=== disposable3 is now known as disposable2
[11:49] <jimcooncat> fresh install of ubuntu-server 18.04. Setting up monit and apache2. Confused about why the server guide suggests systemctl to control apache when there are init.d scripts installed. Can I continue to use /etc/init.d commands to control apache2 from monit?
[14:10] <rbasak> jimcooncat: systemd arranges /etc/init.d scripts to wrap systemd when systemd is in use. So I think using the init.d scripts is safe, but all you're really doing is calling systemctl (or perhaps the dbus API equivalent) through a wrapper.
[14:11] <rbasak> Actually I'm not sure if that's accurate.
[14:11] <rbasak> Do init scripts call systemd as a wrapper? I know it goes the other way round - systemd generates systemd service units for existing init.d scripts.
[14:12] <rbasak> In any case, systemctl is closer to what the system is actually doing, so better to use that directly.
[14:26] <xnox> rbasak, /lib/lsb/init-functions.d/40-systemd
[14:32] <jimcooncat> rbasak xnox thank you
[14:33] <xnox> jimcooncat, this has come up before; i'm hoping to remove `duplicate` init.d scripts in the future.
[14:36] <jimcooncat> I'm getting back in the game from five years ago, love the older tools but don't want to paint myself into a corner by using them, so to speak
[14:38] <xnox> jimcooncat, $ service foo start|stop|restart -> works on all systems, both new and old.
[15:51] <RoyK> xnox: most systems use systemd now, though