | 01:31 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Some machines don't have it | 01:32 |
| Steedalion | @wxl okay, tried that I am ready to give up now. Do you think it has anything to do with using 18.10 image? | 01:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2 [Some machines don't have it], They only have one or the other | 01:32 |
| Steedalion | @HMollerCl, I don't have right one. Only left. | 01:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Ahh, got it. | 01:32 |
| Steedalion | + | 01:32 |
| wxl | loading. 1s | 01:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I wonder if the right one is hardcoded in there. | 01:32 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> mm, becasue at least in my system, the default only works with windows right key | 01:33 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> (defaults for runner and for pcmanfm) | 01:33 |
| Steedalion | Working 100% | 01:33 |
| wxl | ok it's not in there by default | 01:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Wait wat? | 01:34 |
| wxl | it's not | 01:35 |
| wxl | in there | 01:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [mm, becasue at least in my system, the default only works with windows right key], Ohhh, the snapping only works with the right Super key you're saying? | 01:35 |
| wxl | by default | 01:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> What | 01:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> No | 01:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It has to be | 01:35 |
| wxl | i don't see it | 01:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I love you dearly but you're blind :) | 01:35 |
| wxl | nope | 01:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> 🤔 | 01:36 |
| wxl | prove it | 01:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> After I'm done with "dinner" :( | 01:36 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [Ohhh, the snapping only works with the right Super key you're saying?], no, that in 18.10 the default super+r and super+e only works with super_r (not with super_l) | 01:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Hub | 01:37 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> *Huh | 01:37 |
| wxl | here's where keybindings start | 01:38 |
| wxl | search for GrowTo | 01:38 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [Huh], and now I'm ultra confused cause my notebook has only one window key, I normally connecta and external keyboard whcih have both and work differently | 01:39 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [and now I'm ultra confused cause my notebook has only one window key, I normally …], So do I with my laptop | 01:39 |
| kc2bez | :( same here | 01:40 |
| Steedalion | ResizeTo | 01:40 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml$201 | 01:40 |
| wxl | yeah that's a different thing | 01:41 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> isn't this? https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fcosmic/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/openbox/lxqt-rc.xml$318 | 01:43 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yup, that's it. | 01:44 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> wxl is blind :) | 01:44 |
| Steedalion | Yeah, I've got that, restarted openbox too but no luck. | 01:44 |
| wxl | that's not what you said it was, dear | 01:45 |
| wxl | anyways go fix it | 01:45 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Uhhh so what's actually wrong? :) | 01:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> The lines look fine to me. | 01:46 |
| Steedalion | It just doesn't work. The XML commands are there but nothing happens. | 01:46 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> this https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/blog/browse/master/posts/release/lubuntu-18.10-final/post.md$18 and line 25 are kind of the same or not? | 01:46 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Ah indeed | 01:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I blame wxl :) | 01:47 |
| Steedalion | lol | 01:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But, his line feels better. | 01:47 |
| Steedalion | It's chilled. | 01:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> So I'll fix it. | 01:47 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah. | 01:47 |
| kc2bez | Oh I see what is happening. | 01:47 |
| kc2bez | sometimes it does work | 01:47 |
| Steedalion | Has not worked for me. | 01:47 |
| kc2bez | I only have the one meta key so it keeps trying ot open the menu | 01:48 |
| kc2bez | *the | 01:48 |
| Steedalion | I am attempting to sping up 18.04 and upgrade to 18.10 and hopefully it works. | 01:48 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> https://manual.lubuntu.me/D/upgrading.html | 01:48 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> You might have some problems with that. | 01:48 |
| kc2bez | If I mash it fast enough with the window captured it seems to do it. | 01:49 |
| kc2bez | Not every time though. | 01:49 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I only have the one meta key so it keeps trying ot open the menu], bute meta+r and meta+e work? | 01:49 |
| kc2bez | meta arrow key | 01:49 |
| kc2bez | meta e or meta r don't seem to do anything. | 01:51 |
| Steedalion | Does anyones work? | 01:51 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> meta e or meta r don't seem to do anything.], and you have only one meta key? | 01:53 |
| kc2bez | yes on the laptop keyboard. If I plug an external one in with 2 buttons the right one seems to work fine. | 01:54 |
| Steedalion | Okay I figured it out. The menu is taking precendence(excuse my spelling over the other commands) | 01:54 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> yes on the laptop keyboard. If I plug an external one in with 2 buttons …], fine with + arrrow, +e and +r ? | 01:55 |
| kc2bez | meta e opens pcman and meta r open lxqt-runner | 01:56 |
| Steedalion | Go to Keyboard shorcuts (menu-> Pref-> Settings -> Shortcut Keys) and disable "Show/hide main menu" | 01:56 |
| wxl | sounds like we need to rewrite all the keybindings in openbox | 01:56 |
| Steedalion | Works like a bomb. | 01:56 |
| wxl | or that | 01:56 |
| kc2bez | might just need to move it down so it doesn't take precedence | 01:57 |
| Steedalion | Resize is not in global action manager. | 02:01 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T113: Fix tap to click ] agaida (Alf Gaida) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T113#2352 | 02:14 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> on the VPN issue. In 18.04 all the connectios, including the VPN are stored in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ but with nmtui I can't see the VPN connectios (I can with nm-connection-editor) | 02:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> so, for VPN nm-tray can connect to VPN, but canot create. | 02:48 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Hans Möller, [19.10.18 23:47] ... haven't found how to create vpn connections w/o ntework-manager-gnome | 02:48 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGcebe0d7bb958: Spanish translation, huge thanks to GatoOscuro!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGcebe0d7bb958 | 02:53 | |
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| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG21dffd7c62d0: Add the YouTube video from Michael.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG21dffd7c62d0 | 02:57 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/ | 03:10 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: Lubuntu 18.10 has been released with LXQt as the default desktop environment! https://lubuntu.me/cosmic-released/ ... Check out the release video made by TuxDigital which gives an overview of the release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRgcsTQGvwU | 03:11 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOGa0707644d958: Fix some minor stuff and add the post to the list.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOGa0707644d958 | 03:20 | |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> nice video | 03:28 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG34de0b6e255c: Fix typos in the Spanish post, thanks Hans!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG34de0b6e255c | 03:28 | |
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| lubot | <Wafficus> Love the announcement post. Great use of language, and very honest. I like that you were very specific on topics especially since we know were dealing with Linux users who might look for small details like the ones you mentioned. Great post, Simon | 04:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Thank you so much :) | 04:30 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Hans, that's sick that you're helping bring Spanish to the table. Should bridge the gap for a lot of people. | 04:30 |
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| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Wafficus [Hans, that's sick that you're helping bring Spanish to the table. Should bridge …], I'm just really psyched that we have such a large Spanish group :) | 04:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Wolfenprey has also been helping | 04:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/5O16PY2S/file_4256.png | 04:32 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> 109 members | 04:32 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> It's interesting. I'm wondering if they're from Europe, or the Americas | 04:33 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Clearly there's a demand though and it's good were trying to push ground | 04:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Both | 04:33 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> One day soon I'll be on your guys level ha | 04:33 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Ah I see | 04:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> A lot from South America, some from Europe, a few from the states | 04:33 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Wafficus [One day soon I'll be on your guys level ha], hehe | 04:34 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> I see | 04:34 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Thanks for the cudos in that announcement, makes me feel proud. Seriously, I really like how open and honest this team is. Looking forward to kicking more butt soon. | 04:34 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Good night for now team | 04:39 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> G'night @Wafficus, thanks man :) | 04:44 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2018-October/001381.html | 05:01 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T116: Cherry pick lxqt-config GUI fixes] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T116 | 05:35 | |
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| csteed | Lyn, can I push another commit to github. | 10:10 |
| csteed | Hello by the way. | 10:11 |
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| Steedalion | I am the guy pushing the manual commits to github. | 10:11 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL766b09b571c0: Add basic useage on how to add a user.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL766b09b571c0 | 10:35 | |
| lubot | <marneu> Apparently there are a couple of typos in the commands in Appendix D of the manual: ... https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/9pllk0/please_wait_for_the_release_notes_before_running/e844j5r/ | 11:55 |
| lubot | <marneu> > But there's at least one typo in the list: gnome-disk-utilityi. ... > Another is audiacious. But folks will figure it out from the terminal output. | 11:55 |
| lubot | <marneu> Dug out my github account and made a pull request for those. | 12:07 |
| lubot | <OdinTdh> Hello guys. I have some questions about QT. What are you using to develop with Qt, QML or QtWidgets? And if you use python binding what are you using, pyqt or pyside2 (now is called qt for Python)? | 14:31 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> From my own beginner perspective on their use of qt, I believe c++ with qt. Could be wrong | 15:21 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> I've been going through the qt beginner guide with the intent on refreshing c++ skills. Otherwise I would have went the pyqt route too but I was advised it's better with c++ instead. Take a look at the existing repo and see if you see any pyqt related files since I could be wrong. | 15:22 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> I don't think I answered your qml or qtwidgets question so hopefully wxl or Simon can chime in. | 15:23 |
| lubot | <OdinTdh> Thanks to give your opinion Samuel!! | 15:23 |
| lubot | <OdinTdh> Now i m interested more in qml vs QtWidgets discussion, because about c++ and Python , i prefer Python. | 15:25 |
| lubot | <marneu> I'm pretty sure there's no QML in LXQt, see this github issue from an upstream core dev: https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1433 | 15:27 |
| lubot | <marneu> (not that I personally know anything about Qt development) | 15:28 |
| lubot | <OdinTdh> Well it is better to use QtWidgets then | 15:47 |
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| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#2371 | 19:13 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T112: Find a solution for LTS users who want a Lubuntu Manual] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T112#2372 | 19:21 | |
| tsimonq2 | wxl: I want to get these SRUs knocked out today. | 19:27 |
| tsimonq2 | Have you noticed the low hanging fruit I made a task for? | 19:27 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Simon Quigly: did you see odins question? | 19:28 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I haven't, looking. | 19:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @OdinTdh [Well it is better to use QtWidgets then], That sounds right to me, try to use it, otherwise QML works as well. | 19:29 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> The thing with the network manager I think it's important | 20:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Which? | 20:05 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> The thing that nm-applet doesn't have full support | 20:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Right. | 20:05 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> This cycle I think we really need to make some headway there | 20:06 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I think we can implement a lot of the stuff | 20:06 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But the best part about right now is that we can say "we have six months" and take a deep breath :) | 20:06 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> Jejeje, yes | 20:06 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Like, the last few days are GO GO GO GO GO GO WXL STOP BREAKING STUFF GO GO GO GO | 20:07 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> XD | 20:07 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Now it's done with | 20:07 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> at the end I ended up installing network-manaer-gnome and run the config utility with nm-connection editor | 20:12 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Right. | 20:12 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That's not good ;) | 20:12 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I tried to use plasma-nm but could laucnh it. | 20:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> That was why we couldn't use it; it's a Plasmoid and it won't work on the LXQt desktop. palinek wrote this little thing, and he's also on the LXQt team | 20:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But yeah, I catch your drife | 20:13 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> *drift | 20:13 |
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| tsimonq2 | Wooooot, some manual changes :) | 21:59 |
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| lubot | <HMollerCl> https://forum.lxqt.org/t/lubuntu-bloat/420/7 | 22:04 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALef9e8f76af7d: Additional cleanup.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALef9e8f76af7d | 22:12 | |
| wxl[m] | I wonder if we couldn't figure out a way to make a shim to make a Plasmoid just work in the panel | 22:19 |
| tsimonq2 | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 22:19 |
| wxl[m] | We need to start by working on the hard stuff I think. All that porting for example | 22:21 |
| wxl[m] | And though we aren't focused on lightweight we still want to stay out of the way. Doubling memory usage seems shocking. We should investigate and do what we can to slim that down | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Uhm, doubling isn't accurate. | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | I've seen several people independently verify it's 50-100 MB. | 22:23 |
| wxl[m] | Well it's close | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | Not even close. | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | 50% increase at most. | 22:23 |
| tsimonq2 | That's not double :) | 22:24 |
| wxl[m] | Huh | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | Where you been getting your info from? | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | #fakenews | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | XD | 22:24 |
| wxl[m] | Um that's the definition of double | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | uhm, no it isn't. | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | 200 -> 300 even is not double. | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | 200 -> 400 is. | 22:24 |
| tsimonq2 | 200 -> 400 is 100%, 200 -> 300 is 50%. | 22:25 |
| wxl[m] | Well the Russian guy had double | 22:25 |
| tsimonq2 | That's one person, where I've eaily heard five or six all line up at 50-100 MB increase. | 22:25 |
| tsimonq2 | *easily | 22:25 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> but that increase is beacuse of varios small things. lxqt-runner for example | 22:26 |
| wxl[m] | And his idle was about 500 which is an order of magnitude greater than the 50 you mentioned | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | 500 O_O | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | That's totally unheard of. | 22:26 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> qplipper | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | The MOST I've heard is 350. | 22:26 |
| wxl[m] | So we should investigate that | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | Andthey had other stuff running. | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | wxl[m]: NOT IT. | 22:26 |
| tsimonq2 | :) | 22:26 |
| wxl[m] | Or maybe something core | 22:27 |
| wxl[m] | Things do change under the hood | 22:27 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> lxqt-runner 13M | 22:27 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> qlipper 12M | 22:27 |
| wxl[m] | I always had a clipboard manager so that's nothing new | 22:29 |
| wxl[m] | That's a feature really. And one that can be turned off | 22:29 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> botting 18.04 to see how much it takes | 22:29 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> yes, but when people do the comparisson don't turn them off | 22:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> that's why I prefer compton off as default for example | 22:30 |
| wxl[m] | The question we should ask is what is the comparison with equivalent function | 22:30 |
| wxl[m] | I can't remember if we shipped clipit | 22:30 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'm on 18.04 | 22:32 |
| wxl[m] | I'm on my phone soooooo 😂 | 22:32 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> lxpanel 33M vs lxqt-panel 31M | 22:32 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> there is no thing as a clipper in 18.04 | 22:33 |
| wxl[m] | Oooh let's get that in a wiki! | 22:33 |
| wxl[m] | Clipit? | 22:33 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> (Photo, 845x768) https://i.imgur.com/JxpvRxX.jpg 18.04 | 22:35 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> pcmanfm 38M pcmanfm-qt 36M | 22:36 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> so panel and pcmanfm are lighter in it qt versions | 22:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> nm-applet 34M nm-tray 12M (but I don't think that is a good thing to show) | 22:38 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> wxl: We should look at swapping out qps with ksysguard | 22:58 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> @tsimonq2 [wxl: We should look at swapping out qps with ksysguard], klubuntu gets closer | 23:01 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @acheronuk [klubuntu gets closer], HAH | 23:02 |
| wxl[m] | Klaatubuntu you mean | 23:27 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T117: Must haves for 19.04 release] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117 | 23:30 | |
| tsimonq2 | wxl[m], lynorian, @TheWendyPower, @Wafficus, @HMollerCL, etc: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117 | 23:31 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Must haves for 19.04 release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T117 | 23:31 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T118: Package sddm-config-editor] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T118 | 23:35 | |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Ooh welcome center sounds easy | 23:36 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> Thanks for the ping | 23:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower's got that one; collaborate with her :) | 23:36 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Perhaps you can both work together on it. | 23:37 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T119: Make checksum verification automatic] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T119 | 23:39 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T120: Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120 | 23:55 | |
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